BIG note on using a MTB helmet. You are at a VERY high risk of a collarbone fracture. To avoid the risk you can get a neck brace that will protect your spine and collarbone. In our rather large group of PEV riders collar bone fractures with mtb helmet’s are common. Just a heads up
I am curious as to why that would be the case, and also as to why an MTB helmet would be any more prone to collarbone injuries than I am assuming a regular motorcycle helmet.
I broke my collarbone and wrist about 6 months ago from an e scooter accident going about 30kmph. My advice tuck your chin and roll, also never ride with a bulky or heavy backpack.
I learned this tip when I used to ride motorcycles: When helmet shopping wear the helmet around the shop for 10 minutes. You'll feel self conscious and dorky, but will notice anything wrong with the fit. Myself I get pressure points at my temples and a mild headache with many helmets. For my scooter I found a Fox full face MTB helmet that fits perfectly.
my Bell Qualifier helmet saved my face: didn't see a pothole too deep for my scooter to handle, catapulted me over the handlebars at about 25 MPH, landed directly on my face, hit the street so hard the visor popped off. The only other protection I was wearing was gloves, no pads or armor (I was in shorts and a t-shirt!!), and I walked away with abrasions/bruises on my elbows and knees, but no serious injuries, not even a sore neck, even though I absolutely landed on my face. I was rowing and working out as I normally would the next day. I love my Bell Qualifier!
glad I found your page, So much good info on a newbie that just picked up a relatively budget scooter, and now wanting a dual motor haha. You guys make great informative content
Dudes, thank you so much for making this video. Im going to rider fest tomorrow andni was actually going to ask you guys what gear you would recommend for me as someone who is going to be purchasing a Hyper Scooter and you guys uploaded this video. You guys are Amazing! Thank you and please keep those safety gear videos coming. I will definitely buy from your links as long as it supports the channel. 😎👊
Great video RG teaching about safety gear! I bailed off my KQI 3 max at 32km/h and got scraped up pretty bad - safety should have been my #1 priority over aesthetics!
Half helmet is a problem waiting to happen. If you live in a hot climate, that will be a major factor in gear. For helmets, the Kali Invader 2.0 is great and cool.
I ride my fantastic Treverun 11+ fighter stand up electric scooter almost all the time at its top speed of 51 mph, and I bought top of the line protection gear, wrist guards, elbow guards, knee guards, and a DOT helmet, and safety goggles for eye protection against flying bugs. All my protection gear feels comfortable & looks really attractive. I do wear above the knees shorts in the hot summer season but I'm very alert, and professional at riding at 51+ mph. I will probably switch to the full cover helmet that covers your chin in the event of a wipe out. Thanks for posting this video, it will give scooter owners the way to go in the field of good protection. Great work guys.👍👍🤸🤸🤸🤸😁🗝️
Thanks for the video Paul and Mitchell! I am pretty much in motorcycle gear these days riding EUCs. I do tend to spend more money on the motorcycle stuff that is light and comfortable (i.e. graphite helmet, D30 padding, etc.) However, I do like Mitchell's solid protection and low weight options.
One piece of safety gear I wear most often for bike touring is my cycling gloves. I avoid all the lycra and such and buy good quality, heavy double leather palmed, tricot backed gloves. They protect the hands on taped handle bars, but are also really good for crashes. I also have some stingray leather, and didn't realize that utility. I will be adding some of that to my gloves.
Thank you for making this video! I just got my first scooter (Nami Klima Max) and an Arai XD-4 helmet. I'm brand new to this world, so figured I should start with the best I can find. Can't wait to get out on the road/streets! :)
good stuff thanks guys i feel like you gotta do more gear videos and you should also do one on where to position a lock when locking our scooters and what locks we should use thanks boys!
I see you have answered my question about making this video from couple videos before. Thank you for making it and making this and answering my questions about protection gear and reassuring me that I am not strange for wearing full face helmet and riding on asphalt instead on sidewalks like others in Ireland and wearing nothing of safety gear.
My new helmet arrived today after watching this and a few other videos. I’m sharing the road with unpredictable big-city car traffic 98% of the time I’m out, so I decided to invest even though I don’t go quite as fast. I’d rather feel silly bringing a motorcycle helmet into the office than getting a life-changing head injury on the way in.
Good topic! While I was riding escooters quite a bit (without much gear, which is stupid), another channel introduced me to es8's a couple months ago and I've been hooked ever since. Unfortunately I eat sh!t for the first time recently while carving over some acorns and since I've decided to get (and wear!) more safety gear after removing some skin on pavement and gravel! I immediately picked up the Triple Eight Sweatsaver Half Helmet and their elbow pads, some knee and hip/tailbone pads, a decent set of fingerless gloves (so I can still use the remote) and a motocross jacket with full upper body pads for riding in cooler weather when I can wear a sweatshirt or jacket over it. I feel so much safer wearing this gear while riding now!
I don’t see this often but I use the demon shin guards and absolutely love them for Arizona heart and the pair have lasted plus easy to put on/off. For helmet, again, I love my Kali full face down hill style and from my understanding it has no DOT but they did say in literature it could easily pass DOT (IDK?). All I have ever hit was low branches grazed but better than hitting my head while riding my EUC. Soard brand of wrist protectors slid nicely in one incident at 20mph still wearing same ones for 2 years and continuing.
The Freerider 510 shoes I can recomend also, they are awesome I actuallly have 3 differant pair of em and they are not expensive at all, perfect for mtb and electric scooters u get alot of nice grip.
As someone who just got hit by a car last Thursday on my wolf warrior 11 I’m very thankful. I had a good motorcycle helmet but I wish I did have some more gear overall.
I'm glad I wore protective knee and elbow pads plus a full face helmet, I swerved on a bike line to avoid head on collision with a car turning. I take some responsibility as I was going 40km/h. My right elbow, knee and head would've taken some serious injury, got up with some bruises the next day but nothing serious.
Is it safe to change gears while driving, slowing, or letting go of the throttle all together? I'm new to this so please, it would really mean a lot If you can answer this.
Excellent! I was hoping you would do this video. I won't be spending $1500 on clothing so should we worry about elbow protection? Knee protection? Nobody wants to slap on more pads on a hot day than necessary, but nobody wants to wound up in the hospital either. Thanks for doing this video! 👍
Gloves. I just use the weightlifting gloves I already have. I don't go at insane speeds but want to protect against scraping my palm on the road, and getting sores from the hand grips.
gentleman great recommendations, i follow you guys alot and buy stuff you recommended. i dont see anything on padss for knees and elbow. what do u recommend?
Big correction at 2:24 -- FMVSS 218 is the DOT standard. It's the same thing. It does not require outside testing. And SHARP is a rating system, not really a certification. If a helmet gets 1 star from SHARP, that's not good. Probably what you should have said is to look for DOT + ECE or DOT + Snell.
The few times I've fallen; hand, elbow and forearm protection against scraping on the pavement is needed. Knee/shin guards haven't been needed so I stopped using those. Wear full face helmets of course - haven't needed it, but getting hurt there would be worst case scenario.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide What do you think about the agv k1 helmet as a beginner helmet or would you recommend me skipping to a different higher end helmet?
Best safety on a budget is to get a $20 pair of wrist guards to protect your palms & wrists, and a $120 Bell Qualifier motorcycle helmet. That's what I use for every ride. I tend to ride between 25-35mph.
interesting video I lean heavier on safety than most people thing is necessary but im not worried about me binning it on my own ass much as I am getting hit by a car while road riding as my city has dangerous drivers that tend to blow intersections
There's a brand I came across while viewing a Nami Klima review video called BeyondRiders. They have armored clothing that looks more urban and something I'd prob more likely to wear that straight up mtb or moto gear. Can you guys do a review on their clothing particularly the armored cargo pants? Interested to see if the padding are in the right places and don't move around unlike some moto pants.
OMG. I was trying to thank you so much for your video because you saved my life. But RUclips keeps deleting it. How can I get my commenets to you without RUclips deleting them?
Can you guys test the gloves from Flatland 3D? I got mine on recommendation from Andrew (I think) from Freshly Charged. They have pads to keep you from hurting that scaphoid bone in your palm and braces on the back so you don't hyper extend your wrist if you fall. I like thw way they feel but I have absolutely no intention of testing whether they do or don't work well for that purpose.
I own some Knox gloves that have the same wrist protectors. I've crashed in them multiple times and they worked perfectly, my hands slid and I had no wrist injuries.
My friends are interested in getting into e scooter. They want to get a hyper scooters. I can't stress enough to them how important to buy brand name safety gear
I came off my Apollo Phantom on Friday, landed on my right elbow, and jammed my shoulder. Possible rotator cuff injury or dislocated shoulder/possible shoulder sprain. Has this happened to anyone? Fortunately, I have been experiencing improvement over the last 48 hours but I only have maybe 40 percent movement in my right arm, and can’t raise my arm above my ribs. Has this happened to anyone here?
@@PBST_RAIDZ Thank you. I did receive an X-ray within days of the fall that showed no broken bones. A subsequent MRI showed a 1 centimeter partial tear of the rotator cuff. Two months later, while the shoulder does ache at night, full use of the arm has thankfully returned - though I’m yet to restart my pushup routine. Here’s the lesson: Scooters are not like bicycles; do NOT take your hands off the handlebars at any time while in motion, not even for a second. Not even to scratch your nose or chin.
I rode a motorcycle for years, and I will not be wearing a 6 pound helmet to ride my scooter... MIPS bicycle helmets for us. A $600 helmet for a $400 scooter??? Me thinks not. No pads either... sorry. Then again, we only ride around at 10-15mph. On the motorcycle, I always wore $1500 worth of armored clothing and a Shoei helmet, so I get it...
BIG note on using a MTB helmet. You are at a VERY high risk of a collarbone fracture. To avoid the risk you can get a neck brace that will protect your spine and collarbone. In our rather large group of PEV riders collar bone fractures with mtb helmet’s are common. Just a heads up
Thanks for the heads up no pun intended…I was gonna go for the MTB helmet but now I’m gonna reconsider
Thanks for the input! Appreciated
I am curious as to why that would be the case, and also as to why an MTB helmet would be any more prone to collarbone injuries than I am assuming a regular motorcycle helmet.
I broke my collarbone and wrist about 6 months ago from an e scooter accident going about 30kmph. My advice tuck your chin and roll, also never ride with a bulky or heavy backpack.
@@PBST_RAIDZ tell uber eats drivers about that 😆
I learned this tip when I used to ride motorcycles: When helmet shopping wear the helmet around the shop for 10 minutes. You'll feel self conscious and dorky, but will notice anything wrong with the fit. Myself I get pressure points at my temples and a mild headache with many helmets. For my scooter I found a Fox full face MTB helmet that fits perfectly.
my Bell Qualifier helmet saved my face: didn't see a pothole too deep for my scooter to handle, catapulted me over the handlebars at about 25 MPH, landed directly on my face, hit the street so hard the visor popped off. The only other protection I was wearing was gloves, no pads or armor (I was in shorts and a t-shirt!!), and I walked away with abrasions/bruises on my elbows and knees, but no serious injuries, not even a sore neck, even though I absolutely landed on my face. I was rowing and working out as I normally would the next day. I love my Bell Qualifier!
Did you end up getting any extra gear after the accident? Thanks
Were you wearing the MIPS or the standard? Glad to hear you’re good.
glad I found your page, So much good info on a newbie that just picked up a relatively budget scooter, and now wanting a dual motor haha. You guys make great informative content
Welcome aboard!
Dudes, thank you so much for making this video. Im going to rider fest tomorrow andni was actually going to ask you guys what gear you would recommend for me as someone who is going to be purchasing a Hyper Scooter and you guys uploaded this video. You guys are Amazing! Thank you and please keep those safety gear videos coming. I will definitely buy from your links as long as it supports the channel. 😎👊
In the euc world, some common gear we wear are leatt dual axis knee guards, fox titan racing elbow guards, and some kind of glove with palm sliders
Yes, I've been waiting for this content! I wear motorcycle gear, the road hurts just falling down at 0mph. Team Paul!
Great Mix Up of Gear for various riding situations. Thanks for keeping me aware of the importance of safety. You know I gotta hit those high speeds.😆
Great video RG teaching about safety gear! I bailed off my KQI 3 max at 32km/h and got scraped up pretty bad - safety should have been my #1 priority over aesthetics!
Half helmet is a problem waiting to happen. If you live in a hot climate, that will be a major factor in gear. For helmets, the Kali Invader 2.0 is great and cool.
I ride my fantastic Treverun 11+ fighter stand up electric scooter almost all the time at its top speed of 51 mph, and I bought top of the line protection gear, wrist guards, elbow guards, knee guards, and a DOT helmet, and safety goggles for eye protection against flying bugs. All my protection gear feels comfortable & looks really attractive. I do wear above the knees shorts in the hot summer season but I'm very alert, and professional at riding at 51+ mph. I will probably switch to the full cover helmet that covers your chin in the event of a wipe out. Thanks for posting this video, it will give scooter owners the way to go in the field of good protection. Great work guys.👍👍🤸🤸🤸🤸😁🗝️
Thanks for the video Paul and Mitchell! I am pretty much in motorcycle gear these days riding EUCs. I do tend to spend more money on the motorcycle stuff that is light and comfortable (i.e. graphite helmet, D30 padding, etc.) However, I do like Mitchell's solid protection and low weight options.
One piece of safety gear I wear most often for bike touring is my cycling gloves. I avoid all the lycra and such and buy good quality, heavy double leather palmed, tricot backed gloves. They protect the hands on taped handle bars, but are also really good for crashes. I also have some stingray leather, and didn't realize that utility. I will be adding some of that to my gloves.
Thank you for making this video! I just got my first scooter (Nami Klima Max) and an Arai XD-4 helmet. I'm brand new to this world, so figured I should start with the best I can find. Can't wait to get out on the road/streets! :)
Welcome aboard!
good stuff thanks guys i feel like you gotta do more gear videos and you should also do one on where to position a lock when locking our scooters and what locks we should use thanks boys!
Thanks for the idea!
Bell Servo in the background? Love that helmet. Best value for casual riders.
I see you have answered my question about making this video from couple videos before. Thank you for making it and making this and answering my questions about protection gear and reassuring me that I am not strange for wearing full face helmet and riding on asphalt instead on sidewalks like others in Ireland and wearing nothing of safety gear.
Glad it was helpful!
Lol I'm with Paul dressing like a juggernaut
Bicycle Helmut Mirror "3rd Eye" glued to your 'dome'. I use on both my Raleigh & my HiBoy.
My new helmet arrived today after watching this and a few other videos. I’m sharing the road with unpredictable big-city car traffic 98% of the time I’m out, so I decided to invest even though I don’t go quite as fast. I’d rather feel silly bringing a motorcycle helmet into the office than getting a life-changing head injury on the way in.
Thanks for sharing!
Good topic! While I was riding escooters quite a bit (without much gear, which is stupid), another channel introduced me to es8's a couple months ago and I've been hooked ever since. Unfortunately I eat sh!t for the first time recently while carving over some acorns and since I've decided to get (and wear!) more safety gear after removing some skin on pavement and gravel! I immediately picked up the Triple Eight Sweatsaver Half Helmet and their elbow pads, some knee and hip/tailbone pads, a decent set of fingerless gloves (so I can still use the remote) and a motocross jacket with full upper body pads for riding in cooler weather when I can wear a sweatshirt or jacket over it. I feel so much safer wearing this gear while riding now!
Should i get the E wheels E7 or the solar P1 2.0 copy? I am from norway so we dont have Solar
We like the solar scooter!
What should i have? Front wheels drive, back wheel drive or both?
We love dual motors!
I don’t see this often but I use the demon shin guards and absolutely love them for Arizona heart and the pair have lasted plus easy to put on/off. For helmet, again, I love my Kali full face down hill style and from my understanding it has no DOT but they did say in literature it could easily pass DOT (IDK?). All I have ever hit was low branches grazed but better than hitting my head while riding my EUC. Soard brand of wrist protectors slid nicely in one incident at 20mph still wearing same ones for 2 years and continuing.
Ahh dude I want one of those aero stitch suits now..damn. Gonna save up now lol.
Im considering a helmet like the full face one for a scooter that stops at 15 mph. Should i just get the triple 8?
Solid
The Freerider 510 shoes I can recomend also, they are awesome I actuallly have 3 differant pair of em and they are not expensive at all, perfect for mtb and electric scooters u get alot of nice grip.
Thanks for sharing!
you should try the 7Protection project 23 helmet, the fiber glass and the carbor fiber one
As someone who just got hit by a car last Thursday on my wolf warrior 11 I’m very thankful. I had a good motorcycle helmet but I wish I did have some more gear overall.
Wow sorry about that! Glad you are okay
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide thank you! I have a long road over recovery, but I’m gonna stay positive through it all
How did you get hit?
@@jclyntoledo driver ran a red light when I had green
I'm glad I wore protective knee and elbow pads plus a full face helmet, I swerved on a bike line to avoid head on collision with a car turning. I take some responsibility as I was going 40km/h. My right elbow, knee and head would've taken some serious injury, got up with some bruises the next day but nothing serious.
Glad you’re okay! Stay Safe out there.
Can you do a review on WEPED scooters? Foldable mini 10
We will take a look thank you!
Just ordered my first scooter at 44yo… 19mph is the top speed (Hilboy KS4 Pro), so thinking of grabbing the fox gloves & half helmet shown here.
Fox dirt bike helmet i got that a year ago its very comfortable in black
Is it safe to change gears while driving, slowing, or letting go of the throttle all together? I'm new to this so please, it would really mean a lot If you can answer this.
Down gear should be okay
Excellent! I was hoping you would do this video.
I won't be spending $1500 on clothing so should we worry about elbow protection? Knee protection? Nobody wants to slap on more pads on a hot day than necessary, but nobody wants to wound up in the hospital either.
Thanks for doing this video! 👍
Wear knee pads, gloves and a helmet.
Gloves. I just use the weightlifting gloves I already have. I don't go at insane speeds but want to protect against scraping my palm on the road, and getting sores from the hand grips.
Insightful!
gentleman great recommendations, i follow you guys alot and buy stuff you recommended. i dont see anything on padss for knees and elbow. what do u recommend?
We will be making a video soon!
Big correction at 2:24 -- FMVSS 218 is the DOT standard. It's the same thing. It does not require outside testing.
And SHARP is a rating system, not really a certification. If a helmet gets 1 star from SHARP, that's not good.
Probably what you should have said is to look for DOT + ECE or DOT + Snell.
Thanks for the tip!
The few times I've fallen; hand, elbow and forearm protection against scraping on the pavement is needed. Knee/shin guards haven't been needed so I stopped using those. Wear full face helmets of course - haven't needed it, but getting hurt there would be worst case scenario.
Thanks for sharing
Hey Paul do you think agv helmets are good?
I’ve had a couple AGV flip-face helmets and really liked them. They aren’t as high end as Arai, but definitely a good brand. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide What do you think about the agv k1 helmet as a beginner helmet or would you recommend me skipping to a different higher end helmet?
I wear a HJC RPHA11 motorcycle helmet when I'm on my wolf warrior 11+ and that's it.
Best safety on a budget is to get a $20 pair of wrist guards to protect your palms & wrists, and a $120 Bell Qualifier motorcycle helmet. That's what I use for every ride. I tend to ride between 25-35mph.
Thanks for the feedback & tips.
Do you guys also do helmet reviews? I'd love to see a video, unless you have done one already.
Hopefully in the future!
I just got a full face bell qualifier helmet. Not risking my life for a little thrill.
interesting video I lean heavier on safety than most people thing is necessary but im not worried about me binning it on my own ass much as I am getting hit by a car while road riding as my city has dangerous drivers that tend to blow intersections
There's a brand I came across while viewing a Nami Klima review video called BeyondRiders. They have armored clothing that looks more urban and something I'd prob more likely to wear that straight up mtb or moto gear. Can you guys do a review on their clothing particularly the armored cargo pants? Interested to see if the padding are in the right places and don't move around unlike some moto pants.
Thanks for the input!
Hello, I have a Ninebot MAX G2D scooter. I have an LS2 helmet that I use on my motorcycle. Will I look funny if I wear it while riding a scooter?
You will look fine! Safety is priority
OMG. I was trying to thank you so much for your video because you saved my life. But RUclips keeps deleting it. How can I get my commenets to you without RUclips deleting them?
Who agrees with me that Paul and Mitchbill are gigachads🗿🍷
Can you guys test the gloves from Flatland 3D? I got mine on recommendation from Andrew (I think) from Freshly Charged. They have pads to keep you from hurting that scaphoid bone in your palm and braces on the back so you don't hyper extend your wrist if you fall. I like thw way they feel but I have absolutely no intention of testing whether they do or don't work well for that purpose.
I own some Knox gloves that have the same wrist protectors. I've crashed in them multiple times and they worked perfectly, my hands slid and I had no wrist injuries.
We will take a look thank you!
Buddy is a real life crash dummy. Thanks for the information.
POC full face helmets!
And we still have lack many ECE 22.06 cert helmets. Why can’t I get a Shoei Glamster in the US? DOT is garbage.
My friends are interested in getting into e scooter. They want to get a hyper scooters. I can't stress enough to them how important to buy brand name safety gear
Absolutely!
Nice
I came off my Apollo Phantom on Friday, landed on my right elbow, and jammed my shoulder. Possible rotator cuff injury or dislocated shoulder/possible shoulder sprain. Has this happened to anyone? Fortunately, I have been experiencing improvement over the last 48 hours but I only have maybe 40 percent movement in my right arm, and can’t raise my arm above my ribs. Has this happened to anyone here?
Sorry about that! Hope you feel better
Might be a broken collarbone had it happen to me earlier this year and had the exact same problems you just described.
@@PBST_RAIDZ Thank you. I did receive an X-ray within days of the fall that showed no broken bones. A subsequent MRI showed a 1 centimeter partial tear of the rotator cuff. Two months later, while the shoulder does ache at night, full use of the arm has thankfully returned - though I’m yet to restart my pushup routine.
Here’s the lesson: Scooters are not like bicycles; do NOT take your hands off the handlebars at any time while in motion, not even for a second. Not even to scratch your nose or chin.
i broke my wrist on scooter thats why im here
Sorry about that!
I rode a motorcycle for years, and I will not be wearing a 6 pound helmet to ride my scooter... MIPS bicycle helmets for us. A $600 helmet for a $400 scooter??? Me thinks not. No pads either... sorry. Then again, we only ride around at 10-15mph. On the motorcycle, I always wore $1500 worth of armored clothing and a Shoei helmet, so I get it...
This seems too much. I'm an Asian, I wear my pajamas and sandals while riding scooters or a woman😄...
Thanks for stopping by!