Finally, we've got an NC for the channel
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- Опубликовано: 14 янв 2024
- Today we go over Matt's new daily driver! We have always liked the NC Miata and now we finally have one for the channel!
Current Modifications to the NC:
- MeisterR ClubRace Coilovers
- Racing Beat Front Sway Bar
- Resonator Delete on the OEM Mid-Pipe
- GWR Super-Q Axle Back
- 17x9 +45 Enkei RPF1s
- 225/45 BFGoodrich g-Force Rival S
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The NC is finally getting its due! Great Miata!
I never understood why everyone thinks the nc is ugly. It looks absolutely killer with a hardtop. An NC in blazing yellow mica or splash green would be choice!
nc1 is ugly
Agreed. Especially lowered with some wheels
because nc1. 2 and 3 look great
I agree! And I think @TiyamatFTL is correct, NC1 design left room for improvement in the front end...
My NC2 PRHT SE is the best car I’ve owned from handling and feel perspectives. And it looks great too! Best Miata suspension, best engine from factory (no direct injection), best transmission, and the limited slip is strong enough to throw gobs of power at it.
I like NC the most among the other gens. Congrat!!!!
RPF1 wheels are the only choice.
2 lbs lighter than stock when you get a wider wheel at 8”, although this video highlights the even wider 9”.
Not to mention the strength of them. Used in racing for many years, these hold up to abuse like no others.
And then there’s availability. These are everywhere.
The 2.5L Mazda 6 engine with some cams, tune, stock NC intake manifold, a header, and a baffled pan has done 9000 track miles over the years and approximately 30k street miles on the same setup.
I really would love to have this setup in a RX8. I still have my AP2 FOR DBW (UK) car and a C5 Z06.
Awesome!
That sounds awesome, would love to check out how that works in an RX8, or ND
Have a 2014 PRHT Club since 7/17 Three years daily 122 miles round trip to work, most easy to live with as a daily of any MX5. It replaced 2003 NB difference is night and day, comfort wise. Recently had the flapper valves replace in the drain tubes that drains rain water from top it made the car a lot more quiet and when I go by a foul smelling spot like a sewage plant if I close the windows there is zero smell coming into the car unlike before. It is bone stock and it is fine for me. Put 60,000 plus miles on it only repair was evaporator fan and one sun visor.
I have a 2011 kendo nc2, 44,000 miles, witch I love, I'm seriously considering a bbr 200 upgrade, it's around £2,500 in the uk, but will bring it up to just over 200 bhp, which is where I think it should be, and keeping everything else so it's still naturally aspirated... john
Finally! Idk what your budget is with this thing, but you can put a 2.3 crank in a 2.5 block and make a 2.4 that spins decently high and has more torque than the 2.0. Esslinger Engineering, Fab 9, and Dynotronics are three shops that come to mind that are making awesome NC parts these days. Kinsler is releasing an ITB setup too.
Good to know! I would say budget wise, I wouldn't want to go much more than what a stock clean S2K (already in around $14k with this) would cost in todays market. But if we are talking about being able to buy a built engine and drop it in, that sounds intriguing.
The 2.4 would cost under 5 grand. It really is the best buck. Or just 2.5 with cams. It just won't Rev. I'm building a boosted nc right now
Perfect wheel set up for the nc. Rpf1s just match with everything.
You can't go wrong!
I love it. I've recently converted over to the cult of NC ownership, after having owned 3 NBs. I'll always love the NB generation, but I'll never not own an NC now. Excited to see more NC content.
How does it compare to the NB? Less NVH? I'm looking at doing the same in the future!
@PyroPlays Somehow RUclips didn't notify me of your reply, but if you're still curious, the NC is an improvement over the NB in just about every conceivable way. The NC feels like a Miata for an actual adult, and the NB feels like a 90s rattletrap for boy racers. Again, I've owned 3 NBs, including an MSM, and I love the visuals and styling of the NB, but the NC is just better in every way to me. They don't look as goofy in person (except for the NC1 - that still looks like a soap bar), and looks especially good once you lower it a bit with good fitting wheels.
@@redheadmetalhead247 thanks for the insight! I currently have a UK spec NB1 with aero pack which is my favourite NB, sadly it just doesn't quite work with my life currently, I'm really hoping an NC will be everything I need. Your opinion aligns with what I've generally heard so I'm hopeful! Thank you and enjoy your NC 😎
We need NC vs S2000 comparison!!! Just like you did with the NB. Would be awesome 😎
There will be many comparisons to come!
@@TheSlipAngle fantastic! Can't wait for them 👍
i got an nc 25 anniversary, fully forged, BBR stage 3 turbo set up, 300+bhp, Ohlins coil overs and enkie RPF1 9x17. Best fun car i've ever owned and i've owned twin turbo supra and R31/32/33/34 nissan skylines. So... go turbo or supercharged!!!!!
awesome and looking forward as I plan my build.... gonna do a V6 swap for mine.
Love the wheels, just perfect. The K swop option would be awsome.
Great to see an NC on the channel. My heart will always be with the NA but with just a few tweaks from factory the NC is easily the best handling Miata, which I think ties in to Quinn's comments on the RX-8. Just feels so nicely balanced, and more steering feedback than the ND. BBR's ITB version feels pretty healthy so that'd be one option for sure. I can see myself picking up an NC as my next daily as you go through this series...
100%! It makes such a great daily if you don't mind a little less room!
Hello from Maine! I had a black 2012 PRHT GT with the Suspenion Pack, and loved that car (aside from black being near impossible to keep clean!). The PRHT is a better top than the ND's Targa, in-my-opinion: it offers a secure cabin and also a true open-air experience. Congrats, Matt!
Hey there Maniac! I agree about the top, the RF is cool but I think the PRHT is better even if the car is a little heavier. I plan on driving this up through Maine this summer, I vacation in Rangeley every year.
@@TheSlipAngle "MAINEiac" - Retired 101MXS, literally. Small world! Rangeley is where I work (when I'm there). Would be fun to catch up! Maybe I'll have the new LS3 NA sorted by then...
NC2 is very nice looking indeed! Also, if it ends having close to 200WHP, it will have great handling, agility and acceleration at low speeds.
Lowered i think the NC2 is the best looking, with stock suspension it looks a little goofy.
Probably need head work and high comp pistons for 200whp
no way it needs all that@@scottcolpitts8521
@@scottcolpitts8521
I think BBR in the UK got up to 225hp at the flywheel (195whp therabouts) with cams, ITBs, full exhaust and remap afaik, if they port the head, maybe add big valves, I reckon they can achieve that easily
(Edit: extra mod)
@callumroper7251 2.5 fusion swap is cheaper I would think. And more torque to boot. Not as unique and high revving tho.
So great to see some NC love! I have a 2014 NC PRHT Club and love it. After the mods I've made, I'm really eager to see what great ideas you guys come up with.
Nice!! Time will tell where this thing goes, we are ambitious to get it going!
I am excited for this platform on the channel . I have a 'street car' 2013 Club soft top with a built 2.5 turbo and upgraded drivetrain. I went for torque on the street with long stroke and 7000 rpm redline and a longer final drive. Will be interested to see the contrast with my car in this new build.
Cheers!
I bet that thing is a beast!
I feel excited and happy for you on your "new" NC.
I am planning to get me an NC as well but this iteration is very hard to come by in my neck of the woods. It will be my retirement gift in 4 to 5 years' time. Hope to secure one by then. Not going to do anything crazy to it. Just gonna put a 2" lift kit, swap 215/70 r15s, and change to the quietest exhaust I can find. It's more for countryside driving than doing anything flashy. And have that open top feeling, of course!
Keeping fingers crossed!!!😃
Sick! NC may be the most transformed car ever by just lowering it an putting on a more aggressive wheel.
Agreed! It's a bit disappointing that we couldn't lower it and swap over the OEM wheel at the same time...
@@TheSlipAnglewhy can’t you? I have an NC2, but the only things I’ve done are sway bars and Goodwin SuperQ muffler. Everything else is stock
Welcome to the NC family. I'm not a tiny person. I am more comfortable in the NC. My buddy gave me his dead NC and bought a new ND. I put a new Mazda crate engine in the 2012 NC. It runs 15:24 perfectly. Good luck
Awesome! I have the same car. Black 2013 PRHT Club in stock form. Been thinking of making some changes for some time now. Looking forward to your progress.
A good friend had effectively the same car with the FAB 9 Borg Warner setup, same suspension and wheels. 300whp. Chassis handled it with no problem, it was a bit of weapon!
I’d personally keep it NA with just some cams, etc. Maybe xida’s, the Miesters were just okay imo.
Im a big RPF1 fan. I run them on my NA, NB, and my my NC1.
Nice car!, Nice wheel combo, before you introduced the 17x 9.5 RPF1's, I was about to suggest 18x 9.5 RPF1's in the comments, but you beat me to pressing send. I always liked the look of Goodwin Racing's NC with their 18x9.5 RPF1's, I said to myself if I did an NC, that's what I would do. You guys are great, I don't understand how you guys don't have more subscribers. Looking forward to you future content. Big Fan!
Thank you!
I have the NDRF but the PRHT Club NC is SOOO good looking! Not sure why more people don't like them.
Right?
What a unique club! Black with the black roof. All the ones I have seen have an off roof color which I dont personally care for. I've owned a 2011 prht gt manual since new. I think when I finally pull the trigger on modding it for the first time, I am going for the following oem plus setup:
Flying miata super q exhaust
Flying miata midpipe w/ hemholtz resonator and high flow cat, flying miata catted header, and maybe a mild set of cams. Aiming for 180 crank on 91. Don't k swap. If you do you should have just bought an s2k imo. This is a different experience. Its more fun more of the time. The s2ks are more fun at rpms above 7000, but they are torque less down low. Oh and for all the haters that call the nc miata a boat. S2ks are 300 lbs heavier. If ncs are boats then s2ks are oil tankers.
I'm with quinn on this. As an rx8 guy.. The nc is the best. But genuinely it's also my favorite maybe just on par with the nd2 the nc3 club is just.. Awesome and I defy anyone who has driven all 4 to tell me why outside "oh it's fat or it's too big." is the na is a tin can the nb is a tin can with maybe 15%more comfort. The nc is another league and I got head room. The nd of course is a mile above either and I'm jealous of the front control arm set up... But.. For the money man.. I don't know if you can top an nc3.. Outside the se3p
Well said. ND would have been epic if they kept the NC proportions. Even if it meant a 100 lb weight penalty.
Great wheel choice! I will be adding rpf1 to my nb1 but on a smaller lighter wheel size (debating 14 for max lightness or 15 for bigger brake setup) congrats on the new to you nc2, great choice with the club. I have driven the NC2 with the 6 speed manual and the 5 speed manual, anyone else besides me prefer the 5 speed? Felt a little more precise to me.
As for what to do with the motor, if you are keeping it naturally aspirated and want reliable high revving power then a kswap seems logical.
Nice! I've got 15" RPF1 for the Exocet, I recommend those just based on tire options. I've never felt a NC 5-speed before but the 6 feels great. Almost as good as a NA 5speed IMO
Actually, my dad's Caterham does have an NC 5 speed, that transmission feels phenomenal.
Awesome,awesome,awesome. Love it. I daily a nd 1 and beside the water bed motion, I love it so much. Cars are becoming pretty fast but the speed limit is staying the same. Love your guys Chanel.
Is Ryan in the deep freeze in bags?lol
I am looking forward to this content having just purchased a 2011 NC2 myself as my next project car. Perhaps in the summer you can welcome it for a head to head challenge with Mattchew's NC if it is complete by then. Also to the comments previously made, the NC Miata is like an Audi R8 or the new generation Corvette. It looks much better in person than in photographs.
3 of my cars have RPF1s, 1 one of them is a 2013 NC Club. Approved.
Nice pickup! It's an RX8 lite.... in every sense of the word.
...But Quinn if you let this beat your rx8 it only means you've neglected your RX-8 😂
I’ll be honest since I started driving an SLK, I haven’t watched the channel as much as I did when I had an NA and an NB, I think this build might get me back into an MX5
Yesss!
I love RPF1s, had them on three cars lol. They might not have the clout of a Volk or an Advan, but they're still very nice well made wheels and cant really beat the weight and strength. Especially for the money. They're timeless imo.
Couldn't have said it better...
I have a 2008 PRHT and love it! Excited to see where this build goes. I will definitely take some ideas. Already thinking on your new wheels, I've been looking for something to reduce weight and still look good. I also have the Super Q 👌 and am looking for a tiny bit more volume. One thing I like about the 2.0 is that when you are reaching redline the sound profile of the engine changes, basically telling me to shift. You loose that with the 2.5.
Wheels are always a nice touch because you get the looks but also feel it in suspension performance.
Really nice lookin NC. Probably the only miata i can actually fit in 😂 congrats Matt! 🎉
Sorry for the initial issue with this upload, Thanks everyone!
Have you ever felt like your channel gets shadow banned or throttled algorithmically speaking? I regularly watch your content and have for some time and you never appear in my suggested feeds, nor do you appear in the search bar I have to type your channel name completely out.
Please please PLEASE tell me where he got that (alcantara?) sliding centre console piece that covers the cupholders. My one is so broken and I can't find a replacement haha. Great video
I actually just bought some padded Alcantara and wrapped it myself! Super easy!
Let's go boys - NC master race
Very interesting, will be following this closely. Might retire my S2000 & run of these instead as it's alot cheaper if something goes wrong.
@@SumoAustin
Spot on, this is my plan now.
@@SumoAustin THIS ^^^^^
We are watching ;)
You need the autotop for the NC PRICELESS
I like my white club and I added more red accents in the cabin to focus attention away from the white dash panel.
Are the fenders rolled to fit those wheels and tires with no rubbing?
@theslipangle would like to know as well
Sweet, now renesis swap it
That would be sick!
U Guys are from MA 😮 I’m from CT that’s so cool i own a NC3 true red awesome car
We are from CT. The car was purchased from MA though. True red is a great color!
There is also the 2.5L swap. ETA: Clearly posted this before Matt mentioned it. So K or LS swap then.
hahahahahaha. LS would be a beast!
I have a turbo 1.8 with 140k miles. The car on the street is mechanically bulletproof. With 6k you can go to 300hp stock motor and transmission.
Quinn and I have both done this on our NAs
I'm going to miss red rocket but I can't be mad at this trade! She's a beaut Matchew!
Thanks buddy!! I know I'm going to miss the Red car too. Hopefully the White FD will fill that void.
100% just jump to a 2.5L Swap and save yourself the money of building the 2.0, with headers and tune alone you'll be seeing better HP then your predicted 185whp from mild cams in the 2.0
RPF1 never get's old💪💪
Awesome wheels and stance. It’s official now-my next car is a Miata NC 2! How low is the car with that setup and were there any fender lip modifications needed for it to work?
Looking forward to this one
i like this channels content since it focuses on the cars hmm balance (dont have a better word for it). strange question: if you were to choose between e92 m3, e46 m3, 2015+ mustang gt, cayman 987, gt86 which one would you chose? looking for the all rounder to just enjoy every single ride and when i want to to just hoon it drift it etc
easily E92 m3 or cayman with a flat 6
@@MrZyLeXx im leaning towards e92 becouse im scared of bore scoring on cayman and e92 got lsd from factory
Would go subaru brz. It's like the gr supra and the collaboration with bmw. It's mostly bmw. Same with this gr86/brz twins. This will be the cheapest by far to own for a street car out of your list. If you got a little money, e46 m3 all day. E92 same kinda issues as e46 m3 except chassis, and your gonna burn a whole lot more fuel in that v8. If you have even more money, cayman. I'm pretty sure bore scoring issues are part of that cayman generation. If you have owned mostly reliable japanese cars, just be prepared to spend money on the German stuff.
not in a million years, it's not nearly enough of a car to compete with the others. If he tracks the car, he needs to worry with the GR86 sadly..@@scottcolpitts8521
If you can find a mint E92 that was cared for with proper maintenance, the S65 is so good...
My NC2 PRHT GT also has the bilsteins and lsd plus the heated seats which I appreciate in winter top down drives. It’s a great car and much better than my NB1
Now that you've that the new wheels mounted with the 245/40's, what are your thoughts on that tire size? Goodwin recommends a 17x8 with a 235/40 for street cars but as someone else has mentioned, the tire selection is very, very minimal in comparison to the 245/255 selection. I'm looking to do the same setup with a set of 245/40s Conti ExtremeContact Sport 02's, slightly lowered on coilovers with the appropriate amount of negative camber for a street car, but, its hard to find input on how the 17x9 245/40 combo really is. Otherwise, its a 17x9 +45 with a 235/40 Toyo Proxes Sport. Or, a 17x8 +45 with the same tire/size per Goodwin's recommendation. Your setup looks great on the car by the way and is what I'm looking for!
Get the Rays Mazda motorsport wheels. Cheapest forged wheels you can get and they're lighter then stock. Made for the NC spec race cars.
see we back for a 2nd view
Appreciate it!!
But a 2.5 short stroke that and make a good NA build. You could theoretically make 220 whp
So what size tire did you end up going with?
I put the existing 245/40 geForce Rivals back on these wheels, they still had about half tread and we do have mounting equipment so I figured why not... I'll probably drop to a 225 or 235 set of something 200TW after these wear out.
Bro this is so sick. Im stoked matchew picket up an NC3. I love my NC2. Regarding wheels I got Enkei TS-V in 17x8 +38 offset and they look so damn good. I'll show Quinn what they look like on Instagram.
The TS-V is a nice looking wheel!!
Maybe something like a cosworth duratec 2.3 or similar for all naturally aspirated build? I believe that engine was mated to a 6 speed NC transmission in gordon murray's build of his escort by Retropower cars.
I'm not sure how much something like that would go for but I love that idea
235/40 R17 is the way to go
I think the next set may be 235/40
@@TheSlipAngle I've been very happy with my 235/40 Federal RSRs but 235/40 are getting harder to find so I am considering 245/40 or 225/45 unfortunately
It's beautiful.
Thank you!!
Subscribed for more NC’s aka the boat contents😅
100!
I think it would be awesome to see a "built" 2.0, Imo If you would go K Swap you would be better going straight to a S2000,
Have you tried on a helmet in the car yet? Just wondering if there is enough headroom for one in there? Also if you fit how tall are you?
This doesn't help my desire for one of these! I'd say pick up a Goodwin Helmholtz centre piece if the axleback was too loud, at least then it targets the drone but you can change overall volume with the rear muffler. (haven't experienced either though, so that's just an educated guess). Depends if you stay with the Mazda engine though as well.
Yeah, like you said, it's all going to depend what engine it will ultimately have. I think anything with a header will sound good with the Super-Q axle back. If it's too loud, I can always do the HH mid pipe
😮ooooooooooo shiiii it's about time!
Right?!?!?!
Another great candidate for a Renesis Swap. 👀
I have said this to Matchew but for a fun street car at this weight I think it's going to need something that can make more than 180 wtq. My tuned Renesis only made 142 wtq
@@TheSlipAngle the 2.5Ls seem to have really nice torque, very flat curve too.
One day I'm going to swap a 13B MSP into a NC :)
We've had discussions about it for sure
This is the way
@@TheSlipAngleDo it🙏🏻
Nice move Matthew! Mo Miata Mo Betta!
Thanks Dave! Is your TDO Intake manifold on the car yet?
@@TheSlipAngle It is, for position! Progress is progress 👍
I have rpf1 on my mustang
Are you gonna give ROMdrop a try for flash tuning on this car? From what i read it's free, community based and has a completely defined calibration.
Still researching, but most likely
The only miata I'll buy. But with a rotary swap.
There may be a chassis that starts with MX and an engine that starts with 13 in the near future on this channel.
K swap would be awesome
Agreeeeeeee
@theslipangle have you driven a v8 miata?
Not yet
Hmu if you want to
I love NCs The oem removable hardtop looks way better than the prht imo
I agree that the shape of the OEM removable is better but I love that the PRHT doesn't look like a convertible with a hard top. Can't go wrong either way IMO
K swap please
That's what we are thinking
👀 do a renesis nc
That would be sick! Nice to know they use the same front subframe
8k 2.0 MZ!
This
Why not just do a Fusion 2.5L
they said it in the video, it doesnt rev high enough safe enough.
I think that the 2.5 is a cool option, I've just never done an NA high rev build before.
A better wheel than rpf1, easy. 949 racing gen 5 6ul. only went with them because of the rim history and wanted something other than rfp1's which everyone runs.
I have read that the NC and rx8-subframes are swappable btw.. and gearbox interchangeable.. just saying (cough* rotary-nc! cough*) 🤣
hhhmmmmmmmmm....
2.5 swap is dogshit unless you turbo and keep the revs low. this things destroy themselves if you live above 6k for too long, go K or build the 2.0 for sure
This was my initial thought (without personal experience) so it's reassuring to hear it from someone else. I don't think it's a bad option, I just want this thing to rev.
Omg....... old dudes talking about...... newer Mazdas
and I think soon even newer BMWs.....🤣🤣
N x
Newer BWMs Neil? What ever do you mean?...😉