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What do you guys think of the voice over on this one? I messed around a bit in audacity and I know the P sounds came off weird but that can be fixed easily I was just dumb. Thank you all for watching
I think **modern ygo can be so much fun if every deck is a sort of midrange decks** like Branded, Sky striker or Swordsoul deck that have a short combo and let both opponents play the game with a decent amount of interactions. **The best yugioh gameplay I've ever seen was in March 2023 MCS finals** where 2 Branded Despia player fight each other in 10+ turns back an forth duel , better player wins through better understanding, strategy, skill and a bit of luck. That's what yugioh is all about, not locking out your opponent turn one and calling it a day. I hate those 10 min. "competitive" videos where no one can do anything against their opponent's boards and it simply comes down to rock, paper, scissors. Fuck floodgates, fuck FTKs, fuck combo deck and fuck just draw the out™ endboards, they're all against the spirit of playing a game. A couple back/forth duel of non-game-ending interruptions with some follow-up is where it's at.
I imagine from an outsiders perspective looking in, with Tear Mirrors having mills that trigger chain links in the double digits, everyone's grave messily piled on the board, and even spectators forgetting who's turn it was, it probably was not a great look.
I can argue for outsiders pretty much any format isn’t gonna be able to follow the pace of a modern combo deck, it’s not a year problem more than the general game itself
Seeing as it doesn't really seem to be the case now I'd say it's definitely a Tear issue. Not to say that these problems are EXCLUSIVE to Tearlament, but to act like the height of Tearlaments was normal by YuGiOh standards doesn't reflect reality. Other things can do what Tearlaments can do, but Tearlaments is not normal. That's like saying getting stabbed in an alley is normal because people have medical injections regularly and are fine. These things are the same in every way except the ways that actually matter.
@@ehhhhh491 In general. Here’s the thing with Edison, it’s made out to be a very free format - and a common reason people play it is because you’re not ‘forced’ to play hand traps, or blow out cards and use only the best cards. Besides Crystia Spam, Blackwing (without a doubt the best deck of that format), and maybe Frog Monarch, not only is the special mechanic, Synchro dead in the water, tribute summon Caius is literally the move in that format. As well, you all actually end up playing a lot of hand traps that instead of stopping your opponent stalls the game … woo!? It’s not all bad, it’s slow enough for bad decks to have a small chance, but the default Edison is the best or best of Yu-Gi-Oh! Is incorrect. It’s not skill based but really patient based (which can be a skill of itself, to be honest) but it hardly matters when your opponent uses their third battle faded and you over extended and it’s game one still and 5 minutes on the clock. If it was passed as fine, you know, whatever but the best format? No. I know that’s not it. I just know it’s nostalgia and copium for the modern game - and I love old and new Yugioh so I really can dig slower formats, but to say it’s great is a bit of a stretch.
For me, the best modern format is the format that existed between the September 2023 banlist and before age of overlord came out, it was one of the most diverse formats we had in a while and the top decks weren't oppressive and the only toxic strategy that existed in this format is the calamity lock and the gimmick puppet lock, but I feel like that it could be the next time wizard format to gain some traction in a year or two and i personally wouldn't mind going back to this format to explore it some more
Toss was when i first played the game. And i played Endymion. I just noticed i was way more welcoming to the summoning mechanics because I've never heard of Yu-Gi-Oh before, but i quit adore pendulums, hell , it's are my second favorite summoning mechanic behind synchro, i even love the concept of link monsters lol
Same, but I started with Pendulum Magicians, but it was because of Arc-V, It was the first Yu-Gi-Oh anime that I watched and I totally loved it, then I started playing Duel Links a bit before XYZs came to the game, specifically in the DSOD event, then started playing my loved Pendulum Magicians when Master Duel came out, using a optimized 3 structure deck deck list, that I continue to improve to this day with Extra Deck monsters and Handtraps.
My top picks, in the following order, would be Speedroid, Raidraptor and Odd-Eyes. Funny enough, I'm not usually partial to Xyz, I just very specifically like the Raidraptor-Phantom Knights-Xyz Dragon deck. Synchro and pendulum are absolutely my jam though.
@@arildaffa9352I don't see why Tear players had such a hard time grasping that. People have fun in lots of Tier 0 mirror matches, people STILL go back and play Dragon Ruler mirrors, I've had fun in snake eyes mirrors, but I'm also not gonna try and gaslight people into thinking that a significantly larger amount of strategies being rendered entirely irrelevant or unplayable is ACTUALLY super cool.
I unironically want a custom "TOSS 2" Format where like 8 of the main decks used in that Format(The TOSS quartet, the 2 main Pendulum decks, Altergeist and Phantom Knights) get to make use of new cards/support that have come out since then. It's a neat mix of decks that share some properties but all have unique tools at their disposal too.
I actually kinda want to see a pre-January banlist format with a custom banlist. A lot of people feel like the top decks were fine with a ton of diversity, so people expected an unban list with some small consistency hits.
IMO a good format is like 4 top decks, usually that gives enough room for rouge but also makes it clear things you can plan for. It also usually has a good variety play styles and allows for the as you mentioned learning more about a deck.
Post AGOV pre January banlist. Also MBT talked about it during the end of his video on the next retro format and he loved it along with many of the people in the comments There was tons of variety in the format with 10+ meta decks and almost none of them felt unbeatable except maybe infernoble. Even a deck like Abyss Actors topped a regional how could I not like that?
@@BreadBoyWeeb Nah it did still have competition between it, purrely and R-ACE Diabellestar with the other metas close behind. Not sure about how Fire Kings were doing though compared to it but it was creeping up the meta slowly pre banlist
I have always agreed with the format that is like three of four best decks is the most interesting, it's why I do really like TOSS and branded/swordsoul. I also liked the Virtual world format whatever that is called, cause I like VW.
Best formats in "modern" times was toss july 2019 and october 2019. Either one of those was pretty fun. 2nd best was probably pre POTE format. The format right before POTE I think is what you said in your video was your favorite. 3rd best was POTE - pre MAMA
Mystic Mine becoming a real intolerable problem disqualifies most of 2022 for me. All of the formats you listed are great...minus that stupid fucking field spell.
The 2 weeks of Dabl pre Mama was peak yugioh, the best decks were strong and utterly manageable, and the Tear mirror was extremely skillful at the time due to the introduction of Bystials creating consistent turn 0 gamestates
I'd be ok with a less diverse format as long as the gap between meta and non meta isnt astronomically large. Also I cant wait for the generic boss monster video because that's actually something i disagree with being necessarily bad and yes I'm talking about Barrone and Savage and not stardust dragon and RDA (love those two though)
@@randombadchannel8700 True Barrone though I guess I can't convince on that lmao. I do think some generic boss monsters shouldn't exist though like Appolousa. I don't think any link monsters should be having negates as interruption unless if it's extremely specific like Underworld
@@Honest_Mids_MasherHonestly I like the idea of Apollousa, but she shouldn't have generic materials, a negate that you can increase the number of uses if you increase the attack points is just super interesting game design, and yes I'm waiting a deck that can abuse Apollousa like that for the memes, the only one I can think is Pendulum Magicians when Harmonizing is on scale, as her scale effect is an attack boost of 100*the number of face-up Pendulum monsters on your Extra Deck. I originally disliked Baronne but It's honestly grown on me, though she does need as I said for Apollousa she needs a harder summoning condition, I think either needing a wind non-tuner or tuner would make it more interesting. Savage I just don't like, there's no reason I just personally don't like savage, I love Dragite but I can't like Savage. But honestly I think it's honestly more interesting if we take away Baronne and/or Savage to make so players play other Synchro monsters that does a function similar to it like Crystal Wing, the F.A. Spell negate and a lot of other synchros that can (Quick Effect): negate.
@@asafesseidonsapphire Yeah that's what I meant to say. Generic link monsters are way easier to summon and to get a generic link monster that negates multiple times is way too much. Barrone I'm ok with being generic tbh if all boss monsters weren't generic a lot of decks would have way weaker endboards and that does include a lot of rogue decks heck Manaddium would cease to even be a part of the meta lmao. Crystal Wing is way harder for every deck to summon so it's not really generic per say and Dawn Dragster people do actually play
@@yesohxdlol640mine saw barely any play during 2019, and even when it was played it didn't really see success. People didn't really figure out how to best use the card until 2020.
@@heftylad still. True King of all calamitys, true draco, collosus lock and more stupid fucking locks during that time. The Format is only loved because the Formats before that were Firewall ftks.
Tear 0 was my reintroduction to Yugioh after about 6-7 years and I absolutely adored it. I’m a chess player, so keeping track of change and quickly running through possible scenarios made me super happy.
everyone romanticizes toss format but i guarantee you if we went back and played that format and gave it the amount of attention that we have for things like goat and edison, we'd enjoy it nowhere near as much. remember how prevalent mystic mine was by the time it got banned? i feel like toss revisited would deteriorate into way more mystic mine bs than we actually saw during the format. for me, the best post-link format was EXFO - so YCS bochum 2018 would be an example. it's a shame flod and battles of legend had to come and completely eviscerate what was a fun and healthy format
@@BreadBoyWeeb it was very diverse with a wide range of what those decks did. We had zefra and pendulum magician making use of the newly released electrumite. Mekk knight invoked and shaddoll dinos for strategies that can be built to go swcond. True Draco and paleo for the backrow lovers, and then the event ended up being won by world chalice of all things
EXFO was so good man. I remember when legendary collection kaiba also came out at the time so it reprinted all the hand traps. There was also people experimenting with whatever remained of spyral, ppl who were still on Burning Abyss, Towers just got unbanned so in my area there was Qli enjoyers and ppl experimenting with the fairy and lair structure decks that came out. Lair infernoids and lair predaplanets were funny. Oh and FA was there too
@@idkdontask7142 couldn’t agree more. People always think banlists kill formats, but yugioh history is littered with formats that were sweet and then were ruined by an upcoming product. Edison is a perfect example of that. More recently we had POTE/DABL format ruined by MAMA giving us the ishizu cards. EXFO was the same with FLOD. Tengu Plant in 2011 got slaughtered by the 2012 banlist, but in truth the deck was already hurting so hard by then because of PHSW. Lots of great formats ruined by OP sets that nuked them instead of banlists doing so
@@danlay638 exactly. Another example more recently is also AGOV making a good format less affordable or PHNI killing an unexplored metagame. Banlists can kill good formats if you think about it because while AGOV was overly expensive at least it was fun until the banlist came and killed all the decks. Yugioh releases too many products and banlists are too frequent, if card design was good there would be no need for frequent banlists, and good card design cant be made when you're making 10 products a year of which all have to be meta shifting or they dont sell. Whenever there is a healthy format like tengu plant or AGOV Konami is there to release a massive slaughter list while when the meta is on fire like during the full power Kashtira days they will release a banlist with like 4 hits all being consistency. Yugioh players have this expectation of that the meta needs to change every 2-4 months or "it gets stale" but if the game is in a good state then I dont see why it cant last for long. You cant solve a metagame or create good players if formats last for 2-4 months.
for me the keyword is balance...diverse format does not mean it is a balanced format,but a Tier 0 or a 3-deck format mostly always is unbalanced,because otherwise it would not exist in the first place... So my ideal format would be where power gap is relatively low between decks,almost any deck can win and there are no or very few autowin conditions...not sure if we ever had anything like this post-2014...2023 format post-Ariseheart ban was pretty close,but not quite...
What do you think of alternative formats? I'm not just talking about GOAT or Edisson but formats created by the community like Domain. Do you think one or two Konami-supported formats could help the game?
I’ve never played a community made alt format, I think there is a ton of potential in making small events with combinations of cards we have never seen before
The idea of that format is to bring Commander to YuGiOH. 100 cards, a single copy per card and a "Commander" that can be summoned at any time.@@valutaatoaofunknownelement197
I really like the ZEXAL or XYZ era (2011-2014) where every single deck is pretty much at the same power level with the only outlier being Dragon Ruler. Take Dino Rabbit and Agent for example, both decks were popular in 2011 and still topped in late 2013, meaning that both of them can compete against new contenders such as Mermail or Fire Fist. Every deck in that era felt like they had a similar power level (again, except Dragon Ruler).
Metalfoes/ABC/Paleo format is the greatest format of all time, and my favorite decks there aren’t even those three, it’s stuff like toad hero, dark synchro and metalfoes yang zing, extremely fun decks to play that can compete with the best decks because the best decks in this format focus more on consistency and grind game than high ceiling endboards. P.S. metalfoes is way cooler (to play and to play against) than any of the 4 decks in TOSS
There's too much baggage for the modern format to be really considered good at the time or in hindsight. Past formats are interesting for what they don't have more than what they do have. HAT might be great because it has three Soul Charge, but that's only good because it doesn't have a ton of defensive end board pieces in the ED. Edison is great because the banlist is tight and every deck is either missing power staples or cards that broke the decks before or after. The ten thousand card pileup of modern Yugioh makes it impossible for most people to see the differences between the card pool of 2023 and the card pool of 2024. Once you get past a certain point your eyes glaze over trying to spot the effective differences outside of newer archetypes having power creep on their side.
I haven't played yugioh on a level where formats mattered much, until Master Duel. Before that it was all casual fun with friends, we'd both pick up a structure deck and duel, so My intro to "real yugioh" was infinite negate drytron. That being said. My favorite format since Master Duels release has got to be Tearlament, that deck was so fun and there were so many different ways to play it it was amazing. The most boring format is right now. If you don't play snake you're hand trapped into oblivion and if you do play snake you have a really stale mirror match, its not good or bad, its just bland like unseasoned chicken. The most annoying time of Master Duel was when Konami was on a relentless crusade to provide branded with support constantly. I was so sick of seeing branded get supported.
edison format was peak. the constant back and forth while both players figure out how to setup their boss monsters while utilizing battle traps and backrow removal. it incorporated all forms of yugioh playstyles instead of the current format that is just: i go first and summon a fuck ton of negate monsters while also negating my opponents outs with the anti outs that were made to counter it.
It does affect a lot of people at the local level. It only take one or two players coming in worth broken decks to scoop up all the prizes and knock people out. Then they'll make the rounds since different stores host tournaments on different days of the week.
Played every single format post DUEA except any of the monarch formats. In all that time, the post AGOV pre banlist format with tear, rescue ace, unchained, and purrely could be one the best ones in 9 years
Id say TOSS is the best, but I think an underrated format was early Secret Slayers format. Cool combo deck in Adamancipator, cool control deck in Eldlich, only two real tier 1 decks so rogue decks could pick good side options. Synchro eldlich was also pretty funny, especially when people were playing Gizmek Yuka targetting Halq to summon the water barrier statue lmao
Absolutely loved TOSS. some people didnt like it for some reason. Probably because ouf of FOUR top tier decks, they didnt like any of them. I thought having 4 bearly equal power decks was amazing. All with unique playstyles too. There was some great rogue strategies too like altergeist, and lunalight.
Not talked about a lot, but Tri-brigade Zoo format was a really good modern Yu-Gi-Oh format to me. There was a good amount of Diversity in the decks being played ranging from combo, control, and mid-range. Alot of the decks being played didn't feel like they were ending on the same generic end board. Trap cards like Crackdown, Ice Dragon Prison and Torental Tribute were viable option to play. VFD was banned two formats prior before Tri-brigade Zoo format. And it's before Tri-brigade got access to Lyrliusc and could abuse the link 3 simorgh and the wind barrier statue. So there were less floodgate monster who end your turn. I also think any format post DUNE to pre jan 1st 2024 banlist was a good modern Yu-Gi-Oh format.
For me, it was the short time period between Legendary Duelist: Duels from the Deep and the release of Power of the Elements (approximately a month and a half) the format was extremely versatile and fun. And also really really cheep. There wasn't any $50-$150 staples you needed. And the deck cores were like $30-$100. It's a shame Konami released Power of the Elements and led us into an era with 4 T0 decks back to back to back and only a slight moment to breath between Kash and Snake Eye.
I started in August of 2019, and have played Thunder since, its such a bummer every other Toss deck got its toys back but Konami tcg insists on keeping Colossus locked up.
I started playing in Secret Slayers format, so I have Nostalgia for that and I LOVE big combo boards and games, I liked Branded and Swordsoul format, Pre-Pote, right after tear, Kashmir, SHS Purrely format, right before Diabellstar came out, right before Phantom Nightmare came out. For formats before I started, Toss is great, Edison, Most of pre-Rulers Zexal and so many more, Blazing Vortez where Guru was great, I can keep naming great formats Yugioh is a great game, it's why people play it. But every now and again and we a bad format. It's even worse because it's hard to please high Level players and low-level players. Low level players (like 90% of players) like diverse formats with fun, cheap decks while high-level players (such as big content creators) want tier 0 decks, that don't care about cost, and want the decks to punish you if you make a single mistake. It's weird how many people care what top-level players like Pak or Joshua Schmidt think about a format when they make up the top 0.0001% of players, the 90% can agree on cheap, fun, diverse formats.
A good meta iq were there's around 5 decks on top, with varying playatyles, mainly midrange decks. Not only fot YGO, but any card games really. Snakes is obly tier 0 un TCG, but is getting there in Master Duel, but I think this can be kinda silved when the other modern decks come as well. Wa may get some hits before that happens, I only hope is still remains strong and competitive after that.
i really do think that the YCS bologna meta at the end of last year was peak yugioh. So many decks that were all very skillful and handtraps werent too dominant
My ideal format is one where the amount of "top" decks is small BUT skilled pilots can still find success even at high levels with Rogue. POTE kind of felt that way; while Spright and Tearlament were far and away better than the rest, every other major event was won by rogue. Rikka won Euros, Exosister won Niagara, Mine Burn won Rio while the runner up was Mathmech @Ignister.
Erly link was really fun. Before Missus Radiant cam out. If this didn't have both of its link Arrows pointing down the game would have been good for a little bit longer.
Bologna Format, it was the first time since I started playing in 2021 where I was bummed out that we had to get a banlist update. Pre-AGOV was also really good, but I do think Bologna will still be just as fun to go back to (especially once all the cards have been reprinted into oblivion).
AGOV format before the Fire King Structure Deck. No definitive best deck, a mass variety of good decks, the only real problem is S:P's price. You don't lose by losing the die roll and going second. Branded Swordsoul and Tear Zero are also close seconds because the ones I've mentioned are a lot more skill intensive and, for the most part, not too expensive to pick up and play.
I’m just here to respect playing heaven Also I guess I’d pick darkwing blast format, cause it didn’t exist for long enough so it has mystique to it. Also I liked the decks in that format
I know I'm late, but I think 3 decks is still a little too little to appeal to both sides. Imo I think 4-5 deck metas are more ideal to general audiences since there will be plenty of variety of decks, but it isn't so wide that you cannot prepare for every tier 1-2 strat out there. Of course, I think it's even better when the power level of said top decks is not too high as to allow people to bring rogue decks in the format and not get stomped. I think HAT format is a great example of that. There's around 4-5 decks considered tier 1 atm but those decks aren't too powerful as to prevent tier 2 or rogue decks from competing. In fact, they can go toe to toe with the top tiers just fine. They'll be at a disadvantage, but it's not so overwhelming of one. It creates a super diverse format that's exciting at pretty much any level of play! Of course that would require Konami to stop powercreeping the game into another tier 0 format every 6 months and we know they are incapable of that
I always prefer diverse formats in whatever card game I play. I like being able to find a boss I like, figure out what would make them overpower everyone else using cards no one expected, and then destroying everyone because I already planned for "the meta". If the top players really are top players, then it shouldn't matter if someone comes in with older cards. If they're top players, they'll win anyway. If they can't beat the unexpected, then they're not top players, they're just meta followers.
I have not been playing yugioh long enough for me to know the answer to this question non objectively but I am smart enough to know questions like these have no real answers so I feel like it’s just going to be a bunch of nerds (myself included) arguing about which stage of paper slamming down on mats was our favorite.
TOSS was peak. So many competitive and rogue decks. I enjoyed all of 2019 because of it, although yez the Rongobongo and Azathoth locks at the beginning of the year were annoying. That being said TOSS was incredibly balanced and diverse, the toolbox for creating unique decks was huge
POTE was my favorite format ever! I had some much potential for development. You had two decks clearly better, and 5-6 others very interesting, but inferior. But a month passes and another powercreep set releases and we are in a new format, again. We need time to appreciate a meta! Good or bad, needs to be developed. Unchained is another example, the deck theory was evolving so much, from almost full engine to play around nib in YCS São Paulo to making Apollousa, being more consistent and diverse. When we have time as a community to study, test and develop a deck and decks, the format even if it is tight at the top, becomes diverse by itself. Some many issues with yugioh, that get too focused on this shitty we gonna have a yugi burnout... And i against tier 0 because they always become super expensive, thats my number reason. But if we gonna have a tier 0, at least make like Tear Ishizu, engine, not this shitty top deck war we are right now. Tearlaments was the perfect example of a good tier 0, but even then we had some garbage like dweller and instant fusion (instant win), but i was ok with. And the crazy it's sounds it had is own diversity. Like Paulo from Brasil played 9 even 12 Bystials, others choose not to play full ishizu too not mill for your opponent, others play mourner/veiler/imperm. And even being the best deck ever printed in my opinion, spright had a chance to win, Floowandereeze had a chance, a great spright player would beat a average tear player most of the time. Anyway, peace ✌🏽
One nitpick I have is that Jeff Jones' victory doesn't show an issue with a diverse format, it was more an issue of the matchup he got (tearlament) having very little room for non engine. Decks with little or no non engine get slaughtered by FTK decks.
This is gonna be a long one but for me I think yu-gi-oh as a whole was at it's best in 2016. We had dsod bringing back old fans to the their childhood. So many different decks being played abc, pendulum magicians, monarch, blue eyes, dark magician, ddd, blackwings, phantom knights, darklord, ritual beast, metalfoes, majespecter, true draco, lunalight, shiranui, nekroz and that's just me remembering off the top of my head. It felt like there was so much variety and fun to the game so many different archetypes would top ycs and blue eyes won worlds, hand traps weren't as prevalent as they are now no 20 minute boards. It just seemed to me could we ever get anything better than this time as a Yu-gi-oh fan? Not that I don't like stuff love some of the new stuff like cyberse, sky striker and branded to name a few but everything back then just seemed like the culmination of this game we've been playing for so long and it was fun to me at least don't know if anyone else agrees.
My favorite formats are the more diverse ones. As much as I understand that professional players like tighter formats, I disagree that a tight format makes play more skill-based. In theory, the best players with the best decks are the ones who can overcome the most opponents, not the ones who can beat the same 1-2 decks over and over again. I think that professional players often want Yugioh to be more like chess, where skill equates to countering a limited and known set of potential outcomes. I believe that true Yugioh skill is being able to manage unknown potential outcomes by resilient deckbuilding.
I was about to call the format md had right before mbt Albion released the best but honestly it was hard carried by VS being the best deck. It's still the most fun I had with yugioh in my time playing but that's mainly because I genuinely believe Vanqiush Soul is peak yugioh.
I think it's better to cut off before Synchro Storm since Tri-Lyrilusc was out of control for like a week. Summer 2021 was an all time great though, I agree with you on that. Lots of good cheap decks.
Can't wait for your boss monster vid either. Quite frankly, I think generic omni negate monsters are in the top 3 worst things to ever happen to the game, as they've enabled the turn 1 negate 6 screw off boards for multiple years now. Without them, like all combo decks become the less toxic tempo decks that other games have.
POTE was pretty cool with just danger tear Spright exo mathmech, but I’m pretty confident if we labbed out that format for a year it would devolve into just playing tear mostly with some exo as an anti meta
The best format is taking a shot whenever your card gets negated. But +1 on affordability in TCG and MD. I hate the though of having to use so much dust just for snake-eyes. And a grand for one deck? Glad I don't play paper.
At the time of writing, I haven't played any format from the Arc-V era and onwards (besides the current format from February-March last year to today), so I can't say for sure which format is the best. I hear TOSS is held in quite high regard, though.
i greatly prefer diverse formats, but man tear format was so fun, i just think tear is such a fun deck lmao, its like gambling but you win every time, ie you just mill and hit names almost guaranteed, yes i have a gambling addiction.
Tight formats are expensive, case in point today this format, the only deck which wont set you back upwards of 150$ is floowandereeze, I would be open to tighter formats if the TCG didnt have the rarity issue we have right now. But as it stands, a diverse format is more beneficial to poorer players like myself, maybe one day we can get an OCG rarity system.
I loved the purely meta in master duel. purely was tier 1 Kashtira was tier 2 and could easily defeat labyrinth Labyrinth was tier 2 and could easily defeat branded branded was tier 2 and could easily defeat Kashtira and all these 3 decks had a good chance to win against purely.
Best format it’s primal origin /H.A.T format you could play anything deck with 3 soul charge and the duelist alliance format -the whole year was fun you never were out of a game .
Pre-AGOV was perfect. I had tons of fun at locals playing against various decks, every day was different. S:P and TY-PHON release, alongside the Wanted engine, just led to strategies being harder to reach by price, and by the time bonfire and Transaction Rollback came, Labrynth had a short tier 1 burst, and then PHNI came and made it tier 0. Pre-AGOV was just balanced, with tons of decks all being at very similar power levels, and no super-high price staples (if you count Rarity collection, which was just reprints).
Branded format and the Post-Ariseheart, Pre-AGOV format TOSS format is only well loved as much as it is because it was the only good format throughout the entirety of Master Rule 4
Ideally, yugioh should be archetype vs archetype without the floodgates and generic boss monsters. Yuigoh also shouldn't be nearly as expensive because Konami isn't starving for money.
I think formats like tear should probably not exist. A deck being so overbearing that it makes one option the only entirely viable one because it adds a game warping effect just feels bad. Kashtira locking out all zones, tear milling half the deck, arise heart banishing all cards. It just really narrows the actual expression of the game. You're right, though, it makes sense that Konami makes the representatives pay more to stay relevant
A way to fix this is to have a community ban list per tournament. Ohh final 4 matches in the tournament, players get to vote to ban certain cards that are in the tournament. Players vote for 10 but only 3 get actual ban. That way there is no way of knowing who wins
I miss pre nekroz duelist alliance format was fast but not too fast you can otk but it commonly goes to turn 4 and 5. Just why was maxx c still legal with vanities lmao
Tbf in defense of Jeff’s wins with Exodia at YCS. He went 4-3 that day I believe and I don’t think people knew how to counter the deck. If his feature match opponent hit Selene with imperm that would’ve been a wrench in his strategy
Personally my favorite format was the duelist nexus to quarter century area. I had so much fun in this area as it felt like you had multiple decks to play, Age of Overlord really for me started the current format which I’m not a fan off, I hate Tier0 and leads to hardly any creativity. Edit: I also loved how no cards were really over a hundred dollars at that time, say Triple tactics thrust but overall a really great time that I miss
I just don’t get why anyone would want the game to be made for a very small percentage of players (the highly competitive players) making the game the best it can be for budget,casual and semi competitive as these are the vast majority of the player base so a diverse format just makes the most sense imo
What do you guys think of the voice over on this one? I messed around a bit in audacity and I know the P sounds came off weird but that can be fixed easily I was just dumb. Thank you all for watching
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mate you could use an unplugged toaster and it'd be fine. The audio is perfectly good.
I think **modern ygo can be so much fun if every deck is a sort of midrange decks** like Branded, Sky striker or Swordsoul deck that have a short combo and let both opponents play the game with a decent amount of interactions.
**The best yugioh gameplay I've ever seen was in March 2023 MCS finals** where 2 Branded Despia player fight each other in 10+ turns back an forth duel , better player wins through better understanding, strategy, skill and a bit of luck.
That's what yugioh is all about, not locking out your opponent turn one and calling it a day. I hate those 10 min. "competitive" videos where no one can do anything against their opponent's boards and it simply comes down to rock, paper, scissors.
Fuck floodgates, fuck FTKs, fuck combo deck and fuck just draw the out™ endboards, they're all against the spirit of playing a game. A couple back/forth duel of non-game-ending interruptions with some follow-up is where it's at.
I imagine from an outsiders perspective looking in, with Tear Mirrors having mills that trigger chain links in the double digits, everyone's grave messily piled on the board, and even spectators forgetting who's turn it was, it probably was not a great look.
I can argue for outsiders pretty much any format isn’t gonna be able to follow the pace of a modern combo deck, it’s not a year problem more than the general game itself
Seeing as it doesn't really seem to be the case now I'd say it's definitely a Tear issue.
Not to say that these problems are EXCLUSIVE to Tearlament, but to act like the height of Tearlaments was normal by YuGiOh standards doesn't reflect reality.
Other things can do what Tearlaments can do, but Tearlaments is not normal. That's like saying getting stabbed in an alley is normal because people have medical injections regularly and are fine.
These things are the same in every way except the ways that actually matter.
Edison is thee best but I think pre AGOV format was amazing, most decks were affordable and nothing was too overwhelming.
Edison is so boring and comes across as cope.
@@darknessnaxxion what?
@@ehhhhh491 It's not that good of a format.
@@darknessnaxxion compared to what tho?
@@ehhhhh491 In general. Here’s the thing with Edison, it’s made out to be a very free format - and a common reason people play it is because you’re not ‘forced’ to play hand traps, or blow out cards and use only the best cards. Besides Crystia Spam, Blackwing (without a doubt the best deck of that format), and maybe Frog Monarch, not only is the special mechanic, Synchro dead in the water, tribute summon Caius is literally the move in that format. As well, you all actually end up playing a lot of hand traps that instead of stopping your opponent stalls the game … woo!? It’s not all bad, it’s slow enough for bad decks to have a small chance, but the default Edison is the best or best of Yu-Gi-Oh! Is incorrect. It’s not skill based but really patient based (which can be a skill of itself, to be honest) but it hardly matters when your opponent uses their third battle faded and you over extended and it’s game one still and 5 minutes on the clock.
If it was passed as fine, you know, whatever but the best format? No. I know that’s not it. I just know it’s nostalgia and copium for the modern game - and I love old and new Yugioh so I really can dig slower formats, but to say it’s great is a bit of a stretch.
TOSS format was my favorite
For me, the best modern format is the format that existed between the September 2023 banlist and before age of overlord came out, it was one of the most diverse formats we had in a while and the top decks weren't oppressive and the only toxic strategy that existed in this format is the calamity lock and the gimmick puppet lock, but I feel like that it could be the next time wizard format to gain some traction in a year or two and i personally wouldn't mind going back to this format to explore it some more
This is a really good one too
Ay my man 👋
Probably named it the Melee format due to that one meme picture of smash melee roster with all the viable deck lmao /s
Honestly works too. The format between pre and post AGOV before the January banlist was awesome.
It's soo hard to choose b/w the two
TOSS format
a literal royal rumble with 4 best decks with their own variations and spice > 1-2 decks that literally do the same every time
TOSS was just the least worst format in all the formats around it.
@papernes that is true but it was still a good format in arguably the worst Era of yugioh.
Toss was when i first played the game.
And i played Endymion.
I just noticed i was way more welcoming to the summoning mechanics because I've never heard of Yu-Gi-Oh before, but i quit adore pendulums, hell , it's are my second favorite summoning mechanic behind synchro, i even love the concept of link monsters lol
Same, but I started with Pendulum Magicians, but it was because of Arc-V, It was the first Yu-Gi-Oh anime that I watched and I totally loved it, then I started playing Duel Links a bit before XYZs came to the game, specifically in the DSOD event, then started playing my loved Pendulum Magicians when Master Duel came out, using a optimized 3 structure deck deck list, that I continue to improve to this day with Extra Deck monsters and Handtraps.
My top picks, in the following order, would be Speedroid, Raidraptor and Odd-Eyes. Funny enough, I'm not usually partial to Xyz, I just very specifically like the Raidraptor-Phantom Knights-Xyz Dragon deck. Synchro and pendulum are absolutely my jam though.
@@gyppygirl2021 heavy on arc-v i see.
You are a total man of culture
@@yuseifudo6075 It's my favorite, yes. Probably obvious :p
TOSS is in my opinion the best Format since 2015.
Tier 0 formats are always hell. Even tear sucked ass
Yea, only tear enjoyer would enjoy that format
@@arildaffa9352I don't see why Tear players had such a hard time grasping that. People have fun in lots of Tier 0 mirror matches, people STILL go back and play Dragon Ruler mirrors, I've had fun in snake eyes mirrors, but I'm also not gonna try and gaslight people into thinking that a significantly larger amount of strategies being rendered entirely irrelevant or unplayable is ACTUALLY super cool.
@@pptemplar5840dragon rulers were never Tier 0
Ravine ruler was definitely tier 0
The Yoshis crafted world music in the background is so underrated
I unironically want a custom "TOSS 2" Format where like 8 of the main decks used in that Format(The TOSS quartet, the 2 main Pendulum decks, Altergeist and Phantom Knights) get to make use of new cards/support that have come out since then. It's a neat mix of decks that share some properties but all have unique tools at their disposal too.
I actually kinda want to see a pre-January banlist format with a custom banlist. A lot of people feel like the top decks were fine with a ton of diversity, so people expected an unban list with some small consistency hits.
IMO a good format is like 4 top decks, usually that gives enough room for rouge but also makes it clear things you can plan for. It also usually has a good variety play styles and allows for the as you mentioned learning more about a deck.
Post AGOV pre January banlist. Also MBT talked about it during the end of his video on the next retro format and he loved it along with many of the people in the comments
There was tons of variety in the format with 10+ meta decks and almost none of them felt unbeatable except maybe infernoble. Even a deck like Abyss Actors topped a regional how could I not like that?
I thought unchained was the clear best deck at the time? Like others were still represented but unchained was top…. Dog no pun intended
@@BreadBoyWeeb Nah it did still have competition between it, purrely and R-ACE Diabellestar with the other metas close behind. Not sure about how Fire Kings were doing though compared to it but it was creeping up the meta slowly pre banlist
@@BreadBoyWeebIt was probably the best overall but R-ACE kept trading wins with it.
I have always agreed with the format that is like three of four best decks is the most interesting, it's why I do really like TOSS and branded/swordsoul.
I also liked the Virtual world format whatever that is called, cause I like VW.
Best formats in "modern" times was toss july 2019 and october 2019. Either one of those was pretty fun.
2nd best was probably pre POTE format. The format right before POTE I think is what you said in your video was your favorite.
3rd best was POTE - pre MAMA
Mystic Mine becoming a real intolerable problem disqualifies most of 2022 for me. All of the formats you listed are great...minus that stupid fucking field spell.
The 2 weeks of Dabl pre Mama was peak yugioh, the best decks were strong and utterly manageable, and the Tear mirror was extremely skillful at the time due to the introduction of Bystials creating consistent turn 0 gamestates
I'd be ok with a less diverse format as long as the gap between meta and non meta isnt astronomically large.
Also I cant wait for the generic boss monster video because that's actually something i disagree with being necessarily bad and yes I'm talking about Barrone and Savage and not stardust dragon and RDA (love those two though)
Savage is fine honestly since he requires some set up.
@@randombadchannel8700 True Barrone though I guess I can't convince on that lmao. I do think some generic boss monsters shouldn't exist though like Appolousa. I don't think any link monsters should be having negates as interruption unless if it's extremely specific like Underworld
@@Honest_Mids_MasherHonestly I like the idea of Apollousa, but she shouldn't have generic materials, a negate that you can increase the number of uses if you increase the attack points is just super interesting game design, and yes I'm waiting a deck that can abuse Apollousa like that for the memes, the only one I can think is Pendulum Magicians when Harmonizing is on scale, as her scale effect is an attack boost of 100*the number of face-up Pendulum monsters on your Extra Deck.
I originally disliked Baronne but It's honestly grown on me, though she does need as I said for Apollousa she needs a harder summoning condition, I think either needing a wind non-tuner or tuner would make it more interesting.
Savage I just don't like, there's no reason I just personally don't like savage, I love Dragite but I can't like Savage.
But honestly I think it's honestly more interesting if we take away Baronne and/or Savage to make so players play other Synchro monsters that does a function similar to it like Crystal Wing, the F.A. Spell negate and a lot of other synchros that can (Quick Effect): negate.
@@asafesseidonsapphire Yeah that's what I meant to say. Generic link monsters are way easier to summon and to get a generic link monster that negates multiple times is way too much.
Barrone I'm ok with being generic tbh if all boss monsters weren't generic a lot of decks would have way weaker endboards and that does include a lot of rogue decks heck Manaddium would cease to even be a part of the meta lmao.
Crystal Wing is way harder for every deck to summon so it's not really generic per say and Dawn Dragster people do actually play
TOSS format was probably the best yugioh has ever been
Fr, all the top decks were fun and the power level wasn't that high so rogue decks were pretty fun
Hell no. All of you are so delusional. I mean alone the fact that mystic mine Was legal makes it worse than every Format After ban
@@yesohxdlol640mine saw barely any play during 2019, and even when it was played it didn't really see success. People didn't really figure out how to best use the card until 2020.
@@heftylad still. True King of all calamitys, true draco, collosus lock and more stupid fucking locks during that time. The Format is only loved because the Formats before that were Firewall ftks.
Ah yes, lossus pass. My favorite.
Tear 0 was my reintroduction to Yugioh after about 6-7 years and I absolutely adored it. I’m a chess player, so keeping track of change and quickly running through possible scenarios made me super happy.
Well said.
Ty GOAT, I get a lot of inspiration for my video structure from the originals doing it like you
everyone romanticizes toss format but i guarantee you if we went back and played that format and gave it the amount of attention that we have for things like goat and edison, we'd enjoy it nowhere near as much. remember how prevalent mystic mine was by the time it got banned? i feel like toss revisited would deteriorate into way more mystic mine bs than we actually saw during the format.
for me, the best post-link format was EXFO - so YCS bochum 2018 would be an example. it's a shame flod and battles of legend had to come and completely eviscerate what was a fun and healthy format
Idk if I’d agree with the TOSS take but what were the meta decks of that YCS?
@@BreadBoyWeeb it was very diverse with a wide range of what those decks did. We had zefra and pendulum magician making use of the newly released electrumite. Mekk knight invoked and shaddoll dinos for strategies that can be built to go swcond. True Draco and paleo for the backrow lovers, and then the event ended up being won by world chalice of all things
EXFO was so good man. I remember when legendary collection kaiba also came out at the time so it reprinted all the hand traps. There was also people experimenting with whatever remained of spyral, ppl who were still on Burning Abyss, Towers just got unbanned so in my area there was Qli enjoyers and ppl experimenting with the fairy and lair structure decks that came out. Lair infernoids and lair predaplanets were funny. Oh and FA was there too
@@idkdontask7142 couldn’t agree more. People always think banlists kill formats, but yugioh history is littered with formats that were sweet and then were ruined by an upcoming product. Edison is a perfect example of that. More recently we had POTE/DABL format ruined by MAMA giving us the ishizu cards. EXFO was the same with FLOD. Tengu Plant in 2011 got slaughtered by the 2012 banlist, but in truth the deck was already hurting so hard by then because of PHSW. Lots of great formats ruined by OP sets that nuked them instead of banlists doing so
@@danlay638 exactly. Another example more recently is also AGOV making a good format less affordable or PHNI killing an unexplored metagame.
Banlists can kill good formats if you think about it because while AGOV was overly expensive at least it was fun until the banlist came and killed all the decks. Yugioh releases too many products and banlists are too frequent, if card design was good there would be no need for frequent banlists, and good card design cant be made when you're making 10 products a year of which all have to be meta shifting or they dont sell.
Whenever there is a healthy format like tengu plant or AGOV Konami is there to release a massive slaughter list while when the meta is on fire like during the full power Kashtira days they will release a banlist with like 4 hits all being consistency.
Yugioh players have this expectation of that the meta needs to change every 2-4 months or "it gets stale" but if the game is in a good state then I dont see why it cant last for long. You cant solve a metagame or create good players if formats last for 2-4 months.
for me the keyword is balance...diverse format does not mean it is a balanced format,but a Tier 0 or a 3-deck format mostly always is unbalanced,because otherwise it would not exist in the first place...
So my ideal format would be where power gap is relatively low between decks,almost any deck can win and there are no or very few autowin conditions...not sure if we ever had anything like this post-2014...2023 format post-Ariseheart ban was pretty close,but not quite...
Tear Zero in Master Duel will always be my absolute favourite format. I would have probably enjoyed it in thr TCG, but money...
Not my favorite but I did have a great time
What do you think of alternative formats?
I'm not just talking about GOAT or Edisson but formats created by the community like Domain.
Do you think one or two Konami-supported formats could help the game?
What's the gimmick of Domain Format?
I myself have some experience with Garbo format.
I’ve never played a community made alt format, I think there is a ton of potential in making small events with combinations of cards we have never seen before
The idea of that format is to bring Commander to YuGiOH. 100 cards, a single copy per card and a "Commander" that can be summoned at any time.@@valutaatoaofunknownelement197
I really like the ZEXAL or XYZ era (2011-2014) where every single deck is pretty much at the same power level with the only outlier being Dragon Ruler. Take Dino Rabbit and Agent for example, both decks were popular in 2011 and still topped in late 2013, meaning that both of them can compete against new contenders such as Mermail or Fire Fist.
Every deck in that era felt like they had a similar power level (again, except Dragon Ruler).
This. Before dragon rulers, yeah.
Metalfoes/ABC/Paleo format is the greatest format of all time, and my favorite decks there aren’t even those three, it’s stuff like toad hero, dark synchro and metalfoes yang zing, extremely fun decks to play that can compete with the best decks because the best decks in this format focus more on consistency and grind game than high ceiling endboards.
P.S. metalfoes is way cooler (to play and to play against) than any of the 4 decks in TOSS
There's too much baggage for the modern format to be really considered good at the time or in hindsight. Past formats are interesting for what they don't have more than what they do have. HAT might be great because it has three Soul Charge, but that's only good because it doesn't have a ton of defensive end board pieces in the ED. Edison is great because the banlist is tight and every deck is either missing power staples or cards that broke the decks before or after. The ten thousand card pileup of modern Yugioh makes it impossible for most people to see the differences between the card pool of 2023 and the card pool of 2024. Once you get past a certain point your eyes glaze over trying to spot the effective differences outside of newer archetypes having power creep on their side.
After rejoining Yugioh at the start of last year, I have to say that Post-AGOV format was the most fun I'd had playing Yugioh in a long time.
Heaven is a vibe
Absolutely. Probably my favorite of the P4 soundtrack
2:55 This is such an unhinged response to the demand of a balance between going first and going second.
Ishizu Tear was an insane deck.
How expensive is snake eyes in the OCG?
I’m not sure the name of it but the super diverse format we JUST had would definitely be one of my top choices for best format
Post-Agov and before the Jan 1st list looked like so much fun, I came back to the game.
I haven't played yugioh on a level where formats mattered much, until Master Duel. Before that it was all casual fun with friends, we'd both pick up a structure deck and duel, so My intro to "real yugioh" was infinite negate drytron.
That being said. My favorite format since Master Duels release has got to be Tearlament, that deck was so fun and there were so many different ways to play it it was amazing.
The most boring format is right now. If you don't play snake you're hand trapped into oblivion and if you do play snake you have a really stale mirror match, its not good or bad, its just bland like unseasoned chicken.
The most annoying time of Master Duel was when Konami was on a relentless crusade to provide branded with support constantly. I was so sick of seeing branded get supported.
I set this card face down. I set two cards and end my turn.
I kinda enjoyed both tear format and when albaz strike came out.
My skill level terrible
Free time non existence
Game knowledge MST does Negate so uhhhh yea
The fact destruction doesn’t negate annoys the shit out of me
They should flip it so destroy negates and gage cards errated so they individually don’t
edison format was peak. the constant back and forth while both players figure out how to setup their boss monsters while utilizing battle traps and backrow removal. it incorporated all forms of yugioh playstyles instead of the current format that is just: i go first and summon a fuck ton of negate monsters while also negating my opponents outs with the anti outs that were made to counter it.
It does affect a lot of people at the local level. It only take one or two players coming in worth broken decks to scoop up all the prizes and knock people out. Then they'll make the rounds since different stores host tournaments on different days of the week.
This is how my locals died in Tear format.
Played every single format post DUEA except any of the monarch formats. In all that time, the post AGOV pre banlist format with tear, rescue ace, unchained, and purrely could be one the best ones in 9 years
The format we had with zombie Master was good.
The format with ABC before Zoodiac was decent as well
Id say TOSS is the best, but I think an underrated format was early Secret Slayers format. Cool combo deck in Adamancipator, cool control deck in Eldlich, only two real tier 1 decks so rogue decks could pick good side options. Synchro eldlich was also pretty funny, especially when people were playing Gizmek Yuka targetting Halq to summon the water barrier statue lmao
Absolutely loved TOSS. some people didnt like it for some reason. Probably because ouf of FOUR top tier decks, they didnt like any of them. I thought having 4 bearly equal power decks was amazing. All with unique playstyles too. There was some great rogue strategies too like altergeist, and lunalight.
Not talked about a lot, but Tri-brigade Zoo format was a really good modern Yu-Gi-Oh format to me. There was a good amount of Diversity in the decks being played ranging from combo, control, and mid-range. Alot of the decks being played didn't feel like they were ending on the same generic end board. Trap cards like Crackdown, Ice Dragon Prison and Torental Tribute were viable option to play. VFD was banned two formats prior before Tri-brigade Zoo format. And it's before Tri-brigade got access to Lyrliusc and could abuse the link 3 simorgh and the wind barrier statue. So there were less floodgate monster who end your turn.
I also think any format post DUNE to pre jan 1st 2024 banlist was a good modern Yu-Gi-Oh format.
I also really enjoyed SS and Branded format before Bystials was released. TOSS though is definitely the best for me since it got me my first top.
5:13 being meguca is suffering
Post-DUEA, its gotta be 2016 PK Fire format, 2019 TOSS format, and 2023 Overlord format
A format with 4 or 5 decks being meta and the viable strategies constantly keep changing would be my dream
For me, it was the short time period between Legendary Duelist: Duels from the Deep and the release of Power of the Elements (approximately a month and a half) the format was extremely versatile and fun. And also really really cheep. There wasn't any $50-$150 staples you needed. And the deck cores were like $30-$100.
It's a shame Konami released Power of the Elements and led us into an era with 4 T0 decks back to back to back and only a slight moment to breath between Kash and Snake Eye.
I started in August of 2019, and have played Thunder since, its such a bummer every other Toss deck got its toys back but Konami tcg insists on keeping Colossus locked up.
I started playing in Secret Slayers format, so I have Nostalgia for that and I LOVE big combo boards and games, I liked Branded and Swordsoul format, Pre-Pote, right after tear, Kashmir, SHS Purrely format, right before Diabellstar came out, right before Phantom Nightmare came out.
For formats before I started, Toss is great, Edison, Most of pre-Rulers Zexal and so many more, Blazing Vortez where Guru was great, I can keep naming great formats
Yugioh is a great game, it's why people play it. But every now and again and we a bad format. It's even worse because it's hard to please high Level players and low-level players. Low level players (like 90% of players) like diverse formats with fun, cheap decks while high-level players (such as big content creators) want tier 0 decks, that don't care about cost, and want the decks to punish you if you make a single mistake.
It's weird how many people care what top-level players like Pak or Joshua Schmidt think about a format when they make up the top 0.0001% of players, the 90% can agree on cheap, fun, diverse formats.
A good meta iq were there's around 5 decks on top, with varying playatyles, mainly midrange decks. Not only fot YGO, but any card games really.
Snakes is obly tier 0 un TCG, but is getting there in Master Duel, but I think this can be kinda silved when the other modern decks come as well.
Wa may get some hits before that happens, I only hope is still remains strong and competitive after that.
i really do think that the YCS bologna meta at the end of last year was peak yugioh. So many decks that were all very skillful and handtraps werent too dominant
My ideal format is one where the amount of "top" decks is small BUT skilled pilots can still find success even at high levels with Rogue. POTE kind of felt that way; while Spright and Tearlament were far and away better than the rest, every other major event was won by rogue. Rikka won Euros, Exosister won Niagara, Mine Burn won Rio while the runner up was Mathmech @Ignister.
Erly link was really fun. Before Missus Radiant cam out. If this didn't have both of its link Arrows pointing down the game would have been good for a little bit longer.
Plant Synchro Format was my favorite. Not too many hand traps, dangerous synchro combos.
Bologna Format, it was the first time since I started playing in 2021 where I was bummed out that we had to get a banlist update.
Pre-AGOV was also really good, but I do think Bologna will still be just as fun to go back to (especially once all the cards have been reprinted into oblivion).
Hell yeah!
AGOV format before the Fire King Structure Deck. No definitive best deck, a mass variety of good decks, the only real problem is S:P's price. You don't lose by losing the die roll and going second. Branded Swordsoul and Tear Zero are also close seconds because the ones I've mentioned are a lot more skill intensive and, for the most part, not too expensive to pick up and play.
I’m just here to respect playing heaven
Also I guess I’d pick darkwing blast format, cause it didn’t exist for long enough so it has mystique to it. Also I liked the decks in that format
I know I'm late, but I think 3 decks is still a little too little to appeal to both sides. Imo I think 4-5 deck metas are more ideal to general audiences since there will be plenty of variety of decks, but it isn't so wide that you cannot prepare for every tier 1-2 strat out there. Of course, I think it's even better when the power level of said top decks is not too high as to allow people to bring rogue decks in the format and not get stomped.
I think HAT format is a great example of that. There's around 4-5 decks considered tier 1 atm but those decks aren't too powerful as to prevent tier 2 or rogue decks from competing. In fact, they can go toe to toe with the top tiers just fine. They'll be at a disadvantage, but it's not so overwhelming of one. It creates a super diverse format that's exciting at pretty much any level of play!
Of course that would require Konami to stop powercreeping the game into another tier 0 format every 6 months and we know they are incapable of that
I always prefer diverse formats in whatever card game I play. I like being able to find a boss I like, figure out what would make them overpower everyone else using cards no one expected, and then destroying everyone because I already planned for "the meta". If the top players really are top players, then it shouldn't matter if someone comes in with older cards. If they're top players, they'll win anyway. If they can't beat the unexpected, then they're not top players, they're just meta followers.
The Best Format: Playing ygo without generic boss monsters and also without any of those OP and generic cards of course! 😊
I have not been playing yugioh long enough for me to know the answer to this question non objectively but I am smart enough to know questions like these have no real answers so I feel like it’s just going to be a bunch of nerds (myself included) arguing about which stage of paper slamming down on mats was our favorite.
TOSS was peak. So many competitive and rogue decks. I enjoyed all of 2019 because of it, although yez the Rongobongo and Azathoth locks at the beginning of the year were annoying. That being said TOSS was incredibly balanced and diverse, the toolbox for creating unique decks was huge
IMO, Vegas 2014 format was the most balanced the yugioh metagame ever felt like.
POTE was my favorite format ever!
I had some much potential for development. You had two decks clearly better, and 5-6 others very interesting, but inferior. But a month passes and another powercreep set releases and we are in a new format, again.
We need time to appreciate a meta! Good or bad, needs to be developed. Unchained is another example, the deck theory was evolving so much, from almost full engine to play around nib in YCS São Paulo to making Apollousa, being more consistent and diverse. When we have time as a community to study, test and develop a deck and decks, the format even if it is tight at the top, becomes diverse by itself.
Some many issues with yugioh, that get too focused on this shitty we gonna have a yugi burnout...
And i against tier 0 because they always become super expensive, thats my number reason. But if we gonna have a tier 0, at least make like Tear Ishizu, engine, not this shitty top deck war we are right now. Tearlaments was the perfect example of a good tier 0, but even then we had some garbage like dweller and instant fusion (instant win), but i was ok with. And the crazy it's sounds it had is own diversity. Like Paulo from Brasil played 9 even 12 Bystials, others choose not to play full ishizu too not mill for your opponent, others play mourner/veiler/imperm. And even being the best deck ever printed in my opinion, spright had a chance to win, Floowandereeze had a chance, a great spright player would beat a average tear player most of the time.
Anyway, peace ✌🏽
One nitpick I have is that Jeff Jones' victory doesn't show an issue with a diverse format, it was more an issue of the matchup he got (tearlament) having very little room for non engine. Decks with little or no non engine get slaughtered by FTK decks.
This is gonna be a long one but for me I think yu-gi-oh as a whole was at it's best in 2016. We had dsod bringing back old fans to the their childhood. So many different decks being played abc, pendulum magicians, monarch, blue eyes, dark magician, ddd, blackwings, phantom knights, darklord, ritual beast, metalfoes, majespecter, true draco, lunalight, shiranui, nekroz and that's just me remembering off the top of my head. It felt like there was so much variety and fun to the game so many different archetypes would top ycs and blue eyes won worlds, hand traps weren't as prevalent as they are now no 20 minute boards. It just seemed to me could we ever get anything better than this time as a Yu-gi-oh fan? Not that I don't like stuff love some of the new stuff like cyberse, sky striker and branded to name a few but everything back then just seemed like the culmination of this game we've been playing for so long and it was fun to me at least don't know if anyone else agrees.
I'd love rotating retro formats in Master Duel
Toss was fun because of the different variants with those main archetypes
My favorite formats are the more diverse ones. As much as I understand that professional players like tighter formats, I disagree that a tight format makes play more skill-based. In theory, the best players with the best decks are the ones who can overcome the most opponents, not the ones who can beat the same 1-2 decks over and over again.
I think that professional players often want Yugioh to be more like chess, where skill equates to countering a limited and known set of potential outcomes. I believe that true Yugioh skill is being able to manage unknown potential outcomes by resilient deckbuilding.
I was about to call the format md had right before mbt Albion released the best but honestly it was hard carried by VS being the best deck. It's still the most fun I had with yugioh in my time playing but that's mainly because I genuinely believe Vanqiush Soul is peak yugioh.
The format before burst of destiny was really good. Also the bird up format
I think it's better to cut off before Synchro Storm since Tri-Lyrilusc was out of control for like a week. Summer 2021 was an all time great though, I agree with you on that. Lots of good cheap decks.
Can't wait for your boss monster vid either. Quite frankly, I think generic omni negate monsters are in the top 3 worst things to ever happen to the game, as they've enabled the turn 1 negate 6 screw off boards for multiple years now. Without them, like all combo decks become the less toxic tempo decks that other games have.
TOSS was best modern format right behind POTE. If tear didn't have ishizu and like 2 hits to the main deck monsters then it would be more enjoyable
POTE was pretty cool with just danger tear Spright exo mathmech, but I’m pretty confident if we labbed out that format for a year it would devolve into just playing tear mostly with some exo as an anti meta
Keep going BBW I love the content
Thank you, that means the world
The best format is taking a shot whenever your card gets negated. But +1 on affordability in TCG and MD. I hate the though of having to use so much dust just for snake-eyes. And a grand for one deck? Glad I don't play paper.
At the time of writing, I haven't played any format from the Arc-V era and onwards (besides the current format from February-March last year to today), so I can't say for sure which format is the best. I hear TOSS is held in quite high regard, though.
i greatly prefer diverse formats, but man tear format was so fun, i just think tear is such a fun deck lmao, its like gambling but you win every time, ie you just mill and hit names almost guaranteed, yes i have a gambling addiction.
Unchained format. Extremely diverse and unchained was healthy.
I only play master duel ,but the most fun meta ive had was Branded/swordsoul meta❤
Tight formats are expensive, case in point today this format, the only deck which wont set you back upwards of 150$ is floowandereeze, I would be open to tighter formats if the TCG didnt have the rarity issue we have right now. But as it stands, a diverse format is more beneficial to poorer players like myself, maybe one day we can get an OCG rarity system.
I loved the purely meta in master duel.
purely was tier 1
Kashtira was tier 2 and could easily defeat labyrinth
Labyrinth was tier 2 and could easily defeat branded
branded was tier 2 and could easily defeat Kashtira
and all these 3 decks had a good chance to win against purely.
Best format it’s primal origin /H.A.T format you could play anything deck with 3 soul charge and the duelist alliance format -the whole year was fun you never were out of a game .
I think the game should get straight up reset at this point lol, idk if any modern format has been good.
I really enjoyed the 2013 dragon rulers format.
Pre-AGOV was perfect. I had tons of fun at locals playing against various decks, every day was different. S:P and TY-PHON release, alongside the Wanted engine, just led to strategies being harder to reach by price, and by the time bonfire and Transaction Rollback came, Labrynth had a short tier 1 burst, and then PHNI came and made it tier 0. Pre-AGOV was just balanced, with tons of decks all being at very similar power levels, and no super-high price staples (if you count Rarity collection, which was just reprints).
Branded format and the Post-Ariseheart, Pre-AGOV format
TOSS format is only well loved as much as it is because it was the only good format throughout the entirety of Master Rule 4
I just want a format where my jank ass Myutant, reptile, or Volcanic deck doesn't get stomped by meta.
the ideal format is my favourite format and the worst format is your favourite format
Ideally, yugioh should be archetype vs archetype without the floodgates and generic boss monsters. Yuigoh also shouldn't be nearly as expensive because Konami isn't starving for money.
I think formats like tear should probably not exist. A deck being so overbearing that it makes one option the only entirely viable one because it adds a game warping effect just feels bad. Kashtira locking out all zones, tear milling half the deck, arise heart banishing all cards. It just really narrows the actual expression of the game.
You're right, though, it makes sense that Konami makes the representatives pay more to stay relevant
A way to fix this is to have a community ban list per tournament. Ohh final 4 matches in the tournament, players get to vote to ban certain cards that are in the tournament. Players vote for 10 but only 3 get actual ban. That way there is no way of knowing who wins
I miss pre nekroz duelist alliance format was fast but not too fast you can otk but it commonly goes to turn 4 and 5. Just why was maxx c still legal with vanities lmao
If tear was its own game I’d play it.
Tbf in defense of Jeff’s wins with Exodia at YCS. He went 4-3 that day I believe and I don’t think people knew how to counter the deck. If his feature match opponent hit Selene with imperm that would’ve been a wrench in his strategy
I agree, swordsoul branded format was one of the better formats in the modern era, it’s one of the last fair formats before POTE and later
Personally my favorite format was the duelist nexus to quarter century area. I had so much fun in this area as it felt like you had multiple decks to play, Age of Overlord really for me started the current format which I’m not a fan off, I hate Tier0 and leads to hardly any creativity.
Edit: I also loved how no cards were really over a hundred dollars at that time, say Triple tactics thrust but overall a really great time that I miss
Hat format was definitely peak
The existence of Colossus alone makes me not like TOSS. Other than that purple boy that format is pretty great
I just don’t get why anyone would want the game to be made for a very small percentage of players (the highly competitive players) making the game the best it can be for budget,casual and semi competitive as these are the vast majority of the player base so a diverse format just makes the most sense imo