CPAP with a Beard: IMPROVE SLEEP by stopping Mouth Leaking
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Video for our bearded friends. Some of our mouth leaking solutions won't work for some people. This won't work for everyone, but this is another possible solution to mouth leaking that has worked very well for a large number of people.
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Thanks for the material developed by years, man. You really improved my sleep quality.
Because of you, I have been using cover roll stretch since day 1 of my CPAP delivery and have had perfect adherence scores 6-months later. Happy with the results, but miss my beard since I need to shave. Thank You!
I use the 3" Cover Roll tape...works a treat. I've been curious about the denture cream though...thanks for the video!
THANK YOU for this suggestion Jason. I tried the Cover Roll tape which works well to stick lips together, but don't like the fact that it's permeable and lets a little air in and out. I like to sleep on my back and still get a dry mouth with this tape in place because it stretches enough to let my lips separate slightly, even with a soft cervical collar, and thus allows that little bit of airflow through it, which adds up over the night. So I reverted to the one method that seems to work for me - put lips together, cover acroos mouth with a piece of one and a half inch wide athletic tape (Walgreen's...cheap) and then wrap a length of inch and a half wide self adhesive stretch bandage (like the stuff they put on after you have blood drawn - it's cheap online also) over the athletic tape and lapped a couple of inches in back of the neck to secure it, which keeps the non-breathable athletic tape in place all night.
Perfect timing. My masking tape got saliva under my bottom lip, unstuck and while I thought I was sleeping all night, the fact I had to freeze my tongue and use a Bosch Bulldog (hammer drill) with a wide, heated chisel to unstick it from the roof of my mouth was an instant clue I hadn't. Planned to remodel kitchen all day.
No concentration and all yawns, so I just took a useless 1 hr nap. Leaked again. Very disappointed because I had just replaced my AirFit P30i and expected wake up revived. I'm going to try that tape.
This really works! I'm allergic to most tape adhesives. Best sleep after using fixodent. Hot water and wash cloth get it off. Thanks for the tip!!! Pkw
Congrats on another great video man! Enjoying learning some amazing new cpap tricks from my Yoda ;-)
Yoda?!? 😂 We still need to do a collaboration. It could be fun, informative, entertaining, a complete disaster......it would be awesome!
Thanks Jason. I had to shave my beard off to use the tape you recommended. It worked wonderfully. I used the tape for about a year until I realized that I didn’t have a mouth leak problem anymore. I have since regrown my beard with very few incidents of mouth leak over the last year. I will give the denture cream a try if mouth leaks become a problem again. Thanks for your very useful videos on CPAP.
Thanks Lefty. I am a mouth leaker and have a severe dry mouth. I also have facial hair and a STRONG CHIN. I may try the Fixodent.
Hi I’m a CPAP user of early four years in I just love your videos good information plus a good laugh 😆🙏🫦🇦🇺
I am so glad I sleep with my mouth closed, lol. I do, however, clench my teeth terribly, so there's that. I hope this helps people, looks like it works!
You can try a mouth guard like they use for athletics...
New at the cpap thing and was wondering what kinds of wipes other than mask wipes can be used? Thanks for all the videos that are helping a newbie!
Steve
Please do a video review on this solution I have been using for years: I buy a pack of polyester/spandex or cotton/spandex headbands from amazon. Instead of putting them on my head, I put it over my mouth around the back of my head below my ears and over my cheeks. It doesn't 100% seal like tape, but for some odd reason, it totally works. If I forget to use it, I leak like crazy and wake up with dry mouth. Reusable, washable, cheap, and no glue residue, no taste, no cleanup, works with or without a beard, and no panic from not being able to open your mouth or breathe. I do not know WHY it works (seems counter intuitive that air permeable fabric would work), but do give it a try/review.
Thanks for this suggestion.
Sleeping in the fowler position works very well for me ... In that position and with the collar on, my face is parallel to the wall, so I place a large sponge between my chest and chin and that, in addition to preventing my head to go forward, also keeps the mouth closed without squeezing it. The pressure that is needed also drops exponentially with this position and it is much easier to exhale ...
Thanks for this tip! I'm using another denture fixator which is available in the EU, the main difference being that it hardens. The advantage of that is that it's very easy to get off in the morning, it's just a single solid piece, leaving zero residue. The disadvantage is that it can't be resealed - if I forcibly open my mouth, it will come off and will not reattach. It will also rip out any facial hair it happens to stick onto. Ouch. I've learned to trim properly, or suffer the consequences. 😉
I've been using a CPAP for 20 years and have tried almost everything to get a good nights sleep but I don't think I'll try tooth paste. What I have found is I now shave about every other day. You see, I used to have a mustache and beard, not any more. That was about 50% of my problem now that my pressure has been increased, I leak air through my mouth exactly as you demonstrated. A chin strap, yuck, it hurts. You can't sleep with crap wrapped around your head. I guess I'll try some of that stretchy stuff you talked about. I'll let ya' know.
I thought you had lost you mind a few months ago when you made you mouth tape video. But in my quest for a better night's sleep I tried it and now I prefer it tape my mouth. I use a full face mask and would wake up with sever dry mouth, but that doesn't happen anymore when I mouth tape. Thanks for the videos.
I hope you make a video on mask leak prevention. That is my biggest problem now.
I love this comment because it's exactly how I looked at taping when I first heard of it. "Those fools have lost their damn minds."
But......I wouldn't use tape with a FFM. In that case you just want to "block" your jaw to prevent jaw drop. This is the likely source of the dry mouth with a FFM.
That cover roll tape does work awesome! I've been using it for a few weeks now. Thanks man!
And I put it right over my beard. F-it.
Savage!!!
Is that the same tape as Hypafix? Bc hypafix sticks okay to my beard/mustache/face hairs, just gotta be careful taking it off!
I don't know anything about hypafix. The Cover Roll sticks to my face and beard but not so much that its difficult to remove. It's not pleasant to remove but it's better than the feeling of choking on my throat all night and not breathing. It doesn't even feel like there's tape on my face with Cover Roll. I tried other medical tapes and they were okay but they blew open and were less comfortable. The Cover Roll is wide. It let's your skin breathe. It doesn't leave sticky residue on my lips like the others did. I'm not sure if it will work in the winter with dry chapped lips but I've been sleeping great lately so I'll take it.
Love ya work (Legoman voice) "Jason" your a legend. I have beard and I use a narrow 3M paper tape. It never gets my hairs as its only sitting on my actual lips. It's 1cm wide, ( just under half inch) it does the trick.... Buddy!
This tape has been a miracle for my sleep. But I have to scrunch my lips together before I tape, and I have to double tape (tape on top of tape). Then Oscar is 100% happy and so am I. In rural Montana we have a lot of power failures so I designed a solar battery backup system with a 12V adapter for my Resmed Airsence 10 Autoset. Don’t care for power losses with my mouth taped although I would probably survive. Have always loved the Mask Bright! Thanks again for the taping tip!
I have a big ass beard. But I use a full face mask. Doesn’t matter if your mouth comes open while your sleeping. Works great. Just wanted to pass this along. I could never use the nasal mask. My mouth falls open quite easily while sleeping.
I use 2" 3m micropore tape - with a beard. The edges around my mouth are trimmed and provide enough surface for
it to work. The thing to note is *you can forcibly make it come loose enough to yawn through* - but it keeps your lips together. I think people get hung up thinking too much about the *tape* making a seal, when really *it only needs to hold your lips together*.
So do I, and it works great! My wife found a 2pk on Amazon for half the price
@@bobstrawn4994 I buy it on Amazon in a box of 8 rolls.
Beard only, or beard + moustache? In the latter case, I find it hard to get 3M Micropore tape to properly stick. It does stick to the lips, but not much else.
Hey sir! Question, I’ve been a full face CPAP user since 2015. Recently had success mouth taping and I wanna try a nasal mask and tape. Before I couldn’t due to mouth leak. Which nasal mask/pillows would you recommend? Thank you and love your informative videos!!
Thanks.. I have the same question. I've been using a full face and it leaks due to drooling. I would like to use the mouth tape and try a nasel mask. Let me know if you tried it and if it worked.
Hey Jason, is your Mask Bright safe to use on the AirTouch F20 memory foam cushion?
I’ve been using your tape trick for months now, and it works 100% for me. Thanks so much for your advice. Great videos as usual
No, it’s only meant for silicone and plastics. Can use it on greasy oily hands too.
Memory foam I wouldn’t even wipe down. I don’t with my airtouch N20.
@@Freecpapadvice thank you Jason! With the use of the cover roll tape I don’t slobber anymore, so it barely gets dirty , as I also wash my face real good before I put it on. sometimes I just wipe it really lightly with a baby wipe and I’ve been getting over three months of use on the same mask because I keep using it until I don’t get 100% leak free performance
I do really appreciate your prompt reply, enjoy your day!
Okay having the same problem as everybody else with air leaking out my mouth I tried this fixodent last night and I still had some minor leak issues definitely did not like the way it felt the next morning. But I will give you a tip on getting it off I used an old soft toothbrush and hot water and that help get it off pretty quick. I think I still need my chin strap a little tighter and I might try it one more time. I sure wish I could find a face mask that worked for me but none of them do and yes I have a goatee and it's short and neatly trimmed
How do you get the tape off your mouth without tearing the skin off? I have lots of sores around my mouth from using tape.
Can you do a video on the double-sided boil and bite mouthguards. I sleep with a nasal mask and I use a chin strap to try to keep my mouth shut nothing works I have a beard tape doesn't work I tried the denture cream I'm serious to know more about the mouthguard which one to buy do they still leak air out the front or are they closed off before I start spending money on any of these things. I really appreciate your help and your videos thank you very much
Hey Anthony, I'm in the same boat as you...Did you end up finding a mouthguard that worked? Or anything else?
I use a full face, f30i, I have a full beard. I still wake up in the middle of the night with dry mouth. I use xylimelts, biotine gel, humidity and heat set to max. My chin drops then I guess my cheeks puff out. I've tried the neck collar, can't get used to it, also tried chin strap, can get used to it either and it messes with by TMJ. I guess I'll try this... I thought using a full face would solve the issues totally but nope...
Ah now I understand your reference to having a beard to cover my weak chin 2:48 on our zoom call. The tape is weird feeling but really does help. But don't be like me and leave the humidity up, mine was set to 5 causing drool on the tape. I put it at 1 and boom no issues. Thanks Jason!
I thought we agreed on 2 for humidifier. WTF JAMES?!?!?
🤣🤣 Yeah, once I said the "weak beard" comment I got the distinct feeling that the comment was not welcome. James....your chin is strong as hell. 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
@@Freecpapadvice i just wasn't expecting it and didn't understand the context also i don't hide facial expressions well at all lol.
@@Freecpapadvice what’s the solution for person feeling like they on a ventilator with a auto ramp 4-15 but could only stand 2 hours at a time with little sleep. Just most unnatural breathing I ever had. Gave up in a month with three different mask. What’s the answer?
If only I could get a new machine after the recall
I'm kind of new to your page, so maybe you've covered this already. If you get a lot of mouth leaks why not use a full face mask? I have a lot of allergy issues in my nose get stuffed up a lot so I've been using a full face mask for many years.
Jacob, I tried all kinds of masks and have settled on a full face mask, because it helps me keep my mouth shut. Now I am using the mask with memory foam, the ResMed AirTouch F20.
FF can be a challenge to get a good seal especially with a beard, and managing drool (lol). I heard the Resmed AirTOUCH F20 with the foam cushion can be good for beards - I've only tried the Dreamwear FF so I'll have to look into it!
Nasal breathing is healthier. Mouth breathing in sleep can make you inhale air into your stomach giving you gas 💨
Yucky... Full Face Masks cause you to swallow air at a rapid rate and actually dries out your mouth...
Most quit using their C-paps cus they have to use a Full Face Mask...
Try a simple chin strap under your nasal gear...
The incoming air will keep your passages open as you sleep... Mine always close up after I take it off...
Also, don't have the air too warm or cold coming in...
Just about air temperature that you normally breathe is fine... Adjust your humidity too... Too much and you'll think ( in your sleep ) that you're drowning 😳
We need to promote Stuart and bleep and get everyone’s mouth shut and zero leaks will be normal.
I used the tape you have at your recommendation. Works wonders. I also use it to tape my grandma. She sleep with oxygen and I tape her oxygen hose to her cheeks so that she doesn't remove it at night. She has Alzheimer's so she doesn't understand she needs that or else she'll die. Anyway, thanks for the tips :)
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Still WAITING on any info from Dream Station. Phillips just going to ignore everyone?
Listerine on a washcloth to get it off?
Yes, that works... But, just a non antiseptic mouth wash works better...
OR a Warm Rag...
I've been using tape for the past couple of months. It's been really helpful, but I'm a side-sleeping drooler (gross) and the tape doesn't keep my mouth completely sealed once my saliva overwhelms it during the night. I'm going to give fixodent a try...
I had the same issue with a tape that had an one inch width or so. I switched to a larger tape width tape, in my case cover and roll or something. It solved that problem.
@@shaym7309 thanks for sharing. I use the 2" wide tape and still have issues!
If you're getting excessive drool, try turning the humidifier down or off (if it's even on). Also, Cover Roll Stretch tape by BSN is by far the best (and least expensive) tape available.
@@Freecpapadvice Thanks for the suggestion. My humidifier setting is on 2, but it's also set to adaptive. I'll try turning it off.
@@parkernoble2291 getting the right climate settings is the worst thing about cpap!
Have you tried mouthwash to get it off? Alcohol makes short work of some adhesives.
Would be interesting to know which nasal pillow mask you are using?? I need to replace mine as wife complains about the jetstreem from my mask on her. I like my mask, Resmed fx swift. Which way to go???
Dreamwear Nasal Cushion or nasal plugs...
Even if your lips stay shut don’t the chipmunk cheeks wreck sleep too?
If you can keep your tongue in the roof of the mouth especially in the hollow area it will drastically decrease mouth leak. Good luck. I'm allergic to tape glue.
You are correct Matt, but this doesn't work for everyone. Put the tongue up there and swallow and it creates a vacuum.
@@Freecpapadvice The obvious problem is for those who talk in their sleep. Just no total solution. Keep trying!
Why did ya stop covering the foam recall ?
Two answers:
1. I don't know that I stopped covering it. There just isn't any new information that I'm aware of. I know they get a TON of views....but if I were to make another one, it would be more on navigating specific aspects of it. This I do plan on doing.
2. I've been on a pseudo-vacation....then on an actual vacation. Just back this week.
@@Freecpapadvice gotcha ✌️ been missing ya lately. I went ahead and removed all the foam outta my bi-pap M series ,after getting sick for 2 days from I suspect food poisoning during which I used my machine constantly trying to sleep off sickness I awoke to spitting up blood .after going to er and establishing it wasn't covid I returned home and opened up my machine and was mortified at what I found. Long story short I removed all foam and re engineered blower assembly ,it's been 10days since and it's working great. However I did have a CT scan today and it's kinda disturbing. Next is a pet scan I believe. But anyway Drs are telling people to continue using machines. People need to get the crap out but many are crippled with fear of loosing warranty coverage. It baffles me .it wasn't hard to re engineer the assembly without foam .I'd love to hear your thoughts/show everyone how to do it. I've got picks of what was in mine ,cracked and degraded foam all over and a oily residue on floor of machine right in air path. Thanks for all you do brother ✌️
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@@boobtubeakatv1296 to say the least✌️
I scampered right out and bought some Fixodent to try this... My opinion (and opinions will vary) is that I can't recommend it at all... It didn't stop the air from blasting through the corners of my mouth and cleanup was a **hellacious** chore! That stuff does not want to come off. It's got to be the most waterproof substance on the face of the earth!! Trying to scrub it off just smeared it all over everything -- fingers, teeth, lips (inside and out) gums. It defies water and washing. The only way I could get it off was with a toothbrush+soap+hotwater. Then the toothbrush was loaded with the goop and only fit for the trashcan. And I still didn't get it all... At one point, I was seriously eyeballing the wife's acetone fingernail polish remover.
I am so sorry for what I'm about to do........😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
How much did you put on!?!?
@@Freecpapadvice About as much as you did in the video. Like you said, it might work for some, but it sure ain't for me. I was feeling that Fixodent "sheen" coating everything for hours after I tried scrubbing it off. I was thinking... maybe swishing around some cheap gin or vodka might help get it gone, but that could lead to it's own hijinks too, so... hmmm. Definitely needs a solvent with more horsepower than "soap & water" though.
You had me, right up to the how to get it off part. LOL
Warm water and a soft toothbrush and it comes off pretty easy. I did not and will not use soap LOL
Eww….but if it works I guess it’s worth a shot! That’s a real purty mouth …. (that’s for all the chinless types) lol
dont get it a full face mask works for me thank god!!!
I will have you know Sir, I tried this and all went well until one night I mistook my Preparation H for Fixodent!
I now can only eat through a swizzle stick and have had to endure a never-ending series of jokes at my expense about me being an ass-face!
YOU HAVE RUINED MY CAREER AS A LIP MODEL!
My lower lip starts to stick out and quiver at just the thought of the ridicule I've had to endure.
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Ok I would rather just be dead than live like this 😂 Putting tape on my face and smearing gobs of glue on my mouth every night and dealing with the cleanup every morning just so I can wear my space helmet to bed every night...yeah I would rather take the L
Bushy man muff?
Did I miss something? The title is "CPAP with a Beard," and your advice is to shave the beard, really?
Yes, you did miss something.....it's if you don't want to do that try a denture cream on your lips. That said.....I have another video coming exploring some other options for bearded folks.
Gee, I've been doing that for years... Thought it was common sense 😳
Extra Hold works better, and mint flavored is good...
Just a wet rag with warm water works great getting it off... It won't hurt you all if you just lick it off 👀🤣🤪
PS... Ya really didn't have to act like a wus ... It's educational 👅
Ever see a science video on human sexuality in school ???
hideous!