Justice League 2021 vs 2017 | Batman Recruits Flash Comparison | Zack Synder vs Joss Whedon Cut
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- Опубликовано: 20 янв 2025
- Batman Recruits Flash Comparison
Zack Synder vs Joss Whedon Cut
Justice League 2021 vs 2017
#ZackSynderJusticeLeague #ZackSynder #BatmanRecuitsFlash
![Old Bruce Wayne vs Barry Allen | THE FLASH [4k, HDR]](/img/1.gif)
In the Snyder Cut, just before Barry says “stop right there, I’m in!”, you can hear the static effect they use whenever he runs. He used the Speed Force to pause and think it over
Wow
Well that's something else
But instead, enjoy this moment where he instantly scribbles on a dude’s face!
Naw man, you're just overthinking this.
That’s a nice detail, never noticed it
Snyder: “Stop right there, I’m in.”
Whedon: *B* *R* *U* *N* *C* *H*
Bruhnch
Snyder: "Stooooooooooooooooooooooooooop riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggght theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeereeeeeeee, IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIImmmmmmmmmmm iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnn
@@jwj4535 id rather watch a snyder movie that is all 10 hour slowmo than whedon movie that is 10 min but has brunch scenes
@@aguuug5139 and I had rather shoot one of my leegs than drinking lava
I did find it relatable for the brunch thing tho lol
Alternate Reality:
Batman: “I know you have abilities, I just don’t know what they are.” *Throws batarang*
Aquaman: “Well, I can talk to fis-“
Underrated comment. I can't stop laughing.
edit: Well this thread blew up, nevermind.
Welp, he ded. 😂
This is hilarious
This is worse than the Knightmare reality.
lol
You're telling me that both scenes are equal in length, but in one I got to see more badass flash speed and in the other we got a very long joke about brunch.
Bingo.
Nah they just made the slow mo longer
@@daveagard1884 usually I'd agree that its dumb, but this is the flash. It's kinda necessary to show his full potential
*A very long and terrible joke about brunch.
Finally... a comment that got the point
Zack likes to drag out scenes of super powers being shown off, but atleast he dosen't try to hard to throw in "funny lines" like brunch that just fall flat
So just show the powers the main thing of movie
I know. There were so many slow Mo in the movie. I feel like it could have easily been a 3 or 3.5 hour movie with a tight editing
@@jojosoni6355 Would've killed the breathing room and pace though.
@@gilbertgotfried hmm....but i still think there wasn't need of THAT many slow mo. i like them, but using it at every other opportunity makes their impact low.
The slomos are not actually bad since its cool and its a showcase of superpowers, but i agree that this could be editted to 3.5 hours, too many staring, walking and pan out shots.
Dragged out cool scenes are still cool but dragged out scenes are just scenes.
I like how in Snyder’s cut, the lightning doesn’t start until Barry moves. It’s a small touch, but it helps differentiate that he doesn’t only *move* fast, he *is* fast, thinks fast, sees fast.
Same thing happens in both, it's just that Barry pauses a little bit before dodging in the snyder cut
Flash is speed itself.
It's kinda weird because even when he didn't move before going to save Iris we saw lightning around him.
its actually mathematical since nobody moves while slowing time nothing happens but if barry moves while slowing time = so fast that lightnings come out awesome little touch
he fastiin
It's cool for Barry to realize "Yo... that's batman" while he's in the speedforce rather than after the fact.
Totally gives us Barry's super fast mind set
He’s not in the speed force, he’s just moving fast.
It's a crime how much was cut from this film
Literally lol. If Bruce was wrong then this so called “speedster” would have been 6ft under thinking to himself “Damn.. What the hell?!”
Another interesting aspect is that it seems, in Snyder's cut, that Barry is debating whether he should show his speed or not as seen by him staring at the Batarang and back at Bruce. Overall, seems like a more natural interaction.
I love this scene, I like how Barry's face changes from a goofy dork to a serious one when Bruce launches the batarang at him. He contemplates the batarang and then he realizes it that is The Batman in his man-cave. Awesome scene.
Man-cave 😂
I kept reading Bruce as Brunch and it took me longer than usual to fix that in my head.
@@ishigami5071 ă
Is this Barry's personal lair?
Wow, you understood the scene!
That extra time he takes to analyze the batarang just gives you the feeling that people in that universe find batman truly mystifying & legitimately terrifying in this version. Like all the scary stories Barry had heard about him as a kid all turned out to be true in that very moment.
“wHaT iS bRUNcH?”
*joss Whedon typing the scriptJoss: “ok that is fucking brilliant.”
The man had short time to make a movie from a bunch of footage what do you expect. Anyway he smashed the Avengers movie and i think that's a bigger W than the L he took with Justice League
@@overheatedeskim054 What did we expect?
How about not adding shitty jokes into the movie? How about not making the Flash utterly useless, when he saves the day in the Snyder Cut?
Also, the dialogue in Avengers was trash and was only saved by the fact that it the first movie of its kind.
I really hate Marvel humor now.
@@morningwoody4514 You do realize the producers hired him to do that right? Like that was his job? He didnt really have a say in the matter?
Yeah that brunch line was so stupid.
I also like how zack doesn’t make Barry look like a loser, the only reason he doesn’t have friends is because he’s kinda busy being a super hero not because he doesn’t understand brunch
there were so many removed scenes which cemented Barry having a noble heart like his dialogue with him and his dad where he's motivated to prove his dad's innocence by studying criminal justice, or when he saves Iris from the car accident, or him "breaking his rule" of bending time to save the world in the end, etc. the same can also be said for Victor, he was as Zack mentioned the heart of the movie and the Whedon Cut simply nerfed his role
Yeah I'm not trying to be offensive but it seemed like Whedon was trying to make Barry look like he was on the spectrum? Whereas in the Snyder cut he's just awkward
@@athenajaxon2397 ...im on the spectrum and you're totally right. Its like Sheldon from big bang theory bad.
I actually kinda liked that this Barry was a bit awkward and didn't understand people and found them difficult, but the whole brunch thing was stupid.
Edit: Seeing replies to the original comment about the spectrum, I'm on it and yeah, again, the brunch thing was just stupid and unnecessary. I mean I think brunch is dumb as hell but I understand what it is and I wouldn't go on a tangent about it even if I didn't.
@@TheDaxter11 Yeah, i don't mind an awkward Flash. Zack already showed it well enough with his stutter and the "I need.... Friends." Line to show that he's not as "fast" in ordinary life.
Ah yes, the cut everyone has been waiting for: Zach Synder.
Snyder
@@TvGunslingeRvT 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻
You had one job and f.....
@@MrTsuyoshi123 shut up
@@TvGunslingeRvT woooosh
The best part was that Zack showed barry in his speed or should I say "Flashtime" as the CW calls it. A lot more
I mean he appears in the cw so flash time is movie cannon
@@thomasbarton478 multiverse different universes
@@tyjuann3626 since it has been established in Crisis that Ezra's Flash and Grant's Flash both exist in the same timeline.... And Multiverse doesn't exist anymore....So they belong to the same universe now... So now there are 2 Flashes , 2 Superman, 2 Martian Manhunters....
@@rajeshkumarpradhan2574 it does though. The end of crisis has the multiverse restored.
Ezra Miller's Flash teased CW's Flash by "Power of love"
This is a representation of the importance of editing, and how little changes can dramatically change a sequence.
This is powerful
Agreed 🤝. DC needs to kiss Zack Snyder's head and keep him!
Yeah but what is brunch
@@youwaisef I know I might get r/whooshed, but brunch is like a late breakfast/early lunch.
@@sambridgers9543 r/WHOOSH HAHA GOT EM
I love the Zach had Barry stay in flash time longer. You can actually see Barry processing the information he is seeing and coming to a conclusion before he goes back to normal speed.
I love that Bruce immediately "attacks" Barry to test his powers. Such a batman thing to do.
Yeaaa a sharp batarang straight to the head isn't a batman thing to do tho, even tho he knew barry was fast, he didn't know if theres certain condition for him to use his speed, meh im just nitpicking,but i think the shoulder or anywhere else shouldve been a better target from a man that always have a back up plans for his back up plans.
lol that just made me think of him accidently getting a wrong person and sticking a batarang to that stranger's head.
@@romusa10 you see that's batman we are talking about... He has done his homework... He saw the cctv footage already... He won't do such thing without being sure....
This just my opinion but I never really liked how Bruce is like yeah im batman to like complete strangers. From the flash, to aquaman. He just shows up as bruce wayne and reveals hes batman
He already pretty much figured out what powers Barry had, people who aren't comic fans probably ignorant to the fact he is the world's greatest detective. If being intellectually superior is a superpower, he would be the best in the universe.
Zack Snyder reading Whedon’s script: “why the hell is he talking about brunch?”
I don't think zack snyder has ever read whedon's script since nolan forbid zack snyder from ever watch whedon version of justice leauge.
Zack hasn't seen Josstice League
@@wadhwa6 everyone hates the josstice league
Snyder: Eww, I stepped in shit
*Whedon's script*
@@wolfzeru5745 lol
Everyone: Zack cut off the sides of the screen.
Zack: No, Joss cut off the top and bottom.
Exactly! how much interesting detail is lost shrinking the image, 100% with Zack's decision
@@deathbunny8322 and some people don't know, but actually ALL the movies are Just like this, the HD cameras still recording in 4:3 since ever
😮
Good call
@@Leo_F_Paiva they usually record in something like 16:9, but imax is a proprietary aspect ratio that looks like 4:3 so he cropped the whole thing so that he could show the full imax frame without the aspect ratio changing
Imagine if it actually wasn't the flash and batman just kills a dude with a batarang between his eyes. He'd just casually walk away like "oops"
Except Barry was featured in BvS and Bruce being the world's greatest detective, have already figured out his identity and his superpowers. He just wants to see it with his own eyes.
@@handphone77 jeesh it was a joke that's why I said imagine relax 😭
@@handphone77 it’s a joke...
😂
There actually is an animation with this exact same plot
yeah i remember when they baited kpop fans into this but still flopped. glad the whole brunch line was removed, so unnecessary
BUT WHAT IS IT? It's 2021 and I still don't know!
is not removed. that line was filmed by joss whedon
U
Yup. Trying to make him as awkward as possible with the kpop and brunch.
lol i loved it git removed, hate kpop
In zack's cut, I take his "I need friends" not in an awkward way, but in a "I need powerful friends to help my dad" way.
Make sense
Nice. Did not see it this way, thank you.
For me he is just following his dad advice to try to have a normal life. Barry dont have friends cause he is busy trying to study and work and prove his father innocence and he just meet someone like him and saw the oportunity to start making some friends.
@@reidervks2690 or because people are too slow for him
While that's a neat idea, it's definitely not the intention there. It's more that Barry wants to take his dad's advice.
The Synder cut really makes the effort of Flash taking the time to think about what happened and why it happened as it happened to show off his most important power of being able to think things through while he is acting.
Yeah
@@hopper6094 yeah
@@DJHyperRhythm yeah
@@hopper6094 yeah
@@stanlexgreenson yeah
"People are a little slow."
"I'll try to keep up."
I actually liked that exchange. It's that dumbass brunch joke that ruined it for me.
Me too. To me, it kinda implies that Barry is struggling with adapting to his power when trying to be around with normal people.
@@RealEffinNoob Yeah, and it showed that Bruce could be casual with others without being turned into a complete joke.
@@DMS_Shisui And how very relieved he is that Barry accepted haha.
True
Yeah except that dumb big ass smile that Batman has for no apparent reason
This basically the difference between the two versions:
Whedon: he fast lol
Snyder: omg he IS fast
Yo I have s question so I'm new to dc and I'm gonna watch justice league so is the 2017 and 2021 are different but same story?
@@SpazzValid this is what you need to know, 2017 ver. was going to be a snyder movie, but due a personal problem, he quit and josh whedon took the place, resulting to be a different vision of the actual creator and having a different tone. Now the 2021 ver. is the snyder version of the movie, with new escene, some re-recorded and grand changes to the original. So, is the same sotry? Yes but no. Yes cause in fact is the same movie, but no cause the new changes actually changes the grand part of the story. So yeah, i recommend to you the snyder cut over 2017 JL
@@SpazzValid yeah its essentially the same story but the 2017 version is straight up a bad movie no matter how you look at it. Entire storylines were cut out for filler and there were alot of unnecessary jokes that aren't funny whatsoever. The 2021 version is the far superior version but whether its good is really up to you.
Technically they have the same story, slightly different villains, but one is 2 hours and the other is 4 hours long so there OUGHT to be some differences.
I personally say you should watch both for comparision. No word can describe it better than experiencing it yourself.
@@stealthmaster96 basically, this is what happen when you put the first Avengers movie director, to film another first group live action movie but that have a totally different tone. Like bruh how the hell you justify the brunch, the wonder woman and batman ridiculization and everything else 💀💀💀
So happy they took the brunch line out
They didn't take it out. It was never there in the original. Joss Whedon added it during the reshoot.
@@P.Whitestrake cringey tbh
@@farisabdulhakim4462 you know what's cringier? Village women singing lullaby as aquaman goes into the ocean. Urgh.
@@fdlfrs you think it’s cringe that a poor village honors a hero of their people by singing. You’re a child mate
@@lukeberko701 why u startin fights over a opinoin mate ur the child
The scene breathes and the realization that bruce is batman when barry sees the batrang is more Impactful
that lil look he gave like "are u srs?" when bruce threw the batarang
Joss: “bRUnCh”
Zack: n o s c r i p t j u s t s u p e r s l o w m o
@@lay5947 ^^this and it makes zack's flash look so much fastsr
Theatrical:
Snyder Cut: So you’re fast.
what?
@@thedarkknightisrisingup7640 Because the theatrical cut is shorter (gets over faster).
Sorry for explaining the joke
@@okamisensei7270 How? These were roughly the same length. Whedon's spent more time on the brunch joke
@@StupidSystemus They were talking about both movies in general, as a whole. You do know the Snyder Cut is 4 hours, right?
@@StupidSystemus havent you watched the video? like 10 seconds in they are already unbalanced..
Joss & WB tried so hard to be with the in-crowd with the k-pop and quips, while Zack just wanted to show a good superhero story.
Joss and WB trying to make this movie like avengers
And still failed. Its the same core, nothing changed, just some cuts and lines and this core is rotten.
These "superhero" has nothing to do with the source material at all. They're FAR from a good superhero story.
Hope he sees this bro
Zack still added it tho
Good superhero "story" lol ok
JW: He fast
ZS: Here’s how fast.
^^this. All this
In Zack’s version, Bruce’s hair is being blown by the wind after Barry comes out of the speed force. That shows how fast and how powerful Barry is from just a tiny movement. A small inclusion that changed the atmosphere of this scene for the better to me.
Can be electricity maybe?
I fell in love with Zack's treatment of superpowers since I first saw Superman create a sonic boom in Man of Steel. It looks like a tiny detail few people will notice, but adds so much to the scene. Also loved the shockwaves in this movie when superheroes hit full-force. He also knows when not to do it.
@@fahadus, well, in the fight between Flash and Superman they were suspended in the air and it wasn't as brilliant
Y'all analyzing this like it's a math exam lmfap
@@rymle, even more xd
Lmao I love that both clips were incredibly out of sync until “can I keep this?”
They were edited to be in sync tho
They weren't in sync almost the entire time
both the clips end with “can I keep this?” -: This tells us how UNNECESSARY and irrelevant that Joss Whedon footage is.
sounds like annoying kid
The Whedon footage cuts down several of the shots to make room for the stupid brunch joke, so it makes sense they're come together to be a similar length by the end.
Unlike Joss Whedon, Zack Snyder KNOWS that he isn’t funny so he doesn’t try to take risks and make a joke that will make everyone cringe. Respect.
I think a lot of you guys don't understand that while Joss was yes indeed given the opportunity to rewrite some scenes, add scenes, and seemingly to have a say, when more than likely it's the studio and the distribution who had full control of which direction THEY wanted to take the film. Joss took on the project for obligation (he signed the contract and he had to hold up to it) to somehow turn it around and finish the film in 3 months. That is nearly impossible to pull off and for sure ready for disaster. More than likely, he too wasn't given the full control that so many of you guys think he had even with the opportunities within a short time. Because he was given a deadline and studios, distribution, and especially the investors, all can't afford to push back a highly budgeted film in order to get their money back. I'm just saying this is the harsh and realistic side within the film business. Even with Zack's cut, I don't know how much control or much say he had with that one either, cause he too was given a budget and a deadline to finish his work.
@@marleymarss Exactly. Much different than Whedon fully taking control. This being said I like Whedon version better
@@marleymarss well actually, joss Whedon didn't have to go and reshoot half the film. He could have added a few and fixed the rest in editing. But he went and did a reshoot and tried to make the film his. Especially considering the deadline, shooting a few scenes after a rough cut to fill any voids while keeping the core the same is more effective and efficient. Instead he tried to redo the film. Even the scenes he used, he changed the color palette, the design of the main villain Steppenwolf and much more.
Actually Whedon cut was the sitcom type of funny and this one is more of a serious type
I say take Josstice league as a parody
Lol
Whedon Cut: "I know you have abilities. I just don't know what they are." *throws a batarang at his face*
*throws a batarang, kid dies, weather outside changes to storm*
Batman: so it was weather control...
It doesn't even make sense writing wise, Bruce knows that he has speed powers. Why would he say he doesn't know it?
Whedon writing 101
I mean, if you die from a batarang, are you even useful to the justice league? No.
@@p.mil.1147 doesn't mean you can just go and kill everyone not useful to the league kek
@@TotallySearch batman: i can give you money fisherman: you think u can talk to us like children? *aquaman grabs him aggresively, batman pulls out money* fisherman: i guess you can 🤷♂️
2017 tv: kpop
2021 tv: 💀
ngl I caught that right away. It was cool seeing BLACKPINK when I watched it in theatres.
It is because skulls are not allowed in japan or korea on tv and games
@@skelestial thats a cap
@@skelestial ah. That makes sense, I watched it when I lived in Korea.
@Dopee 13 Not allowed? Dorohedoro has a skull mask & One Piece straight up uses Skull imagery to portray pirate flags and its popularity in Japan knows no bounds.
I really think “I need friends” was all we needed the way the line was delivered and the way his home base is set up explains he is a loner already. I just hate the brunch line so much
in 2017 JL after he said "Friends" the scene onwards is a re-shoot.. you could actually notice his hair change
Not to mention how Affleck changed too, it's jarring.
The camera angle changes too. It completely dragged me out of the movie the first time I saw it because it was so obvious it was a reshoot added in way later
Wow I'm such an idiot, just now I realized it LOL
They CG'd his hair like Superman's mustache.
@@alexanderthered5603 I can't unsee it
Wheadon: Let's have Barry say that everything is extremely slow for him.
Zack Snyder: Let's SHOW that in Barry's point of view time is slowed down and he experiences seconds in hours, let's expand the character by letting the audience experience his world instead of simply describing it, let's show not tell
In the first 6 minutes of the Snyder cut not a single word was spoken. Yet the story was still conveyed about the impacts from where Batman v Superman left off. Snyder definitely did not make the audience feel stupid. We get it. We want to learn. Not simply be told.
Although telling in a movie can help especially with that last line because it helps to show that Bruce is just as quick witted.
@@a_velis preach brother 🙏
Did we watch the same thing? You guys are talking about the scene as if there much difference between the 2 slow mo sequences other than pacing.
@@haddow777 Yeah, this may have not been the right scene to comment this on.
The mere fact that Snyder's is less orangey makes everything worth it.
he saved up all the Orange-ness for the Joker post-credit scenes
Junkie XL score REALLY elevated this scene for me.
the beat drop before Barry says Youre the Batman is so good. I really dig the Flash score motifs
Forreal it was so frenetic and unpredictable like the character himself
Junkie elevates any scene lets be real
He's a beast. Not far below Zimmer
I dont think he scored the film cause I saw the credits and it was by some dude
Josstice league’s pacing:
“So you’re fast?”
ruclips.net/video/XGKPtLZkMUA/видео.html
Batman: “i know you have abilities. I just don’t know what they are.”
*Proceeds to chuck a knife at his face”
Well he kinda knows because he did see him appear and disappear in that shop footage. So he's confused between Teleportation (Bar would be on th side or somewhere else) or speed ( bar caught the batarang)
I love how even the computers in the back change too hahaha!
on zack cut, there is no kpop background music also
@@Procedurallydegeneratedjohn yeah No, where did u get that info cookies
@@Procedurallydegeneratedjohn what 🤣
@@Procedurallydegeneratedjohn I'd like to know what are those most countries
@@daikimochiron By "most countries", he meant China only
Imagine if in the Zack Snyder's, they changed it to an anime instead of k-pops
That would be great🤣🤣🤣
Make it Reiner vs Eren
Anime is highly intellectual that k-pop won't be able to reach 😂😂😂
@@littlepriwill6638 yes
@@haninjamaxflare555 k-pop is absolute stupid and trash 🗑️, just has some good looking guys that's the end 😂😂😂 nothing else
hes so fast, he even managed to wash his hair during the conversation 1:26
Its cool how in the ZSJL version, you see Flashes powers blow a ton of wind at Bruce, makes it feel mystical.
Great choice of word with mystical for your description, it's exactly how I felt when I saw that.
It's not mystical, the air around flash would have definitely moved because of his own fast movement. It can be attributed as an attempt to incorporate physics.
@@ndkshr We said it FEELS mystical... it feels godlike, or magical.. obviously it's physics, and his speed moving the air... it just gives flash this mystical aspect....
I was so happy to NOT see the whole "brunch" shit in Snyder's version
Exactly. Like wtf does brunch have to do with anything. It’s literally just Batman recruiting Barry and he just starts ranting on about brunch for no reason
@@boejiden6938 I believe Joss was trying have the audience connect flash. Since he is fast, his mind must also be fast. And would mean it's easy for him to lose focus on what's important in the situation. ADHD is probably what Joss' flash had. Since he easily loses focus and trips on his own feet while being too deep in thought. Joss probably thought that if flash is a kid maybe he should act like one. But flash is a young adult so, idk.
The kpop music shoehorned in the scene to appeal to some stans is such a Whedon move.
I think it was there because Ezra Miller loves Blackpink, and that song came out in 2017 so it showed that Barry Allen was interested in popular culture (but the Snyder Cut was filmed before the song came out, so that's why the screen had the skull instead). Either way, I think it was a pretty fun easter egg in the original! :)
nah bp stan are just the dumbest, they got excited over the littlest representation. whedon used it as a shot to get viral.
Whedon spent so much dollars and effort to reshoot Ezra in this scene just to make him talk about "brunch".
Joss: "BE QUIRKY FUNNY! GO!"
Ezra: "Uhhh BRUNCH"
"I know you have abilities. I just don't know what they are." *throws batarang*
"Well, you see, I make these really fascinating illusi-" *dead*
Flash felt like a wimpy kid that was always complaining about his blood sugar levels in the Whedon cut but now he acts like the Flash we all grown up to love, lovable, funny and brave.
No he does not he still act dam goofy tripping and shit like a dam fool run like a dam idiot and crash every time to stop that what i saw when i was fast forward this trash if the cgi was better i watch it but till them i fast forward to the action witch suck to,like superman beating every super but when it gets to the batman same shit from dawn save by a woman
Snyder also didnt TELL us barry has never saved anyone or know how to "be a hero." He instead SHOWED that Barry is still new to being a hero but we see he has hero instincts and wants to help. Hes funny and brave and doesnt just complain like he needs his hand held the whole time
@@joseanrodriguez2005 Take a minute to read what you type.
@@joseanrodriguez2005 Boy tried to fast-forward his comment.
@@joseanrodriguez2005 godzilla had a stroke reading this
I love how Snyder delivered every hero's Character and the main story in this movie.. especially the flash and cyborg...😊♥️
Snyder's Barry: Hyperactive dude with no filters.
Whedon's Barry: Imbecile.
🤣🤣bruh u made my day
To be honest, I like the fact that Barry tells Batman what's his problem with people. It humanizes him a lot more. It's the brunch line that throws Whedon's take to the toilet.
I'm pretty sure they didn't have that in snyders cut because it would just be repeating the information we already had gotten in the scene flash was introduced
Like we the audience can't possibly figure out what's his problem with people without him spoonfeeding it to us
Show, don't say.
If you're wondering why blackpink isnt in barry's computers, its because most of the snyder cut was shot around early 2016 and "as if your last" was released around late 2017 and joss wedon just added it in the reshoots. Ezra is blink btw
TG hey could’ve added it in post. Zack isn’t Blink 😔
Its better
Lmao hes not, he's just know bp after it went blow up
Also flash doesn't watch k-pop
@@vidjamouse4256 they made flash a weirdo. LoL
i was literally just listening to "blackpink - as if it's your last" moments ago. And when i watched this lol, the bgm caught me off guard 0:15
What is brunch? Such a shit line, I swear
Good thing that shit was removed
Better said, was never shot by snyder so it didn't exist
I don't know why brunch is a bad line although it doesn't make much sense that Barry doesn't have friends.
But the rest of the goofy dialogue is ok for you all. Snyders braindead fanboys.
@@itswariotime7543 The brunch line was totally out of context. Looks like you haven't seen the Josstice League or the Snyder Cut.
The best decision in the Snyder cut: no more teal filter. Now THAT is good to see!
idk dude i hate it. if they're gonna do that they should make the costumes, props, and everything brighter. Snyder's Cut it looks so bleak and stripped of life, it's like watching 2014 Godzilla :(
People are just used to whatever the other company pushed out. If it's not your cup of tea stick to the other franchise.
@@handphone77 What moronic logic
@@BB-bh8yy I'll take anything over a teal filter at this point. It's in every movie and it makes me sick!
i like the color grading looks cooler
Why is there a cut on the right at 0:19? It was a smooth transition in Whedon's Justice League.
even the cinematography in snyders justice league is better than josstice leagues
@@tream1499 No, I mean, the cut was added in this video only. In other clips of this scene of Joss Whedon's Justice League (2017), the camera pans naturally from Affleck's face to the photo.
@@roadent217 oh i see, i think it might’ve just been a byproduct of something that happened in the editing software, or just a random mistake he did while inputting the video file into it. There is also the possibility that the cut was used to sync the two clips together.
you see that the 1:33:1 aspect ratio you gain more instead of losing, and if you still want to see in wide just crop it
You know when a line flops when everyone is happy for the extended silence and less wordy interaction and it’s the entire comment section.
0:07
Whedon: Kpop in the screen
Snyder: A skull
Honestly, a skull looks more handsome than those 4 random kpop girls lmao
@@hottestmanever777
It's not random bruh, it's a fuckin Blackpink
@@hottestmanever777surprised you don't know blackpink
So they keep the same runtime yet edit out flash speed scene to put a brunch joke! Well done Joss 😑😑😑
Joss was given an impossible task by a rudderless studio, not all his fault
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 Wdym he just needed to tell them that this is two movies and added an exchange between Batman and Cyborg at around the 2 hour mark. Joss is sexist hack.
@@KRYMauL joss is a sexist despot douchebag no doubt, but not a hack
His handling of cyborg appears hacky from film making standpoint but they had personal issues and took cut him from spite, so shouldn't count against him as film maker
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 I get your point but arguably it is very unprofessional and therefore makes him not a very good filmmaker. When you are at work you leave your personal business at the door. Imagine you were the studio and you were told your movie bombed and nobody likes it because the guy you hired couldn't get along with somebody? That's embarrassing
@@NDCSD yes, it's not a good look for him professionally. I mean, he literally did like 2 minutes of backstory and never explained his powers and had him just standing in back like we wouldn't notice the new guy, for a major character in justice league in the justice league movie. He must know that's bad filmmaking
I never noticed, but you can tell that Ezra Miller has a different haircut as soon as starts the "brunch" comments.
It looks like an interview of Ezra Miller monologuing and is completely unnecessary.
Ya thats because Whedon added it later on.
You must be blind then. Other than Cavill’s stache. That scene is the most blatant example of reshoots
And Affleck looks more bloated
So weird and stupid of Whedon to reshoot Ezra and spend thousands of dollars and time just to include the "brunch" rewrite.
The ZSJL version really gets across how fast Barry is, like hes sitting there figuring everything out and thinking all within those few seconds but for him he processed a lot. The JW version, it's so jump cutty and quick that it's disorienting.
One more reason to love the Snydercut. The time it takes speaks volumes. Now I see Ezra's take on Barry for what it is. He's only takes his time when using the speedforce and that contrasts really well with how fast speaking his is in normal time.
Me: oh Joss only trimmed the ‘Flash seeing the Batarang’ scene because the Studio wanted the movie to be shorter, So he just lessened the time of the scene and the scene still feels great. Makes sense on Joss’ part.
Flash for literally the rest of the remaining time: “bRuNCh”
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My phone just glitch
@@kagotsholo2487 that's his name
I really thought it was 11 years ago 🥲
I love how the Snyder cut really takes it’s time. (And that they took out the brunch thing)
Everyone has to remember that zack Snyder recorded most of the beginning of the 2017 justice league that’s why he used those parts of the film.
Without a definitive way to determine who shot what, other than KNOWING the Whedon parts were cut - I wonder how many of the 'original' Snyder scenes were also re-shot?
If Snyder didn't shoot it he doesn't have it.
@@terrylandess6072 hey so i did some small research.
Apparently you CAN tell who shot what!
Yes i know. Shocking, right?
The nightmare sequences in the epiloge is the only one that they add in.
So the original cut(~3hours) plus the epiloge plus the cgi that they spent the whole 2020 to complete = 4 hours
We can assume that joss cut about 1-2 hours of the original and add in his 1 hour jokes.
Also cgi mustache, it's pretty clear who shot that
1:25 & 1:30 in 17' look at Barry's hair you can see the reshoots of Joss.
Bruce’s hair is a bit different too
@@captcardinal7082 also the makeup
Yeah I see too. Really weird different first time
It's funny because his hair also looks better in Zack's version.
The editing in the ZS version is much better. The comedy lands better, the dialogue flows more naturally.
There's more tension, too. You can feel the Flash's anxiety that there's someone in his house better, and you can better see him make the decision to show off his power
Somehow the theatrical cut seems like it doesn't let the scene breathe enough, even though the two scenes are almost exactly the same length
It's so fascinating to see these two side by side
I'm glad the 'I need friends' bit is still in
That was in the original first trailer in 2017. Only the lines that followed are reshoots.
You can see how zacks version is just taking its time love it
I like how the colors in Snyder’s cut are all dull and dark, it fits the darker story being told
The drag out slow catch scene was better than just the cut to him looking at Bruce
Whedon made the scene faster just to give room to a bad joke -he really knows how to prioritize it seems.
I’m gonna be honest here. I think Joss Wheadon is getting a little too much hate for the theatrical version of Justice League. I mean, he is definitely 100% guilty for how it came out. But i think Warner Bros was far more to blame than Wheadon himself. I mean the fact that the studio even hired Joss Wheadon, a man with the exact opposite directing style as Snyder, to take over reshoots was a giant red-flag
Let's not forget the abusive treatment he gave to the cast.
The corporates from WB should get most of the blame because they think making a dc movie look like something from the mcu means more cash.
@@superjackster0165 It's true, if he made this movie from the ground it probably wouldn't be as terrible. Here it was two different visions of one movie, smashed together. Snyder almost finished his version, so all budget was already spent on his one, and reshoots got probably nothing.
@@andrew720 Not to mention that he was on a timer when he wrote new scenes for the reshoots. Remember that Warner Bros refused to delay the film. They wanted the film to keep its November 2017 release date in order to get their Christmas bonuses from, I believe it was, AT&T. If Wheadon had been given more time, maybe he could’ve made something decent. Although, they should’ve never made changes to Zack’s movie
What interest me is to see the reshoot frames, and see how different it is from the principal photography. You can see the background and position of the Flash changes from original scene and the reshoots
I just watched the movie and Zack really enjoyed giving screentime to everyone's powers/abilities, and that dream and extra characters holy-
Snyder shows the powers and the facial expressions, the non vocal realisations and visuals, while Whedon has a speech about the faults of Brunch.
And that pretty much sums up how the two are different. Just multiply that by the entire film and you get the four hour masterpiece.
So, they cut like half of the scene to make a joke about brunch and Barry saying people is slow for him, because, you know, he's fast. Like, they tried to include more stuff in it, to make it better (??) and funnier, but they got the opposite reaction. I mean, the brunch part would be funny, but it feels too Marvel (like most of the jokes in this movie), and this is not Marvel. And don't get me wrong, I like it, but that type of humor has become in his majority a Marvel mark, and swing that in DC, feels weird. And even more after watching Snyder's Cut. Don't try to imitate that, make your own thing Warner, like Zack Snyder was trying to do (and finally, he did).
After Barry said I need friends, Bruce should have said, "Super."
Dude, you edited out the best part. “I do competitive ice skating”
Very competitive ice skating
@Callum Rangan you'll get your answed in The Flash movie :)
0:07 : Name of The Song Playing In the Whedon Version.
Pause at 1:50, and look at the difference in lighting. The one on the left is how I always imagined Bruce Wayne. Even when he is not wearing the suit, he is still one with the dark, whereas the one on the right makes Bruce look all puffy and Disney-ish.
True
Ye I hated how DCEU batman was making jokes and smiling a lot. That's not who batman is. I know he smirks in a everything else but he doesn't crack jokes.
Glad someone pointed this out i was thinking the same
You can tell when the original scenes were shot vs when the re-shoots were shot.
Looking at the 2017 frame, you can see Barry's haircut is inconsistent between the scenes at 1:45.
Really cool! Thanks for doing this
It’s like when you haven’t met the paper length. So you add two spaces between all of your words, and double space it.
Z's version has a more mature feel and a continuity that Wh's version doesn't have. Flash isn't an annoying fuck anymore.
His bad acting is annoying.
In Snyder’s version, Barry is still a dork at heart, but he can be serious when he needs to be and is really important to the league in certain parts, especially towards the end.
@@rishabiyer958 Nailed it. I think he is supposed to be the 'Spiderman' personality of the DCU. The younger, starstruck type who is way over is head but growing into his role.
The character arc does support this notion - he didn't have a mature, stable father figure, yet found the missing parts in the JL and integrated that into himself. He accepted the positive parts of his father (during the light speed breaking scene) too.
This is the one scene I really wanted to see a comparison of
Editors: So you want us to cut out some of the Flash using his power because it’s too long?
Joss Whedon: Yes.
Editors: But you want us to put this brunch joke in?
Joss Whedon: Yes.
nothing against blackpink but it's so wrong to put them in the movie. thank god they're not in the snyder cut because i'd cringe so bad if they appeared there.
LMFAO AGREED
Directors put tons of pop culture references all the time, even the OG tobey spiderman movie have a cameo of that one singer singing a song who was super popular at the time and didn't get so much hate, i wonder why people getting butthurt about it,
Is it just because they didnt follow/dislike the certain artist? so they blind to the fact that its always have been like this.
@@romusa10 back then cameos were cool, now they feel forced
@@romusa10 it wasn’t Whedon’s decision to put Blackpink in the background. Ezra Miller is a Blackpink fan and apparently he requested it.
@@deekay13 doesnt matter,its still need the director's green light to put a pop culture's reference,and that also didnt explained why people hated it
Any reason for the random BLACKPINK?
"Can I keep this?". I'm glad they kept that line. Guess I would have asked the same. That blade is really cool!
#Batfleck
Don't forget to subs 😊
cause I will post more Zack Synders vs Joss Whedon Comparison
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I suggest putting the ZSJL Audio on the Left audio Channel, and the Josstice League audio on the right audio channel.
Awesome Video 💯 Keep up the Great Hard Work 👍😁
PepeScoots but which account?
Joss who ?
this shows the importance of pacing like we get that’s he’s the flash but you don’t have to literally speed through the dialogue and sequence to try and show that , Snyder’s scene contrasts that by showing more time in the speed force with Barry emphasizing how different he experiences time compared to others so we can gauge how fast he actually is
Anyone notice how any time a lever is pulled in Justice league there's a huge spark of light that comes from the switch? I wonder if that's an intentional inside joke or something.
It's just to show high voltage.
Honestly I have no idea why Whedon thought it was a good idea to put kpop in one of Barry’s monitors
Because YG entertainment pay for that. May be
It’s cause of advertisements they get paid if they put in a brand. This is why you see stuff like 711 or drink brands like Coke in movies
Because Whedon was trying so hard to have The Flash feel like an outcast and relatable to as many socially akward nerds as possible
@@forgottenalex I am a socially awkward nerd and I am not into K-Pop.
@@forgottenalex most of the demographic in America that likes K-Pop are teenage girls, and even back then they were popular, hell Gangnam Style brought the kpop wave and that was in 2013, so it’s an odd move nonetheless
Does anyone else think that the slowmo was unnecessary and they should have just put him catching the batarang and saying that he’s the Batman but not in slowmo
joss: ok Ezra just say something funny
Ezra: um...ok? like what?
Joss: idk anything that comes to your mind just roll with it
Ezra:...BrUnCh???
Joss: cut! ok that was good! ok guys thats a wrap