Nikolas Cruz's premeditated aggression & violence not consistent with defense claims: Psychiatrist
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2022
- A forensic psychiatrist who examined Nikolas Cruz testified that his actions at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School are not in line with the mental health claims of fetal alcohol syndrome made by Cruz's defense experts. Dr. Charles L. Scott told jurors that Cruz's premeditated aggression and violence is more consistent with antisocial personality disorder & conduct disorder.
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The mental health specialist has a very good memory recalling detailed information.
This kid had more help than most kids..the kids that don't get that much help don't go and kill his schoolmates.
Exactly
Very true! No child left behind? He had all the therapy and attention a kid could get. I was a bad kid and in high school I was suspended many times. I was angry alot for no reason and they diagnosed me bipolar. I never wanted to kill anyone at all.
NC mother was prostitute that was addicted to Crack cocain and abused alcohol all through her pregnancy with NC... no prenatal care lots of Crack cocaine and malt liquor. It's well known and documented that babies exposed to drugs in utero may experience developmental consequences including impaired growth, birth defects, and altered brain development. Prenatal drug exposure may impact the child's behavior, language, cognition, and achievement long term...
So true
@@christinearianna2424 I knew plenty of rebellious kids. I went through that, too. This Cruz guy here is just pure evil... A doctor can't fix Satan... And trying to pretend like good and evil doesn't exist is ridiculous... They're trying to label evil as mental illness to try to explain it away smh. Nah... He chose to be evil. He worships Satan. Disgusting...
We need more doctors like him. Man… he is on point, remarkable memory. His patients are lucky to have him.
@@rakuyo1213 okay and what have you found exactly?
@@rakuyo1213 lol thank you mr wisdom for keeping all the forbidden knowledge to yourself
Irony: Cruz had an overload of doctors treating his mental illness. That should tell you something about how useful psychiatry is.
Tbf he's a forensic psychologist so he probably spends considerable periods of time testifying before courts.
He knows what's expected of him during testimony
This Doctor gave the best testimony of all the witness combined He painted a clear and detailed picture of who Nikolas is .He has a great memory and is so well spoken.I think his testimony was saved for the end for these reasons.
He has no chance after hearing this Dr…
I take one 54mg conserta pill every day. I have used conserta about 20 years. I was diagnosed with ad/hd to late. If I was diagnosed as a child, my life would be better to day. My school years was like hell. I am now 44 y.old, and life is ok, but not good. My life Improved after medication. I had anxiety, and anger problems. I was lucky to have some friends, but I have never wanted to kill people. 🤔🙂.. Regards from Norway..
Short summary. You can’t fix evil. My heart breaks for the WASTE of resources on this kid, considering all those who might have benefited from those services.
Exactly. Probably is involved in occult rituals.
@@katerinapatiniotis5598 guns ,oh wait do you bilive in god?
@@PedroPinto6667 Do you believe in proper grammar/spelling? You can't read or comprehend the Bible without literacy. 😉
Yup yes he had issues but he is born evil u cant fix it something missing in his head
@@Face_Reality the Bible is a bunch of old Jewish folk tales
He wanted attention but went about it the wrong way. Nicholas is a master manipulator. You
Remarkable work from this doctor.
Ok can we stop blaming the school or the teachers? They did everything physically possible. He had all the support any child could hope for. Sounds like he should have been in a different school separate from the average student.
He was in a separate school for a number of years
Might be a clue as to the actual value of psychotherapy. And if you would have been listening, he was placed in a school for at risk kids.
Of course the school and the teachers are going to play dumb. It’s their jobs on the line and there’s evidence to suggest that the school was unsupportive and hostile towards him for minor infractions or trivial issues. That one teacher abused security services on Cruz on a regular basis because of stupid crap like him showing up to school dressed as Spider-Man or for taking one of the teacher’s pencils.
Do you think he did this out of the blue and for no reason? No, he did it out of anger and hatred towards Stoneman Douglas High School and their toxic community.
@@UndertakerU2ber “Toxic community.” Wow, great reason to stalk and kill children.
@@michaelricketson1365
You mess with the bull you get the horns.
Expecting a victim of bullying and abuse to just accept the unfair treatment is hypocritical. Why should they be allowed to ignore the rules/law yet the victim be accosted when they break the rules/law?
Black boys who act up in school just get the cops called on them and they go to jail. Forget the psycho analysis and put this maniac away.
Thank you!! This is straight up vvhite privilege smh
This poor kid has a big psychological problem... while he was in the womb of his mother.. his father farted in front of her..
Wow the amount of support he received is mind blowing! BUT instead he made the decision to snuff out the lives of innocent souls! No mercy to this evil thing..
Exactly. He didn't want help.
Mental disorders can't all be solved with meds and therapy. NC was doomed before he was even born...
@@codyramos3200 that’s correct! However he had an adoptive family who showed him love and much support regardless his mental health but he made a choice which ended in sad ramifications for his victims families and himself.
Man, expert testimony at court is always so fascinating
We need these types of programs in our poor black communities rather than let them slip through the cracks
Here we go …. It’s municipality fool
They do called 504plan or IEP
AMEN!
Or or now hear me out the black parents could be more responsible and teach their kids to be better members of society …
@@dirtedirte8771 are black kids going and shooting up schools?
Like one of the victim's parents said, Cruz didn't fall off the grid; he WAS the grid.
Sounds like trauma.
He got so much help that even during his interrogation he thought the detective wanted to help him. He’s a narcissistic, lacking empathy, little f.
I was a senior in high school the day this shooting happened and I remember looking on my phone in class and seeing all the videos and the news and being literally terrified. It is so sad nothing has changed
2000
This person is beyond repair
Yes it seems like everything that could have been done except for a lot of follow-ups had been done it wasn't like there wasn't people that didn't know his behavioral patterns it was just allowed to persist until he exploded.
@@ericklein5927 agree!
It's like a broken glass. Trying to glue the pieces together and at the end it's never the same. It's still a broken glass.
This killer has had enough money spent on him throughout his life. Stop the spending and put him away!
It’s sad, but you can’t fix these type of people. Not medication, nor psychiatry.
Yeah that's what can happen when mothers smoke Crack and abuse alcohol all through their pregnancy.
He had choices. He chose this. We can’t blame any disorder for this. He knew better and he chose evil.
What if said medication broke him in the first place?
@@peterfilipovic absolutely - noted twice how his adhd medication had caused increased agitation and anxiety but this is totally brushed over as ok
His biggest problem was poor early childhood parenting. Had he received the minimum parental interaction that is expected of all parents, he would not have had most of his issues. While his early childhood intellectuall development suffered due to this, he obviously recovered from that way before this incident. His early childhood psychological development, however, remained, the eventual significance of which became hidden due to the wealth of programmatic support he received.
Dr Scott really was through with the records since Cruz was a baby. So in-depth and great memory and presentation on the stand.
Dude really failed kindergarten.. that should’ve been a give away
😂🤣
Certain members of the jury obviously slept through this part.
Never a good outcome for kids who are put on ADHD meds at such young age...
No excuse!
I got diagnosed with bipolar with psychotic features. And multiple personality disorder. I don’t do this. I choose to get help and want to change
How about the rest of you all? Mr. Multiple! Lol.
@@ksagstertohi6156 Better to have a mental health issue that you acknowledge and try to get help for than be a mean person, making fun of others sharing their experiences. Maybe one day you too can become more self-aware and compassionate to others.
so you are alsob y all meanings a narcissiti anti social disorder ecause if you have bipolar commorbidities with psychosis a dissociative identity you have no choice to developp narcisism and sociopathic features that doesn t mean you willkill at all but you have to be conscious of that many psy are themselves cluster b so they won t diagnose people most of the psy dont know cluster b but if you know aout psychology deeply you kow im right im a phd specialized in traumatic ad dissociative pathologies and cluster b personnality disorders that eplais yoir selective fake empathy
@@JAK0449 No, you are not lol. This is so incredibly incorrect and hard to read it would be embarrassing to anyone with remotely real credentials you claim to have.
Which minority would get such scrutiny? The book would be thrown at them immediately.
Man if he was a black kid all this will not be going on and this is crazy
Here goes the propaganda pushers again. Bot elsewhere!
Why do you keep doing this , you want to get away with murder ? You'd only say this if you were a criminal trying to get away with crime because you're black
@@TheIndependentLens push some nuts homie
Yup. That's that good ole vvhite privilege for ya!
@@TheIndependentLens oh hush you know it's true.......
Concerta is no joke, I took it my freshman year of high school and it made me super depressed and exasperated anger issues I used to have.
My friend gave me that medication when I was in college so I could focus. It made me edgy and jumpy and it made me sick. I had a close friend who also had bipolar and I had her try the medication and it worked perfectly for her. Also she didn't want to kill anyone
@@christinearianna2424 I’m not saying Concerta is the reason he did what he did. With school shooters it’s a whole host of things that lead them down that path and one of the things these school shooters have in common is they’re put on a cocktail of medications at a very young age.
@@Cgalloway2000 I understand. My daughter is 9 years old and has down syndrome and all of sudden has been acting out and I spoke to my husband and my mom and we really don't want to give her medicine. I just don't know when to give me meds and when not to. She acts out only sometimes. My friends son used to complain all the time about the meds. I remember the doctor always said if it made you jumpy and high you shouldn't take it. If you feel normal take it. I don't know if that's right or not lol
Exacerbated
Hard agree.
Whole thing is f** tragedy. His biological mother pollutes his mind while in the womb, with crack & alcohol, according several eyewitness. The kid was broken when he was born. The whole thing is very upsetting. 17 dead students; because a woman couldn't stop her deadly addictions
That still don't excuse the fact that he planned it, & bought the gun & ammunition
She may have put him in the wrong car headed for a wall but HE pressed on the gas.
What about the addictions his psychiatrist gave him - noted twice how this wonderful medication caused him anxiet and agitation . Awful
He wasn't in the EDD the emotional Disturbed classes so he did fall through the testing through your school district... I'm sure they tested him for that also along the way it's part of any psych test to get him evaluated and put on 504 IEP different plants thus the severity and the need for the different types of plans and goals for teachers
What strikes me is how he just fell apart right after his mom died. November2017, dad had passed a couple years before that. It took him 3 1/2 months to enact his plan. Mom & Dad no longer present to oversee him. Evil.
You know how my son would get attention?
By acting bad .
I would say ; I Love you , but not your behavior.
Love and attention go a long way.
I would transition and move to the next subject.
Its what you put into it is what you get out. I'll say a pray for Nick. 😞
I heard That growing up being bad doesn't get you attention
Antisocial personality disorder can be a genetic thing. Sometimes the parents do everything right, and they have an emotionally disturbed child.
So this happened because he broke up? He said he wanted to ruin valentines day for everyone because he didnt have a girlfriend? He did all of this because of a break up????????
Actually he wasn't with this person, she was with another guy, & he wanted her to be with him. He kept texting her tho
That poor girl. I can't imagine the pain she's experienced from this.
Around mid teens FAS 50 % become violent.
It is almost definite his mothers abuse of drugs and alcohol affected him in the womb thus making him an FAS baby.
They do not outgrow this.
such a great explanation of the mind and what this persons thinking was
Is this the rebuttal?
Yes, it is
Duh 🤪🤪🤪🤪
Awful amount of effort went into defending a Loser of the worst kind. . . 😖
You totally missed ms y's assessments
He had IEP has many yearly reports
He's just reading from those reports
God, you have sent this remarkable Doctor to the families, thank you, thank you
Bad behavior problems since kindergarten and continued through all of his school years yet no one or no social services of any kind done anything about it.
Actually he had counseling...do NOT blame social services
did u not even watch the video 💀
Doctor IQ 220
Disgusting that he was put on strong medication at such a young age.
His entire life improved when getting on them.
- His IQ increased
- His behavior got better
- His academic performance drastically improved.
It seemed like it made his life better. I’m so sick of people refusing to give necessary medications to children because of “the evil pharmacy!”
No, it is not. My son started on ADHD meds at 5 years old. It saved his life. Do not associate that (medication at young age) with Cruz obvious evilness.
@@emilydoe4139 I agree. People who aren't medical, psychological professionals need to sit down.
This makes more sense cause an old friend of mine their biological parents were doing heavy set drugs while they were pregnant with them and she was diagnosed with bipolar and anxiety
Dr. Scott reminds me of Jamey Sheridan. Specifically Chicago Hope era Jamey Sheridan.
Jamey Sheridan the porn star?
During their interview, the doctor played dumb so as to make Him open up more. It worked beautifully. Wonder if the boy has figured out that he got beat by a full grown man?
Shut her "defense", if that's what you want call it down. This guy blows all their excuses out the water, even when she questions him directly. I think when the defense found out about this Doctors testimony they when the "rested thier case".
Please don't warehouse this monster.
He deserves the DP
Sue the "ADHD" drug manufacturers, and prescribing doctors.
He would make a fantastic professor if he is not already
Unfortunately the truth is you can try to stop evil.... as you should.... but that it isn't always productive.... and still good will always prevail even if we can't see it....
He reminds me on the Jaime (James ) the three year old murdered by two ten year olds Bulger Killers from Liverpool, England..Nicholas is like Jon Venables ..Jon Venables is exactly like Him in everyway ...
He was too young for those meds why didn't the use Adderall or Ritalin. I had my daughter in FSYR. That also helped her.
My God these mental health workers talk a lot of psychobabble. They have names for all kinds of human conditions and it's all about trying to sound like they really do something when everything in reality they say is subjective. There's no tests to prove anything, it's not like neurology it's not like measuring thyroid levels or blood sugar levels or testosterone levels or using an x-ray or an MRI. even when they see brain activity they don't know whether the brain activity is causing the behavior or the behavioral changes shows activation in certain parts of the brain.
Right - prescribed medication for adhd and this wonderful stimulant akin to meth caused the poor Young child aviation and anxiety. Awful stuff. Psych is mainly complete nonsense and how its a medical speciality is a joke
Traduccion al español o português por favor.
If schools themselves had that guy's knowledge about behavior, there might be a chance for success for some kids out there. Damn it, but this makes me think about the abortion ban. Because, an unloved or unwanted baby is going to have some issues when growing up. This kid is really fkd up for actually carrying out his plan. Maybe if kids have a stable family, food and a place to live, they will not feel as though they have to act out for live & attention. Let's get our kids some good guidance and love. Now! So this may not happen again. Our President and local governments should make this a priority in the US!
I live in the UK and have always thought we should have the death penalty here, but listening to this case I would hate to be on this jury. Everything he did points to him getting the death penalty but is that not an easy quick end for him ? Yet the families live in pain, with a constant reminder every valentines day, a day of love and happiness? Perhaps the best course of action is to make him live, make him face the families every dam year of his life, which unless its spent in solitary confinement won't last too long, like here your prisons are full and crimes like this are not forgiven by other criminals. This case has made me re-think my stance on the death penalty except perhaps crimes against children which is what this case falls under, as I said I'd hate to be on this jury. You international USA class 19year olds as children although they can drive at 16 but can't drink till they are 21 you allow guns as part of your self defence stance,.its all very complicated as this is a crime against children by a child.
From what I understand crime has exploded in Britain much of it coming from radicalized Muslims and people basically outlawed from defending themselves. My God Sir Winston Churchill as well as the marquee of Queensbury must be spinning in they're graves over
the pussification today of what was once Great Britain.
In less word’s!he whast not right from none angle in his head!
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Habla Ingles??????? Si no ingles, silencio por favor lol
@@lisahughes8779 😂🤣🤣🤣
Deep evil inside ,gave all the resources and tx in gold plate ,waste of time and money .
sounds like with a little discipline through ROTC, he was a good student, had a girlfriend and was doing well- but the break up may have spiraled a series of negative emotions from his severe abandonment. I wonder if this got his psychiatrist to rebalance him with SSRIs and sent him on his new journey into madness
He wasn't taught how to deal with negative emotions and self-hate. It's a tragedy.
I don't think the Army would've been great for him. He probably would've been prone to commit needless acts of violence and kill innocents. He had these recurring thoughts of violence for years.
PTSD is always treated badly and under estimated. Upper drugs are not for people with severe PTSD.
@@TheDirtysouthfan you apparently never read Chris Kyles book, psychopaths like him come home decorated as heros
Off course his acadamic results improved under medication. But you can`t jump any conclusion out of that fact.
Nothing typical here most kid's and adults are slow learners.
Nobody really KNOWS what he’s thinking, or everything he’s experienced. We can call someone evil, but really, that’s an emotional response. Many things we may never know, and doctors aren’t always correct. These are the professional opinions of doctors. I’ve seen a lot of kids like that, who were convicted of things. I’ve personally witnessed teens lie through their teeth, and paint a completely false picture of a peer to authorities, when I saw otherwise first hand. He may have been pushed over the edge. Anyways, hating a person will further nobody. We need to work on forgiveness & healing.
It's very hard to forgive and heal when you are in agony from the loss of your beautiful, innocent, loving child. He knew his actions were wrong, he knew the seriousness of carrying them out. Forgiving is easier said than done, it's just too painful. But yes hopefully in time the families will be able to forgive for their own well being, but it could take decades.
It was one thing to have the desire to do this, however he planned this out, he got a rifle, he was thinking about when the kids would get out of class, how long the police response would be, how he would bring the rifle onto his Uber without arousing suspicion, he thought about how many people he wanted to kill etc.. It's one thing to have thoughts like this, it's another to just succumb to them and act out on them. He should've not committed the shooting and went to someone about this. This is Cruz's fault full stop, he wasn't failed or anything, he failed everyone else.
@@lonelylantern9135 They were ALL beautiful children.
@@lonelylantern9135 These families will never forgive him. He even said he wanted to make the families suffer. I will never forgive him, and I only followed his case from here. I can't imagine how they feel every moment of everyday
@@mgpw4tn487 well he sure made himself suffer too, what with life in prison. His life is rubbish now. He can't even sleep in a comfortable bed, or listen to song he likes. Stuck in a ugly cell until satan comes calling for his soul.
Did any kid who was given those medications actually get their life together?
His entire life improved when getting on them.
- His IQ increased
- His behavior got better
- His academic performance drastically improved.
It seemed like it made his life better. It’s changed the lives of many children in need.
I’m so sick of people refusing to give necessary medications to children because of “the evil pharmacy!”
@@emilydoe4139 But look at how such people turn out? For some time they may be stabilized, but what are the long term effects? Should Nikolas's outcome be considered a case in point?
@@markemerson8399 Nikolas was a sociopath. His early medications had no bearing on his sociopathy.
My life drastically improved when on meds. I have friends who had the same experience.
Medicine is not the problem.
@@emilydoe4139 How is your life working out for you?
@@markemerson8399 I don’t think this is a result of taking the meds. This is a result of his mom dropping the ball and not continuing all medications and therapies as advised by Drs and school officials.
Wow he got therapy and meds. He got a lot of help.
The “system” did not fail him! His drunk of a mother did and then HE became an evil person!
NO EXCUSE!!!
And he deserves NO MERCY!!
So all of this special classes, counseling had no effect? Maybe rethink the approach and do something more effective with all that time and money!! A lot of other children could have been helped!! Dr doesn't mention why he was held back? A breakup with a girlfriend, like everyone else, and he can't handle it and blames everyone and punches out to the rest of the world?
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it
The fetal alcohol syndrome along with crack cocaine use by the pregnant mother what are those effects. Plus biological family psychological problems clearly he inherited a few. Being adopted and death of adopted parents that causes abandonment issues. Learning disabilities and students will act differently with different teachers even abilities of doing work can be different. He was like a crockpot of disorders. If you hear his biological family history it carried on no matter the environment, caretaker and schooling. They always get on planning and how the killer mind does things on impulse or detailed planning. If you have all those factors in one person how can you compare to others with just FAS. From the time he was a small child he had obsessed thoughts of killing and sexual deviation. Once he was older he had freedom to research his obsessions. I dont think anyone was surprised by what he did. When given the window of opportunity he ran on it to make is plan come true. Very sick individual that should have been not on his own. I dont think people realize a lonely outcast who feels he has no one on his side. Its like he has a companionship with his plan and demented friendships with deviants that he idolizes even if they never met. His mind probably constantly repeated triggers of people in his life that he felt hatred towards. His mind might have grouped them with similar individuals so by killing masses he was killing those individuals. I wonder the psychiatrist's actually unbiased analysis, because you can tell this is towards the prosecutor's side.
If this guy has seen hundreds of Aspergers in his lifetime, I will eat a broomstick. That statement was ridiculous. And if he would knew anything about ADHD, he would know, that neither Concerta 54 nor Strattera are proper medications. And that impulsivity is a core syndrom of ADHD.
never let "school" & "p h a r m a" mix, get it kids ?
I want that judge to sentence my face so be her seat for life without parole
This is a backwards L 👆
Hot judge
I know that he kill people!but it could have been stop ig he had the right help!but looks like he leave alone!poor soul!lord have mercy on Nikolas
With as many testings/evaluations and consultants he’s had, I’m trying to figure out how anyone could feel he didn’t get enough help. I don’t know one person who’s had as much help as he had.
Exactly, in my opinion he was coddled and given enough help to not be a monster.
Is not that simple is eating a candy!his brain is damage from birth there is no fit!
La surena are you not watching and listening?? There isn’t an assessment or treatment that this killer didn’t have.
Exactly. I have bipolar disorder which started in my teens. I wasn’t diagnosed until I was 40 years old. I was given antidepressants when I was 24 after I lost a great deal of weight and couldn’t eat or sleep. I had two young children, and worked a full time job. I thought I was losing my mind not knowing what was wrong with me. Antidepressants would help for a period of time and then doctors felt it necessary to wean me off of the meds. Incidents such as this continued until I was diagnosed at 40. I did always seek help up until I was diagnosed. My life was a living hell up until that point. Did I murder any people, or kill my family, or kill animals, or myself for that matter. I would’ve benefitted from the help he had. Even so, I somehow sucked it up, gritted my teeth, cried countless numbers of tears, and am 70 years old now. I do still suffer even with the latest meds, an excellent psychiatrist, and mental health therapist. I don’t feel sorry for the murderer. He is a bad seed that Satan got ahold of early on and sucked any and all goodness out of his soul. I don’t think he needs to spend his life in prison. I think he should be deprived from breathing the same air as we do. I think he must be terminated now using any means necessary.
Judge is hot.
Not important.
And this is a backwards L 👆
Soo cruz was an Error….delays in every aspect….what a disaster…….
Who gets put back in kindy garden. Lol……that would have pissed me off too.
My youngest son was held back and it set him up for bullying for the rest of his academic years. He’s 28 now but it actually took years of counseling to get him back on track. And special education classes literally ruined my little brothers life. I think that children in full special education classes need their own schools. That way they have a chance to learn among others who have the same issues WITHOUT being made fun of and bullied. When those classes are in the same schools, it’s a perfect breeding ground for pack mentalities. And THAT causes a myriad of problems. I don’t think it makes murderers, but it does cause significant damage. In this case however, he knew exactly what he was doing and what the consequences would be. His cruelty to animals tells you all you need to know about him.
Heck nah you said kindy garden 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I'm laughing my behind off right now