Another dead woman at the hands of their supposedly loved one! Rest In Peace Kelsey. I`m so sorry to the family and may God help this little angel through her life without her mother.
Sad that some are under educated to think that they can get away with this, and so mean to leave their own flesh parentless. Hope the law throws at him the same as in Chris Watts.
@@traceyjoy7554 ...for her entire life. No mother. And her dad on the equivalent of death row. I'm glad she is with the Barreth family, I assume the grandma. It was horrible that police let the baby stay in the custody of a suspected murderer for a month. A defenseless baby. I think kids should have rights in cases like this...before the parent is officially a suspect, she should have been in protective custody because her life is more important than ownership by a parent.
If you're going to accuse people of being undereducated better to first know how to spell and construct sentences properly. In any event, it's not being undereducated that is their downfall, plenty of intelligent and educated people have committed murder, but being arrogant enough to think they can get away with it.
I could feel his rage right through the TV when he was first shown. Yelling, " This is a private road and this is private property". He had no desire to help find her. Cold, callous, self centered, self righteous psycho! Not sure how he was even able to trick someone into making a baby with him but his mask is definitely off now!
I'm so sad I cried I don't even know her but I can't imagine what her mama is going through or her sister or brother or her friends and her beautiful little infant child I hope he rots in hell
Chris A what broke my heart is that baby that she won’t know her mother to be able o touch her to smell cry, it will never happen😢 he had no right to do this to this baby...
Solicitation means premeditation. How sad. She was such a lovely looking woman. So sad for her family. Especially her mother. RIP Kelsey. May justice be served.
I saw that today. ;((( When I worked in the legal field solicitation and conspiracy charges were almost resulted in nearly as much time sentenced as the original crime.
@@ursulaingram1035 We don't know for sure he hired someone but he has certainly solicited someone to kill her at some stage and that person is probably helping with inquiries. The police obviously have a tip off.
How can these men believe that they will ever get away with killing their girlfriends/wives ? It's like they walk around with a *BIG red arrow* pointing at their heads, "saying he did it!" RIP Kelsay. Shanann now has a kindred friend in heaven to talk to.
Just my opinion, Hope Kelsey & Shanann both Rest in peace. What a terrible thing to have in Common.Murdered by your fiancee, or husband. So sad for the families. Hope both these, guys " Share a cell, Rot in Hell" 👏👏😡😡👹👹
Veronica Medina women AND men need to stop looking for the one and rushing into relationships before knowing a person, especially rushing to be intimate and having a child. Wait to get to know the person, check their stories and verify, watch their actions, etc. ... talk to their family and friends, don’t have sex too soon until u know for certain u know the person very well and plan to marry the person. Fantasyland is just that.... people can talk themselves into anything if they want it bad enough. Very sad!
The mentality of these men is beginning to follow a pattern that shows how controlling some men need to feel.Having a child is a gift but they see it as a burden.
If the government gave men a fair chance to keep some of their money. Plus get custody or see the kids on a regular basis. Men wouldn't need to try to do this kinda stuff. Maybe not in this case but many others. Men usually get the short end of the stick.
@@KobeMonster007 what the government... No one should have to tell a man How to take responsibility for their children. My,My, I raised my child by my self. When he found out I was pregnant he didn't want me or her. I did it by my self. Thk God my parents an I learned a valuable lesson from that day. My baby is 40. She Graduated college. An no matter how hard I try. He still doesn't have a speaking relationship with her. He threatened me. But, I had a more important task. Keeping my child an me safe. Never got a dime of child support or welfare assistance. My baby had to drink pet milk mix with water an vitamins. It's hard ladies. Let these guys go. An run like you a Olympics track star.
What hell is going on!? All I hear constantly is men going out of their little minds killing their wife's, girlfriends, even their poor innocent children and annihilating their entire families! When and how is this going to stop?! With this happening I don't even want my daughter to be in a relationship, it's too dangerous..its a god damn death wish. U'd be in constant fear and worry on when will they turn psycho on u and your kids..not worth it!
The hired attorney looked like he was shitting in his pants every time he was interviewed...maybe he ran away after realizing Patrick killed his fiance.
My question was not what solicitation was, I assumed most people know what that it. The bigger question is why??? Why would he do this? By everyone’s account they where a happy couple. I knew them living apart while both engaged with a baby meant something negative.
Ciera Howell why is it almost always men killing women. And a lot of times, getting away with it or getting minimal sentence. Its very much a man's world.
Ciera Howell. The latest news is that she broke off engagement and had a court date set for child custody.. Sad that her family lived so far away that they couldn't be there to know what was going on. Maybe kelsey didn't want to worry them or want any one else involved.
Knowing how Colorado law enforcement and investigators work together to lay out the facts, it will be a short time until her body is discovered and ALL will be brought to justice in this horrible crime. God be with her Mom, Dad, and the whole family!
Wish they'd give out some of the evidence as to why he's finally charged. It was obvious by his behavior that he was guilty from the start. No innocent man does the behavior he did or don't turn then in as missing. It shouldn't take a mother reporting her missing after 10 days.
Sadly, I felt he was behind this when I saw the same cold, soulless eyes when he told reporters to get off his land. I don't think he killed her, but found someone to do it for him....... Law enforcement found texts and had to have solid proof before arresting him. So unbelievably sad that yet another family is left mourning their child and sibling. This beautiful baby girl now has to grow up without her mother. Tears are streaming down my face because I can't imagine how devastated this family is. Thank God they've arrested him; hopefully they'll also find and arrest his accomplice
@michael x Really ? What do you mean when write WM ? If you are going to comment at least have the balls to say what you mean. Do you want to say WHITE MEN ? If so that's very immature you prick.
I don't think the solicitation charge in this case is going to actually be the cliche 'murder for hire' or 'hitman' etc. I bet the solicitation charge is about the phone - Ie: that he paid someone to take Kelsey's phone out of state & to send various msgs etc.
What is wrong with those man I don't get it and it heartbreak knowing there sweet little angel will grow up without her mom and her dad it so sad knowing what happened this beautiful young lady my prayers and thoughts are with the family during this difficult time
Human Behaviorist, Forensic Science, when will people realize you can't get away with crime in this advanced day and age. Crime in America and elsewhere should be extremely minuscule.
Ok, Im from/live in South Carolina, where most of us women are fighters with some of us having a little more red on the neck than others. We don't know enough about this case, but I can assure you, I would (and just about every other woman I know) have turned them tables on Chris Watts real quick! He, and this guy too, are nothing that a baseball bat wouldn't have taken care of!!
@@koolkitties8552 that's the only way he would be able to, while I was asleep! The police would definitely be able to tell I put up one hell of a fight. But you know how cowards are....get you from behind, or in this case, asleep!
@@Nexus-ub4hs I'm not saying I'm smarter, tougher, etc. than any of these women. But, Chris Watts elevator didn't go all the way to the top, if you know what I mean! I'm basically saying, I would fight like hell!! Like I have already said, unless I was sleeping when he made his move.
YES, SOUTHERN WOMEN ARE FIGHTERS EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI....FOR SURE...THE SOUTHERN MEN WOULD NEVER DARE TOUCH THEM...BURNING BED IN MY LOVERS CASE...WE JUST TALK TRASH AND THEY BELIEVE US...RIGHT ON SHONNA....PUSSIES BOTH WATTS AND FRAZEE...
God Bless this family and all family's involved. Can you sit and think that the Man you feel in love with who you had a Child With Could Take Your life. I can't. He didn't Only Kill her He Killed His Side of the family as well. They all haft to grieve a Loss And it's Sad. I pray peace can come into the homes who Lost there Loved one. God Bless.
And this is why it’s important to not just get angry at people like Watts and Frazee but it’s important to understand what happened that allowed this insanity to take place.
They were not even married. To think that your life can be taken by someone you love enough to bring life into the world for. How does love turn to murder? Break up co parent but murder? How is this anything but the act of a crazy person.
Why do human beings actually think the chances of getting away with killing someone are high. Why resort to spending the rest of your life potentially incarcerated unless you are defending yourself.
I wanted to believe she was still out there, alive but I just felt it in my gut that she wasn’t- the entire time she was missing. My thoughts and prayers go out to her family, her baby and all of her loved ones. Hope they find her soon so her family can put her to rest.
What's with some of these judges pulling this 'no cameras' in the courts crazy crap?? What happened to freedom of press,. da-de-da??? It's good for the public to see the court system!!
His crazy followers are already out on RUclips. I said something about him abusing horses and dogs and they came back saying horrible things about the victim, and it was very crude. .
Carol Boyce Yes, he did. He hit a horse in the stomach with a rasp. I am a former horse trainer and it made me sick. I saw it in an article in the daily Mail yesterday. I also read he did the same to dogs. And he was a horse and dog trainer and a farrier for horses. I could have checked with the horse community, but I know people won’t say that unless they saw somebody or know someone that is cruel. It gets around pretty fast to horse owners and lovers. I hope that they take away his animals and get them good loving homes. I knew lots of tough, physically strong cowboys but they would never hurt an animal. I may even check with my old boss and see if he knows anyone in Colorado and see what is happening to the animals. Because I know if it were out out there that the animals were mistreated that we (meaning animal lovers) could get them good loving homes in no time. Sounds like his mother was involved as well. And she owns the ranch. Thanks for the comment, I had someone jump on me for saying this the day before his arrest. And say something so crude about poor Kelsey, his victim. I knew after reading that about the horse, that he had murdered her. People that are cruel to animals will hurt people. I was right. They arrested him 24 hrs. after my comment. I hated it for Kelsey’s mother but I have had to deal with family murder myself. I guess it gives you a sixth sense about people. I began to study psychological behavior and that helped too. I seem to always know when these people kill a loved one. But of course the FBI learned a long time ago that cruelty to animals was a sign of very unstable mental defect. They said he was having an affair with someone from Pampa, Texas too. So there was another clue. It sounds like he and his mother wanted the child he had with her. These men with bad family origins and dysfunction in their family seem to be killing their families right before the holidays. He killed her on Thanksgiving and then before that we had the Chris Watts murders. I am glad most if all both were caught. I hope this guy gets a harsh sentence like Watts did. ☮️💞✝️
Bet ten bucks his mommy has something to do with it too. And, I bet the second person he solicited went to the cops and told so they could get a lighter sentence
AMEN sister.... me too! Never , ever dating again that's a promise. I will not chance a monster in my house . They are ALL monsters I am totally convinced
I restaurant I once worked at catered a lot of parties during the Christmas season and I was frequently a server. One party was for a company that occupied some very luxurious premises and whose employees sparkled as much as the decorations. But I noticed as brought drinks and circulated with hors d'oeuvres that one woman was left almost entirely alone. People gave her a wide berth even in passing. Finally I went over and spoke with her and asked if I could bring her anything. When I brought her the drink asked for, she said, "I noticed that you noticed. Want to know the truth? They've avoided me somewhat since my daughter was kidnapped and killed by a boy she met at her college. Who kept her body for days. It happened over the Christmas holidays a few years ago and so when Christmas comes around each year, they go from somewhat avoiding me to entirely avoiding me. It's as if they think it's contagious." I didn't know what to say, so I asked if she would like to tell me about her daughter. Though she seemed sad, she glowed as she recalled happier times and her child's sweet and funny ways. Her daughter sounded like a wonderful girl and clearly was always in her mother's heart. This woman just needed to be able to talk about her, to say her name, to be the proud mom she still was. I think about her every Christmas. But I think about her deep love and devotion as much as I think about her terrible loss.
The mentality of these men is beginning to follow a pattern that shows how controlling some men need to feel.Having a child is a gift but they see it as a burden..
This poor woman will never raise that poor baby and that sick bastard never thought of that the mother of his child will never remember her mother or looking into her mother eyes.
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Apparently this generation of men weren't taught to think. They assume they are untouchable and can get away with murder. It's too bad that they have murder in their hearts but I'm glad they're dumb enough to leave a motive and trail of evidence behind. I'm assuming that police will be quick to look at husbands and fiancees FIRST now because of the stupidity of these "men."
Wonder if the alltitude is making these people stupid?!,whenever a murder takes place the police will allways look at the people closest to the victim SMH!
Because there are just way too many mental troubled people on this earth to trust that anyone is healthy at this point in time .. so many people are so badly disturbed..
Heart breaking 😕 what kind of people are we creating that could take the life of just anyone. My heart goes out to the family and friends 💙 hugs to you all
When are these men going to figure out that everyone knows it’s likely them when their baby mama/wife/fiancée/ex turn up missing or dead. Only a matter of time until it’s proven.
The difference between him and Chris Watts is that from the outside looking in Chris Watts seemed like a happy, loving husband and father. But looking at this guy Patrick you can immediately see by the look in his eyes what kind of man he is and see that he was probably very controlling and abusive to his fiancee. They're both monsters when it's all said and done though.
First of all he is not showing any kind of emotions!!!!!! This make him suspiciously targeted.. well all we have to do wait until true reveille !!! Am very sad 😢, look at him gave me chill , something in his eyes , cold and careless!!!! Probably he avoid media , because everyone will knows he doesn’t care !!! This happened in Watts case !!!! And the victim mom, show no care about her grandchild !!!! Why ? Because of her religious beliefs, not approved their relation ... it’s sad
Well yea can charge and sentence without body .. and his hired hit man well if smart will spill the beans .. yep all u got to do is ask kill her and follow thru yep think in Idaho or god of rid of her body . RIP sweat lady and my prayers are with her family and thank god Child with her family .. Yep bet they have uncovered deleted messages and calls
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Another dead woman at the hands of their supposedly loved one! Rest In Peace Kelsey. I`m so sorry to the family and may God help this little angel through her life without her mother.
Lu G. What are you saying??
Not a surprise, unfortunately. And, like the family of Shannan Watts, another family will experience a tragic holiday season. So sad.
I have that loser watts call number well now I guess he is the pivot man 😄😂😅
Sad that some are under educated to think that they can get away with this, and so mean to leave their own flesh parentless. Hope the law throws at him the same as in Chris Watts.
Right. He has ruined Thanksgiving and Christmas for his child. Very selfish.
@@traceyjoy7554 ...for her entire life. No mother. And her dad on the equivalent of death row.
I'm glad she is with the Barreth family, I assume the grandma. It was horrible that police let the baby stay in the custody of a suspected murderer for a month. A defenseless baby.
I think kids should have rights in cases like this...before the parent is officially a suspect, she should have been in protective custody because her life is more important than ownership by a parent.
I. M. I 100% agree
If you're going to accuse people of being undereducated better to first know how to spell and construct sentences properly. In any event, it's not being undereducated that is their downfall, plenty of intelligent and educated people have committed murder, but being arrogant enough to think they can get away with it.
@@i.m.7710 Absolutely agree.
I could feel his rage right through the TV when he was first shown. Yelling, " This is a private road and this is private property". He had no desire to help find her. Cold, callous, self centered, self righteous psycho! Not sure how he was even able to trick someone into making a baby with him but his mask is definitely off now!
highwayrockstar1 I agree. That poor child!
No more privacy for this guy
H L I think it’s great he has a public defender and has NO bail!
sociopath.....the 3 Ds...DEVOTE, DEVALUE AND DISCARD.. AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE...
@@simplegirlslifestyle261 ACTING, STAGE LEFT...SHE BOUGHT INTO IT...SAD.
It was always VERY clear that he had something to do with her disappearance. RIP sweet girl. 😞
I'm so sad I cried I don't even know her but I can't imagine what her mama is going through or her sister or brother or her friends and her beautiful little infant child I hope he rots in hell
I totally agree with you. ..
Chris A I cried too. Very sad and I’m 44 year old man
Chris A what broke my heart is that baby that she won’t know her mother to be able o touch her to smell cry, it will never happen😢 he had no right to do this to this baby...
@@ellenfern7380 So true. What a cruel and unnecessary act.
@@kamikazekid94 it's nice to hear a man who actually feels emotional not many in this world
Solicitation means premeditation. How sad. She was such a lovely looking woman. So sad for her family. Especially her mother. RIP Kelsey. May justice be served.
And therefore it had to be premeditated. That's the point I was making. This was no impulsive crime of passion.
I understand what you mean. Definitely premeditated.
How do they know he hired someone to kill her?
I saw that today. ;((( When I worked in the legal field solicitation and conspiracy charges were almost resulted in nearly as much time sentenced as the original crime.
@@ursulaingram1035 We don't know for sure he hired someone but he has certainly solicited someone to kill her at some stage and that person is probably helping with inquiries. The police obviously have a tip off.
How can these men believe that they will ever get away with killing their girlfriends/wives ? It's like they walk around with a *BIG red arrow* pointing at their heads, "saying he did it!" RIP Kelsay. Shanann now has a kindred friend in heaven to talk to.
Just my opinion, Hope Kelsey & Shanann both
Rest in peace. What a terrible thing to have in
Common.Murdered by your fiancee, or husband.
So sad for the families.
Hope both these, guys
" Share a cell, Rot in Hell"
👏👏😡😡👹👹
]Susan Benedisuk At least this crazee Frazee freak spared their child.
I think it shows just how fucking annoying some women are. They kill them knowing probly gonna get caught.
Rebecca Fakeri haha I knew some dummy would take that seriously.
@@lostfound6819 IT WAS A TROPHY KILL...HAVE THE CHILD....KILL THE WOMEN....SOUNDS LIKE HENRY THE EIGHTH...
It's a good sign when your lawyer dumps you. I cannot imagine what he thought to gain if he is guilty.
Judge OvyoursoulvO In a smaller community, his practice would suffer for trying to represent someone so hideous.
Damn, women in Colorado need to watch their men!
Get out
Women everywhere
Anywhere
Veronica Medina women AND men need to stop looking for the one and rushing into relationships before knowing a person, especially rushing to be intimate and having a child. Wait to get to know the person, check their stories and verify, watch their actions, etc. ... talk to their family and friends, don’t have sex too soon until u know for certain u know the person very well and plan to marry the person. Fantasyland is just that.... people can talk themselves into anything if they want it bad enough. Very sad!
@@jessicalt4121 hmmm... Just simple victim blaming? Or projection 🤔 hard to tell thru text...
He wears guilt on his face like a tattoo
Ha I write too sure you can !!
Stay single ladies.
Stop murdering men.
Suicidal Vet is it psychopathy or misogyny?
Yep, sadly so
She was single they was going through a custody battle for the little girl
@@kennybear43 sounds right...………best reasoning ever. her mother sounds strange...no emotion at all...………????????????????
You know, I used to feel bad about being single, but these guys, Chris Watts, Patrick Frazee.
Rated R me too now I’m happy I’m alone n don’t date I’m alive n have my family
I have been married 18 years and trust me you should not get married! Theyre all assholes.
Why killing her??! Why oh why 🤷
Summer Rose I didn’t know he has a ex gay lover did u
Summer Rose that’s sad he had a beautiful wife well look at it like this he will be meeting bubba the butt master soon
The mentality of these men is beginning to follow a pattern that shows how controlling some men need to feel.Having a child is a gift but they see it as a burden.
That's the dumbest comment I've ever read. I'm sure it has nothing to do with control I bet you it has to do with money
Denise Kinzle and women miss the signs a lot
If the government gave men a fair chance to keep some of their money. Plus get custody or see the kids on a regular basis. Men wouldn't need to try to do this kinda stuff. Maybe not in this case but many others. Men usually get the short end of the stick.
Correct. They're definitely insecure and feel less of a man when paired with an independent or self sufficient woman.
@@KobeMonster007 what the government... No one should have to tell a man
How to take responsibility for their children. My,My, I raised my child by my self. When he found out I was pregnant he didn't want me or her. I did it by my self. Thk God my parents an I learned a valuable lesson from that day. My baby is 40. She Graduated college. An no matter how hard I try. He still doesn't have a speaking relationship with her. He threatened me. But, I had a more important task. Keeping my child an me safe. Never got a dime of child support or welfare assistance. My baby had to drink pet milk mix with water an vitamins. It's hard ladies. Let these guys go. An run like you a Olympics track star.
My God another beautiful young mother slaughtered by a partner. This just horrific.
What hell is going on!? All I hear constantly is men going out of their little minds killing their wife's, girlfriends, even their poor innocent children and annihilating their entire families! When and how is this going to stop?! With this happening I don't even want my daughter to be in a relationship, it's too dangerous..its a god damn death wish. U'd be in constant fear and worry on when will they turn psycho on u and your kids..not worth it!
He has a public defender? I wonder what happened to the attorney he hired before he was arrested?
At 300 dollars an hour he can't afford him anymore.
BlueMohn. Probably had no experience in criminal law and the prosecutor didn't want grounds for appeal.
New he was on a LOSER
BlueMohn I think it’s funny he has a public defender and not some great attorney!
The hired attorney looked like he was shitting in his pants every time he was interviewed...maybe he ran away after realizing Patrick killed his fiance.
My question was not what solicitation was, I assumed most people know what that it. The bigger question is why??? Why would he do this? By everyone’s account they where a happy couple. I knew them living apart while both engaged with a baby meant something negative.
Ciera Howell why is it almost always men killing women. And a lot of times, getting away with it or getting minimal sentence. Its very much a man's world.
Ciera Howell. The latest news is that she broke off engagement and had a court date set for child custody.. Sad that her family lived so far away that they couldn't be there to know what was going on. Maybe kelsey didn't want to worry them or want any one else involved.
SOUNDS LIKE A CUSTODY BATTLE WAS A COMING...……………………………….
Knowing how Colorado law enforcement and investigators work together to lay out the facts, it will be a short time until her body is discovered and ALL will be brought to justice in this horrible crime. God be with her Mom, Dad, and the whole family!
Wish they'd give out some of the evidence as to why he's finally charged. It was obvious by his behavior that he was guilty from the start. No innocent man does the behavior he did or don't turn then in as missing. It shouldn't take a mother reporting her missing after 10 days.
Sadly, I felt he was behind this when I saw the same cold, soulless eyes when he told reporters to get off his land. I don't think he killed her, but found someone to do it for him....... Law enforcement found texts and had to have solid proof before arresting him. So unbelievably sad that yet another family is left mourning their child and sibling. This beautiful baby girl now has to grow up without her mother. Tears are streaming down my face because I can't imagine how devastated this family is. Thank God they've arrested him; hopefully they'll also find and arrest his accomplice
HOW do people STILL think they can get away with this shit? It's baffling...
Looks like Patrick Frazee ISN'T having the time of his life!! 😢🤐😪
No he is going to ‘do’ the time of his life - sentence.
Haha.
@michael x
Really ? What do you mean when write WM ? If you are going to comment at least have the balls to say what you mean. Do you want to say WHITE MEN ? If so that's very immature you prick.
I don't think the solicitation charge in this case is going to actually be the cliche 'murder for hire' or 'hitman' etc. I bet the solicitation charge is about the phone - Ie: that he paid someone to take Kelsey's phone out of state & to send various msgs etc.
Yo what’s up with Colorado?
What is wrong with those man I don't get it and it heartbreak knowing there sweet little angel will grow up without her mom and her dad it so sad knowing what happened this beautiful young lady my prayers and thoughts are with the family during this difficult time
Why?? Because NK needed a new man!
DUH. No surprise here. Prayers for her precious Baby. And her Family. May the authorities find her so she may Rest in Peace.🙏😢
How come Chris Watts' case was reported in detail from the get go, but in this one they are so secretive?
He didn't cooperate he got an attorney right away and he didn't go on TV.
I'm glad everything is under the belt. You don't want a mistrial later on down the road.
Because the watts case was a psyop...Wake up !!
They’re still investigating. It’ll take a few months for everything to come out.
It wasn’t really until after sentencing, when the discovery report was issued. Plus more key witnesses it would seem.
Why do local tv news stations always use the term "team coverage" whereas CNN or MSNBC do not?
It's always the Boyfriend or spouse
RANDOM RARELY WORKS ANYMORE...THE MOLLY TIBBETS CASE..JUST SAID THAT THE FAMILY WAS HELPING THE MURDERERS FRIEND OUT..CONNECTION.
People - 👍 doesn’t mean you like the story- it means you appreciate the channel for posting it!
Human Behaviorist, Forensic Science, when will people realize you can't get away with crime in this advanced day and age. Crime in America and elsewhere should be extremely minuscule.
Vivian Pough These types think they are smarter than the rest
Nexus: That's true, a delusion of self importance and think they can outwit the police and others.
Does anyone know if they're televising the trial? I hope so
Is there something in the water
Ok, Im from/live in South Carolina, where most of us women are fighters with some of us having a little more red on the neck than others. We don't know enough about this case, but I can assure you, I would (and just about every other woman I know) have turned them tables on Chris Watts real quick! He, and this guy too, are nothing that a baseball bat wouldn't have taken care of!!
Yeah ok but what if he surprised you or strangled you in your sleep like Watts did to his wife and kids?
@@koolkitties8552 that's the only way he would be able to, while I was asleep! The police would definitely be able to tell I put up one hell of a fight. But you know how cowards are....get you from behind, or in this case, asleep!
Don’t make the mistake in thinking you are tougher, smarter, more streetwise than the women this happens to. Pride before the fall.
@@Nexus-ub4hs I'm not saying I'm smarter, tougher, etc. than any of these women. But, Chris Watts elevator didn't go all the way to the top, if you know what I mean!
I'm basically saying, I would fight like hell!! Like I have already said, unless I was sleeping when he made his move.
YES, SOUTHERN WOMEN ARE FIGHTERS EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI....FOR SURE...THE SOUTHERN MEN WOULD NEVER DARE TOUCH THEM...BURNING BED IN MY LOVERS CASE...WE JUST TALK TRASH AND THEY BELIEVE US...RIGHT ON SHONNA....PUSSIES BOTH WATTS AND FRAZEE...
Im watching this and looked over to see my bf playing with his pocket knife... This whole effing world is giving me anxiety!
I think we know what "soliciting murder" means....
Matt tell us why you’re standing in front of the Thunderbird Inn! I love it!
Chris Watts new cellmate
Murder for hire, they must know who the person is he hired to do it.. I knew he did it. Sick men out here.
What is in the water in Colorado? Remind me never to move there.
God Bless this family and all family's involved. Can you sit and think that the Man you feel in love with who you had a Child With Could Take Your life. I can't. He didn't Only Kill her He Killed His Side of the family as well. They all haft to grieve a Loss And it's Sad. I pray peace can come into the homes who Lost there Loved one. God Bless.
And this is why it’s important to not just get angry at people like Watts and Frazee but it’s important to understand what happened that allowed this insanity to take place.
114 years of charges... That's totally bonkers...Who are these people controlled by?
Easy to BLAME the MAN 🤷🏻♂️ 👍 if u Like
Wait public defender? How? Did you see his house and land plus he had high paid attorneys before he was arrested.
question: where is their child?
In protective custody - they said in the press conference
@@thedrugthatkilled inprotective custody un jail him too?
In protective custody. Will be reunited with Kelsey’s family.
She is with the her mother's family now - Another news clip reported
La Grams women do bad things as well so don’t generalize about men!
They were not even married. To think that your life can be taken by someone you love enough to bring life into the world for. How does love turn to murder? Break up co parent but murder? How is this anything but the act of a crazy person.
Great 👍🏼 coverage..... thanks!
Another devil.
Why do human beings actually think the chances of getting away with killing someone are high. Why resort to spending the rest of your life potentially incarcerated unless you are defending yourself.
What’s in the water out there? Maybe it’s the lack of oxygen.
I wanted to believe she was still out there, alive but I just felt it in my gut that she wasn’t- the entire time she was missing. My thoughts and prayers go out to her family, her baby and all of her loved ones. Hope they find her soon so her family can put her to rest.
Just why?
What's with some of these judges pulling this 'no cameras' in the courts crazy crap?? What happened to freedom of press,. da-de-da??? It's good for the public to see the court system!!
His crazy followers are already out on RUclips. I said something about him abusing horses and dogs and they came back saying horrible things about the victim, and it was very crude. .
Foxibot. Did he abuse animals? I must have missed that somewhere...didn't hear it.
Carol Boyce Yes, he did. He hit a horse in the stomach with a rasp. I am a former horse trainer and it made me sick. I saw it in an article in the daily Mail yesterday. I also read he did the same to dogs. And he was a horse and dog trainer and a farrier for horses. I could have checked with the horse community, but I know people won’t say that unless they saw somebody or know someone that is cruel. It gets around pretty fast to horse owners and lovers. I hope that they take away his animals and get them good loving homes. I knew lots of tough, physically strong cowboys but they would never hurt an animal. I may even check with my old boss and see if he knows anyone in Colorado and see what is happening to the animals. Because I know if it were out out there that the animals were mistreated that we (meaning animal lovers) could get them good loving homes in no time. Sounds like his mother was involved as well. And she owns the ranch. Thanks for the comment, I had someone jump on me for saying this the day before his arrest. And say something so crude about poor Kelsey, his victim. I knew after reading that about the horse, that he had murdered her. People that are cruel to animals will hurt people. I was right. They arrested him 24 hrs. after my comment. I hated it for Kelsey’s mother but I have had to deal with family murder myself. I guess it gives you a sixth sense about people. I began to study psychological behavior and that helped too. I seem to always know when these people kill a loved one. But of course the FBI learned a long time ago that cruelty to animals was a sign of very unstable mental defect. They said he was having an affair with someone from Pampa, Texas too. So there was another clue. It sounds like he and his mother wanted the child he had with her. These men with bad family origins and dysfunction in their family seem to be killing their families right before the holidays. He killed her on Thanksgiving and then before that we had the Chris Watts murders. I am glad most if all both were caught. I hope this guy gets a harsh sentence like Watts did. ☮️💞✝️
The Colorado police and TBI have had their hands full lately. This sicko and Chris Watts need to be in the same prison cell!
Bet ten bucks his mommy has something to do with it too. And, I bet the second person he solicited went to the cops and told so they could get a lighter sentence
That's it. I'm staying single.
AMEN sister.... me too! Never , ever dating again that's a promise. I will not chance a monster in my house . They are ALL monsters I am totally convinced
I restaurant I once worked at catered a lot of parties during the Christmas season and I was frequently a server. One party was for a company that occupied some very luxurious premises and whose employees sparkled as much as the decorations. But I noticed as brought drinks and circulated with hors d'oeuvres that one woman was left almost entirely alone. People gave her a wide berth even in passing. Finally I went over and spoke with her and asked if I could bring her anything. When I brought her the drink asked for, she said, "I noticed that you noticed. Want to know the truth? They've avoided me somewhat since my daughter was kidnapped and killed by a boy she met at her college. Who kept her body for days. It happened over the Christmas holidays a few years ago and so when Christmas comes around each year, they go from somewhat avoiding me to entirely avoiding me. It's as if they think it's contagious." I didn't know what to say, so I asked if she would like to tell me about her daughter. Though she seemed sad, she glowed as she recalled happier times and her child's sweet and funny ways. Her daughter sounded like a wonderful girl and clearly was always in her mother's heart. This woman just needed to be able to talk about her, to say her name, to be the proud mom she still was. I think about her every Christmas. But I think about her deep love and devotion as much as I think about her terrible loss.
Does anyone know the motive? Was she leaving him? Was he leaving her? Fight over custody of their child?
The mentality of these men is beginning to follow a pattern that shows how controlling some men need to feel.Having a child is a gift but they see it as a burden..
More like his mommy and him wanted just the baby.
Smh, becoming something to seriously be alarmed about
Where is the child
Peggy. Children's services took her and kelsey's family now has her.
This poor woman will never raise that poor baby and that sick bastard never thought of that the mother of his child will never remember her mother or looking into her mother eyes.
Apparently this generation of men weren't taught to think. They assume they are untouchable and can get away with murder. It's too bad that they have murder in their hearts but I'm glad they're dumb enough to leave a motive and trail of evidence behind. I'm assuming that police will be quick to look at husbands and fiancees FIRST now because of the stupidity of these "men."
Oh no!!! Another tragic and devastating case!
Wonder if the alltitude is making these people stupid?!,whenever a murder takes place the police will allways look at the people closest to the victim SMH!
If she was buried under his property, I think they would have found her by now.
so they can arrest this guy but not Dale Smith for Michelle Parker's disapperance?
No body? What if she is still alive?
What he want? be free talk, no attachment dont have children. You have a daughter paid child support go on with your life why kill ?
It's misanthropy. He probably didn't want baby (or marriage) but she wanted it
Yes !!!✌
Because there are just way too many mental troubled people on this earth to trust that anyone is healthy at this point in time .. so many people are so badly disturbed..
Were they having marital problems?
His haircut alone is criminal.
LOL, That's what I'm thinking.
Hmmmm, what’s going on with the men in Colorado lately? I don’t get it, why not just walk away?
My family knows to look at my husband first if I go missing or die mysteriously. I love him, but I’m not naive.
Heart breaking 😕 what kind of people are we creating that could take the life of just anyone. My heart goes out to the family and friends 💙 hugs to you all
Why?? As if any answer will be justified. Poor baby...dead mom caused by dad
Something in the water
Why no separaton? if you don't love a person tell them,divorce,run away but don't kill or send someone to do the job we are not Muslim we have laws
What does being a muslim gotta do with this? 🤦🏻♀️
@@paradise5029 ignorance.
Just another trumpanzee with a xenophobic comment
Whats wrong with Muslim we have laws too
@@mariamsanae8404 Yeah but your men treat woman like crap and that sharia law is barbaric.
When are these men going to figure out that everyone knows it’s likely them when their baby mama/wife/fiancée/ex turn up missing or dead. Only a matter of time until it’s proven.
RANDOM NEVER WORKS...EVEN THE MOLLY TIBBETS CASE..THE MURDERER KNEW THE BROTHER/MOLLY THRU A WORKING FRIEND..
Is it too much marijuana or too little in that state??
i look deep into these killers eyes and i see darkness and no light.
What the hell is wrong with men if you don’t want to be with someone just leave don’t kill them
SELL HIS PROPERTY TO PAY FOR HIS ATTORNEYS AND COURT COSTS!!!
Here we go again. Ladies - DO NOT GO TO COLORADO. It's always family members.
Exposing Liars. If we're to agree w/ this reasoning, where r women supposed to go?
The demons are coming out.
Why in the h...? I don't understand the Mentality or lack of with these soulless pieces of crap that kill. 😐
My god what is going on with men's if you dont want her than let her go! walk away and continue supporting your kids.
I bet it was a horrific crime with someone else involved.
We don't have these sick event's in europe..must be the cursed stolenland
...about time!!!
The difference between him and Chris Watts is that from the outside looking in Chris Watts seemed like a happy, loving husband and father. But looking at this guy Patrick you can immediately see by the look in his eyes what kind of man he is and see that he was probably very controlling and abusive to his fiancee. They're both monsters when it's all said and done though.
Andi in Texas Chris looked miserable and had a fake smile.
Some are venemously crazy but is are agencies trying out their bio weapon in these areas ???? Its a stretch but am wondering ?
First of all he is not showing any kind of emotions!!!!!! This make him suspiciously targeted.. well all we have to do wait until true reveille !!! Am very sad 😢, look at him gave me chill , something in his eyes , cold and careless!!!! Probably he avoid media , because everyone will knows he doesn’t care !!! This happened in Watts case !!!! And the victim mom, show no care about her grandchild !!!! Why ? Because of her religious beliefs, not approved their relation ... it’s sad
Well yea can charge and sentence without body .. and his hired hit man well if smart will spill the beans .. yep all u got to do is ask kill her and follow thru yep think in Idaho or god of rid of her body . RIP sweat lady and my prayers are with her family and thank god Child with her family .. Yep bet they have uncovered deleted messages and calls
This man is pathetic for murdering his wife.
They weren't married