Great walkthrough and I like your reasoning around Plasma. I hear a lot that I’m wrong in my assessment that Plasma Envy is one of the most under-stable Envies. It definitely turns a lot more then Neutron, Proton and Eclipse. I need to go rethrow it to see if it’s due to the extra glide you talk about.
One thing to note is that Fission and Electron are basically confirmed to be more understable because MVP adjust the flight numbers on the stamp to account for it: with Fission usually reducing fade by .5 and Electron reducing both turn and fade. Generally, the "flimsier" the plastic, the more understable it will be, which is why Plasma is a bit more undersable, but not so much so that they're willing to change any official flight numbers.
Huh... I like my relay a lot, maybe I will try one if I get a chance.. Fell back in live with my fission wave. I have always felt that proton was more OS than neutron, but not sure about the new discs, but I did pick up a fission photon which I love, and also made me take out my plasma wave and put in my fission one. Really digging it. Can't wait for the new molds.
Great video. I'm just starting to experiment with MVP because of a used Neutron Volt that I have come to love. I picked up a light weight Fission Volt that I was hoping would be a bit less stable. It definitely isn't starting out that way, but sounds like I should just keep it in the bag for a while as the Fissions do season more than the Neutrons. Good info.
I want to revisit Eclipse now that 2.0 is it's own blend as opposed to a variation of Proton. Just waiting for for Eclipse 2.0 discs to get some good data.
Great video. Stanility is so weird with these plastics. I just bought a new proton trace and a new cosmic neutron trace and the cosmic trace is much more overstable. I also have a plasma Tesla that's fireball overstable.
We're seeing shift toward the OS side of the spectrum in all molds now that MVP controls 100% of production. I also know they are working on adding something to the process to make the molds even more consistent across runs.
Just search for corner shelf on your preferred furniture website and they should come up. Not sure which model they are but there are a ton out there with different designs.
I didn't cover any of subsets. I've found the Soft, Medium, and Firm blends fly pretty similarly and would attribute any difference to run variance. We also haven't seen Neutron soft run in about 3 years.
@@SheaStevens77522 Respectfully, I don't think that's true. Most major online retailers received new stock of the Nuetron Soft Envy and Proxy in 2020. I've purchased a few of these as recently as a month ago, and they all have the new tooling too. Perhaps you were thinking of Proton soft, because I haven't seen that in forever. And the consensus I've seen almost everywhere is that the Neutron Soft tends to fly slightly more overstable than the other blends.
@@trevor4000 Think I found some of the Soft Neutron Envies that released in 2020. I want to compare them to regular Neutron molds. I want to see if there's a run variance that creates a difference in the flight or if it is the plastic.
Literally every cosmic neutron I've thrown has been way more stable. My cosmic neutron flare is easily my most stable disc, its not usable outside of a utility disc. It's not far off a Tilt. Crazy stable.
The Flare was always stupid OS. It's not a good comparison. Throw the Cosmic Neutron and Neutron (post patent/flight numbered) versions of the Reactor, Relay, etc. and they all fly the same.
Cosmic IS more overstable. I have neutron and cosmic of both the Volt and the Trace, same weights. The cosmic is much more stable than the reg neutron plastic.
Are the profiles identical? And are the regular Neutrons PFN or flight numbered? You need to eliminate all the variables before you can say the plastic is the cause.
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Really great breakdown of the plastics they offer thank you very much.
Great walkthrough and I like your reasoning around Plasma. I hear a lot that I’m wrong in my assessment that Plasma Envy is one of the most under-stable Envies. It definitely turns a lot more then Neutron, Proton and Eclipse. I need to go rethrow it to see if it’s due to the extra glide you talk about.
One thing to note is that Fission and Electron are basically confirmed to be more understable because MVP adjust the flight numbers on the stamp to account for it: with Fission usually reducing fade by .5 and Electron reducing both turn and fade. Generally, the "flimsier" the plastic, the more understable it will be, which is why Plasma is a bit more undersable, but not so much so that they're willing to change any official flight numbers.
My new flat cosmic relay is stable. Thrown flat forehand with power goes straight with little turn and fades hard to the right!
Huh... I like my relay a lot, maybe I will try one if I get a chance.. Fell back in live with my fission wave. I have always felt that proton was more OS than neutron, but not sure about the new discs, but I did pick up a fission photon which I love, and also made me take out my plasma wave and put in my fission one. Really digging it. Can't wait for the new molds.
Great video. I'm just starting to experiment with MVP because of a used Neutron Volt that I have come to love. I picked up a light weight Fission Volt that I was hoping would be a bit less stable. It definitely isn't starting out that way, but sounds like I should just keep it in the bag for a while as the Fissions do season more than the Neutrons. Good info.
Such a great video for newer MVP throwers! Great job!
Fantastic video man! I will use this video to help explain MVP plastics to folks. lol
Some folks just write MVP discs off sadly.
This is the definitive MVP Plastic video.
I want to revisit Eclipse now that 2.0 is it's own blend as opposed to a variation of Proton. Just waiting for for Eclipse 2.0 discs to get some good data.
For my drivers, I think proton has been more understable compared to neutron, and more domey.
Great vid. Appreciate the breakdown. What disc is that you show for the Proton Prism? Holy hell it is gorgeous!
That was a Prism Proton Insanity and that particular stamp was the Charlotte AM Worlds stamp.
Thanks a bunch. Very informative.
This was awesome! Thank you!
Great video. Stanility is so weird with these plastics. I just bought a new proton trace and a new cosmic neutron trace and the cosmic trace is much more overstable. I also have a plasma Tesla that's fireball overstable.
We're seeing shift toward the OS side of the spectrum in all molds now that MVP controls 100% of production. I also know they are working on adding something to the process to make the molds even more consistent across runs.
I like your disc shelf behind you! Do you have a link or model name of that shelf?
Just search for corner shelf on your preferred furniture website and they should come up. Not sure which model they are but there are a ton out there with different designs.
Not to complain, but you missed perhaps the BEST of the plastics: Neutron Soft
I didn't cover any of subsets. I've found the Soft, Medium, and Firm blends fly pretty similarly and would attribute any difference to run variance. We also haven't seen Neutron soft run in about 3 years.
@@SheaStevens77522 Respectfully, I don't think that's true. Most major online retailers received new stock of the Nuetron Soft Envy and Proxy in 2020. I've purchased a few of these as recently as a month ago, and they all have the new tooling too. Perhaps you were thinking of Proton soft, because I haven't seen that in forever.
And the consensus I've seen almost everywhere is that the Neutron Soft tends to fly slightly more overstable than the other blends.
@@trevor4000 Think I found some of the Soft Neutron Envies that released in 2020. I want to compare them to regular Neutron molds. I want to see if there's a run variance that creates a difference in the flight or if it is the plastic.
Literally every cosmic neutron I've thrown has been way more stable. My cosmic neutron flare is easily my most stable disc, its not usable outside of a utility disc. It's not far off a Tilt. Crazy stable.
The Flare was always stupid OS. It's not a good comparison. Throw the Cosmic Neutron and Neutron (post patent/flight numbered) versions of the Reactor, Relay, etc. and they all fly the same.
Cosmic IS more overstable. I have neutron and cosmic of both the Volt and the Trace, same weights. The cosmic is much more stable than the reg neutron plastic.
Are the profiles identical? And are the regular Neutrons PFN or flight numbered? You need to eliminate all the variables before you can say the plastic is the cause.