Godox V860iii vs Godox V860ii vs Godox V1 - Which one should you get in 2023?
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- Godox just released the new Godox V860iii! So the question is what Godox flash should you get for your Fujifilm camera? Should you upgrade from the V860ii? Should you switch from the Godox V1? If you're in the market for your first flash, which one should you pick between the Godox V860iii vs Godox V860ii vs Godox V1? In this video, I review the V860iii and compare it against the other two, so you know which is right for you!
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Thank you!
Looking to create some flash/off-camera flash content in 2022. What questions do you have? What do you want to learn/see?
I would like a solid mobile kit for doing portraits outside with kids. We go to a bunch of parks and historic areas, and I have been trying to find the smallest, easiest kit, that gives good fill lighting while properly exposing the background, that I want in the photo in the first place. Small enough to be easy, but strong enough to work outside...is the tough part. Side note, I feel like the battery didn't need to upgrade, I feel like the battery in the ii was so good.
For me personally the battery sucked for wedding photography. It constantly overheated and now that problem is resolved.
@@Reggiebphoto I belive that, I'd don't do weddings, so that makes sense.
Edit, I do mostly portraits if I'm doing flash, and in that context, I've never had an issue. I do image that in a wedding it gets thumped on more.
Yup for sure
Sorry new to flash here, why does this one say v860iii C and the other one has An F ?
What is the difference between the two?
Excellent comparisons. Thank you for sharing your real world experience and samples with the flashes. Good to hear from a working professional and not just someone pointing out different specs.
Thanks for all of the detailed info and real-world impact of the differences! I'm looking to get my first on-camera flash, and this was super helpful. Cheers!
Thank you for this. This has helped me see which speedlight to go for. V860iii
Great review! Straight to the point, clean audio and honest opinions 👏🏽
Thanks my friend
6:28 - just wanna say this sold it for me. Despite me being a Sony user your video was the only one that I’ve seen so far to actually show how the shape of the beam is different on a blank surface rather than always on a person / subject. I saw that Magmod2 is out for V1 users at the same price - initially like your video at the time of it posted, the fact that magmod didn’t have accessories for V1 made me lean to the 680iii.
Thank you for your awesome comparison video, I really liked it and helped me a lot 🥰
The only review that covers also the form of the light bulb as well as the modifier differences. Which are the most important differences in my opinion. Well made!
Def the most important differences
Very helpful and easy to understand, thanks!
Thanks for the statement about the functionallity of the round head and modifiers. Been trying to decide and that helps me go for the 860iii
Thanks for recommending this video to me! Very helpful.
Glad you found it!
Thank for your honest review. 🙌🏻
Reggie: Very comprehensive and all-inclusive review and comparison. I don't use Fuji, I'm a Nikon shooter, but I believe much of your info is agnostic enough that other brand users will gain valuable information.
Yup. All this info is brand agnostic
Hey Reggie, nice comparison video!
Godox also sells the S-R1 adapter that allows you to use the AK-R1 accessories on a flathead speedlights like the v860ii(i)
Oh nice!
Your tip about the magmod modifiers sold me on the V1 vs the 860iii. I hate buying products then needing to buy accessories just as expensive. Currently rocking the Godox TT350 and AD200 but looking for a better on camera flash
Dope
Godox V1 is the best choice simply being the modelling light. MAGmod can still fit on the V1 Flash and doesnt affect the magnet alignments whatsoever..
Thanks for the comparison's I'm looking for a flash for doing off camera and macro photography. Your video really helped me to make a decision. Especially your comment about make accessories fit. Thanks
Great!! What did you choose? Looking for a on camera macro photography. Any suggestion please?
@@Vicky-il5yv I purchased the following on Amazon, Godox V860II-N Flash for Nikon Camera Flash Speedlite Speedlight I-TTL GN60 2.4G HSS 1/8000s Li-ion Battery & Godox XPro-N Wireless Flash Trigger Transmitter for Nikon Cameras w/Color Filters. I got the xpro so I can use the flash off camera. I shoot a Nikon D850. I've also bought a Nikon SB-400 for its small size. Hope this helps. Good Luck.
@@clydew2357 Thanks 🙂!! What diffuser you use for macro photography. I'll be doing macro mostly on camera.
I just bout the Flashpoint LI-on iii R2 TTL for Cyber Monday for 139.00. THANKS for all of your work
I was after a second v ii but can only buy the iii, job done.
great vid!!
I've been with the tt350f and I want to upgrade to either the V1 or 860III. Thanks for the comparison and it was very helpful. I'll probably go with the 860II.
I’d recommend the iii over the ii
Godox 860 iii plastic is broken if you try to attach it over sony camera, i have to repair break plastic,
Dang, you're making a great case for the V869iii...
Thanks. I need to replace my 2 x V860ii flashes, as they are both misfiring and becoming unreliable. I have a V1, and like it, but due to loving my MagMod modifiers, I will go with the new V860iii. Your video helped me to make this decision, thanks :)
Awesome, thank you :)
I am not sure how you want me to contact you. is that an email address?
Salamat broski sa info. benta ko ad400pro ko tas bibili ako tatlong v860iii. wooohooo
Great insight, thanks for the info! I always assumed the v1 is 'better' she produces a nicer quality of light with it's round head.
But since I'm mostly bouncing light at the minute it really does not matter...
Cheers!
The v860iii has the modeling light shooting straight on, because it’s better for low light events to assist the camera in attaining focus quickly, giving the photographer the ability to still bounce the light. The v1 can’t do that unless you point the flash directly at the subject.
That’s why the 860iii is the perfect low light event flash!!!
That isn’t a modeling light then. It’s an af assist light
@@Reggiebphoto exactly! I think the wording is incorrect, either way what a great innovation for event photographers in crappy low light like I see at a lot of my events.
For events, I prefer to not use a light shining on my camera so I can keep the moments a bit more candid but yes I can see how it could be immensely helpful. Great to have that option
@@Reggiebphoto so what's the modeling light do then?
A modeling lamp’s function is to MODEL the shape and direction of a flash. It’s a way for a photographer to preview the lighting of a strobe/flash without having to constantly pop the flash
Hi Reggie. I often get a clear light shadow bar on each and every picture depending on what side I use on my Godox V860iii. It fails to give a full light spread, like a straight vingette but on one side only. I have used 1/1 full flash in manual mode and I use 50 zoom mode with of my 50 mm lens. Latest photos with this issue had a shutter speed of 80 and f.4.0, iso 400 on a canon 5dsr, so clearly not a sync problem. Could it be resolved with a firm ware update?
It is interesting that the switch hot-shoe-lock is so new to godox... My old Canon speedlite from 2010 had that lock-system. I just assumed that was the industry standard already back then. 😅
Awesome video! Will this sync, mount on a Nikon d40? Thx
Can you run a cable from the camera hot-shoe to this flash, so it can be positioned as a model light AND still acts as a trigger for a second flash?
Ty 👍☕️
Good morning and thanks for the very clear video ... The most important thing is to know if the "Focus Assist Lamp" of this Godox 860iii works WELL on the Sony A7IV camera Thank you very much
I haven’t tried it on the A7iv
Great Review.. what do you use to mount your Action Camera for BTS. I tried doing it with my chest harness but it was no goo video clips
Nice comparison Reggie :) I will go for the V1. BTW, do you have any video showing how to achieve that lighting effect on 6:38 ? Thanks :)
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Still getting it filled in haha.
do u know if the 860ii should act as the master control so I would need to use my XS pro trigger? can it control more than just group a and b?
Hi reggie, i hope you make a new tutorial on how to use flashes (IN-DEPTH). I see a lot of people using flashes but few of them can pull-off great looks like you do. Only a few of you guys here in RUclips can do it.
Have you seen my in depth tutorial?
Good point..I also don't like the round head so much that I would spend 70 euros more...great review,thank you!
Totally
I’m new to your channel thank you for your tips and information I shoot Sony but I still like your channel great information great views from a professional you make it easy to understand sending you positive energy
Thank Mark!
thank youu
Hi Reggie, I got the V860iii for the my XT3 but it's not working great. The mode is changing by itself even if I lock the settings. did you experience this with your unit?
The feature of using the flash only as a controller and turn off the flash, is that a feature only for the 860iii and not the 860ii? Or can I do that for the 860ii too?
Can 860iii master slave 860ii and vice versa? Or do all of them have to be the same model for it to work?
I have a Nikon Z6ii: would this flash work perfectly fine without buying the wireless flash transmitter mounted on my camera ?
The Godox V860iii is not compatible with the settings of in camera body flash control available with newer Sony camera like A7IV, A7RV. The settings called “external flash settings “ under flash settings in these cameras is greyed out when V860iii is attached on hot shoe or connected as off camera flash. Can a firmware update to V860iii be a solution to make it compatible with a very useful function within camera body to use the Godox flash to its fullest potential like the Sony Flashes? Kindly reply
i just want the flash on top of my 80d and just take pictures with no problem.
Here in Sweden you can buy V860II for 159 $ and V860III for 274 $, almost half the price. I have had the V860II for 3 years, and I have never had any problems, neither with it getting overheated or the battery running out or the hotshoe breaking. So so far it is not worth an upgrade.
Thanks for the comment
I could enjoy the 860 III more, if they would ship me one. On backorder for 5 months.
Can we use the modeling light as an actual light?
Upgraded to XT5 from xt30v1 selling my old gear and some old lenses i don't use anymore getting a second ad200pro and considering selling 860ii to change to 860iii or v1 and still can not decide. I usually use it for club photography or as off camera flash as a hair highlight along with my ad200 as main light. Thoughts ?
i share the decision factors in the video
Does Godox V1 recycle just as fast as 860iii? Thank you.
Do u think the Godox v1 flash output is more accurate than v860 iii?
Been a big fan! And you just made my decision. I used your techniques twice already! I just ordered the 860viii. Do you still use two ad200 during your weddings and have you added any other off camera?
Yup, check it out!
@@Reggiebphoto by the way, have you done a video on editing your wedding workflow?? How to do it more efficiently....
Hi @Reggie Ballesteros would you know if these are all fully compatible with GFX50R? Many thanks
Yup they should be
Between 2 Gdx V860iii's with 2 extra batteries VS 1 ad300pro +1 xtra battery?
For wedding ceremony (indoor) and prewedding (outdoor)
I already have 1 TT600
What is your recommendation sir?
Thank you!
How are you getting that over-the-shoulder video footage? That is so cool and a great teaching tool for you to show us.
A GoPro :)
@@Reggiebphoto What is it mounted to if you don't mind?
It's much better that the "modeling lamp" is facing forward. This way if your mirrorless camera can't focus due to super dark lighting conditions you can turn that on so the camera can lock focus. If you're bouncing the flash and the light was on the head then it wouldn't work as a good focus assist beam.
that would be an af assist lamp, not a modeling lamo. all I'm trying to say is let's define the actual function of the light to be accurate to what it is designed for.
@@Reggiebphoto he's right. That's what this modeling lamp is for. Mirrorless cameras can't see the AF assist beam, so they implemented the LED modeling lamp.
Yup so call it that then. Is what I’m saying.
Yes, you are right. I don't see it as a modeling lamp at all. It's to assist while focusing. If it were intended as a modeling lamp it would be located as close as possible to the flash tube. Also it would have to follow the illumination angle. Useless otherwise. Just my opinion ion of course.
Hi! Thanks for sharing your review. I got v1 one with ak r1. I need setup lighting for weddings i need backup speedlight is ll. Jusn i need to know are u using ad200 pro or just ad200 . Thanks
I use both. They are essentially the same thing.
I‘m landscape photographer and have hardly ever used flashes. Now I’m going to buy one and can’t decide between the V1 and 860iii. For the portraits I usually use the 200mm focal distance, if I take a group photo I often use 20mm. For this reason I think the 860iii would be a better choice for me, am I wrong? On the other hand, if I‘m going to use my new flash mainly remotely, the restricted (28-105mm only) range of the V1 doesn’t matter much, does it?
Both flashes will do fine. Just matters on the features as I shared in this video
Do the improvements over the V860ii warrant a $50 increase? maybe for the improved UX alone but I dont see myself turning in my V860ii just to upgrade to the Viii
That’s up to you decide. Is more battery life (more flash pops), better overheating performance, and an improved UI warrant a $50 increase? That’s up to the consumer to decide, not me lol.
Can the V860II’s modelling light be kept on continuously as a de facto video light?
Yup
Thanks for the video! Very useful! I was curious if anyone knew whether Godox made an adapter for the V860 to fit V1 accessories. My guess would be no since that would cannibalize sales, but worth asking.
Thanks :)
Godox sells the SR1 adapter for their rectangular flash heads that allows you use the v1 accesories
What’s the advantage of using V860 flashes vs. V1? Does the MagMod flash modifiers work on this flash? Mahalo.
I share all the pros and cons in the video toward the end.
There is an adapter for the v860 for the round head magnetic accesorires
Hi Reggie, how do you find focusing with the godox in super low light with the xt3s? I had a string of weddings with really dark dance venues and had to zone focus the majority of time. I used to use canon speed lights with the infra red focusing grid and never missed a shot even in almost pitch black. Any tips : )
I never use the af assist on any of my Godox flashes. Works fine for me on the xt3.
I also wanted to know.
As i mentioned to the first comment, i don’t use the af assist beam so i can’t comment on it’s performance. The af assist beam doesn’t work with my cameras.
Generally flash AF-assist doesn't work with mirrorless cameras.
When it comes to replace batteries, how difficult or easy is it to find replacements? Thank you.
I’ve never had to replace them before
Doesnt it get complicated having 4 flashes all around?
Remembering what is what letter and then trying to get them all to a decent exposure.
In events many times I only get one shot at important moments.. And sometimes just one flash gets complicated because of cealing variations, or ambient colors, etc...
I can imagine using them so increase the over all ambient lighting and not having to bump up my ISO to balance the lighting in the entire room.
But I would be a bit wary of shooting them towards the crowd. I don't know.
How do you do it? Any videos explaining it?
The Godox TT600 swivels 180 degrees left and right.
I saw you taped the “warm” clear film on the v860iii… did it come with the flash? Lol I know it’s a silly question but I may need to tape mine on too & that’s the perfect color!
no i bought a sheet of 1/2 cto gel
Hey would you recommend the V1 for wedding photography. I want to get a good flash for my girlfriend and I have the ad 200.
V1 or 860iii depending on her shooting preferences. I spec out what different considerations to make in the video
What's the most powerful at 1/1 please?
Don’t shoot enough in a set to overheat and never had any battery life issues. Is the upgrade worth it from the 860vii? Honestly thinking about getting another Vii now that it’s on sale
That’s up to you to decide. I laid out the facts. Is it worth it?
Hi Reggie, I have a Godox V1 and it seems to be acting up on its own, changing settings on its own when in Manual mode. Like i'll manually set it to 1/2 power, fire a shot or two, and all of a sudden the unit just changes settings. TTL mode seems to work just fine. Have you had this problem before? I'm using an X-T3.
Nope I haven’t had any problems like that
Hi, did you already solved the problem? I'm asking bc I also have an Fuji X-T3 and I'm looking for my first flash and I'm in doubt between v860iii and v1 :/
And now I'm afraid of go for v1!
Thanks!
@@ricardoxvieira I used the locking feature and it solved my problem. I might have been hitting the controls with my nose while shooting. The V1 is a great unit
Great video Reggie. Really valuable info.
I'm thinking about getting the Godox V860iii for studio portraits. (off camera)
And I'm wondering about the quality of light.
Some are saying even in a softbox the light is still harsh.
What are your thoughts.
With a modifier, the lighting is all due to the modifier itself. If the light is too harsh, maybe up the size of your soft box.
@@Reggiebphoto Thanks Reggie for the fast response. That really helps.
Reggie, I have a question for you about the modeling light. For your awesome slow shutter dance party pics, does the modelling light help with acquiring focus?
I’m not sure. I don’t leave it on. It would be distracting to the guests
@@Reggiebphoto Thank you so much! One more question, if you don't mind (and it's totally fair if you do). Do you notice a weight difference between the V860iii and the V1? I checked the "specs" on B&H and it lists the same weight but I find that hard to believe because the V1 looks larger?
Pretty much no difference. The main difference is the head shape and if you plan to use magmods
@@Reggiebphoto Thank you so much! As always, you totally rule!!!
Does the modelling lamp work with Sony. Cause the AF assist is automatically disabled by Sony ( which sucks cause in camera one isn't good ) . That's the only reason why I'd want a modelling lamp . Thx
I don’t know
For nightlife, the modeling lamp on the 860iii serves as focus assistance. Sony cameras are not great at focusing in the dark. Canon speedlight infrared assistant beam is far superior in that regard.
That would be an af assist lamp. A modeling light is designed to model the shape of the light coming from a light just not at full power
@@Reggiebphoto the thing with the godox af assist lamp it blinds everyone, and the yellow ome built in thr camera doesn't seem to help the camera see faster in the dark. I could be wrong or not setting up the camera correctly.
Bullshit Sony’s can’t AF in the dark…
Really curious about the AD200 Pro, do you have any experience with it? I'm thinking about using that for the square head consistency with my magmod gear.
Yup. Check out my latest gear video. (Second most recent video)
If you had the modelling light pointed up it wouldn’t reach your subject in most cases so that would be pointless. Good for straight on flash tho!
The V860iii hot shoe mount will eventually break. Mine broke this past weekend while shooting an event.
They sell replacement mounts. V1 mounts break as well.
i dont know if someone ask, said before but offcamera flash can be used to high speed shot, when u have the flash plugged on camera u cant do that so u still needed trigger.
set the camera to ttl lock
@@Reggiebphoto hmmm 🤔 never tried before, but I will try later thanks man have a nice daay
This is the solution. I showed it in my Godox v1 review video
I think it's a mistake that Godox advertises that light as a modeling light. It should be just called a video light for hybrid users. That way if you happen to shoot both photos and videos you can have one unit on the camera for both purposes. I find the "modeling" light "advantage" of being on the flash head on the V1 useless as such because it is pretty weak to make any difference once you point it away from the subject. Again, it only makes sense if it is used as a video light.
I agree
Hello, is this compatible with the Canon 90D camera? Thank you
If you get the canon version, yes
Shopping for my first external flash for my Canon. I'm leaning towards the 860iii, do I need to buy extra equipment to use this flash off my camera? If so, what equipment needs to purchased??
nope. just make sure you buy the canon specific model
Did you get it? If so, how do you like it? I’m needing to buy one today and don’t know which one to get.
@losochill I did get it. I watched hours of videos on how to use it but never could figure it out. I haven't tried again since December. I still got lots to learn so can't blame the equipment 🙈
What is better to take? New v860 or V1 after repair (replacement of the lamp + defects on the case). Because of this, one price is obtained. And I don’t know if it’s worth the risk buying this from hand?)
Just get a new one
Thanks for such a useful video, Reggie. I ended up going with the v860iii. So far it has been working well for me. The only thing I don’t understand is why I can’t enable the manual flash mode in-camera (I use the X-T3). On the flash’s screen, it does say “M” and I’m able to control the exposure settings. However on my camera screen it stays at TTL and whenever I try to change it to M in the settings, the M is just greyed out. Do you know what is causing this and how to fix it? I’ve tried googling for a solution but it doesn’t seem to be a common issue. Thanks Reggie.
I have the opposite problem I can use it only in manual on the camera like Fuji doesn't recognize it. And if I want to use the ttl mode I need to use with the trigger xpro.
Other than that any hot shoe issues
I have the same problem!!. I am going to send it back, I'm currently looking for something else. Amazon says it's not compatible.
I just noticed that I purchased the V1c instead of the V1F. So I'm sure this is my issue.
I have the canon eos R and this will be my first flash and I have no idea what I’m doing. What one do you suggest for me. Thank you
Do you want to invest to learn flash? Or do you not know? There are even more budget flashes that Godox makes,
Can I use both models together?
I have the 2s but just bought one 3 flash. Can I use them together?
Yup
got this one. but the unit is acting weird. It's changing it's mode on it's own, even if i turn off the TTL 🤣
So overall which one better for pre-wedding and wedding day moment, godox v1 or v860III ?
It ultimately depends on what flash head shape you prefer and if you plan to use attachments. If you have no preference or don’t plan to use the Godox specific attachments, then go with the cheaper option V860iii.
@@Reggiebphoto it's funny that in my country V1 & V860iii have the same price
Why does the V860III have no bounce head?
I've more bad experience with V1 hot-shoe compared to 860 ii hot shoe on Sony A7riv and A7iii
Sorry new to flash here, why does this one say v860iii C and the other one has An F ?
What is the difference between the two?
? The one reviewed has an f. The f is for Fujifilm . C is for canon
@@Reggiebphoto yeah sorry I looked that up, I’ve never shot flash and didn’t know what those stand for! I appreciate your reply! sorry for that dumb question lol
Which flash would you recommend for macro photography?
It ultimately depends on how you will be lighting it. How do you typically light your macro scenes? Off camera or on camera?
@@Reggiebphoto On camera.
@@Reggiebphoto is it going to work well for macro on camera?
wow, o k so I disagree on the placement of the modelling light on the V860iii. For a canon shooter, its perfect for low light situations where the new mirrorless system, doesn't allow AF assist beams from Speedlight's, so in dark clubs etc, this is so handy for assisting in focusing. I don't use direct flash, so putting the lamp inside the flash from facing doesn't work, having it below means whether you front face or bounce the flash, you have the lamp there on the lower end of the body if you need it. I've had to use torches to assist with focusing, thats how bad the R6ii is in low light.
Don’t call it a modeling light then. Call it an af assist beam.
is the V860iii same power as the V1?
basically the same yes, 1 stop better on 860iii
3:15 Seriously? What tiny LED light is going to be so powerful, that it is going to model a bounce strobe light off a ceiling? It makes no sense, to expect that. It's just a tiny video light. For a quick movies while your flash is on your camera.
I own the V860II and the V1... last wedding i broke the V1 hot shoe lock and i didnt even know how i did it.
I have the V1 and the V860iii. The V860iii is a way better flash for so many reasons. The fact that the V1 is round is a joke.
First?
🙌🏽
Gotta say, I left right at 1:30 because... you literally don't have a power comparison for a review video comparing flashes?
Cool. It’s literally listed on the guide numbers. You don’t need a review to tell you those specs
@@Reggiebphoto You think you'd take 10 seconds to mention something as vital as flash power in a video about flashes though.
I apologize that I disrespected you so much because I didn’t take 10 seconds to talk about flash power. Are you ok my friend?
@@Reggiebphoto I see you take criticism of your content really well. I'm sure you've learned a lot about what consumers may find off-putting in your videos or what critical information you may lack. I know you'll take it to heart instead of being butthurt and defensive. I just know it.
Are you ok my friend?