If Hollywood ever dares to touch it, we’re gonna have major problems! Also, in my personal opinion, if they ever dared to remake Ferris Bueller’s Day Off (my favorite film of all time), I’m gonna go to war against Hollywood!
Yea because they couldn't compete with the t.3000 like seriously the rev 9 struggled against the t.800 it would get destroyed if the the t.3000 came at it
Jeremey Esquivel No one said it lived up to T2, it’s just the best-told sequel since that film. T2 and T1 are in “excellent” territory while Dark Fate is “meh 👍🏻”
The movie kills off the white male future savior and humbles the white male robot hero, then replaces them both with the diversity female future savior, and white female robot heroine. Reviewers with a social agenda don't have a choice but to praise the film.
Kyle Reese in The Terminator said it best: "The Terminator is out there. It can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are DEAD."
A sound analysis. You’re missing a major thematic point: terminator 2 was about an absent father and a boy who found a father figure who ultimately had to die.
It’s ending also concluded that machines were actually capable of understanding empathy and love. “I know now why you cry....” practically was a means to an end even if skynet happens. They threw that all away
Adrian Naranjo Please let there not be a future for Terminator...it needed to end after T2...if Dark Fate bombs hard enough, maybe it’ll be the last one
I don't understand why a lot of people are shiting on this film, not saying that you are actually your review was spot on, but others are not as kind, let's be fair now the acting was very good, the CGI was believable, the action was intense I agree clustered but not over the top. A fresh start to the Terminator is not a bad thing, now that we have this film lets see what crazy shit they come up with next, I'm looking forward to a new Terminator future. Good review thanks for not shiting on this film I liked it.
@@Paulzpc Agreed. I've been asking for an all female terminator film with Schwarzenegger's T-800 taking a back seat to a 65 year old Linda Hamilton for years now.
@@grape9926 That’s just it. Terminator and Alien movies shouldn’t just be “fine”. They should’ve quit while they were ahead and left Terminator as two movies. Alien franchise still had more potential after Aliens but they never captured it.
@@grape9926 not at all compared to 1 and 2. It's ok, but nothing to brag about. It was like jamming philosophy and action and horror and a hundred other things into one movie
@Anime is Beautiful this movie was so bad though and the bad Terminator just went and made a family...why? He was also texting her and telling her where the terminators would come because.....and then Sarah Connor is telling dumb mexican girl she is not important just her womb, when Sarah Connor prevented Skynet and killed all these terminators it made no sense.
@@darthcaedus9130 And they completely screwed it up, unfortunately if I want to see the war done right I have to just watch the flashback sequences in the first movie.
I like to picture it as being T1, T2, TSC, ROTM and then Salvation. Genisys was really about a "What If...?" storyline, and Dark Fate wanted to continue the *actual* story, which completely retconned everything that came before and even after it.
Yeah, right! It was the first time on spoiler review I thought: I don't care about spoilers. I didn't watch this movie because it sucks and the plot won't surprise me anyway. So it really doesn't matter.
1984: It can't be reasoned with, it can't be bargained with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. 2019: I'm a family man now. I think I see the problem.
Oh man, this right here. In T2 they had to take out the CPU and do some stuff because Terminators are "read-only" mode so they can't learn or think too much on their own. But once it kills John Conner suddenly it is self aware and can learn on it's own now ... ? There's a lot of issues with this movie that bugged me a lot. But the action scenes were great.
I think you need to think of it this way, an ai is artificial intellegence its a life form. it can grow, develop and adapt. If it doesnt, its just a robot programmed to do exactly one thing, and when the terminators are in contact with their neural network or the primary ai they are just fullfilling the primary Ais will, But its an interesting idea to think, what happens when an ai is set free like he was in this movie. He no longer gets commands and the instructions and goal has been accomplished. A Terminator needs to be able to infiltrate, and blend in with its surroundings, it needs to be human like, so there has to be an element of free will. if it accomplised its inital goal without ai it would just shut down and stop. An ai needs to be able to think for itself and learn. And Its happened before when arny fought back against the kill command. So if it could do that, obviously its not so far fetched that one could grow over 20 plus years.
But thats the thing. The terminator isn't in contact with any network once they're sent back in time. It should've just shut down if it had finished its mission. I'm sorry I just can't bring myself to feel convinced it was set free and just adapts human life. It's way too ridiculous especially as a terminator film
The reason I hated it so much is that they didn't care how it affects Terminator 2 or how it fits into the story as a whole, they just did it purely for shock value
@@benm5970 It felt like something that i cared for all these years all a sudden didn't matter. The future is female so John Connor cant be the savior for mankind.
Vidya Bros. That gives me an idea...I’m going to buy a ticket for another movie...walk into Dark Fate just so I can say out loud in the opening scene, “that’s bullshit! I’m outta here”, then go into the movie I actually paid for
Might I recommend the movie Upgrade? It's not part of the Terminator franchise, of course, but the writer/director has stated that it was an influence. It's a great, smartly written SciFi/action/body horror movie that was made on a low budget but doesn't look it, with good performances, awesome action and a killer ending, and it deserves more love.
@@Gouthamedara It's so awesome! Marketing was shit, though; I didn't even hear about it till months after it left theaters. But it seems to be developing a cult following.
So they killed John to be finally able to tell a new story. Just to tell the exact same story but with a female savior, who can't act to save her live. Slow clap.
I was born in 87. I used to watch T2 on VHS. The first time seeing it. I didn't realize why as a kid. I do now that I am older. I cried my ass off when Arni was lowered into the Lava and John was balling his eyes out.... The memories.
How are you doing now , sir? Respect. You might have seen so much in your life, advance of technology. Salute. hope you read this comment. I don't want to be negative. God bless you. Rear to read a comment like this . Couldn't stop myself replying
Wasn’t it James Cameron who said about Alien 3: "The decision to eliminate Newt and Hicks was dumb. I thought it was a huge slap in the face to the fans." This is how I feel....
Colonel Falcon I didn’t know anything about the alien movies so naturally I binged them recently! I couldn’t believe it...I was amazed with Aliens and alien 3 just broke my heart, made me lose a little interest, somehow I made it to 4. Not even gonna touch on Prometheus or Convenant SMH
Terminator dark fate is the same movie as alien 3.... and I'd like to imagine that neither happened and I dont understand how Cameron gave this movie a green light.
@@christophermarabella5683 not really. Hes dead pretty well from the start just so they can have the t800 from t2 back. A cheap swap for side character development seeing as sarah or Arnie arnt even main characters in all seriousness. Not to mention Arnie dies and they dont prevent new judgement day.... and it still ruins the whole point of t2 for the sake of this rerun plot.
Axel Bergström was thinking the same thing except I thought it would be a direct sequel to T2 and wipe out the rest of the timeline. And more than likely it’ll be disappointing
And it will feature a transwoman giving birth to the T-1,000,000, a nano-technorganic multiphasic gaseous Terminator that targets Trump voters. It's created by the super-AI, the REEEEEEEEEE.exe program.
I was watching another reviewer & his fake energy & shitty attempt at comedy made me look for something else less than 2 minutes in. This tone here works for me. Lets you focus on the actual review instead of the reviewer.
8:40 In Terminator 2, while kid John is talking to the terminator, John asks him if he can learn so he can become more human, and Arnold says that he does learn, the more he is around humans the more his is like them.
He meant more human as in learning to act more human. In terms of actually being a human with actual emotions, it can’t happen. He said himself that he can never cry like John did, even after learning why he cried.
I don't get the hate for Salvation. It was ok, they risked a lot with a new story and give closure to the future timeline and they didn't bring back Arnold (except for the cgi fight).
People naturally like to compare movies in the same franchise. Many think that all the sequels are shit besides Terminator Judgment Day, but I quite enjoy Terminator 3 and actually like Terminator Salvation too. Obviously, no sequels will EVER live up to the expectation of Terminator 2 and be able to replicate the dread displayed in T1. But at the very LEAST, Salvation introduced a new perspective into the franchise that hasn't really been explored. On the other hand, Genisys is just bad....that I can agree with the general audience. Dark Fate I would say is better than Genisys even though the script/story is just as bad if not worse than Genisys........If you REALLY think about it, the plot of Dark Fate is basically a rehash of Salvation AND Genisys to an extent.....
Legion = new skynet Dani = new John connor Grace= new Kyle reese since she volunteered to save her like Kyle volunteered to save Sarah Rev 9= new TX The future war in dark fate is during the day just like salvation! TDF= new t3, t3 kills Sarah and keeps John alive, dark fate kills John and keeps Sarah alive. That is a lot of rehashed ideas here!
I fuckin' knew it. Bastard was too busy obsessing over his Avatar franchise and crossing his fingers for a strong superhero fatigue. What happened, Cameron?! You had no fuckin' excuse for letting this movie turn out so horribly! You know what? Screw it! I'm sticking to Halloween 2018 and Force Awakens. At least those films were made by filmmakers that actually gave a shit about the fans. Sure, neither of them are five-star masterpieces but it's better to have imperfect products that at least had their hearts in the right place as opposed to a broken mess that unnecessarily spits in the faces of not just the original masterpieces but their fans as well in a distasteful manner.
I'd say T3 ended it, because the film franchise kind of went like this: 1st movie - Future robots try to change the past.... can't 2nd movie - Current-day humans try to change the future .... can't 3rd movie - both sides try again, both sides fail, and at one point it's explicitly stated, neither side can escape their destiny, then judgement day happens. Artistically, and by feel, it ended with T2. But it was ambiguous at the end of T2: did the humans succeed in not only resisting future robots, but in preventing that future from occurring? We never knew, and I was OK with that, but T3 ended all debates: John will be survive, John will lead the rebellion, Skynet will rise, judgement day will happen, and then Skynet will be defeated. At least "Terminator Salvation" did address far-future concerns, though I thought it was a superfluous movie, and merely existed in the "Terminator universe" as opposed to being part of the story. "Genysis" had this retarded part between the opening and closing credits, but was otherwise mediocre.
@@alejandrovillalba3143 To be honest, we had a lot of badass women in the Terminator movie's from Sarah Conner to the T-X, but I agree with you when you say this is overkill
It was the best after the first two IMO. If it was just a stand alone future war movie it would be awesome, but it tried to be more complex that it needed to be and the special effects were for sure worse than the first two.
When Carl said "After this I won't be back" I think it was actually Arnold saying to the fans that he either won't be around for long to be in another terminator movie or that he knows that the series is getting bad and he doesn't want to be apart of it anymore
Arnie doesnt need the money so he should have had the integrity to say NO after T2......they were both MASTERPIECES and it should have ended there for HIM!
I think it was just in the script and that's it. I think they didn't contemplate his character for the sequels that will never be made because they couldn't find a way because killing his character it was more "emotional" for this movie.
That scene did disappoint me exponentially. I have no idea why they even hyped the return of Edward Furlong in the first place in order for that to occur. But it didn't deter me from enjoying the entertainment value of "Dark Fate", in fact, quite the opposite took place for me. The new timeline with 2042 was interesting and fresh that it made me want to see the 2042 war with Legion.
Mackenzie Davis was wasted on this movie. Girl has so much talent and potential for action roles, and this movie just pissed all of that right down the tube with such a mediocre script. I really hope she's able to get involved in other projects later on that aren't repackaged garbage.
I completely agree. She was awesome in this movie only great thing about this movie. I thought Linda was awful and Arnold part being a family guy stupid as hell. Action scenes were over the top b.s and the girl who played John Connor horrible actress.
True, she was my favourite part of the movie. She's really good at becoming an action star but I wish she have chosen better scripts. I'm interested in seeing her like in the MCU, DCEU, John Wick, Bourne or even other action movie franchise cuz she's pretty good at kicking ass. She deserved so much better and I do think this movie was semi watchable just because of her
Marco Silva Uhmmm, if they fail their mission, they get terminated. Terminators are not sentient nor do they have a reason to peacefully integrate themselves with human beings
Ethan Berry i didn’t say they were sentient. But they could still continue on within society and further accelerate skynet’s creation, no? Either way, in this case, arnold’s character seems to have integrated into society after his mission was complete. They don’t simply “shutdown”.
Terminator Salvation is still one of my favorites for the simple fact that it's a fresh take on the franchise with new characters in a fixed non-time-traveling timeline. The fact that the movie takes place post-apocalypse is what got me excited for the movie. Skynet was much more self aware and also it was the first Terminator movie to introduce a human-terminator hybrid. That blew my mind when I first saw that in theaters and I'll never forget it.
People give salvation a lot of hate. It deserves some because there were issues with the movie like dialog, pacing, character develpoment etc. But people don't take into account some external factors that was holding the movie down: * First terminator movie to not feature Arnold(he was still the governor), the brand has been associated with Arnold so much, it couldn't afford to lose his presence without a proper send-off. * Fans complained that it didn't have those plasma rifle weapons we saw in T1, T2 flashbacks(maybe the sequels might have featured it) * It didn't have an R rating, was the first PG13 terminator. Salvation really suffered from the lack of gory kills and injuries, considering it was supposed to be a war movie. * Also the director of that movie didn't have a good reputation among the critics and that leaked on-set shouting of Bale. If these problems weren't there, I'm sure it would've made more money and we could've got the salvation sequels. Salvation was supposed to give us 2 more sequels ending with the defeat of skynet. They should've hired Tim Miller to direct a sequel to salvation, not a reboot. (copied comment)
Salvation is one of my favorite movies of a post apocalyptic world. Alice In Chains playing on the car radio when they jump started the Jeep and they take a moment to appreciate the “old world”. RIP Anton Yelchin (Kyle Reese)
I thought it was interesting that they showed skynet try something different with a humanoid Terminator instead of sending something back in time. Even skynet didn't want to recycle its own storyline.
You are a complete Dumbass ( dont take this seriously ) if u thought John Conner was gonna play a big role in the movie even after the trailers dropped and leaks were considered true...
@@Megaproductions302 then you are sick of the franchise. John and sarah connor, skynet ,kyle reese. they are the core of the story being told here. IF you are sick of them, you are sick of the story. By scrapping all the original characters, all they've done is attempt to tell a brand new story but slap the word "terminator" on it, for the buckazaoids. But they failed at the "new" story, because this shit is just a beat for beat repeat of the old story, except fake looking. This last decade has been cash grab franchise brand rape reboots. Studios churning out garbage because garbage also makes money so why bother trying...
That face says it all lol. What they did to John is as insulting as what Alien 3 did to Newt and Hicks, but more insulting. Edit; Chris name dropped Alien 3 as well lol. I posted comment before watching the video 😂
At least when they did Newt and Hicks dirty it wasn't for the sake of feminism and identity politics. White people really need to stop spreading white guilt, grow a spine, and realize that a lot of us minorities don't like this "woke" bullshit either.
I don't understand why they just didn't retcon alien 3 by having a new movie ignore the events. If that one. Focus on the drama between Ripley and her daughter not being close and how newt is almost more like daughter then she is. And have the xenomorphs come to earth and we can see what it looks like in the future.
Terminator 3 : "I screwed up big time" Terminator Salvation : "Nah, I've done worse" Terminator Genisys : "Ha! Ha! Remember me?" Terminator Dark Fate : "Hold my dead John Connor"
T3 was masterpiece next to this mess. I think they just need to go deeper in lore and let Sarah and John Connor stories rest for while. Salvation is best Terminator movie after 1 and 2 for me. Christian Bale made good job as John Connor. Not best plot, but something different.
Sorry to disagree, but T3 is awful also. It's basically a shot per shot recreation of T2, which shows how poorly made that movie was. The only two things that are true to the Terminator franchise are these: the first two movies are timeless classics, the rest just keeping getting worse and worse within each installment.
It wasn't even a war movie, not even close. The Kyle Reese flashback scenes from T1 and the opening sequence from T2, THAT was the war between Skynet vs the resistance.
That movie was badass and I think a movie where skynet and legion have a world war would be cool.... especially cuz they can still bring back John cuz time travel
@Harry Potter Still it was a necessary continueing of the franchise. Otherwise you just do the same T2 movie over and over again. Now we have feminist version of T2. With CGI. I watched 20 minutes so far and saw already 5 times how a woman is telling a man what to do. Its about woman, woman, woman, woman, woman and crappy CGI and then theres superhigh CGI-jumps nobody could ever survive and everything ist faster, harder, more CGI. Characters = zero. Buty hey, at least there are woman, woman, woman, woman and a cheap telenovela-mexiacan-story. Dark fate is not only the worst Terminator movie, its an extreme example of a bad movie overall. Total waste of your life time!
@Akilleus If critics are irrelevant, this movie must be amazing since it has an 86% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes! Was very surprised to see that given all the negativity. Yet its imdb score is 6.5. By contrast, The Last Jedi's situation is completely reversed - good imdb score, awful RT audience score.
goes to show these guys had no clue and it's cluelessness through the board. from the writer to the marketing guy. all had no flucking clue. fascinating.
The main issue I have with this film is the termination of John Connor. John Connor is one of the most important characters in the history of film and it was a really bad idea just to kill him off. Imagine if George Lucas killed off Luke Skywalker in The Empire Strikes Back. The Return of the Jedi would be a useless film. You can't kill off important characters in a film if you want to keep the franchise going. When I saw that opening scene where John gets killed I thought to myself: They just killed the legendary character John Connor and ousted him from the franchise like he didn't exist. However, I did love the action scenes, the character Grace, Mackenzie did a great job, and that's about it. One character and actions scenes doesn't make a movie great. It seems like they tried to make this film be on the level of Terminator 2 Judgement Day. and failed drastically. As you saw in the film they had references to T2. The playground scene at the end, the T-800 sacrificing himself at the end while Dani and Sarah stand above, and several other scenes.
Yeah but if John Connor survives, you have a white male saving humanity and nowadays, it needs to be a STRoNG iNDePeNDeNT FeMaLe or someone will try and cancel the movie.
hah JC died when Edward Furlong went off the deep end... plus Cameron was done with Terminator anyway after 2. I was completely OK with a Terminator wasting JC because two of the movies had already disrespectfully retconned Cameron's canon (this means things were changed in the T3/T5 timelines before their time travel events happened), and really it was about the only big twist left to be done in the franchise anyway. I took it as a "holy shit!" twist, and it worked. It peeled my eyes open for a while. Does every Terminator timeline need John Connor to save humanity? T4 proved: nope! He was mostly shunned anyway by his own people outside of the "prophecies" he made. Anybody could have stepped into the role beyond what he knew from T2+T3, and that knowledge was only going to go so far.
Fun fact: James Cameron said that he didn’t liked what Alien 3 did to Newt. I agree with him, but why is he okay with killing John in the first scene? That doesn’t make any sense
@MATT CYPRESS if you are a gamer I would seriously recommend you play Terminator Resistance. It really gives you a sense why Reese was the way he was. And the ending is beyond words. I think that game is what Terminator 2 should have been.
Literally every thumbnail could be captioned either: "Duuuuuuuuhhhhhh!"; "Deeeeeeaaaaahhhh!"; "Orrrrrrrrhhhhhhhh!"; or "Heeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhh!" It's so strange clicking on the video and hearing a cogent, knowledgeable review. I always expect just a dude making random noises while intermittently clapping his hands only using the palms. Bless him.
My biggest problem with the evil Terminator after the second movie is that every one of them seems less menacing than t-1000. T-1000 with his abilities was so ultimate, that no one can top that and each seems to be a step backward in their evolution. Also, Rev-9 was Venom - I mean, black goo, separatable like a symbiont, tendrils... right? :)
I mean, it actually made sense to do such. I guess they didn't realize that more terminators would keep coming back to stop John; it wouldn't be a one-off attempt. So yes, realistically he would probably die.
@@IamNinjaOfNinja I bet originally she wasnt even "enhanced", she was just a Mary Sue, but then they realized their would be backlash, so they threw in that line...
Here's a valid question. Why didn't he kill both John and Sarah. He had them at gun point and both were unarmed. Why didn't he kill them and then walk off to the next military base, to let them disassemble and study him? You know, give them a head start into developing Legion/Skynet.
Probably because ihe didn't have any orders to do so. Sarah was only an actual target before she gave birth, in T2 she only was of interest as a means to get to John. Since he already had terminated John, Sarah was completely irrelevant to him, and if he had no specific instructions to ensure Skynets creation if necessary after potential fallout of the time meddeling, he probably had no drive to do that either.
I still dont understand how he (Carl mr. drapery T-800) knows where other Terminators from Legion are entering the timeline. Hes a Skynet product. How does he know about Legion?!? Lol. I will text Sarah Connor about these other Terminators. Forgive me. For John. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@@danlayson9623 He explains that he can essentially "sense" it due to a disturbance that occurs a little while prior to each portal opening up. At that point, wouldn't really matter what organization created which terminator, since they all seem to use the same method of time traveling. So as soon as he notices when one's going to happen, he gives her the coordinates, since it's 99% likely that whoever's fucking with time travel is probably a terminator.
You know what they need to go old fashion with actual explosions and props... All that CG looks so fake. I feel like they people they hire to write this million dollar movies are high schoolers with not talent yet. They are so bad.
I can see why not everyone liked it but seeing Linda Hamilton and Arnold back together was so much fun and Mackenzie Davis was a great new addition. The new bad guy wasn't as good as the one in T2 but still very enjoyable
I don't have a problem with T-3 because the end pretty much sends John Connor in a base to prepare him for his future mission and the Armageddon happens so it doesn't contradict anything. It says the whole thing was innevitable. And Salvation you see the future and John Connor kicking robot ass. It's after that where they tried forcing the issue with non-sense(like in Genysis somehow John Connor becomes the villain lol)
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 There was no need for T3, All the characters had a perfect arch and closure, the story was also perfected, the crisis was averted. T3 just another Terminator and it was ridiculous, the female one was over the top in all aspects. When you consider her abilities it would have been game over in the first scene they met. The whole film was just setting up excuses for action scenes and then having the action scenes. John Connor was ridiculous and then the silly end. A true T3 film could only have been about the life after the tragic events, sooner kind of drama film about Sarah having to pick her life up again and dealing with the aftermath, same with John. Why? Because in T2, Skynet was averted, the whole future timeline was averted. Hence the director was unwilling to just use the Terminator storyline and just change a few things for the money grab since its popularity assured profits. T2 was the end. The rest is just greed inspired rubbish. Still have to watch Dark Fate, but it most likely won't change my opinion.
The Terminator franchise doesn't deserve a fucking canon. All they do since T2 is shit the bed, realize they fucked up and make a sequel that ignores everything after T2 all over again. The only really good Terminator content since T2 was the Sarah Connor Chronicles and they fucking cancelled that. Fuck this franchise.
As usual, they filmed the scenes they thought would be badass first, then cobbled together a script to fit the scenes. Write a good STORY first. Then have that the reason to make the film.
@@sincord1 I actually believe that, but I think they put his name in there to try to sell more tickets. I don't believe he had any power or any real say.
To summarize the entire propose of this film in two points: 1. Kill the male savior figure; make them female instead. 2. Kill the male protector figure; make them female instead. Girl power.
@Snehil Shrey the only recent male led agenda driven ones I can think of are Rambo "lets kill Mexicans" Last Blood and the Modern Warfare remake which doesn't contain any good male Arabs despite Black Ops 2 making progress on that.
@Snehil Shrey Thanks to the original movie from 1984...that someone needs reminding of. Because getting woke matters when you actually earn it and by not feeding agenda on promos prior to release. This one deserves to flop hard.
@@arubinojr5670 I think Chris Stuckmann can explain it better. One of his recent reviews mentioned he pitched some scripts and they weren't approved because they didn't "talk about modern social issues" or something to that effect. I am saying this a hardcore anyone but Trump democrat. That is the "agenda" people are talking about, throwing away male leads, shoehorning in plots about gender or sexuality(while somehow excluding race, particularly Indians/Pakistanis/Arabs or non-Mexican brown people, particularly men). My other stake in this is that it alienates swing voters into voting for those Nazis if you put this requirement in every modern script before approving it and I REALLY want Dems or an anti-Trump Republican to win in 2020.
I think Terminator Films keep failing is they keep doing a remake of Terminator 2. Salvation is the only thing that had something new to offer but the execution wasn't well done.
Back to the future is only beloved 80s franchise that has been untouched by Hollywood
ablurt_55 that’s because Bob Gale the co-creator of Back to the Future said over his dead body that anyone touches it. He owns the rights.
Hollywood is still waiting patiently for all the BTTF creators to die before they can Snatch the rights & reboot/remake/requel it.
@@herkybig78 maybe someone comes up with a great idea and makes a great sequel to it, and *it's good for real*
So far...
If Hollywood ever dares to touch it, we’re gonna have major problems!
Also, in my personal opinion, if they ever dared to remake Ferris Bueller’s Day Off (my favorite film of all time), I’m gonna go to war against Hollywood!
Considering this film is bombing in the US and not doing as well overseas as Genysis. This series might finally be terminated...
Jaxson Shoemaker You did not not just I-
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Yea because they couldn't compete with the t.3000 like seriously the rev 9 struggled against the t.800 it would get destroyed if the the t.3000 came at it
Jaxson Shoemaker yeah, I have a 3 strikes and you’re out rule. If you have 3 movies that most people hate/dislike in a row then it’s a dead franchise.
Hopefully.
I can’t believe people out there are giving this movie such high praise and saying it lives up to T2. They have no idea what made T2 so special.
They are mostly reviewers getting paid to say it’s good
Jeremey Esquivel No one said it lived up to T2, it’s just the best-told sequel since that film. T2 and T1 are in “excellent” territory while Dark Fate is “meh 👍🏻”
IMDB deleted my review. They deleted my Captain Marvel review too. Lol.
Ben Wasserman dude, I’ve been seeing a TON of reviews of people all over IG and RUclips saying it lives up to T2. That’s the biggest selling point.
The movie kills off the white male future savior and humbles the white male robot hero, then replaces them both with the diversity female future savior, and white female robot heroine. Reviewers with a social agenda don't have a choice but to praise the film.
Kyle Reese in The Terminator said it best: "The Terminator is out there. It can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are DEAD."
True. And after that the franchise was dead.
If that’s supposed to be a comment against „Carl“ developing a conscience; Context matters, dude.
@@robinanwaldt I think most people who watched the video from start to finish would know what I'm talking about.
finegamingconnoisseur I know what you’re talking about. I’m just saying that everything should be viewed within its own context.
"... until you are DEAD." Well, thats the whole point- John was in fact dead. The mission was complete.
I cant wait for “Terminator 7: lets try this again”
You do know that Dark Fate erased the 3 movies after Judgement Day right?
Fuck no more Political Correctness Skynet about send T-800 101 in 2029 to 1984 starts crying says no John Connor you must Terminate me.
It over
Will Arnold finally return to play The Terminator?
King K. Rool they can’t now with this new story
A sound analysis. You’re missing a major thematic point: terminator 2 was about an absent father and a boy who found a father figure who ultimately had to die.
But this is a brilliant film as it replaces male white action heroes with Mexican tampon power.
Thomas Harris that wasn’t what it was solely about, but that was one thing. Another big idea it relies on us choosing your own fate.
It’s ending also concluded that machines were actually capable of understanding empathy and love. “I know now why you cry....” practically was a means to an end even if skynet happens. They threw that all away
@@sterlinga8307 " Mexican tampon power." 🤣🤣
@dr x Mexicans speaking spanish? Really???
The de-aging was brilliantly done.
That’s about the only positive I have for this movie...
I agree I will give them that..it blew me away how good it look.. actually like creepy..how technology has gotten
I don't know, maybe in theaters it looked good, but when I saw the camrip of this scene, it looked like pre-rendered videogame cutscene.
It's not saying much when one guy on RUclips (Ctrl Shift Face) can do as good of a job as a huge film studio with big money behind it.
Helps when they don't talk and Arnold was wearing glasses
strugen
Good point...also the scene sucks balls because of what happens in it
The best thing that came out of this movie is my newfound appreciation for both Rise of the Machines and Salvation.
For me t3 is the best sequel after t2
This movie is better than both.
@@Maverick.D. quit joking
@@Maverick.D. It is. People are just pissed at the John Connor thing, but Sarah Connor has always been the main character.
@@LorenzoDoesntExist the whole fate of humanity revolves around John Conner. Did you even understand the premise of these films?
"Let's destroy what came before, and replace it with something that is absolutely INFERIOR in every single way to the originals"
Do you mean; "Let's not even try anymore!" Alright, got it.
Yeah, let's replace it with something that's basically the same thing with a new name and none of the charm of the earlier one.
Lets not forget the political stuff aimed at the president
hey man, thats the Disney motto!
But it has all women now so it has to be better right?
Sincerely,
2019
The female John Connor was annoying the whole film. It’s like James and Tim wanted to make her as unlikeable as possible
She couldn't act for shit either
@P P Sexy*
@P P stfu
As The Critical Drinker refers to her, “the generic female” lol.
Fuck yea
The only dark fate is the future of this franchise
Adrian Naranjo
Please let there not be a future for Terminator...it needed to end after T2...if Dark Fate bombs hard enough, maybe it’ll be the last one
I’d be ok with that. At least we got Linda and Arnie reunited one more time.
They'll probably reboot the original with Channing Tatum as the T-800 & Kirsten Stewart as Sarah Connor.
It’s only made 25 million so far.....
I think the present and the recent past also had a pretty dark fate.
Terminator 4: Salvation
Terminator 5: Genesys
Terminator 6: Dark Fate
Terminator 7: Just Stop Already
Direct sequels doesn’t use numbers so it’s just “Terminator: Dark Fate”
Terminator: beating a dead horse
Terminator 3 and on: It was all a dream Arnold Terminator is having while he is smelting in the steel works.
@Major Gear hahahahah
Yes!
John Connor: *exists in this movie*
Everybody: "Look at how they massacred my boy."
Damn.
The town of brightburn: exists
You: "and not just the men... but the women, and the children too"
I don't understand why a lot of people are shiting on this film, not saying that you are actually your review was spot on, but others are not as kind, let's be fair now the acting was very good, the CGI was believable, the action was intense I agree clustered but not over the top.
A fresh start to the Terminator is not a bad thing, now that we have this film lets see what crazy shit they come up with next, I'm looking forward to a new Terminator future.
Good review thanks for not shiting on this film I liked it.
@@Paulzpc Agreed. I've been asking for an all female terminator film with Schwarzenegger's T-800 taking a back seat to a 65 year old Linda Hamilton for years now.
@@Paulzpc There won't be this thing is bombing at the box office like it should!
For the first time, Schwarzenegger said
“ I won’t be back.”
They just killed the franchise.
Welp Schwarzenegger is like 70 so.. move on from him.
@Riven326 Exactly!
@@DarkAttackYT James Cameron is the heart n soul of the franchise n the story ended with t2
Yes they did! Trilogy was just cancelled! 😂😆
That's not what killed it, this was a good line
My favorite thing in the world is trying to guess if Chris’s reviews are going to be positive or negative by looking purely on just his thumbnail
He's the king of potential clickbait 😂😂😂😂
I agree. Chris could make it a guessing game on Twitter.
😂😂😂
@Nanz Calrissian wow, you seem to be fun to be around
In an alternate universe, both the Terminator and Alien series ended after their second movies...
ehhh I think Prometheus is fine
@@grape9926 That’s just it. Terminator and Alien movies shouldn’t just be “fine”. They should’ve quit while they were ahead and left Terminator as two movies. Alien franchise still had more potential after Aliens but they never captured it.
@@grape9926 not at all compared to 1 and 2. It's ok, but nothing to brag about. It was like jamming philosophy and action and horror and a hundred other things into one movie
I thought salvation was good, different...and alien 3 directors cut and prometheous were good...👍
And Matrix
Everyone talking about John connor being shot in this movie and being outraged.
I'm still pissed about John Connor being the main villain in Genysis!!
@True Blue 92 no one liked Genysis, this was just as bad as that.
Max Attax shockingly enough, the killing of John Connor was James Cameron’s idea all along.
@Anime is Beautiful this movie was so bad though and the bad Terminator just went and made a family...why? He was also texting her and telling her where the terminators would come because.....and then Sarah Connor is telling dumb mexican girl she is not important just her womb, when Sarah Connor prevented Skynet and killed all these terminators it made no sense.
I loved it. It was definitely way better than what they did here
@@sterlinga8307 this was worse
Everytime a bad movie ruins the timeline, I just say "eh, this isnt cannon"
*canon
Much less ballistic.
@@TheWatchernator "eh"?
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp hes one of those people
I also love war
This very much applies for Star Wars: “I really wonder what Luke, Leia, and Han are gonna do after they defeated the empire? 🤔”
“I won’t be back”.
Hasta la vista baby.
Jay T I see what you did there! ✌🏻
Your ride is ready get to the choppa.
Say it isn't so, Arnold, we love you.
david charles I was just quoting one of his one liners from this film ✌🏻
Terminator fans: we want to see the war
Terminator creators: we want to see the same shit for a 5th time
Salvation had war
Darth Caedus I know but that was a single time and a bunch of people didn’t really like the movie
Salvation was fucking awful, but Bale is mediocre and McG is a hack.
@@darthcaedus9130 And they completely screwed it up, unfortunately if I want to see the war done right I have to just watch the flashback sequences in the first movie.
@@spaceace4387 or just every flashback in the first 3 movies and the opening of genisys
The best part about this is that there is no terminator timeline.
There’s T1, T2, and then the other ones that take place as variables
I like to picture it as being T1, T2, TSC, ROTM and then Salvation.
Genisys was really about a "What If...?" storyline, and Dark Fate wanted to continue the *actual* story, which completely retconned everything that came before and even after it.
I think you just saved my interest in these films.
N-Gin & TonicTM what’s tsc?
@@N-GinAndTonicTM wtf is tsc?
nvm it's the sarah connor chronicles
"If you dont want to know any spoilers..."
Nah I'm good.
Yeah, right! It was the first time on spoiler review I thought: I don't care about spoilers. I didn't watch this movie because it sucks and the plot won't surprise me anyway. So it really doesn't matter.
If the film isnt good theres nothing to 'spoil'
Spoiler Free Light harted review on my channel ...check it out
@John Gooch it's not that bad ...check out the review I made nd see for urself ...trust me it's a cool movie
I wish reveiwers woukd stop this spoiler announcement crap
Just say it
1984: It can't be reasoned with, it can't be bargained with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear.
2019: I'm a family man now.
I think I see the problem.
Yes 😂 😂
Oh man, this right here.
In T2 they had to take out the CPU and do some stuff because Terminators are "read-only" mode so they can't learn or think too much on their own. But once it kills John Conner suddenly it is self aware and can learn on it's own now ... ? There's a lot of issues with this movie that bugged me a lot. But the action scenes were great.
I think you need to think of it this way,
an ai is artificial intellegence its a life form. it can grow, develop and adapt. If it doesnt, its just a robot programmed to do exactly one thing, and when the terminators are in contact with their neural network or the primary ai they are just fullfilling the primary Ais will,
But its an interesting idea to think, what happens when an ai is set free like he was in this movie. He no longer gets commands and the instructions and goal has been accomplished. A Terminator needs to be able to infiltrate, and blend in with its surroundings, it needs to be human like, so there has to be an element of free will.
if it accomplised its inital goal without ai it would just shut down and stop. An ai needs to be able to think for itself and learn. And Its happened before when arny fought back against the kill command. So if it could do that, obviously its not so far fetched that one could grow over 20 plus years.
Its in t2 isnt it that he choses to not be overiden by the t1000
But thats the thing. The terminator isn't in contact with any network once they're sent back in time. It should've just shut down if it had finished its mission. I'm sorry I just can't bring myself to feel convinced it was set free and just adapts human life. It's way too ridiculous especially as a terminator film
I will not forgive them for what they did to John.
Some how they turned him into a girl , that part lost me , this is beyond stupid
@@sKid-zy1ss exactly
The reason I hated it so much is that they didn't care how it affects Terminator 2 or how it fits into the story as a whole, they just did it purely for shock value
@@benm5970 It felt like something that i cared for all these years all a sudden didn't matter. The future is female so John Connor cant be the savior for mankind.
He is a white male, what were you thinking?
the two people who asked for selfies left before the movie was finished cause it sucked that bad.
lol
I'm going to return some video tapes
Lol they saw John Connor get killed and then just went "Aight. I'ma head out."
Yo
Vidya Bros.
That gives me an idea...I’m going to buy a ticket for another movie...walk into Dark Fate just so I can say out loud in the opening scene, “that’s bullshit! I’m outta here”, then go into the movie I actually paid for
they should focus on making a low budget horror terminator movie like the original...these bloated budget movies arent worth it.
Might I recommend the movie Upgrade? It's not part of the Terminator franchise, of course, but the writer/director has stated that it was an influence. It's a great, smartly written SciFi/action/body horror movie that was made on a low budget but doesn't look it, with good performances, awesome action and a killer ending, and it deserves more love.
TimeandMonotony dude that movie is dope. Loved it when it came out
even just a toned down film about a terminator sent back to kill a LT. or captain under john, or to kill kyle reese before
@@Gouthamedara It's so awesome! Marketing was shit, though; I didn't even hear about it till months after it left theaters. But it seems to be developing a cult following.
@ Tim_GRIFTER_Tool Exactly! Rated R with lots of practical effects, no funny jokes and with the music and deepfake Arnold from DF’s opening.
So they killed John to be finally able to tell a new story.
Just to tell the exact same story but with a female savior, who can't act to save her live.
Slow clap.
but her super-power is positive thinking; so there's that.
@Zach White *JOKE*
John's super power was his hair swoop and I'll by God take that over this chick any day.
@@drwinlied no you're wrong , her superpower is she has a brown pussy 😈😈😈😈😈
Blame the Director.
I was born in 87. I used to watch T2 on VHS. The first time seeing it. I didn't realize why as a kid. I do now that I am older. I cried my ass off when Arni was lowered into the Lava and John was balling his eyes out.... The memories.
How are you doing now , sir? Respect. You might have seen so much in your life, advance of technology. Salute. hope you read this comment. I don't want to be negative. God bless you. Rear to read a comment like this . Couldn't stop myself replying
@@Ichigokurosaki-jy5nx respect
Wasn’t it James Cameron who said about Alien 3: "The decision to eliminate Newt and Hicks was dumb. I thought it was a huge slap in the face to the fans." This is how I feel....
Colonel Falcon I didn’t know anything about the alien movies so naturally I binged them recently! I couldn’t believe it...I was amazed with Aliens and alien 3 just broke my heart, made me lose a little interest, somehow I made it to 4. Not even gonna touch on Prometheus or Convenant SMH
Dan Doe i really disliked 3. I could not believe my eyes. Everything for nothing...
Terminator dark fate is the same movie as alien 3.... and I'd like to imagine that neither happened and I dont understand how Cameron gave this movie a green light.
Difference tho we actually see John die and it is explored upon with Arnold's character
@@christophermarabella5683 not really. Hes dead pretty well from the start just so they can have the t800 from t2 back. A cheap swap for side character development seeing as sarah or Arnie arnt even main characters in all seriousness. Not to mention Arnie dies and they dont prevent new judgement day.... and it still ruins the whole point of t2 for the sake of this rerun plot.
In like 7 years there's going to be another Terminator movie that is: "the true sequal to Terminator 1"
remake T2? What for?
If anything they will remake the first one.
Axel Bergström was thinking the same thing except I thought it would be a direct sequel to T2 and wipe out the rest of the timeline. And more than likely it’ll be disappointing
you mean "the true sequel of T2" right ?
like, why would they, in their right mind, remaking a masterpiece
And it will feature a transwoman giving birth to the T-1,000,000, a nano-technorganic multiphasic gaseous Terminator that targets Trump voters.
It's created by the super-AI, the REEEEEEEEEE.exe program.
@@Alondro77 I'd actually like that
Is it me or does Chris sound like an depressed history teacher giving an uninterested lecture
I mean, how would you expect him to sound after watching this film?
Chris sounds extremely invested in this review, and made articulate points.
Nope. He loved a lot about it, apparently. He's spoofing.
Chris's voice is definitely monotonous.
I was watching another reviewer & his fake energy & shitty attempt at comedy made me look for something else less than 2 minutes in. This tone here works for me. Lets you focus on the actual review instead of the reviewer.
8:40 In Terminator 2, while kid John is talking to the terminator, John asks him if he can learn so he can become more human, and Arnold says that he does learn, the more he is around humans the more his is like them.
Yeah that chip flipping switch scene wasn't in the theatrical release. It's in one of the extended cuts.
He meant more human as in learning to act more human. In terms of actually being a human with actual emotions, it can’t happen. He said himself that he can never cry like John did, even after learning why he cried.
Finally. Someone who respects Terminator: Salvation. Now, I do love it, but that's because I love post-apocalyptic movies and it pulls it off well.
I don't get the hate for Salvation. It was ok, they risked a lot with a new story and give closure to the future timeline and they didn't bring back Arnold (except for the cgi fight).
@@nicolasrodriguez8679 they should be kept out the cgi Arnold
People naturally like to compare movies in the same franchise. Many think that all the sequels are shit besides Terminator Judgment Day, but I quite enjoy Terminator 3 and actually like Terminator Salvation too. Obviously, no sequels will EVER live up to the expectation of Terminator 2 and be able to replicate the dread displayed in T1. But at the very LEAST, Salvation introduced a new perspective into the franchise that hasn't really been explored. On the other hand, Genisys is just bad....that I can agree with the general audience. Dark Fate I would say is better than Genisys even though the script/story is just as bad if not worse than Genisys........If you REALLY think about it, the plot of Dark Fate is basically a rehash of Salvation AND Genisys to an extent.....
Legion = new skynet
Dani = new John connor
Grace= new Kyle reese since she volunteered to save her like Kyle volunteered to save Sarah
Rev 9= new TX
The future war in dark fate is during the day just like salvation!
TDF= new t3, t3 kills Sarah and keeps John alive, dark fate kills John and keeps Sarah alive. That is a lot of rehashed ideas here!
@@nicolasrodriguez8679 Bale was unlikable and uncharismatic leader, Sam Whathisnameton had charisma of a cinder block, plot didn't make any sense
One rule: Never kill John Connor.
Agreed. That's like killing Luke Skywalker in the first 5 minutes of any film... ☕
@@chriscorley6478 first five minutes is not ok.
But last five minutes? Disney approved.
Exactly holy shit 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Feminist agenda to replace him with a female heroine.
Man how many movies were about John? I feel this film was solid, you know what you’re getting into
Should've been about discovering the guy who made Time Travel possible
How It Should Have Ended did that by combing the Terminator and Back to the Future movies.
Machine AI developed time travel, not humans.
Doc Brown?
Ultimo ridiculous! It was clearly the Time Lords!
Kane Aquino That would’ve been interesting
The alternative ending for T2 is the canon ending for me
Affirmative.
James Cameron didnt even spend a day on set on the film. Such a Hypocrite considering his comments on Alien 3 then goes and does the same.
David Finch who directed Alien 3 was even ashamed of that movie.
@@spndusk2362 he doesnt even view it as his movie
ElzCore
What baffles me is that Cameron criticized Alien 3 again this year yet lets the same thing happen in a movie he produced...what the fuck?
I fuckin' knew it. Bastard was too busy obsessing over his Avatar franchise and crossing his fingers for a strong superhero fatigue.
What happened, Cameron?! You had no fuckin' excuse for letting this movie turn out so horribly!
You know what? Screw it! I'm sticking to Halloween 2018 and Force Awakens. At least those films were made by filmmakers that actually gave a shit about the fans.
Sure, neither of them are five-star masterpieces but it's better to have imperfect products that at least had their hearts in the right place as opposed to a broken mess that unnecessarily spits in the faces of not just the original masterpieces but their fans as well in a distasteful manner.
@JESUS Paredes you can look that up yourself. Will probably be on MR H's channel, he was on set of Alita Battle Angel for a day but not Terminator.
Sorry about leaving my mom texted me we were having pot roast and I couldn’t wait for it
Lol
Lol, I was scrolling through the comments during the beginning of the review, and this did not make any sense. Now I understand.
Hana Lol I was scrolling through after the video to see if the person he was talking about left a comment explaining what happened.
You didn't invite Chris for pot roast?
Chris was roasted by pot roast.
I’ll likely give this a miss. T2 is when the story finished.
I'd say T3 ended it, because the film franchise kind of went like this:
1st movie - Future robots try to change the past.... can't
2nd movie - Current-day humans try to change the future .... can't
3rd movie - both sides try again, both sides fail, and at one point it's explicitly stated, neither side can escape their destiny, then judgement day happens.
Artistically, and by feel, it ended with T2. But it was ambiguous at the end of T2: did the humans succeed in not only resisting future robots, but in preventing that future from occurring? We never knew, and I was OK with that, but T3 ended all debates: John will be survive, John will lead the rebellion, Skynet will rise, judgement day will happen, and then Skynet will be defeated.
At least "Terminator Salvation" did address far-future concerns, though I thought it was a superfluous movie, and merely existed in the "Terminator universe" as opposed to being part of the story. "Genysis" had this retarded part between the opening and closing credits, but was otherwise mediocre.
Imperial Guard I’ll just say T3 ended it.
Agreed it ends at T2
@@TROOPERfarcry Chronologically, the story ends with T2. Salvation works as a prequel.
Imperial Guard keep thinking that way and you will stay happy with the terminator movies.
I've only heard people say this movie is bad but I didn't think it would be "kill and replace John Connor" bad...jesus😑😶
Fans: What is your mission?
Dark Fate: To... ensure the survival... of the Terminator... franchise.
Fans: You are about to fail that mission.
Yeah, I guess Dark Fate couldn't care less. Because the feminazi terminators are in complete control now, and they only care about the agenda
😂😂😂
Good rise of the machines reference dude.
@@alejandrovillalba3143 To be honest, we had a lot of badass women in the Terminator movie's from Sarah Conner to the T-X, but I agree with you when you say this is overkill
Gotta love the T3 Reference.
This movie elevates Salvation as the closest to the film we always wanted we will ever get.
It was the best after the first two IMO. If it was just a stand alone future war movie it would be awesome, but it tried to be more complex that it needed to be and the special effects were for sure worse than the first two.
No. It's shit. Only T1 and T2 exist.
I liked salvation but the story could have been better. It was a good effort but not good enough if that makes sense.
@@kylestephens9593 it's obvious
@@johnwinchesterp2963 i thought salvation was good, but it could have been great if they didn't pussy out from the original ending
*sees thumbnail*
“This is gonna be a good one”
Sameee hahahahajaj
He didn’t try to hide his disappointment.
When Carl said "After this I won't be back" I think it was actually Arnold saying to the fans that he either won't be around for long to be in another terminator movie or that he knows that the series is getting bad and he doesn't want to be apart of it anymore
Arnie doesnt need the money so he should have had the integrity to say NO after T2......they were both MASTERPIECES and it should have ended there for HIM!
I believe he said he didn't want to do any more after this one. He's probably just tired of it honestly.
You are reading too much into this, it was just a cheesy line for nostalgia purposes that was cringy
I think it was just in the script and that's it. I think they didn't contemplate his character for the sequels that will never be made because they couldn't find a way because killing his character it was more "emotional" for this movie.
MacKenzie Davis should've been Captain Marvel.
I would support that.
Exactly!!
hell she had more ass than brie larson
Brie Larson's acting made me cringe.
I do not know if she would have been ideal or not but her BF or partner(S) would be really happy with her.
After two failled attempts to kill John Connor, they achived to kill the frachise..
Lol it's been dead for years..
@@Agnes135 i liked the forth. With Christian Bale. I liked the concept.
That scene did disappoint me exponentially. I have no idea why they even hyped the return of Edward Furlong in the first place in order for that to occur. But it didn't deter me from enjoying the entertainment value of "Dark Fate", in fact, quite the opposite took place for me. The new timeline with 2042 was interesting and fresh that it made me want to see the 2042 war with Legion.
Nah,it was in a Coma,They just pulled the plug.
~Fellow Grammar Nazi here~
*achieved
Imagine being called out for missing a selfie with Chris at a movie screening
your mom would know
He wasn't calling them out, he just wanted to let them know he was still around after the movie, he didn't run away.
LordMaledict its about time you take a hike.
Do you feel less important now? Do you need a call out now too?
Lol
Mackenzie Davis was wasted on this movie. Girl has so much talent and potential for action roles, and this movie just pissed all of that right down the tube with such a mediocre script. I really hope she's able to get involved in other projects later on that aren't repackaged garbage.
She was the only good thing about this movie. And the only heir worthy of Kyle Reese legacy from the T1.
I completely agree. She was awesome in this movie only great thing about this movie. I thought Linda was awful and Arnold part being a family guy stupid as hell. Action scenes were over the top b.s and the girl who played John Connor horrible actress.
the chick that was a male or discount male on this movie? nah.
Agree!
True, she was my favourite part of the movie. She's really good at becoming an action star but I wish she have chosen better scripts. I'm interested in seeing her like in the MCU, DCEU, John Wick, Bourne or even other action movie franchise cuz she's pretty good at kicking ass. She deserved so much better and I do think this movie was semi watchable just because of her
Arnold when being asked if he was in Salvation, "No, thank God. It sucked."
Alright mate, because Genesis and Dark Fate were so great.
And Salvation was nowhere near as bad as Gynosis and Dark Flop.
Genesis was actually good
Spelling mistake , it's genisys...we spell it differently, therefore it's new and improved...fuck John Connor...that uh...white guilt punk haha
Salvation is better than all this shit plus we had Christian fucking bale as john Conner that's awesome
@Mad Max Rockatansky at least salvation tried something new
I was hoping that Arnold’s character wasn’t actually a terminator, but the person they based the model on. That would better explain the age and life.
Huntor Prey except the terminators skin actually grows old. If they fail their mission, they integrate into society i think
Marco Silva
Uhmmm, if they fail their mission, they get terminated. Terminators are not sentient nor do they have a reason to peacefully integrate themselves with human beings
They have living skin...it’s not that much of a wonder.
@@Michael019x I figure they would just destroy themselves somewhere no one would find them, like jumping off a ship in the middle of the ocean.
Ethan Berry i didn’t say they were sentient. But they could still continue on within society and further accelerate skynet’s creation, no?
Either way, in this case, arnold’s character seems to have integrated into society after his mission was complete.
They don’t simply “shutdown”.
This time, NOBODY will be back.
so true my friend... so true
Yeh ! " Hasta La Vista " Terminator .
“Terminator franchise is a pile of crap since terminator 2”
Haven’t heard anything more true in my life
Salvation and T3 Are decent Enough
Salvation was a combination of Mad Max and Terminator...
Which was AMAZING for me, the movies onwards was promoting feminism
You dont like "WOKE FATE" ????
They replaced an important white man with a LATINA !!! It CANT be bad.
Wow.
Your life sounds anticlimactic then.
@@NeoConnor1 you nailed it 🥴
The darkest fate of Terminator is another Terminator movie.
Or Terminator vs. Freddy vs. Jason vs Michael Meyers vs. Leprechaun vs. Critters!🤣
@@lawrencerinehart5747 I actually would probably watch that, unlike this movie lmao.
@@lawrencerinehart5747 Take my money!
@@jubjub09222 exactly, that sounds fun at least
Before the movie: Why do you cry?
After the movie: I know now why you cry.
Pointl Ess underrated comment
Lol
Terminator Salvation is still one of my favorites for the simple fact that it's a fresh take on the franchise with new characters in a fixed non-time-traveling timeline. The fact that the movie takes place post-apocalypse is what got me excited for the movie. Skynet was much more self aware and also it was the first Terminator movie to introduce a human-terminator hybrid. That blew my mind when I first saw that in theaters and I'll never forget it.
People give salvation a lot of hate. It deserves some because there were issues with the movie like dialog, pacing, character develpoment etc. But people don't take into account some external factors that was holding the movie down:
* First terminator movie to not feature Arnold(he was still the governor), the brand has been associated with Arnold so much, it couldn't afford to lose his presence without a proper send-off.
* Fans complained that it didn't have those plasma rifle weapons we saw in T1, T2 flashbacks(maybe the sequels might have featured it)
* It didn't have an R rating, was the first PG13 terminator. Salvation really suffered from the lack of gory kills and injuries, considering it was supposed to be a war movie.
* Also the director of that movie didn't have a good reputation among the critics and that leaked on-set shouting of Bale.
If these problems weren't there, I'm sure it would've made more money and we could've got the salvation sequels. Salvation was supposed to give us 2 more sequels ending with the defeat of skynet.
They should've hired Tim Miller to direct a sequel to salvation, not a reboot.
(copied comment)
Salvation is one of my favorite movies of a post apocalyptic world.
Alice In Chains playing on the car radio when they jump started the Jeep and they take a moment to appreciate the “old world”.
RIP Anton Yelchin (Kyle Reese)
Salvation is a good B movie. Some good action scenes. Good visuals. I have it on blue ray and watch it once a year.
Salvation was great
I thought it was interesting that they showed skynet try something different with a humanoid Terminator instead of sending something back in time. Even skynet didn't want to recycle its own storyline.
The de-aging at the start was flawless.
the fact that Edward Furlong was in the movie was literally the only incentive to go see the movie. I was excited to see him..…….and then....f**k.
Same here. I was so pumped seeing Sarah and John together again
He wasn't. It's a new actor with cgi over his face. Look it up.
You are a complete Dumbass ( dont take this seriously ) if u thought John Conner was gonna play a big role in the movie even after the trailers dropped and leaks were considered true...
Miamore Cadenza I actually didn’t want him in the movie again cause I’m sick of the character so I’m glad they got him out.
@@Megaproductions302 then you are sick of the franchise. John and sarah connor, skynet ,kyle reese. they are the core of the story being told here. IF you are sick of them, you are sick of the story. By scrapping all the original characters, all they've done is attempt to tell a brand new story but slap the word "terminator" on it, for the buckazaoids. But they failed at the "new" story, because this shit is just a beat for beat repeat of the old story, except fake looking. This last decade has been cash grab franchise brand rape reboots. Studios churning out garbage because garbage also makes money so why bother trying...
That face says it all lol. What they did to John is as insulting as what Alien 3 did to Newt and Hicks, but more insulting.
Edit; Chris name dropped Alien 3 as well lol. I posted comment before watching the video 😂
James Cameron was pissed that newt and hicks died at the start of alien 3. And now he does the exact same thing with John Connor wtf
@@ARBLACKx you're right, he was! Oh, Jim.
@@ARBLACKx Cameron just didnt care About the movie, he just cares about avatar now
At least when they did Newt and Hicks dirty it wasn't for the sake of feminism and identity politics. White people really need to stop spreading white guilt, grow a spine, and realize that a lot of us minorities don't like this "woke" bullshit either.
I don't understand why they just didn't retcon alien 3 by having a new movie ignore the events. If that one. Focus on the drama between Ripley and her daughter not being close and how newt is almost more like daughter then she is. And have the xenomorphs come to earth and we can see what it looks like in the future.
Terminator 3 : "I screwed up big time"
Terminator Salvation : "Nah, I've done worse"
Terminator Genisys : "Ha! Ha! Remember me?"
Terminator Dark Fate : "Hold my dead John Connor"
Jack Frost underrated comment
They really f***** up here!
Salvation was good.
@@johnj3027 Yea, I actually thought that Salvation was okay. It felt gritty, at least.
Jack Frost lol 3rd n salvation were aight
T3 was masterpiece next to this mess. I think they just need to go deeper in lore and let Sarah and John Connor stories rest for while. Salvation is best Terminator movie after 1 and 2 for me. Christian Bale made good job as John Connor. Not best plot, but something different.
Sorry to disagree, but T3 is awful also. It's basically a shot per shot recreation of T2, which shows how poorly made that movie was. The only two things that are true to the Terminator franchise are these: the first two movies are timeless classics, the rest just keeping getting worse and worse within each installment.
@@nicolasflamelflamel I dont say its good, I said that it looks good after dark fate 😂
@@nicolasflamelflamel but yeah T1 and T2 are amazing.
Actually love salvation ...had fun watching it and it had a great sense of atmosphere
"Legion"
....original.
I know only of legion from gamera 2 advent of legion. Nothing else
@@andreiiiksavvv6054 Congratulations
@@andreiiiksavvv6054 also C&C kanes wrath had a "legion" after cabal.
@@Largentina. thanks lol
@@OrenTubing haven't played a C&C game in years
Thank you for defending Terminator: Salvation, it wasn't great, but at least it had the balls to be set in the future and change up the plot (a bit)
Those two fangirls who wanted their selfie really wanted to get Stuckmanised.
I mean who wouldn't want to get Stuckmanized?
@@caiolucas8257
Just make sure you have a couple of moist towleletts to clean yourself up afterwards.
*"NUFF SAID"*
You just had to make it weird...
"How were we?"
"I'm going to give it a... B+"
_Fuckmanised_
Only terminator movie i love is salvation because finally there were scene of actual war between human and machine
You like war movies.
It wasn't even a war movie, not even close. The Kyle Reese flashback scenes from T1 and the opening sequence from T2, THAT was the war between Skynet vs the resistance.
You must be a child. Those aren’t legitimate reasons why T4 is good. Those sound like “I like pretty colors and things that go boom boom yayyyyy!”
That movie was badass and I think a movie where skynet and legion have a world war would be cool.... especially cuz they can still bring back John cuz time travel
@Harry Potter Still it was a necessary continueing of the franchise. Otherwise you just do the same T2 movie over and over again. Now we have feminist version of T2. With CGI. I watched 20 minutes so far and saw already 5 times how a woman is telling a man what to do. Its about woman, woman, woman, woman, woman and crappy CGI and then theres superhigh CGI-jumps nobody could ever survive and everything ist faster, harder, more CGI. Characters = zero. Buty hey, at least there are woman, woman, woman, woman and a cheap telenovela-mexiacan-story. Dark fate is not only the worst Terminator movie, its an extreme example of a bad movie overall. Total waste of your life time!
I can tell about a movie just by Chris’s face on the link
It's nothing new. That's his shtick
J Rod
What does shtick mean?
Oh I know I just found it amusing.
I was thinking exactly the same!!! I was like, oh, no, he didn't like it! T_T.
Jeremy Jahns does the same thing.
Chris Stuckmann be like:
._.
OwO
My face after watching this movie
I had the same face after 10 minutes into this movie.
IGN : its a great movie
Everyone else: nope
It's not just Ign. Its getting mostly positive reviews. It has over 60% on RT
@Akilleus If critics are irrelevant, this movie must be amazing since it has an 86% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes! Was very surprised to see that given all the negativity.
Yet its imdb score is 6.5. By contrast, The Last Jedi's situation is completely reversed - good imdb score, awful RT audience score.
T3 still has a higher score on rotten tomatoes
Rotten tomaters sucks dick. They have hereditary a 89% and fucking teen titans go to the movies a 90%
@@elsaanna4711 then you don't know how rotten tomatoes work. When someone criticises that website they just don't know how it works.
The shot with Linda Hamilton's legs as she steps out the truck was CGI.
How
@@justintoledo1271 The legs where too long.
Probably cause she's like 100 and needs a cane
Calling it Terminator: Dark Fate would be like calling it Indiana Jones: An Adventure
goes to show these guys had no clue and it's cluelessness through the board. from the writer to the marketing guy. all had no flucking clue. fascinating.
I'm glad someone else notice this. They're just stating the obvious.
Cheese: It's yellow.
Avengers: Assemble
Jurassic Park: Dinosaurs
James Bond: Spy
Aliens: Xenomorph
Hunger Games: Battle Royale
@@inky5574 Hotel? Trivago
@@inky5574 Harry Potter: Wizard
Rambo: Soldier
Rocky: Boxer
Who would have thought Mcauley Culkin would travel back in time to protect Dora the explorer from the evil Pee-Wee'nator-1000? 🤷♂️
Hey, don't disrespect Gabriel Luna
@@danield.8233 I thought he nailed the terminator aspect character
@@danield.8233 who? T-Juan Thousand?
...I thought that was Justin Bieber.
Wow LOL
THUMBNAIL: MY DISAPPOINTMENT IS IMMEASURABLE AND MY DAY IS RUINED.
NOT STUCKMANNIZED.
i bet your mom is stuckmannized. 😏
The main issue I have with this film is the termination of John Connor. John Connor is one of the most important characters in the history of film and it was a really bad idea just to kill him off. Imagine if George Lucas killed off Luke Skywalker in The Empire Strikes Back. The Return of the Jedi would be a useless film. You can't kill off important characters in a film if you want to keep the franchise going. When I saw that opening scene where John gets killed I thought to myself: They just killed the legendary character John Connor and ousted him from the franchise like he didn't exist. However, I did love the action scenes, the character Grace, Mackenzie did a great job, and that's about it. One character and actions scenes doesn't make a movie great. It seems like they tried to make this film be on the level of Terminator 2 Judgement Day. and failed drastically. As you saw in the film they had references to T2. The playground scene at the end, the T-800 sacrificing himself at the end while Dani and Sarah stand above, and several other scenes.
Yeah but if John Connor survives, you have a white male saving humanity and nowadays, it needs to be a STRoNG iNDePeNDeNT FeMaLe or someone will try and cancel the movie.
hah JC died when Edward Furlong went off the deep end... plus Cameron was done with Terminator anyway after 2. I was completely OK with a Terminator wasting JC because two of the movies had already disrespectfully retconned Cameron's canon (this means things were changed in the T3/T5 timelines before their time travel events happened), and really it was about the only big twist left to be done in the franchise anyway. I took it as a "holy shit!" twist, and it worked. It peeled my eyes open for a while. Does every Terminator timeline need John Connor to save humanity? T4 proved: nope! He was mostly shunned anyway by his own people outside of the "prophecies" he made. Anybody could have stepped into the role beyond what he knew from T2+T3, and that knowledge was only going to go so far.
after seeing what they did to Luke in the sequel movies it's not surprising
Fun fact: James Cameron said that he didn’t liked what Alien 3 did to Newt.
I agree with him, but why is he okay with killing John in the first scene? That doesn’t make any sense
Coz of the PC police. All female cast BS
James don't care anymore unless it has to do with avatar
Apparently he might not have. There was a lot of "creative friction" in the making of this film.
@@Eclipto14 Agree. It more than likely has nothing to do with being PC/female character stuff that many are claiming.
THIS WHOLE MOVIE DIDN;T MAKE ONE DAMN BIT OF SENSE!
The thumbs up at the end of T2 wasn't a gesture meaning "it'll all be ok." He was telling John "you'll be right behind me."
Terminator and X men have the craziest timeline of movie franchises
Except, maybe, Halloween.
Halloween and Alien (Predator crossover movies, ending of Covenant, Isolation video game) also say hi.
Cough Saw cough cough.
Stan Lee idea of killing robots and time travel but terminator stole his idea from xmen vs sentinels
Avada Kedavra!
T1 was a love story stuck in a temporal loop. I miss that. I’m so sick of these stupid explosions made for 16 year olds.
Even the 16 year olds are tried of it
@MATT CYPRESS you get it
@MATT CYPRESS christ that has to be some sort of record
@MATT CYPRESS if you are a gamer I would seriously recommend you play Terminator Resistance.
It really gives you a sense why Reese was the way he was.
And the ending is beyond words.
I think that game is what Terminator 2 should have been.
Chris face in thumbnail
me: *ah shit here we go again*
Even though he cannot kick ass, Chris has not run out of bubblegum.
Literally every thumbnail could be captioned either: "Duuuuuuuuhhhhhh!"; "Deeeeeeaaaaahhhh!"; "Orrrrrrrrhhhhhhhh!"; or "Heeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhh!"
It's so strange clicking on the video and hearing a cogent, knowledgeable review. I always expect just a dude making random noises while intermittently clapping his hands only using the palms.
Bless him.
Salvation was good in my opinion. They shouldve just continued with that timeline. Its gone to real shit with the last two.
Daddi T. Hjaltason I liked it a lot. It was different. I did not see coming of the guy being a robot instead of a human.
@Masster Gunnz Also the only good scenes from Genesys were the future ones.
Salvation was way better the this trash they got now cringy af
Atleast Salvation has lot of originalities. The bike scene, the big bad robot. Not just lazy liquid stuff all over the place.
The original ending was John Connor dying and the robot becoming John connor
“An Arnold terminator does not a terminator movie make”
- Stis Chruckmann, 2019
My biggest problem with the evil Terminator after the second movie is that every one of them seems less menacing than t-1000. T-1000 with his abilities was so ultimate, that no one can top that and each seems to be a step backward in their evolution.
Also, Rev-9 was Venom - I mean, black goo, separatable like a symbiont, tendrils... right? :)
Remember when terminator’s were actual threats and not canon fodder like the robots from avengers age of ultron?
That was when we were impressionable kids.
who would win in a battle?
the T-800 or feminism?
@@jundean5292 I mean, carl could open the door when grace couldnt.
@@productivestruggle9489 lol
@@jundean5292 feminism
Yeah I'm not interested in watching Terminator: The Quickening where we found out John Connor came from the Planet Zeist
Zeist is a village not far from me
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
Give me more!
Raymond Watt HAHAHA😂😂😂 brilliant! Anybody else who gets the Highlander 2 reference?
@@trollface865 There should have been only one
They literally had john killed because they wanted a generic teenage girl to take his role.
cough last jedi cough
Welcome to 2019. Don't worry, eventually Hollywood will miss making money.
I mean, it actually made sense to do such. I guess they didn't realize that more terminators would keep coming back to stop John; it wouldn't be a one-off attempt. So yes, realistically he would probably die.
And they casted the enhanced girl who looked like Brie Larson Captain SJW, except she was a way better Brie Larson.
@@IamNinjaOfNinja I bet originally she wasnt even "enhanced", she was just a Mary Sue, but then they realized their would be backlash, so they threw in that line...
Here's a valid question. Why didn't he kill both John and Sarah. He had them at gun point and both were unarmed. Why didn't he kill them and then walk off to the next military base, to let them disassemble and study him? You know, give them a head start into developing Legion/Skynet.
Probably because ihe didn't have any orders to do so. Sarah was only an actual target before she gave birth, in T2 she only was of interest as a means to get to John. Since he already had terminated John, Sarah was completely irrelevant to him, and if he had no specific instructions to ensure Skynets creation if necessary after potential fallout of the time meddeling, he probably had no drive to do that either.
"Desire is irrelevant... I am a Machine!!!!"
How about drapes? Do you like drapes?
"YES!!!!!"
😂
Lol, line from t3
I still dont understand how he (Carl mr. drapery T-800) knows where other Terminators from Legion are entering the timeline. Hes a Skynet product. How does he know about Legion?!? Lol. I will text Sarah Connor about these other Terminators. Forgive me. For John. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Best line from t3. 😏
@@danlayson9623 He explains that he can essentially "sense" it due to a disturbance that occurs a little while prior to each portal opening up. At that point, wouldn't really matter what organization created which terminator, since they all seem to use the same method of time traveling. So as soon as he notices when one's going to happen, he gives her the coordinates, since it's 99% likely that whoever's fucking with time travel is probably a terminator.
I said this on Twitter, I wish these Hollywood juggernauts would half their VFX budget if it meant they could hire competent writers.
@@TealeafRogers Agreed. But there's no point in spending a bomb on VFX if the story is shit
You know what they need to go old fashion with actual explosions and props... All that CG looks so fake. I feel like they people they hire to write this million dollar movies are high schoolers with not talent yet. They are so bad.
Haven't seen and I don't care about spoilers for this movie.
I can see why not everyone liked it but seeing Linda Hamilton and Arnold back together was so much fun and Mackenzie Davis was a great new addition. The new bad guy wasn't as good as the one in T2 but still very enjoyable
Chris has that, "I'm not mad, just disappointed.", look on lock.
Hi Chris, the alien in the background of your videos looks like he is giving a TED talk, please change its posture. great review
Lol, I can't unsee that now.
Hey, that's a TED talk I'd watch!
Hello, my baby, indeed
Are you implying that aliens can't give quality TEDTalks?!?!?! 😂🤣
"You know, people call me an alien. But to me, it's the humans who are the aliens. We are all aliens to someone else, and yet, we are all connected."
Terminator 2 was a perfect closure, there shouldn't have been a Terminator 3 to begin with.
I don't have a problem with T-3 because the end pretty much sends John Connor in a base to prepare him for his future mission and the Armageddon happens so it doesn't contradict anything. It says the whole thing was innevitable. And Salvation you see the future and John Connor kicking robot ass. It's after that where they tried forcing the issue with non-sense(like in Genysis somehow John Connor becomes the villain lol)
T3 was good
@@TobeyStarburst no man
You're right but under this are the usual comments attempting to justify the sequels. Oh dear.
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 There was no need for T3, All the characters had a perfect arch and closure, the story was also perfected, the crisis was averted.
T3 just another Terminator and it was ridiculous, the female one was over the top in all aspects. When you consider her abilities it would have been game over in the first scene they met.
The whole film was just setting up excuses for action scenes and then having the action scenes. John Connor was ridiculous and then the silly end.
A true T3 film could only have been about the life after the tragic events, sooner kind of drama film about Sarah having to pick her life up again and dealing with the aftermath, same with John. Why? Because in T2, Skynet was averted, the whole future timeline was averted.
Hence the director was unwilling to just use the Terminator storyline and just change a few things for the money grab since its popularity assured profits.
T2 was the end. The rest is just greed inspired rubbish.
Still have to watch Dark Fate, but it most likely won't change my opinion.
God, that shoutout to ur fans at the screening....so sweet, man. Warms my heart!
This movie isn't canon. That is my final stance on it.
Canon ended after the end credits of T2
The Terminator franchise doesn't deserve a fucking canon. All they do since T2 is shit the bed, realize they fucked up and make a sequel that ignores everything after T2 all over again. The only really good Terminator content since T2 was the Sarah Connor Chronicles and they fucking cancelled that. Fuck this franchise.
*Sad music plays in the background*
Chris's face : *WHY ARE WE STILL HERE?! JUST TO SUFFER!*
Marcellus Thomas All the sequels we endured... won't stop hurting.
THEY PLAYED US LIKE A DAMM FIDDLE!!
Stuckmannizer: “I’ll be back.... for that selfie” 🤖
"Come with me... if you want to selfie."
"C'mon do it! I'm right here! SELFIE!"
“That is one ugly mother fucking selfie”
I can be bargained with and reasoned with and feel mo pic-y (selfie). Lol
I remembered everyone’s name except for Dani, lmao I just heard it from this video that her name way Dani, this tells you a lot
As usual, they filmed the scenes they thought would be badass first, then cobbled together a script to fit the scenes.
Write a good STORY first. Then have that the reason to make the film.
The story was written first. Well it was written and rewritten time and time again by 4 seperate writers, one obviously being Cameron.
@@artdogg50 Cameron didn't do shit. He was there just to sell the movie and collect the payment.
It feels that way.
@@sincord1 I actually believe that, but I think they put his name in there to try to sell more tickets. I don't believe he had any power or any real say.
Arnold then: I’ll be back
Arnold now: Ow my back
Profile pic checks out.
Dum Dum Movie Reviews I won’t be back
Ohkay its spider man 2 lines😅😅
@@Vahig7 the *quality* won't be back.
@@kapoorvarun909 it ain't cr I nG bro
To summarize the entire propose of this film in two points:
1. Kill the male savior figure; make them female instead.
2. Kill the male protector figure; make them female instead.
Girl power.
Get woke go broke
@Snehil Shrey the only recent male led agenda driven ones I can think of are Rambo "lets kill Mexicans" Last Blood and the Modern Warfare remake which doesn't contain any good male Arabs despite Black Ops 2 making progress on that.
@Snehil Shrey Thanks to the original movie from 1984...that someone needs reminding of. Because getting woke matters when you actually earn it and by not feeding agenda on promos prior to release. This one deserves to flop hard.
I clicked Show replies to see people saying the word "agenda" 340 times but not really making complete thoughts.
@@arubinojr5670 I think Chris Stuckmann can explain it better. One of his recent reviews mentioned he pitched some scripts and they weren't approved because they didn't "talk about modern social issues" or something to that effect. I am saying this a hardcore anyone but Trump democrat.
That is the "agenda" people are talking about, throwing away male leads, shoehorning in plots about gender or sexuality(while somehow excluding race, particularly Indians/Pakistanis/Arabs or non-Mexican brown people, particularly men).
My other stake in this is that it alienates swing voters into voting for those Nazis if you put this requirement in every modern script before approving it and I REALLY want Dems or an anti-Trump Republican to win in 2020.
I think Terminator Films keep failing is they keep doing a remake of Terminator 2. Salvation is the only thing that had something new to offer but the execution wasn't well done.