1. The Nazi regime was defeated by USA and UK. Without US help even the soviet Union would have fall during WW2. 2. The Soviet Union was collapsed due to Hungary and Poland long and bloody straggle. Just take a look on Hungarian anti-Soviet revolution of 1956 and the Polish people fight during all 70th. Salvini never would have sad such a stupidity!
@@Martin6465 after what Gabor, rightly, said. Just one thing, is not Salvini, but Tajani. And,as an italian, I just can say that Farage is completely right. Just hope that Italy will take the same decision that England took as soon as possible
@@MrWolf-xk8sl - Without the American aids and also weapon transport the Russian would have lost that war. In think the Communism was very similar to Nazism. Stalin also killed many Jews in Soviet Union.
@@lorenzopalpacelli2245 guarda che lo stai dicendo di uno che parla a livello professionale Spagnolo e Francese, e che in Inglese comunque sa parlare decentemente. Tajani è tutto fuorché ignorante.
@@typerj.simpson6519 Dal punto di vista grammaticale il tuo discorso non fà una grinza ,ma dal punto di vista di uno storico Tajani è un emerito ignorante e dice un mucchio di castronerie .....
@@mariorossi9944 vergognati Mario Rossi, il latino rimane e rimarrà una lingua imponente e solenne, per non parlare della bellezza e della miriade di motti e aforismi che se ne possono ricavare
@@flusdock8526 Mi schiero indubbiamente con il suo punto di vista. Il latino è una lingua endemicamente solenne e legata ad un passato di glorie. Sopratutto è la base dell'italiano che parliamo tutti i giorni.
Yeah, just a classic establishment nonsense slogan. EU was born in 1992, before we had just economic agreements between european countries (carbon and steel). NATO was the only peace keeper
@@gustavschnitzel Open a book you are so ignorant. > 1952: carbon and steel economic community (nothing related to a peace keeping) > 1992: EU, but still not able to keep the peace, because it's not a federal government NATO was and is the only peace keeper in Europe
@@theweb3182 No, you are the ignorant one. You don't understand what peacekeeping means. You don't understand how a war is prevented. The carbon and steel economic community was meant to share the resources that are important to conduct a war. And if these resources are shared, it becomes very unrealistic that the countries who share it, will fight each other. Of course the EU keeps peace. When was the last time that EU-members fought each other? Never. Open a book yourself before you call someone ignorant, fool.
You just proving that I'm right. 1945 NATO, after just council of Europe, so nothing military able to keep the peace. 1992 EU but up to today continue to be not a military peace keeper. Just NATO kept and keeping the peace with military presence
Che risposta del cazzo... Quindi se rido alle cazzate di salvini vuol dire che lui ha ragione? Come fai a dire che l Europa ha sconfitto nazismo e comunismo senza far ridere la gente? Che pagliacci che siete...
@@freedomordeath89 prima di tutto stai calmo che nessuno qui ha detto di essere d'accordo con il significato del video. Io non mi troverei mai d'accordo con uno che ride in faccia a qualcuno che sta esponendo un opinione. È una mancanza di rispetto spaventosa e chiunque si atteggi così ha meno diritto a portare avanti una carriera politica che qualcuno che ha proposto un'idea non condivisibile.
Italian generals riding around with ss Nazi generals when they was winning the war and then when the Germans was losing the war the Italians turncoat the Germans in favour of the usa and uk these words came from my 98year old Uncle
if you are going to try to contradict me by "deny the truth of (a statement) by asserting the opposite"it was my Uncle, not my grandad ! and he was there was you ? has the last four years of bios Misinformation, lies and media spin and forty seven years under the UE, learnt you leftys nothing, it is obvious the EU paid teachers have done there job well !
@werner van gelder Thattaboy! Change the subject! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!! What a tosser! Go back to the other thread we were both commenting on just moments ago, the one you bailed out of!
weener van gelder ... What a weakling you are ... deleting your posts and having my perfectly ok and honest responses removed with them on another thread today .... you aren't fit to call yourself a man and you aren't fit to clean my shoes. You are one of life's losers who feel the need to lie about their qualifications in an attempt to appear as clever ... I caught you out on that and you then deleted your posts .... priceless! Gutless tosser.
Not sure why you're laughing at the axis comment ML...perhaps a skewed vision of history. Poles and Czechs are independent states in an ill thought out union controlled once again by the Germans.
parlare del nazi-fascismo perché l'Italia e la Germania erano alleate, sarebbe come dire che la monarchia inglese e il capitalismo americano erano comunisti perche alleati di Stalin. (talk about Nazi-fascism because Italy and Germany were allies, it would be like saying that the British monarchy and the American capitalism were communists because allies of Stalin)
Farage non ha mai chiesto di entrare in Europa però. Forse intendevi che rappresentava un paese (UK) che tempo addietro chiese di unirsi alla CEE? Se sì, è vero che alla CEE volevano unirsi, ma evidentemente erano presenti notevoli perplessità sull'evoluzione di questa in UE che poi hanno portato alla scelta della Brexit. Resta il fatto che ridere in faccia a qualcuno mentre questo sta parlando sia maleducato, tuttavia, Tajani aveva detto una cazzata, non può esser stata l'UE a salvarci da comunismo e nazismo visto che all'epoca nemmeno era in progetto una UE.
Il Regno Unito, numeri alla mano, è cresciuto esponenzialmente proprio nel periodo in cui si è unito alla CEE, ma questo gli inglesi l'hanno rimosso in fretta. Le perplessità? Si, certo, ricordassero dov'era l'economia britannica prima di entrare nella CEE e poi ne riparliamo. Ora vedremo cosa sapranno fare da soli, ma non dimenticassero chi gli ha permesso di tornare ad essere un'economia sana. Ci vorrebbe una hard brexit affinché il buon Farage capisca il senso del termine "gratitudine"
@@LastViolator Che io sappia Farage si lamenta anche della poca democrazia della UE, su cui ha ragione e su cui ricordo avesse fatto molta campagna elettorale. Sulla questione economica hai ragione però, visto che andava storcendo i dati per far sembrare che l'UK sebbene contribuente attivo alla UE non ricevesse nulla indietro o che avesse altro che da perdere nel restare (cosa non vera). Secondo me avrebbe fatto meglio a lottare per democratizzare l'unione anzichè cercare di uscirne.
@@PRODAt3, è un discorso molto complesso, e tu stesso hai in parte centrato il punto. Ad un esame d'interpretariato nel 94 (attenzione all'anno..), il mio insegnante di francese ricordava come gli inglesi ce l'hanno per vizio il volersi sentire "diversi", a cominciare dalla guida a sinistra per finire alle loro unità di misura. Le lamentele britanniche ce le sorbiamo da decenni (la Thatcher diceva sempre "our money back") dimenticando chi gli aveva permesso di poter far crescere e prosperare la propria economia. Ora, è ovvio che far parte di una comunità implica la perdita di alcuni diritti: se entro in un club, devo accettarne diritti e doveri, giusto? Ora, la natura furbesca e quasi viscida dei negoziatori britannici si è pienamente vista quando, durante i negoziati brexit (ti rammento, NON ancora conclusi dopo 4 anni: ecco come l'avevano preparata bene certi irresponsabili, eh!) hanno inizialmente chiesto di poter far parte del mercato unico (i vantaggi) senza però stare alle regole della libera circolazione delle persone (i doveri)! Furbacchioni, o sbaglio? Loro ci possono invadere di merci, noi non possiamo manco andare a vivere in Inghilterra! Bene, io sarei per l'hard brexit con tanto di dogane e dazi in entrata come in uscita; poi voglio vedere a chi li vendono le loro merci questi furbacchioni... agli africani? A Trump? O sperano di fare alleanze con Russi e Cinesi? Che l'UE dev'essere rivista, ci sta, sono d'accordo. Ma non parliamo dei britannici, o forse dovrei dire degli inglesi e gallesi, visto che Scozia e Irlanda del Nord sono favorevoli in maggioranza all'UE. Il mio sogno? La disintegrazione del Regno Unito con uscita di scozzesi e nord irlandesi dal Regno Unito e il loro ritorno in Europa... allora si che vorrei vedere la faccia di quel grandissimo BUGIARDO di Farage (perché da come ne parli, sei cosciente di tutte le balle da codice penale che si è inventato per vincere il referendum - il re della fake news, quel viscido schifoso xenofobo).
@@LastViolator I negoziati sono stati anche ampiamente osteggiati dalla UE che va detto, sapeva che la May non intendeva guidare una Brexit e l'idea comune da entrambe le parti era tirarla alla lunga per poi fare un secondo referendum e rimanere in UE. Cosa che non sono riusciti a fare, democraticamente han fatto un voto ed è giusto rispettarlo, io son daccordo con Farage sul fatto che l'Europa non sia fatta bene e che non sia sufficientemente democratica, meno sul come ha deciso di impostare la campagna elettorale, però è anche vero che gli inglesi non si sentono europei ed hanno un eccezionalismo non da poco, il che da una parte non è un male per loro visto che la UE sta diventando uno strumento di supremazia tedesco, come la crisi attuale sta ben dimostrando. Mi aspetto che la UE non duri molto a questo punto, a causa di ciò che sta succedendo con la risposta europea al coronavirus cinese e mi auguro che se un suo successore dovesse venir creato possa esser fatto con gli strumenti di democrazia reale che auspicava anche Farage ma cui pesava troppo il culo darsi da fare per creare quando poteva.
@Boomer Galactica actually the universe happened when Chuck Norris sneeze and farted at the same time. This is why we have hypothesis of parallel universes
Penso che la figura dello stolto qui l'abbia fatta solo Tajani non conoscendo i fatti della storia. È vero, Farage ha sbagliato a ridere, ma ha perfettamente ragione perché i fatti sono fatti.
@@alessandrovitagliano7137 how is the EU great look at what has become the EU every country under there control (yes i said control) is going under dig a little deeper in those in control of EU you will see. you will lose your voice to vote or any kind of speech did you vote for these guys nope
Alessandro Vitagliano yes, it’s wonderful. So wonderful that the far right vote across Europe is increasingly massively since it’s freedom of free movement.
I totally disagree with Farage and his ideas, but it cannot be considered that "the two dictatorships have disappeared thanks to the European Union". Even in consideration of the important role of the EU in international relations, Tajani's statement was too simplistic and untrue compared to the complexity of the events that led to the end of the two dictatorships. On the other hand, the EU was officially born with the Maastricht Treaty of 1992, while the European Economic Community (EEC) with the Treaty of Rome of 25 March 1957. Both had little to do with Nazism, considering the inexorable decline with the end of the Second World War (1945) and the indispensable intervention of the United States. A completely marginal role also in the dissolution of the USSR. We agree on respect for opinions, but the story must be told objectively. And I say this as an Italian and a pro-European.
You are correct, and I think his real thought was something like this: the EU helped its members fight against renewal of dictatorships in the after war. But I agree if that was his thought, like I think, it was pretty badly stated. Farage could have made his point without being a c*nt though, but then again, it wouldn't be Farage. The president of the Parliament was right to scold him for his childish behaviour, even if he was wrong on the historical facts. Anyway, I think noone regrets Farage in Bruxelles.
As an Italian across the pond, I couldn't agree with you more. How long did Britain fight on her own, 8 months or so, against the Nazis? Churchill and Gorbachev my two favourite statesman from the last century.
Artful Dodger it’s clear that, historically, the Nazism and Comunism have been defeated by the Allies. What he said and meant it’s just that after the horrors of the war the European citizens wanted to establish mutual ideals of brotherhood and cooperation, to definetly bury all those nationalism feelings that led to the WW2 atrocities.
@@freedomordeath89 In the last 75 years since the end of world war II, the biggest 44 economies in the world have not been in conflict with each other. Such peace has not been seen since the fall of the Roman Empire, and that's a historical fact.
@@bramvanopdenbosch3743 I'm Italian, I'm european. I despise populists and I know that the EU brought economic prosperity and development. BUT I also have a history Phd and I know for a fact that this peace was brought by NATO and by the Pax Americana, not by the EU. I don't want to leave the EU, but the EU is not perfect, its a mess with 30 different states always fighting each others because they have different interest, the bruxelles burocracy is blind and not that effective. THE ONLY thing I like about the EU is the common currency and the common bank. I agree that my original comment was too harsh, it was a bad period in my life and in my country's history, now things are better and I can see more clearly. I was blaming many italian problems on the EU because my politicians lied to me back then. Now I am more clear minded. But I still dont like the political side of the EU, I like the "technical" institutions, the common research, bank, regulations etc, but it's far from being perfect. And I can still vouch that the EU has nothing to do with world peace, that's a USA achievement.
My Grandad was injured in WW1, in WW2 my uncle was killed in a Lancaster Bomber, and my Dad was in the RAF, this is a disgrace to all who died and fought to liberate Europe.
@@blitzwing1 every country that the British empire has colonised is doing far better now than they would do if we didnt. Slavery lasted less than 200yrs one of the smallest and least important slave trades in the world and is dwarfed in size in comparison to the slave trades we have in africa both back then and today. Colonisation was a peaceful process whitch is why despite possible killings or wars there has never been any evidence for the British carrying out a genocide at any point in history.
Qualcuno ha notato che assomiglia sempre più di faccia e di voce al Paolo Stoppa gerarchetto fascista (film Peppone-don Camillo). A Taja', but make me the pleasure!
E fai male. Tajani sarà un leccaculo di Silvio, ma Farage è un coglione bugiardo che ha raccontato l suo popolo che con la Brexit sarebbero diventati più ricchi. Oltre a tutto, dopo che è passato il referendum, si è andato a nascondere come un codardo e ha lasciato che gli altri si prendessero tutte le patate bollenti in culo. Ora torna, dopo aver fatto un disastro, e accusa altri di non essere in grado di rimediare alle sue cazzate. Un buffone in piena regola. E comunque fanculo Tajani.
@@enniodimauor7561 im sorry but being forcefully occupied for many a year after a war you got fucked in for seemingly no reason and then seeing your nation suffer, revolts brutally suppressed and the West watching helplessly of course the eventually freed soviet republics of Eastern Europe would rush to the EU. They were given a chance that their people had suffered and been murdered for on a platter.
EU and Europe are different things. The legal join is not the real join. After 1991, many ex URSS countries created social and work net with the EU. The reunion of Germany was the first "official" step of this process but it was not the only one. The CEE birth it's one of the many reasons why we are free and not under a communist dictator. This is a historical fact.
JonatasAdoM that makes absolutely no sense. He’s not telling him to be quiet in general, he’s telling him to be silent while he finishes his point and speaks in his allotted time period
@@Luna-nj9zd The duck is the country which ducked fighting for democracy in WW2 you prick! That was .. yes ... the fascist Italians who fought alongside Hitler in support of Nazism!
And you did! the European Community (formerly EEC) is a free trade community that forms one of the pillars of the EU. I don't know what country you're from so I don't know who proposed the treaty for the entry of your country.
The decision to join the EU comes from local governments, that the citizens elect and that are in charge to represent the willing of the people who elected them. That’s how politic works.
Cornelius Von Barron no, that’s how every government works. You elect someone to represent you and he makes decisions, whether you agree or not. If you agree you’re happy, if you don’t you’ll vote for the parties opposing those ideas or decisions.
Andrea leonti - Our politicians in the main only concentrate on domestic issues - as they should - europe is on the periphery of all debate, that's why the labour party increased it's vote share in the last election; it was nothing to do with europe. It's this diluting of democracy that people are rebelling against, I see your lessons from Tajani here, are bearing fruit.
If Taiani had respect for the place he occupies he would have to step down ..... he doesn't even know what respect is, his party in Italy was founded by a man named "Marcello dell'Utri" a mobster .... that's who we have in the European parliament
Some one pass that poor guy a time line of at least the last 100 years and then pass that same hand out to the majority of that room, it seems a lot of people have got their order of events mixed up. Even the EEC came after WW2.
Oh wait, does Tajani know that one of the most influental person who created EEC was Altiero Spinelli Italian communist, who was even political prisoner during facist regime?
Farage never said Britain won the war alone. He was challenging the Italian thicko who stated that the EU was responsible for driving fascism out of Europe. This guy is an unelected EU official with little knowledge of history. Farage put him in his place so don't try and twist the facts which are clearly there to be seen.
I don't think the EU is given enough credit for inventing penicillin, putting the first man on the moon or its greatest feat - beating Sonny Liston in 1964.
Italian generals riding around with ss Nazi generals when they was winning the war and then when the Germans was losing the war the Italians turncoat the Germans in favour of the usa and uk these words came from my 98year old Uncle
Why people don’t understand that Tajani said that “Europe defeated Nazism” means that thanks to Europe nowadays things like Nazism are almost impossible to take place (at least in European countries)
Thats your interpretation of what he said, most others seem to hear something very different. As farage said - disingenuous to allies such as the Americans. Europe didn't defeat Nazism alone. & If we're going to be totally correct some of Europe created it.
No, he clearly is a clueless idiot. He even claimed that communism in the Soviet Union ended when Eastern European countries joined the EU, which is idiotic since all of the Eastern European countries that are in the EU nowadays, joined after the Soviet Union ended.
@@theweb3182 nel 1950 nasce la Ceca, che é la prima comunità paraeuropea, il mercato europeo nel 58 con piena attuazione le 62,lumione europea nasce con il trattato di Maastricht nel 92,di certo non esiste da 70 anni, ma di sicuro da quando si é iniziato a vivere le cose in maniere più comunitaria, i conflitti sono diminuiti drasticamente.
@@ea635 Just figure out how could such an unfair deal called €urozone be trusted .... while one of the partners (Holland) is allowed acting as a fiscal paradise for top corporates Bruxelles keeps preaching strict austerity policy for the others :-) :-) :-) Does Mrs.Von der Leyen think we're a pack of idiots ? Greetings from Milan.
People who bothered to vote voted for the Meps, like in the UK parliament, and the commissioner has to be approved by the MEPs ,that doesnt happen in the UK parliament with regards to the head of the civil service so by that token the EU is more democratic than the UK 🤔
Tajani is mad! That's why the EU pays him big bugs. How much? Around 10k a month with only 15% tax. And a truckload of generous allowances. To keep your job, anyone would say the craziest stuff. Welcome to the EU! The civil servants heaven!
I know, as Italian I'm so sorry for the ignorance of a Mr. Bunga's MP, in the end this is the right CV for the EU presidency. Anybody know that before EU was just an economic treaty on carbon and steel, currently NATO continue to be the main pacekeeper
@@theweb3182 that is not true. European countries have been at war with eachother for all their existence, and no more since when te EU was formed. Plus It shurely did not end nazism, but it ended stalin communism for sure.
Many believe one of the major keys to success is waking up early each and every day. Having a head start before everyone else and being on step ahead at all times and fully prepared. When others are still sleeping you are already working.
Mr Tajani responds at interest of his master Berlusconi and at jewish lobbies of globalization, like Mr Geroge Soros who finances the import of africans in Italy. We in Italy now have a strange situation. Not left against right, but sovranist (left 5 stars and rght Lega of Matteo Salvini) against pro globalization (left partito democratico and rgiht Forza Italia of Mr Berlusconi). We know that Mr Soros finances the english party for a new vote on Brexit, because jewish lobbies as you know have many citizenship but always only one nation that's jewish nation, because jewish religion is also a nation. They are afraid of nationalism and want only open society with many religions and many cuture. Here in Italy with Berlusconi and others allied they control main streem in newspapers and brodcasting television, but on the socials Matteo Salvini succeed in all elections where he is present. Tehey tell him that he is fascist, but it's not true; he is only a nationalist like Garibaldi, Mazzini and others patriots of the 19Th century. democracy is the only way to rule. But the eurpean establishment wants create a monster with no national identity. Fascism and nazism were defeted by democracy of Britain, USA, and as well as by comunism dictature of Soviet Union as we know and Mr Tajani is a Billy Lier has to go back to school.
@rad4579 Why? Is it not true that the EU has guaranteed the longest peace period that Europe has never met? Is it not true that the UE made the huge contribute to the end of Soviet's Regime in 1991? Is it not true that the EU has avoided that new Hitler or Mussolini may get the power in their own nations? This the *truth* definetly, and I would like to say "thank you" to Mr Schuman and all other people who contribute to found and develop the EU along more than 70 years nowadays.
This comments area makes me want to throw up. Did Europe exist during World War II? Absolutely not. Does this mean it didn’t help eradicate fascism, Nazism and communism? You can believe this only if you haven’t studied. The idea of Europe, of collaboration and democracy, were and are fundamental to eliminating the nationalisms that are the cause of world wars and dictatorships. My political ideas are different from the Tajani ones, but in this case he is right. I would also like to remind you that Italians know that we were accomplices of the Nazis, but we also remember the partisans who, throughout Italy, died war on them. In Italy we had a Civil War!! I hope that the misunderstandings are due to translation, because in Italian the concept that Tajani expresses is clear. Sorry for my horrible english, I tried to do the best I can ITALIANO Questa area commenti mi fa venire voglia di vomitare. L'Europa esisteva durante la seconda guerra mondiale? Assolutamente no. Questo vuol dire che non abbia contribuito a sradicare fascismo, nazismo e comunismo? Lo puoi credere solo se non hai studiato. L'idea d'Europa, di collaborazione e democratica, erano e sono fondamentali per eliminare i nazionalismi causa delle guerre mondiali e delle dittature. La mia opinione politica è diversa da quella di Tajani, ma in questo caso ha ragione. Ci tengo anche a ricordare che noi italiani sappiamo di essere stati complici dei nazisti ma ricordiamo anche i partigiani che in tutta Italia gli muosero guerra.
@@cicciobenzina1962 I fatti della storia sono scritti nero su bianco, con milioni di morti alle spalle e tu pensi che le parole di un esponente politico del XXI secolo possano "cambiarli"? É chiaro che Tajani non parlava in senso letterale e Farage ride perché é l'unico in quella sala che non ci é arrivato. (O meglio, magari ci è arrivato e ride per fare scena, più probabile)
Ciccio Benzina grazie per aver risposto ma non mi trovo d'accordo con il tuo ragionamento alla 1984. Credo che sia ovvio dal suo discorso come Tajani non avesse intenzione di cambiare il passato, ma solo di rimarcare il ruolo europeo nalla eradicazione delle ideologie dittatoriali del novecento e la sua opposizione a quest'ultime. Trovo inoltre la reazione di Farage come un segno di estrema maleducazione: non condividere un opinione è sempre leggittimo, ma credo che sia essenziale mantenere un clima di rispettosa collaborazione anche nei confronti di chi ha colore o idee diverse dalle proprie; specialmente in parlamento dove si condivide il ruolo di rappresentanza del popolo e espressione del volere dello stesso. Farage avrebbe avuto la possibilità di ribattere anche senza quella sceneggiata.
I'm italian too and I can affirm he didn't say anything like that. He just said that thanks to the UE 70 years of peace were guarantied. And to be clear not all italians were fascist... Many were and still are antifascist. Maybe and just maybe countries like UK and many others should try not to be so close and full of themselves and should try to cooperate more with us.
@@freespeechisneverwrong9351 and I respect the choice that UK made... If you don't want to be a part of someting tha doesn't fits you it's ok... But thinking that you're better than us just because you left or just because we did some terrible mistakes 70 years ago it is disrespectfull for our generation and for all of them we lost along the way fighting against these horrible mistakes that all the countries in europe did in the 20th century. Ad to be clear too i want to say to Mr. Farage that in wwII we had thousands of lost lifes too so having 30000 british soldiers life on our country doesn't make him any better. And his laugh was just wrong and not to be done in that situation, in that place, with all those other countries watching.
@@federicogentile1576 No one thinks they are better than you. That’s not even mentioned. You are now making things up. The UK wants independence. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone thinks that a problem. Meanwhile the uk has every right to challenge an Italian on lies about the EU and the Second World War. In fact Farage did not claim that Britain saved Europe. He firmly stated that the US saved Europe. If you cannot take criticism then you shouldn’t fabricate a story which is untrue (lies).
Reading some of the comments, I realise there seems to be a misunderstanding. Mr. Tajani said the EU helped defeat the dictatorships of the 20th century: that is, for the most part, not factually true (the EU was born after the fall of nazi germany and the end of world war 2 and while I can see where he is coming from when he talks about communism in eastern Europe, it seems to me that the causes for the fall of the eastern block are a lot more nuanced). That said, I think the validity of the message still stands: the EU has defeated fascism, national socialism and communism because it has been able to marginalize nationalism and authoritarian ideals by creating a sense of common identity between european nations (which is sadly being slowly eroded by buffoons like Orban and, in a less human-rights-violating way, Farage and Johnson). Europe has never known a longer period of continuous peace and relative prosperity for the entirety of it's history and while other factors may have contributed to this outcome, the existence of the EU is certainly prominent among them. That is just my opinion and, while i cannot read in Tajani's mind, I think that is what he meant. Also, now that the UK is plunging ever deeper into the shitter, this clip looks more like the sinking of the Titanic, with the difference that the captain decided to abandon the ship. Just saying.
EU was born in 1992, before we had just NATO (military peace keeper) and economic european treaties on carbon and steel. Tajani is completely ignorant, like his party leader: Berlusconi
He was referring to the fact the EU has stopped the communist dictators by taking the eastern countries and forbidden the new nazis to rise again, this is not happening in usa for instance, just look at kkk, white supremacy and other junks that we don't have in the EU. Tajani was actually correct.
I recommend that all "Remainers" in the UK turn out at a Remembrance Sunday or Armistice parade and check out the medals the old boys are wearing, then think on what they went through to get them. No choice either conscription was in place as well as volunteering. God bless them all.
@@patrickmonkman8151 You say Farage is a fascist. Do tell me how you see him as a fascist, using as much detail as possible so that your claim is clear.
@@patrickmonkman8151 lol! A "fascist" arguing day in and day out for democracy and calling out un-elected leaders who have no accountability to voters (they are the real fascists).
I am from the US so I'm not up to date on the EU as most of you, what I don't understand is why some Britain feel that they need to stay in the EU Britain was once a world leader the most powerful country in the world I'm sure if Britain left the EU would prosper once again I have said many times I would love to see Fagage come Prime Minister of Britain just think what Farage and Trump could accomplish working together 👍
Trajani is wrong not only about the EU saving the world from communism but he is also wrong about the UK asking to enter the EU. The UK asked to join the "common market" which is a far cry from what we know as the EU.
@@darkspirit8247 No it isnt the common market in its original form was basicaly a trade deal to protect european farmers. The Eu was formed in 1993 by the maastricht treaty and is a political union aligning laws and regulation across states and collecting tax in the form of vat and duty.
Im glad the representatives of the UK in the EU parliament respect the USA as we respect them. Im proud that the UK is our greatest ally. EDIT: Thanks for 30 likes, I find it hilarious how people are getting mad about this comment 4 months after I posted it. EDIT: Thanks for 60 likes, I find it hilarious how people are getting mad about this comment 7 months after I posted it.
@@ilkrankavalierenekro56 While France may have saved our ass, the USA saved the UK twice. If it wasnt for us then the people of the United Kingdom would be speaking German.
@@sexyfiretoes8402 to a point yes not trying to downplay history but I think we could have survived with out the usa might take longer but Soviets would have pushed back german and europe may be communist but history is history no one can change it
Britain fought Italy and Germany for two years before The US entry, when every Continental nation, except Sweden and Switzerland were occupied. Only Poland gets a "Pass" for bein' occupied, given it's heroism against the'Blitzkrieg. Oh, about Britain, must also commend Canada and The Empire for their contributions to the defense of The Realm.
As an American listening to this... I hate the EU because independent countries shouldn't be controlled by Brussels which is what the EU is doing... France doesn't need the EU... Same goes for the British & any country... You can all make Independent trade deals that will greatly benefit your countries over relying upon trade with the EU... As far as ww1 & ww2 is concerned yes America played its part in helping to free Europe... No one should deny that. Yet every country played there part as well... Russia is the country that really broke Germany in WW2... If Germany never invaded Russia losing a million soldiers who knows how hard it would've been to defeat them... The USA did its part in giving the British what they needed in War materials to get by... We even gave Russia War Materials... The biggest part the USA played was fighting Japan.... You can hate America all you want but there is no denying the role they played in helping Europe in both world wars.
Never hated America but tge socialist element of the EU does. I'm hugely grateful & respectful to the role it's played as our ally in two horrific and bloody wars. I do fear though that we may be asking for their help again to keep the west free from radical Islam & Marxism which this bunch of EU cockroaches has imported or grown in our European nations.
What an unbelievable and narrow minded statement to make by Tanjani, and these are the people which have our future in their hands..... so the death of my uncle in France in ww2 is for nothing...........FFS......
The European Union was born in 1993. Before there was the EEC , which granted peace at least as much as the EU today, but didn't reduce the member states' sovereignty as the EU. Personally, I regret the EEC.
EEC and before that the European Common Market were only stepping stones to take us where we are today. It was a tactic they used . This is what they had in mind from the begiinning. and God knows where the rabbit hole will lead Certainly the destruction of Europe as we now know it, This is an evil institution worse than the Soviet Union. Had they proposed what we now have from the beginning nobody would have joined. I repeat the EU is an evil institution devised and ruled by the financial elite whose only concern is the New World Order.
Guy must still be pissed about what the Yanks did by showing up and bringing freedom to Europe back in the 40's or ....how his mom won't shut up about all the GIs she fell in love with!
Peace? How about: Armenia, former Yugoslavia, Ukraine, including the civil war in France and Ireland? It seems that this guy stuck his head in the sand since the second world war
why did he say "Until next spring you are members of the EU" .... WTF is going on .. does he mean leaving on Oct 31st will not happen ... some thing really stinks with the EU ....
SINGAXIT: How Singapore Left Asia., a new production by writer, director & producer Nigel Farage starring Nigel Farage as himself. Nigel successful runs for the Parliament of Singapore only to begin tearing the city-state to shreds for not standing up for its British colonial past. He then successfully sues to get atlases & maps changed to show Singapore as part of the Australian continent. Who will be next? Tickets go on sale soon.
That man is in a senior position and doesn't realise that the Allies the UK with Empire troops and the USA liberated Europe, what a deeply ignorant and insulting man he is. And then to cap it all he demands respect for people like himself with deluded ideas of history!!!!
@@sachacek I agree that München 1938 was a terrible mistake, made by a old fool, who had memories of effects the previous war. But he can hardly be blamed for starting the war, he was desperately trying to avoid it. If Britain had not stood alone against the Nazis, at massive cost, the history of Europe would have been very different. It is likely that is would be still be ruled by some tyranny of extreme right or left even now. Britain could easily have done a deal with the Nazis, fighting the British was not part of Hitlers plan. Farage didn't just try to get the UK out of the EU. There were many years when that seemed impossible, so he tried to reform the EU. Tried to make it more democratic, more open, more accountable, criticised the ridiculous amount MEP's and executives could claim on expenses, and complained about using secret ballots, complained that proper accounts were not being kept. I can tell you that he frequently had a great deal of heckling and abuse in and around the EU parliament when he did those things. But no doubt, like the BBC, your media edits out the abuse he often gets before and after his comments, and as he goes about his business.
@@sachacek Well Farage is not a natural politician, he never wanted to go into politics, he just hates the EU. He thinks and says with no filter in between. So at least you know what you are getting. Someone like president Shulz is a career politician, clever and devious. Even with the press on his side he is far more careful about what he says, but he is far more dangerous. For example he would frequently say there are Facsists amoung us, and would name no one, but stare fixededly at Farage every time. Let me give you an example of an exchange between them. Farage objects to a secret ballot. Shulz says a secret ballot is perfectly normal, for they are an electorate. Farage says that they are NOT an electorate, EVERYONE present is an employee, and their employers, the taxpayers are entitled to know how their employees vote on their behalf. There is lots of heckling and some abuse shouted at Farage from some places in the chamber. There are two things many Eurocrats hate, openness and accountability. To illustrate to the public how undemocratic the EU is Farage then points out that there was only one name on the ballot paper anyway, Junker. Again ...heckling from around the chamber. Shulz just ignores him and moves the topic on... I could give many more examples of where Farage stands up for ordinary people and taxpayers, against people like Junker and Shulz. .....Now who is the Fascist?
@@sachacek Did you not read my reply to you about secret ballots as one of many examples I could give.? Other than media propaganda there is no logical reason why you can link him to anything undemocratic. He has stood for more openness, more accountability more democracy within the EU itself all along. He is hated for those things. For most of his years there, he was probably better known for those actions, rather than trying to get the UK out of the EU because there was little hope of doing so. For nearly two decades Farage has been warning the EU that if it did not become more democratic, more open, more accountable the extreme far right and the extreme far left would become more powerful. Across most of Europe (but not the UK, but that is for other reasons) that has been the case. The rise of these factions is because the EU has not listened to people like Farage, NOT because of him. Don't blame the messenger.
@@sachacek Well a start point would be to read all of my comment above which begins. "Well Farage is not a natural politician..." There is also the two issues of ballot rigging, when votes are both secret and not overseen by the parties involved, ( and cannot be for in the grossly misnamed "parliament" where voting is mostly electronic) EU fraud is easy and almost impossible to prove. Secondly representatives may vote one way to get approval from people they work for/with/on behalf of, and then tell their electorate that they voted another, to get votes from their electorate. There is no need for any secret ballots within the EU they are all employees, supposedly working for the taxpayer (ha ha).
@@sachacek He is not responsible for the mess we are in now. The mess we are in now is because John Major signed away democratic rights and powers of law making and governance over UK citizens, over to an unaccountable foreign organisation without ANY electoral consent, by way of manifesto or referendum. Calls for a referendum were blocked and denied for years. As anti EU parties started to rise, their way was blocked by both parties promising referendums, only to renege on those promises once in power and they realised what the outcome would be. Only after a quarter of a century, when polls showed a comfortable win for remain we we allowed ANY say in who rules over us or who we pay taxes to. (on the way Blair/Brown signed us into the Lisbon treaty which got rid of rights of veto, and OK'd the EU Constitution. ) The Government, instead of providing a platform for sensible debate, began and ended the race to the bottom with an outrageous propaganda campaign using taxpayers money, and fantasy treasury reports. All Farage has ever argued for is that we return to basic democratic principles and morals. He didn't get us into this mess, he spent 20 years of his life trying to get us out of it.
0:10 Tajani: "I don't think there are any people who are nostalgic for Nazism or the Communist dictatorship." 0:35 (Farage laughs) 1:00 Tajani: "You seem to be someone who is nostalgic for dictatorships yourself." So it only took less than a minute and a laugh from Farage for Tajani to change his mind. Is this an example of how well thought out and grounded his views are?
WW2 ended in 1945, while the EU started in 1992. I know it's only a few decades off but seems to me a bit odd that a political union stopped a war which ended 47 years earlier… 🤔
@@Marlborouk1 Think YOU need to actually look up the EU's history. It wasn't a political union until 1992. There was the EEC, which was about trade, and even if you were right about the when it started, it's still post-WW2 which means of course it didn't bring the downfall of Nazism.
@@katynewt The EU developed from the ECSC which started in 1952. The formation of that Union mysteriously coincides with a period of rapid economic growth, the longest avoidance of a major European war, and growth democratic and diplomatic ties. Nazism, I also would like to remind you, did not start in Germany nor end with the downfall of the Third Reich. It is a political system that is still supported by certain groups to this day, as is totalitarian Communism. Mysteriously, parties which support hard-right and hard-left Totalitarian systems also started becoming less popular as they had increasingly more difficulty making up European enemies. I don't know, this must all, of course, be a huge coincidence. That or perhaps the Union, promoting peace, actually helped in the destruction of harmful ideas by supplying people with a better one?
Yes, he should have mentioned Russia defeating the Germans and... the Italians were Nazi supporters till they realised "mama mia! we are losing, lets join the Allies!"
Sara Skywalker They’re not arguing that the Soviet Union were good guys, they’re arguing for credit where credit is due. The USSR were terrible, but they did help tremendously in the restoration of peace across the globe (even though that started the Cold War)
@@tomon5598 the original argument from the Italian MP was that he EU brought down both Nazis and soviets, why would give credit to the soviets in an argument about bringing down that very same regime?
. This Italian can insult Mr Farage ad nauseum but it would seem that the Italian must not be laughed at albeit what he said is totally absurd. The museum of European history bizarrely charts history only from post 1945. Often one hears too that it is the EU which has created peace when we all know that it is NATO. This Italian really has his knickers in a twist and I, like Nigel, would be laughing at the stupid statement and the puerile rant of abuse. He says respect several times but I doubt if he thinks respect is a two- way street and is something that is earned not demanded in civilised society. And Mrs May and Remainers want to keep us under the authority of such EU idiots. Thank goodness Silvini runs Italy for this Tajani is a basket case. I suppose next we will hear that the Nazis were helping Jewish persons back in the 1940s and not exterminating them. Perhaps that fascists in Italy were victims too? When one sees the mindset, manners , rhetoric of EU mandarins toward the UK and Hungary it is not surprising that Brexit happened and was right to. The insults bullying and demands by the EU are preposterous and show them in their true light and in fact shows too that cordiale after 40 years is little more than a facade and totally conditional on being sycophantic to the EU dream. EU trade is only worth 10% GDP; there are 504m persons. Surely trading with the world where there are billions off persons we could easily gain this 10% allegedly to be lost and we would not have endless times and money wasted on facile EU meetings etc. We should be putting all our effort in to getting world trade set up with those who want to deal with us freely and sensibly and not with EU who only deal in negative and barriers and protracted nonsensical narrative and charge us exorbitant fees for the privilege.
S tanner Mr. Salvini is out now! 😎 We hope the UK go out to UE fast! We hope.... we hope to close the UK border and return to customs duties. Then we'll laugh ...🤞
@@pietrowideshutfurfaro9900 haha why do you think we keep getting extensions ;) this union will be finished once we have left Germany is already In decline. Nice try though :)
@@jamier7785 1. Germany is not in decline. 2. This union has been here for more than your life. 3. Get the hell off so you will see what will be the so-called freedom that you ask for. 4. You are a fool
@@pietrowideshutfurfaro9900 the union is finished just look at Italy and Poland they will be next and yes we will enjoy the freedom and our fish and the money we will be saving - incase u didn't know there are other country's not in the EU who actually trade with each other and survive ;) again good try.
Allied (non EU) victory over nazi Germany: 1945. Death of Stalin by illness: 1953. Treaty of Rome (only NATO countries): 1957. Fall of Berlin wall: 1989. End of USSR: 1991. Establishing of the European Union: 1993. First enlargement of the EU to former Warsaw Pact countries: 2004. Please, respect the utter ignorance of Antonio Tajani!
Yeah, because as we all know, 70 years of peace is common place in Europ-- oh... this is weird. Huh, lo-- no, no, constant war in Europe. That's weird, the period of peace started after the creation of the ECSC, which became the EEC, and then the EU. Weird. It's almost like the formation of this Economic (and then also political) Union made EU countries so reliant and intertangled that war was no longer possible. That or mysteriously we have a huge coincidence that major European wars ceased right after. @Amel Camel The EU used to be the EEC which did exist throughout the Cold War.
In addition to Mr Tajani's ludicrous claims about the EU defeating Nazism and Communism, it must be remembered that the EU was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2012 - and it was collected in Stockholm by the Numpty triumverate - Messrs Jose-Manuel Barroso, Herman Van Rompuy and Martin Schulz - who accepted it without even having the decency to blush. The EU.. motto: Rewriting History since 1957.
Rich Lee Italians are not fighters? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 have you ever heard about the Romans Empire fucking ignorant!?! Right now your are speaking a Latin language, man. Latin was the language of the Romans. The English language ( and Americans as well ) come from the Latin man. All of you, all the western countries exist just because Romans for one thousand years ruled the world. “ITALIANS ARE NOT FIGHTERS” 😂 you have to study the history as Tayani sad to the very arrogant Mr Farange.
S T A R I N G I N T E N S I F IE S
And then he talked about dictatorship and autoritarism
Well done to whomever wrote the subtitles lol
SOS!
True story
Lmao
"Onorevole farage la suggerirò per il ruolo di kapò"
1. The Nazi regime was defeated by USA and UK. Without US help even the soviet Union would have fall during WW2. 2. The Soviet Union was collapsed due to Hungary and Poland long and bloody straggle. Just take a look on Hungarian anti-Soviet revolution of 1956 and the Polish people fight during all 70th. Salvini never would have sad such a stupidity!
@@rupigabor6219 Hungary and Poland are both part of the European Union indeed
@@Martin6465 after what Gabor, rightly, said.
Just one thing, is not Salvini, but Tajani.
And,as an italian, I just can say that Farage is completely right. Just hope that Italy will take the same decision that England took as soon as possible
@@rupigabor6219 also the USSR helped defeating the Nazi, let's not forget their heroic efforts
@@MrWolf-xk8sl - Without the American aids and also weapon transport the Russian would have lost that war. In think the Communism was very similar to Nazism. Stalin also killed many Jews in Soviet Union.
all gangsta before Italian start spoke Latin. Cit
Grazie a Dio non gli ha risposto in inglese
@@lorenzopalpacelli2245 guarda che lo stai dicendo di uno che parla a livello professionale Spagnolo e Francese, e che in Inglese comunque sa parlare decentemente. Tajani è tutto fuorché ignorante.
Gaius Octavius Thurinus' angry *intensifies*
Typer j. Simpson Tajani non sarà un ignorante e siamo d’accordo. Ma l’UE è al capolinea, non la vuole più nessuno..
@@typerj.simpson6519 Dal punto di vista grammaticale il tuo discorso non fà una grinza ,ma dal punto di vista di uno storico Tajani è un emerito ignorante e dice un mucchio di castronerie .....
The Italian guy: *speaks Latin*
France, Britanny, Germany, Romania, Turkey, greece and Spain:
*ay shit here we go again*
To be fair a lot of UK's politicians have learned Latin at University.
Turkey? Wtf
@@mariorossi9944 vergognati Mario Rossi, il latino rimane e rimarrà una lingua imponente e solenne, per non parlare della bellezza e della miriade di motti e aforismi che se ne possono ricavare
@@flusdock8526 Mi schiero indubbiamente con il suo punto di vista. Il latino è una lingua endemicamente solenne e legata ad un passato di glorie. Sopratutto è la base dell'italiano che parliamo tutti i giorni.
do not forget portugal
Tajani: "Risus abundat in ore stultorum."
European Parliament: "Ah, I see you are a Man of Culture as well"
Yeah, just a classic establishment nonsense slogan.
EU was born in 1992, before we had just economic agreements between european countries (carbon and steel).
NATO was the only peace keeper
@@theweb3182 the beginning of the EU goes back to 1952 and not 1992
@@gustavschnitzel Open a book you are so ignorant.
> 1952: carbon and steel economic community (nothing related to a peace keeping)
> 1992: EU, but still not able to keep the peace, because it's not a federal government
NATO was and is the only peace keeper in Europe
@@theweb3182 No, you are the ignorant one. You don't understand what peacekeeping means. You don't understand how a war is prevented. The carbon and steel economic community was meant to share the resources that are important to conduct a war. And if these resources are shared, it becomes very unrealistic that the countries who share it, will fight each other. Of course the EU keeps peace. When was the last time that EU-members fought each other? Never. Open a book yourself before you call someone ignorant, fool.
You just proving that I'm right.
1945 NATO, after just council of Europe, so nothing military able to keep the peace.
1992 EU but up to today continue to be not a military peace keeper.
Just NATO kept and keeping the peace with military presence
1:32 quel momento di imbarazzo di quando la prof chiede : "interrogazione. Allora qualche volontario?"
E tutti che abbassano lo sguardo sul libro facendo finta di non aver sentito
Haahahahahah
In quel momento mi aspettavo quasi un porcone urlato 😂😂😂
Verissimo ahahah
Imbarazzo rotto dallo scandire terrificante delle lettere del mio cognome.
Tajani looks like Robert De Niro
Yup, a 5’7” douchebag
Yes, but in the Joker, LoL
I had the same opinion before whatching this comment
you talkin' to me?
@@MrSemglory bam bam bam
"Risus abundat in ore stultorum", Holy sheet, what perfect timing to say that phrase. I'll added to my list of latin phrases
You can see Tajani's hatred for Farage oozing from gritted teeth.
sure, weak dogs hate the boss, normal
Farage is by far the better man.
@@seanbs249 with any luck u get assimilated forever in debt to your overlords
Bill Franklin better man at what? Being stupid??
@@SaraidLullaby
He's not the one twisting history here.
risus abundat in ore stultorum...SBAAAAAAAAAAM!
Peccato che risum è un neutro ma vbb
@@diegeigergarnele7975 no
@@fioranilo vero ho detto una cazzata abnorme AHAHAHA. La mia prof del liceo mi lincerebbe
Che risposta del cazzo... Quindi se rido alle cazzate di salvini vuol dire che lui ha ragione? Come fai a dire che l Europa ha sconfitto nazismo e comunismo senza far ridere la gente? Che pagliacci che siete...
@@freedomordeath89 prima di tutto stai calmo che nessuno qui ha detto di essere d'accordo con il significato del video.
Io non mi troverei mai d'accordo con uno che ride in faccia a qualcuno che sta esponendo un opinione. È una mancanza di rispetto spaventosa e chiunque si atteggi così ha meno diritto a portare avanti una carriera politica che qualcuno che ha proposto un'idea non condivisibile.
Roman Empire and Greece gave birth to Western Civilization
Francis Greece?
@@mrgeorgesrb7688 have you ever heard about _hellenistic period_ ?
Srbin 037 have you ever opened a book?
valex0691 Byzantine Empire is not the Greece,sorry bro... 😉
@@mrgeorgesrb7688 You're right, Greek and Romans are older! Greets from Switzerland, relatively younger 😁
Bellissimi i sottotitoli "(Sguardi incrociati intensi)" 😂
Apparte che sono completamente sbagliati hahahahah
@Elite xxxx what? Dude are you drunk or something? Ognuno parla la lingua che vuole, certamente non sarà un inglese qualunque a farci smettere
@Elite xxxx learn Italian
Orwell's novel 1984: “Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.”
Italian generals riding around with ss Nazi generals when they was winning the war and then when the Germans was losing the war the Italians turncoat the Germans in favour of the usa and uk these words came from my 98year old Uncle
if you are going to try to contradict me by "deny the truth of (a statement) by asserting the opposite"it was my Uncle, not my grandad ! and he was there was you ? has the last four years of bios Misinformation, lies and media spin and forty seven years under the UE, learnt you leftys nothing, it is obvious the EU paid teachers have done there job well !
He Is Just ignorant..
those that don't learn from history are bound to repeat it ,George Santayana 1905 and orwells 1984 is slowly coming true FOOL !
@Amaze World Yep! TOOOOOO much Alter Wine!!
Peace.
I'm Italian and Tajani in my country is worth less than 0 is just a politician who is afraid of losing his annuity and to avoid there ...
With you there Andrea!
@werner van gelder Thattaboy! Change the subject! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!! What a tosser! Go back to the other thread we were both commenting on just moments ago, the one you bailed out of!
weener van gelder ... What a weakling you are ... deleting your posts and having my perfectly ok and honest responses removed with them on another thread today .... you aren't fit to call yourself a man and you aren't fit to clean my shoes. You are one of life's losers who feel the need to lie about their qualifications in an attempt to appear as clever ... I caught you out on that and you then deleted your posts .... priceless! Gutless tosser.
ma che cazzo dici ?
@werner van gelder You fool .... Andrea stated in her post that she was Italian!
Germany Italy and Japan were the axis of evil... so the EUs Italy and Germany saved us from the Nazis? Allo Allo...Woda mistaka to maka!
Not sure why you're laughing at the axis comment ML...perhaps a skewed vision of history. Poles and Czechs are independent states in an ill thought out union controlled once again by the Germans.
He doesn't get irony
the italians changed sides in the war though. they weren't like germany or austria.
parlare del nazi-fascismo perché l'Italia e la Germania erano alleate, sarebbe come dire che la monarchia inglese e il capitalismo americano erano comunisti perche alleati di Stalin. (talk about Nazi-fascism because Italy and Germany were allies, it would be like saying that the British monarchy and the American capitalism were communists because allies of Stalin)
per fortuna si.
"Acta est fabula, plaudite! Daje! Li mortacci tua!"
ahahhahahahahahahahha
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I am Italian. And I don't like who laughs to someone representing something he has asked to join. All the rest is ARS ORATORIA
Farage non ha mai chiesto di entrare in Europa però.
Forse intendevi che rappresentava un paese (UK) che tempo addietro chiese di unirsi alla CEE?
Se sì, è vero che alla CEE volevano unirsi, ma evidentemente erano presenti notevoli perplessità sull'evoluzione di questa in UE che poi hanno portato alla scelta della Brexit.
Resta il fatto che ridere in faccia a qualcuno mentre questo sta parlando sia maleducato, tuttavia, Tajani aveva detto una cazzata, non può esser stata l'UE a salvarci da comunismo e nazismo visto che all'epoca nemmeno era in progetto una UE.
Il Regno Unito, numeri alla mano, è cresciuto esponenzialmente proprio nel periodo in cui si è unito alla CEE, ma questo gli inglesi l'hanno rimosso in fretta. Le perplessità? Si, certo, ricordassero dov'era l'economia britannica prima di entrare nella CEE e poi ne riparliamo. Ora vedremo cosa sapranno fare da soli, ma non dimenticassero chi gli ha permesso di tornare ad essere un'economia sana. Ci vorrebbe una hard brexit affinché il buon Farage capisca il senso del termine "gratitudine"
@@LastViolator Che io sappia Farage si lamenta anche della poca democrazia della UE, su cui ha ragione e su cui ricordo avesse fatto molta campagna elettorale.
Sulla questione economica hai ragione però, visto che andava storcendo i dati per far sembrare che l'UK sebbene contribuente attivo alla UE non ricevesse nulla indietro o che avesse altro che da perdere nel restare (cosa non vera).
Secondo me avrebbe fatto meglio a lottare per democratizzare l'unione anzichè cercare di uscirne.
@@PRODAt3, è un discorso molto complesso, e tu stesso hai in parte centrato il punto. Ad un esame d'interpretariato nel 94 (attenzione all'anno..), il mio insegnante di francese ricordava come gli inglesi ce l'hanno per vizio il volersi sentire "diversi", a cominciare dalla guida a sinistra per finire alle loro unità di misura. Le lamentele britanniche ce le sorbiamo da decenni (la Thatcher diceva sempre "our money back") dimenticando chi gli aveva permesso di poter far crescere e prosperare la propria economia.
Ora, è ovvio che far parte di una comunità implica la perdita di alcuni diritti: se entro in un club, devo accettarne diritti e doveri, giusto? Ora, la natura furbesca e quasi viscida dei negoziatori britannici si è pienamente vista quando, durante i negoziati brexit (ti rammento, NON ancora conclusi dopo 4 anni: ecco come l'avevano preparata bene certi irresponsabili, eh!) hanno inizialmente chiesto di poter far parte del mercato unico (i vantaggi) senza però stare alle regole della libera circolazione delle persone (i doveri)! Furbacchioni, o sbaglio? Loro ci possono invadere di merci, noi non possiamo manco andare a vivere in Inghilterra! Bene, io sarei per l'hard brexit con tanto di dogane e dazi in entrata come in uscita; poi voglio vedere a chi li vendono le loro merci questi furbacchioni... agli africani? A Trump? O sperano di fare alleanze con Russi e Cinesi?
Che l'UE dev'essere rivista, ci sta, sono d'accordo. Ma non parliamo dei britannici, o forse dovrei dire degli inglesi e gallesi, visto che Scozia e Irlanda del Nord sono favorevoli in maggioranza all'UE. Il mio sogno? La disintegrazione del Regno Unito con uscita di scozzesi e nord irlandesi dal Regno Unito e il loro ritorno in Europa... allora si che vorrei vedere la faccia di quel grandissimo BUGIARDO di Farage (perché da come ne parli, sei cosciente di tutte le balle da codice penale che si è inventato per vincere il referendum - il re della fake news, quel viscido schifoso xenofobo).
@@LastViolator I negoziati sono stati anche ampiamente osteggiati dalla UE che va detto, sapeva che la May non intendeva guidare una Brexit e l'idea comune da entrambe le parti era tirarla alla lunga per poi fare un secondo referendum e rimanere in UE.
Cosa che non sono riusciti a fare, democraticamente han fatto un voto ed è giusto rispettarlo, io son daccordo con Farage sul fatto che l'Europa non sia fatta bene e che non sia sufficientemente democratica, meno sul come ha deciso di impostare la campagna elettorale, però è anche vero che gli inglesi non si sentono europei ed hanno un eccezionalismo non da poco, il che da una parte non è un male per loro visto che la UE sta diventando uno strumento di supremazia tedesco, come la crisi attuale sta ben dimostrando.
Mi aspetto che la UE non duri molto a questo punto, a causa di ciò che sta succedendo con la risposta europea al coronavirus cinese e mi auguro che se un suo successore dovesse venir creato possa esser fatto con gli strumenti di democrazia reale che auspicava anche Farage ma cui pesava troppo il culo darsi da fare per creare quando poteva.
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Rosida Andriyana
NO WAY
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Ueeh alòra
Hahah
The universe was brought into existence when the EU voted it in.
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@Richard Moloney 🤣
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They probably believe that
The Big Bang was an EU Directive apparently
@Boomer Galactica actually the universe happened when Chuck Norris sneeze and farted at the same time. This is why we have hypothesis of parallel universes
Quale è la morale: la morale è che al cavaliere nero non gli dovete cagare il c...o.
Hahhahahaahhaha
Ahahahhaha grazie
Ahahahahahahahahaha
Hahahah tooop
Farage is just a clown ___bla bla ...
Yes. I still remember that time when Herman Von Rompuy put Hitler and Stalin in a Deadly-double choke hold and brought an end to both their regimes
@Seine O'More
Yes
I need to study up on my history.
Risus abundat in ore stultorum. ❤️
@Iwa Ti imploro...sarà anche un problema del touch screen comunque sia rileggi e correggi :)
@Iwa leuropeisti.....:):) un neologismo !!
@Iwa "LEUROPEISTI"ma veramente?
@Iwa No stupido burattino microcefalo, ma scommetto che é il tuo padrone
Penso che la figura dello stolto qui l'abbia fatta solo Tajani non conoscendo i fatti della storia. È vero, Farage ha sbagliato a ridere, ma ha perfettamente ragione perché i fatti sono fatti.
The EU didn’t exist during the 2nd world war
Daniel Oliver it shouldn’t exist now!
hobbsey1 no ur wrong The Eu is great and it will continue to be
Nazi ideologist suggested European Union
@@alessandrovitagliano7137 how is the EU great look at what has become the EU every country under there control (yes i said control) is going under dig a little deeper in those in control of EU you will see. you will lose your voice to vote or any kind of speech did you vote for these guys nope
Alessandro Vitagliano yes, it’s wonderful. So wonderful that the far right vote across Europe is increasingly massively since it’s freedom of free movement.
I totally disagree with Farage and his ideas, but it cannot be considered that "the two dictatorships have disappeared thanks to the European Union". Even in consideration of the important role of the EU in international relations, Tajani's statement was too simplistic and untrue compared to the complexity of the events that led to the end of the two dictatorships. On the other hand, the EU was officially born with the Maastricht Treaty of 1992, while the European Economic Community (EEC) with the Treaty of Rome of 25 March 1957. Both had little to do with Nazism, considering the inexorable decline with the end of the Second World War (1945) and the indispensable intervention of the United States. A completely marginal role also in the dissolution of the USSR. We agree on respect for opinions, but the story must be told objectively. And I say this as an Italian and a pro-European.
You are correct, and I think his real thought was something like this: the EU helped its members fight against renewal of dictatorships in the after war. But I agree if that was his thought, like I think, it was pretty badly stated. Farage could have made his point without being a c*nt though, but then again, it wouldn't be Farage. The president of the Parliament was right to scold him for his childish behaviour, even if he was wrong on the historical facts. Anyway, I think noone regrets Farage in Bruxelles.
As an Italian across the pond, I couldn't agree with you more. How long did Britain fight on her own, 8 months or so, against the Nazis? Churchill and Gorbachev my two favourite statesman from the last century.
@markussf5702Well said. The European Union dictatorship following Marxism and WEF.
@@republica7337
8 months ....more like 3 Years
He rambles, "Thank God these two dictatorships have vanished due to the European Union." What is he smoking?
Artful Dodger it’s clear that, historically, the Nazism and Comunism have been defeated by the Allies. What he said and meant it’s just that after the horrors of the war the European citizens wanted to establish mutual ideals of brotherhood and cooperation, to definetly bury all those nationalism feelings that led to the WW2 atrocities.
He should change his pusher
@@freedomordeath89 uk should join african union😂😂😂😂
@@freedomordeath89 In the last 75 years since the end of world war II, the biggest 44 economies in the world have not been in conflict with each other. Such peace has not been seen since the fall of the Roman Empire, and that's a historical fact.
@@bramvanopdenbosch3743 I'm Italian, I'm european. I despise populists and I know that the EU brought economic prosperity and development.
BUT I also have a history Phd and I know for a fact that this peace was brought by NATO and by the Pax Americana, not by the EU.
I don't want to leave the EU, but the EU is not perfect, its a mess with 30 different states always fighting each others because they have different interest, the bruxelles burocracy is blind and not that effective.
THE ONLY thing I like about the EU is the common currency and the common bank.
I agree that my original comment was too harsh, it was a bad period in my life and in my country's history, now things are better and I can see more clearly.
I was blaming many italian problems on the EU because my politicians lied to me back then. Now I am more clear minded. But I still dont like the political side of the EU, I like the "technical" institutions, the common research, bank, regulations etc, but it's far from being perfect. And I can still vouch that the EU has nothing to do with world peace, that's a USA achievement.
My Grandad was injured in WW1, in WW2 my uncle was killed in a Lancaster Bomber, and my Dad was in the RAF, this is a disgrace to all who died and fought to liberate Europe.
@@blitzwing1 you're are the dumbest person I've ever seen, did you graduate University?
@@blitzwing1 every country that the British empire has colonised is doing far better now than they would do if we didnt.
Slavery lasted less than 200yrs one of the smallest and least important slave trades in the world and is dwarfed in size in comparison to the slave trades we have in africa both back then and today.
Colonisation was a peaceful process whitch is why despite possible killings or wars there has never been any evidence for the British carrying out a genocide at any point in history.
@@joshuadrew6246 Exactly just look at America, Canada, Australia etc etc
@@blitzwing1 how can we ever be a half decent nation with people like you in it
Not to mention a terrible terrible waste
💯% on Nigel's side...even though I'm Italian.
Metoo (HAHA!)
Me too
Ma poi tajani è de forza italia, but wath se stamo to talking about
Qualcuno ha notato che assomiglia sempre più di faccia e di voce al Paolo Stoppa gerarchetto fascista (film Peppone-don Camillo). A Taja', but make me the pleasure!
E fai male.
Tajani sarà un leccaculo di Silvio, ma Farage è un coglione bugiardo che ha raccontato l suo popolo che con la Brexit sarebbero diventati più ricchi.
Oltre a tutto, dopo che è passato il referendum, si è andato a nascondere come un codardo e ha lasciato che gli altri si prendessero tutte le patate bollenti in culo.
Ora torna, dopo aver fatto un disastro, e accusa altri di non essere in grado di rimediare alle sue cazzate.
Un buffone in piena regola.
E comunque fanculo Tajani.
2:50
1991: URSS falls
2004: Eastern european countries (excluded Romania and Bulgaria) join EU
Are you kidding me?
It takes years of negotiating and treaties to join any international organization my dude. The Uk didn’t officially leave the EU in 2016.
@@enniodimauor7561 And maybe you also know in which year did this States begin the negotiations..
@@enniodimauor7561 im sorry but being forcefully occupied for many a year after a war you got fucked in for seemingly no reason and then seeing your nation suffer, revolts brutally suppressed and the West watching helplessly of course the eventually freed soviet republics of Eastern Europe would rush to the EU. They were given a chance that their people had suffered and been murdered for on a platter.
EU and Europe are different things. The legal join is not the real join. After 1991, many ex URSS countries created social and work net with the EU. The reunion of Germany was the first "official" step of this process but it was not the only one. The CEE birth it's one of the many reasons why we are free and not under a communist dictator. This is a historical fact.
@@federico8177 fra se usi le sigle italiane si fa più confusione che altro
His a good example why the Brits need to leave the EU
This is a good example why everyone wants Uk out of EU
Farage has no respect for those he disagrees with. A man funded by offshore Aaron Banks on 450K year and a luxury house in Chelsea!!
@Sword of S Fine. Let him publish his tax returns and then voters can judge.
@@garsm2290 And the corrupt EU council who are funded by George Soros who is one evil human being.
@@jimbrown4386 Yeah, Soros the Jew. The narrative doesn't change does it ....
Man, i undertood everything the italian said even though i have never studied italian.🇪🇺🇮🇹🇷🇴
Nice
I feel it
Bravo!😉
Me too. I read the subtitles.
Siete fortunati in Romania con sta cosa
Right there is the problem. How can such a clueless man be President of that place? Farage told him, though.
Barney Miller yo.
The thing is when you use latin it sounds as if you're right regardless of what you said, lol.
And?
@@redcrown5070 and?
Haahahqhaahahahah 😅😅👏🏻
0:57 "That's what the democracy all about" Proceeds to tell him to stay quiet..
Doesn't really tell him to shut up, he allows him to speak but says he'll have to be respectful, which is fair enough
boy you need to pay more attention b4 you spread out BS @JonatasAdoM
JonatasAdoM that makes absolutely no sense. He’s not telling him to be quiet in general, he’s telling him to be silent while he finishes his point and speaks in his allotted time period
And all this from an Italian. How would he know which side won, they didn't know which side to fight for!
We fought with the Germans til surrender.. Just saying
You're right, it was the Russians who won the II WW
Haha, the Italians couldn't win on hook a duck.
@@MrDjlamoffat Who's the duck, you?
@@Luna-nj9zd The duck is the country which ducked fighting for democracy in WW2 you prick! That was .. yes ... the fascist Italians who fought alongside Hitler in support of Nazism!
We didn't ask to join the EU. We we're supposed to join a free trading union. Not a political union.
And you did! the European Community (formerly EEC) is a free trade community that forms one of the pillars of the EU. I don't know what country you're from so I don't know who proposed the treaty for the entry of your country.
The decision to join the EU comes from local governments, that the citizens elect and that are in charge to represent the willing of the people who elected them. That’s how politic works.
Andrea Leonti - Yes democracy through the back door, it's the EU way; and you wonder why it's in the mess it's in!?
Cornelius Von Barron no, that’s how every government works. You elect someone to represent you and he makes decisions, whether you agree or not. If you agree you’re happy, if you don’t you’ll vote for the parties opposing those ideas or decisions.
Andrea leonti - Our politicians in the main only concentrate on domestic issues - as they should - europe is on the periphery of all debate, that's why the labour party increased it's vote share in the last election; it was nothing to do with europe. It's this diluting of democracy that people are rebelling against, I see your lessons from Tajani here, are bearing fruit.
(Staring at Farage) (Staring intensifies....) who wrote the captions😂
I saw that lol
As it was a translation, I think someone was speaking Italian (staring intensifies) 🤣🤣🤣
I’m no Italian but how many times did he say respect?
I'm italian . He said too much for nothing . Farage were completely right and Tajani it 's only one more clown in this circus
If Taiani had respect for the place he occupies he would have to step down ..... he doesn't even know what respect is, his party in Italy was founded by a man named "Marcello dell'Utri" a mobster .... that's who we have in the European parliament
@@isivip1 this is not the way to debate, even in front of a nonsense
@@biez71 your opinion .
@Bainsworth ..... sacred hall of WHAT ??????? ridicolous .......
Some one pass that poor guy a time line of at least the last 100 years and then pass that same hand out to the majority of that room, it seems a lot of people have got their order of events mixed up.
Even the EEC came after WW2.
Exactly. The EU was formed in 1993, 2 years after the Soviet fall. EEC was 56 or something. About 10 years after Nazis were defeated.
Farage vs. The globalists
Farage is a globalist who hates Europe. A man funded by offshore Aaron Banks on 450K year and a luxury house in Chelsea!!
Gar Sm jealous. Much?
Gar Sm Rubbish
@@BossySwan Farage and Banks are both globalists.
Gar Sm I’m struggling to reconcile your statement with actual facts and reality.
Oh wait, does Tajani know that one of the most influental person who created EEC was Altiero Spinelli Italian communist, who was even political prisoner during facist regime?
I think I know it. But after all communist regime in wester Europe was at the same level of Nazi Germany
I don't think that knowing that played any role in what he was saying, actually.
Do you know that Italian communist party was the first one in Europe to detach from URSS?
Farage never said Britain won the war alone. He was challenging the Italian thicko who stated that the EU was responsible for driving fascism out of Europe. This guy is an unelected EU official with little knowledge of history. Farage put him in his place so don't try and twist the facts which are clearly there to be seen.
I don't think the EU is given enough credit for inventing penicillin, putting the first man on the moon or its greatest feat - beating Sonny Liston in 1964.
arthur lewis ... ha ha ha ha !!!! Nice one!
You forgot the wheel and sliced bread.
And there development of the one way mirror.
@@came6939 And ... the industrial revolution!
We all owe them a debt for creating the railways so we can travel
is he on about when they first sided with the nazis or when the switched sides half way thru...
Italian generals riding around with ss Nazi generals when they was winning the war and then when the Germans was losing the war the Italians turncoat the Germans in favour of the usa and uk these words came from my 98year old Uncle
@@dillanmaneny859 he isn't the most intelligent fella i suppose
some people don't like the truth
Why people don’t understand that Tajani said that “Europe defeated Nazism” means that thanks to Europe nowadays things like Nazism are almost impossible to take place (at least in European countries)
Then should he not say defending? They most certainly did not defeat it unless being conquered by nazi was a big plan all along?
Thats your interpretation of what he said, most others seem to hear something very different. As farage said - disingenuous to allies such as the Americans. Europe didn't defeat Nazism alone. & If we're going to be totally correct some of Europe created it.
No, he clearly is a clueless idiot. He even claimed that communism in the Soviet Union ended when Eastern European countries joined the EU, which is idiotic since all of the Eastern European countries that are in the EU nowadays, joined after the Soviet Union ended.
@@gail9299 you hear something different that you do not understand?
@@sssd3461 no i hear something that is at very best a stretch on the facts to suit his rhetoric.
Why, oh why are we wasting our time with these people. We need to leave now. The EU won the war, I do not think so.
Blaz Blaz really look at America’s past they’ve changed history more times then I’ve had to change a lightbulb.
LEAVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
This moron forgets the part ( historically) that the Italians played in joining with the Nazis....
00:49 che mina frate
Sei cosi ignorante da non sapere che 70 anni fa l'Unione Europea manco esisteva CAPRA!
@@theweb3182 nel 1950 nasce la Ceca, che é la prima comunità paraeuropea, il mercato europeo nel 58 con piena attuazione le 62,lumione europea nasce con il trattato di Maastricht nel 92,di certo non esiste da 70 anni, ma di sicuro da quando si é iniziato a vivere le cose in maniere più comunitaria, i conflitti sono diminuiti drasticamente.
@Rosida Andriyana what do you kean with that?
@@lel6624
And you say we write strangely look at this Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
@@lel6624 oh shit sorry i wanted to write to her not to you my mistake
Mr Taajani, you dont even know the history of your own country let alone the history of the Europe.
Ahh yes the terroist from england killing over 1 billion people
the Italian Nazi packed turn coats
You should remember the great contribution of Romani to the civilization of Britannia (without them, you would be as violent as Germani ... or Farage)
@@yallowrosa We do remember,but we only kept the good bits.
@@yallowrosa Don't confuse these Italians with Roman's. Caesar would be disgusted by these lazy fools.
The problem about EU is that it is an economical alliance, not a people's union
A self generated and self claimed union !
You are right, is definitely far from being a union. I’d say it’s even far from being an economical alliance too.
@@ea635 Just figure out how could such an unfair deal called €urozone be trusted ....
while one of the partners (Holland) is allowed acting as a fiscal paradise for top corporates
Bruxelles keeps preaching strict austerity policy for the others :-) :-) :-)
Does Mrs.Von der Leyen think we're a pack of
idiots ?
Greetings from Milan.
The EU president is so dumb that he doesn't know that the Union was not founded 70 years ago 🤣😂
@@theweb3182 Try reading some historical books. CECA (the ancient EU) was founded in 1952. "Risus abundat in ore stultorum"
What was Tajani thinking the numpty , Farage a day keeps the EU at bay .
They ask for respect... But who elected them?!
They elected themselves. They know what's best. So shut up and get in line.
People who bothered to vote voted for the Meps, like in the UK parliament, and the commissioner has to be approved by the MEPs ,that doesnt happen in the UK parliament with regards to the head of the civil service so by that token the EU is more democratic than the UK 🤔
who elected your dictatorship queen?
Lukas Graham ? You do realise the queen has no power right? She is just a figure head.
@@Kaifkahn figure head but she and all royal family live from your money.
Tajani is mad! That's why the EU pays him big bugs. How much? Around 10k a month with only 15% tax. And a truckload of generous allowances. To keep your job, anyone would say the craziest stuff. Welcome to the EU! The civil servants heaven!
I know, as Italian I'm so sorry for the ignorance of a Mr. Bunga's MP, in the end this is the right CV for the EU presidency.
Anybody know that before EU was just an economic treaty on carbon and steel, currently NATO continue to be the main pacekeeper
@@theweb3182 that is not true. European countries have been at war with eachother for all their existence, and no more since when te EU was formed. Plus It shurely did not end nazism, but it ended stalin communism for sure.
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Can this be a new epic rap battle of history?
Antonio Tajani needs to go back to school and learn history.
Mr Tajani responds at interest of his master Berlusconi and at jewish lobbies of globalization, like Mr Geroge Soros who finances the import of africans in Italy. We in Italy now have a strange situation. Not left against right, but sovranist (left 5 stars and rght Lega of Matteo Salvini) against pro globalization (left partito democratico and rgiht Forza Italia of Mr Berlusconi). We know that Mr Soros finances the english party for a new vote on Brexit, because jewish lobbies as you know have many citizenship but always only one nation that's jewish nation, because jewish religion is also a nation. They are afraid of nationalism and want only open society with many religions and many cuture. Here in Italy with Berlusconi and others allied they control main streem in newspapers and brodcasting television, but on the socials Matteo Salvini succeed in all elections where he is present. Tehey tell him that he is fascist, but it's not true; he is only a nationalist like Garibaldi, Mazzini and others patriots of the 19Th century. democracy is the only way to rule. But the eurpean establishment wants create a monster with no national identity. Fascism and nazism were defeted by democracy of Britain, USA, and as well as by comunism dictature of Soviet Union as we know and Mr Tajani is a Billy Lier has to go back to school.
@rad4579 Why? Is it not true that the EU has guaranteed the longest peace period that Europe has never met? Is it not true that the UE made the huge contribute to the end of Soviet's Regime in 1991? Is it not true that the EU has avoided that new Hitler or Mussolini may get the power in their own nations? This the *truth* definetly, and I would like to say "thank you" to Mr Schuman and all other people who contribute to found and develop the EU along more than 70 years nowadays.
@@robertoorsi5771 oh yess! Deve tornare a scuola a calci nel culo (per essere buoni)!
@@rikybologna3579 The Balkans are in Europe .....had a nice war 1990 which the EU didn't stop.
@@philmcdonald4778 You are confusing the EU and the Europe.
This comments area makes me want to throw up. Did Europe exist during World War II? Absolutely not. Does this mean it didn’t help eradicate fascism, Nazism and communism? You can believe this only if you haven’t studied. The idea of Europe, of collaboration and democracy, were and are fundamental to eliminating the nationalisms that are the cause of world wars and dictatorships. My political ideas are different from the Tajani ones, but in this case he is right. I would also like to remind you that Italians know that we were accomplices of the Nazis, but we also remember the partisans who, throughout Italy, died war on them. In Italy we had a Civil War!! I hope that the misunderstandings are due to translation, because in Italian the concept that Tajani expresses is clear.
Sorry for my horrible english, I tried to do the best I can
ITALIANO
Questa area commenti mi fa venire voglia di vomitare. L'Europa esisteva durante la seconda guerra mondiale? Assolutamente no. Questo vuol dire che non abbia contribuito a sradicare fascismo, nazismo e comunismo? Lo puoi credere solo se non hai studiato. L'idea d'Europa, di collaborazione e democratica, erano e sono fondamentali per eliminare i nazionalismi causa delle guerre mondiali e delle dittature. La mia opinione politica è diversa da quella di Tajani, ma in questo caso ha ragione. Ci tengo anche a ricordare che noi italiani sappiamo di essere stati complici dei nazisti ma ricordiamo anche i partigiani che in tutta Italia gli muosero guerra.
Grazie di esistere
Mi hai tolto le parole di bocca❤️
@@cicciobenzina1962 I fatti della storia sono scritti nero su bianco, con milioni di morti alle spalle e tu pensi che le parole di un esponente politico del XXI secolo possano "cambiarli"? É chiaro che Tajani non parlava in senso letterale e Farage ride perché é l'unico in quella sala che non ci é arrivato. (O meglio, magari ci è arrivato e ride per fare scena, più probabile)
Ciccio Benzina grazie per aver risposto ma non mi trovo d'accordo con il tuo ragionamento alla 1984. Credo che sia ovvio dal suo discorso come Tajani non avesse intenzione di cambiare il passato, ma solo di rimarcare il ruolo europeo nalla eradicazione delle ideologie dittatoriali del novecento e la sua opposizione a quest'ultime. Trovo inoltre la reazione di Farage come un segno di estrema maleducazione: non condividere un opinione è sempre leggittimo, ma credo che sia essenziale mantenere un clima di rispettosa collaborazione anche nei confronti di chi ha colore o idee diverse dalle proprie; specialmente in parlamento dove si condivide il ruolo di rappresentanza del popolo e espressione del volere dello stesso. Farage avrebbe avuto la possibilità di ribattere anche senza quella sceneggiata.
"No one forced the UK to join the European Union"
Yes they did and his name was Edward Heath.
An Italian talking about the Second World War and trying to suggest he was on the right side. Absolutely laughable.
I'm italian too and I can affirm he didn't say anything like that.
He just said that thanks to the UE 70 years of peace were guarantied.
And to be clear not all italians were fascist... Many were and still are antifascist. Maybe and just maybe countries like UK and many others should try not to be so close and full of themselves and should try to cooperate more with us.
@@federicogentile1576 The UK wants to cooperate but not as part of a federalist state.
@@freespeechisneverwrong9351 and I respect the choice that UK made...
If you don't want to be a part of someting tha doesn't fits you it's ok...
But thinking that you're better than us just because you left or just because we did some terrible mistakes 70 years ago it is disrespectfull for our generation and for all of them we lost along the way fighting against these horrible mistakes that all the countries in europe did in the 20th century.
Ad to be clear too i want to say to Mr. Farage that in wwII we had thousands of lost lifes too so having 30000 british soldiers life on our country doesn't make him any better. And his laugh was just wrong and not to be done in that situation, in that place, with all those other countries watching.
@@federicogentile1576 No one thinks they are better than you. That’s not even mentioned. You are now making things up. The UK wants independence. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone thinks that a problem.
Meanwhile the uk has every right to challenge an Italian on lies about the EU and the Second World War. In fact Farage did not claim that Britain saved Europe. He firmly stated that the US saved Europe.
If you cannot take criticism then you shouldn’t fabricate a story which is untrue (lies).
The Italians fought with the Nazis during WW2.
have you ever heard about the Resistance? The Partigiani? I guess no.
@@YouDeserveToDie666 you did.....Even Germany had a resistance
@angry troll secondo te ti prendono sul serio se ti chiami letteralmente "angry troll"??
@@justbrowsing5014 no, it didn't
@angry troll what's that supposed to mean? than what?
1:23 single frame
Reading some of the comments, I realise there seems to be a misunderstanding. Mr. Tajani said the EU helped defeat the dictatorships of the 20th century: that is, for the most part, not factually true (the EU was born after the fall of nazi germany and the end of world war 2 and while I can see where he is coming from when he talks about communism in eastern Europe, it seems to me that the causes for the fall of the eastern block are a lot more nuanced).
That said, I think the validity of the message still stands: the EU has defeated fascism, national socialism and communism because it has been able to marginalize nationalism and authoritarian ideals by creating a sense of common identity between european nations (which is sadly being slowly eroded by buffoons like Orban and, in a less human-rights-violating way, Farage and Johnson). Europe has never known a longer period of continuous peace and relative prosperity for the entirety of it's history and while other factors may have contributed to this outcome, the existence of the EU is certainly prominent among them.
That is just my opinion and, while i cannot read in Tajani's mind, I think that is what he meant.
Also, now that the UK is plunging ever deeper into the shitter, this clip looks more like the sinking of the Titanic, with the difference that the captain decided to abandon the ship. Just saying.
Well said.
EU was born in 1992, before we had just NATO (military peace keeper) and economic european treaties on carbon and steel.
Tajani is completely ignorant, like his party leader: Berlusconi
@@theweb3182 we agree on the lack of esteem in those people, but I think Francesco’s point of view on the message Tajani wanted to share is correct.
He was referring to the fact the EU has stopped the communist dictators by taking the eastern countries and forbidden the new nazis to rise again, this is not happening in usa for instance, just look at kkk, white supremacy and other junks that we don't have in the EU. Tajani was actually correct.
EU stopped communism and nazi is a baseless claim 😄
Maybe you are one of them
I recommend that all "Remainers" in the UK turn out at a Remembrance Sunday or Armistice parade and check out the medals the old boys are wearing, then think on what they went through to get them. No choice either conscription was in place as well as volunteering. God bless them all.
There are many veterans who fought in the war who witnessed fascism and its consequences and Farage is a fascist.
@@patrickmonkman8151 You say Farage is a fascist. Do tell me how you see him as a fascist, using as much detail as possible so that your claim is clear.
@@patrickmonkman8151 lol! A "fascist" arguing day in and day out for democracy and calling out un-elected leaders who have no accountability to voters (they are the real fascists).
@@danlewis1885 remind me who elected Nigel farage to be the leader of the brexit party or the anti lockdown party?
@@patrickmonkman8151 Remind me what laws/financial decisions that affect all Brits are made by the Brexit/Reform party?
I am from the US so I'm not up to date on the EU as most of you, what I don't understand is why some Britain feel that they need to stay in the EU Britain was once a world leader the most powerful country in the world I'm sure if Britain left the EU would prosper once again I have said many times I would love to see Fagage come Prime Minister of Britain just think what Farage and Trump could accomplish working together 👍
Trajani is wrong not only about the EU saving the world from communism but he is also wrong about the UK asking to enter the EU. The UK asked to join the "common market" which is a far cry from what we know as the EU.
Common Market is literally the EU, an economic union you idiot
@@darkspirit8247 No it isnt the common market in its original form was basicaly a trade deal to protect european farmers. The Eu was formed in 1993 by the maastricht treaty and is a political union aligning laws and regulation across states and collecting tax in the form of vat and duty.
Im glad the representatives of the UK in the EU parliament respect the USA as we respect them. Im proud that the UK is our greatest ally.
EDIT: Thanks for 30 likes, I find it hilarious how people are getting mad about this comment 4 months after I posted it.
EDIT: Thanks for 60 likes, I find it hilarious how people are getting mad about this comment 7 months after I posted it.
you would have to shut up, because while in the 7 year war England shot cannonballs at you while Europe (France and Savoy) saved your ass ...
@@ilkrankavalierenekro56 you really are an arrogant twat with little to no respect
@@danieljohnson4994 no i'm just telling you the truth about yours history
@@ilkrankavalierenekro56 While France may have saved our ass, the USA saved the UK twice. If it wasnt for us then the people of the United Kingdom would be speaking German.
@@sexyfiretoes8402 to a point yes not trying to downplay history but I think we could have survived with out the usa might take longer but Soviets would have pushed back german and europe may be communist but history is history no one can change it
mr Farage your the only one we have to get UK out ,we had the vote.
@Bainsworth Yes ... ha ha ha ha ha ha ... you brainless twat .. let's move our islands out of the continent of Europe!! Priceless!
Britain fought Italy and Germany for two years before The US entry, when every Continental nation,
except Sweden and Switzerland were occupied. Only Poland gets a "Pass" for bein' occupied, given it's
heroism against the'Blitzkrieg. Oh, about Britain, must also commend Canada and The Empire for their contributions to the defense of The Realm.
Tajani is just an Berlusconi's MP, nothing to worry about Lmao
There is nothing to laugh about... I still remember when European Union defeated Annibal. God bless EU
Yes and it created the European Union empire, it was around 400 Before Christ.
Lecter.
The European Union that wasn't even created until the 1960s somehow destroyed the Nazis. Brilliant knowledge of history Mr. Tajani.
As an American listening to this... I hate the EU because independent countries shouldn't be controlled by Brussels which is what the EU is doing... France doesn't need the EU... Same goes for the British & any country... You can all make Independent trade deals that will greatly benefit your countries over relying upon trade with the EU...
As far as ww1 & ww2 is concerned yes America played its part in helping to free Europe... No one should deny that. Yet every country played there part as well... Russia is the country that really broke Germany in WW2... If Germany never invaded Russia losing a million soldiers who knows how hard it would've been to defeat them... The USA did its part in giving the British what they needed in War materials to get by... We even gave Russia War Materials... The biggest part the USA played was fighting Japan.... You can hate America all you want but there is no denying the role they played in helping Europe in both world wars.
Never hated America but tge socialist element of the EU does. I'm hugely grateful & respectful to the role it's played as our ally in two horrific and bloody wars. I do fear though that we may be asking for their help again to keep the west free from radical Islam & Marxism which this bunch of EU cockroaches has imported or grown in our European nations.
What an unbelievable and narrow minded statement to make by Tanjani, and these are the people which have our future in their hands..... so the death of my uncle in France in ww2 is for nothing...........FFS......
bristol it’s also a degrading statement. The mans disgusting.
Yes the soviets won ww2 the uk wass just a little fish
The European Union was born in 1993. Before there was the EEC , which granted peace at least as much as the EU today, but didn't reduce the member states' sovereignty as the EU. Personally, I regret the EEC.
EEC and before that the European Common Market were only stepping stones to take us where we are today. It was a tactic they used . This is what they had in mind from the begiinning. and God knows where the rabbit hole will lead Certainly the destruction of Europe as we now know it, This is an evil institution worse than the Soviet Union. Had they proposed what we now have from the beginning nobody would have joined. I repeat the EU is an evil institution devised and ruled by the financial elite whose only concern is the New World Order.
Guy must still be pissed about what the Yanks did by showing up and bringing freedom to Europe back in the 40's or ....how his mom won't shut up about all the GIs she fell in love with!
Peace? How about: Armenia, former Yugoslavia, Ukraine, including the civil war in France and Ireland? It seems that this guy stuck his head in the sand since the second world war
Ivo Brasil Turkish invasion of Cyprus. The Hungarian revolution. Yes it appears this guy must not know all of his history after WW2
omg kiddos, the subject was narzism or the communist dictatorship!
why did he say "Until next spring you are members of the EU" .... WTF is going on .. does he mean leaving on Oct 31st will not happen ... some thing really stinks with the EU ....
24 october 2018
This Italian is from a different dimension
All Eurofanatics are.
@DwarvishPasty italy wasn't nazi, but fascist and in '43 there was a coup and started a civilwar.
He's just a moron
SINGAXIT: How Singapore Left Asia., a new production by writer, director & producer Nigel Farage starring Nigel Farage as himself. Nigel successful runs for the Parliament of Singapore only to begin tearing the city-state to shreds for not standing up for its British colonial past. He then successfully sues to get atlases & maps changed to show Singapore as part of the Australian continent. Who will be next? Tickets go on sale soon.
That man is in a senior position and doesn't realise that the Allies the UK with Empire troops and the USA liberated Europe, what a deeply ignorant and insulting man he is. And then to cap it all he demands respect for people like himself with deluded ideas of history!!!!
@@sachacek I agree that München 1938 was a terrible mistake, made by a old fool, who had memories of effects the previous war. But he can hardly be blamed for starting the war, he was desperately trying to avoid it.
If Britain had not stood alone against the Nazis, at massive cost, the history of Europe would have been very different. It is likely that is would be still be ruled by some tyranny of extreme right or left even now. Britain could easily have done a deal with the Nazis, fighting the British was not part of Hitlers plan.
Farage didn't just try to get the UK out of the EU. There were many years when that seemed impossible, so he tried to reform the EU. Tried to make it more democratic, more open, more accountable, criticised the ridiculous amount MEP's and executives could claim on expenses, and complained about using secret ballots, complained that proper accounts were not being kept. I can tell you that he frequently had a great deal of heckling and abuse in and around the EU parliament when he did those things.
But no doubt, like the BBC, your media edits out the abuse he often gets before and after his comments, and as he goes about his business.
@@sachacek Well Farage is not a natural politician, he never wanted to go into politics, he just hates the EU. He thinks and says with no filter in between. So at least you know what you are getting. Someone like president Shulz is a career politician, clever and devious. Even with the press on his side he is far more careful about what he says, but he is far more dangerous. For example he would frequently say there are Facsists amoung us, and would name no one, but stare fixededly at Farage every time.
Let me give you an example of an exchange between them.
Farage objects to a secret ballot.
Shulz says a secret ballot is perfectly normal, for they are an electorate.
Farage says that they are NOT an electorate, EVERYONE present is an employee, and their employers, the taxpayers are entitled to know how their employees vote on their behalf.
There is lots of heckling and some abuse shouted at Farage from some places in the chamber. There are two things many Eurocrats hate, openness and accountability.
To illustrate to the public how undemocratic the EU is Farage then points out that there was only one name on the ballot paper anyway, Junker.
Again ...heckling from around the chamber.
Shulz just ignores him and moves the topic on...
I could give many more examples of where Farage stands up for ordinary people and taxpayers, against people like Junker and Shulz.
.....Now who is the Fascist?
@@sachacek Did you not read my reply to you about secret ballots as one of many examples I could give.? Other than media propaganda there is no logical reason why you can link him to anything undemocratic. He has stood for more openness, more accountability more democracy within the EU itself all along. He is hated for those things. For most of his years there, he was probably better known for those actions, rather than trying to get the UK out of the EU because there was little hope of doing so.
For nearly two decades Farage has been warning the EU that if it did not become more democratic, more open, more accountable the extreme far right and the extreme far left would become more powerful. Across most of Europe (but not the UK, but that is for other reasons) that has been the case. The rise of these factions is because the EU has not listened to people like Farage, NOT because of him. Don't blame the messenger.
@@sachacek Well a start point would be to read all of my comment above which begins. "Well Farage is not a natural politician..."
There is also the two issues of ballot rigging, when votes are both secret and not overseen by the parties involved, ( and cannot be for in the grossly misnamed "parliament" where voting is mostly electronic) EU fraud is easy and almost impossible to prove. Secondly representatives may vote one way to get approval from people they work for/with/on behalf of, and then tell their electorate that they voted another, to get votes from their electorate.
There is no need for any secret ballots within the EU they are all employees, supposedly working for the taxpayer (ha ha).
@@sachacek He is not responsible for the mess we are in now. The mess we are in now is because John Major signed away democratic rights and powers of law making and governance over UK citizens, over to an unaccountable foreign organisation without ANY electoral consent, by way of manifesto or referendum. Calls for a referendum were blocked and denied for years. As anti EU parties started to rise, their way was blocked by both parties promising referendums, only to renege on those promises once in power and they realised what the outcome would be. Only after a quarter of a century, when polls showed a comfortable win for remain we we allowed ANY say in who rules over us or who we pay taxes to.
(on the way Blair/Brown signed us into the Lisbon treaty which got rid of rights of veto, and OK'd the EU Constitution. )
The Government, instead of providing a platform for sensible debate, began and ended the race to the bottom with an outrageous propaganda campaign using taxpayers money, and fantasy treasury reports.
All Farage has ever argued for is that we return to basic democratic principles and morals. He didn't get us into this mess, he spent 20 years of his life trying to get us out of it.
That's going to be one disturbing self-congratulatory echo chamber of willful ignorance when Britain leaves.
Jonny A when we leave together without you. Christian boi
werner van gelder Lol you’re in denial like the rest of them that the EU has failed.
Why are you still here?
Ahahahah have you taken a look at your parliament? A bunch of goats shouting at eachother.
A complete and frightening lack of historical knowledge. The EU is becoming dangerous to itself :(
all gangsta until risus abundat in ore stultorum
0:10 Tajani: "I don't think there are any people who are nostalgic for Nazism or the Communist dictatorship."
0:35 (Farage laughs)
1:00 Tajani: "You seem to be someone who is nostalgic for dictatorships yourself."
So it only took less than a minute and a laugh from Farage for Tajani to change his mind. Is this an example of how well thought out and grounded his views are?
There is nobody better than the man who I voted for to get my country out of the EU!! Love him wish he was the prime minister of my country!! 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Sophie Supermama such a good man that he promoted the “leave” and then just washed his hands off.
Pathetic.
Andrea Ukip didnt win the elections they have no say in Brexit. Prima di parlare di politica UK informati caprone.
You can't. the first thing he did was leave the sinking ship.
@@andrealeonti2967 - You fukcing idiot. He gave 25 years of his life to get us out of Europe. Isn't that enough for you - you selfish bastard.
He will be PM don't worry, your country deserves to be ruled by a crook.
WW2 ended in 1945, while the EU started in 1992. I know it's only a few decades off but seems to me a bit odd that a political union stopped a war which ended 47 years earlier… 🤔
Think you need to read a bit more about the History of the European Union, it started in 1951 and not 1992 as you say.
@@Marlborouk1 Think YOU need to actually look up the EU's history. It wasn't a political union until 1992. There was the EEC, which was about trade, and even if you were right about the when it started, it's still post-WW2 which means of course it didn't bring the downfall of Nazism.
@@katynewt i suggest you to learn about Europe history in house of European History and parlamentarium in bruxelles!
@@katynewt The EU developed from the ECSC which started in 1952. The formation of that Union mysteriously coincides with a period of rapid economic growth, the longest avoidance of a major European war, and growth democratic and diplomatic ties.
Nazism, I also would like to remind you, did not start in Germany nor end with the downfall of the Third Reich. It is a political system that is still supported by certain groups to this day, as is totalitarian Communism. Mysteriously, parties which support hard-right and hard-left Totalitarian systems also started becoming less popular as they had increasingly more difficulty making up European enemies.
I don't know, this must all, of course, be a huge coincidence.
That or perhaps the Union, promoting peace, actually helped in the destruction of harmful ideas by supplying people with a better one?
Roman Empire *intensifies*
Farage re-writing history by not mentioning the USSR's role in WWII.
Yes, he should have mentioned Russia defeating the Germans and... the Italians were Nazi supporters till they realised "mama mia! we are losing, lets join the Allies!"
Italian Fascists. FTFY.
The Russians were just as bad as the nazis, you guys do remember them invading Poland together?
Sara Skywalker They’re not arguing that the Soviet Union were good guys, they’re arguing for credit where credit is due. The USSR were terrible, but they did help tremendously in the restoration of peace across the globe (even though that started the Cold War)
@@tomon5598 the original argument from the Italian MP was that he EU brought down both Nazis and soviets, why would give credit to the soviets in an argument about bringing down that very same regime?
I'm italian and i apologyze for the embarassing intervention of Tajani...
Apology accepted on behalf of the UK, sir. We like Italians. Well, ALMOST all of you. There's just one we don't like very much...
No fear...Italy has the straight talking Mr Salvini.
che imbarazzo
let's get out of the EU ASAP! I'm confident it will collapse like an house of card right after
ah they're even trying to rewrite history, may I suggest you Mr Tajani to visit the Anzio war cemetery in order to see who saved who?
I'm so glad the you fucking idiots are getting out of EU, nobody will miss you.
@@ellelawliet1747
Oof, someone's having a bad day...
@@phloppywhoppy7476 nope, I'm just waiting.😁
Farage be like: tajani 1v1 in cod mw2
03:47 Yugoslavia be like: "Oh, I thought that those were bombs! It was European peace instead!"
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This Italian can insult Mr Farage ad nauseum but it would seem that the Italian must not be laughed at albeit what he said is totally absurd.
The museum of European history bizarrely charts history only from post 1945. Often one hears too that it is the EU which has created peace when we all know that it is NATO.
This Italian really has his knickers in a twist and I, like Nigel, would be laughing at the stupid statement and the puerile rant of abuse. He says respect several times but I doubt if he thinks respect is a two- way street and is something that is earned not demanded in civilised society.
And Mrs May and Remainers want to keep us under the authority of such EU idiots.
Thank goodness Silvini runs Italy for this Tajani is a basket case.
I suppose next we will hear that the Nazis were helping Jewish persons back in the 1940s and not exterminating them. Perhaps that fascists in Italy were victims too?
When one sees the mindset, manners , rhetoric of EU mandarins toward the UK and Hungary it is not surprising that Brexit happened and was right to. The insults bullying and demands by the EU are preposterous and show them in their true light and in fact shows too that cordiale after 40 years is little more than a facade and totally conditional on being sycophantic to the EU dream.
EU trade is only worth 10% GDP; there are 504m persons. Surely trading with the world where there are billions off persons we could easily gain this 10% allegedly to be lost and we would not have endless times and money wasted on facile EU meetings etc. We should be putting all our effort in to getting world trade set up with those who want to deal with us freely and sensibly and not with EU who only deal in negative and barriers and protracted nonsensical narrative and charge us exorbitant fees for the privilege.
Now Tajani's Political Party lost a lot in last European Elections.
S tanner Mr. Salvini is out now! 😎 We hope the UK go out to UE fast! We hope.... we hope to close the UK border and return to customs duties.
Then we'll laugh ...🤞
Farage is a legend.
for donkey standards yes!
@Angel of Justice thank god we are more than 20 developed economies, you need us more than we need you!
@@pietrowideshutfurfaro9900 haha why do you think we keep getting extensions ;) this union will be finished once we have left Germany is already In decline. Nice try though :)
@@jamier7785 1. Germany is not in decline.
2. This union has been here for more than your life.
3. Get the hell off so you will see what will be the so-called freedom that you ask for.
4. You are a fool
@@pietrowideshutfurfaro9900 the union is finished just look at Italy and Poland they will be next and yes we will enjoy the freedom and our fish and the money we will be saving - incase u didn't know there are other country's not in the EU who actually trade with each other and survive ;) again good try.
Allied (non EU) victory over nazi Germany: 1945.
Death of Stalin by illness: 1953.
Treaty of Rome (only NATO countries): 1957.
Fall of Berlin wall: 1989.
End of USSR: 1991.
Establishing of the European Union: 1993.
First enlargement of the EU to former Warsaw Pact countries: 2004.
Please, respect the utter ignorance of Antonio Tajani!
How much is that Italian clown paid? HOW MUCH? Has he even opened a history textbook? This is historic revisionism at its worst..
Not English.....
The 1918 Treaty of Versailles, imposed on Germany by France & Britain at the insistence of the banks that'd financed WW1, made WW2 inevitable.
@@andrealeonti2967 communism defeated by allies ?
Eu wasn't even about in the second world war
It’s typical leftist revisionism.
THATS NOT THE POINT
Yeah it was called the Nazi party
@@amelcamel858 The EEC was there since the 70s, so...
Yeah, because as we all know, 70 years of peace is common place in Europ-- oh... this is weird. Huh, lo-- no, no, constant war in Europe. That's weird, the period of peace started after the creation of the ECSC, which became the EEC, and then the EU.
Weird. It's almost like the formation of this Economic (and then also political) Union made EU countries so reliant and intertangled that war was no longer possible.
That or mysteriously we have a huge coincidence that major European wars ceased right after.
@Amel Camel The EU used to be the EEC which did exist throughout the Cold War.
In addition to Mr Tajani's ludicrous claims about the EU defeating Nazism and Communism, it must be remembered that the EU was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2012 - and it was collected in Stockholm by the Numpty triumverate - Messrs Jose-Manuel Barroso, Herman Van Rompuy and Martin Schulz - who accepted it without even having the decency to blush. The EU.. motto: Rewriting History since 1957.
Correction, the UK has joined the European Community, not that cesspool which is our current EU.
This man stay in European union and hi ripresenta Italian people, oh my God incredible
Tajani is just like the rest of his ilk. He suffers with delusions of grandeur.
And there's me thinking Italy was a fascist state in ww2, silly me.
Halfway through until they saw the Germans how they really are. Thankfully, they're seeing it again.
@Albert Kastrioti British and Canadian armies as well as the Americans. After
Italians were incompetent they got their ass kicked in Greece that pissed off hitler
Rich Lee Italians are not fighters? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 have you ever heard about the Romans Empire fucking ignorant!?! Right now your are speaking a Latin language, man. Latin was the language of the Romans. The English language ( and Americans as well ) come from the Latin man. All of you, all the western countries exist just because Romans for one thousand years ruled the world. “ITALIANS ARE NOT FIGHTERS” 😂 you have to study the history as Tayani sad to the very arrogant Mr Farange.
Nicola Rossi well English doesn’t come from Latin but it is a Celtic-Germanic language surely it has some influence from Latin but mainly it’s Celtic
There's a Latin quote that says " Whatever is said in Latin sounds more serious"