Zeiss Classic Planar 50mm F1.4 ZF/ZE - An Artistic 50mm F1.4 Lens for my Lumix S5 & S1
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Hi guys! In today's video I'll talk about my first prime lens that I've bought for the Panasonic Lumix S cameras, the fantastic Zeiss Planar 50mm f1.4! I first had the Contax Yashica version of it, but because I like contrasty and punchy images, the Zeiss Classic are a better match for me!
Zeiss Classic 50mm F1.4 (ebay.us/5mVPBg)
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My absolute favourite lens ever. There is something magical about how it renders, no other lens I've owned makes me stop and say "wow" when I get a good photo except for maybe the Zeiss Distagon 35mm f2. The colours and contrast are next level. I have the Zeiss 85mm f1.4 Planar arriving tomorrow so am excited to see how it compares to that
Yes, this lens is magical! How did you like the 85mm f1.4? I find it a bit better than the 50mm...cheers!
The bokeh of the Classic ZE/ZF is absolutely one of my favorites. It often reminds me of the Arri Zeiss Standard Speeds Primes T 2.1. I shot my master degree's film with them, the blurry background bokeks look almost like being painted.
Thank you for one of the very best reviews I've ever seen on this lens. I focus mainly on the fast fifties for most of my work and have way too many. But this lens is the one I would never let go. I love playing with it in f1.4; allowing it to conjure up some magical bokeh. It's bokeh is different from every fifty I've ever used. I own a lot; from the 8-element SuperTakumar; to the Zeis Milvus and Sony GM f1.2. But this one is unique, in the rendering of its background. I couldn't live without it.
You're welcome and thanks for the kind words! I also love to play with the double character of this lens...it's simply phenomenal! Cheers!
Thanks for your fantastic reviews, they are really helpful and informative. Yesterday, I bought a used one for $248, went to the park to try it out, and took some photos and videos. I started shooting at f/1.4, switched to a smaller aperture for just a couple of photos, then returned to f/1.4, and stuck with it wide open :) The bokeh at f/1.4 with this lens is incredible, very dreamy. Actually, I've been using the Macro-Planar 50mm f/2 EF for the past 10 years. I haven’t seen a macro lens that can outperform the Macro-Planar f/2, even though I use extension tubes which affects its performance, and it was my favorite for portraits as well. I was doubtful about buying the f/1.4 Planar, wondering if I would need it, but my doubts vanished after the first shoots. The light transmission, compact size, and the artistic photos it produces below f/2 make this lens special.
I'm glad you had the chance to get this lens. Both lenses are definitely complementary, because of the very different look you get from them. Keep in mind that for portraits, the makro planar has a bit better highlights roll-off and it will work better in contrasty scenes. Cheers!
Ciao Luca, great review, I'm totally with you. The ZE 1.4/50 was my first Zeiss lens I've bought and now I have a set of 8, ranging from 18 to 85. The latest 1.4/85 would be an aboslut recommendation for you, similiar characteristics then the 1.4/50 and probably one of the best portrait lenses out there.
Hi Joachim! Thanks man! Do you have the classic version of the 85mm f1.4? I have that one, but I don't use it that much...I like to play in the wide angle territory ✌🏻
I got one Zeiss 50mmF1.4 for creative shots and a Milvus 50mmF2 both are used for woodland photos. I also have the Zeiss 35mmF2 and the Zeiss 18mmF3.5 for landscapes. I have the Zeiss 100mmF2 macro but I have not tested it yet. I use them on Nikon D700, D800E and D850.
You got a lovely kit! I don't have the 100mm, let me know how you like it!
Good review because you didn't concentrate on nonsense like test charts for corner sharpness etc. These lenses are art tools not scientific instruments.
I have the Contax/Yashica Zeiss 50mm f1.7. That's a bargain lens. I recognise some similarities from what you describe. However, the 1.7 seems to have different colour rendition from other Contax/Yashica. I have the 28mm f2.8 and that's got much more vibrant colours, especially green. That's a great landscape lens.
I have the Zeiss Distagon ZF 15mm f2.8 but 20mm is a favourite focal length of mine so I'm thinking about getting the ZF 21mm f2.8 next. One thing I love about the 15mm is extremely good rendition from strong light sources. You can point directly at the sun with great results. I don't think any other lens renders skies like the 15mm. The extreme wide angle, great flaring control and typical Zeiss micro contrast make it phenomenal for atmospheric skies. Another nice Zeiss wide angle is the old Jena Flektogon 20mm f4. I don't like the much praised Jena Flektogon 35mm but the 20mm is unique. It has some flaws. Colour rendition is not that great, it's low contrast, build quality is shaky and it's not super sharp but sharp enough. Where this lens excells is in black and white architecture shots. It has virtually no distortion and great 3D pop with beautiful monotone shading. Hence I'm thinking the 21mm f2.8 ZF would be good. I doubt it will have as much 3D pop due to more elements but the other problems would be improved and it should have the same very good flaring control as the 15mm.
Thanks Ryan!
I never tried the 50mm f1.7, it never attracted me because of the 0.6m minimum focus distance, but for the price I'm sure it's a great lens.
Thanks for sharing your experience with your lenses. It's super helpful and I really appreciate it! I never played and considered the Jena because I don't wont to be sucked in another black hole of vintage lenses ahahah. I've everything I need!
The 15mm f2.8 is wild! I also have it and it's an incredible lens.
The 21mm f2.8 is also nice, but it's playing on a lower tier when compared to the 15mm f2.8 and 25mm f2.
Just be careful when you test the 21mm, if you buy it. There are a lot of decentered lenses in the used market. Good luck with the hunt!
Best sales pitch for a lens I hear in a while. Buying one now
You'll love that lens 👌🏻
This is a brilliant lens. I paid £859 for it and have always been very happy. So creamy and warm colours.
Thanks for stopping by! Cheers!
I have the Zeiss Distagon 28 and Planar 85. Really need to get my hands on this one! I have a cheap canon 50mm and a vintage SMC Takumar 50mm so i've been holding off on getting it. Definitely my next purchase now. Nice video.
Thanks Evan! You've a nice kit there! This 50mm is a pure joy to use it, very similar to the Planar 85mm f1.4 but smaller and lighter.
Love your work, and what you are doing for the community. Thank you for sharing your experiences with us!
Thank you Luis! 🤙🏻
This video gives me enough references to buy this lens, thank you Luca, great work.
Thanks Taoren! Let me know if you like it!
I use the same lens housed in a Rollei QBM Carl Zeiss HFT Made in Germany at the Voigtlander Factory. It’s one of my favorites. I got into Mirrorless Cameras to be able to use my Vintage Rollei Zeiss and Schneider Kreuznach lenses again.
You got some nice gems there! Thanks for watching!
Hi kylestrokes4501, which mirrorless body did you chose (and which adaptator) to use your Rollei lenses? I myself have some and would like to use them too.
@@ThierryFLBP You know how this all works, it’s a sickness, hahaha. So, I started out with an eBay acquired Sony NEX 5n with the 16MP ASP-C sensor. I was blown away at the quality of the photos, and soon after I got a Sony NEX 7 24MP ASP-C from KEH which floored me, but didn’t do quite as well with low light, being the Megapixels are smaller, but in good light, it’s astonishing. Since of coarse they are manual focus, Video is mind-blowing through them. But I was dealing with the 1.5x Crop factor, and a speedbooster just to get 0.7x was going to be $500, so I invested in a full frame Sony a7r. Now honestly, I thought I would just love the full frame 37MP a7, but the size and sharp images from the NEX 7 just have a certain je ne sais quoi!!! And the small compact carry size for World Travel is just a no brainer, and the light carry really made me regret trying to go full frame, and the a7 may be the first camera I’ve ever sold. The NEX photos are indistinguishable to us even pixel peeping. As far as adapters, I’ve a wide range, but they are just dumb boxes basically, and all performed very well from $10-50, so no need to splurge there. So just a cheap QBM to E Mount, and you are ready! They are actually made just short of Infinity, so you go to infinity then down the range of ft/meters focus, so getting infinity has never been an issue, except on my Carl Zeiss HFT Sonnar 85/2.8 for some reason??? Could be the lens has an issue wide open, it will focus to infinity at f5.6 to smaller openings. The Planar 85/1.4 does focus to infinity wide open, so no idea there. Another cool thing about going Sony is that the e-mount Zeiss Touits (AutoFocus) Planar 32/1.8 and Distagon 12/2.8 can be found for $200 apiece and are excellent for photography. Zeiss Autofocus! But terribly loud focus motor for Videos.
@@ThierryFLBP SONY all the way!!! NEX 5n (for better light, but less MP) and NEX 7 (Stunningly sharp B&W, especially travel photos). For adaptors, ANY. I got cheap $10 to $50 E-Mount to QBM adapters, and all perform extremely well at infinity(actually go a little beyond infinity). I’ve only had to adjust the Carl Zeiss Sonnar HFT 85/2.8 to get sharp focus at infinity. The most important- the Huge Pro- these cameras have great “focus peaking” to assure Sharp Images without missing focus(Highlights features when in Focus). The only Con I can think of is the 1.5x crop factor of APS-C. However- if you want ultra-wide, there’s the Zeiss Touit Distagon 12/2.8 (which has Autofocus) can be obtained for $200!!! The only Con with it is the lens isn’t great for Video.
Recently I bought the Canon version. It's Carl Zeiss Planar 50mm f1.4 ZE T*. Just love this full manual lens that I use with Canon 5D Classic, 5DII & 5DIII. It's little soft wide open, starts getting sharper from f2 onwards. However, the wide open softness matches the desire for the dreamy film look.
Thank you for the video.
Thanks for sharing! I love this lens!
can it be used with Auto Focus? with an adapter?
@@SergiuSalcau00, full manual focus lens cannot be converted to auto focus. Photographers purchase this awesome lens mainly due to its manual focus feature.
In case you need autofocus, there are many choices out there. Rather full manual focus lens is rare.
It looks so dreamy. I love this lense.
Thanks for the video, Luca. Some very nice looking footage.
Thanks for watching! 🤟🏻
Hey Luca, I bought the 28mm f2 ZE two weeks ago for my Canon R3 videos. Now I have 25, 28, 35, 50 and 85. I get EXIF and focus confirmation which is just great.They are magical lenses!
Hi Roderick! Nice! The 28mm f2 is the lens that I would love to have, but I prefer to have a small kit and, having the 25mm and 35mm f2, I think I can live without that lens. I like to work with the 25, 35, 85 😁 combo
Thanks for watching! Cheers!
@@LucaBono.Studio you will have to get it, it's the Hollywood lens. Field curvature and lots of romance!
@@roderickfield1855 Ahahaha I know that I should have it...but I'm trying to be a bit minimalist ahahaha
Yeah, the "Hollywood" has absolutely gained it's name, love the characteristics which others call "mistakes". I also have the 2/25, totally differnent in sharpness and flaring. Like both of them for their signature.
@@joachimglaser2888 in using the Voigtlander 40mm ef, similar character and very small!
I am astounded by the reviewers all over internet, they shit all over this lens. They say the lens is not usable at f1.4 up to f2... to be honest you don't buy this type of lens only for shallow depth of field, it's possible but real photographers don't use depth field like that.
i think you nailed it for what it's good at, and the bandwidth it can be used for.
I am really sorry for the people who are missing out on such a great. A good thing is that people believe the bad reviews... so you can pick these ones up for lower price than second hand voigtlander 58 1.4
Yeah...I also don't understand why many reviewers talked bad about this lens. They probably missed the point of this lens...
Thanks for stopping by. Cheers!
I have the 85mm Classic - skin tones A+, character is amazing
Yeah, the 85mm is a beautiful lens too
I am still searching for a good perfect vintage set that I will use for my projects thanks for this Luca always great content 💪
Hi Hamza! Thank you for watching 🤟🏻
@@LucaBono.Studio Most Welcome
I agree that this zeiss lens has great character, but there are some modern lenses that combine both character and sharpness. They're not usually advertised by the biggest youtube channels, but there's plenty of them out there.
Thanks! Do you have some suggestions?
@LucaBono.Studio As a Canon shooter, the below come to mind:
- Voigtlander lenses: The 40mm F1.2, the 50mm F1, the 75mm F1.5
- The tamron 45mm F1.8 and 35mm F1.4, both of which need to be adapted though.
- (Cliche) The Canon RF 50mm F1.2
- The Canon RF 28mm F2.8
- The Samyang 45mm F1.8
- The Irix 45mm F1.4 (DSLR lens)
Ciao Luca,
Thanks for your interesting video!
If I understand correctly there are more versions of planar 50 1.4 . Are you talking about zf2? How about normal zf?
Thanks!
I've tried both ZF and ZF.2 and they're the same. You'll get a different rendering of the images with the Contax Zeiss 50mm f1.4 (that I don't have anymore)
I bought the zeiss 50mm recently. Almost got the Voigtlander 58mm instead but it didn't deliver the same rendering as the zeiss.
Got an older non cpu version and works perfectly on my Nikon D800.
Lovvve It. 😊
Nice! I've the same, without cpu contacts! Have fun with it 👍🏻
For ur lumix, did u bought the EF OR nikon mound planner ? Please explain, also adaptör
I think 50mm 1.8 Pancolar DDR renders images more beautifully.
That's subjective taste...for me it's the opposite 😅
Very wonderful, love that lens. Have you ever considered the m-mount zeiss sonnar 50mm f1.5? Seems to be quite the famous lens in leica-land. And what about some of the voigtlander options, the 58mm f1.4 for example? Of course, at a point one must restrain oneself from testing every lens out there ;)
Just wondered if you had considered them
Thanks mate! No, i never tried the Sonnar 50mm f1.5 and I don't plan to do it. Having two very good 50mm lenses is enough for me. Cheers!
It sure does have a strong character wide open!
Hi Marco! Yes it's has a beautiful and strong character if used wide open 🤟🏻
Hey luca! Love your videos, i'm getting the 50 and the 85mm in a few days! What VND Filters would you suggest with both these lenses?
Congrats mate! You'll love them! I like the new freewell V2 VND
When I buy a CPU version for Nikon, will it work with the ftz2 adapter for the Z mount, for example with exifs, stabilisation etc.?
It should work, but I can't confirm it. I don't have Nikon mirrorless cameras, sorry
I have this lens, the distagon 35/2 and I also have the voitlander 58/1.4. I use them on the d800 as well as adapted on the fuji gfx. They are all amazing bits of glass. People who shit on the Planar are not real photographers. I have also read people shitting on the Voitlander wide open. People are just idiots. They are the ones where blur is more important than the actual meaning of the photo. They don't actually produce anything significant and just end up buying more and more gear and talking a load of shit online.
There are people that sadly can easily get influenced by other people's opinion. I'm not saying that this planar is for everyone. Technically, there are better lenses in the market...but they all produce the same images. It's kinda of boring.
Thanks for watching! Cheers!
Hey Luca! Always love your videos. I am considering buying the Contax Zeiss 50 mm 1.4 for my Lumix S5 but I've been having trouble figuring out which lens adapter to buy for it. The specific lenses I'm looking at on eBay are CY mounts and would love to get your opinion on this!
Thanks Mia! I've one of those 20$ adapter and it's working good enough! Just search CY to Leica L adapter on ebay ✌🏻
@@LucaBono.Studio Okay great. Thank you so much!
Awesome video. What adapter are you using for you L mount? Thanks
Thanks! I use a Fotasy one, the link is in the descriptions. Cheers!
This is a good review !!
Thanks mate!
Nice video! Please, can you tell what Nikon to L mount adapter would be best for my S5, so I can use my vintage lenses?
Hi Kaloian! Thank you! I saw that k&f made a new series of adapters for our L-Mount cameras...get one of them!
I will, thanks!
Great video! Do you know how it compares to the CY version? I’m considering swapping my EF version for the CY MMJ one.
Thanks mate! The CY is more creamy and less contrasty, 6 aperture blades that will show stop down signs in the bokeh balls and it has a slightly stronger vignette.
I prefer the Classic version, but you should try them side by side to decide what to keep. Cheers!
@@LucaBono.Studio Thanks! The only problem is I can’t try them side by side without buying it first! But from the photos I’ve seen, I prefer the size and handling of the CY. I’d be using it on a Canon R6, that’s why I got the EF version originally. Might have to get one after all from a Japanese eBay seller if I can’t resist any longer.
I think this version have electronic contacts, yo can make photos with AF with the lumix s5?
No, this lens is 100% manual focus only. Cheers
Ciao Luca, scusami un informazione, sul gimbal usi il motor focus o metti prima a fuoco a cerchi di seguire stando sempre alla stessa distanza? Grazie mille
Ciao Ferdinando. Ho delle distanze che preferisco, in base alla focale che uso. In genere sto ad 1m se uso il 25mm, 1m o 3m col 50mm, etc...mantenendo la stessa distanza mentre filmo.
@@LucaBono.Studio ti ringrazio, sei stato gentilissimo.
Hello Luca, do you prefer this to the Leica R or Voigtlander ultron?
I think I prefer the Leica R 50mm F2. Cheers!
What's your favourite vintage 50mm prime lens?
I haven't used any of the Zeisses, but from my Nikon set, I really love the 50 mm f/1.4 :)
I occasionally take the Helios 44-4 for some swirly bokeh, but it's not ideal for video work because of general softness
The Zeiss classic ze 50mm f2 makro-planar, you should try it :)
Summicron 50mm f2 :)
Right now, it is my Minolta MD 50mm f/2 lens. Lots of spherical aberration when shot wide open (which I like). The bokeh is kind of "meh" once you stop down because it has strong hexagon shape at f/2.8 or so. However, that CAN be interesting if you want bokeh that looks different from other bokeh. Would be better if it had a closer minimum focus distance.
Ciao Luca, sto pensando di comprare una S1 o una S5 e mi piacerebbe prendere un paio di obiettivi vintage.
Ora, siccome possiedo giá una Yashica FX-3 super 2000 a pellicola, volevo chiederti quale adattore prendere per la Lumix per poter usare lenti con attacco appunto C/Y (in modo da riuscire a usare le lenti per entrambi i corpi -Yashica e Lumix, se questo é possibile).
Grazie mille se vorrai rispondermi! 🖐
Which adapter?? Just bought an S5 and already have ZE lenses 😁
Hi! You'll need the sigma mc-21 to be able to control the iris of ZE lenses. Cheers!
Beautiful but Bad Chromatic Aberration performance.
Ton of purple fringed. With little Green.
Are there intermediate aperture stops available for Canon version? It'll be helpful for purchase decision. The local store doesn't have the ZE version. Thanks in advance.
Hey mate...I don't know about the ZE version. I only own ZF lenses. Good luck with the research!
@@LucaBono.Studio Thanks for responding. Can you say if ZF version has intermediate stops? ZE and ZF mightn't be very different (I realize ZF has dedicated aperture ring). Recently got a sweet deal on Zeiss Contax planar version but it had only full stops f1.4 to f2 and nothing in between. Hence your response might help me to decide the purchase 😇
Yes, ZF lenses have half stop in between. I switched from Contax Zeiss to Zeiss Classic because it's impossibile to find the wide angle lenses at decent price with Contax Zeiss...keep it in mind if you're building a set of lenses. Cheers!
@@LucaBono.Studio Highly appreciate you pointing out the difference. There was a 50mm 1.4 contax planar older version with ninja star bokeh for 250euros. Didn't buy as there was no adapter and also I wasn't sure how it'll be for photograhy. I intend to start video work by next few months. What do you recommend: ZE version or contax planar?
ZF Classic or Milvus, Leica R, Meyer Optik, Voigtlander...you can't go wrong with these lenses. Cheers!
Ciao Luca, ero indeciso su che obiettivo prendere e stavo optando per questa Carl Zeiss, ma non ho capito la differenza tra lo Zeiss C/Y che c’è nel video e lo Zeiss ZF nel titolo, grazie!
Ciao! Il C/Y è più cremoso e leggermente meno nitido. Ha 6 lamelle del diaframma, anziché 9. Vignetta leggermente di più.
Ma è così relativamente brutto da usare a f1.4 come dicono? O dipende soprattutto dalla distanza in cui lo si usa? Io scatto in Analogico con una Nikon F3, sono prevalentemente un ritrattista / faccio ritratti ambientati, volevo un obiettivo prime, ma non il classico Nikon, secondo te farei un’ottima scelta con lo zf?
Grazie per i consigli!
Io andrei di ZF, magari provalo prima di comprarlo se non sei sicuro
Grazie per la recensione. Cosa pensi dei nikon ai-s?
Ciao Marco! Onestamente non le ho mai usate, ma dai video di Frank Apollonio che ho visto su yt non mi entusiasmano... grazie per la visita! 🤟🏻
@@LucaBono.Studio Grazie a te per la recensione 🤟
HI Luca, Im just wondering, do you think using a Pro mist filter with this lens is actually helpful to achieve a cinematic look? I mean, haven't you got it with the lens already? Im asking because I have this exact dilemma right now 😂
Hi! A diffusion filter will smooth the highlights roll-off, so it will have more of a film look. You could try the Soft Silver 1/4 from Formatt Hitech, it's a nice one 👍🏻
@@LucaBono.Studio but thats my point, we know sharpness is not the main strenght in a vintage lens, dont you feel a filter would add more softness to the image?
Im tempted to use it but a bit concern about that.
Thanks for you always great content!
If you're referring to the Contax Zeiss 50mm F1.4, then you don't need to use a diffusion filter with it. If you have the Zeiss Classic, you can use a diffusion filter. I hope this helps! Cheers mate!
@@LucaBono.Studio well not specifically to the Contax, you know, all these lenses like helios, takumar, minolta… Im still deciding which one to get.
You always help a lot, many thanks!
Ooh ok! No, you don't need a diffusion filter with vintage lenses. Maybe start with the helios 44-2, that lens is a must have 👌🏼
SORRY FOR ME IS CONFUSING, IS THIS A C/Y MOUNT? OR NIKON MOUNT, ...THAN "OLD CONTAC ZEISS" AND "THE ZEISS CLASSIC", THIS LENS HAS 9 APERTURE BLADES...WHICH LENS? THAN YOU MENTION 58MM AND THE TITLE IS DIFFERENT..than i wanna talk about this fantastic zeiss 50mm f 1.4 but you show an 85mm lens on the screen and than you say 58mm, and sharper than.....you lost me
Hi Valentin, in the first part I talk about the C/Y mount, that I had for one year, and then I talk about the Classic ZF (same optical design but with higher resolving power than the C/Y version, 58mm filter size instead of 55 of the C/Y, 9 aperture blades instead of 6 that you can find in the C/Y version). I hope it's clear now, cheers!
@@LucaBono.Studio thank you so much for the answer, yes it's now clear :)
@@LucaBono.Studio Grazzie mille
Prego!
next step, Milvus...
Probably 🤣 but they're heavier...so then I'll just jump to the otus lineup
I couldn't care less about bokeh. I'm not a bokeh junkie. Most people who view your images couldn't give a shit about the out of focus rendering wide open. Personally, I hate images shot wide open. The most iconic images ever weren't shot wide open. It's just a fad. All I know that this lens is stunning between f4/f8, has gorgeous rendering character and 3D pop, and it is a joy to use. That is all I need from a lens.
Everyone has a different opinion about the bokeh, that you can still see if you stop down a lens to f4/f5.6
@@LucaBono.Studiototally. You can shoot at f4 and adjust your distace to subject and you will get some lovely silky smooth rendering if that is important to you. Like you said, you need to know the strengths and weaknesses of the lens. This glass is made with lead so it is one of the reasons for its unique image character .
They don't care about it true, because they're not conscious about the difference between good bokeh and bad bokeh. However, they will intuitively be drawn towards an image with creamy bokeh and good microcontrat and saturation. On the other hand, a lens like the cheap nifty fifty canon will give uninteresting images that will be less attention grabbing because it renders really rather bad. This lens is a feast to the eyes.
No, that’s a shit lens. It’s optically no better than a canon 1.4 for hundreds less. it it has horribly jittery background blur when focused up close. Redesigned Milvus 50mm 1.4 is a phenomenal lines.
What about writing: No, I don't like this lens for the type of photography I do?
This is a lens with a double character 😉