Mars Hydro FC-8000 PAR & ePAR Tests and Review
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- The new Mars-Hydro FC-8000 is the biggest and possibly the best fixture from Mars.
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The FC series are the top end fixtures from Mars-Hydro. They feature Samsung LM301b and Osram 660nm diodes. With 800 watts of power the FC-8000 can light up a 5x5 grow space and melt a 4x4. I run PAR and ePAR tests with Apogee SQ-500 and SQ-610 Quantum Sensors. It creates some of the best 4x4 and 5x5 PAR and ePAR maps that I have seen! I explain how to use it for growers with and without supplemental carbon dioxide.
Congrats to "Wonka WillE", winner of the giveaway!
Find the complete test report and the Grow Light Calculator in the www.cocoforcannabis.com/ Grow Light Guide.
I conduct independent and impartial grow light testing. I present the data that I gather during my tests. The opinions and recommendations that I offer are based on my experience with indoor horticulture and horticultural lighting.
The manufacturer provided me with the light fixture to test and review. I always retain the right to give honest opinions about the products that I review. I do not offer manufacturers exclusivity or give them any editorial control over my reviews. The opinions and analysis are my own.
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Looks like an awesome light! Really liking Mars Hydro’s bar style light lineup!
Gotta disagree about the research suggesting that 1,000 PPFD is the safe upper range of light that Cannabis can handle though. The research actually shows that Cannabis has no light saturation point (at least up to 2,000 PPFD which to my knowledge is the most that researchers in clinical trials have subjected it to and I personally know people that have gone as high as 4,000 PPFD under LEDs).
If you read the research paper published by the University of Mississippi you’ll see that it showed that the Peak Photosynthesis rate in the leaves was reached at 1500 PPFD and 30C/86F at ambient CO2 levels, but the researchers actually found that the rate of transpiration continued to increase up to 2,000 PPFD.
What the study actually showed was not that Cannabis requires supplemental CO2 beyond 1500 PPFD (let alone 1,000 PPFD, which is kind of an absurd limit when you consider that sunlight regularly reaches 2,000 PPFD and Cannabis evolved as a Full Sun plant), but instead that CO2 is required when leaf surface temps exceed 30C/86F; which is likely why indoor growers mostly growing under HPS light which emit considerable radiant heat downwards into the plant canopy came to believe that 1,000 PPFD was the safe limit to use without the need for supplemental CO2.
This study on the other hand actually tested dry inflorescence yield and found that, while leaf Peak Photosynthesis did seem to top out at 1500 PPFD, actual inflorescence/flower weight yield continue to increase linearly all the way up to 1,800 PPFD and even up to 2,000 PPFD. And this was done at atmospheric/ambient CO2 levels.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8144505/
Thanks for the video and review though. ✌️
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Stop your myopic views already.
Bullocks
@@fragelicious if by “myopic” you mean “scientifically validated through Peer Reviewed research”, then…no. 😉😁
Go read through those studies yourself if you don’t believe me. ✌️
@@Steveshappylittletrees I think you mean “bollucks” as in “nonsense”?
But, again, go read through the Peer Reviewed studies I linked to above if you don’t believe what I’m saying. 🤷🏻♂️
Dr MJ Coco you, by far, put out the most well laid out and comprehensive information on lighting that I have came across in years. Thanks for your hard work and diligent research! Keep up the good work👍 Always look forward to your vids. btw... Your web site and calculators are fantastic!
I am honored! Thank you. I really appreciate the support!
I totally agree, together with migro the only two testers that are worth mentioning by far !!
@@DrMJCoco sir I was just notified that I won the fc 8000. I can't believe this to be true. Can you verify this for me. Please and thank you
@@littlenugs9942 it’s a scam. Don’t reply
@@erickoechling9307 thought so who's going to leave there number to call
Man... Way To Many People Now-a-days On The Internet Be like "This Grow Light Isn't Good Enough",
"That Grow Light Sucks", "Dont Buy This Light!"... Man, 5-10 Years Ago It Was Just Cool As Hell To Even Own A Grow Light Period! Everyone Is So Snobby..
I Would Love To Run & Test A Grow Light Like This In My Grow Area 💚🌿
Thank You, Dr. MJCoco, For All The Hard Work You Do To Inform Others Of How Lights Preform! & Helping Others Know The Best Way To Use Each Grow Light at Home! 💚🌿 Much Love 💯
What grow light are you actually using? Well if you are spending 10-20 for a pop of beans, and running every quarter of the year, i guess youll know whats a good catch, its cool what comments on grow lights, it gives the brand some check and balance. Its actually the.same 5-10 years ago, it was actually worst back then, since the.debate doesnt end from HPS, MH, LED etc users...
@@stephen9280 i currently have two TS-1000s, two SP-3000s, a FC3000 & a Ts-3000
@@transcendskatemedia9085 Actually not a bad light but youd be on the same page after trying some higher end brands, its like getting your PHD in light science LOL. Id say spiderfarmer though is a red flag when it comes to after sales services you have to watch out for them, although i personally havent tried there lights and my buddy who is a known seed breeder used one unit i know that shit gets hot, which i did order an inline fan from them with a missing parts and they just gave me a middle finger like literally tells me to move on that the itemz are working and complete yada yada...At least Mars Hydro replaced a month used unit. For my budget backup vegging plant i personally used Geekbeast, id also like to try kingbrite and meijiu next if given i have the time. Question have you tried going full power with your lights on summer?
Dr. MJ Coco Just want to say thanks
you go above and beyond when it comes to testing lights
Dr. MJ Coco reviews are amazing! MJ Coco and MIGRO are the best reviewers for the top lights on RUclips! You are a pro.
This guy make complicated topics make sense. Great teacher and 271
I picked 619 - I WON!!!! I'm SO stoked! :)
Congrats did you message him
Oh damn!! You left the live stream!!!!!! That's a no no! I'm so so sorry! I shouldn't be the one telling you but since been few hours since you commented and Noone told you. I will you left the chat or whatever he gave to another person because you weren't there to claim it and say yes to get things going didn't know if you'd come back and notice so he gave to another I'm sorry
If you don't believe me you can still see live chat just watch last 3 minutes and click live chat button by the like button and read the comments 😞 sorry
@@miker5700 I was watching the premiere on my laptop, but right before they announced the winninng number my elderly father, whom I care for was hollering at me for help in the other room. I was only gone a couple minutes & my bf called to tell me I won (I chose my birthday 6/19 and I was trying to win it for my bf) We were on the phone and he was giving me the email so I could claim it, but it was given to someone else while we were talking. The crew at Coco For Cannabis was so kind, they offered me a smaller light instead. So I won a $600 prize and lost it all in 5 minutes. I've never been to Vegas but now I dont have to go cuz I know what it feels like. 🤣 Seriously though Dr. MJ Coco was supercool about all this & it's much appreciated.
@@TenaciouskInk yea thats so cool I talked to Dr a few minutes ago and he told me what he did thats cool how that worked out for you he's a good guy. Atleast this way you walk away happy so still need that trip to la... lol. I also won light from him too! Hopefully ypur bf enjoys it. So I guess 🤷 congratulations 🎊 lol
Hands down the most detailed information. Thank you for your help 🙏
I've picked up alot of knowledge reading Dr. Coco. I appreciate the detailed explanations. Keep up the great work.
Thank you! Grower Love
HE never did how to dry n cure at the end of the grow.
Another amazing review of an astounding light. You keep outdoing yourself!
Thanks for the 5x5 data.
I'm a mammoth LED guy and your videos showing performance and price point of this model has me looking to them for my next purchase. Plan on running a side by side and documenting it on my channel.
Woooooooooow what an amazing light!!!! I have a 5x5 and need to upgrade lol I currently have a 3x3 with spiderfarmer SE5000 I just got a month ago. But now I need to get a bigger light in my 5x5. Hopefully spiderfarmer keeps me longer than the 4mth sponsorship! 💚 Lol great video
Hey Dr.MJ. There is a light sold here in Germany called "SANlight Q-Serie". I dont know if you ever heard about it, but sellers do promote it as the #1 light. i love your guides and brought the MH sp3000 because of it...great light so far... greetings.
Been a fan of mars hydro for years 😁😎
This is the light I need in my future
So good. that is the light right there. Damn 619 is my area code.
2 of these sure would look nice in my 5x10 😁
Used your discount code for my FC 4800
Great video! Thanks for the knowledge! Please review medic grow smart 8 and medic grow spectrum x. Thanks!
Nice light
I’m getting one soon.
Best light yet!
i was going to use my bithdate...........6-19..... never heard him say when to put down number....OH WELL, Its not like ive ever won anything before.
COGRATS TO THE WINNER
420 those would fit perfect in my grow room flower side.
Mars- Hydro FC-8000 in a 4x4 is what I call HANGIN AND BANGIN.
it’s called
overkill actually
@@Kevin-qg5mkI agree, it is perfect for a 5 by 5 but you don't need this much light for a 4 by 4!
@Dr MJ Coco Looks like you are going to be super busy, even AC Infinity is coming out with new lights.
Ya and they look amazing especially eh controller aspect seen a video of one they look promising
Woulda been one heck of light for my new 4x4 grow I’m about to start from all those Black Friday sales
could you tell me what amount of heat builds up in your 4x4 with this light and the driver mounted outside ?, looking for 2 lights to fill a 4x8 and would like to keep down on the a/c , would rather use the electricity to add more light, thank you and your work is exactly how it should be done and explained
What light wish I wouldn’t of missed the live video dang alert didn’t go off
I didnt see you mention what the par map would be in a 5x5 at 12 inches and 75%. Would that be better than the 6500 at 100%?
Can you use this light for the Veg and Bloom cycles?
Can you test the Mars-Hydro FC-E8000 next?
A little more info If you run that light in a 4x4 tent without side bracing and you have negative pressure in your 4x4 the sides would be sucked into the light...so will need to brace sides of the 4x4 tent 1st...
I would love to see a review of this unit compared to the FC-E8000 which uses the good but less $$ BridgeLux LEDs and is significantly cheaper.
Would love to see the floraflex 8 bar light
Please do the FC-E8000 even better price /photon!!!!!!!! Just got can’t wait to see results.
Nice 👍 bro let's get it done Mich here
710 for the win
Is this light as good as the lumatek zeus pro 600w ?
Does the FC-E 8000 with BRIDGELUX LEDs shine less brightly? Are BRIDGELUX diodes themselves worse than Samsung diodes?
Dr MJ has a review of the fc-e6500 and the 4800 you might go check that out and he has review of the fc-6500 and a couple other in that series so might get some more insight if watch them. He really liked the fc-e6500 i remember he was really surprised by it.
Both lights will be good the fce has like 1000 more diodes even tho bridgelux might not be ""as good and last as long"" with that many more and same watts will drastically increase life of diodes so they will last long time probably same amout of time. I think either one you'll have great results with
So do I HAVE to use supplemental c02 for this? What if I don’t.
Not at all! From these numbers co2 would help slightly at full power in a 4x4 tent. In a 5x5 the numbers drop below the co2 threshold where it wouldn't really help at all. If you don't want to run c02, which most people will never do anyway, just save some power and run it at 75%, full power in a 4x4 likely wont hurt much but its a waste of money and is just going to make temps higher and put unneeded wear on the light.
Mars Hydro FC-8000 or Photontek XT 1000W?
Hi can you do a par text in a 4x4 at 3ft and 4ft hanging heights
i like your channel , you havea new sub . great light , dont like the wiring on this FC series ,its a bit messy & needs tidying up .
The wiring on mine literally melted at the connection between the driver and light. I would buy a light from a legit company and not worry about burning your home down.
Looks good , but have they improved there customer service ?
😕???
If I was putting this light in a 5x5 would I still need co2?
this is all im looking for........
I used this light for about a year, then the power connection between the light/driver melted. Lights started flickering and luckily I smelled burning plastic or could have been a fire. Just pay the extra couple hundred dollars for a real light.
When your testing these lights the leds are working at different intervals. They are never all on full power 100% of time. You would have to hack your grow light and sacrifice it's lifespan to get a real test. Or run the test multiple times in each square until you finds its highest and lowest value. You can see the changes in voltage per led with good eyes.
I can not see your par maps.
The green and red flow together.
Ip65 water/ dust resistant?
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Why dim and not raise? The light would be more even and the lower leaves would get more light.
Far red may increase internode length
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Can u explain for idiot like me I have 5x5 white tent so I need 23in dim at 100% power for Flowering? What about veg still 23in but 50%? Can some one explain this to me or there is any map that show inch and power for every steep seed..Veg... Flower... Thx am new grower
From what I gathered:
100% intensity = Flower
75% intensity = Veg
50% intensity = Seedling)
What was the winning #?
Test a aglex 2000w cob
How to win the Light 💡 contest ?
During the live premiere you will have a chance to guess the winning number in the chat
@@DrMJCoco I picked 619 - the winning number in the chat & you gave it to someone else before I could send the email to claim it. I'm very disappointed. :(
@@TenaciouskInk unfortunately you were not present when the winner was announced. We tried to alert you. The prize was claimed by another viewer, but I am going to see if there is anything we can do for you.
@@DrMJCoco I totally understand. I explained in my email what happened & I received a very kind reply from Jordan offering me another light. I was trying to win this for my boyfriend & I've never won anything before, so I'm just tickled pink. THANK YOU so much for being so cool. Def gonna spread the word for you as much as I can. :)
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It's this or a couple SP 3000's.
Dang got the email late about this
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Why is over 1000 micromoles bad?
I bought or at least I thought I was buying an Easy 8 light from Medic Grow on your recommendation and all they did was snatch my money 💰 > so it would be nice if I could win this light
If you had an issue with Medic Grow, you can reach out to me. Use the contact form on our website.
But Yes - Good Luck with the Giveaway
i had to stop payment on them
💚#1luv4dabud 👍
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It’s a pity they still use the cheap Chinese driver, why not use a quality Mean Well driver ?
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Dont buy led from marshydro
I got fc-e8000 smart and after 5 days 1 led Bar is Not working and Support dont answere
So Mars-Hydro is ridiculous. I found these lights at a cheaper price on the web, contacted Mars-Hydro for a price match, and they are making their subsidiary increase the price! Also, their website won’t allow a shipping and billing address and they want you to make a bank transfer, forget a credit card. Not a company to do business with in my mind.
Do not purchase any products from marshydro . I purchased the fc6500 had the light 3 months it broke and there customer service is horrible . Long story short not worth trying to save a few bucks .
I got a lot of sp3000, and they're absautuitly fine the only issue is- light 2 m of cable ballast 2 m cable plug - but apart from that Mars hydro is up there with the best and for the price there really cheap compared to the rest of the top lights , you can't compline mate ,or go buy some overpriced ones and crack on
My FC3000 has been working fine for a year now, no complaints here.
I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but I run Mars lights and many others do with great experiences. If you have problems with customer service, you are always welcome to reach out to me. Grower Love!
They have a 5 year warranty.
i had a problem with one of their lights and they offered a used one which i took or i would of been out of luck
That wiring diagram should have been rejected at project manager level and the engineer talk to sternly! Ughhhh, that light's so impressive then blame they allowed that octopus harness, it's really just hideous ruin's the 10 I was willing to give it just because! I'm borderline ADHD so yeah I just can't live with that. I feel it's a potential failure point too
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