I love the 2 and 3 rework, I prefer the third, but I would add some islands on the right side of the map that conected with the left islands, that could be insane... But your revewing 3 is the best evision of this map that I have ever seen. Buy the way, you made the plans of the map? they are very clear
I really do like your last 2 redesigns of Mahi-Mahi Resort, though it does make me wonder on how Hammerhead Bridge would look? Using the same prosses that you did. Making multiple variations back to how to the original map looked in Splatoon 1.
Despite Mahi-Mahi being very different from its original stage, it still retains the basic skeleton of it. Hammerhead on the other hand was completely changed down to the last pixel, so it would be really difficult to gradually morph back to the original. If I was in charge I'd just completely delete what we have and restart from scratch lol.
I think hammer head was fine in splatoon 1. we just needed to yeet the bridge a little in rain maker so that it was not a free win from rainmaker pickup to rainmaker delivery.
@@thebipedalsquid True. That does make me wonder what you would do to improve the newer stages? Some of them are fine, but stuff like Scorch gorge and Undertow spillway really feel like they could've used an extra revision similar to Mahi Mahi now.
@@rbpgamemaster Undertow I feel is a perfect map if the sides were open to flank. Like it's genuinely great on tower control in my opinion because for the most part you're playing in each other's spawn areas. Scorch Gorge I feel just needs the lower areas to be much larger and less "choke pointy". Also in Splat zones there should be two zones instead of it surrounding the tower.
Revision 2 and 3 genuinely look incredible I hope Nintendo at least springs for something like revision 2. It'd be so cool to play on a modern version of Mahi especially with the new S3 weapons and mechanics 🙏🙏🙏
Bro looking at the second redesign of mahi-mahi literally made me sad because your version looks like such an amazing map and I don’t expect Nintendo to get anywhere close to it. If you need a reference for your application to Nintendo’s Splatoon 3 map design team, hit me up Also, thank you Negus corner for making me aware of this video and channel. Instant sub
Thanks I really appreciate it! And I really agree, it stings even harder knowing any year now the servers may shut down on that game, effectively making the maps that were changed here inaccessible :(
Now that the redesign has been shown off, seems mixed both the ideas of 1 and 2 (more of 1) with extending the islands, adding a new flank and adding more terrain to spawn. An inkrail is also nice for the turf war mode and overall it seems like good changes !
It's so funny that you actually predict it right that they deleted all those additional routes on Flounders lmao (maybe they kept left route but it's still heavily modified)
> Only made 2 main Splatoon 3 videos > Both are insanely good and well made bringing great ideas to the table Yep, you've 100% earned my subscription, I think you deserve this one!
I still hope that Stages are getting redesigned after they got destroyed during Big Run. Mahi would make sense for Big Run, because its already above Water.
Honestly i'm worried that Big run and Tricolor are the reason why stages are designed the way theyre designed, in trying to get them to work in all modes, they ended up designing all of them around a very simple central area.
I think Nintendo needs to hit that middle ground between too open maps (s1 flounder heights) and too small and enclosed maps (s3 mahi mahi), and I see them doing that. Since it's a 4v4 game, too much choice can ruin the coordination of the team, but too little choice just makes the map boring and bland. Mahi mahi is definitely the latter one
0:33 I used to make maps/stages for csgo and watched community map makers on how they did the maps, and I can say that theres no good or bad way to make a map, theres not like a set of instructions. Most of the time is just trial and error so saying that u are not an expert its not necessary, with the time you just get a feeling of how to do it. What im trying to say is theres no "expert map creators", its just "experienced map creators".
Nintendo can take time to fix this by making deep cut make a report on mahi-mahi being temporarily closed because it got destroyed or vandalized or something
Looking back on this video with the recent changes, it seems that they took the route for revision #1. Although certain things were left behind, such as the one flank routes that make you jump over water (probably to help chargers out maybe). Also for the rainmaker , they didn't put the rainmaker tower on the "island" area; probably to help with making quick getaways so that the path of the carrier wouldn't be so easy to regroup and counter (this change adds to the fun). Although they did create an area that was exclusive to the spawn area and added the second floatie, which is a good aspect from revision #2 and #3.
i have also been thinking about how mahi mahi's design could be changed and i really like your revisions, especially #3! as you mentioned that revision has all the islands from the original, but what's interesting is that Splatoon 3's take on the stage still impacts it, like the direct path into enemy territory from mid which, in Splatoon 1, only really existed as a rainmaker ramp post-water drop (among other aspects). it would be funny if mahi wasn't changed though lol
During the Splatfest I played a lot on this stage and won almost al the times Some times me and my team would just easily do a nasty spawn camping on the other team That made me understand the flaws of this stage, is really easy to make it unfair to the others
another problem with mahi atm is that the spawn areas are too big, and allow for too much spawn camping to too many corners for enemies to camp in, in your spawn
I don’t expect them to put much effort into reworking old stages they’ve already reworked. I’d be happy enough if they just ported the originals stages straight from the first game
Considering how everyone complained about 3-color turf to the point that even Nintendo said "Yes, we gonna have go do some change", maybe if we get more people to complain about these stages, Nintendo would be willing to change them But, IDK if there's that much people out there complaining about the stages, in my case I didn't even think they were bad because I never played 1 and I found funny to do some spawn camping easily, but now after seeing this part of the fandom I can see the flaws (Tho I still don't get why everyone hates Wahoo World, I always found that stage alright, if so, even better designed that Splat 3 Mahi Mahi)
I also don't see why everyone hates Wahoo World. To me, it's alright but nothing special (even in Splatoon 2) and the center rotating platform is just another twist on Museum D'alfonsino rotating platforms gimmick. Yet everyone loves Museum D'alfonsino for it. I honestly hate Sturgeon Shipyard the most since it's so easy for one team to block off and camp the other team once they capture the middle bridge area. I'd trade Sturgeon Shipyard for something like Manta Marina ship map.
I hope they add a stage builder and hosting your own server like tf2, but we all know there's no way Nintendo would give us that much code, so maybe just allowing you to use your switch as a server would be nice.
My man i dont now what to say, amazing reworks. Did you do this with some kind of Stage maker or did you make this all by yourself? Im really looking forward to your collab with Chara! :)
@@platy4700 I guess we have to wait and see how much the rework (if you didn’t know, Nintendo announced that they will rework this map) improves the map. My hopes are high because it looks like option 1 in this video, but with some spawn improvements!
@@thebipedalsquid i can't help but think that no outside force told them to make maps simpler, this is such a specific thing, it feels like that decision was made by the devs of Splatoon themselfs. Like i don't think they ever carred about how people might use Flank-routes to move around, that is something a balanceteam concerns otself with
I loved the video! Please do a video about hammerhead bridge I'd love to hear your ideas! 🌉 also does nintendo ever listen to the fans when it comes to map redesigns? I know they did it once but that's it and if possible, how can we communicate that again?
Thank you! I really have no clue to what extent they listen to feedback, but if they do I'd imagine it's only from the Japanese community. Not sure what the consensus on stage design is there.
I'm not sure, I could possibly but besides Hammerhead Bridge there aren't really any in the game that require major reworks, at least worthy of a video. Maybe I could make a single one where I go over how I would fix all the bad maps.
Coming back now, its wild how you managed to perfectly predict exactly how disappointing Nintendo's remake would be with Rev. 1, outside of a few minor differences (Such as a possible extra island, a plus in my eyes) the official remake is exactly on model for the "Disappointing but acceptable" category. Hopefully the rest will only get better as the remakes go along, and we get a competent map team for S4 that can redo the least likely to change maps original to S3.
@@thebipedalsquid Slight mix bag. Moray Towers is Moray Towers it been here since the first Splatoon. Most maps that were new and introduced in Splatoon 2 started going in the direction of smaller maps. But the specials in Splatoon 2 made those maps more possible to be played on. Ergo why I miss Ink Armor and Bubbler.
Before watching this video I genuinely could not see old mahi at ALL in the map. With the revisions now I kinda see it, but to me current mahi is not mahi.
Splatoon 3 maps share the SAME god damn problems the second game has. There's no flanking and there aren't enough routes to take. What kills me is that the levels being ported from the first Splatoon are all being completely changed. Mahi Mahi isn't even the same map anymore it shouldn't share the same name.
@@anarkuu yes, examples spl1 Urchin Underpass. Spl2 Blackbelly skatepark, the reef, starfish mainstage, And shellendorf Institute. (Also it was mentioned in the video.)
Lmao they aren't gonna change it at all. They are catering this game towards toddlers and old grandmas now. This game isn't targetted for us, and we can blame doug bowser for not understanding gamers lol
Just wanted to point out that the ending segment is supposed to be satirical lol. Anyways thanks for watching.
I love the 2 and 3 rework, I prefer the third, but I would add some islands on the right side of the map that conected with the left islands, that could be insane... But your revewing 3 is the best evision of this map that I have ever seen. Buy the way, you made the plans of the map? they are very clear
I like revision 2 and 3 is better then OG stage, you did a good job with the scaling of revisions to be closer to the original.
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Suddenly this video becomes very relevant again
2 or 3 would be super hype but I doubt they’re really gonna touch the stage up much if at all. The level designers seem to be allergic to flanks.
I really do like your last 2 redesigns of Mahi-Mahi Resort, though it does make me wonder on how Hammerhead Bridge would look? Using the same prosses that you did. Making multiple variations back to how to the original map looked in Splatoon 1.
Despite Mahi-Mahi being very different from its original stage, it still retains the basic skeleton of it. Hammerhead on the other hand was completely changed down to the last pixel, so it would be really difficult to gradually morph back to the original. If I was in charge I'd just completely delete what we have and restart from scratch lol.
I think hammer head was fine in splatoon 1. we just needed to yeet the bridge a little in rain maker so that it was not a free win from rainmaker pickup to rainmaker delivery.
@@thebipedalsquid True. That does make me wonder what you would do to improve the newer stages? Some of them are fine, but stuff like Scorch gorge and Undertow spillway really feel like they could've used an extra revision similar to Mahi Mahi now.
@@rbpgamemaster Undertow I feel is a perfect map if the sides were open to flank. Like it's genuinely great on tower control in my opinion because for the most part you're playing in each other's spawn areas. Scorch Gorge I feel just needs the lower areas to be much larger and less "choke pointy". Also in Splat zones there should be two zones instead of it surrounding the tower.
Revision 2 and 3 genuinely look incredible I hope Nintendo at least springs for something like revision 2. It'd be so cool to play on a modern version of Mahi especially with the new S3 weapons and mechanics 🙏🙏🙏
I want nothing more than to play on Mahi-Mahi Resort in Splatoon 3
Bro looking at the second redesign of mahi-mahi literally made me sad because your version looks like such an amazing map and I don’t expect Nintendo to get anywhere close to it.
If you need a reference for your application to Nintendo’s Splatoon 3 map design team, hit me up
Also, thank you Negus corner for making me aware of this video and channel. Instant sub
I love your content man, I miss the old days of Splatoon 1 where the maps were fun. We really took it for granted :(
Thanks I really appreciate it! And I really agree, it stings even harder knowing any year now the servers may shut down on that game, effectively making the maps that were changed here inaccessible :(
Bffr 💀
let's hope flounder heights won't be changed as much (it probably will)
@@nepotism_doll it’s changed for the better like all splatoon 1 maps, except hammerhead bridge which was shitty and remained shitty
@@Kllian_d yeah hammerhead bridge is just ass
Now that the redesign has been shown off, seems mixed both the ideas of 1 and 2 (more of 1) with extending the islands, adding a new flank and adding more terrain to spawn. An inkrail is also nice for the turf war mode and overall it seems like good changes !
You were actually pretty damn close with revision 1! They just tweeted that it'll finally get a rework
Very nice redesign and also very clear graphics. I really hope they update it to something like these in the future.
Nintendo actually did it! And their rework looks really close to option 1, but with even more spawn changes!
It's so funny that you actually predict it right that they deleted all those additional routes on Flounders lmao (maybe they kept left route but it's still heavily modified)
Yeah it seems mostly the right path was completely deleted. I'm pretty sure you can still go left.
> Only made 2 main Splatoon 3 videos
> Both are insanely good and well made bringing great ideas to the table
Yep, you've 100% earned my subscription, I think you deserve this one!
Thanks for the kind words!
I still hope that Stages are getting redesigned after they got destroyed during Big Run. Mahi would make sense for Big Run, because its already above Water.
Honestly i'm worried that Big run and Tricolor are the reason why stages are designed the way theyre designed, in trying to get them to work in all modes, they ended up designing all of them around a very simple central area.
I think Nintendo needs to hit that middle ground between too open maps (s1 flounder heights) and too small and enclosed maps (s3 mahi mahi), and I see them doing that. Since it's a 4v4 game, too much choice can ruin the coordination of the team, but too little choice just makes the map boring and bland. Mahi mahi is definitely the latter one
This aged interestingly. Let's hope the devs make Mahi a decent map!
0:33 I used to make maps/stages for csgo and watched community map makers on how they did the maps, and I can say that theres no good or bad way to make a map, theres not like a set of instructions. Most of the time is just trial and error so saying that u are not an expert its not necessary, with the time you just get a feeling of how to do it.
What im trying to say is theres no "expert map creators", its just "experienced map creators".
Nintendo can take time to fix this by making deep cut make a report on mahi-mahi being temporarily closed because it got destroyed or vandalized or something
Looking back on this video with the recent changes, it seems that they took the route for revision #1. Although certain things were left behind, such as the one flank routes that make you jump over water (probably to help chargers out maybe). Also for the rainmaker , they didn't put the rainmaker tower on the "island" area; probably to help with making quick getaways so that the path of the carrier wouldn't be so easy to regroup and counter (this change adds to the fun). Although they did create an area that was exclusive to the spawn area and added the second floatie, which is a good aspect from revision #2 and #3.
I like how the official rework is a combination of revision 1 and 2! It looks good
i have also been thinking about how mahi mahi's design could be changed and i really like your revisions, especially #3! as you mentioned that revision has all the islands from the original, but what's interesting is that Splatoon 3's take on the stage still impacts it, like the direct path into enemy territory from mid which, in Splatoon 1, only really existed as a rainmaker ramp post-water drop (among other aspects).
it would be funny if mahi wasn't changed though lol
You did a great job on the revisions and explaining your logic, great video!
Thank you!
During the Splatfest I played a lot on this stage and won almost al the times
Some times me and my team would just easily do a nasty spawn camping on the other team
That made me understand the flaws of this stage, is really easy to make it unfair to the others
these revisions make this stage look playable
This appeared in my recommendations, I really enjoyed your insight! And I agree making maps more complex with multiple routes would be ideal.
This video needs more viewers. Very good video
Thank you!
honestly this dude deserves more attention
Want a job at Nintendo? You definitely would be hired
Bro, to believe this is actually what you made is amazing! Think we’d end up getting another one for other stages like Hammerhead?
Possibly!
another problem with mahi atm is that the spawn areas are too big, and allow for too much spawn camping to too many corners for enemies to camp in, in your spawn
I feel like if they resigned mahi mahi that the idols would say something about it getting rebuilt or something like that
Real Rework doesn’t seem like it did enough but this one looks good
such a good vid, and now i'm your 400th sub!
I don’t expect them to put much effort into reworking old stages they’ve already reworked. I’d be happy enough if they just ported the originals stages straight from the first game
Considering how everyone complained about 3-color turf to the point that even Nintendo said "Yes, we gonna have go do some change", maybe if we get more people to complain about these stages, Nintendo would be willing to change them
But, IDK if there's that much people out there complaining about the stages, in my case I didn't even think they were bad because I never played 1 and I found funny to do some spawn camping easily, but now after seeing this part of the fandom I can see the flaws
(Tho I still don't get why everyone hates Wahoo World, I always found that stage alright, if so, even better designed that Splat 3 Mahi Mahi)
I also don't see why everyone hates Wahoo World. To me, it's alright but nothing special (even in Splatoon 2) and the center rotating platform is just another twist on Museum D'alfonsino rotating platforms gimmick. Yet everyone loves Museum D'alfonsino for it.
I honestly hate Sturgeon Shipyard the most since it's so easy for one team to block off and camp the other team once they capture the middle bridge area. I'd trade Sturgeon Shipyard for something like Manta Marina ship map.
I hope they add a stage builder and hosting your own server like tf2, but we all know there's no way Nintendo would give us that much code, so maybe just allowing you to use your switch as a server would be nice.
OMG NINTENDO CONFIRMED THEY ARE REWORKING MAHI-MAHI
My man i dont now what to say, amazing reworks.
Did you do this with some kind of Stage maker or did you make this all by yourself?
Im really looking forward to your collab with Chara! :)
Thanks! I made them just from scratch myself :)
Thats sick! I hope you make more splatoon Stuff in the Future :D
why is nintendo so obsessed with deleting flank options that make maps fun and….. not straight lines
can't wait for the modders to fix the maps in 2 years lmao
Then get their videos removed by Nintendo
Flounder Heights is just Flounder Complex or somethin' now
flounder flats
Exactly
Flounder Chode is what I've dubbed it as they removed the verticality that made it fun and special
Tbh we all know they removed most of everything great about the og maps fr
SHORT ANSWER: They won’t.
LONG ANSWER: They refuse to because they hate you and don’t want you to have fun.
Luckily this comment aged poorly
@@potatojuiceultra No it did not
@@platy4700 I guess we have to wait and see how much the rework (if you didn’t know, Nintendo announced that they will rework this map) improves the map. My hopes are high because it looks like option 1 in this video, but with some spawn improvements!
I wonder who drove Nintendo to go all Simpleified in 3,
Wasn't the whole idea of 3 beeing themed around chaos ?????
Splatoon has become too mainstream for the higher-ups to not force it to be simple for the kids. At least that's my guess on it.
@@thebipedalsquid i can't help but think that no outside force told them to make maps simpler, this is such a specific thing, it feels like that decision was made by the devs of Splatoon themselfs.
Like i don't think they ever carred about how people might use Flank-routes to move around, that is something a balanceteam concerns otself with
I loved the video! Please do a video about hammerhead bridge I'd love to hear your ideas! 🌉 also does nintendo ever listen to the fans when it comes to map redesigns? I know they did it once but that's it and if possible, how can we communicate that again?
Thank you! I really have no clue to what extent they listen to feedback, but if they do I'd imagine it's only from the Japanese community. Not sure what the consensus on stage design is there.
hopefully Nintendo sees this
one must hope
and also: it’s definitely not fine
How did you make ur map pictures? Like did you use a software?
Really cool! Will you make this for other stages?
I'm not sure, I could possibly but besides Hammerhead Bridge there aren't really any in the game that require major reworks, at least worthy of a video. Maybe I could make a single one where I go over how I would fix all the bad maps.
@@thebipedalsquid definitely
Coming back now, its wild how you managed to perfectly predict exactly how disappointing Nintendo's remake would be with Rev. 1, outside of a few minor differences (Such as a possible extra island, a plus in my eyes) the official remake is exactly on model for the "Disappointing but acceptable" category. Hopefully the rest will only get better as the remakes go along, and we get a competent map team for S4 that can redo the least likely to change maps original to S3.
I don't mind if they retailer maps. I DO mind if they take route options from maps and map design.
Basically yeah. From memory Splatoon 2's reworks of the first game's maps only changed them for the better and didn't take anything major away.
@@thebipedalsquid Slight mix bag. Moray Towers is Moray Towers it been here since the first Splatoon.
Most maps that were new and introduced in Splatoon 2 started going in the direction of smaller maps.
But the specials in Splatoon 2 made those maps more possible to be played on. Ergo why I miss Ink Armor and Bubbler.
It be cool if he reviewed problem maps and some suggestion to fix it
Working on a collab with Prochara doing just that!
revision 2 and 3 look SO good id like it even more than the S1 vers
Good video!
Thanks!
Dang did you make these designs yourself? they are really good
Yeah I did! Thank you
5:39 Which Shifty Station was that?
Forgot what it was called but it was for unicorns vs narwhals
Before watching this video I genuinely could not see old mahi at ALL in the map. With the revisions now I kinda see it, but to me current mahi is not mahi.
It took me awhile too, at first I thought the map was mirrored because of the vertical spawn.
Nintendo after being late for a full year🤭
😂😂😂the ending
Welp I guess the actual rework is just a slightly worse revision 1
Splatoon 3 maps share the SAME god damn problems the second game has. There's no flanking and there aren't enough routes to take. What kills me is that the levels being ported from the first Splatoon are all being completely changed. Mahi Mahi isn't even the same map anymore it shouldn't share the same name.
We'll see how well Nintendo does it in a few days now!
Has Nintendo revised and reworked stages in the past?
Yes, The Reef, Blackbelly Skatepark and Starfish Mainstage come to mind.
How would Nintendo fix Splatoon 3?
*they won’t*
This is all great. Unfortunately, Nintendo will probably never revise it. Which sucks!
I don't know, most people seem to hate this stage. I think it's very likely at least some kind of change will happen.
@@thebipedalsquid has nintendo ever revised any past splatoon maps or is it just not a possibility?
@@anarkuu yes, examples spl1 Urchin Underpass. Spl2 Blackbelly skatepark, the reef, starfish mainstage, And shellendorf Institute.
(Also it was mentioned in the video.)
Hey, I love the ideas for fixing mahi mahi, but I am iffy on them because they don’t have enough half time water drop land.
Really wish that nintendo rework mahi but Nintendo never does what fans want... 😖
What did you use to make the maps ?
Puttin this comment here for the algorithm. 👍
Lmao they aren't gonna change it at all.
They are catering this game towards toddlers and old grandmas now. This game isn't targetted for us, and we can blame doug bowser for not understanding gamers lol
I don't think Doug Bowser even exists
Just put the original layout back in, problem solved
Well if they wanted to go for original styles it should’ve been called splatoon 2 1/2
how would they
They wouldn't
If a human being took over stage design they would
Hello
Delete it entirely from the game and replace it with a awesome Splatoon 2 map 😐
Actually of all the maps, I hate Mako Mart
Really? Could you explain why?
Delete it
Make it bigger
Why fix it if it’s already perfect?
Get this man to a hospital
@@thebipedalsquid bffr in splatoon 1 mahi mahi was actually awfuk
@@Kllian_d and Splatoon 3 Mahi is good?
@@thebipedalsquid yeah except in turf war it’s really good
@@Kllian_d no it isn’t lol?
I desagree. This is my favorite course. Leave the level design with the devs. We love that level.
Who's we? Respect your opinion but who's we?
@@thebipedalsquid charger main right there
@@Noebody6970 I will now blame charger mains for the horrendous stage designs in Splatoon 3, they're literally made for chargers and the Hydra/Naut.
【ｐｒｏｍｏｓｍ】 🏃
Great video! I hope Nintendo actually does something like this, though we can only hope 🥲