Ikarus electric "rocket" - Thrust-vectored flying ducted fan
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2018
- Ikarus is a 3D-printed, Electric Ducted Fan (EDF) "rocket" that takes off and lands vertically, sort of like the Falcon 9 first stage. Based on a 90mm EDF, this entire project can be built for about $250.
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Design info, CAD files, firmware, etc. is now up at omeganaught.com/2018/08/ikarus-electric-rocket/
For better stability performance, please add counter fins right after the impeller. They have to be counter directed against the rotating fan
The EDF already has fins to straighten the airflow after the fan
Will you open the firmware source code?
mate would you be down on doing a collaboration video on this
Great video! I am working on a contra rotating setup at the time! (But with props, no edf) Excited to see what you will come up to
There is no stopping you when you sent your mind to something! I would have thought the body of the craft would have to spin in the opposite direction of the fan from the torque. That blows my mind!
Yeah I wonder how much power he loses by using the vanes to counteract the torque
Well it does, but is counteracted by directed airflow with an axial component. You can see the craft yerk around the axis when the torque changes due to changed RPM of the fan.
Thanks! There are static vanes in the duct that straighten the airflow out, so there's no torque produced due to the airflow or fan spinning. The inertia of the fan does cause torque when spooling up or down, which the thrust vectoring vanes compensate for quite well as long as there's power applied. At low throttle, it can spin around quite a lot, but if you punch it above about half throttle, it stays in position quite well.
Are the batteries causing it to lose balance? Will equal weight distribution sort out your take off issues?
don't give him credit for ripping off someone else's work. lol fucking youtube hacks abound
This might be my favorite video of yours.
Mine too, it's remarkable how much control he had
It's also a fantastic use of his handheld slo-mo camera! Super fast, easy tracking for a fast moving target. You should add this to the sizzle reel!
I came here to say "I want to see William Osman recreate this." Apparently you're alredy on it?
william, can we be bff ( forevers) ? i have a shed you can squat and a cat you can pet
That is really creepy. You should get to know someone before you love them.
I love how a proper tech company spent a few years with a full team, developing an unicopter, then this guy comes along and does it in has garage in a few months by himself😂
That's patience percivierence and pure focus😂
Some people work better by themselves and using others knowledge from online
high productivity
Yep, this is amazing. Very impressive work, and thanks for sharing.
ah the batman has been spotted
AND THE BEST PART IS THAT IT'S TOTALLY SILENT.
You cant hear it if it destroys your ears first
*"WHAT?!"*
“ GOD DAMN IT, IS THE LEAF-BLOWER GUY HERE AGAIN!????” - 20:20
It's an air raid siren
holy c word this video is 5 years old 🤯
"A rocket" with lipos strapped to it is called "a missile".
hes talking about how dangerous lipos are
Niklas lipo’s make it more of an incendiary ha ha
Niklas
Only if he has a switch to short and detonate the batteries. ;-)
A samsung missle
maybe more like a "dirty bomb"
That is some amazing problem solving and persistence, great work! Love all the details provided about the whole process, too.
I have only dreamed of building such a thrust vectored flying machine. You have demonstrated incredible control. Congratulations. My 'technology-off-the-shelf' hat is off to you.
This is my favorite video to watch loudly while in the dentist’s waiting room.
This is unbelievably cool!
The amount of effort you pour into this, and then share it freely with everyone. You’re the kind of hero we need more of!!
well he ripped off the design, and then "shared" it....so. theres that
Diesel Ramcharger Care to give the link. It would be cool to know. Regardless, the effort that he put into getting his pet controllable and understanding the control such as gyroscopic issues is pretty damn good. I really liked the wooden contraception that he built to help decipher the control issues.
Ripped off from who?
Regardless this man shared all plans and code for the sole purpose of improvement.
yes he used the Vector control of like i2d but used it in a different system..
Most excellent work. who knows where i2d got his idea from but Whatever .
Having the plan, and the code is a small part of it. Having the will, and follow through is the major obstacle.
19:50 me in the morning trying to get off the bed
I've seen a lot of videos of people attempting vectored flight. Your model is the best I've seen. Your model has amazing control. Well done!👍
I love it!
Hi Cody, how you doin?
Then tell him to give credit to the DESIGNER.
whos the designer?
Thanks! It was very hard to make all of this work but in the end it wasn't me.
Sup Cody...
Now just add a GPS and have it clean your driveway from leaves and snow in fall 😜
But seriously, awesome project!
I know this is partly in jest but that seems like a practical application.
jonathan... that is a great idea. three of these fine tuned to blow leaves into all other neighbors yards. million dollar idea cause they will need to buy a set as well. and the chain reaction ensues. tesla500 you getting this?
Also it could prevent leaves from collecting on the roof and gutters
I really liked that you put fails/learning curve test flights at the end. All together a most educational and inspirational build and video.
Wow. Awesome stuff and it's great to see your thoughtprocess in making this!
I’ve been subbed to this channel since...well, I’m going to estimate 8 years or so. Many things have changed in that time, and although the channel is no longer highly active, it is most certainly worth the wait when a new video appears!
You’ve always come over as an incredibly smart chap David, a lot of the technical stuff is way above my head, and I’m glad to see your ideas are bearing fruit.
Well done sir. (Edited due to fat fingers)
I agree. He is quite good with what he does. I have studied aircraft dynamics and control and his understanding of the mechanism for gyroscopic effects and how to compensate for it is remarkable.
This is incredible! Thanks for spending so much time on the controls theory and feedback, exactly what I was interested in
Really impressive! That's some serious scientific work! When I watch your videos, I wish I had studied something in the direction of electronics. It's just fascinating how software can be used to circumvent certain hardware problems.
That slow mo over mulch is beautiful! Thanks.
Next year:
'Local man made his own leafblower, now has air speed record.'
Your ability to problem-solve blows my mind. Thank you for sharing this.
Wow, the amount of work and thought and testing that went into this... :-O Congrats! :) And the slow motion sequences look very nice. :)
other RUclipsrs would have made this into a series with 5 10-minute episodes
Seriously impressed, especially as you modified the firmware to solve a fairly hard problem that normal rockets don't have to deal with.
Adding a fuel tank, combustion chamber and nozzle should be fairly trivial in comparison!
Link please or some other reference.
It’s like saying „Why do you use that calculator? You didn’t even invent it!“
The word 'rocket' is in inverted commas :)
Ducted fans won't be much help at altitudes over 12 km.
@@EveryoneWhoUsesThisTV Yes, that's obvious, which is why I said "Adding a fuel tank, combustion chamber and nozzle".
The achievement is the control algorithm - the actual type of engine is secondary as long as it can respond appropriately to the inputs.
this is one of the most innovative videos I 've watched. I just loved it. I have a suggestion for your next version, maybe you can add an ultrasonic sensor at the bottom to measure the height so that you can apply some height control as well. Counter-rotating double fans also popped in my head, I think that might be worth trying too. Amazing video again! Thanks.
i watched this video when he uploaded it a few years back, & i am always amazed at how inventive he is
this just earned u a sub . mind blowing i always thought a single motor couldnt produce thrust at such a small scale level . thanks mate good jobu
Awesome! Next step, put some wings on it so it can do in-flight transition to lift-based fast forward flight.
That's in the works!
That was my first thought seeing the flight vid. It really needs to happen.
So was mine
That is the dumbest comment on here. Put wings on it. Omg yeah maybe then it will fly. Real forward thinking there. Or maybe we could hire a helicopter pilot to fly it cause he is smarter.
Really cool project. Seems like landing it is one of the challenges at this point. Seems top heavy, but also the thrust is causing a turbulent ground effect. In the redesign of the frame you might consider having longer landing gear support the frame from the top for a wider, more stable landing surface. The legs could also be usefully designed as strakes for flight stability if you get into horizontal high speed flight. Hope to see more on this project!
Absolutely love what your doing. I have a room full of rc planes, jets but I find myself trying to make things that shouldn't work but do. Keep it up.
Thank you 👌. It's a joy to see. Including the amazing clarity of description and honest earnest explanation ❤️
the moment you said you wanted to put a cowl over it, all i could think of was putting a cover of a trashcan mac pro over it.
Hahaha, that would look even sillier than this (which is awesome). I like it!
Lol, I had image of Mac pro flying around.
I still remember the time when I built a plane with nicad cells and a brushed motor and it was just barely able to climb.
Brushless motors and lithium batteries are quite something, combined with the electronics to keep them from plowing straight into the ground. The design challenges are very different now, but certainly no easier.
+stefantrethan
I still have an electric powered glider by Kyosho that I bought about a quarter of a century ago. It was powered by a massive, brushed motor and a 10-pack Ni-Cd battery that added a ton to the sailplane. It barely climbed to altitude, then sank like a brick, and then did one more climb and that was it. Fast-forward to the 21st century, I replaced the motor with a much more powerful brushless one and a much lighter and more powerful LiPo battery. The glider now reaches altitude in about 30 seconds, easily glides tens of minutes at a time, can climb to altitude dozens of times in a single charge. I can literally get a whole flying day out of one single battery charge. Electric powered gliders of the 90s were ahead of their time! It is only now that even 25 year old designs reached their full potential.
Awesome drone! It's body movements are so very different and unique to itself! You deffintly made Mr. Tesla proud!
That's a really creative way to use an EDF. Love it!
Thank you for sharing your wisdom and talent.
With wings it would be an *extremely* fast VTOL "Tailsitter" aircraft.
Military contract is on it's way.
even better: wings that fold out when it's in the air so that it can stay small sized
Very nice job, excellent engineering! Happy new year, looking forward to more content!
I love this thing! It's so swooshy and heavy looking, looks really fun to fly. And I love Kapton tape, I use the stuff all the time for strapping battering and components down too, it's so light and strong and the adhesive is badass, it's awesome stuff.
was the impeller damaged at all by the wood chips? Some definitely entered.
Yes, it took some damage to the blade leading edges, divets of up to about 0.5mm. Nothing really bad, still usable.
I was looking for this comment. Knew I couldn't be the only one thinking this.
Made for a cool shot though.
@@tesla500 good thing you can just reprint the parts again.
@@tesla500 what about the motor though? I never take off from anything with sand or gravel as it can get into the motor from the top and eventually cause problems with how it runs. Possibly even cause it to fail.
Yeah FOD thats so not the correct place to use any kinda rotory air suck annd blow device of any kind.
Very cool! Great project. Now that you've got id working, should get a an 11 or 12 blade fan for it so it sounds better.
*it?
That was so incredible! Love the slow motion!
I love the video, great capture of the new product development process. I like the idea of this for manned electric flight much better than standard quadcopter due to redundancy. If you had four vectored ducted fans such as this but had a control system that could compensate for the loss of one or two of them without a significant loss in control, that makes the flying car that much more achievable.
You should put a head on top of it. Scare people during Halloween.
and put some speaker to make evil laugh mwuhahahaaa
It's about the size of a head already, just need to strap a mask to it
Nah put some knifes on it way scarrier
That is _really_ cool!
Stupid question : if you gave it a pair of wings, could you make it take off vertically, and transition to horizontal flight? (and vice-versa)
That's up next
It's all about control and by looks of it I don't think it would pose an issue. When I was watching the first few minutes of the the video I thought how cool would this be if if was implemented in a tilt rotor.
An intermediate project before you make a vtol plane could be a Borg cube.
search youtube for f-35 vtol
That was the first thought I had. With wings this will get a nice efficiency in horizontal flight. Love it! Have to build it!
And now you can make your very own amazing vtol spacecraft. Congrats, this is amazing 👍
What a fantastically interesting 30 mins. thanks for showing the process and journey.
My first question was going to be; *How did you overcome the gyroscopic torque* ? But I'm glad I watched the whole video first! 👍🏼
Same here, and after watching the whole video, if one misses the answer, replay @13:30
8:30
Factorio drones confirmed.
Looks like the futur of high speed drones 😊 and i think you did find a new form of video for relaxing, those slowmo shots at the end where the wood starts flying around everywhere are sooo relaxing to watch 😅 specialy with that music 👍
That's a really unique project...thanks for the video!
Reminds me of the factorio robots
I was just thinking that. Not to mention i have Factorio running right now on my other screen... :)
Beware headphone users! Great project
I've had a 90mm EDF sitting in my office for the last 6 months to do exactly this :-). Great work with coupling the autopilot to the pitch rate to compensate for precession.
Oh boy, what a great project! Keep up the great work.
8:10 I feel like if you had just put like literally anything flat, like a large wooden board on top of those boxes and made sure it was decently levelled, it would've worked just fine. Anyways, very interesting video! looking forward to more.
Could end up being the fastest drone yet.
very far..
Something a 5 inch X8 could probably do. (maybe a 30 second flight time with a 6s battery. haha)
Not gonna lie I was wanting the rocket to blast off in your garage while still connected to wooden jig lol. This is a wicked sick build! Love!!
This is called engineering. I love your work.
The first clip aboslutely destroyed youtube's video codec.
very nice work, especially with the nozzle and thrust vectoring mechanics design! reminds me a bit of the Honeywell RQ-16 T-Hawk (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_RQ-16_T-Hawk ) (EDIT: link corrected)
lol gee.....ya think.
Dude, you need to cool your fucking jets. (or ducted fans in this case). There are considerable differences between the design of this drone and the T-Hawk (which you refused to even name as the infringed design yourself). The control surfaces are completely different (and innovative) as well as the internal ducting. And you seem to completely ignore his work modifying the software (which also has NO connection to your beloved military craft). The fact is that ducted, single rotor, thrust vectored, VTOL aircraft have been developed since at least the 1950s. See: the Hiller 1031-A-1 and the Willams X-Jet and WASP. airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/hiller-model-1031-1-flying-platform
hyperboreanvibrations.blogspot.com/2011/03/williams-international-x-jet-and-other.html
You really don't seem to understand how IP and patents work. This man has done a lot of hard work to make something that functions and you are shitting all over his contribution to aerospace engineering. He didn't "steal" anything. He designed his ducting himself and the geometry of the fins and cutouts alone would be enough to patent his design, but he chose to share it with everyone instead. You need to step off your high-horse and show some respect for a guy that put a lot of love and effort into something so that we could all enjoy it and keep building on the idea.
Wow very cleverly put together well done pal
Very cool. Thanks for providing the CAD too
I love it. But your camera man needs a good telling off lol
FPV FREAKY -Yep. He was about three seconds behind the action.
At least he didn't shoot this in Vertical Video :) Looks amazing..
Yeah it was rubbish filming!!
Holy flying fans batman!
Wow! I hope you patented this brilliant piece of work!
Engineering + physics + super creative = my mind is blown!!! Too cool!
Now THIS is podracing!
Nice gimbal!
Thanks! I really wanted to make sure it was very low friction, and relatively low weight to be confident in the results.
I liked the relatively simple yet effective construction. Adding the third freedom of rotation would be probably too difficult and not really necessary to be worth the effort?
No reason to in this case, I was only interested in the roll/pitch response, the yaw control was disabled for these tests, and generally wasn't a problem at all control wise.
Great Work! I like it.
What an amazing project! Good work
You trying to be the next Elon Musk?
John Possum Nah I’m pretty sure David’s inventions will make money...
Nah he's better than him
yeah stealing other peoples work and claiming it as his own......just like elon!
@@DieselRamcharger what exactly are you talking about ?
Lunar Module???? :)
it's manhack from half-life 2 ))
Yes Man lol
It's a factorio drone
Slow-motion camera is absolutely awesome this thing is spectacular well done🌹
Honestly this might be my favorite video on RUclips
Very impressive. I've no idea what I'm talking about but couldn't you strap two of these bad boys together in a counter rotating fashion for less hassle and more power? Meh I don't know, go and work for DARPA or something, good shit mate.
Could mount 4 of these in to a X configuration to make it more stable. You could then mount all the weight in the middle of the X to make it more stable... Wait...
Put wider "training legs" on it for testing
How fast is the air coming out from motor? I can see this thing replacing back pack blowers for yard work.
I love the nerdy dedication. Awesome.
Is this a Hoover-craft? It sounds like one.
I'm impressed!
Sounds like a dentist's drill.
@@jamestheotherone742 nha..nhac ditlanh.
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Great video, as always! Just wanted to point out that yotube’s compression algorithm sh*t it’s pants during the intro of this video...
Ok that was cool, I've done RC cars, helicopters, quad copters, hex copters. Each have their own challenges but this concept is just cool.
The counter rotating fan idea reminds me of the Novel 'Butcher Bird' by Dean Ing. Love your research and development. What a fascinating little machine!
The little is a perfect discription. What an amazing swarm these would make. Pixels in the sky
Excellent! The only thing i can see is if you made it a bit taller it would be easier to find balance. Like balancing a broom on the palm of your hand. Taller stick easier, short stick more difficult.
Hay David it is Daniel Dillon ..... usun Dillons Rule.....!!!!!
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm how about just a tail like a kite...........but then the computer controls are not accounting for everything, I think that is what his final selling product will be. (The software could then be applied to an infinite amount of projects already being worked on all over the world.) the race has been running a long time. Looks like we have a new leader.
David Dillon could you explain how this works? I would figure the taller it is the more weight distributed away from COM making the moments greater and making it tip
You can make the launch pad with pvc pipe....:-) :-):-)
Seriously cool, dude! That could make a great xmas gift. Could also be nice build such creative kits where one can explore with software and multiple thrust sources and shapes etc.
Very Impressive, So many fantastic ideas come to mind from your Massive effort here, Great video to watch.
OMG this is so inspiring ... like ... this just shows just how wonerful an engineer's mind is ...
I'm more of a software guy, but IF i had to build that and ran into the gyroscopic precession problem I'd have just installed another prop or quit entirely, blaming physics for the failure ... the case at 10:48 realy seemed HOPELESS to me ...
Like ... this is not about persistance ... it's about how you see the world work ... we both know the world isn't perfect and it will never be, and if you see some of that world "imperfection" go directly against whatever physical device you're trying to build ... I would give up much faster
I would have NO WAY THOUGHT YOU COULD STABILISE THAT THING WITH ANYTHING SHORT OF MACHINE LEARNING
I woulcn't have thought that just applying a simple correction to the code that you get out by using the gyroscopic precession equasions would work, because turbulence and inertial instability and positive feedback loops and angular momentum in a closed system etc, etc
JUST SEEING you tweak that one line of code, doing the exact correction the theoretical model tells you and achieving the stability sen at 16:07 SEEMED LIKE MAGIC TO ME
like, idk how to describe this but ... YOU MEAN PHYSICS JUST WORKS ? in an IMPERFECT WORLD ?
That feeling was nothing short of hope
ACTUAL HOPE
because even though the world is imperfect, by understanding it you can "negociate" with it JUST ENOUGH SO THAT YOUR THING WORKS
this was beautiful
You have built an exquisite flying machine
In retrospective, it's so much more interresting than if you just had a co-axial EDF instead
Your control problems remind me of what a helicopter pilot has to do to maintain control of the aircraft. It may even be the very same control problem.
Did you ever consider looking at model helicopter control systems?
Smarter Everyday did a video on helicopter control a few years ago that examined this issue. Helicopters have a tail rotor to cancel the asymetric torque, unlike this ducted fan where the vanes have to do everything.
Jacob Brodsky Looks like Neil Armstrong flying the lunar lander video. Haha
He was actually wrong about something though, the phase delay of helicopter control inputs aren't gyroscopic precession it is an aerodynamic effect caused by blade being unable to exert pitch and roll on the airframe instantly the same as moving the elevators and ailerons on an airplane can't instantly pitch or roll the aircraft (a helicopter rotor is literally a rotating wing) The phase delay is (usually) close to 90 degrees, but not exactly 90 degrees and in some designs it's quite a bit off like with the Robinson R22 which has a phase delay of 70 degrees or the Sikorsky prototype I read about that had a phase delay of almost 100 degrees. (basically the lighter and stiffer the rotor the less delay and the heavier or more flexible the rotor the greater the delay). Gyroscopic presession is always EXACTLY 90 degrees so for phase delay to not be exactly 90 degrees in helicopters disproves the presession myth right off the bat. (helicopter rotors rotate too slowly and and don't have enough mass for gyroscopic presession to have a significant effect)
...and just call it a heli
The insightful comments of your cameraman in the demo flight are not embarrassing at all. 😉
Great idea. I think it can work out, if we have actuated vents that move the drone.
Not the turbine directly, but the nozzles that move the air in different directions.
Just what i thought!
Just what i thought!
Man do a kickstarter, get this things bugs worked out and built then distributed! It would be the next best drone or hobby flying aircraft!
mehh
No, this is a cool engineering challenge. As a drone, it's even more inefficent than the ones we have now.
I was thinking that - but I think noise could be a big problem (I noticed he's got ear-protection on... in the car port I guess) Love the project though! Makes me wanna get stuck into something...
Waterproof it and it works submerged under water...
You deserve a million dollars for this no doubt!! Great job!! I'm working on stabilizing my ion propelled crafts, the this is definitely an inspiration!
Just saw the videos on your channel sir, very impressive stuff!
@@oadka Thanks!!
This is so much cooler than a quad. Amazing.
In the beginning the Fan sounds like a Emergency Siren
When you get 1M subscriber on no video we will add music with it
Go open source. Give it a shell. Kick starter it. This is awesome.
he didn't design it, he ripped it off.
Open Hardware and Open source flight controller is hardly "Ripping it off". He had to do a lot of work to get it to fly, work that he implemented himself and wasn't copied. This is an original implementation of adapted works.
been done hundreds of times before..
@@partickstar1135 if you're saying vectored engines are not a new design, and over coming gyroscopic procession and torque is not a new problem, I agree with you. Tesla500 didn't claim this idea as his own invention but this implementation of it is his own. Watching the video entirely makes that quite obvious.
I am at 5:00 and I can't stop saying "oh my God oh my God" what I am so impressed with is that you're sharing all this and that makes you one of the most special people in history....your lack of greed is Angelic 👼
have you built any RC things in your entire lifetime? Its not hard to figure that out by just looking at it. The real amazing thing here is how he coded the thrust vectoring part and still have it be incredibly stable
@@honkhonk8009 buddy I can't even use toilet paper......I was run over by a certain type of vehicle with flashing lights when I was a kid.....you can call it an accident but it was deemed intentional and the son of a bitch pig is doing life times three.....I spent my own money to make sure he does not get the death penalty......the fun part is that I receive daily video and images from the warden, prison officials, and informants on the inside who actually have high speed access inside the prison......so to answer you question, it's kinda hard to assemble when you're a quadriplegic.....but I rejoice in the daily videos of the pig getting abused over and over for what he did to me.....so there is that......I was awarded a very large settlement and I mean large.....it is being used for good things.....I've decided to "hire" some college or high school kids to come over and we can "build rc" while learning
..then we will donate the items....good times ahead.