Russell Brand & Nigel Farage clash over immigration on Question Time (11/12/2014)
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Comedian Russell Brand and UKIP leader Nigel Farage debate whether Britain is becoming overcrowded due to immigration.
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“When I was poor and complained about inequality they said I was bitter; now that I'm rich and I complain about inequality they say I'm a hypocrite. I'm beginning to think they just don't want to talk about inequality.”
- Russell Brand
@fuckoffgoogle. You've a brilliant user name, but the hypocrite label suits Russel: 'talk left but live right'.
@@elrjames7799 haha glad you like the name
@@elrjames7799 Is missing the point a disability you have, or are you just being obtuse?
@@robashton8606 'When did you stop beating your wife'?
''when i was poor, i made the choice to get addicted to drugs, when i had money, all i had to do was join the ''blame the system, its the magic money tree rhetoric'' - without mentioning ''that same very system is now the reason im rich. ''....the hypocrisy isn't that he's ''rich'', the hypocrisy is he blames a system, not individual choice and responsibility, HE made the choice to inject heroin. The government didn't hold him down and force it. That same system he hates, he has benefitted from. He promotes debauchery, yet claims the rich are the ones committing debauchery.....
Attack the person, shout racist
respeck
Restecp
Say what you see.
Nelson Dugluss whatever Mr Chips.
Is this cause I is black?
After 8 years, no need tell who's right and who's wrong, just see how UK is today 🤭
Christmas becomes the holidays because people don’t like the country they immigrated to… I’m sorry but that has always made me chuckle inside
@@justsoup2460 If only it were true. It's the white middle class intelligentsia who despise anything to do with religion and "superstition" that cited possible offence to do away with something in their own culture that they themselves are ashamed and embarrassed of.
Agreed, look at how much the UK economy has suffered in the name of stopping immigrants from coming. Russell was right!
I didn't like Russell Brand back then but hes a bit more clued up now. There are also a lot of clapping seals in the audience without a clue in this clip.
Absolutely spot on 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Oddly enough, I agree with both of them to a certain extent.
I kinda am as well
Same bro
You lot must be seriously confused because they were both holding mutually exclusive views!
‘Firage is a lifelong BS artist & a pro corrupt corporate tool!
Russell Brand was talking 100% truth here!
I find Russell talks about a different subject when he is asked a question. Two different topics are being discussed.
@@cutwagman Russell is arguing that the cons on immigration are not what big media portray them as and that alot of the cutbacks and tax rises and lower quality of living come from big banks and corrupt politicians and accountants
Russel Brand then went home to his mansion.
just because he became rich, he can't disparage the economic system we live in? Actually it works against him, so your argument is completely irrelevant...
AggTheMag No, your argument is completely irrelevant...
So did Nigel
@@andreicallanan1029 Acc, he doesn't live in a mansion, so you should probably do some research before making idiotic criticisms.
@@jakehouston3377 Oh sorry, this interview must have taken place before Nigel's secret sugar daddy Arron Banks paid for him to live in a 4 million quid house in Chelsea
Instead of making any actual arguments, Brand just goes back to his crowd-pleasing 'blame the rich' populism. Sycophantic sophists doing what they do best.
What?
Allowing his opposite to make a point.
Thomas Edgerley But that's what it all comes down to in the end, people with money have the power to make the lives of the poor better, but instead they blame immigrants for sucking the wealth out of our country. Look at countries like Denmark, the highest taxes in the world yet small businesses thrive, because government regulation prevents huge monopolies from exploiting workers for profit. The reality that no one wants to realise is that the rich don't give a shit about the poor; the born rich stay rich and the born poor generally stay poor. Our system works for the few, not the majority. Do you call that a Great British Democracy?
***** The born poor have great opportunities to become rich. The only people stopping a young kid from a council estate doing well in school, going to university and getting rich and the kids themselves and their parents. Is that not what fairness is, opportunities for all? Surely its less fair to artificially balance people's wealth in a way that throws money at people who haven't earned it?
Keri Naidoo It's a false dichotomy to say that the problem is either big business or immigration, it happens to be a mixture of the two. My comment is talking about Brands total diversion from the question.
Well said, Nigel
I remember watching this and agreeing with Russel and Eddie 8 years ago. I now side with Nigel. Its now 2023 I could not get a doctors appointment after trying for nearly two weeks so i went to the hospital and told i have to stand outside when i looked in the window every chair was taken by an immigrant. Full families of them. I now pay privately for my healthcare and its driven me into severe debt with my cancer. Payed tax and worked for 40 odd years for nothing. Glad my kids have found a better life elsewhere in the world as i believe its too late for Britain to reverse the negative effects. VOTE REFORM.
Almost half of NHS workforce is foreign.. Problem is aging population which is most old English people from which many of them never worked a minute of their lifes..Who Will look after them if no immigrants here?? Young lazy Brits?? Who will work in factories,farms,healthcare etc??
The older I get the more I'm convinced that people compound their ignorance simply through an inability to admit when they're wrong and it's really sad becase it's often those people who shout the loudest
Who are you talking about?
The older you get the easier it is to trigger you into fearing things that don't threaten you in the slightest.
Fixed it
Its called getting stuck in your ways.... care to talk about education? As what we learn in our formative years. Helps shape who we become as a person....
Fear is powerful. Ignorance is a hard thing to change.
These guys are playing dirty, though! A couple of crowd plants and all of a sudden, lacky Jim is up there snickering his way through a tv spot, enjoying his handiwork.
Matthew Malpeli amazing pearl of wisdom
The moment Question Time turned into the Jeremy Kyle Show
What a slime ball reptilian with his mockney accent Russell brand is.
@auraman he's a very intelligent person
The worst part is that all of them made some sense:
1. Quality of immigration is important,
2. Corruption should be tackled and banker bonuses should be kept in check,
3. Russell Brand should stand for the parliament and at the same time try not to be corrupted by power,
4. Scale of immigration in a given year must be decided by the market forces of demand and supply.
So what was wrong with Enoch Powell ?
We’ll said Nigel
Another nonbiased BBC audience.
🤣
Just like the ABC in Australia stack the audience with lefties and take the moral high ground
@@lapalad It works great until voting day along with their bullshit polls.
Absolute bullshit recently with how the bbc portray boris johnson as some kind of monster
@@morganmorris2698 he's not a monster and they've never portrayed him as one, they portray him as a moron and he is.
Would love to see Brand distribute his money to everyone, fucking hypocrite living in his safe, rich, ivory tower.
same with farage. hates the eu gets his money from them
7 years later. Look where Brand is. Time tells with hypocrites.
How did I know she would have blue hair... 5:30
And called Karen..
Hmm...Brand doing his normal pound shop Jack Sparrow
Farage smiling at the shouty bloke with the walking stick “Yes, yes… let the hate flow through you”
“When I was poor and complained about inequality they said I was bitter; now that I'm rich and I complain about inequality they say I'm a hypocrite. I'm beginning to think they just don't want to talk about inequality.” - Russell brand
''When I actually encounter the poor, I tell them to ''shut up mate, and don't vote'' if they oppose mass uncontrolled migration then I call them Enoch Powell. I can't believe in this day and age people complain about mass uncontrolled migration, I live in the richest parts of the country and I don't see a problem with it at all.'' - Russell Brand
I pretty sure the bird shouting at him was the 1 full of hate 🤷🏻♂️
they should be charged 101% tax for being retarded and it would solve everything
@@reubenl8810 exactly. The creation of pejorative terms like ‘champagne socialist’ and ‘virtue signalling’ tells you everything you need to know about how scared certain people are of these types of discussions, especially when it comes from people who aren’t meant to care about it because they’re financially comfortable.
It’s an uncomfortable discussion for the anti-immigrant grifters like Farage because the discussion inevitably leads to questioning why our society has such a huge gulf in wealth in contrast with levels of pay and taxation for the majority of the population.
There’s only one section of society that have the ability to create and influence such a disproportionate wealth gap and it’s certainly not the immigrant population. It amazes me people still fall for the idea immigrants are to blame while still believing in a system of free market capitalism.
It's amazing how many people seem unable to recognise that there are issues raised by both that need to be tackled
Having a screaming match is far more important, after all.
Agreed.russle brought up a really good point that needs to addressed even if it wasn’t relevant to the specific question
They're both right. Missed opportunity for them both to come together and show the people the power of unity
@@thea-dog1157 Russell tries to push regulation on economy to solve the problems, so he would create more problems that we have already if he got his way
You nailed Russell. Russell has ignored stolen elections for 50 days! 2000 mules.
Russell Brand , a pound shop James Saville
Show some actual evidence than believing what MSM says, 🤡.
@@PhilipMarcYTthere's footage of him inappropriately caressing a young girl's chest in front of TV camera. It's been viral for years.
What an embarrassment brand is and he needs to buy a comb LOL.
Funny thing is that they are both right. Massive immigration and Bankers are both taking massive economic resources out of the lower and middle class.
Was about to comment this
yeah but you have to remember Russell is a champagne socialist, so, like Owen Jones needs to shout abuse, ''WAAHHHH YOUR BLAMIN FOREIGNERS''
how?
''uh BY SAYING THAT MASS UNCONTROLLED MIGRATION SHOULDN'T BE FORCED ON THE POOREST FAR RIGHT FAR RIGHT''
same old leftwing nonsense we hear daily coming out of the Guardian, New European, the independent, Question Time audiences, lib dems leftwing, liebour leftwing, SNP leftwing, Greens leftwing, y'know, the establishment against the people. Anyone who opposes their policies must be attacked. Same old same old we move.
@@Anawackp15 how do you feel about 80billion bonuses and tax loopholes for millionaires? it seems like that 80billion spread across the working class would ease pressure from immigration overcrowding before they can come up with a permanent solution... no?
@@28gs28gs How do you feel about mass uncontrolled migration being forced on the poorest while leftwing champagne socialists virtue signal on the matter and pretend it isn't a problem?
And no, we already have an unaffordable state dependent class that's put us in insurmountable debt.
@@Anawackp15 i think it sucks just like you do 😂 but until it can be fixed, wouldnt the extra 80 billion help? 😂😂😂 and if you think billionaires are diffrent between left wing and right wing youre sadly mistaken 😂 they all couldnt give a fuck 😂😂
Who's benefitting from mass-immigration, the employer with a limitless supply of foreign slaves to choose from, or the employee who's now forced to compete for slave wages?
Tell that to the lorry drivers
@@Hamza24434 ''only foreigners should do underpaid work in this country.'' leftwing racists say no more
@@Anawackp15 wtf how did you come to that conclusion just from 'tell that to the lorry drivers', it almoat seems like you have been conditioned to just think anyone who disagree with you is the enemy and the devil, plz try to actually use critical thinking, instead of just blindly following agitative propaganda
@@user-gj7mz7ej5l Um the people suggesting that we need a constant influx of low skilled people to be underpaid in this country are incredibly racist. But ofcourse they infer that anyone who opposes mass uncontrolled migration is ''waycist'' because unlike them, they're not in favour of exploiting migrants for underpaid work. So stop following leftwing media agendas like the Guardian, BBC etc. Use critical thinking instead bootlicking. Thanks u
@@Anawackp15 hahaha, omg i feel bad about how badly i am about rip into what you just said so i'll be nice, and i hope you would also actually apply some critical thinking here and recognise when you got things wrong
first of all you implied that lorry drivers are 'low skill' workers, do i really need to say more here haha. well just in case you didn't know, driving a truck is not easy let along for a long period of time, people needs to actually study theory as well as practice before actually passing a test to get a license, so not exactly a 'low skilled' job is it?
plus just a google search tells me that lorry drivers earn an average 30000 to 40000 a year, around the median wage of the UK, so not exactly underpaid are they?
so your assertion that this dude saying that we should have more lorry drivers from outside Uk to pluck the gaps somehow means that he's a racists who want's to exploit a constant stream of 'low skilled' migrants is just completely wrong, and i hope you could swallow your ego and recognise what you said was wrong
and nobody is actually for 'mass uncontrolled migration', nor has there ever been 'mass uncontrolled migration' in the UK in the past decades, and no one is going to call you racist because of that, look i am opposed to it too. but this is often a rhteroic used by the far right to try mask their policy of complete racial exclusion as merely 'opposition to uncontrolled mass migration'. so when people do call them out for the shitty racist policy that it is, they'll just pretend that they are crazy for saying this us racist cause they were merely 'opposed to mass uncontrolled migration' when there has been none of that.
look, tbh i am prbly what the media you consume would portray as pure evil, but if you ever want actually engage with a real one in logical discussion and see for yourself that i am indeed not the devil, rather than just eating up the strawman they feed you, i am happy to talk more these stuff if you are interested
the audacity of Russell Brand telling people who to watch when he was the monster under the bed
Nigel tells the truth middle class working man 🇬🇧
This is what happens when Jeremy kyle's cancelled
Tom Oreilly
😂😂😂
Tom Oreilly 🤣🤣🤣🤦🏿♂️
Ha ha ha quality remark
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Ha lets all get stoned and or drunk
I must have gone through scores of videos of Nigel Farage speaking and I've yet to hear him say anything racist. And yet he continues to be labelled a racist. The most he has said is that he's advocating responsible immigration policies. Control of one's own borders and responsible immigration sounds perfectly normal and reasonable.
I am so pleased that some of the audience were sensible and strong enough not to fall for that loopy comedian Brand and his entertainers spin on things.Brand claims to know all kinds of secret financial 'where the money is hidden' and 'trust me mate', but in reality comes across more as someone who's just got out of rehab and is struggling with his own demons. I would not have commented so harshly but for him attacking Farage in a personal way. He was right out of order.
Indeed the 'racist' term is bandied about so much these days that I believe it's almost completely lost it's real meaning.I recently watched, what I think was old footage of Douglas Murray, on the subject of very high levels of immigration into the UK. In the audience were of course, what appears to be your usual Muslim characters, and it wasn't long before one quipped 'racist' as Murray was talking. I've seen and heard it quite often, so no real surprise. What really shocked me though, especially considering that Race wasn't even being discussed, was how the audience sat there and allowed this knob to get away with it. It was as if they were drugged into a sense of simply accepting and being docile. I would have expected more of a 'get your hand off it mate' response from someone. But nope.........meek, mild, polite and compliant to the end.
Yeah, as if Islam is a race.
These people have nothing, that's why it's always the appeals to emotion ("ooh, I'm so scared of Nigel Farage and you ought to be frightened of him too!"), baseless attacks on character (as opposed to the arguments being put forth by that character), and claiming "offense" at the most innocuous shit imaginable in order to demonise and dehumanise their opposition, dimming the cognitive dissonance and letting the ends justify whatever horrible, heinous means might cross their fancy.
Brand is nothing but a vacuous demagogue and you were completely justified in being so harsh. His sort go about crowing about how virtuous they are without any _actual_ standards or principles to refer to (just whatever _feeels_ nice. To them. At the moment), and instead equipped with a furious countenance and personal attacks. Bitch plz. Either practice what you preach or, like the man said, _stop preaching._
I'm getting sick of the anti-wealth angle, too. Any ill of the world you care to name, these people will say that the rich (like Brand..?), the successful, the dedicated, are the problem. And no, I am *far* from wealthy myself, I'm just not on board w/tribalistic discrimination, of any sort.
As you said, he implores us to "trust" that he knows what he's talking about, while giving us every reason to believe he does *not.*
Calling someone a 'racist' is a great strategy to limit debate and examination of fact, gain the moral high ground and force your opponent into a position of self defence. Fairly common tactic from the left...
mr7wi Surely it's well past time for average people to call 'enough' on the stupid Racist easy points. It's made especially worse when it's actually not even about race.
It is called left wing poker -they have the racist card, the sexist card, the islamophobic card and the homophobic card. If they don't like what someone is saying then they try to silence them with these labels.
Matey's wonky eye reaction at 1:51 listening to Brand is just perfect.
HAHAHA!!!!
How right Nigel was!
It shows you the intelligence of the public by applauding Brand!
Maria Gled the audience is cherry picked
@@oliverheber599 That bag with the blue hair. WTF??
Don't you mean lack of intelligence? Brand is an irritating cretin
Brands face reminds me of a football . Every time I see it I wanna kick it
Yes a heroin addict has a plan.
Farage crushed Brand... How incredibly unsurprising
Hmm, I must have watched a different clip than you...
+the shadow knows you sound like one of those idiots who thinks it's shines out of yours
+the shadow knows you sound like one of those idiots who thinks it's shines out of yours
Russell may be many things but he is one thing, an ex addict a man that hit the worst parts of his life and faced his daemons a working man a man that had nothing but got some great breaks in life. He is the voice of the people that had nothing he is the voice of the true reality of this country and EEC.
Farage on the other hand was part of the machine that made my country something I'm ashamed of, i feel saddened to be British we are becoming an abhorrent nation of toff nosed racists that think we are better than everyone else .
If it continues i hope the more enlightened people of this country leave and the rest of you ... well i hope this country degenerates in to poverty so you have an idea of what some of the poorest nations which you see yourself above have to deal with.
Maybe the drugs just took him to another place where he can shill for the globalists agenda while acting like he cares about people he doesn't know.
5:10 Nigels face 😂
Toady little scumbag
Russel definitely changed his views since then,
The beauty of constantly questioning everything,
Cheers to both Mr farage and Mr brand
Did anyone else see what the guy in the audience did with his eyes at 1:52 😂
Hes got some wham eyeballs
1;:50
It's the woman to his left who'll be forever burned into my memory. The creepy head turn, the thin lips, that face she pulls.
If she's ever out of work, they'd definitely have her as an extra on Eastenders. And are we to assume that she's somehow related to the guy with the eyes to her right?
Talk about the gruesome twosome.
@SHAKESPEAR i cant stop watching it.
😂😂😂😂😂
Farage had a good point for him to respond to, and all I heard in the first 3 minutes was brand hurling personal insults at farage instead of actually answering the question
Russell even admitted that there are loop holes but didn't specify on if it would be possible to fix
Tagapiou Playz Thats all the socialist left are capable of.
Aslo Olsa Socialist left 😂 The same could be said for the right; all we hear is immigration and the evils that it creates. And yet, the same energy wasn’t applied to the government in bailing out the criminal bankers in the 2008 financial crash. 642,000 people migrated to the UK last year, while 402,000 emigrated, which is 240,000 people net. Are you telling me that’s putting a strain on our economy? The fifth largest in the world? Immigration isn’t putting a strain on British workers; austerity measures implemented by the Tory government are putting a strain on Britain.
I noticed the same thing. Nothing but ad hominem from Russell.
you sound triggered
Must agree that Russell and Nigel both have a point , there is a lot of issues that need to be addressed.
Farage is a rat if you’re a poor person. If you earn less than 100k a year after year Nigel farage is your enemy.
That was one of Russell's conquests shouting at nigel no doubt 😅
The expression at 1:51 is priceless
🤣
Oh and the blue hair yells racism. How original.
STAACK J YES YOUR BANG ON
WELL SAID
If he is racist dont it mean a lot if someone says no to immigrants?
she's a communist loon, Bunny La Roche her name is look her up.
Racists are abrigementing elements in there crainum
Russell Brand is a danger to the establishment because he’s a great orator and can communicate to the masses his truth..and dare I say it..the truth.
Thing is with Brand Brand….he’s never had the BALLS to talk immigration….
He picks east targets that are hated by most people etc
Shut it everyone and listen to David Attenbrough.
Right or left listen to big Dave A
The left seems pretty much on point with Big Dave. The right, not so much
Lolll
Listen to his views on over population? Care to tell everyone immigrant or local to have far fewer children? Ignore the point mate 🙄 core of whats wrong now!
Black, white, blue, purple, Christian, atheist, Buddhist, human, llama, turkey, zebra, , whatever you are, listen to David Attenborough. We gotta fix the planet for its too late. It’s all well and good arguing over a political believes but there won’t be a government if there isn’t a planet left
This is why aliens don't want to talk to us.
theres a alien in the audience.. go to 1:50 see the women look at the man on her right and watch his eyes....
@@Justyoutubeshortz An 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers' type moment.
Rager how did you notice that
@@Justyoutubeshortz I don't know whether to think he has problems if you're right but I want to believe you are. Jheeze
@@pariah0294 They were both exasperated at having to listen to Russell's glib idiocy. He simply has a particularly wonky eyeroll.
Both sides had some fair points but it divulged into an argument rather than a discussion
Nigel speaks common sense.
I wanna see this debate again based on the Pandora papers revelation!!!!!
Back when question time was good
Russel seems like a child here compared to how he is today.
Just cannot take
Brand seriously ever since he and Jonathan Woss publicly humiliated Andrew Sachs Grand Daughter ....true colours on display that day.
Russell brand.... why does he have authority to speak about anything???
Nigel Farage... Why does he have authority to speak about anything???
Because he’s a powerful figure politically... a businessman, and smart. no matter what you think of him that much is true. That’s a lot more than can be said about the D class comedian/“former” drug addict.
Manuel Kreuzberg first off I have 4 kids (daughters), second, I never said you need to be rich and powerful to voice your opinion... I simply explained why Nigel’s remarks hold weight considering he is very involved and wields considerable power and influence regarding this topic at hand while Russell is a junky that isn’t involved at all...
this is like watching a debate about the ethics of stem cell therapy for neurodegenerative diseases between a neurosurgeon and a plumber...
Manuel Kreuzberg no that’s not what I said, I just said not all opinions or analysis are of equal value. The fact Nigel understands trade, pushed for Brexit, and is a politician gives him some authority... not his wealth.
Here’s another great example... I’m American so I would wager that your opinion on this particular subject is actually of more value than mine because I have no say in what your country does, and it has extremely minimal effect on my life if any.
Yeah.....how come someone artistic and intelligent is making sense....and saying Corporate power can't be trusted...
Brand always makes it personal and emotional because he doesn’t have command of the facts.
He has the vegan soy boy syndrome but cannot grasp the heart of the cabbage and deal with its core heart layers of its Economic powers.
People determine facts. It's not what u know but who u know, and depending on who u know what u say becomes fact
Brand is 100% cancer.
@@keithprater2011 Umm .. think I agree. A lot of fact is really opinion. Reality is fluid and negotiable.
@@doyoumind9356 for instance, NASA can say that the moon is made of rock salt and we all will accept it as fact because NASA said it, we as people only apply critical thinking and skepticism to those who they aren't familiar with or Don trust
Nigel Farage isn’t actually blaming the immigrants though is he …he’s calling out powerful people who back mass immigration so they can have more control over the way the nation thinks and acts politically and so they can have cheaper labour. Ironically Brand dislikes these people also. It’s not about hating immigrants it’s about asking whether or not we need them and finding ways of existing as much on our means as we can and not relying on others. In doing so we become stronger as a nation and less dependent on globalism, the eu, and various NGOs for guidance. Again ironically Brand has begun to criticise globalism on his wanky RUclips channel.
The rich and powerful have boiled the frog on immigration for decades with the support of their lackeys in entertainment and media.
Make no mistake, these policies are hugely destructive and that is the intent - to break down social fabric to make people easier to control. Every year the numbers increase and anyone who raises the slightest concern face the chorus of ‘RACIST!!!”. Shame on these people who have facilitated this crime under the false auspices of humanitarianism and moral superiority.
What a Wonderful debate! Thank you, Blessings... 💜
Dyed blue hair screaming ‘racist’ - imagine my surprise
Blue hair, antifa not surprised
Ad Hominem from the left in the face of facts
I mean, he is a racist
@@eeZcrew How is he a racist?
@@colinfraser8317 gal-dem.com/a-complete-history-nigel-farages-political-sins/
Where’s Nigel Farage now... I wonder if he has an HGV license.
Sorry it's LicenCe. Grrrrr!!
He’s in my iPad advertising financial services. I didnt ask him to come here but I want to send him back.
He's invested in Lorry services and Petrol companies
Living in Germany i imagine. His mate Andrew Neil likewise comfortable in South of France. Living life brexit syle.
He has moved onto the next cash cow.
We are always on Nigel Farages’ side ALWAYS
Listening to Mr Brand speak these days he sounds like a completely different person we see here.
He might be a different person. We've never seen the original Joe Biden since he allegedly got elected. Some think latest Brand is a replacement 😳
Because he is a righwing grifter nowadays. He made the jump from being a liberal hippy to a conservative in just a couple years. He is not to be trusted at all !
BBC audience 89% lefty 11 % middle too right . How unusual
Thats sadly not only in britain... check sweden (i live here) and ull think u live in a lefty covert dictatorship
@@Tombombadillo999 Ja, riktig irriterande...
The majority of the questions. 3/4 were seemingly right wing. What are you talking about mate?
@Jeremy Horne But left wing is nothing to do with race? Hahaha
Your understanding of the word ‘too’ is usual* 🤣
As hectic as this got, I think both sides had good arguments, minus the 1920s bank robber that started yelling lol
You can always rely on the Blue Hair to cause havoc.
1920’s bank robber 😂😂😂
And look what's happening now!
Question time used to be EPIC! That purple haired woman. 🤣
Brand rightly points out issues about austerity, tax fiddling etc. - just absolutely nothing to do with the question (immigration)
Because he's go no actual answer that he can back up with facts
Well, here's Russell's argument that I understood from this debate.
1) The services like NHS, Education etc should be manned adequately for such big but also prosperous country, like Britain;
2) These services are being underfinanced, especially after the crisis of 2008;
3) The fact that there is more demand for these services, than supply, the shortage appears and people feel that it is due to immigration;
4) However, makes an argument Russel, if there was enough funding, there would have been enough of these services for everyone, so take the money from the big fat cats in the City.
P.S. I think that, despite the valid points that Russell made, exponential immigration of 2000s would have made an average folk to feel the stretching and the unavailability of the services named above regardless of the amount of money made available for them.
Britain will do great after Brexit!
@@romchiks -excellent points.. I agree -the debate on immigration is a lot more nuanced than "no borders-come one come all" from Brand or "keep everyone out" from Nigel- the problem with it is people don't speak just about numbers but bring the emotion of the Racial debate into it
@S MM some may have done -this statistic is disputed- but a large majority of immigrants are in low skilled jobs paying little or no tax
@S MM -I'm more seeing the big picture - a lot of immigrants are unskilled and esp. if they arrive "illegally" (I know this is a disputed term) they often don't even speak English.Surely one of the goals of Brexit is that we can control who enters the U.K and thus can hopefully encourage those who's skills are needed,, otherwise it's just an open door - then why have any legal immigration rules at all- anyone from anywhere can come here for whatever reason they fancy - certainly very virtuous but not exactly practical... plus there is a serious environmental case that the UK is already way over-populated and that it should be no more than 20m to be sustainable.. mind you the whole planet is grossly over-populated so we're prob.screwed anyway
This isn't Question Time....this is Jeremy Kyle :-/
***** The guy with the "walking stick" is the brother of a UKIP MEP.....
i100.independent.co.uk/article/question-time-man-who-left-brand-speechless-a-ukip-meps-brother--x1Ji9x57Kl
Brand is right! Greedy corrupt polititicians not immigrants that are ensuring your suffering.
LOVE RUSSELL TAKE A HEART OF GOLD TO SPEAK THE TRUTH. HE TRYING TO WAKE US UP TO THE TRUTH.
RUclips is amazing. Gets me to watch a debate between 2 people for whom I have absolutely no regard.
Exactly, I can't stand either of them
Whilst having a shit lol
Question Times a bloody joke
When Russell Brand was talking like that on Question Time, the BBC and the rest of the MSM choose to overlook his Sexual Adventures. Now he's become a married man with two daughters, and his politics have moved to the right, the MSM use his past to silence him... 🤔 Russell's sexual adventures were happening when he appeared on Question Time.
Glad Russell now understands division is the goal
7 minutes and Brand still didnt answer the question??
He answered it many times. Let the rich pay and not blame immigration for everything.
@@liamgbooth No he didn't!! Is Britain overcrowded was the question?? and he didn't say yes or no🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂
@@bilko777 All politicians appeal to emotion first, reason later.
Human beings are emotional entities, they cannot be separated thank God.
Even if we increased the wealth of the working man by blocking out immigrants, we still have corporate entities and 'bankers' to contend with just now with a wearied conscience.
Ofcourse he did, over and over again but all the while you've had a different tune playing in your head so you never heard him!
@@michaelfarr1061 He literally says Farage is wrong by screaming "yes!" to Nigel's second question "Do you think I'm wrong in thinking the country is overcrowded?"
RUclips recommended this to me in 2021. All it did was make me nostalgic
Was good debate ,
How far Russel has changed over the years, he has really grown
I really get tired of these racist this and that people.
I'm Dutch. In the eighties we had Janmaat in parlement. He stated full = full. Well, a cordon sanitair was the reaction.
Now we live with billions of money that goes to outside Europe as welfare money. And God knows why. Women in Morocco who have mortgages because of Dutch welfare money. We have Moroccan mob in Amsterdam. We have succeeding generations of unemployed foreigners. We have corrupt people from East Europe who parasite on our society. The government (which means mind control in Latin, by the way) spent billions on intercultural integration. Which did not succeed at all.
And if somebody says here, well, stop this. If you have a Moroccan passport and has an arm length police record, then give us back your Dutch nationality and off you go. Bye bye. The jails in Holland are over crowded with people who have obviously no little wooden shoes in their genes.
And what is the reaction of those people who screwed their heads over left in their rectum? Racism.
Since when are Moroccans, Surinamers, East Europeans, etc. a race?
They just have a culture that doesn't fit. Go away. And if they have left we've still some issues with our own scum and Wall Street cronies and their pit dark long term satanic plans.
... yeah, like I'm impressed by waffling what the idiot box brings in the living room.
The EU is a fascist project by the guys from the Bohemian Grove and the Bilderberg group, o well informed brainiac.
It's meant to start up world domination by a select group of Wall Street cronies.
I mind my own garden. I'm a vegan. I'm thrifty with resources. I commit no crime. I do mind life. But I couldn't care less for all those parasites that were welcomed by my government. I need to live well.
Hugh Jones These Eastern European countries were doing alright until all their skilled labourers moved west. It's all relative, their GDP was lower, but before they joined the common market, everything in their countries was cheaper so it didn't matter. There are much better ways of helping a country develop than simply subsidising them!
Hugh Jones
So how does taking money of one group help another. You are a classical communist. And can you explain what you mean by right wing.
Yes I've been to Amsterdam and I was not the beautiful native people trying to sell me drugs on the street.
Hugh Jones The poorer parts are going to catch up are they? Hows that going to happen when the people who make the economy leave the country? When the people who have been educated leave the country there is no one there to make money to educate the next generation. Your idea is very short term and only really benefits the employer who is looking for cheap labour.
Russell Brand can barely string together a sentence. What does a comedian know about politics...
Russel Brand has dedicated his life to politics the last 5 years. It's his focus now ... probably a lot more than you mate
@@timdyton7752 you sound as delusional as brand is!!
@@R3GTLEE no you say it as like he wouldn't know anything about politics because he is a comedian but that's not true. He is also an activist so he is heavily involved in politics and probably has a lot more knowledge than you!
Just because he’s a comedian doesn’t mean he can’t have an opinion/an input into politics.
Russell Brand is not a comedian, let's get that straight.
Excelsior Nigel Farage, EXCELSIOR‼️👍👍🎯🎯
Russell Brand is gormless.
Can't Stand the arse face.. horrible voice too
A good swift kick in the balls might normalize his voice.
Isn't he the one that told some fellow on the air that he shagged his grand daughter.
Russell Brand is a that!
lmao, he drives you guys crazy and I love it.
Nothing says I'm a screaming left wing nut case like having fake colours in your hair and eye piercings. I'm coming for you farage, she probably had a day pass to watch QT. If she can't act like a civilised member of society and give a proper argument she doesn't have to right to have screen time. No argument and no manners. A total mockery of the working class
Why do you think it is important about her appearance? Why do you see so much difference between her and the man who decided to shout and stamp and make as much noise as possible? The people on the panel are in the position to set examples, and Russel showed Empathy and understanding to the man who was rude to him. I think Farage was far less civilised towards how he treated the woman who was rude to him. Its easy to see things how we want to see them and think thats how it is, but see how easy it is for it to be put another way?
Whereas Farage's pals murder MPs. Easy to caricature voters isn't it?
working class? with blue hair and piercings she's never worked a day in her life!
Music lolli she literally threatened him, that’s illegal and inappropriate
Funny how Russell Brand had completely changed his tune nowadays
Russell Brand, lord protector of the weak and vulnerable.
12 years ago the council list in my local town had a waiting list of 2000 local families in need of affordable housing. So the local authority sold off some land in order for a new estate to be built with space for social housing.
Also 15 years ago the local primary school was going to be shut down due to lack of need for it, so parents campaigned and got it stopped and it stayed open.
Never any lack of school places and you could get a gp appointment within 24 hours.
Roll on 15 years and the social housing built to cater for the local 2000 families is saturated with immigrants and there is no room in the schools and it can take a month to get an appointment at your gps.
Russel brand is lucky enough to have access to private schooling, private doctors and not have to live amongst it like others do. He just doesn’t understand.
the problem with this is that he is right, there is budget for this, the country is not overwhelmed by overpopulation it is just poorly managed with assets being poorly distributed, the blame should not be with the immigrants but the elites who shelter money and fail to pay taxes while the working class do, take Boris who has just given all mps except cabinet members a lower tax rate
now you know how the rest of the world feels when you looted their countries.
So the ones that are saying we should have unlimited immigration which will require us to build 200,000+ houses a year to house them, are the same ones saying we need to cut our carbon emissions to zero in 30 years time and also protect our wildlife.
How true this was but ppl will not say it the country is in so much debt and we paying 7mil a day for migrants sort this problem and look at the money we will save
....I wonder if Brand has apologized to Nigel yet?
Asia for the Asia, Africa for the Africans, White countries for everyone.
Saudi Arabia? LOL
Says who?
There's a country in Africa where the leader is Indian. No one gives a shit
Because you fucked up all the Asian and African countries
haha yes because Japan didn't completely wreck China for centuries or anything.
Tax payers and real full time working people suffer!
Hey Russel since you got lucky, instead of legislating wealth out of people's pockets( and i agree the richest ones do control the flow of wealth), go by example and become the ultimate Philanthroper, auction off all your assets, take a minimal salary, build a children's hospital on your land for kids affected by first cousin marriages, live in a small apartment on the land(for which you will pay rent), sell all your cars except for a van and an electric bike, which you will share with migrant, as well as your apartment , where you will live with 2 migrant families.. and a bus pass.. oh no private doctors, or dentists, just nhs provided health care, your family members must do the same, as they benefit from your wealth..
Self imposed austerity would be a shining example of doing more than token virtue signalling, and this example would be a shining light to other mega wealthy to do the same ,social pressure, and boycotts of their business' make them face ruin unless they give up like you did.. That would make more sense than legislating money out of the middle class, and destroying the tax base.. welfare cant' fund the nhs, ...
Islam has rules that dictate the rich must donate a certain amount of their wealth to the poor, huge social pressure to do it, and if you skimp or cheat, god help you , nobody will do business with or associate with you, it's part of Sharia, perhaps it can be adopted into the Uk's legal system.. would love the flow of huge sums of money controlled by religious scholars with zero Transparency..
Anyways think about itcome back to the fold and live like us.. since you seem to advocate for this life style.. save the planet with your shining example ..
Everyone suffers BUT immigrants
John Smith where did you get that conclusion
@@popeygaming6560 seen it.
@@popeygaming6560 vast majority of immigrants are treated like royalty. You see it differently????
Brexit happened and there still is an issue with congestion, still an issue with GP's etc. How did Brexit resolve that? What happened to all these British hard workers, complaining about Eastern Europeans taking their jobs? They're still sitting at home claiming the dole and have no intentions to work.
You are right. Nothing has changed. UK Employment Law even weakened after Brexit.
800 British hard workers were sacked without consultation by P&O Ferries in 2022.
Yes, scapegoat the British natives on their apparent laziness for the issues in the health and low-skilled labour industries. Your same illogical cum hoc ergo propter hoc can equally be applied to how immigration has continued at a steady vast rate, driving wages down and catapulted British society into havoc, reducing quality of life with the increase in crime. You cruelly fantasise about raising your fancy economic statistics by ignoring fundamental societal problems.
Because the immigration policies haven’t changed, the Tories are too gutless. Also if the economy is going down the toilet then jobs are lost. You two definitely aren’t rocket scientists.
@@mitbrille to nearly be replaced with cheaper foreign labor
'Brexit happened' ... only in name; don't believe me, come to London to see for yourself ... many of parts of London are now ghettos thanks to the unrestricted tide of immigrates - documented, and undocumented - that are here milking the system. Hence why an increasing number of the indigenous population have fled in order to live in places that do not resemble third-world hellholes.
Kinda interesting to think that they’d probably be very friendly and almost on the same general side today 😂
Brand finishes by saying "I know what we've gotta do" but he is always scarce on the detail when it comes to how to do it.
I think he was pretty clear? Redistribution of wealth. He has said this in most of his interviews and debates and is correct. Big corporations are protected by politicians in power and what happens is a circle of wealth is created between the rich corporate entities, bankers and politicians. Barely any of it goes to the underserved lower class...
+TheCanadasian1 sounds like communism mate. Stop trying to drag every one down to your level as that's not very good for encouraging an innovative and productive society. Instead of disrupting the Wealth evenly, why not use it to invest in better facilities and upgrading infrastructure.
+TheCanadasian1 The real problem is that they even need to be represented in the first place.
He actually isn't - maybe you do not listen.
@@bennconner1195 POV: you don't know what communism is
Always trust a screaming person with blue hair.
Never trust a person who judges a book by its cover.
Fuck off ya conservative trash. Nobody's listening to your judgemental gibberish anymore
@M Bryant And you deducted this insight from what, exactly? Because from where I'm standing there was no punchline. Just judging
@@matthewmalpeli its a joke. I'm calling it based on action and joking based on generalization. Having to explain that you treat each person on their own characteristics is or should be a no brainer.
@M Bryant Argument from common sense is a logical fallacy. relying on the vague notion of ‘obviousness’, which means something like ‘what we perceive from personal experience’ or ‘what we should know without having had to learn.’ In other words, common sense is not necessarily supported by evidence or reasoning. As such, beliefs based on common sense are unreliable.
The arguments I've made here are not petty, they are logically consistent and based on evidence from observable reality.
Would you like to try that again? This time without the condescension?
@@SoonMrWick I've got a better joke for you. Always trust a pound shop Enoch Powell in a Saville Row tailored suit bought off the proceeds of banker donations.
Much funnier
Valid points from both sides.
It is obvious that there is a limit to how many people you can fit in any space.
Russell Brand is the kind of man who speaks very strongly of things he knows nothing about.
Even in his book, "The stock market is a lot of bollocks!"... Following page; "I don't actually know anything about the stock market"...
His channel is the same- full of preachy, wordy bollocks with no gravitas or feasible soutions, and the minute someone tells him to go put his mouth where his money is and actually enter the political arena and stand he pulls out the old "I ain't doing it, I’m just a comedian me, mate" or "nah I'd become one of 'em" in his mockney accent. His channel isn't about sincerely helping people it's about getting patted on the back and staying in the spotlight.
@@EvilKris Its his hypocrisy that irritates me more than anything. During that full interview he criticised everyone there for having money, ignoring the fact that he himself was by far the richest man at the table.
All his argument are emotion based with no real depth. But then again, an idiot is a genius to another idiot.
Don't tell me you wasted your money to buy his shit.
@@craiggraham719 I would put him as a big hypocrite. I wouldn't say so much that he's a complete dumbass. Though I wouldn't say he is a genius either.
@@craiggraham719 he wasn't critising them for having money, he was critising them for there prosperity whilst the poorer suffer the consequences
Who the hell is the guy with this funny high voice?
hes a legend! Russell Brand
He is called russell brand I believe it's in the title
Spicy 🥵🔥
We gotta watch him
Honestly the government and there cuts are causing issues
Edit 'their' not there. Sorry I can't help it. :(
As I've always said it's not the man in the street we've got to beat,
It's the shower in power
Exacty. But as soon as you tackle the exploitation of mass uncontrolled migration and the effect it has on the poorest you get attacked for doing so.
I wonder what Russell would make of these comments today? 🤔
All of the meadows I played in as a child have been concreted over for housing, the what was small market town I live in is now huge, full of foreigners and has a huge crime rate, fact
Brand isn't a smart guy. He uses big words out of context which can only mean he thinks he's a lot smarter than he is, much like his supporters. Pick an interview and have a dictionary to hand and you will see what utter nonsense he talks.
james lloyd He isn't smart? What would you define as smart? Writing a book? Making films? Building a community following of millions of RUclips? Or do you define smart as speaking in a posh accent and being mean to everybody.
No, I would define smart as having a higher than average intelligence.
There might be some correlation between youtube followers and intelligence but I'll leave you to apply the logic to that one.
Don't bother me with stupid comments like this again.
james lloyd What method are you applying to measure Russell's intelligence? The old dictionary technique you mentioned? Sounds revolutionary. No pun intended.
james lloyd If you need a dictionary to understand what he's saying then I suggest the problem is you have a low intellect and not that he uses big words.
You think I have sat there deciphering what he says with a dictionary? It was a suggestion to people like you as it might open up your eyes to how much of a moron he is. I know enough of the words he uses to know he uses them out of context which means neither he nor his followers understand them. He works on the principle of "bullshit baffles brains" and its working like a charm.
If you believe he's a smart guy then I feel sorry for you. Outside of his little cult following he's ridiculed the world over.
You know he's in business with the people he claims to detest right? Companies house will tell you all you need to know. I'll even give you a reg number of one of his companies to get you started - 06843671. If you understand company structure you will see he is quite legally reducing his tax liability. Nothing wrong with that but it does make him an almighty hypocrite. Have a look and come back to me when you realise your idol is a phoney. It might take a while as he has fingers in many pies besides this one. As a percentage of income, I pay more tax than he does. Forgive me for thinking that the guy is a complete tosspot.
This "revolution" is nonsense and he knows it, but the followers have brought the books so its achieved its primary aim.