I had a beer and rewatched the 2009 Star Trek (a year later before I watched the rest of the trilogy) over on Patreon FREE to check out if you want to watch along: www.patreon.com/posts/patreon-star-98605898 I got a lot more of the references this time after watching Original Series! 😂😂 STAR TREK REBOOT TRILOGY: ruclips.net/p/PLQHhQlj8i5doZs95Xwlr8wmPuyDVNfMIi ORIGINAL SERIES: ruclips.net/p/PLQHhQlj8i5drsrCtQd-FDuZZ99vKlPTyZ NEXT GENERATION: ruclips.net/p/PLQHhQlj8i5dqskzLNqeSNyMGa1rBWe3h1
@@andrewblanchard2398 T'Lyn from "Lower Decks" got pretty dang close at the end of the episode "Lower Decks" ruclips.net/video/mk5-4SA7zAs/видео.htmlsi=C-6Mf90xEwA61rM_&t=48
6:54 Vulcans have the same emotions we do, possibly even stronger. After almost destroying themselves with wars there emerged a philosophy by which they suppress their emotions and use logic to guide their actions.
@@AdhamOhm Add to that, original timeline Spock is referred to as Ambassador Spock because he was the Vulcan ambassador to Romulus following the Federation / Romulan Cold War. ... There's a bunch of original series / next generation history to unpack there.
i was 6 years old when TOS started in 1966. grew up with Star Trek. one thing you'll come to realize about the franchise is Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scotty, Sulu, Chekov, and Uhura are all the main characters of the show, some more than others, but the MAIN star is U.S.S. Enterprise. she was and is Star Trek. you'll see the love for her after watching more. "you treat her like a lady, and she'll always bring you home". greatest line in the entire Star Trek universe.
@@jenmurrayxo The Original Uhura, played by Nichelle Nichols (who passed away just this last year.) Was a huge civil rights Icon. At one point she considered leaving the show, but was strongly encouraged by Civil Rights leader Martin Luther King, Jr to stick with it, because she was one of the very first black women to be portrayed as a major character on TV who wasn't a maid or slave or servant type, but as an equal. She went on to work with NASA on minority recruitment, and was a direct inspiration to Dr. Mae Jameson, the first black female astronaut. Mae Jameson also had a cameo as a crew member in an Episode of Star trek: The Next Generation. The Enterprise was a rarity at the time, with an ethnically diverse crew, because the creator wanted it to be representative of a future where Earth was United and everyone was equal.
14:19 "Shivers, I love a good space ship" -- Clip this moment and share it on all your social media. People will love seeing the moment you met the most important ship (space or otherwise) in the history of fiction. The Enterprise is a character you're about to become very familiar with, and I can't wait to join you on the ride!
Remember that they named the first space shuttle to fly (not in space 😞) " the Enterprise ". It was being carried piggy back on the back of a modified 747. All after this Space Ship Enterprise from the TV series. It's what the Fans wanted.
I love that Jen had a crush on basically everyone on the Enterprise except Sulu and Scotty. Might be the highest number of crushes Jen has had in one movie! :) Very much enjoyed how much she got into the plot and the friendship between Kirk and Spock.
@@OnTalyn Scotty was regularly comical in TOS and the 80s films. Pegg played him to perfection, and as a Scot, I can tell you that he nailed the accent.
I first met these characters in the 70's as a kid. The original series had such an impact on pop culture, the first space shuttle that the US created they named after The Enterprise. I adored this movie in the theatre, saw it twice.
And the Enterprise from Star Trek was named after the real life USS Enterprise, the most highly decorated US warship ever, which served during the Second World War. That name actually has quite the history.
Jen, I love that you felt heartwarmed by the Kirk/ Old Spock dialogue. You should definitely go back and watch the original series so you can see how that bond developed over time, as well as all the other character histories, the Vulcan lore, etc. Welcome to the fandom!!
Yes Jen, Highly recommended that you start with the Original Star Trek series and then the Originals Trek Movies so you can get a better appreciation and maybe even love for the characters and review each episode and movie while your at it :) And later if your inclined too, watch Star Trek the Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager and Enterprise to get the over view of the Real/Prime universe ( 1966-2005 ). These Trek movies are fine, but remember they take place in an ( the moment Nero and Old Spock appeared thru that black hole) alternate universe.
I never watched the old Star Trek movies growing up, this was my first Star Trek I ever watched but when I went to go watch the Old ones for the first time they were awesome so I definitely recommend watching them.
13:30 James Doohan was a Canadian who played a Scotsman in a science fiction TV series. The officer here is played by Paul McGillion was raised in Canada (that's his normal accent) but is best known for, yet again, playing a Scotsman in another science fiction TV series. Fortunately for him, his parents are Scottish and his brother is a doctor, so all he needed to brush up his role as a Scottish doctor was to phone home to family.
YES LOVE THESE MOVIES! The opening scene takes place in 2233, while the rest of the movie takes place in 2258. Star Trek Into Darkness takes place in 2259. Star Trek Beyond takes place in 2263. This is called the Kelvin Timeline, an alternate universe where Kirk and the lives of the Enterprise crew were changed forever. The original timeline takes place in 2266-2269, for the TV series. Star Trek The Motion Picture takes place in 2278-79 Star Trek II The Wrath Of Khan takes place in 2285. Star Trek III The Search For Spock takes place in 2285. Star Trek IV The Voyage Home takes place in 2286. Star Trek V The Final Frontier takes place in 2289. Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country takes place in 2293. Star Trek Generations, the opening scene takes place in 2293, while the rest takes place in 2371. Star Trek First Contact takes place in 2373. Star Trek Insurrection takes place in 2375. Star Trek Nemesis takes place in 2379.
The Motion Picture takes place 2.5 to 3 years after the conclusion of the five year mission, which according to an episode of Voyager, ended in 2270, so ca. 2272 or 73.
Good breakdown except for your dates for Star Trek The Motion Picture, which was no earlier than 2273 and no later than 2275. VOY established the end of the TOS 5-year mission to be 2270.
"I like him too, McCoy." WTF!?! Sorry. It's a really great line, winking at the audience, but Jen, you made it even funnier by just going with it. You'll understand when you watch the OG cast in the older Trek movies, and you meet the (ahem) real McCoy. Sorry, couldn't help it. That's a "I need to take a shower now" level pun.🖖
As a Trekkie and a member of a Trekkie family, please go back and watch Old Trek… especially if you plan on continuing New Trek. It will just make better sense if you do😊
Absolutely! This timeline only really makes sense if you know the Prime timeline first. I can't imagine not recognizing Nimoy and the emotional weight of his scenes. It's a fun action movie either way, but it's more than that if you know what it is playing against (and let it be... I'll never understand the backlash from some of the fandom.) That said, might as well finish these next two films first. Might get confusing otherwise. Finish this timeline, then backtrack.
To quote Spock's re-education computer in 2285(ish) INCORRECT. Ik NUMEROUS Trek fans who got into Trek because of this, it's 2 sequels or the 6 series launched since 2017. This is a renaissance of Trek that started here 14 years ago(this is the more Trek we've had in production since DS9 and VOY were in simultaneous production).
OLD TREK. I recommend starting with the 5-year mission episode "Return to Tomorrow". Probably their best Sci-Fi adventure! (yes, I am trying to get people to call the "original series" "The five year mission series!") :) IMO, None of the movies really stand on their own without seeing at least SOME of the best episodes. from TV. There's just too much to miss in the form of references to the TV show. Then watch "The city on the edge of forever" and "Court Martial (the one that shows how truly awesome Kirk is)" And you will be fully versed in Start Trek. Then you'll be able to appreciate the movies on another level.
Good Evening Eric. Sorry I'm late; just got back from taking my Niece home. We had a Fun night, mostly just watched some movies. The Girl had never seen "Top Gun" before, Original or Sequel, so I had to rectify that!!
Hey Jen, I have always loved the ideas in Star Trek, when you understand that they live in a world in which we have figured out endless energy, solved food hunger and distribution, solved housing inequity and the pursuit of a career is not for money but intellectual enlightenment. ------- Then what is left for us. TO EXPLORE. Such are the grand ideas that were postulated by Gene Roddenberry. You can't help but be spellbound by such optimism.
When this came out, it was still in 35mm film. The scenes with the Enterprise above Titan, Spock, I have snips of 5 frames of the film of those scenes.
PS: Oh yeah! Ahem. Since she was assigned to a starship that got destroyed at Planet Vulcan, Uhura's Orion roommate died, albeit offscreen, so not many people ever think of it. 😮😢
0:31 Mark! Jen! I got a new smartphone, and as a result, I just now subscribed to you again! 😀 Now the problem is to remember what I've already seen here and like it all over again without watching it all over again. 🤔 4.7K Thumbs Up + Mine! 👍
OLD TREK. I'm sure you'll hear this from a lot of people, but definitely go back and watch the original Star Trek movies. They're amazing, and the main reason we still have Star Trek all these years later.
I grew up on Star Trek (original series) and came into this film with trepidation, and I was overall happy with this. I enjoyed the early cast and the honour and respect paid to the original series. Zachary Quinto did a marvellous job as Spock and Pine actually looks like a very young Kirk in my head anyway. And as an Aussie, shout out to Eric Bana as the Romulan bad-ass... mind you, still waiting for the next promised film.....
Jen this is a really great remake of this series! Had to rewatch this so i could watch your ST-2 Into Darkness reaction, which i loved!❤ I'm so happy you are continuing this new remake series! Thanks for sharing! ❤️💛 Live Long and Prosper!🖖
I'm a huge Star Trek fan, so this was a really fun reaction. I know the old show can seem a bit dated by today's standards, but if you ever decide to give it a shot, even just a few episodes, I think you won't be disappointed. It's classic tv.
I think she is better off sticking with the films from TOS). The TV series was just too corny and dated IMO. And this is coming from a massive TNG and DS9 fan.
Episodes should include Journey to Babel. Apart from being a great episode in itself, it stars the original versions of Spock’s parents. Space Seed leads into Wrath of Khan, so that’s a definite. The Enterprise Incident is a nice Romulan episode, see also Balance of Terror. Also need some Klingons in the mix… Trouble With Tribbles or Errand of Mercy. Finally Amok Time for a Vulcan centred episode.
So happy that you love this film! :D The Star Trek fandom is ancient and massive, so naturally there are a lot of opinions about each series and film iterations. A lot of warring passionate opinions in the comments, I'm sure. Personally, I love that you started with the AOS films! While I understand many of the reasons why old trek fans have beef with these films, I don't share them and I love both TOS and AOS for very different reasons. I love that they went the "alternate universe" route with the time travel, because that separates the stories of these characters from the original series in a neat way, and now we can have multiple versions of these characters I love without making unnecessary comparisons! It's a win-win! The AOS films and all the fan content they inspired definitely have a special place in my heart. Also, love that you immediately became so invested in Spock, his dual nature and his and Kirk's friendship, when those are pretty much the driving forces of why the original series has always been so loved :D I whole-heartedly recommend that you keep watching these films!
So great to see you discover Star Trek. 'Old Trek ' 🖖 . I have been and always will be a fan of the original, or TOS to us. The new incarnation leans too much on combat. Not the Trek ideas I grew up to love, but I am thrilled it continues. You may have issues if you try reacting to the series, others have. But hopefully you will try. 🖖💫
I agree whole heartedly. Space combat was never engaged lightly on TOS & TNG and they always tried a peaceful solution first when they could. JJ just wants phasers flying around and Kirk punching people.
🖖First of all, if no one else has mentioned it, “older Spock” was Leonard Nimoy, THE Spock from the original series and films. Before you go further with these movies, I would recommend watching the original series and at least Star Trek 2, 3, and 4. You would have a greater appreciation for the newer movies and the whole Star Trek phenomenon.
Hey Jen, Star Trek and Sci-Fi in general are such a great conduit to postulate on human emotions and interactions in the future. Humans react the same way to unknown environments and circumstances since the dawn of time. With fear and trepidation. Since the future is unknown, the palette for world-building is infinite when it's come to sci-fi. Then place likable characters in that environment with dramatic circumstances and we get a very compelling storyline.
Old Trek!! I'd start with Star Trek 2 because 1 is VERY dry and slow moving. Star Trek: The Next Generation tv show is a *_phenomenal_* series that is a serious must watch as well! The first season was a little rocky at first until everybody was 100% comfortable, but seasons 2 through 7 (the final season) are *_amazing!_*
Hey Jen, welcome to the Star Trek universe. There are those who are lovers of all things Star Trek (a.k.a. "Trekkies") and those who are Star Wars lovers (a.k.a. "Warsies"). I am a great lover of both. I definitely and highly recommend watching the other two Trek films along with some of the original series/movies as well. People on your social media and RUclips handles will give you the appropriate suggestions on which to watch to help move you along accordingly. Some facts about the Enterprise: "The Enterprise was originally going to be named Yorktown, but creator Eugene "Gene" Roddenberry was fascinated by the aircraft carrier Enterprise and had 'always been proud of that ship and wanted to use the name.' The NCC-1701 registry stems from NC being one of the international aircraft registration codes assigned to the United States. The second C was added because Soviet aircraft used Cs, and creator Matt Jefferies believed a venture into space would be a joint operation by the United States and Russia. Jefferies rejected the numbers 3, 6, 8, and 9 as 'too easily confused' on (television) screen; he eventually reasoned the Enterprise was the first vessel of Starfleet's 17th starship design, hence 1701. "The Making of Star Trek" explains that USS means 'United Space Ship' and that "Enterprise is a member of the Starship Class". Licensed texts, on-screen graphics, and dialogue later describe the ship as a Constitution-class vessel." I look forward to the next Trek reaction(s)! 📽❤️🚀
Jen, Great reaction. Fantastic selection. 🖖 Old Trek fan here. Before watching the next one in this series of films (Star Trek Into Darkness), I recommend watching the Episode "Space Seed" from Star Trek: The Original Series and Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan (1982). Without spoiling anything, Space Seed and Khan offer a backstory to Into Darkness. Plus they're very entertaining in their own right. Glad you're doing Star Trek!
This trilogy is the perfect intro for Star Wars fans looking to get into Star Trek, mostly because JJ Abrams(who directed the first two) is a Star Wars fan and directed these movies as such. The creators of this trilogy were also nice enough to set this all in an alternate timeline, a lesson I wish most modern Trek would learn from. I know you're unlikely to see this but I recommend checking out Old Trek and the order that I think is most understandable for newbies(which is always contested by some Trek hardliners) is watching it all in-universe chronological order. Which in my opinion goes like this: -Star Trek: First Contact(movie) -Star Trek: Enterprise(series) -Star Trek: The Original Series(series)(I recommend finding a "best of" or "must watch" episode list for this one) -Star Trek: The Original Series movies(there are 6) -Star Trek: The Next Generation(series) -The first 3 Next Generation movies(you can skip First Contact here since it was the first thing on this list[there's time-travel involved so just trust me if this seems confusing here]) -Star Trek: Deep Space 9(series) -Star Trek: Voyager(series) -Star Trek: Nemesis(movie) I would avoid any modern Trek, they don't really hold to past lore or Canon, and are honestly not up to par with classic Trek. And of course finish this trilogy out before anything, the third is my personal favorite. LLAP 🖖
That's good! Also just watching all the movies without checking out any of the series is totally viable. It's honestly how a lot of people get into Star Trek initially. Just know the classic Star Trek shows are some of the best written television ever! Even TOS from the 60s which is still highly relevant and wonderful, if not a bit campy sometimes. 😆 🖖
You are my hero, Jen, for naming Spock your MVP. To a 13 year old me, Spock became someone I could both empathize with and eventually attempt to emulate/pattern myself after. To say the character and the actor had a huge impact on my life would be an epic understatement. And in hindsight I wouldn't have had it any other way. I recommend you immerse yourself in both the Old and New Star Trek. Live long and Prosper.
@@jenmurrayxo Wait a minute Jen, am I seeing this correctly..? You Hearted your own Reply, instead of his comment?? I didn't even know you could do that. . .
Loved Loved LOVED your reaction to this. Full disclosure, I watched the original series as a teenager in the mid 1960's on first run American TV. And I've watched every Star Trek up through Star Trek Enterprise. So I'm biased. I have two things to say. When it comes to the order to watch these in, don't listen to us. Do what feels right. Because whatever order you watch them in IS the "correct" order. And two, speaking as someone with over half a century worth of watching, seeing you stepping into this universe and reacting to it (no matter where you enter the saga) is a delight. For me, it ranks right up along side my introduction to Star Trek. Thank you for sharing this with me. Thank you for sharing this with us.
Personally I like the older Star Trek series/movies more, so I would love to see you explore at least some of that at some point. Since I've discovered your channel I have greatly enjoyed watching your reactions. The fact that you give old movies a chance, like starting your James Bond journey at the very beginning, is really awesome and it seems you can just enjoy them regardless whether they are a bit dated or not. In my opinion people these days can get too focused on the best graphics possible and lose sight of other factors that can make a movie entertaining. I hope you keep enjoying yourself in watching new franchises/movies!
Thanks! I try to have fun with whatever I'm watching 👍 There's a poll on Patreon now to choose some episodes of the original series before Wrath of Khan 🖖
I love watching your reactions Jen, you are always so entertaining! I grew up in the 60’s watching the original Star Trek series and have watched every series and movie, and have even attended Star Trek conventions… so, I think you’d call me a true Trekkie. Lol I’m very happy that you have started to discover the amazing Star Trek universe that I’ve loved for so long, BUT, I’m disappointed that you’ve started with the reboot. Don’t get me wrong, I like the new movies, but fans weren’t thrilled that everything they’ve known and loved for the past 60 years was wiped out with a new timeline, or the fact that they rehash and change plots and characters from the original shows. You would have enjoyed this movie much more if you’d seen the original series and movies first by watching the friendships, personalities and characters develop over the many years. Seeing Spock and McCoy bickering at every chance has been a delight for me over the years. Anyway, again, I love your reactions, they brighten my day! I vote for OLD TREK, followed by NEW TREK
I couldn't watch the first new reboot after 15 minutes. It's like a cartoon compared to the older films (The Motion Picture, The Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock, etc.) The writing is awful, the characters are juvenile, it's a real disappointment.
Great reaction as always Jen and I'm super impressed that you can do the hand gesture 🖖. The original movies with the original cast are much better story wise in my opinion but that's only because that's my era and I still enjoyed the modern movies even though it was a bit weird with the time line changes. So I would definitely recommend watching the originals. Live long and prosper 🖖🖖🖖
An Old Trek fan since the Original Series and i Loved this and the next 2 films! I have all 3 film scores on vinyl. For the 50th Star Trek Anniversary a traveling Orchestra came to Jones Hall, Houston TX, and performed film and tv scores from the entire Trek Franchise. I have a cool Trek tshirt from the concert with a top view of the Enterprise composed entirely of classical instruments, it rocks! LLAP🖖
The camaraderie of these characters is legendary. The old films, although set in an alternate timeline, have the same feeling about them. I do suggest that you visit these films at your convenience. Some are good, some not as much... But as a whole, they're excellent. So skipping films is like not reading an entire chapter in a good book just because it's a bit less interesting. You've just embarked on another epic journey... Good for you!! :)
@@jenmurrayxo I'd say 'Space Seed' for sure. For the rest, just keep in mind that the original TV series was the Enterprises' FIVE YEAR MISSION in space, to explore strange new worlds and seek out new life forms...
Chris Pine has played a variety of roles in a variety of movies. He and Tom Hardy were C.I.A. officers who were rivals for Reese Witherspoon's affections in "This Means War." He was Prince Charming in "Into The Woods."
I know that you would enjoy the original series. I think that you would have a good time with The Next Generation. I really think that Deep Space 9 would be your favorite ST series. You would also enjoy Voyager and Enterprise. Star Trek is not always a series for everyone. But watching you react to so many movies... You would 10000% be a Trekkie
🖖 OLD TREK. Fantastic Jen! You must continue your Trek. Like others, I strongly recommend watching the first six films next, then returning to "Into Darkness" and "Beyond". The main reason being that "Star Trek: Into Darkness" heavily homages "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan". You don't necessarily need to watch the original TV series as "Star Trek: The Motion Picture(1979)" is an excellent jumping on point. It is a much slower paced film though. The middle four films, or "Next Generation" films; Generations, First Contact, Insurrection, and Nemesis do require at least watching a dozen or so key episodes of that series to fully appreciate. They don't do as good a job giving the full cast proper spotlight and feature only two characters fully. Live long and prosper.
New Trek: Now that you have started on your 'Trek' it would be illogical not to continue on to it's ultimate conclusion. Old Trek: For greater understanding of the lore, it would likewise be illogical for you not to watch the original SIX movies from the old timeline also. As always, your reactions continue to entertain and elicit emotional responses. I find myself eagerly anticipating your next video. 🖖🏻
One thing for sure: do *not* go further into the New Trek (Kelvin Timeline) series without watching some of the original series, and at least Old Trek movies 2, 3, 4, and maybe 6. There are references that you’re missing - it’s like watching Young Frankenstein without watching the original Karloff classic.
I saw this at the cinemas when it came out, then I bought it on dvd cos it was so epic. Made me rewatch the original star trek shows and movies with kirk and spock.
Awesome reaction, Jen! And yes, you definitely need to watch old Trek! If you do, you’re in for a real treat. After watching the first film “Star Trek: The Motion Picture”, I’d recommend watching The Original Series Episode 22, titled “Space Seed” before watching the 2nd film “Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan” to get a good backstory that’ll help you understand the plot of the movie better. The first 6 films are with the cast from the Original Series and the remaining films are with the cast of “Star Trek: The Next Generation”. The JJ Abrams films follow what is referred to as “The Kelvin Timeline” which altered the history and origins of how the characters became part of the Star Trek universe.
Yes to the Tv series too! These movies are based off of the American tv series from the 60’s. They are classic even though they only ran for about 2 or 3 seasons. If you reacted to the actual series you might be the first reactor EVER to do them? There may be copyright issues with them and maybe that’s why but if you could figure them out? William Shatner as Capt Kirk and Leonard Nemoy as Spock are ICONIC in America. Sorry, I watch too many reactions….Pretty sure you’re one of us🤔. No language barrier I can detect. Maybe Canadian?? 😂
Yeah, that would be awesome to see a reactor give the original series a go, even if Jen only does a small selection of fan-favorite episodes (like a top 10, perhaps) to start with if she doesn't want to commit to watching every single episode. Of course, the ideal way would still be to just watch all of the original series first so that she gets to see the great dynamic between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy and grows to love them as characters. But if the time investment for that is too much, I'd love to see her at least react to a couple episodes.
I’m a massive ST fan (my faves being TNG and DS9) but, while I never really cared much for TOS the TV series, the movies II-VI (minus I and V) are all fantastic and well worth the watch.
Two things I remember from the cinema was Karl Urban does a great job in mirroring the persona of the McCoy character from the original show. The second may sound a bit weird but the film was really colourful, maybe it was just my cinema but it sticks out as a memory.
As a child of the 60's, and with my dad having an expansive SF novel library from Jules Verne to E.E. "Doc" Smith, I grew up watching the weekly episodes on CBS and NBC of Star Trek, then later in syndication. That run-on sentence was to emphasize that making this your 1st Star Trek movie was, counter-intuitively, the right way to go. I recommend that you NOW watch the original cast movie trilogy of ST2TWOK, ST3TSFS & ST4TVH. You won't regret it.
Thanks David! Def taking some heat for watching this one first but I'm glad I did. I did make me interested enough to want to see older stuff & I'd like to think I have an open enough mind to be able to enjoy all of it ☺️🖖
Mark 26:59. Random Crew Member: "Sir! The water tastes Scottish!" Officer: "Do you mean it tastes like Scotch?" RCM: "No, Sir! It even smells like a Scotsman!" Officer: "You probably drank used shower water!" RCM: "No, Sir! It was sink tap water!" Officer: "Then our water plant has been compromised! Brown Alert!" 😅
Yeah, this is one of my favorite movies, the music, the action, the comedy, I've watched it 💯 times, and will watch it again a 💯 more times , thanks Jenny Penny 🤓👏🎉👍🥳🤗
After the update today I had to come and rewatch this edit 🖖such a fun reaction if you could feel half the joy your reactions make us feel you would be smiling for days 🔥 your little captions always make me happy my favourite 'Very cool dance moves' is the best 😅 super looking forward to into darkness now especially as you know the characters so well now it's going to be great 👍 not a very insightful comment I'm leaving but if it even makes you smile a little then job done 🖖 hope you enjoy the rest of your day Jen make it so !
As usual, fun reaction. Personally, id have started at the begining, but this works. I felt like this was close to original cast members. So many things will make sense if you go back, especially to the original series, but that would be your time permitting. But please check out more! 🖖
Yeah, that would always be my first recommendation, but I think the 2009 movie works okay as an introduction for a modern viewer, all things considered. Hopefully it sparked an interest to react to the original show at some point. The Kirk/Spock/McCoy dynamic is one of the best things about the old show, and Jen seemed to really enjoy that aspect of the movie.
In fact, Greg Ellis who played Olsen aka the daredevil in red when they did the orbital skydive, he previously played a character in Star Trek Deep Space Nine from 1999. :D
OLD TREK. Keep in mind this movie and the next two after it are set in the Kelvin Timeline, which is a different reality from all the other Star Trek properties (movies, television shows, etc.). So there is a lot of references/homages to actual Star Trek in this that you would appreciate more if you watched them, but there are serious differences as well (as you noted). However, this movie is still a good intro to the franchise for some one completely new to it (unless you started just watching the Original Series television show). I would highly suggest that before you watch ST: Into Darkness, you watch ST: The Motion Picture and then ST: The Wrath of Khan. That will help you contrast both this movie and Edge of Darkness better.
Jeez, we call it the "Kelvin Timeline" don't we? Forgot about that. I dug the hell out of this movie when it was new but holy hell did they make things complicated for themselves and new fans moving forward! They did such a good job fanservicing the re-cast actors so they could Boldly Go Where No Franchise Has Gone Before and then in the next movie.... Well, she'll get there.
Great reaction. Definitely watch old Trek! I do like this movie, but not the sequels, the original stuff was great overall (apart from The Motion Picture).
Congrats, Jen, on hopping aboard the "Wagon Train to the Stars"... which is the term Gene Roddenberry used to pitch Star Trek to the Big Three American television networks back in 1964. Westerns ruled TV in those days. You are in that special class where your introduction to Trek is the 2009 film set in The Kelvin Timeline without any prior knowledge of the original series/films events. As far as continuing your journey with Star Trek, I would recommend watching OLD TREK before watching the 2013 and 2016 sequels. I'm not saying to watch the entirety of the TOS(The Original Series) era, but watch a few episodes to familiarize with the characters...the main characters, the Enterprise ship, the adversaries(Klingons, Romulans), get to know the story that Roddenberry wanted to tell. Then begin with the films. The Motion Picture(1979), The Wrath of Khan(1982)
Late to the party, just starting the video, and i already KNOW you’re gonna love it. It’s just great fun! Something they did that was very clever was to completely reset the Star Trek universe and everything that happened in the original series (TOS), by changing everything with the time-travel mcguffin. So then they didn’t feel obligated to “remake” the events of the old series (or movies). Though they do still run into an “old friend” in the next one. 😉
As big an impact as Star Wars had Star Trek is just as iconic. The friendship that exists between Kirk and Spock is legendary. This captured it very well. 🖖🖖🖖🖖 You should definitely watch the rest.
A-MAZ-ING! Great reaction, Jen. Just so you know, you are now obligated to watch at least the other two 'Kelvin Timeline' movies - Into Darkness and Beyond. Star Trek is a MUCH wider and deeper universe than anything I think you may have come across before. This movie probably touches on a lot of lore - it's kind of setup as a reboot/alternate timeline for the TV series Star Trek that aired back in the 60s for three seasons. In that show, Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Sulu, Chekov, and Uhura went on their adventures with the USS Enterprise. Yes, Lenoard Nimoy played Spock in The Original Series (TOS) as well as older Spock in this movie. This movie touches a lot of things from TOS - Kirk and Spock's (and McCoy's) friendship being at the top of the list. Spock was actually the favored over Kirk by many viewers throughout the run of the show and it's many years in syndication. You can (and should) watch TOS if you liked these characters. I think you may be a closet trekkie without even knowing it from your reaction to them. I will also say one of the things that impressed me the most about this movie is the new visualiztion of these characters by new actors. All of them just nailed the feel of these characters from TOS. Probably after you finish the Kelvin Timeline movies (you will finish them, yeah? :)) , the next logical thing to watch would be the the older films starting with The Motion Picture from 1979. Please, please be aware that some of these movies (and all of Star Trek really) are hit and miss - there are some that are really, really good, and some not so much. But generally, just like Star Wars, fans love them all. Also know that there are 13 movies all told and 6 multi season TV shows that have all been completed, plus another 5 more tv series that are currently in production with at least a season for each, and there are probably more in development. There is a LOT of Star Trek content out there, and be careful about falling down the rabbit hole - unless you have already fallen down it, and in that case, just sit back and enjoy the ride, and react to what you can so that we can take the journey with you. Again, great job, and whatever you choose to do for us, I will be very, very happy.
Jan if you will go back to when Scotty beams aboard Kirk,Pike, and Spock simultaneously look at his Transporter Asst. His name is Chris Doohan. James Doohans son. He also plays Scotty in the Fan Web made videos called 'Star Trek Continues' and he not only favors his father but does a fantastic Scottish accent like his father. No disrespect to Simon Pegg but had Chris Doohan been a younger man then he would have been the better choice to play his father's role. Thank you Jan for your reaction Podcasts!❤
Old Trek, yes please. 2, 3, 4, and 6 are good reactions. 1 and 5 aren't as good and also stand alone so you're not missing anything from the larger story. 2-3-4-6 are one semi-contiguous story.
Loved watching your full reaction to this one on Patreon, Jen. Chris Pine also plays an important character in the movie "Wonder Woman", another movie definitely worth reacting to IMHO.
@@jenmurrayxo If you want to watch it in context with all the DC films of that era, you've already got the first one under your belt: Man of Steel (2013). Here's the full list: DC films (part 1) - Man of Steel (2013) - Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice (early 2016)
Hey Jen, it's been a while still watching just haven't commented in a while. But I'm a Star Trek guy cuz I'm old and I remember the originals. You don't have to post them or you can. I'm glad you enjoyed this. But you need to watch some of the original series. There are so many inside jokes. Character references. Pop culture phrases. And relationship dynamic that you didn't get. This is basically an origin story. Understanding who kirk, spock, checkof, Sulo, basically the whole crew. One of the things that you will get which is amazing about this movie. Is how all the characters really nailed the speech patterns and quirkiness of their personalities. Love you Jen love your channel you're awesome. Before you watch the next movie. Please, please, watch a few episodes of the first season of the original and it'll make the movies much better. ❤️💚☘️🇺🇦
Lifelong Trekkie here! I actually think this movie is a great place to start for new fans. It has modern sensibilities while sticking to the core emotional resonance of the original characters, and even though it’s full of Easter eggs, a new person doesn’t need to have seen any of the previous TV shows or movies to understand it. You should definitely finish this movie series before moving on to the original, because this trilogy is its own thing. But once you’re done here, if you want to know more, there are many places to start. The original Star Trek aired in the late 1960s, and while its special effects haven’t aged well, it is still full of many great stories, and introduced the original versions of Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Uhura, Sulu, Scotty, Chekhov, etc. You wouldn’t need to watch the full series, though. There are many “Essential Episode” guides out there to follow. After the original series came an animated show and a series of 6 movies starring the original cast. Towards the end of the movies, a new TV series (Star Trek: The Next Generation) was launched, with all new characters on an all-new Enterprise, set roughly 100 years after the original series. That series eventually got its own movies, too, AND spawned two spin-off TV series - Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and Star Trek: Voyager. All of those series ran for 6+ seasons. Then came a prequel series called Star Trek: Enterprise, set 100 years BEFORE the original show. And now (whew), there are currently 5 - yes, 5! - brand new Star Trek shows running: Discovery, Picard, Prodigy, Lower Decks, and Strange New Worlds. All of them have some connection to the original shows, and even explore new genres for Star Trek (animated kids’ show with Prodigy, and animated adult comedy with Lower Decks). Needless to say, there is A LOT of Star Trek out there. I love all of it, but some fans prefer the classics over the new stuff. Either way, it’s a heck of a good time. I believe that Star Trek at its worst is still better than most other shows. It’s stayed true to its guiding vision of IDIC (Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations) for 50+ years, and that’s not something most other franchises can claim. Live long & prosper, and welcome to the Trek family!
Odds are, any streaming platform with the original series will be the remastered, which replaced all of the original effects with CGI. So it's a little more tolerable from a modern audience perspective. haha
@@jenmurrayxo You’re welcome! I don’t like fans who try to gatekeep like that. Star Trek is for everyone, always has been. Any media that brings new fans to Trek is a good thing IMO, and it’s the job of the old guard like me to welcome them to the bridge. Enjoy Star Trek!
@@ChrissonatorOFL Yes, but now the space shots look REALLY out of place lol. The Original Series and Next Gen era still have all their goofy make up and costumes that are very much products of their times. BTW, all of Star Trek is on Paramount+ in the US. It’s the only reason I sub to that service.
I am huge fan of Star Trak and I wish I see this film on cinema, however I enjoy watching this DVD. Hey Jen, you are awesome and most coolest movie geek 😊
🖖 Would love to see more Trek reactions! The original show can be a little hard to watch by modern standards, but it’s still worth checking out at least the best episodes. The Next Generation is my personal favorite, but I haven’t come across a Trek show I don’t like in some way. The new show Strange New Worlds is probably most like the original series, and includes Uhura and Spock as well. Thanks for watching this movie, and I hope you become a Trek fan as well!
I like 1 and 2 of this series. 3 just felt like the actors thought they were rock stars (popular). The original movies, you can skip the first one. Even the actors hated it. The Next Generation movies are very good. Hope you enjoy.
If you are looking at the old Trek. If I recall correctly, the first big block buster Star Trek movie, The Wrath of Khan. The studio did a one-time airing of the Old TV series episode it was based on call Space Seed. I think the idea was that most of the audience would have some familiarity with the characters and have a better understanding of the background behind the story.
James T. Kirk's name was "James R. Kirk" in the episode Where No Man Has Gone Before. A young Spock was beaten up by Vulcan boys in the animated Star Trek episode Yesteryear(1973). The Chris Pine Kirk is "Maverick meets Han Solo". This is the first Star Trek movie in the "Kelvin timeline".
I certainly hope you venture into the original movies. They are worth watching and you don't really need to watch any of the original episodes for them (Space Seed is one that you will get recommended a lot before watching Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan). If you do venture into the four "Next Generation" movies, it is highly recommended watching a few of the TNG episodes prior to the movies. Also, if you loved the music in this movie, you'll love James Horner's score in Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan.
These three movies were my start of Star Trek and I’m glad. Had I watched the old stuff first i probably would of thought it was stupid. These movies remain some of my favorite
OLD TREK This one and the next are pretty good. But I think you'd get more from them if you had already seen the original movies. The even number Treks are typically the good ones. I think you won't like the originals as much if this is what your expectation is when you watch Star Trek.
Though, to be fair, only 5 was truly horrible. 1 is important and truly beautiful, just really overly drawn out and slow. But it did give us one of the best musical tracks ever, the Klingon Battle Theme. Not to mention the possible origin of the Borg. 3 gave us Christopher Loyd as a Klingon and the most gut wrenching death scene in all of Trek... you know the one I mean 😢
Now, if you watch the OG Trek movies, you're going to be drawing on the 2009 Trek for comparison. My suggestion is to stop watching the modern Treks until you see at least the first 4 OG Trek movies. Especially the Khan stuff.
Oh there is a ester egg in this film from Star Wars. ILM did the special effects on this film and they snuck R2D2 in to it. If you play the scene where the Enterprise arrives at Vulcan super slow R2 can be seen in on the view screen in all the wreckage.
🖖 to both series. As someone old enough to have watched The Original Series when it originally aired, there are many of the TV episodes that you should see also; they would give you insight into the Kirk/Spock/McCoy trio, as well as introducing you to the fine storytelling and the rest of the crew.
OLD TREK! 🖖🏻🖖🏻🖖🏻 I grew up during the time of the of 80s 90s Trek, I’m a massive Trekkie these series is a very fun reimagined take on the classic series. I LOVE the Enterprise all of them.
That’s 7 seasons of material!! and then Voyager, Deep Space 9, the OG series (3 seasons), and all the newer series. I’d stick to this trilogy, the old movies, and the old series. That’s manageable for a RUclips/Patreon channel.
This is a fun movie by itself. What rubbed a lot of Star Trek fans the wrong way was that the plot of this movie goes back to a time pre-Kirk and restarts the timeline. What that means is that according to this movie, nothing in the history of Star Trek TV-shows or movies ever happened. It completely erased everything that Trek-fans had loved over a period of around 50 years, and said that these movies are the only Star Trek that exists now. You could argue against that idea, but that is certainly how I felt when I stood up out of my seat at the end of the movie when I saw it in the theater. By itself, though, it's a likable movie. The main differences between these movies and the Trek TV-shows are: 1) Action (The new movies are mostly action at a frenetic pace. The TV-shows have very little action.) 2) Ideas (The movies are mostly plots as an excuse for action. The TV-shows are mostly examination of an idea. Like, an episode will start with something happening that will raise a moral or philosophical question, which then gets examined through the plot & discussion.) Neither approach is better than the other, but there is an argument to be made that these new movies are not very Star Trekkian. Not to say that you shouldn't enjoy the new movies. They're fine. But if you do go on to watch some of the original series (series'?, series's?, How do you pluralize series? :P), they will be different in tone. Either way, enjoy. :)
I had a beer and rewatched the 2009 Star Trek (a year later before I watched the rest of the trilogy) over on Patreon FREE to check out if you want to watch along: www.patreon.com/posts/patreon-star-98605898 I got a lot more of the references this time after watching Original Series! 😂😂
STAR TREK REBOOT TRILOGY: ruclips.net/p/PLQHhQlj8i5doZs95Xwlr8wmPuyDVNfMIi
ORIGINAL SERIES: ruclips.net/p/PLQHhQlj8i5drsrCtQd-FDuZZ99vKlPTyZ
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OLD TREK!!! especially 2-4, & 6.
New...Old...here anyway Jen!
Old Trek, but just II, III, and IV. Kind of an unofficial trilogy.
Fart Trek
OLD TREK! 2-4 is basically a trilogy (and 4 is hilarious, btw). 6 is a beautiful send off for the *real* Enterprise crew.
8:17 Perhaps the most "F**k you" version of "Live Long and Prosper" that was ever uttered :P
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I was thinking that too
@@andrewblanchard2398 T'Lyn from "Lower Decks" got pretty dang close at the end of the episode "Lower Decks" ruclips.net/video/mk5-4SA7zAs/видео.htmlsi=C-6Mf90xEwA61rM_&t=48
"He's cute too!"
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RIP to Anton Yelchin (nuTrek Chekhov). He was a handsome kid and a talented actor who should still be with us.
Being run over by your own car is a terrible way to go out.
Did you see "Hearts in Atlantis"? He was so young and a great little actor!
@@Scottie_S Did you see "Rudderless"? Great Actor, Great Movie.
@@Scottie_S I loved the movie Odd Thomas with him playing Oddy.
@@kananiokala4423 I did not. I'll have to check it out!
@@Scottie_S I think you'll like it. Also, the music in it is incredible.
6:54 Vulcans have the same emotions we do, possibly even stronger. After almost destroying themselves with wars there emerged a philosophy by which they suppress their emotions and use logic to guide their actions.
Like earth Vulcan had its aggressive colonization period, savage even by earth standards.
@@markemerson8399 Love and hate are on the same side, apathy would be the opposite of those.
Also Romulans are an offshoot of Vulcans who chose to embrace emotion and reject logic, which is why they are so aggressive.
@@AdhamOhm Add to that, original timeline Spock is referred to as Ambassador Spock because he was the Vulcan ambassador to Romulus following the Federation / Romulan Cold War. ... There's a bunch of original series / next generation history to unpack there.
@@RJ_MacReady Nice. A direct quote from Spock in TOS. 👍
i was 6 years old when TOS started in 1966. grew up with Star Trek. one thing you'll come to realize about the franchise is Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scotty, Sulu, Chekov, and Uhura are all the main characters of the show, some more than others, but the MAIN star is U.S.S. Enterprise. she was and is Star Trek. you'll see the love for her after watching more. "you treat her like a lady, and she'll always bring you home". greatest line in the entire Star Trek universe.
Fun Fact, Jen: In the film “The Terminal”, Zoe Saldana (Uhura) played someone who likes Star Trek. Five years later, she STARRED in it! 🤓
Love that! She seems like a Sci fi nerd at heart ☺️🖖
She stars in that alongside Diego Luna, who goes on to play Cassian Andor in Star Wars.
@@jenmurrayxo The Original Uhura, played by Nichelle Nichols (who passed away just this last year.) Was a huge civil rights Icon. At one point she considered leaving the show, but was strongly encouraged by Civil Rights leader Martin Luther King, Jr to stick with it, because she was one of the very first black women to be portrayed as a major character on TV who wasn't a maid or slave or servant type, but as an equal. She went on to work with NASA on minority recruitment, and was a direct inspiration to Dr. Mae Jameson, the first black female astronaut. Mae Jameson also had a cameo as a crew member in an Episode of Star trek: The Next Generation. The Enterprise was a rarity at the time, with an ethnically diverse crew, because the creator wanted it to be representative of a future where Earth was United and everyone was equal.
I forgot about her character liking Star Trek.
@@nathancline4000 And Star Trek was first show that actually showed interracial kiss. It was huge thing.
14:19 "Shivers, I love a good space ship" -- Clip this moment and share it on all your social media. People will love seeing the moment you met the most important ship (space or otherwise) in the history of fiction. The Enterprise is a character you're about to become very familiar with, and I can't wait to join you on the ride!
Great idea! ☺️🖖
Remember that they named the first space shuttle to fly (not in space 😞) " the Enterprise ". It was being carried piggy back on the back of a modified 747. All after this Space Ship Enterprise from the TV series. It's what the Fans wanted.
Original refit is my favourite.
I love that Jen had a crush on basically everyone on the Enterprise except Sulu and Scotty. Might be the highest number of crushes Jen has had in one movie! :) Very much enjoyed how much she got into the plot and the friendship between Kirk and Spock.
Have to say Scotty was played poorly here. They didn’t need comic relief
Tbh I thought they were cute too 😂😂🖖
@@OnTalyn Scotty was regularly comical in TOS and the 80s films. Pegg played him to perfection, and as a Scot, I can tell you that he nailed the accent.
@@jenmurrayxo you're kinda gorgeous yourself ❤️
@@OnTalyn That's a ridiculous take
I first met these characters in the 70's as a kid. The original series had such an impact on pop culture, the first space shuttle that the US created they named after The Enterprise. I adored this movie in the theatre, saw it twice.
There's a poll on Patreon now to choose some episodes of the original series before Wrath of Khan 🖖
And the Enterprise from Star Trek was named after the real life USS Enterprise, the most highly decorated US warship ever, which served during the Second World War. That name actually has quite the history.
Nichelle was the main proponent to name the first shuttle--Enterprise. And she worked for N.A.S.A. And by the way; every's boy's dream; Uhura.
I don't know was it the Enterprise or was Uhura? Every boy back then--- it was Uhura.
Jen, I love that you felt heartwarmed by the Kirk/ Old Spock dialogue. You should definitely go back and watch the original series so you can see how that bond developed over time, as well as all the other character histories, the Vulcan lore, etc. Welcome to the fandom!!
Thank you!! ☺️There's a poll on Patreon now to choose some episodes of the original series before Wrath of Khan 🖖
@@jenmurrayxo Well, no matter what the poll says add Space Seed to the list, as that sets up the whole Wrath of Khan movie.
@@jenmurrayxo space seed is the episode where you originally meet khan, they brought him back for the movie
Yes Jen, Highly recommended that you start with the Original Star Trek series and then the Originals Trek Movies so you can get a better appreciation and maybe even love for the characters and review each episode and movie while your at it :) And later if your inclined too, watch Star Trek the Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager and Enterprise to get the over view of the Real/Prime universe ( 1966-2005 ). These Trek movies are fine, but remember they take place in an ( the moment Nero and Old Spock appeared thru that black hole) alternate universe.
@Heatsinker _ I've been watching Star Trek the original series on Patreon 👍
The late Ben Cross as Sarek always breaks my heart when he tells Spock that he married his mother "Because I loved her".
I never watched the old Star Trek movies growing up, this was my first Star Trek I ever watched but when I went to go watch the Old ones for the first time they were awesome so I definitely recommend watching them.
Ship? Out of danger?
Old trek the movies and shows till 05 just have something special about them that while I can watch these they don't all feel like trek
@@chaddubois8164 Yes.
There's a poll on Patreon now to choose some episodes of the original series before Wrath of Khan 🖖
Especially the even numbered Star Trek movies
13:30 James Doohan was a Canadian who played a Scotsman in a science fiction TV series.
The officer here is played by Paul McGillion was raised in Canada (that's his normal accent) but is best known for, yet again, playing a Scotsman in another science fiction TV series. Fortunately for him, his parents are Scottish and his brother is a doctor, so all he needed to brush up his role as a Scottish doctor was to phone home to family.
YES LOVE THESE MOVIES!
The opening scene takes place in 2233, while the rest of the movie takes place in 2258.
Star Trek Into Darkness takes place in 2259.
Star Trek Beyond takes place in 2263.
This is called the Kelvin Timeline, an alternate universe where Kirk and the lives of the Enterprise crew were changed forever.
The original timeline takes place in 2266-2269, for the TV series.
Star Trek The Motion Picture takes place in 2278-79
Star Trek II The Wrath Of Khan takes place in 2285.
Star Trek III The Search For Spock takes place in 2285.
Star Trek IV The Voyage Home takes place in 2286.
Star Trek V The Final Frontier takes place in 2289.
Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country takes place in 2293.
Star Trek Generations, the opening scene takes place in 2293, while the rest takes place in 2371.
Star Trek First Contact takes place in 2373.
Star Trek Insurrection takes place in 2375.
Star Trek Nemesis takes place in 2379.
The Motion Picture takes place 2.5 to 3 years after the conclusion of the five year mission, which according to an episode of Voyager, ended in 2270, so ca. 2272 or 73.
Love this!
Thanks for sharing this! Very thorough!
Good breakdown except for your dates for Star Trek The Motion Picture, which was no earlier than 2273 and no later than 2275. VOY established the end of the TOS 5-year mission to be 2270.
I’ve been into Star Trek my whole life . I’m 58 and never knew those timelines . Thanks that’s really cool
BTW: The voice warning Nero ("Sir, if you ignite the Red matter...") was Will Wheaton, aka Wesley Crusher from Star Trek: The Next Generation.
"I like him too, McCoy." WTF!?! Sorry. It's a really great line, winking at the audience, but Jen, you made it even funnier by just going with it. You'll understand when you watch the OG cast in the older Trek movies, and you meet the (ahem) real McCoy. Sorry, couldn't help it. That's a "I need to take a shower now" level pun.🖖
As a Trekkie and a member of a Trekkie family, please go back and watch Old Trek… especially if you plan on continuing New Trek. It will just make better sense if you do😊
Absolutely! This timeline only really makes sense if you know the Prime timeline first. I can't imagine not recognizing Nimoy and the emotional weight of his scenes. It's a fun action movie either way, but it's more than that if you know what it is playing against (and let it be... I'll never understand the backlash from some of the fandom.) That said, might as well finish these next two films first. Might get confusing otherwise. Finish this timeline, then backtrack.
This!
To quote Spock's re-education computer in 2285(ish) INCORRECT. Ik NUMEROUS Trek fans who got into Trek because of this, it's 2 sequels or the 6 series launched since 2017. This is a renaissance of Trek that started here 14 years ago(this is the more Trek we've had in production since DS9 and VOY were in simultaneous production).
OLD TREK. I recommend starting with the 5-year mission episode "Return to Tomorrow". Probably their best Sci-Fi adventure! (yes, I am trying to get people to call the "original series" "The five year mission series!") :) IMO, None of the movies really stand on their own without seeing at least SOME of the best episodes. from TV. There's just too much to miss in the form of references to the TV show. Then watch "The city on the edge of forever" and "Court Martial (the one that shows how truly awesome Kirk is)" And you will be fully versed in Start Trek. Then you'll be able to appreciate the movies on another level.
Jen, your taking your first step in a universe that is AWESOME! I'm sooooo here for this one! Love Love Love your choices Jen,here as always...Eric
Good Evening Eric. Sorry I'm late; just got back from taking my Niece home. We had a Fun night, mostly just watched some movies. The Girl had never seen "Top Gun" before, Original or Sequel, so I had to rectify that!!
@@tomhoffman4330 Hey Tom, did you get my first message? Because it disappeared?
@@e.d.2096 Agreed! Jen has already done "Total Recall" ('90), would be great of her to complete Verhoeven's Sci-Fi Trilogy at some point. . .
@@tomhoffman4330 Which Top Gun did you see?
@@e.d.2096 We made it a Double Feature: Original & Sequel...and she loved them both!!
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982) is still the best movie of them all, in my humble opinion. It blew my mind as a teenager and is still awesome.
Hey Jen, I have always loved the ideas in Star Trek, when you understand that they live in a world in which we have figured out endless energy, solved food hunger and distribution, solved housing inequity and the pursuit of a career is not for money but intellectual enlightenment. ------- Then what is left for us.
TO EXPLORE. Such are the grand ideas that were postulated by Gene Roddenberry. You can't help but be spellbound by such optimism.
When this came out, it was still in 35mm film. The scenes with the Enterprise above Titan, Spock, I have snips of 5 frames of the film of those scenes.
Glad you liked this Jenny the main characters are fantastic they did a great job on recasting the main ones.
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PS: Oh yeah! Ahem. Since she was assigned to a starship that got destroyed at Planet Vulcan, Uhura's Orion roommate died, albeit offscreen, so not many people ever think of it. 😮😢
From an old Trekkie, definitely old trek! 🖖🏼
0:31 Mark! Jen! I got a new smartphone, and as a result, I just now subscribed to you again! 😀
Now the problem is to remember what I've already seen here and like it all over again without watching it all over again. 🤔
4.7K Thumbs Up + Mine! 👍
OLD TREK. I'm sure you'll hear this from a lot of people, but definitely go back and watch the original Star Trek movies. They're amazing, and the main reason we still have Star Trek all these years later.
EXCELLENT POINT!
Mark 23:39. Now that's an Escape Pod, not a Shuttle Craft! 😊
I grew up on Star Trek (original series) and came into this film with trepidation, and I was overall happy with this. I enjoyed the early cast and the honour and respect paid to the original series. Zachary Quinto did a marvellous job as Spock and Pine actually looks like a very young Kirk in my head anyway. And as an Aussie, shout out to Eric Bana as the Romulan bad-ass... mind you, still waiting for the next promised film.....
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Jen this is a really great remake of this series! Had to rewatch this so i could watch your ST-2 Into Darkness reaction, which i loved!❤ I'm so happy you are continuing this new remake series! Thanks for sharing! ❤️💛 Live Long and Prosper!🖖
I'm a huge Star Trek fan, so this was a really fun reaction. I know the old show can seem a bit dated by today's standards, but if you ever decide to give it a shot, even just a few episodes, I think you won't be disappointed. It's classic tv.
I think she is better off sticking with the films from TOS). The TV series was just too corny and dated IMO. And this is coming from a massive TNG and DS9 fan.
Just posted a poll on Patreon to choose some episodes to watch before Wrath of Khan ☺️🖖
@@jenmurrayxo Great! It's been a long time, so I look forward to revisiting those with you.
Episodes should include Journey to Babel. Apart from being a great episode in itself, it stars the original versions of Spock’s parents.
Space Seed leads into Wrath of Khan, so that’s a definite.
The Enterprise Incident is a nice Romulan episode, see also Balance of Terror.
Also need some Klingons in the mix… Trouble With Tribbles or Errand of Mercy.
Finally Amok Time for a Vulcan centred episode.
@@jenmurrayxo Awesome! Can't wait to see your reactions.
So happy that you love this film! :D
The Star Trek fandom is ancient and massive, so naturally there are a lot of opinions about each series and film iterations. A lot of warring passionate opinions in the comments, I'm sure.
Personally, I love that you started with the AOS films! While I understand many of the reasons why old trek fans have beef with these films, I don't share them and I love both TOS and AOS for very different reasons. I love that they went the "alternate universe" route with the time travel, because that separates the stories of these characters from the original series in a neat way, and now we can have multiple versions of these characters I love without making unnecessary comparisons! It's a win-win!
The AOS films and all the fan content they inspired definitely have a special place in my heart.
Also, love that you immediately became so invested in Spock, his dual nature and his and Kirk's friendship, when those are pretty much the driving forces of why the original series has always been so loved :D
I whole-heartedly recommend that you keep watching these films!
So great to see you discover Star Trek. 'Old Trek ' 🖖 . I have been and always will be a fan of the original, or TOS to us. The new incarnation leans too much on combat. Not the Trek ideas I grew up to love, but I am thrilled it continues. You may have issues if you try reacting to the series, others have. But hopefully you will try. 🖖💫
I agree whole heartedly. Space combat was never engaged lightly on TOS & TNG and they always tried a peaceful solution first when they could. JJ just wants phasers flying around and Kirk punching people.
🖖First of all, if no one else has mentioned it, “older Spock” was Leonard Nimoy, THE Spock from the original series and films. Before you go further with these movies, I would recommend watching the original series and at least Star Trek 2, 3, and 4. You would have a greater appreciation for the newer movies and the whole Star Trek phenomenon.
Hey Jen, Star Trek and Sci-Fi in general are such a great conduit to postulate on human emotions and interactions in the future. Humans react the same way to unknown environments and circumstances since the dawn of time. With fear and trepidation. Since the future is unknown, the palette for world-building is infinite when it's come to sci-fi. Then place likable characters in that environment with dramatic circumstances and we get a very compelling storyline.
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@@jenmurrayxo Live Long and Porper. ☺🖖 and I vote NEw TREK.
Old Trek!!
I'd start with Star Trek 2 because 1 is VERY dry and slow moving.
Star Trek: The Next Generation tv show is a *_phenomenal_* series that is a serious must watch as well! The first season was a little rocky at first until everybody was 100% comfortable, but seasons 2 through 7 (the final season) are *_amazing!_*
Yes, it was exhilarating in the theater.Thank you for reacting to this.
Hey Jen, welcome to the Star Trek universe. There are those who are lovers of all things Star Trek (a.k.a. "Trekkies") and those who are Star Wars lovers (a.k.a. "Warsies"). I am a great lover of both.
I definitely and highly recommend watching the other two Trek films along with some of the original series/movies as well. People on your social media and RUclips handles will give you the appropriate suggestions on which to watch to help move you along accordingly.
Some facts about the Enterprise:
"The Enterprise was originally going to be named Yorktown, but creator Eugene "Gene" Roddenberry was fascinated by the aircraft carrier Enterprise and had 'always been proud of that ship and wanted to use the name.' The NCC-1701 registry stems from NC being one of the international aircraft registration codes assigned to the United States. The second C was added because Soviet aircraft used Cs, and creator Matt Jefferies believed a venture into space would be a joint operation by the United States and Russia. Jefferies rejected the numbers 3, 6, 8, and 9 as 'too easily confused' on (television) screen; he eventually reasoned the Enterprise was the first vessel of Starfleet's 17th starship design, hence 1701. "The Making of Star Trek" explains that USS means 'United Space Ship' and that "Enterprise is a member of the Starship Class". Licensed texts, on-screen graphics, and dialogue later describe the ship as a Constitution-class vessel."
I look forward to the next Trek reaction(s)! 📽❤️🚀
Jen, Great reaction. Fantastic selection. 🖖
Old Trek fan here. Before watching the next one in this series of films (Star Trek Into Darkness), I recommend watching the Episode "Space Seed" from Star Trek: The Original Series and Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan (1982). Without spoiling anything, Space Seed and Khan offer a backstory to Into Darkness. Plus they're very entertaining in their own right.
Glad you're doing Star Trek!
Just posted a poll on Patreon to choose some episodes of TOS before Wrath of Khan! ☺️🖖
This trilogy is the perfect intro for Star Wars fans looking to get into Star Trek, mostly because JJ Abrams(who directed the first two) is a Star Wars fan and directed these movies as such. The creators of this trilogy were also nice enough to set this all in an alternate timeline, a lesson I wish most modern Trek would learn from.
I know you're unlikely to see this but I recommend checking out Old Trek and the order that I think is most understandable for newbies(which is always contested by some Trek hardliners) is watching it all in-universe chronological order. Which in my opinion goes like this:
-Star Trek: First Contact(movie)
-Star Trek: Enterprise(series)
-Star Trek: The Original Series(series)(I recommend finding a "best of" or "must watch" episode list for this one)
-Star Trek: The Original Series movies(there are 6)
-Star Trek: The Next Generation(series)
-The first 3 Next Generation movies(you can skip First Contact here since it was the first thing on this list[there's time-travel involved so just trust me if this seems confusing here])
-Star Trek: Deep Space 9(series)
-Star Trek: Voyager(series)
-Star Trek: Nemesis(movie)
I would avoid any modern Trek, they don't really hold to past lore or Canon, and are honestly not up to par with classic Trek. And of course finish this trilogy out before anything, the third is my personal favorite. LLAP 🖖
I did just post a poll on Patreon to choose top 10 eps of TOS before I watch the old movies ☺️🖖
That's good! Also just watching all the movies without checking out any of the series is totally viable. It's honestly how a lot of people get into Star Trek initially. Just know the classic Star Trek shows are some of the best written television ever! Even TOS from the 60s which is still highly relevant and wonderful, if not a bit campy sometimes. 😆 🖖
You are my hero, Jen, for naming Spock your MVP.
To a 13 year old me, Spock became someone I could both empathize with and eventually attempt to emulate/pattern myself after. To say the character and the actor had a huge impact on my life would be an epic understatement. And in hindsight I wouldn't have had it any other way.
I recommend you immerse yourself in both the Old and New Star Trek.
Live long and Prosper.
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@@jenmurrayxo Wait a minute Jen, am I seeing this correctly..? You Hearted your own Reply, instead of his comment?? I didn't even know you could do that. . .
What did think of Spock in the "Strange New Worlds" series? The episode "Spock Amok" is now one of my all time favorites.
@@kananiokala4423 I haven't seen those unfortunately. Perhaps someday...
Loved Loved LOVED your reaction to this. Full disclosure, I watched the original series as a teenager in the mid 1960's on first run American TV. And I've watched every Star Trek up through Star Trek Enterprise. So I'm biased. I have two things to say. When it comes to the order to watch these in, don't listen to us. Do what feels right. Because whatever order you watch them in IS the "correct" order.
And two, speaking as someone with over half a century worth of watching, seeing you stepping into this universe and reacting to it (no matter where you enter the saga) is a delight. For me, it ranks right up along side my introduction to Star Trek. Thank you for sharing this with me. Thank you for sharing this with us.
Personally I like the older Star Trek series/movies more, so I would love to see you explore at least some of that at some point. Since I've discovered your channel I have greatly enjoyed watching your reactions. The fact that you give old movies a chance, like starting your James Bond journey at the very beginning, is really awesome and it seems you can just enjoy them regardless whether they are a bit dated or not. In my opinion people these days can get too focused on the best graphics possible and lose sight of other factors that can make a movie entertaining. I hope you keep enjoying yourself in watching new franchises/movies!
Thanks! I try to have fun with whatever I'm watching 👍 There's a poll on Patreon now to choose some episodes of the original series before Wrath of Khan 🖖
I love watching your reactions Jen, you are always so entertaining!
I grew up in the 60’s watching the original Star Trek series and have watched every series and movie, and have even attended Star Trek conventions… so, I think you’d call me a true Trekkie. Lol
I’m very happy that you have started to discover the amazing Star Trek universe that I’ve loved for so long, BUT, I’m disappointed that you’ve started with the reboot. Don’t get me wrong, I like the new movies, but fans weren’t thrilled that everything they’ve known and loved for the past 60 years was wiped out with a new timeline, or the fact that they rehash and change plots and characters from the original shows.
You would have enjoyed this movie much more if you’d seen the original series and movies first by watching the friendships, personalities and characters develop over the many years. Seeing Spock and McCoy bickering at every chance has been a delight for me over the years.
Anyway, again, I love your reactions, they brighten my day!
I vote for OLD TREK, followed by NEW TREK
I couldn't watch the first new reboot after 15 minutes. It's like a cartoon compared to the older films (The Motion Picture, The Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock, etc.) The writing is awful, the characters are juvenile, it's a real disappointment.
There's a poll on Patreon now to choose some episodes of the original series before Wrath of Khan 🖖
Great reaction as always Jen and I'm super impressed that you can do the hand gesture 🖖. The original movies with the original cast are much better story wise in my opinion but that's only because that's my era and I still enjoyed the modern movies even though it was a bit weird with the time line changes. So I would definitely recommend watching the originals. Live long and prosper 🖖🖖🖖
An Old Trek fan since the Original Series and i Loved this and the next 2 films! I have all 3 film scores on vinyl. For the 50th Star Trek Anniversary a traveling Orchestra came to Jones Hall, Houston TX, and performed film and tv scores from the entire Trek Franchise. I have a cool Trek tshirt from the concert with a top view of the Enterprise composed entirely of classical instruments, it rocks! LLAP🖖
The camaraderie of these characters is legendary. The old films, although set in an alternate timeline, have the same feeling about them. I do suggest that you visit these films at your convenience. Some are good, some not as much... But as a whole, they're excellent. So skipping films is like not reading an entire chapter in a good book just because it's a bit less interesting. You've just embarked on another epic journey... Good for you!! :)
There's a poll on Patreon now to choose some episodes of the original series before Wrath of Khan 🖖
@@jenmurrayxo I'd say 'Space Seed' for sure. For the rest, just keep in mind that the original TV series was the Enterprises' FIVE YEAR MISSION in space, to explore strange new worlds and seek out new life forms...
Well, are the new movies that are placed in an ALTERNATE timeline... the old timeline is called the PRIME ...
They are the most famous pair in TV history. Even beating Batman and Robin.......................in my oh so humble opinion.
I'm so glad you mentioned the score.
Michael Giacchino is a genius.
Chris Pine has played a variety of roles in a variety of movies. He and Tom Hardy were C.I.A. officers who were rivals for Reese Witherspoon's affections in "This Means War." He was Prince Charming in "Into The Woods."
He's great and doesn't take himself too seriously.
"This means war" is a great movie, loved it.
Everytime I saw a billboard for that movie I thought oh look kirk vs picard
Tom Hardy also starred in Star Trek: Nemesis (The TNG-movies)
This is better than watching the movie imo. You do the best reaction edits hands down. I love all the Star Trek stuff 🖖🏼 make it so!
I know that you would enjoy the original series. I think that you would have a good time with The Next Generation. I really think that Deep Space 9 would be your favorite ST series. You would also enjoy Voyager and Enterprise. Star Trek is not always a series for everyone. But watching you react to so many movies... You would 10000% be a Trekkie
There's a poll on Patreon now to choose some eps of the original series before Wrath of Khan 🖖
🖖 OLD TREK. Fantastic Jen! You must continue your Trek. Like others, I strongly recommend watching the first six films next, then returning to "Into Darkness" and "Beyond". The main reason being that "Star Trek: Into Darkness" heavily homages "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan". You don't necessarily need to watch the original TV series as "Star Trek: The Motion Picture(1979)" is an excellent jumping on point. It is a much slower paced film though. The middle four films, or "Next Generation" films; Generations, First Contact, Insurrection, and Nemesis do require at least watching a dozen or so key episodes of that series to fully appreciate. They don't do as good a job giving the full cast proper spotlight and feature only two characters fully. Live long and prosper.
I always thought that it was a bad jumping on point as there are so many references that only someone who knew old trek would get.
There's a poll on Patreon now to choose some eps of the original series before Wrath of Khan 🖖
New Trek: Now that you have started on your 'Trek' it would be illogical not to continue on to it's ultimate conclusion.
Old Trek: For greater understanding of the lore, it would likewise be illogical for you not to watch the original SIX movies from the old timeline also.
As always, your reactions continue to entertain and elicit emotional responses. I find myself eagerly anticipating your next video. 🖖🏻
Thanks Steve! There's a poll on Patreon now to choose some episodes of the original series before Wrath of Khan 🖖
One thing for sure: do *not* go further into the New Trek (Kelvin Timeline) series without watching some of the original series, and at least Old Trek movies 2, 3, 4, and maybe 6. There are references that you’re missing - it’s like watching Young Frankenstein without watching the original Karloff classic.
I saw this at the cinemas when it came out, then I bought it on dvd cos it was so epic. Made me rewatch the original star trek shows and movies with kirk and spock.
Awesome reaction, Jen! And yes, you definitely need to watch old Trek! If you do, you’re in for a real treat.
After watching the first film “Star Trek: The Motion Picture”, I’d recommend watching The Original Series Episode 22, titled “Space Seed” before watching the 2nd film “Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan” to get a good backstory that’ll help you understand the plot of the movie better. The first 6 films are with the cast from the Original Series and the remaining films are with the cast of “Star Trek: The Next Generation”.
The JJ Abrams films follow what is referred to as “The Kelvin Timeline” which altered the history and origins of how the characters became part of the Star Trek universe.
Yes to the Tv series too! These movies are based off of the American tv series from the 60’s. They are classic even though they only ran for about 2 or 3 seasons. If you reacted to the actual series you might be the first reactor EVER to do them? There may be copyright issues with them and maybe that’s why but if you could figure them out?
William Shatner as Capt Kirk and Leonard Nemoy as Spock are ICONIC in America.
Sorry, I watch too many reactions….Pretty sure you’re one of us🤔. No language barrier I can detect. Maybe Canadian?? 😂
Yeah, that would be awesome to see a reactor give the original series a go, even if Jen only does a small selection of fan-favorite episodes (like a top 10, perhaps) to start with if she doesn't want to commit to watching every single episode. Of course, the ideal way would still be to just watch all of the original series first so that she gets to see the great dynamic between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy and grows to love them as characters. But if the time investment for that is too much, I'd love to see her at least react to a couple episodes.
I’m a massive ST fan (my faves being TNG and DS9) but, while I never really cared much for TOS the TV series, the movies II-VI (minus I and V) are all fantastic and well worth the watch.
Two things I remember from the cinema was Karl Urban does a great job in mirroring the persona of the McCoy character from the original show. The second may sound a bit weird but the film was really colourful, maybe it was just my cinema but it sticks out as a memory.
As a child of the 60's, and with my dad having an expansive SF novel library from Jules Verne to E.E. "Doc" Smith, I grew up watching the weekly episodes on CBS and NBC of Star Trek, then later in syndication.
That run-on sentence was to emphasize that making this your 1st Star Trek movie was, counter-intuitively, the right way to go.
I recommend that you NOW watch the original cast movie trilogy of ST2TWOK, ST3TSFS & ST4TVH. You won't regret it.
Thanks David! Def taking some heat for watching this one first but I'm glad I did. I did make me interested enough to want to see older stuff & I'd like to think I have an open enough mind to be able to enjoy all of it ☺️🖖
@@jenmurrayxo LLAP 🖖
Mark 26:59. Random Crew Member: "Sir! The water tastes Scottish!"
Officer: "Do you mean it tastes like Scotch?"
RCM: "No, Sir! It even smells like a Scotsman!"
Officer: "You probably drank used shower water!"
RCM: "No, Sir! It was sink tap water!"
Officer: "Then our water plant has been compromised! Brown Alert!" 😅
Yeah, this is one of my favorite movies, the music, the action, the comedy, I've watched it 💯 times, and will watch it again a 💯 more times , thanks Jenny Penny 🤓👏🎉👍🥳🤗
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After the update today I had to come and rewatch this edit 🖖such a fun reaction if you could feel half the joy your reactions make us feel you would be smiling for days 🔥 your little captions always make me happy my favourite 'Very cool dance moves' is the best 😅 super looking forward to into darkness now especially as you know the characters so well now it's going to be great 👍 not a very insightful comment I'm leaving but if it even makes you smile a little then job done 🖖 hope you enjoy the rest of your day Jen make it so !
As usual, fun reaction. Personally, id have started at the begining, but this works. I felt like this was close to original cast members. So many things will make sense if you go back, especially to the original series, but that would be your time permitting. But please check out more! 🖖
Yeah, that would always be my first recommendation, but I think the 2009 movie works okay as an introduction for a modern viewer, all things considered. Hopefully it sparked an interest to react to the original show at some point. The Kirk/Spock/McCoy dynamic is one of the best things about the old show, and Jen seemed to really enjoy that aspect of the movie.
Jen humming along:Bom Buh Bom reminded me of Peanut saying Jeff Dunham's name;Jeff-Fa-Fa Dun-Haam.😂
Definitely recommend the Old Trek films and TV Series if you want to go down that rabbit hole
In fact, Greg Ellis who played Olsen aka the daredevil in red when they did the orbital skydive, he previously played a character in Star Trek Deep Space Nine from 1999. :D
OLD TREK. Keep in mind this movie and the next two after it are set in the Kelvin Timeline, which is a different reality from all the other Star Trek properties (movies, television shows, etc.). So there is a lot of references/homages to actual Star Trek in this that you would appreciate more if you watched them, but there are serious differences as well (as you noted). However, this movie is still a good intro to the franchise for some one completely new to it (unless you started just watching the Original Series television show). I would highly suggest that before you watch ST: Into Darkness, you watch ST: The Motion Picture and then ST: The Wrath of Khan. That will help you contrast both this movie and Edge of Darkness better.
Jeez, we call it the "Kelvin Timeline" don't we? Forgot about that. I dug the hell out of this movie when it was new but holy hell did they make things complicated for themselves and new fans moving forward! They did such a good job fanservicing the re-cast actors so they could Boldly Go Where No Franchise Has Gone Before and then in the next movie.... Well, she'll get there.
Fun fact: in the original series Kirk and Uhura had the first interracial kiss on television.
Great reaction. Definitely watch old Trek! I do like this movie, but not the sequels, the original stuff was great overall (apart from The Motion Picture).
Congrats, Jen, on hopping aboard the "Wagon Train to the Stars"... which is the term Gene Roddenberry used to pitch Star Trek to the Big Three American television networks back in 1964. Westerns ruled TV in those days. You are in that special class where your introduction to Trek is the 2009 film set in The Kelvin Timeline without any prior knowledge of the original series/films events. As far as continuing your journey with Star Trek, I would recommend watching OLD TREK before watching the 2013 and 2016 sequels. I'm not saying to watch the entirety of the TOS(The Original Series) era, but watch a few episodes to familiarize with the characters...the main characters, the Enterprise ship, the adversaries(Klingons, Romulans), get to know the story that Roddenberry wanted to tell. Then begin with the films. The Motion Picture(1979), The Wrath of Khan(1982)
old trek watch wrath of Khan, Search for Spock, Voyage home and Undiscovered Country
Late to the party, just starting the video, and i already KNOW you’re gonna love it. It’s just great fun!
Something they did that was very clever was to completely reset the Star Trek universe and everything that happened in the original series (TOS), by changing everything with the time-travel mcguffin. So then they didn’t feel obligated to “remake” the events of the old series (or movies). Though they do still run into an “old friend” in the next one. 😉
As big an impact as Star Wars had Star Trek is just as iconic. The friendship that exists between Kirk and Spock is legendary.
This captured it very well. 🖖🖖🖖🖖
You should definitely watch the rest.
There's a poll on Patreon now to choose some eps of the original series before Wrath of Khan 🖖
A-MAZ-ING! Great reaction, Jen. Just so you know, you are now obligated to watch at least the other two 'Kelvin Timeline' movies - Into Darkness and Beyond. Star Trek is a MUCH wider and deeper universe than anything I think you may have come across before. This movie probably touches on a lot of lore - it's kind of setup as a reboot/alternate timeline for the TV series Star Trek that aired back in the 60s for three seasons. In that show, Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Sulu, Chekov, and Uhura went on their adventures with the USS Enterprise. Yes, Lenoard Nimoy played Spock in The Original Series (TOS) as well as older Spock in this movie. This movie touches a lot of things from TOS - Kirk and Spock's (and McCoy's) friendship being at the top of the list. Spock was actually the favored over Kirk by many viewers throughout the run of the show and it's many years in syndication. You can (and should) watch TOS if you liked these characters. I think you may be a closet trekkie without even knowing it from your reaction to them. I will also say one of the things that impressed me the most about this movie is the new visualiztion of these characters by new actors. All of them just nailed the feel of these characters from TOS.
Probably after you finish the Kelvin Timeline movies (you will finish them, yeah? :)) , the next logical thing to watch would be the the older films starting with The Motion Picture from 1979. Please, please be aware that some of these movies (and all of Star Trek really) are hit and miss - there are some that are really, really good, and some not so much. But generally, just like Star Wars, fans love them all.
Also know that there are 13 movies all told and 6 multi season TV shows that have all been completed, plus another 5 more tv series that are currently in production with at least a season for each, and there are probably more in development. There is a LOT of Star Trek content out there, and be careful about falling down the rabbit hole - unless you have already fallen down it, and in that case, just sit back and enjoy the ride, and react to what you can so that we can take the journey with you.
Again, great job, and whatever you choose to do for us, I will be very, very happy.
Yeah... 100% should have started with the old ones. Especially given the plot of this film.
I enjoyed this movie. Sorry you didn't enjoy my video 🤷♀️
Jan if you will go back to when Scotty beams aboard Kirk,Pike, and Spock simultaneously look at his Transporter Asst. His name is Chris Doohan. James Doohans son. He also plays Scotty in the Fan Web made videos called 'Star Trek Continues' and he not only favors his father but does a fantastic Scottish accent like his father. No disrespect to Simon Pegg but had Chris Doohan been a younger man then he would have been the better choice to play his father's role. Thank you Jan for your reaction Podcasts!❤
OLD TREK!! We want the original Spocky!!
Old Trek, yes please. 2, 3, 4, and 6 are good reactions. 1 and 5 aren't as good and also stand alone so you're not missing anything from the larger story. 2-3-4-6 are one semi-contiguous story.
Loved watching your full reaction to this one on Patreon, Jen. Chris Pine also plays an important character in the movie "Wonder Woman", another movie definitely worth reacting to IMHO.
Oooh I really want to see that!!
@@jenmurrayxo If you want to watch it in context with all the DC films of that era, you've already got the first one under your belt: Man of Steel (2013). Here's the full list:
DC films (part 1)
- Man of Steel (2013)
- Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice (early 2016)
Hey Jen, it's been a while still watching just haven't commented in a while. But I'm a Star Trek guy cuz I'm old and I remember the originals. You don't have to post them or you can. I'm glad you enjoyed this. But you need to watch some of the original series. There are so many inside jokes. Character references. Pop culture phrases. And relationship dynamic that you didn't get. This is basically an origin story. Understanding who kirk, spock, checkof, Sulo, basically the whole crew. One of the things that you will get which is amazing about this movie. Is how all the characters really nailed the speech patterns and quirkiness of their personalities. Love you Jen love your channel you're awesome. Before you watch the next movie. Please, please, watch a few episodes of the first season of the original and it'll make the movies much better. ❤️💚☘️🇺🇦
Hey Tad! Glad you're still around! ☺️There's a poll on Patreon now to choose some eps of the original series before Wrath of Khan 🖖
Old trek so you can understand characters better. Great channel and great reactions. 👍
Thanks Gerardo ☺️🖖
Official survivor advice 😂 you’re funny! 🖖
Lifelong Trekkie here! I actually think this movie is a great place to start for new fans. It has modern sensibilities while sticking to the core emotional resonance of the original characters, and even though it’s full of Easter eggs, a new person doesn’t need to have seen any of the previous TV shows or movies to understand it.
You should definitely finish this movie series before moving on to the original, because this trilogy is its own thing. But once you’re done here, if you want to know more, there are many places to start.
The original Star Trek aired in the late 1960s, and while its special effects haven’t aged well, it is still full of many great stories, and introduced the original versions of Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Uhura, Sulu, Scotty, Chekhov, etc. You wouldn’t need to watch the full series, though. There are many “Essential Episode” guides out there to follow.
After the original series came an animated show and a series of 6 movies starring the original cast. Towards the end of the movies, a new TV series (Star Trek: The Next Generation) was launched, with all new characters on an all-new Enterprise, set roughly 100 years after the original series. That series eventually got its own movies, too, AND spawned two spin-off TV series - Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and Star Trek: Voyager.
All of those series ran for 6+ seasons.
Then came a prequel series called Star Trek: Enterprise, set 100 years BEFORE the original show.
And now (whew), there are currently 5 - yes, 5! - brand new Star Trek shows running: Discovery, Picard, Prodigy, Lower Decks, and Strange New Worlds. All of them have some connection to the original shows, and even explore new genres for Star Trek (animated kids’ show with Prodigy, and animated adult comedy with Lower Decks).
Needless to say, there is A LOT of Star Trek out there. I love all of it, but some fans prefer the classics over the new stuff.
Either way, it’s a heck of a good time. I believe that Star Trek at its worst is still better than most other shows. It’s stayed true to its guiding vision of IDIC (Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations) for 50+ years, and that’s not something most other franchises can claim.
Live long & prosper, and welcome to the Trek family!
Thanks Bob! I appreciate the info & not berating me for watching this one first 😂🖖
Odds are, any streaming platform with the original series will be the remastered, which replaced all of the original effects with CGI. So it's a little more tolerable from a modern audience perspective. haha
@@jenmurrayxo You’re welcome! I don’t like fans who try to gatekeep like that. Star Trek is for everyone, always has been. Any media that brings new fans to Trek is a good thing IMO, and it’s the job of the old guard like me to welcome them to the bridge.
Enjoy Star Trek!
@@ChrissonatorOFL Yes, but now the space shots look REALLY out of place lol. The Original Series and Next Gen era still have all their goofy make up and costumes that are very much products of their times.
BTW, all of Star Trek is on Paramount+ in the US. It’s the only reason I sub to that service.
Came here to say all this and saw it was already well said. 🖖
I am huge fan of Star Trak and I wish I see this film on cinema, however I enjoy watching this DVD. Hey Jen, you are awesome and most coolest movie geek 😊
🖖 Would love to see more Trek reactions! The original show can be a little hard to watch by modern standards, but it’s still worth checking out at least the best episodes. The Next Generation is my personal favorite, but I haven’t come across a Trek show I don’t like in some way. The new show Strange New Worlds is probably most like the original series, and includes Uhura and Spock as well.
Thanks for watching this movie, and I hope you become a Trek fan as well!
There's a poll on Patreon now to choose some episodes of the original series before Wrath of Khan 🖖
Also Captain Pike.
I'm so glad you enjoyed this. Look forward to the NEW TREK and OLD TREK reactions
I like 1 and 2 of this series. 3 just felt like the actors thought they were rock stars (popular). The original movies, you can skip the first one. Even the actors hated it. The Next Generation movies are very good. Hope you enjoy.
If you are looking at the old Trek. If I recall correctly, the first big block buster Star Trek movie, The Wrath of Khan. The studio did a one-time airing of the Old TV series episode it was based on call Space Seed. I think the idea was that most of the audience would have some familiarity with the characters and have a better understanding of the background behind the story.
Yes to the old movies
Yes to de new ones too
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James T. Kirk's name was "James R. Kirk" in the episode Where No Man Has Gone Before. A young Spock was beaten up by Vulcan boys in the animated Star Trek episode Yesteryear(1973). The Chris Pine Kirk is "Maverick meets Han Solo". This is the first Star Trek movie in the "Kelvin timeline".
I certainly hope you venture into the original movies. They are worth watching and you don't really need to watch any of the original episodes for them (Space Seed is one that you will get recommended a lot before watching Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan). If you do venture into the four "Next Generation" movies, it is highly recommended watching a few of the TNG episodes prior to the movies.
Also, if you loved the music in this movie, you'll love James Horner's score in Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan.
These three movies were my start of Star Trek and I’m glad. Had I watched the old stuff first i probably would of thought it was stupid. These movies remain some of my favorite
OLD TREK
This one and the next are pretty good. But I think you'd get more from them if you had already seen the original movies. The even number Treks are typically the good ones.
I think you won't like the originals as much if this is what your expectation is when you watch Star Trek.
Though, to be fair, only 5 was truly horrible.
1 is important and truly beautiful, just really overly drawn out and slow. But it did give us one of the best musical tracks ever, the Klingon Battle Theme. Not to mention the possible origin of the Borg.
3 gave us Christopher Loyd as a Klingon and the most gut wrenching death scene in all of Trek... you know the one I mean 😢
I don't have expectations when I watch movies, I just enjoy them for what they are
Now, if you watch the OG Trek movies, you're going to be drawing on the 2009 Trek for comparison.
My suggestion is to stop watching the modern Treks until you see at least the first 4 OG Trek movies. Especially the Khan stuff.
Oh there is a ester egg in this film from Star Wars. ILM did the special effects on this film and they snuck R2D2 in to it. If you play the scene where the Enterprise arrives at Vulcan super slow R2 can be seen in on the view screen in all the wreckage.
🖖 to both series. As someone old enough to have watched The Original Series when it originally aired, there are many of the TV episodes that you should see also; they would give you insight into the Kirk/Spock/McCoy trio, as well as introducing you to the fine storytelling and the rest of the crew.
OLD TREK! 🖖🏻🖖🏻🖖🏻
I grew up during the time of the of 80s 90s Trek, I’m a massive Trekkie these series is a very fun reimagined take on the classic series. I LOVE the Enterprise all of them.
I grew up with them too and they're my faves, but what is really considered "Old Trek"? I always get the feeling people only mean TOS with it.
Gotta watch the TNG movie series now, Jen! You opened the box. OLD TREK
That’s 7 seasons of material!! and then Voyager, Deep Space 9, the OG series (3 seasons), and all the newer series. I’d stick to this trilogy, the old movies, and the old series. That’s manageable for a RUclips/Patreon channel.
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TNG had a significant influence in forming me into the person I am today.
Big Love from a trekkie.
This is a fun movie by itself.
What rubbed a lot of Star Trek fans the wrong way was that the plot of this movie goes back to a time pre-Kirk and restarts the timeline. What that means is that according to this movie, nothing in the history of Star Trek TV-shows or movies ever happened. It completely erased everything that Trek-fans had loved over a period of around 50 years, and said that these movies are the only Star Trek that exists now.
You could argue against that idea, but that is certainly how I felt when I stood up out of my seat at the end of the movie when I saw it in the theater.
By itself, though, it's a likable movie.
The main differences between these movies and the Trek TV-shows are:
1) Action (The new movies are mostly action at a frenetic pace. The TV-shows have very little action.)
2) Ideas (The movies are mostly plots as an excuse for action. The TV-shows are mostly examination of an idea. Like, an episode will start with something happening that will raise a moral or philosophical question, which then gets examined through the plot & discussion.)
Neither approach is better than the other, but there is an argument to be made that these new movies are not very Star Trekkian. Not to say that you shouldn't enjoy the new movies. They're fine. But if you do go on to watch some of the original series (series'?, series's?, How do you pluralize series? :P), they will be different in tone.
Either way, enjoy. :)