"The Wish" & "Amends" (3x9-3x10) | BTVS REACTION
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"Why is her hair like that?" Ah yes, the infamous Amends bangs 😅
So many ppl hate on them but I think Sarah pulls them off so well, it makes her look so cute
@@lunawebster3748 I mean, SMG is SMG--she'd look good pretty much no matter what. So I don't disagree, but I also don't think the bangs are doing her any favors haha
@@ghostofdurruti fair enough lol I just think they get more hate than necessary
Lol I hate the bangs.
It was very much the fashion back then to have these incrediby short bangs. A lot of celebrities sported these bangs back then.
"So, Angel's on top again?" is one of my favourite lines from Buffy lol.
“The Wish” is one of my favorite episodes, both for its alternate history storyline and for introducing one of my favorite secondary characters/guest stars in Anyanka. It routinely makes the best episodes of the show lists because it’s just well done in all aspects.
I love the fact that they didn’t do the standard trope where someone goes into an alternate time line. Learns stuff and comes back a better person.
@@jspettifer And I like, despite no one remembering the alternate timeline, this episode still has repercussions down the line.
VampWillow is also a fantastic sort of secondary character.
it also shows us how important her friends are for Buffy. This is what would have become of her without them.
I feel bad for Jonathan (the boy on the stairs). He's just sitting there and gets attacked by Harmony.
Between that and being held hostage by the fake cop lady last season, he’s been through it.
@@ncorgan And almost getting drained to death by Ampata.
I love that they didn’t fall into the typical tropes of a wish like that and really teach Cordelia a lesson. I think it was more valuable as a way to see how different Buffy could be with a different watcher and without her friends, and how similar she could really be to Faith with just a few small changes to her life. I feel like that’s actually the point
It's Cleveland. Cleveland changes a (wo)man!
😂 Source: a woman in Cleveland.
I always tear up when it starts snowing. I love the character growth for Angel. And for a character that's been around for 3 seasons already, a lot of his character development starts here. I always had trouble being behind Bangel (because they are a lot and get really intense really soon) but episodes like this show me why Angel loves Buffy so much. She inspires him to be a better person
It wasn’t a demon. It was the very first evil. The very essence of evil. It’s non-corporeal, hence the need for the Harbingers. But it can’t be defeated, per se, like a demon or a vampire. For whatever reason, it wanted Angel to turn evil again, and failing that, was happy to settle for his offing himself. One can speculate as to the reasons the First would want this, but it obviously considers Angel a threat to the dark forces to some degree and wanted to eliminate that threat. Thanks to Buffy, and possibly divine intervention in the form of the freak snow storm, it failed in its plan.
It was always my head cannon that the First Evil released Angel from Hell for the reasons you put. Also as a way to mentally torment Buffy with his existence. I mean in a serious sense, the root cause of all episodes could be because of the First if it really is the essence of evil. It's very god like, in that sense.
Guess she missed the part where they call it the first evil and it literally says it's not a demon
I think amends is really not the comment section for the reasons of it all happening
"I'm not a demon, little girl, I am something you cannot even conceive... The First Evil. Beyond sin. Beyond death. I am the thing the darkness fears. You'll never see me, but I am everywhere. Every being. Every thought. Every drop of hate."
@@AnatoleVGC I agree. There wouldnt be a thread of complaints over whether the guy with the fork is a vampire or demon etc so it's much easier to notice that "The First" is a bigger deal in the series because of the length of which people talk about it. 🤦♀️
i love amends for making us think about why angel is the way he is, without telling us why. and i love that the threat isn't the villain fooling him but pushing him a little to think about himself because even just that is enough. most of all i love that the heroes don't really win, angel doesn't change his mind, buffy doesn't convince him, the episode doesn't attempt to resolve his or buffy's feelings at all. the breakthrough is just "turns out angel can't kill himself today". he knows, she knows and we know that this problem hasn't been solved, it can't be - but the music and direction still appropriately treat this as a huge victory because it's the only victory available.
you're the best to ever do this by the way, youtube recommends me others who've watched more episodes than you but they don't have your thoughtfulness and insight into the characters and themes. and i love that you pause what you're reacting to to talk about it, nobody else does that, i don't know why
I’m a big fan of Sofie reacts. She doesn’t delve incredibly deep, but she really gets what’s going on with the stories, remembers plot points from the past & she understands the humor, which goes a long way in my book.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192exactly! And Alley Box is another fav reactor of mine.
I love when you try to find more answers than the show is willing to give you. Feel free to speculate! I think that whatever brought Angel back was also responsible for the sudden snowfall, and the First Evil had nothing to do with any of it.
I didn't really understand what happened in this episode until the lore was expanded upon later. Don't want to say more than that but I think a coherent explanation does eventually present itself.
The Wish is such a great alternative reality episode and "Amends" is still one, if not my favorite holiday themed episode ever. Fun fact: the WB held a contest before this episode aired with the 1-800-collect company and the lucky winner got to star in a future episode.
Which ep?!?!
"star" is a rather strong word. "extra" would be more appropriate.
I think whatever intervened to bring Angel back did so again with the snowstorm to keep him from burning up - the evil entity wanted Angel to die, but something else intervened to signal to him that there is a larger plan.
i think you missed a small miracle.
The demons had convinced Angel to kill himself. Which he was trying to do by the sunrise. If if wasn't snowing, Angel would have likely succeeded. Somebody is looking put for Angel and his 'destiny'..
I will say my recollection when this aired was that the scene was more lit making it more convincingly moments before dawn. I wonder if they wanted to water down the obviousness of the suicide attempt.
Last five min of the wish is pure artistry
Buffy's hair in "Amends" is the butt of many jokes in the fandom 😂
Who would've guessed in the beginning of the series we would be so sorry for Cordy.
These are certainly 2 of the most polarizing episodes. "Amends" has (for some reason) always divided the fanbase and while everyone initially seemed to love "The Wish", I have seen several Buffy reactors who don't like it. For me personally, both of these episodes are masterpieces and they're both in my top 10 BtVS episodes.
I like"The Wish"(I don't _love_ it,though...there's _another_ episode that I love...😉❣)and I never really liked"Amends".
I don't really get why anyone wouldn't like The Wish, but maybe it will grow on them.
I like both. Amends is a bit Hallmark holiday movie but it's kinda nice to have a break from the doom and gloom. Buffy deals with dark stuff, it could so easily have become a depressing series but episodes like Amends give some more uplifting moments, like rays of sunshine into a gloomy fog.
@@alexmckee4683 You think _"Amends"_ is an uplifting episoe?!?0 ____ 0
@@Nicamon yeah 👍 I guess I am a bit odd.
We're all gonna have to take the 5th on those questions at the end, Cass. Put it to the back of your mind for now but I promise (some) answers will be provided in the future.
The important thing is that we remember.
I just love all the episodic episodes of TV shows. Ah, the good ol' days. Get off my lawn!
Why would Cordelia remember? The version of her that experienced that reality _died,_ and then that experience never happened.
the episode is a very nihilistic approach, I like it :D
Pro tip; get a small piece of card to put against the bottom of the screen whilst the opening credits are on but so you can still see whats going on, that way you won't get spoiled 😂 i have no self control and I'd have to peek unless i make it a rule 😊
You don’t miss anything and there will be some answers. I will give you this much. It’s easy to forget with how these shows usually go, but in a world where evil is real and tangible, there must also be opposing good. For now, it was just a Christmas miracle 😉
The scales have to be balanced, not tipped.. 😊
It wasn't a demon. It was THE FIRST EVIL, which is an incorporeal spirit that cannot directly interact with the material world and can only act through others. It can take the form of any person who has died, however, all it can do is to manipulate others into doing evil.
I'm really glad Cordy didn't remember the alternate reality. We need her to be the character who is brutally honest, often kind of mean in a funny way, but will have your back when it's really important. No one else fills that role. Oz is a great depiction of healthy masculinity at this point. I wish more masc people had watched the show when I was growing up and thought they wanted to be like Oz, rather than identifying so much with Xander's toxic traits and finding validation that that made their behavior cool. It hits so hard when Angel says, "It's not the demon in me that needs killing, Buffy. It's the man," then Buffy's reaction to it. It's a real turning point for their relationship and Angel's post-Hell healing journey.
On the other end of the spectrum we don't have a single depiction of healthy feminity, except Jenny but she's gone, all the others are quite toxic in their own right.
To defend men like myself who grew up with Xander being an influence, the biggest influence I got from Xander as a character was that he had zero problem being surrounded by powerful women and supporting and loving them. He's not a perfect character at all, but he was downright revolutionary for the time in this regard. There was virtually nothing like this at the time, especially on a show for a teen audience. While we related somewhat to Xander's more toxic traits, NO MEN I know who watched the show at the time wanted to be Xander in that regard. We related to his lamer qualities that we had within us, but he was never validating. We didn't want to be Xander, we wanted to be Buffy. We looked up to Buffy like Xander did (Xander says in the opener of Season 4 that Buffy was his hero, a groundbreaking moment for me personally) and saw how we can be helpful to the Buffys in our lives.
He's also an incredibly brave character given that he's not powerful in any way, but still very eager to be a part of the fight. Mild SPOILERS, but he shows this greatly in the final season. Despite the psychological and physical harm he goes through that season, he's still doggedly determined to be a part of the fight and help and support these powerful women defeat the forces of evil.
That said, I do know a lot of OG watchers who also wanted to be Oz. But again SPOILERS, he has his big toxic fuck ups too.
I think anyone who thought Xander was a good influence needs a straight jacket, considering how he's an insert for JW.
Preach. I would date a hundred Oz's before I ever gave a Xander a shot. Men like Oz are in a complete other league in terms of quality, and I wish guys like him were more common. I'd even be willing to overlook the werewolf thing. 😆
@@Madbandit77 I would think Buffy is the insert for JW if any. Though unlike the character, he doesn't resort to physical violence whenever he loses an argument but might be going for the mean low blows like her.
"Where are we right now? What's happening? Why is her hair like that?"
Three excellent questions.
I wonder if the Masters bloodline is more powerful than the usual vampires. Think the Master made Willow and Xander vampires and I think Darla (its likely since she follows him), who made Angel, who made Druscilla, who made Spike.
It's usually a thing in vampire lore that a vmapire is more powerful the fewer generations it is from a primary vampire that is a human who gained vampirism not through beign bitten but by other means.
That said it's not an absulute we know Spike is a stronger fighter then Angel is despite beign two generaitons down.
@DaDunge Spike is not a stronger fighter than Angelus. He's less powerful, just more intense and more of a creative, Improvisational fighter, like Buffy is. Vampires get stronger as they age in this universe and it's implied that the same thing happens to slayers.
@@nathanielbacon2661Spike has killed two slayers. Angel can't beat one.
@DaDunge Spike almost died battling those 2 slayers and he only survived Buffy because he's manipulated her into letting him live multiple times. He is a wild and reckless character who always pursues a challenge. Angelus is more calculating and likely to slip away in the darkness if things arent going his way. He's smarter and spent 200 years avoiding the current slayer because he knew she would be stronger than him. That's just a difference in their characters, not their physical strength.
@@nathanielbacon2661As I recall it Buffy never actually defeats Spike in a head on confrontation. She does however kick Angel's ass on several occasions. Faith also kicks Angel's ass more than once and the only time he wins is because she's suidical and want him to kill her.
And no it's not about strength it's about skill. Spike is a better fighter than Angel.
I always find it incredibly sad that even though Xander knows about the dangers of Sunnydale after dark he'd still rather sleep outside and risk being vamp food than stay inside with his family on Christmas.
Faith doesn't need to lock her door because as long as her apartment is her residence vampires cannot enter without her express invitation.
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But Angel enters in the Consequences episode, as far as I'm aware he was never invited in
I think vampires can enter hotel/motel rooms, Kakistos also got into her room and Angelus got into Jenny’s uncles room in the 2nd season. It may not be consistent though.
@@colleendooley3689, you may be correct that itinerant lodgings do not deter the vampires. Jenny's uncle lived behind his shop, which would be typical for the ethnic background being portrayed, and as such is a public space.
the wish is such an amazing episode and sets up such iconic stories and characters, its one of those absolutely iconic episodes everyone loves
Amends was one of the best episodes of S3, and for me personally a top ten from the whole show. We are introduced to The First Evil tormenting Angel through his past victims. The concept of The First is that it gave the writers a way of reintroducing old characters to add to the richness of the show, as The First can channel its evil through dead people attacking the mind of the living. The ending scene with Buffy and Angel is brilliantly acted when Buffy is trying to save Angel from daylight, SMG and David Boreanaz absolutely knock it out of the park here, and The Hallmark movie ending even though schmaltzy, just works so well with the storyline. Comic relief with Willow using Barry White to seduce Oz is funny but sweet and innocent too. Again the acting from SMG and DG at the end was superb. Another great episode keeping up the brilliant quality of S3. This is actually a very important episode in the the show. You can see that you really get the show, and appreciate the writing. S3 is just banger after banger, the quality of the episodes just improves so much.
The Wish is always a fan favourite. A great concept here with the alternative reality. We get introduced to Anya The Vengeance Demon, the moral of the episode is be careful what you wish for. Cordelia being Cordelia opens up the alternative dimension, some great comedy one liners here too, and of course foreshadowing again for the future. Cordelia's vacuous airhead friends are so cruel to her and others. Giles saves the day confronting Anya and restores things back to normal. Again we see S3 being so innovative with much better writing and storylines. It just gets better and better. I told you it's a 'bangerfest' from here on in to the S3 finale.
Two fantastic episodes in a row here.
THE WISH
I love how this subverts your expectations, starts off as a Cordelia episode, than becomes a Giles episode. I love how it does show how important they all are and how they show how the group is split and in this world it's amplified. This is an important episode for other reasons too.
Keep in mind Cordelia also did the whole "I don't want to be seen with Xander" speel at the start, yes she grew but that's a teen thing not a misogyny thing, girls do it too.
I love the Bizarro line coming from Cordelia, it's a comic book reference. Bizarro is the name of an anti-villain who shares Superman's powers but is opposite.
In the comic that came after this but was based on Whedon's original script for the film, Buffy left after the films events and continued to Slay with Pike, but she eventually returned, perhaps here she never did. Your Faith comment is correct, Buffy's original Watcher was killed in front of her and her friendship with Pike is what helped her get through it. Here she obviously never got over it like Faith didn't, so she's going through a similar path.
AMENDS
Without spoilers REMEMBER this episode, that's all I'll say, it's an amazing look into Angel's constant torment and why he was so detached from humanity for a hundred years originally. He was constantly tormented and in this episode we see it exaggerated. Oz is showing maturity as he realizes that Willow always had feelings for Xander and they have a connection he doesn't. Most don't usually let themselves deal with that because of their own insecurities, especially women to their boyfriends and their female friends. He's accepting that Willow may always have some love for Xander but he also knows she loves him in a whole different way.
Vampires are the possessed form of the person they were when turned. Angelus drove Druscilla crazy before turning her that's why she's like that. With Angel (Liam is his human name) he was not really a great person & his soulless self could indicate if he had live he might've turned into a psychopath. Or it could be because he was drunk when he was turned.
The snow thing is never explained but when you get into Angel you can kind of figure out why that happened. I could explain it but I don't want to spoil characters for Angel.
Xander is annoying but yeah his home life is sad and in some way pathetic and the fact he is even slightly good and not in juvenile jails shows some character
"The Wish" didn't only show what would have happened to Sunnydale without Buffy...it also showed how Buffy would have ended up without her friends. (And, yes, I think (as you noted) Buffy in the Wish Universe is very Faith-like.)
My theory about Angel is that before he became a vampire and lost his soul, he was empty. Like, there was a void inside him that he couldn't fill. The demon that takes up residence when someone becomes a vampire is influenced by the memories and personality of the person who's body they inhabit. I think that the demon that became Angel inherited that emptiness and, just like he tried to fill it with vice and excess pre-vampirism, he tries to fill it with the pain and fear he causes others. I think that Angel with a soul now is different from the man pre-vampire because, although he wasn't a great guy, he wasn't a psychopath, and he remembers everything that he, did and the enjoyment that he felt, while he was soulless and he feels guilt, shame, and remorse for all of it. Angel with a soul wants to atone and be forgiven, even though he feels like he's unforgivable.
"What's happening? Why is her hair like that?" 🤣Sarah Michelle Gellar has gone on the record saying that when her daughter wanted to get bangs she showed her this episode to warn her off the decision 🤣
That's hilarious!
The First was only able to manifest in Sunnydale, first to Angel and then to Buffy, because of the ritual the Harbingers were performing there. When Buffy defeated the Harbingers/disrupted their ritual, the First used up the last of what it had gotten from the Harbingers to appear to Buffy before fading.
The sudden snow falling from sun-blotting clouds seems like it wasn’t directly related to the First, and was themed as potential divine intervention to save Angel.
Pretty interesting couple of episodes. The alternate universe is unforgettable with the Master coming back and taking over the town.
It is a CHRISTMAS MIRACLE!!! 😂 We do not question it!!!!
Two of the best S3 episodes. The Wish had Joss's co showrunner, Greenwalt, directing it and his consigliere, Noxon, writing it. By this point their mostly wrote everything (with Joss doing tons of rewrites). Amends is one of the first clues Joss, even at this point, started to write and direct 'special' episodes (like L..A. part of Anne or Amends) along with their 'normal' episodes (ie: season opener and finale, and 7th & 16th episodes).
I always took the surprise snowfall as the 1 time that the force of Good actually took part in the war against Evil. Buffy fights evil all the time but it just keeps on coming, this 1 time she was not alone (Scoobies aside). Good to see an emotional reaction from you, I missed that in 'Lovers Walk'.
The "how" on the snow scene is a discussion till this day and the most plausible theory cant be said at this point of the show
I saw an interview on RUclips where Sarah Michelle Gellar mentioned the weird hair was because her hair had gotten so fried it just broke, and no one knew what to do with it, so for this episode Buffy just had reeeeeally tiny bangs.
@7:41 "Buffy Summers, when she moved here." grabs her stomach. Nice touch to show that she still has pain from the injury.
Its odd, alot of people tend to forget about the sad glimpses into Xander's home life like this one when it comes up in later seasons and treat it as if it wasnt long established
I remember that after the first time The Wish aired my mother spent the rest of the show with this pet theory that in some form or other everything was going to turn into some version of The Wish world eventually and that Whedon had planned it that way.
The guy they are picking on is Jonathan played by Danny Strong.
Although he did some more acting (Gilmore Girls) he is now best known for his writing and directing.
He wrote the screen play of the two Mockingbird (Hunger games) movies, created the show Empire, won two Emmys for Game Change, created the acclaimed show Dope Sick about the pharmaceutical industry.
Anyanka is played by Emma Caulfield. She was recently in Wandavision and will return in the upcoming Agatha show.
The thing is, I can definitely see why Oz would be willing to try again, because the others really don't know the extent of the cheating that we the audience do. To Oz, it may look like a "oh no, we're going to die here, but before we do, I'll kiss my childhood crush" moment that he walked in on. Maybe Xander and Willow admitted to the rest, but I doubt it.
I feel like every Vampire has elements of the original human’s soul and had OG human Angel had, had more chances to grow out of being a young, stupid, and an immature man, he’d of started to mature out of bad behaviours. Then again the era he grew up in, didn’t give humans a chance to self reflect. Not like the 19th Century and onwards.
When we meet him in Buffy he’s had almost 100years to self reflect (with his soul) on what Angelous did and what he as himself (originally human) was like.
100 years gives you time to mature, to shape who you are but I argue he didn’t really learn full selfishness till he met and fell in love with Buffy.
Look back from even just episode 1x1 Angel to now Angel. Even looking at episode 2x21 when we flash back to Angel seeing Buffy across the street, he was so lost. I think meeting Buffy changed him on a completely molecular level.
Cordelia's character has already changed a lot, there is even more character development to come. All of the show is about the trials of growing up, sometimes it is more evident in the other characters than Buffy herself.
I'm told that before this episode the make-up team 'vampired' Alyson Hannigan for a Halloween costume. It looked so good they felt they had to have Vampire Willow in the show.
25:45 Not everyone picks up on that.
Season 3 episode 9 of Buffy has a bigger impact on the series then you think.
You asked 😊 the demons aren't demons it's the first evil. A noncoporial entity that breeds evil in all things and can only take the form of the dead. Every form the first took was a victim of Anelous. Buffy and angel did not defeat the first evil. The followers of the first are also not demons they are just men with their eyes cut out that work like a cult for the first.
Some of your questions will be answered once you continue Buffy and if you watch the Angel spinoff. The episode Amends is actually really important.
I believe the unseasonal snowfall and lack of sun was a sign that it was in fact not the first evil that brought Angel back but the powers that be which are the whedonverse version of spirits of light.
Yay Anya. So happy to see her. Poor Cordelia can't catch a break. Cheated on, cast aside, and then killed by vampires.
I love the alternate universe and wish they had done more episodes like this!
Powerful forces just had a tussle over Angel. One side transported him from his hell and dropped him back into his life in Sunnydale.
The First Evil took exception to this and decided to trick him into losing his soul and killing Buffy. To prevent that he chose to sacrifice himself rather than become evil again.
So the other side prevented him from doing that by making it snow. It looks like Angel is a pawn in a much longer game that we’re not privy to.
Cordelia doesn't need to remember or learn a lesson. She was the person wronged. And she's just venting and coping in a healthy way, even hypothetically turning things on Buffy.
It's funny because I made a TOTALLY different face when Willow was "playing" with Angel 😅😂
26:15 Faith is a slayer, there are not many things in the world that could overpower her even if they found her sleeping.
The end of "Amends" was a momentary grace note for the Slayer, and a final offer to Angel to become someone to be counted.
Liam was worthless, Angelus was as evil as he could possibly be and Angel(the composite successor personality to both)was...defeated and useless for the first 90+years of his existence.
Then Whistler showed him Buffy.
Which both inspired him and sidetracked him(and her) into an impossible love. Happiness is not Angel's destiny, warfare is. It's time for him to "get busy living or get busy dying."
This wish also introduces Anya/Anyanka who will be making more appearances later...
37:10 I think it was the powers that be that did it to save Angel because he is needed for the fights to come and the first was manipulating him so he wouldn’t be around to help
Every girl deserves an Oz!
Angelous is very sadistic because part of his psychology is a form of self loathing about the fact that he used to be human (He had a lot of issues in his human life and generally sees turning into a vampire as an ascension into a greater life/purpose). As a result he lashes out at humanity and the things that remind him the most of his human life (e.g., families).
"Why is her hair like that?". The CRIME of putting SMG in that short short bangs T__T
The Master kills Buffy in this alternate universe too, the prophecy is completed.
I just found your reactions and love your commentary. I’m currently on a rewatch at the end of season 6, and season 3 already seems so long ago (for me and the characters). There’s so much for you to look forward to. Enjoy the ride!
The Wish: Cordelia couldn't remember, she died before the curse was lifted. But she did get catharsis which is better than remembering.
Great episodes - especially love the music "Magic snow" by Christophe Beck @ the end of "Amends" 🥺
Comments get so spoilery with Amends... but I do love the episode! I always say, I don't like Christmas miracles as a trope, but it works so well here, and I think it's a testament to good writing and great acting =)
The Wish is fun, but fairly dark. I love all the little details in that one, like they have a winter brunch instead of a winter formal.
It might look so right now but even episodes like The Wish have long term impacts on the show. Always interesting that so many people always see Wishverse Buffy as being like Faith when Faith is nothing like this. Faith is all play no game while Wishverse Buffy is all game no play, if anything she is more like Kendra in that aspect.
It's good Cordelia doesn't remember her wish because then she'd have the memory of her own death.
Cordy can't remember the events in the alternate universe (colloquially known as the Wishverse) because she died there. It's not as though she undid the wish herself.
Seems odd that Anya's power centre being destroyed reversed the wish, but presumably didn't reverse other previous wishes else the primary Buffyverse would be different than it was before the episode.
Completely willing to overlook that minor logic flaw as the episode is one of my favourites.
It is usually nice and warm around this time of year in LA... there are the Santa Ana winds that blow in warm air from the south pacific. It is not unusual to find folks at the beach. So Xander sleeping outside would not normally be all that bad. Are we calling this a Buffy Miracle? hehe We did also get a Buffy-verse version of "It's a Wonderful Life!" Maybe the Universe is saying "Thanks, Buffy! For all of your hard work! And Angel too?" Looking forward to the next episode; I am hoping now that Faith is in town the two of them can stir up some "trouble!"
That ghost thingy was not a demon. It was The First, the literal eternal force of evil, according to its monolog and Giles's books. It probably disappeared because the priests were gone and it couldn't manifest anymore. I'm not quite sure about that.
OK, I can't resist.
Basically: when you say "it doesn't matter to the plot"... be very careful. VERY careful.
I really like that we get a bit of insight into faiths life and how grim it is she has no family her watcher was killed and she has no friends - all of these things are what make her such a brilliant contrast of buffy- all of the same power but none of the support networks and no one to be with at Christmas! Why hasn’t one of the Scoobies house her so she doesn’t have to live in that dingy motel!!!
37:18 ..."What's about that demon? That was like a giant ghost?"... That's "The First"; allegedly, the first evil to appear on this world. Has no physical form, but as you could seen in the episode, can read people's hearts and influence their minds... As long as there are people in this world, evil will remain; and as long as evil remains, so it will The First...
I like how at first glance "The Wish" seems to be completely pointless. There are no lasting consequences of what happened in the alternate universe, and not even Cordelia remembers. But Anyanka is still around and does remember!
The snowfall is a deus ex machina, but it doesn't pretend to be anything else. In fact, I think that's the point: it's the forces of Good in the universe (whatever or wherever They are) taking action to save Angel from The First Evil (and himself).
Oz is so much stronger than me because I would have told Willow that I'd be willing to start over but only as friends I'd have no desire of getting back together
I see that others have explained how the First Evil was the one torturing Angel. The First Evil doesn't have a physical form. It can look like any dead person, but it can't physical touch anyone. Hence its minions with the no-eye look.
As for the snowstorm, I always interpreted this way. The First Evil spends days torturing Angel with images of his past deeds and fantasies of sleeping with Buffy only to murder her. And if there is a side for the spiritual good guys, they do nothing to intervene. But when it comes down to it and Angel is reduced to trying to kill himself, there is a freak snowstorm in the middle of a heatwave. The other side never stopped the torture of Angel... but it acted to keep him around.
00:46 - 00:53 Eeeeerrrr...NO. No,they definitely shouldn't.😅😅😅Be ALWAYS careful what you wish for in the Buffyverse.😬
02:22 - 02:23 ❤❤❤❤ 05:23 Oh!Cordelia 2.0 meets Cordelia 1.0!! 08:23 One thing I never realized until someone pointed it out is that everyone is wearing dull colours.
*Me Whenever VampWill Does...Pretty Much ANYTHING:* 09:46 - 09:48
10:30 - 10:33 (Nod-nod) 10:34 - 10:35 (Nod-nod) 10:36 (Nod-nod) 10:37 - 10:38 (Nod-nod)
11:14 Oh,the irony. She's the one who wished for this AU and she's the 1st one to die in it(among the main characters,that it).Good job,Cordy.👏👏👏
11:49 - 11:51 No...!!Leave the puppy alone!!😖😖😖 12:24 🤮 16:30 - 16:33 His last word is always"Buffy"...!!😭🖤💛 16:41 - 16:47 🧡💔
21:05 - 21:11 Angelus. But yes,it's him. In Italian it's pretty clear thanks to the voice...you didn't recognize it in English? 21:22 - 21:2 26 excellent questions.
22:28 - 22:31 Apart from the accent,your 1st pronunciation is correct..in Italian you DON'T cut letters out of the words. And"La Morte"means literally"The Death".💀🖤
23:54 - 24:04 😭🧡❤ I wish the same could happen with Xander&Cordelia!!🥺💙💜I'm sorry,but S3 has *all* my OTPs in it!!😩
24:56 - 25:04 I don't care,they're just too cute!!!!🧡🧡❤❤ 26:21 - 26:23 🤥 26:32 - 26:39 😭🤎 26:55 - 26:58 C'mon,Giles.🙄💢
28:29 - 29:10 Probably a combination of former human personality+the personality of the demon who possesses the human's body after killing him.🤔
31:01 - 31:07 Ohh! I forgot this scene was here!🤦♂ #Cringe 31:31 - 31:51 *I-LOVE-OZ!* 🧡🧡🧡🧡 32:29 *YES!!!* 🤎
34:41 - 34:43 *THANK YOU!!!!!* THAT's how you react to this annoying bitch!!!😎💛 36:23 - 36:26 A Christmas Miracle.😇🎄❄🖤💛
Buffy as a typical Slayer, alone, bitter and so dead inside that she was unmoved by the sight of a person in chains in a vampire lair. She was walking away when Angel called out to her. Then she makes a reckless kamikaze attack on the Master...and dies with a look of peace on her face. But at least she was spared the tragedy of the mid season 3 hairdo...
Yep, you're absolutely right. With no Buffy in Sunnydale, Faith would never have become a Slayer. Buffy would have had to die at the hands of the Master, for Kendra, and later Faith, to be activated.
I can totally understand why the alternate-universe Buffy in "The Wish" reminds you of Faith. Many interpret Faith's character as a kind "dark version of Buffy"; A Buffy that may have existed if Buffy didn't have the relatively comfortable, nurturing life she did, with great friends and strong father figure in Giles.
"The Wish" is among the most prominent fan-favourite episodes in season 3 (the best season, in my humble view). It's definitely among the episodes I most vividly remember from watching Buffy on TV as a teenager.
We, the viewers, have always presumed that Buffy made a real difference. With The Wish we get to see just how big an impact she's had.
It looks like, in Wishverse, The Harvest worked, freeing the Master, but for some reason not opening the Hellmouth. Even without the hellmouth, things were bad enough.
Oz is one of the most awesome characters in the show.
37:15 the first evil is a powerful entit but not the only powerful entity out there.
Essentially, the spirit of The First Evil in the universe decided that Angel was important enough that he needed to be removed from play, by either corrupting him back to darkness or getting him to kill himself. And the universe said No. Not today, we brought you back for a reason and you're staying. Lol.
Damn, the scene with the guy saying he would not want to be seen with Xanders cast-off brought back memories of the time one girl told me she doesn't mind making out with me, she just didn't want to be seen in public with me. Ah, early 20s, what an interesting time it was.
Idk if you already know but there’s another Hellmouth in Cleveland. That’s why Buffy’s there instead of Sunnydale. Also it’s intentional that she reminds you of Faith. Faith is Buffy’s mirror - what would’ve happened if Buffy hadn’t had a support system. But Buffy’s personality and sense of duty still comes out which causes her to act kinda like Kendra too. Because Buffy’s fighting style is so textbook here, and she’s already given up. Faith has a lot of rage and her style is as unorthodox - more unorthodox even - than Buffy’s. Faith’s modus operandi is to burn everything down with her. I don’t think she would’ve had a lot of trouble killing The Master.
Don't think too much about "Amends". Just take it as a christmas miracle episode 😉
There's more to what was happening in Amends then you've seen so far.
Remember that Faith came to Sunnydale from Cleveland.
You did miss that the people chanting were cultists, the actual enemy was The First Evil, something beyond a mere demon, whom the cultists served.
I have those Christmas lights. The best!
Cordelia doesn't need to remember or learn a lesson. She was the person wronged. And she's just venting and coping in a healthy way, even hypocritically turning things on Buffy.
loved the reactions :)
4:55
If Cordelia was fired from a company, went to an interview for another company and they told her they didn't want to hire her because she got fired, that wouldn't be misogyny, so I'm honestly not seeing how the guy there was being misogynistic. A douchebag, sure, but not misogynistic.
Now hopefully I don't get swamped by angry misandrists.
The Wish Buffy is beyond all else, Buffy without her friends. She reminds us somewhat of Faith? Is this then some insight into Faith too?
Did you notice the vampire drinking faith outside the bronze?