Good Will Hunting 2: Will goes to California to find Skylar, but along the way gets recruited by the CIA into a black ops program called Treadstone. He soon discovers the CIA is up to no good and he tries to leave, but he's not allowed to, so he goes rogue. He hides out with Skylar and they both end up on the run as the CIA tries to hunt down and kill them.
Joe Smith Then, Skyla decides to leave Will because she wanted to live as a normal person without sneaking out. Will was broken but he decided to be involved in a new program called "Black Bride", which was a program designed by CIA to convince Will to return to the program (he changed his name!). Then, he did some operations but in one of them, he had to kill a black man, who was a target, in a boat. Something was wrong in that operation, and well, the "Born identity trilogy" started!
marioalll Lol...then Will learns there is another person in the CIA program who is using his identity (played by Jeremy Renner) and trying to kill him. When Skyla left Will, she hooked up with Jeremy Renner to help kill Will so that with Will out of the way, they could both cash in on all future Good Will Hunting and Bourne sequels!
I feel like it's a bad example because organic chemistry really isn't about memorization, it's about creative and systematic application of a few core principles. Also it's a super fun subject, so I don't know what she's on about.
I love the moment at 1:23. He tried to get all defensive as usual. But quickly realised his bullshit won't work with her. And she knew exactly how to handle him. This scene is gold.
Yes sir, both are wonderful actors but I like Matt's gestures specially when he changes the serious look to the relaxed smile even enjoying the fact that Skyler knows him really well and that doesn't judge him. That 'oh' is great, it shows he is really pleased to be next to a person like her without the need of being defensive. Like you said, the scene is pure gold.
Well he got defensive because it is foreshadowing, since he hadn't told her yet that the "real someone like him" was a tortured, abused soul with lots of emotional and psychological baggage.
@@LuisFernando-yd3mx Yeah. I think, also, folks who have learnt to be very defensive in their lives have a big aversion to judgement in general. When he hears "someone like you", his mind is possibly going "oh heck, here we go again, another negative or skewed judgement coming" but then because she keeps it light-hearted about the 'bars and batting cages', which is comfortable territory for Will, it means he can relax right back down again.
The whole motive behind this scene is that, WILL takes educational materials like CHEMISTRY and Mathematics as a game. He does it for FUN, not because he has to study it for an exam, but because he is entertained by it, he gets immense pleasure in playing it. Just like Beethoven had fun playing the piano. He was not forced into it. Moral of the story : Always do things that gives you fun, dont do it because it will make you more socially accepted , but do it because your heart wants it... Even at the end of this movie, WILL went for what his heart desired....`that girl from harvard`
@Akshay Natu "Leonardo da Vinci was an Italian polymath of the High Renaissance who was active as a painter, draughtsman, engineer, scientist, theorist, sculptor and architect"
I like his character's honesty in this scene. He's actually telling her the truth. Coming from a kid who bullshits most everyone, he seems to respect this girl and tries to explain his gift to her.
You're not necessarily wrong. Some people just have incredibly good hand-eye coordination that they excel at those things. I have two friends who I think fall in the genius category: one who played Counter Strike semi-pro but was just so laid back and resistant to authority that he couldn't get along with any teams, and another guy who gets dates with any girl he runs into. Neither "studied" or "prepared" to do what they do. They just played. But because what they're exceptional at aren't things we normally associate intelligence with, somehow they're not geniuses? BS.
Give me a 3D map editor of almost any type and I can just play... Play until I realize that I can't find a job and that my skill is almost useless. Fuck.
Well-written scene - my favorite little throw away moment is near the end when Will says I "probably" can't hit the ball out of Fenway. There's no way he's even close to hitting the ball out of Fenway but it's a nice little character moment that shows you he's still the arrogant Boston guy in spite of trying to explain his brilliance.
Most high school fields have similar dimensions to professional fields down the foul lines. Boys that played baseball into their teens that showed any aptitude at hitting could probably hit home runs down the foul lines, and Fenway's right field is notoriously short.
actually, any decent athlete (Will Hunting/Matt Damon was seen to be athletic in the movie) could hit the ball out of a major-league park if given enough chances and some fastballs down the middle. Will was being self-depricating and (by this point in the movie, everyone but you understood this fact.
@@thorman944 Thanks for the wildly unnecessary comment at the end. Also, no, any decent athlete cannot hit the ball out of a big league park. Those who played D1 baseball and above, most yes. For the other 95+%, unlikely... hitting a baseball is still the hardest thing to do in sports.
Important point regarding all the people below arguing - Beethoven and Mozart are two different examples - both were genius no doubt about it (although I dislike that word) but both had totally different approaches to their work. Beethoven worked his ass off, sure he was naturally gifted too but it took him ages to write his symphonies etc. Mozart on the other hand was playing and composing as a child - he was like Will says in this clip - he just looked at it and totally understood how to play and write music which is very rare. Similar to that kid in the middle of India who managed to come up with new breakthroughs in high theory mathematics that nobody else could understand and he did it without having any training. Ramanujan was his name I think.
Breaking News - On this day, Thursday, March 31, 2016, after 32 years of service, Harvard Square's Au Bon Pain cafe, where this iconic scene was filmed, officially closed its doors ahead of a massive construction project planned in the area. It was announced in the Boston Globe with only a day's notice; when I arrived this afternoon, the outside patio was entirely devoid of tables & chairs, and they even chopped down all four trees. There were still people inside having one final Au Bon Pain lunch, (but only because they made it before 2 pm), and the chess tables were still there, with people playing in 70 degree weather. A new location for the chain has yet to be announced. Kind of a sad day.
What is up with all these readings of the movie that think the main lesson you're supposed to learn is that if you come to terms with your talent (the talent you actually have, not the one you want), a more fulfilling life will present itself to you? Every bit of the movie screams that, despite being a genius at math and having such a close companionship with the late great geniuses of the canon, Will is not simply living an unsatisfying life -- he's not LIVING at all, in a sense. He's not putting himself out there with others, risking his own emotions and psychological well-being to experience the world and develop relationships of his own. The fact that he's a genius makes this point even more poignant: Even though Will is a genius, even though he has the capacity to know as much as and probably more than the venerable experts in math, history and philosophy (to name a few fields), there's one thing he can never learn simply by reading, namely: what living and experiencing life is like (with all its ups and downs), how HE should live. The scene that just punches this point home (and how could we miss it, with recent events) is where Sean takes Will to the lake and, in what's one of the most touching monologues, shocks Will by making him come face-to-face with his own fear of putting himself out there. And also note that at the end of the movie he just abandons his job to follow a girl, not much of a zealous coming to terms with his talent, if you ask me. One of my favorite lines that makes the point, but in less words than either the monologue or I myself could do, occurs when Sean is telling Will about his wife's little idiosyncrasies: "You're not perfect, sport. And let me save you the suspense. This girl you met, she isn't perfect either. But the question is: whether or not you're perfect for each other. Now you can know everything in the world, sport, but the only way you're findin' out that one is by givin' it a shot. You certainly won't learn from an old fucker like me. Even if I did know, I wouldn't tell a piss ant like you."
You can get a job that allows you to do what you’re talented at and try harder with your relationships. You can do both. We’re not Will who has emotional childhood trauma to deal with. In my current life I can do what I’m good at and work on my relationships.
yer fergettin Chuckie's wisdom, not "retainer!" that whole "Best part of my day speech" His therapist, gf, and best friend want him to choose to be himself. Fix cars? fine Construction? sure. But what do you want, Will?
“It is really important that I learn this” she says, sitting at a small table in the middle of a busy street scene with cars honking, people talking and the wind blowing her papers away. 😂😂😂
now what i learn from this movie is, everyone has got a talent. sometimes it's something intellectual like maths or physics or chemistry, sometimes it's music / arts, sometimes it's sports. a cousin of mine is a talent when it comes to repairing things, he's a naturally gifted mechanic. pity he studied law (that was his mom's idea). needless to say, he's not very happy, and not very good either. if you do the things you love, then you are motivated, learn much easier & faster, and get better results. you excel because that is who you are & that's what you are meant to do. but it's important to know your talent, and stick with it. if Mozart's or Beethoven's parents would have wanted them to become lawyers or businessmen or something else, they probably would have not discovered their real talent (or would have played the piano only as a hobby). then they would have not become that good & the world would have never heard of them,
It would be virtually impossible for mozart or beethoven's parents to steer them in a different direction. When you are that outstandingly talented, it's right there in everybody's faces and there is nothing you can do about it. Mozart composed his first symphony when he was 8 damn years old. No one on earth has even a fraction of his talent. That is akin to having a 15 year old son who can run the 100 meters in 9.4 seconds, a world record. With that kind of talent, you belong to the world, not your parents.
True, but there are still lots of talented musicians poor as fuck and wish they could have majored in Engineering, Math, computer science or business. Your examples are just extreme cases and not applicable to all.
+bumrusherer1985 Apparently you don't understand who Mozart was. Going back all the way to somewhere around 8,000 BC, Mozart's talent would have been obvious. He would have been composing great songs out of the blue with the most primitive instruments ever heard of. Tiger Woods is NOT Mozart. Tiger Woods is nothing, just a good athlete. You're mixing apples and oranges. Mozart was isaac Newton and Albert Einstein combined.
+Robert Prechter playing sports is just as likely as being a music prodigy. A talent is a talent. I've seen stories about a 140 iq guy just content being a bouncer at a bar.
bumrusherer1985 lol the Lyre has been around for thousands of years. Mozart would have composed great pieces of music on that thing. Mozart probably would have invented an instrument. You could throw any instrument at him and he'd master it practically over night. It's not just him, either. Many of the classical greats, beethoven, mendelssohn, brahms, chopin, etc. You saying Mozart wouldn't be composing music in 8000 BC is like saying Einstein wouldn't be coming out with genius theories around that time. Erasthothenes figured out the world was round around 230BC using no special instruments at all.
this scene is a testament to the fact that everyone has their own unique place in the world.our genes decide a part of our personality and our environment decides the rest.but our will however(no pun intended) turns our hopes into reality.
If you watch this movie carefully, you will realize that people like Will don't exist, no matter how far back you go. There are some gifted autistic people who have outstanding memory, but this fictional character is much more than that. Genetic talent is FAR more important than work. Anyone who has posted to this video or ever will in the future could dedicate and spend his entire life trying to be like little Willie and will not even come close to being like this. I'm sick of people like "aroyal641" who downplay genetic gifts and talent and emphasize work. Yeah, like anyone can be beethoven or mozart if they just work really hard, right? NO
It has been 7 years. But still. Genetic gift exists, but it is very rare. And not only that. You can't be Mozart or Beethoven just because of gift. You still need to work hard.
How I see it: Whatever you're good at you're going to enjoy. When Will realized how easily these things came to him, it became fun to look at them and he would probably seek out any arcane subject he could to see if he can "play" that as well. So that's why it was "fun" to him, just like a person who is talented at xyz usually find xyz fun.
gonna have to disagree, seems like he enjoyed it a lot more before it got srs, he was actively looking for problems, vs not being arsed once hes forced to do it. you need challenge or you get bored, and when your "hobby" becomes your "Job" it can often kill it.
ForumLight "Whatever you're good at you're going to enjoy" i just said i disagreed, if there is no challenge there is no entertainment left in it. and it gets boring quickly (especially as a job)
***** i guess for some, generally i like doing new stuff all the time, cuz once i get good at something it gets boring very quickly. it gets harder finding a challenge :P but i guess we're all different like that.
This movie shows how some people are really gifted in a lot of ways, but they come from poverty and hardship and never get to show their talent on a public scale. Its a very strong message, that must reach universities like Harvard.
Driver is brilliant in this film. & of course, kudos to Damon as well. His screenplay is extraordinary, inspired & touches every human emotion. A truly gifted young man.. It almost makes jealous 😫 ... no, no, I mean happily jealous. His many accolades were truly earned for his fine work. 💙
I always felt Driver didn't fit the role every time I have watched this brilliant movie. No, I can't say which actress I prefer to have replaced her. Driver always seemed out of place to me.
This is the beauty with studying...once you build that curiosity to actually understand the world you study for fun...I'm 30 years old and i recently developed this undying itch to understand everything around me and question everything...i now spend 90% of my time just studying for fun ... I am re-reading calculus, stats, physics, bio everything and it has become a hobby ... This curiosity came very late in my life but I'm glad it did...i don't know how it did but it changed my life
It’s not only that will is brilliant that he can master anything he wants but also because he’s an excessive reader as well. He’s fed his genius with countless hours reading that he’s able to not only over power his genius but also become a remarkably fast learner as well
This is so true. Most people who are really good at something, whether it is calculus or baseball. Most people are just born with the gift of whatever they are good at. They did not really have to work hard at it or train hard.
Theres always a spectrum. There are things you can be naturally good at, but there are also things you may have some talent at, but you work your way to become more talented than someone who is "a natural". Hard work and dedication are just as important as natural talent. Like in the movie, Will has all the talent in the world, but he had never put in hard work or dedication into anything foundational like a job, school, or a relationship.
last sentence in the script of this scene is key.. gold to understand geniuses.. and cements the mozart and beethoven analogy. WHEN IT COMES TO STUFF LIKE THAT (her chemistry notes ) I could always just play ! brilliant scene scripting, by the way
It's bullshit tho. Beethoven practiced like mad, because his father made him do it. Entertainment, whether books, movies, games, use this "just comes naturally" bs, so the less able won't feel bad about being lazy, on top of not being that bright.
"beethoven could just play"... that's bs. Beethoven was talented, but his talent was cultivated by years of disciplined training (forced at an early age by his father). This is one aspect of this movie that irks me: it sometimes lends itself to the pervasive belief that innate ability is more important than hard work. Most "geniuses" became famous because they worked harder than others in addition to being talented.
Will worked hard too. He probably read book after book to escape from his abusive past and after hard work he's gotten to the level where it just makes sense to him. I think the phrase, "he could just play" comes from how he looks at what he does. He doesn't see all of the math problems as something looming and hard or even impossible to do. He knows how to do it because of the hard work. Just like Beethoven. Beethoven could walk into a room with a piano and just play it because he understood it. But hey, I could be wrong.
no you missing the point, you could be me and Beethoven in a room. and had us train together and I would be no were near as good. he can play do stuff that most people cant with out a lot of work.
aroyal641 you're taking it too literal. He's not saying that he creates his work just by looking at the piano for the first time. He's saying that he learned it faster than the regular joe. That's what he meant when saying "he could just play." He just had it in him, not like an average person does.
Genius is not a level to be reached; it cannot be a goal. If it exists, it is inherent. However, devotion to work, however that is required, is still always required in order to become your personal best at anything. Anything at all.
except that there isnt someone like that and there never was. It's not based on any true story. This movie is a fantasy.. and the bit of the fantasy that most annoys me is that he's supposed to be a smart JOCK, as opposed to a movie about a quiet, awkward genius who solves math problems alone in his apartment taking years over a single problem, and is never especially thought of by anyone beyond, if they're lucky, a wikipedia entry someday
It's a political process, and Matt wasn't a member yet. Best actor Oscars don't get handed to youngsters, who haven't paid their dues. Everyone in that movie deserved an award.
Ryan Matt Damon is no Will Hunting. He's smart and talented, and maybe molested as a boy, but he's no super genius, he just invents that character to impress us. Deep down inside, he's a bit too socialist and way too arrogant to be a lovable guy, like the character he makes himself into. Be careful of good actors, they will fool you. Just look at Mel Gibson, if you want see how they can fools us. He's no Patriot, is he.
***** people like Mel Gibson will tell you what they think you want to hear to make you like them, and then say the opposite to another crowd, for the same purpose. I'm telling you, that Mel Gibson's best roles have been opposite from his real character. Politically, he is a socialist, and a bigot. Nothing like Riggs, or the Patriot at all.
bethoven and mozart appart from having a natural ability were really, and i mean really, trained before they could just play.you dont conquer knowledge just like that
Ofcourse it is.And his natural talent would make for nothing had his father not been a musical instructor and his house filled with music since before he was born.
mskidi ... how do you explain then some people (my son included) can just hear a piece of music & play it on the keyboard/piano or whatever... that's what you call gifted my friend...
If you had put equations in front of him before he knew what they meant, he woulnd't be able to play either. I think he's equating it to writing music.
I've been there. When I joined the air force as a calibration tech they told me I was crazy. The only thing I knew about electronics was how to turn the volume knob up. And I blew some doors off. Sometimes you just have to believe.
Many people are just built different. I had tons of fun just learning and figuring out how things work and all the ways they could interact with other things. I went to school for mechanical engineering and did great, but ultimately didn't manage it as a professional because I sucked shit at social things and forcing it just gave me a mental breakdown. I also excelled in other areas, but social opposition, lack of support and no one to get me into the right places, meet the right people and/or get environments free of social stress killed those avenues of opportunity. To me this movie doesn't feel so much like the wonder of discovering a hidden genius and achieving a breakthrough in getting them to fulfill their potential. To me it's more like a series of professionals trying to force a good dude doing no wrong into their hopes and ideals, tunnel-visioning on his gift, and ignoring all the other things that make him human. I've had all kinds attempts at heart-to-heart's from people trying to fix me like he was throughout the movie, but the common theme has always been that they didn't really weren't equipped to handle the task they set up for themselves, and largely ignored or downplayed the issues I was dealing with. The problem is that the particulars of my existence are just so foreign to them that they subconsciously can't believe what I'm telling them and reframe a modus-operandi compatible with mine. But I can't really blame them for that. They're just doing the best they can with what they have and can afford. Human limits and all-a that. But saying sorry doesn't put Humpty Dumpty back together again. It still causes harm. And now I have a subconscious complex about getting help and talking with others. A continuous history of difficult and unhelpful encounters has given me a deep-seated fear and mistrust, and if people were to talk to me like the way people did to Will in the movie, I would be filled with the urge to break their nose for not listening to what I'm putting down and being so damn pushy about their own opinions. Not that I would actually assault anyway. No, instead I shut down and my brain literally eats itself trying to find a way out. (to clarify, no, I'm not equating my intellectual ability with that of the character in the movie, nor do I claim I'm a genius. I just have some areas I'm notably better at than average, and visa versa.)
Nonsense. There are thousands of people who dedicate their lives to that type of work, and never reach genius level. There are people who are just that good without having to work at it.
I actually have a friend like this never showed up to school only showed up for test would get 98-103 every test he would then leave because the rubric said test are 75 percent of our grade but it’s strange he doesn’t want to have a good job that he can make millions he never even seen this movie
If you are reading this comment and you cannot relate anyone you've ever met to this level of intelligence, simply revert to the statement the Professor made when Will burnt the proofs in the office... "You're right, Will. I can't do this proof, but you can. When it comes to that there are only a handful of people in the world that can tell the difference between you and me....(sorry) so am I. Most days I wish I never met you because then I could sleep at night and not have to realize there was someone like you out there...and watch you throw it all away."
The professor is a bit of a narcissist as the script implies, hence it is difficult for him to acknowledge another individual's superior ability. My own IQ is up there in that sixth standard deviation from the mean so I have some idea of the encounter. It is almost instinctive that we high IQ people so easily recognize each other and soon sort out who is the 'smartest one in the room' . And yes, when I have encountered those few who were above my ability I always felt envious of their ability, but I never lost any sleep over it. This was a very difficult film to make because of the subject matter, Genius. Robin Williams and Ben Affleck both tested out in the fifth or sixth standard deviation from the mean in IQ. For them they tried to make the intelligence of Will Hunting more accessible to the ordinary and slightly above average individuals. This scene expresses something of how having such a high IQ works, you just see things other people can't. It's not about the love of a subject or love of learning or even doing. We do because we can, because it becomes close to a compulsion. Some of us are very focused in very narrow but deep areas, others are wide in their visions of the world they see. Genius is its own realm with many variations. Will uses the analogy of music composition which is true enough. I try to describe IQ more as the ability to discern increasingly complex patterns (which it is to some part since we use such pattern recognition in testing) but that is perhaps only half of it. In a way it is like trying to describe creativity, Back in the late 1960s and early 1970s there were those people who tried to sell creativity classes to business executives who tend to have almost no native ability for creativity. You can't teach creativity and you can't learn it no matter how hard you try. Hence we have Will telling Minnie his limits, he can't do everything. If you read the comments you should discern that individuals will see what they want to see, hence the comments about the personal interaction between the pair. That is fair enough for there is complexity in that relationship. A few see the pair struggle to try and 'define' each other, this is something everyone does in any relationship. We put the people we meet and interact with into categories we have learned through experience and sometimes we do not have a category for the outlier. Thus Minnie struggles to categorize Will. Then there is the simple declaration by Affleck to Will that he recognizes Will does not belong in the neighborhood, is not really one of them, that he is so very different and needs to find where he fits in society. This basic bit of perception is brilliant in the film. This is a film that has many levels of thought and most individuals will never see nor understand the higher levels. But the emotional intelligence connects with most individuals if you wish to believe that there is such a thing as emotional intelligence. It is one of these "We can't measure it but we know it when the feeling hits us" sort of thing. As I aid, the comments are interesting as various individuals hit only a piece of the target. Something to think about.
One of the great mysteries of humanity on display here if only we could discover it so that we could create it in people: genius and prodigy in the form of extreme talent and superiority with little or no formal training or experience. How and why do a handful of people have such extreme ability and is there a way to access this and nurture it in people or will it only be a rare phenomenon we will never understand nor be able to create or replicate?
This is waay more profound than you might 'think'. what he is describing is Being ,or that which is awake to itself . there is no understanding "It" , it just is. Now combine that with an active brain/ nervous system and you have extraordinary talent . It's not the specific talent that is the dominate feature but waht that talent appears inside of as consciousness awake to itself . Somehow these super talented people manage to be more identified with that which is awake than the specific talent that is occurring simultaneously .
Some people are kept from what they could have just played, and learn too late where they could have gone. That happened to me. But it gave me the ability to "just play" in areas I never would have discovered.
Truth. We are all just pawns in this game of life. We need to pay attention to the important. We all breath and we all have loss. We need to do better. It's like Beethoven. He invited and inspired Music. The Beatles. If not for them we wouldn't have modern music
so many people taking the "Beethoven looks at a piano and he could just play" line too literally. of course geniuses like him put in hundreds of hours of hard work to become who they are, that's OBVIOUS. you're missing the point. all they're trying to do is highlight how important talent is, they're not downplaying hard work.
Yeah, well most people are kinda dumb. They simply couldn't understand the point of this scene. Yes studying was involved, but dude took to it like a fish to water. Same goes for any "Genius." They all studied, because you have to, to learn, but their rate and level of progress is exponential.
this is so true. I can relate. My IQ is one of the highest. Believe me, one of the highest. It's tremendous. I have all the IQ's. They're mine. I have so many I don't know what to do with them anymore. I just don't. And when you look at China - Look people come running to me asking for help on their homework, and I tell them I can't, I mean I can but I can't I'm too busy not doing their homework. My IQ is up there at that level you know.
Minnie Driver always plays the good parts..Loved her in "Grosse Point Blank"...with John Cusack..and being smart? Smart has too many levels to actually be defined..
"Nobody studies [Organic Chemistry] for fun." Not true. I took Orgo in college for fun. And I've continued to study it, even though I studied the humanities. The inherent quest for knowledge is why. I'm a curious person who likes to fill in gaps of knowledge by learning new things.
yp and it was during that century and preceeding it that we had most of our polymaths.. and that was before the bloody internet.. i wonder why so.. very very interesting..
I would think Will's comments about piano playing are backwards. When someone who has no idea how to play the piano sees a piano, they would immediately think of things like Beethoven or Mozart, or specific pieces/songs, but when a piano player sees a piano they would think of keys, chords, quality of the piano, etc.
we all wish we could be like Will; but the real story is maybe he faced very large learning issues and had to develop his mind in his own way; maybe he became an autodidact because he had to learn to think on a multi dimensional level. Maybe he saw pages and words in three dimensions; maybe he ingested from right to left rather than left to right. Maybe he learned to read books from the middle to the end; from the end to the middle; and and from the middle to the start. given his anti social upbringing perhaps that was a rebellion against his struggles with linear thought.
Nothing you learn in college is important. It's just for a grade and nothing you learned is ever used in the real world, unless of course you return to academia. Also, Organic Chemistry is so fucking easy...they should have used Physical Chem if she wanted to sound like it was hard. Organic is a sophomore class in every university (nearly).
Yup. Incredibly limited set of atoms. I say the same thing to meteorology, but yea, same thing, fluids. Add gravity and curvature and your mind will be spinning, quite literally. But hey, it saved the French at the 2nd WW. Good thing humans are not smart. ; )
As someone who majored in chemistry during my college undergrad years, I can assure you that organic chemistry is in fact a *_LOT_* of fun - one of the funnest science classes that I've ever taken, in fact, to the point that I sometimes use my free time to draw and/or name complex organic structures! Hence, I have no idea what this girl is talking about! xD lol
Chevy Chase Well, I can definitely agree with you there - there is a unique kind of beauty to the structures of organic molecules, which makes understanding them relatively simple.
As someone who should have completed basic English courses during your undergrad years (at least two years of English is required at most colleges), you should have know not to use "funnest" when describing organic chemistry.
Gustav Ramirez I agree. I used to play a little game of naming the letters of alphabet and Chinese symbols in organic way. It was pretty fun. As for the movie, there are some people who do these subjects just for the sake of entring into some college, and getting a degree... Over here the girl is doing this subject for the sake of entering medical college... So it's all just boring. But Organic is really beautiful. It far better than video games.
Good Will Hunting 2: Will goes to California to find Skylar, but along the way gets recruited by the CIA into a black ops program called Treadstone. He soon discovers the CIA is up to no good and he tries to leave, but he's not allowed to, so he goes rogue. He hides out with Skylar and they both end up on the run as the CIA tries to hunt down and kill them.
Joe Smith This is an underrated comment
No robin William
Joe Smith Then, Skyla decides to leave Will because she wanted to live as a normal person without sneaking out. Will was broken but he decided to be involved in a new program called "Black Bride", which was a program designed by CIA to convince Will to return to the program (he changed his name!). Then, he did some operations but in one of them, he had to kill a black man, who was a target, in a boat. Something was wrong in that operation, and well, the "Born identity trilogy" started!
imran kahn True. But a sequel wouldn't necessarily need Robin Williams.
marioalll Lol...then Will learns there is another person in the CIA program who is using his identity (played by Jeremy Renner) and trying to kill him. When Skyla left Will, she hooked up with Jeremy Renner to help kill Will so that with Will out of the way, they could both cash in on all future Good Will Hunting and Bourne sequels!
This guy seems smart. Maybe he’ll become an astronaut one day
Several different astronauts.
@Akshay Natu because space is fake
Never happen, and if it did he certainly wouldn't go to Mars. 😊
He did - professor Mann in Interstellar.
@@mav45678 woosh
when it came to finding oddly specific genres of pornographic filth on the internet i could always just play...
brilliant
Aaron Rodriguez lol
Hidden Genius.
you have a beautiful mind
Best comment I’ve ever read bravo lmao
turns out this a bad movie to watch while you are procrastinating doing your organic chemistry homework
Zach S or a great one.
Minnie Driver actually looks like she is just speaking off the cuff to some friend at a restaurant. It is some of the best acting Ive ever seen.
She just looks like she has a giant block head to me.
I thought the opposite. Damon looks and sounds organic but for her this sounds like an audition
I didn’t remember her being this good in the movie. Kudos
"Have you studied organic chemistry.?"
"A little bit"
"Oh just for fun"
"Yeah for kicks"
"Are you mad?"
Love that exchange.
i couldn't with the over exaggerated english accent.
vaiouser how it is over exaggerated if thats how she really talks?
lmao over exaggerated. She sounds exactly like the voice of Jane from Tarzen though.
InvictuZ That is Jane from Tarzan lol
I feel like it's a bad example because organic chemistry really isn't about memorization, it's about creative and systematic application of a few core principles. Also it's a super fun subject, so I don't know what she's on about.
I love the moment at 1:23. He tried to get all defensive as usual. But quickly realised his bullshit won't work with her. And she knew exactly how to handle him. This scene is gold.
Yes sir, both are wonderful actors but I like Matt's gestures specially when he changes the serious look to the relaxed smile even enjoying the fact that Skyler knows him really well and that doesn't judge him. That 'oh' is great, it shows he is really pleased to be next to a person like her without the need of being defensive. Like you said, the scene is pure gold.
Probably why he won an Oscar.
Well he got defensive because it is foreshadowing, since he hadn't told her yet that the "real someone like him" was a tortured, abused soul with lots of emotional and psychological baggage.
@@LuisFernando-yd3mx Yeah. I think, also, folks who have learnt to be very defensive in their lives have a big aversion to judgement in general. When he hears "someone like you", his mind is possibly going "oh heck, here we go again, another negative or skewed judgement coming" but then because she keeps it light-hearted about the 'bars and batting cages', which is comfortable territory for Will, it means he can relax right back down again.
The entire movie is gold. Every actor, especially Robin Williams was perfectly cast.
The whole motive behind this scene is that, WILL takes educational materials like CHEMISTRY and Mathematics as a game. He does it for FUN, not because he has to study it for an exam, but because he is entertained by it, he gets immense pleasure in playing it. Just like Beethoven had fun playing the piano. He was not forced into it.
Moral of the story : Always do things that gives you fun, dont do it because it will make you more socially accepted
, but do it because your heart wants it...
Even at the end of this movie, WILL went for what his heart desired....`that girl from harvard`
Well, said
so true maths and physics is more fun the more you get into it. You get better and level and and get immense pleasure...
@@dildobaggins2759 very true
@Akshay Natu you would be surprised mate...... people like leonardo da vinci have existed so i rest my case.
@Akshay Natu "Leonardo da Vinci was an Italian polymath of the High Renaissance who was active as a painter, draughtsman, engineer, scientist, theorist, sculptor and architect"
I like his character's honesty in this scene. He's actually telling her the truth. Coming from a kid who bullshits most everyone, he seems to respect this girl and tries to explain his gift to her.
weird thing is its true. every one has something that they can just look at and just play.
Not everybody but a lot of people do.
Being fortunate enough to have a passion in life is extreme in itself. ;)
chase1146 like when I see magnificent titties. I can just play
You can't play though
except me
Mini Driver really knows what she's doing. She is hypnotic in this.
Hmm, I'm also genius, becouse when I see Fifa, Gta V or Minecraft I could always just play...
lol
+kkuksaniec What level are you in GTA V my fine sir?
+karl bale 😂😂
You're not necessarily wrong. Some people just have incredibly good hand-eye coordination that they excel at those things. I have two friends who I think fall in the genius category: one who played Counter Strike semi-pro but was just so laid back and resistant to authority that he couldn't get along with any teams, and another guy who gets dates with any girl he runs into. Neither "studied" or "prepared" to do what they do. They just played. But because what they're exceptional at aren't things we normally associate intelligence with, somehow they're not geniuses? BS.
Give me a 3D map editor of almost any type and I can just play...
Play until I realize that I can't find a job and that my skill is almost useless.
Fuck.
Well-written scene - my favorite little throw away moment is near the end when Will says I "probably" can't hit the ball out of Fenway. There's no way he's even close to hitting the ball out of Fenway but it's a nice little character moment that shows you he's still the arrogant Boston guy in spite of trying to explain his brilliance.
might be wrong but I think Matt Damon literally did that around this time
Most high school fields have similar dimensions to professional fields down the foul lines. Boys that played baseball into their teens that showed any aptitude at hitting could probably hit home runs down the foul lines, and Fenway's right field is notoriously short.
actually, any decent athlete (Will Hunting/Matt Damon was seen to be athletic in the movie) could hit the ball out of a major-league park if given enough chances and some fastballs down the middle. Will was being self-depricating and (by this point in the movie, everyone but you understood this fact.
@@thorman944 Thanks for the wildly unnecessary comment at the end. Also, no, any decent athlete cannot hit the ball out of a big league park. Those who played D1 baseball and above, most yes. For the other 95+%, unlikely... hitting a baseball is still the hardest thing to do in sports.
@@thorman944 You may not be a dick in real life, but your comment is what a real life dick would say.
Important point regarding all the people below arguing -
Beethoven and Mozart are two different examples - both were genius no doubt about it (although I dislike that word) but both had totally different approaches to their work.
Beethoven worked his ass off, sure he was naturally gifted too but it took him ages to write his symphonies etc.
Mozart on the other hand was playing and composing as a child - he was like Will says in this clip - he just looked at it and totally understood how to play and write music which is very rare.
Similar to that kid in the middle of India who managed to come up with new breakthroughs in high theory mathematics that nobody else could understand and he did it without having any training. Ramanujan was his name I think.
"Play" in this scene suggests to me hard work that produces fun and doesn't feel like work.
Srinivasa Ramanujan
Ramanujan still educated himself. otherwise agree
William james sidis also fits the criteria
Breaking News - On this day, Thursday, March 31, 2016, after 32 years of service, Harvard Square's Au Bon Pain cafe, where this iconic scene was filmed, officially closed its doors ahead of a massive construction project planned in the area. It was announced in the Boston Globe with only a day's notice; when I arrived this afternoon, the outside patio was entirely devoid of tables & chairs, and they even chopped down all four trees. There were still people inside having one final Au Bon Pain lunch, (but only because they made it before 2 pm), and the chess tables were still there, with people playing in 70 degree weather. A new location for the chain has yet to be announced. Kind of a sad day.
No one gives a SHIT
+Asfand Yar About your opinion*
+Asfand Yar How do you like them apples?
whats 70 degree in celsius?(asking the real question here)
roughly 21 C
What is up with all these readings of the movie that think the main lesson you're supposed to learn is that if you come to terms with your talent (the talent you actually have, not the one you want), a more fulfilling life will present itself to you?
Every bit of the movie screams that, despite being a genius at math and having such a close companionship with the late great geniuses of the canon, Will is not simply living an unsatisfying life -- he's not LIVING at all, in a sense. He's not putting himself out there with others, risking his own emotions and psychological well-being to experience the world and develop relationships of his own. The fact that he's a genius makes this point even more poignant: Even though Will is a genius, even though he has the capacity to know as much as and probably more than the venerable experts in math, history and philosophy (to name a few fields), there's one thing he can never learn simply by reading, namely: what living and experiencing life is like (with all its ups and downs), how HE should live. The scene that just punches this point home (and how could we miss it, with recent events) is where Sean takes Will to the lake and, in what's one of the most touching monologues, shocks Will by making him come face-to-face with his own fear of putting himself out there. And also note that at the end of the movie he just abandons his job to follow a girl, not much of a zealous coming to terms with his talent, if you ask me.
One of my favorite lines that makes the point, but in less words than either the monologue or I myself could do, occurs when Sean is telling Will about his wife's little idiosyncrasies:
"You're not perfect, sport. And let me save you the suspense. This girl you met, she isn't perfect either. But the question is: whether or not you're perfect for each other.
Now you can know everything in the world, sport, but the only way you're findin' out that one is by givin' it a shot. You certainly won't learn from an old fucker like me. Even if I did know, I wouldn't tell a piss ant like you."
I don't give two shits that I'm replying three years late, this post deserves support. 100% agree man
Now that's what I was thinking
You can get a job that allows you to do what you’re talented at and try harder with your relationships. You can do both. We’re not Will who has emotional childhood trauma to deal with. In my current life I can do what I’m good at and work on my relationships.
yer fergettin Chuckie's wisdom, not "retainer!" that whole "Best part of my day speech"
His therapist, gf, and best friend want him to choose to be himself. Fix cars? fine Construction? sure. But what do you want, Will?
You are way over-analyzing a good movie written by some early 20s kids, people like Will does not exist in the real world.
“It is really important that I learn this” she says, sitting at a small table in the middle of a busy street scene with cars honking, people talking and the wind blowing her papers away. 😂😂😂
now what i learn from this movie is, everyone has got a talent. sometimes it's something intellectual like maths or physics or chemistry, sometimes it's music / arts, sometimes it's sports. a cousin of mine is a talent when it comes to repairing things, he's a naturally gifted mechanic. pity he studied law (that was his mom's idea). needless to say, he's not very happy, and not very good either.
if you do the things you love, then you are motivated, learn much easier & faster, and get better results. you excel because that is who you are & that's what you are meant to do.
but it's important to know your talent, and stick with it. if Mozart's or Beethoven's parents would have wanted them to become lawyers or businessmen or something else, they probably would have not discovered their real talent (or would have played the piano only as a hobby). then they would have not become that good & the world would have never heard of them,
It would be virtually impossible for mozart or beethoven's parents to steer them in a different direction. When you are that outstandingly talented, it's right there in everybody's faces and there is nothing you can do about it. Mozart composed his first symphony when he was 8 damn years old. No one on earth has even a fraction of his talent. That is akin to having a 15 year old son who can run the 100 meters in 9.4 seconds, a world record. With that kind of talent, you belong to the world, not your parents.
True, but there are still lots of talented musicians poor as fuck and wish they could have majored in Engineering, Math, computer science or business. Your examples are just extreme cases and not applicable to all.
+bumrusherer1985 Apparently you don't understand who Mozart was. Going back all the way to somewhere around 8,000 BC, Mozart's talent would have been obvious. He would have been composing great songs out of the blue with the most primitive instruments ever heard of. Tiger Woods is NOT Mozart. Tiger Woods is nothing, just a good athlete. You're mixing apples and oranges. Mozart was isaac Newton and Albert Einstein combined.
+Robert Prechter playing sports is just as likely as being a music prodigy. A talent is a talent. I've seen stories about a 140 iq guy just content being a bouncer at a bar.
bumrusherer1985 lol the Lyre has been around for thousands of years. Mozart would have composed great pieces of music on that thing. Mozart probably would have invented an instrument. You could throw any instrument at him and he'd master it practically over night. It's not just him, either. Many of the classical greats, beethoven, mendelssohn, brahms, chopin, etc. You saying Mozart wouldn't be composing music in 8000 BC is like saying Einstein wouldn't be coming out with genius theories around that time. Erasthothenes figured out the world was round around 230BC using no special instruments at all.
Leonardo DiCaprio is so good in this scene
this scene is a testament to the fact that everyone has their own unique place in the world.our genes decide a part of our personality and our environment decides the rest.but our will however(no pun intended) turns our hopes into reality.
God decides*
@@chrismarple gods not real lil bro
@@chrismarple God is ie. energy, frequency, vibration.. It's in our dna
And most people have no place in the world, mediocre and below average at all facets of life.
@@JosephcallsmeNolan lmao
How his face changes when he ask "someone like me?" It's crazy how you can have self-loathing even because of a amazing gift like that.
You can tell he feels isolated being that intelligent. Her saying that triggered him a bit.
One of my favorites movies. And dead poets society too. RIP robin Williams
Me too!!!
If you watch this movie carefully, you will realize that people like Will don't exist, no matter how far back you go. There are some gifted autistic people who have outstanding memory, but this fictional character is much more than that. Genetic talent is FAR more important than work. Anyone who has posted to this video or ever will in the future could dedicate and spend his entire life trying to be like little Willie and will not even come close to being like this. I'm sick of people like "aroyal641" who downplay genetic gifts and talent and emphasize work. Yeah, like anyone can be beethoven or mozart if they just work really hard, right? NO
It has been 7 years. But still. Genetic gift exists, but it is very rare. And not only that. You can't be Mozart or Beethoven just because of gift. You still need to work hard.
How I see it: Whatever you're good at you're going to enjoy. When Will realized how easily these things came to him, it became fun to look at them and he would probably seek out any arcane subject he could to see if he can "play" that as well. So that's why it was "fun" to him, just like a person who is talented at xyz usually find xyz fun.
gonna have to disagree, seems like he enjoyed it a lot more before it got srs, he was actively looking for problems, vs not being arsed once hes forced to do it. you need challenge or you get bored, and when your "hobby" becomes your "Job" it can often kill it.
Jediskum I never said "He must get a job doing it" :) But getting a job at something besides something you enjoy can be far worse.
ForumLight "Whatever you're good at you're going to enjoy" i just said i disagreed, if there is no challenge there is no entertainment left in it. and it gets boring quickly (especially as a job)
Jediskum
yea, the sweet spot is its challenging enough but you could still be good at it. Thats what you want.
***** i guess for some, generally i like doing new stuff all the time, cuz once i get good at something it gets boring very quickly. it gets harder finding a challenge :P but i guess we're all different like that.
This movie shows how some people are really gifted in a lot of ways, but they come from poverty and hardship and never get to show their talent on a public scale. Its a very strong message, that must reach universities like Harvard.
Driver is brilliant in this film. & of course, kudos to Damon as well. His screenplay is extraordinary, inspired & touches every human emotion. A truly gifted young man.. It almost makes jealous 😫 ... no, no, I mean happily jealous. His many accolades were truly earned for his fine work. 💙
I always felt Driver didn't fit the role every time I have watched this brilliant movie. No, I can't say which actress I prefer to have replaced her. Driver always seemed out of place to me.
This is the beauty with studying...once you build that curiosity to actually understand the world you study for fun...I'm 30 years old and i recently developed this undying itch to understand everything around me and question everything...i now spend 90% of my time just studying for fun ... I am re-reading calculus, stats, physics, bio everything and it has become a hobby ... This curiosity came very late in my life but I'm glad it did...i don't know how it did but it changed my life
It’s not only that will is brilliant that he can master anything he wants but also because he’s an excessive reader as well. He’s fed his genius with countless hours reading that he’s able to not only over power his genius but also become a remarkably fast learner as well
This is so true. Most people who are really good at something, whether it is calculus or baseball. Most people are just born with the gift of whatever they are good at. They did not really have to work hard at it or train hard.
Literally the opposite of truth.
@@dontshootimfri3ndly853 Literally the opposite of truth.
One of the best iconic movies of a generation
Theres always a spectrum. There are things you can be naturally good at, but there are also things you may have some talent at, but you work your way to become more talented than someone who is "a natural". Hard work and dedication are just as important as natural talent. Like in the movie, Will has all the talent in the world, but he had never put in hard work or dedication into anything foundational like a job, school, or a relationship.
One of my favorites too. Thanks for posting this.
last sentence in the script of this scene is key.. gold to understand geniuses.. and cements the mozart and beethoven analogy. WHEN IT COMES TO STUFF LIKE THAT (her chemistry notes ) I could always just play ! brilliant scene scripting, by the way
It's bullshit tho. Beethoven practiced like mad, because his father made him do it. Entertainment, whether books, movies, games, use this "just comes naturally" bs, so the less able won't feel bad about being lazy, on top of not being that bright.
Only a true artist would understand. 💘
"beethoven could just play"... that's bs. Beethoven was talented, but his talent was cultivated by years of disciplined training (forced at an early age by his father). This is one aspect of this movie that irks me: it sometimes lends itself to the pervasive belief that innate ability is more important than hard work. Most "geniuses" became famous because they worked harder than others in addition to being talented.
O Roy, don't go off and get bingy over a chop at Ludwig, he can take care of himself.
you make a good point sir/madam
Will worked hard too. He probably read book after book to escape from his abusive past and after hard work he's gotten to the level where it just makes sense to him. I think the phrase, "he could just play" comes from how he looks at what he does. He doesn't see all of the math problems as something looming and hard or even impossible to do. He knows how to do it because of the hard work. Just like Beethoven. Beethoven could walk into a room with a piano and just play it because he understood it. But hey, I could be wrong.
no you missing the point, you could be me and Beethoven in a room. and had us train together and I would be no were near as good. he can play do stuff that most people cant with out a lot of work.
aroyal641 you're taking it too literal. He's not saying that he creates his work just by looking at the piano for the first time. He's saying that he learned it faster than the regular joe. That's what he meant when saying "he could just play." He just had it in him, not like an average person does.
Genius is not a level to be reached; it cannot be a goal. If it exists, it is inherent. However, devotion to work, however that is required, is still always required in order to become your personal best at anything. Anything at all.
The simplicity of his explanation was special so special it was perfect......I could alway just play.
imagine being a harvard graduate with admittance to stanford medical school and yet being in the presence of someone like that
except that there isnt someone like that and there never was. It's not based on any true story. This movie is a fantasy.. and the bit of the fantasy that most annoys me is that he's supposed to be a smart JOCK, as opposed to a movie about a quiet, awkward genius who solves math problems alone in his apartment taking years over a single problem, and is never especially thought of by anyone beyond, if they're lucky, a wikipedia entry someday
I love the way she says 'have you completely lost your mind'
This just changed my life.
"No one studies Organic Chemistry for fun."
WHAT-AN-INSULT
"How rude!"
I know. What a stupid remark!
If she thinks organic is hard she isn’t going to like p-chem.
Okay, why didn't he get an Oscar for this movie? No offense to Jack Nicholson, but Matt Damon should have won that year.
It's a political process, and Matt wasn't a member yet. Best actor Oscars don't get handed to youngsters, who haven't paid their dues. Everyone in that movie deserved an award.
Tim Hallas Explains why quite a few people that have deserved them didn't get them, though it doesn't explain why American Hustle got so many.
idk if you know this but he did win an oscar for this movie. not for acting but for writing the movie's screenplay.
Ryan
Matt Damon is no Will Hunting. He's smart and talented, and maybe molested as a boy, but he's no super genius, he just invents that character to impress us. Deep down inside, he's a bit too socialist and way too arrogant to be a lovable guy, like the character he makes himself into. Be careful of good actors, they will fool you. Just look at Mel Gibson, if you want see how they can fools us. He's no Patriot, is he.
*****
people like Mel Gibson will tell you what they think you want to hear to make you like them, and then say the opposite to another crowd, for the same purpose. I'm telling you, that Mel Gibson's best roles have been opposite from his real character. Politically, he is a socialist, and a bigot. Nothing like Riggs, or the Patriot at all.
bethoven and mozart appart from having a natural ability were really, and i mean really, trained before they could just play.you dont conquer knowledge just like that
Mozart wrote his first Minuet at age 5. That's more than just training.
Ofcourse it is.And his natural talent would make for nothing had his father not been a musical instructor and his house filled with music since before he was born.
mskidi ... how do you explain then some people (my son included) can just hear a piece of music & play it on the keyboard/piano or whatever... that's what you call gifted my friend...
If you had put equations in front of him before he knew what they meant, he woulnd't be able to play either. I think he's equating it to writing music.
posted 13 years ago and im just now discovering... LOVE This
I loooooved her character
I've been there. When I joined the air force as a calibration tech they told me I was crazy. The only thing I knew about electronics was how to turn the volume knob up. And I blew some doors off. Sometimes you just have to believe.
Incredible Dialogues, great writing 🔥 🔥 🔥
It's hard to not love these actors! Rip Robin.
Many people are just built different.
I had tons of fun just learning and figuring out how things work and all the ways they could interact with other things. I went to school for mechanical engineering and did great, but ultimately didn't manage it as a professional because I sucked shit at social things and forcing it just gave me a mental breakdown. I also excelled in other areas, but social opposition, lack of support and no one to get me into the right places, meet the right people and/or get environments free of social stress killed those avenues of opportunity.
To me this movie doesn't feel so much like the wonder of discovering a hidden genius and achieving a breakthrough in getting them to fulfill their potential. To me it's more like a series of professionals trying to force a good dude doing no wrong into their hopes and ideals, tunnel-visioning on his gift, and ignoring all the other things that make him human.
I've had all kinds attempts at heart-to-heart's from people trying to fix me like he was throughout the movie, but the common theme has always been that they didn't really weren't equipped to handle the task they set up for themselves, and largely ignored or downplayed the issues I was dealing with.
The problem is that the particulars of my existence are just so foreign to them that they subconsciously can't believe what I'm telling them and reframe a modus-operandi compatible with mine.
But I can't really blame them for that. They're just doing the best they can with what they have and can afford. Human limits and all-a that.
But saying sorry doesn't put Humpty Dumpty back together again. It still causes harm. And now I have a subconscious complex about getting help and talking with others. A continuous history of difficult and unhelpful encounters has given me a deep-seated fear and mistrust, and if people were to talk to me like the way people did to Will in the movie, I would be filled with the urge to break their nose for not listening to what I'm putting down and being so damn pushy about their own opinions. Not that I would actually assault anyway. No, instead I shut down and my brain literally eats itself trying to find a way out.
(to clarify, no, I'm not equating my intellectual ability with that of the character in the movie, nor do I claim I'm a genius. I just have some areas I'm notably better at than average, and visa versa.)
Nonsense. There are thousands of people who dedicate their lives to that type of work, and never reach genius level. There are people who are just that good without having to work at it.
I think that for people like this doing the work doesn't seem like work, it just seems as natural as breathing.
Damn what a good line. I could always just play!
The fake drink sip @39s can’t unsee
They are adorable together!
I actually have a friend like this never showed up to school only showed up for test would get 98-103 every test he would then leave because the rubric said test are 75 percent of our grade but it’s strange he doesn’t want to have a good job that he can make millions he never even seen this movie
Love this movie. Matt Damien is a beautiful man. Love him.
If you are reading this comment and you cannot relate anyone you've ever met to this level of intelligence, simply revert to the statement the Professor made when Will burnt the proofs in the office...
"You're right, Will. I can't do this proof, but you can. When it comes to that there are only a handful of people in the world that can tell the difference between you and me....(sorry) so am I. Most days I wish I never met you because then I could sleep at night and not have to realize there was someone like you out there...and watch you throw it all away."
The professor is a bit of a narcissist as the script implies, hence it is difficult for him to acknowledge another individual's superior ability. My own IQ is up there in that sixth standard deviation from the mean so I have some idea of the encounter. It is almost instinctive that we high IQ people so easily recognize each other and soon sort out who is the 'smartest one in the room' . And yes, when I have encountered those few who were above my ability I always felt envious of their ability, but I never lost any sleep over it.
This was a very difficult film to make because of the subject matter, Genius. Robin Williams and Ben Affleck both tested out in the fifth or sixth standard deviation from the mean in IQ. For them they tried to make the intelligence of Will Hunting more accessible to the ordinary and slightly above average individuals. This scene expresses something of how having such a high IQ works, you just see things other people can't. It's not about the love of a subject or love of learning or even doing. We do because we can, because it becomes close to a compulsion. Some of us are very focused in very narrow but deep areas, others are wide in their visions of the world they see. Genius is its own realm with many variations. Will uses the analogy of music composition which is true enough. I try to describe IQ more as the ability to discern increasingly complex patterns (which it is to some part since we use such pattern recognition in testing) but that is perhaps only half of it. In a way it is like trying to describe creativity, Back in the late 1960s and early 1970s there were those people who tried to sell creativity classes to business executives who tend to have almost no native ability for creativity. You can't teach creativity and you can't learn it no matter how hard you try. Hence we have Will telling Minnie his limits, he can't do everything.
If you read the comments you should discern that individuals will see what they want to see, hence the comments about the personal interaction between the pair. That is fair enough for there is complexity in that relationship. A few see the pair struggle to try and 'define' each other, this is something everyone does in any relationship. We put the people we meet and interact with into categories we have learned through experience and sometimes we do not have a category for the outlier. Thus Minnie struggles to categorize Will. Then there is the simple declaration by Affleck to Will that he recognizes Will does not belong in the neighborhood, is not really one of them, that he is so very different and needs to find where he fits in society. This basic bit of perception is brilliant in the film.
This is a film that has many levels of thought and most individuals will never see nor understand the higher levels. But the emotional intelligence connects with most individuals if you wish to believe that there is such a thing as emotional intelligence. It is one of these "We can't measure it but we know it when the feeling hits us" sort of thing. As I aid, the comments are interesting as various individuals hit only a piece of the target. Something to think about.
Minnie Driver was brilliant in this film
1:48 i love this ammount of politeness and also putting his fist in his defensiveness to be repectful of her inteliigence.
Did anyone else notice when he tried to take a drink with the lid on and no straw at 0:38 ?
good catch
If you look closely the lid is designed that way to drink from it without a straw.
You dont know those "to go" lits? They have a tiny hole to sip from but are mostly closed so that you dont spill anything.
One of the great mysteries of humanity on display here if only we could discover it so that we could create it in people: genius and prodigy in the form of extreme talent and superiority with little or no formal training or experience. How and why do a handful of people have such extreme ability and is there a way to access this and nurture it in people or will it only be a rare phenomenon we will never understand nor be able to create or replicate?
have to watch this movie again.. i miss stuff
This is waay more profound than you might 'think'. what he is describing is Being ,or that which is awake to itself . there is no understanding "It" , it just is.
Now combine that with an active brain/ nervous system and you have extraordinary talent . It's not the specific talent that is the dominate feature but waht that talent appears inside of as consciousness awake to itself . Somehow these super talented people manage to be more identified with that which is awake than the specific talent that is occurring simultaneously .
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Ok
Some people are kept from what they could have just played, and learn too late where they could have gone. That happened to me. But it gave me the ability to "just play" in areas I never would have discovered.
Of ALL movie characters in ~2000 movies I've watched, I've never envied someone more like him. He's even in front of Jodie Foster in Contact.
Truth. We are all just pawns in this game of life. We need to pay attention to the important. We all breath and we all have loss. We need to do better. It's like Beethoven. He invited and inspired Music. The Beatles. If not for them we wouldn't have modern music
"So what are you saying you play the piano"
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It was at that moment, Will knew, he fucked up
Matt can play any role with such as.
He appears to be the everyday man like Gary Cooper or Jimmy Stewart.
Gary Coopa! The strong, silent type!
90s were the best decade ever.
Such a great line.
Will immediately gets all insecure when Skylar says someone like him. Matt Damon is a very good actor.
The BEST scene in that movie is still "You like apples?".and its precursor
Such a humble explanation...no sense of arrogance.
so many people taking the "Beethoven looks at a piano and he could just play" line too literally. of course geniuses like him put in hundreds of hours of hard work to become who they are, that's OBVIOUS. you're missing the point. all they're trying to do is highlight how important talent is, they're not downplaying hard work.
Yeah, well most people are kinda dumb. They simply couldn't understand the point of this scene. Yes studying was involved, but dude took to it like a fish to water. Same goes for any "Genius." They all studied, because you have to, to learn, but their rate and level of progress is exponential.
this is so true. I can relate. My IQ is one of the highest. Believe me, one of the highest. It's tremendous. I have all the IQ's. They're mine. I have so many I don't know what to do with them anymore. I just don't. And when you look at China - Look people come running to me asking for help on their homework, and I tell them I can't, I mean I can but I can't I'm too busy not doing their homework. My IQ is up there at that level you know.
I can relate. Believe me, I can.
When this happens, it's time to share.. maybe in a big bang or the like.
Have you heard of the Gnostics?
Mirrors can lie.
Drugs can make you high
Unplug
And just cry
Just remember:
SIX
MORE
YEARS
The difference between knowledge and wisdom is one is of the past and the other, the future!
I wish i could unlock my mind like that. The crap I do remember is useless.
Minnie Driver always plays the good parts..Loved her in "Grosse Point Blank"...with John Cusack..and being smart? Smart has too many levels to actually be defined..
"so what are you saying, you play the piano?" LOL and this girl is harvard premed, right...
lol the people at harvard are just like any other. The reason they become so successful is they work for it
"Nobody studies [Organic Chemistry] for fun."
Not true. I took Orgo in college for fun. And I've continued to study it, even though I studied the humanities. The inherent quest for knowledge is why. I'm a curious person who likes to fill in gaps of knowledge by learning new things.
+Geoffrey Zoref shut up nerd
+Geoffrey Zoref so why did you major in humanities
+Alex Holmann
Probably because he liked humanities more?
You *can* like more than one thing, you know.
+Geoffrey Zoref But does it make any real sense without messing around with the chemicals?
wow, that is an amazing wide mouth bass.
0:40 Who else thinks she sounds so cute saying, "You're so intent on breaking my balls"?
I got a woody from just that.
Why there's no such nice and genius guy in my class 😭😭
‘Play!’ The key to mystery
when it came to stuff like that I could just play.... so good
yp and it was during that century and preceeding it that we had most of our polymaths.. and that was before the bloody internet.. i wonder why so.. very very interesting..
I would think Will's comments about piano playing are backwards. When someone who has no idea how to play the piano sees a piano, they would immediately think of things like Beethoven or Mozart, or specific pieces/songs, but when a piano player sees a piano they would think of keys, chords, quality of the piano, etc.
Genius.
God damn that is some good writing.
I started studying organic chemistry just for fun 5 years ago.
Education is fun if you allow yourself the patience.
Gotta love the "are you madddd?"
Me too man. I get on a RUclips and just... play. Until 3am.
That’s a pretty good explanation.
we all wish we could be like Will; but the real story is maybe he faced very large learning issues and had to develop his mind in his own way; maybe he became an autodidact because he had to learn to think on a multi dimensional level. Maybe he saw pages and words in three dimensions; maybe he ingested from right to left rather than left to right. Maybe he learned to read books from the middle to the end; from the end to the middle; and and from the middle to the start. given his anti social upbringing perhaps that was a rebellion against his struggles with linear thought.
It's a piece of cake.
The movie that made me fall in love with Minnie Driver.
Nothing you learn in college is important. It's just for a grade and nothing you learned is ever used in the real world, unless of course you return to academia.
Also, Organic Chemistry is so fucking easy...they should have used Physical Chem if she wanted to sound like it was hard. Organic is a sophomore class in every university (nearly).
thx for filming this on ur toaster x
Organic chemistry is rather easy actually. Just try studying extragalactic fluid hydrodynamics for fun.
Yup. Incredibly limited set of atoms.
I say the same thing to meteorology, but yea, same thing, fluids. Add gravity and curvature and your mind will be spinning, quite literally.
But hey, it saved the French at the 2nd WW. Good thing humans are not smart. ; )
As someone who majored in chemistry during my college undergrad years, I can assure you that organic chemistry is in fact a *_LOT_* of fun - one of the funnest science classes that I've ever taken, in fact, to the point that I sometimes use my free time to draw and/or name complex organic structures! Hence, I have no idea what this girl is talking about! xD lol
+Gustav Ramirez As much as I "like" maths, I've always been a concept/visual guy so O-chem was waaaay easier than Physical chem or Gen chem II.
Chevy Chase
Well, I can definitely agree with you there - there is a unique kind of beauty to the structures of organic molecules, which makes understanding them relatively simple.
I agree, org chem is hella fun. The structures are beautiful and it's a kick figuring out which effect will predominate in which kind of reaction.
As someone who should have completed basic English courses during your undergrad years (at least two years of English is required at most colleges), you should have know not to use "funnest" when describing organic chemistry.
Gustav Ramirez I agree. I used to play a little game of naming the letters of alphabet and Chinese symbols in organic way. It was pretty fun.
As for the movie, there are some people who do these subjects just for the sake of entring into some college, and getting a degree... Over here the girl is doing this subject for the sake of entering medical college... So it's all just boring.
But Organic is really beautiful. It far better than video games.
this movie is a joy