Remember doing field service in the nice parts of town and the way the JW’s reserved these houses for themselves after the day of judgment…..how deluded 😂😂😂
@@neverperching1554 omg SOOOOO materialistic they want nice house and nice cars but ask them to donate $500 to the donation box and they will turn you in to the elders for being a smartass smh
That won't happen for many reasons. One reason is that Revelation 21:4 says there won't be pain anymore. Living somewhere you wouldn't want to live would be painful.
@@AverageCommentor ive always wondered about that too. becuase they said you wont remember any bad things or pain. But also say everyone that died is getting resurrected. Sooo i guess that would include a person that maybe killed someones child in a car wreck? my guess would be once that person is resurrected you will instantly remember the pain they caused you. Also just seeing certain ppl come back to life you love would trigger memories of pain they went thru lol. makes no sense
"Maybe you don't have a home because you never had a real job, but instead washed windows your whole life so you could pass out literature for a cult full time"
as a born in, all my logistical questions were completely written off as a 5-year-old kid. Im glad to see people are still breaking their fallacies apart all of these years later
Bet it, WT leaders will never talk about the highly irritating and nauseating 😵 stench of decaying corpses and billions of trillions of displeasing houseflies helping themselves with the dead bodies. (Or could it be that flies will feed on grass?) Thanks for your wonderful efforts Lloyd.
Yes and elders wives have said they are the first to get the biggest and best houses that are still standing. The rest are to fend for themselves. In other words they haven't a clue... So they ARE assigning the survivors to rubbeld desease ridden cities etc. While the such and such as those live in luxery. I think God himself will sort that one out. Eg Nimrod story.
While installing cabinets in a "brothers" home he asked if I would like to listen to Kingdom songs while I worked. " No thank you" said I, "got any rock and roll?" Imagine having nothing to listen to but that awful " music".
Why would anyone need to build? Assumedly the resurrected have proven their loyalty. Now they have a god that can just poof stuff into existence. It should be of no consequence for a god described like Jehovah to just poof all the people's needs into existence. That's how they'll be able to eat meat. Hungry? Poof a steak on the grill. No animals were harmed.
When I was young, I used to say that paradise didn't sound like fun. I didn't want to build my own house or grow my own food, that it would be boring. People in the congregation looked at me as if lightning was going to strike me down. 😂
I used to tell my mother the exact same thing sounds quite boring to me like when does The Paradise come in? Being able to travel and see the places you were never able to or do all the things that you were never able to when does that come in because their version of paradise doesn't sound anything like a paradise to me
So what would actually change? The peasants would be stuck chopping down trees to make lumber, shingles, nails windows, concrete. And to maintain the roads and bridges to transport the supplies. Tires on trucks go flat.. Who us going to make the tires? Then transport them? Or are we going back to horses? Who will grow the cotton to make all the nice shirts, and blouses, and blue jeans that all the smiling worker drones are wearing? How will they plant the wheat, and harvest it, and grind it? If each household is going to make their own, welcome back to the 1500's, and subsistence farming. When I was in, I never thought about that before. " do not run ahead of Jehovah's Organization...."
As I was watching this video I did remember David Splane mentioning that the surviving JWs would be assigned to where they would live. So Jehovah is going to mess with peoples' minds to make them think they like living in the city instead of the location they would rather choose! It made me think of the song "Freewill" by Rush. Some very interesting lyrics indeed.
Watchtower's greatest evil is to teach that we were created to be separated from God for eternity, living on an earthly petting zoo. Rather _"For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face."_ (1 Cor 13:12)
The Creator knows that you and all atheists, agnostics, and fanatics of all religions rejected the authority and teachings of His Christ as useless and worthless, no value whatsoever in your life and existence. The Christ knows too that you and all atheists, agnostics, and fanatics of all religions are mocking, defying, and opposing the Sovereignty of his God and Father. Truthful, kind, and loving persons know that all the anti-Christs Pastors and Leaders of all religions and the fanatic believers of their LIES and foolishness are nothing but foolish and worthless human beings who'll just become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their deaths.
"They will build houses and live in them"? Wow ! must have taken a god to churn out that bit of wisdom. Certainly no ordinary human could pen such brilliance. Obviously that applies to JW in paradise. I see no other possible explanation.
Again watchtower taking scripture out of context these passages are relating to the jews living at that time that they would dwell in their nation living in their own homes
A grand home will at some point require large sums of money to maintain, only a skilled tradesmen could safely carry out the work, who's gonna pay them for their time.
I remember asking my mother questions like that and she said “ Jehovah can do anything and make you do things that you never thought of because you will have a perfect brain”……
I suspect that many people will have to be drunk all the time as having vineyard means also huge amounts of wine which can't be consumed by one person in one year if drunk only in moderation. And there will have to be chemistry industry to produce fungicides to kill the illnesses of vines, etc.
My aunt said that her house is going to be on the beach and it's going to have a horse ranch and she will ride horseback along said beach. I told her all I know is that I want a Lamborghini. She said why would you want a Lamborghini in the new system? I said I thought we were naming everything we wanted LOL she said no it doesn't work like that no Lamborghinis. I want to petition Brooklyn bethel to give my aunt an award and have a whole ceremony because she's been a hellafied saleswoman for those folks. For the mere fact that she sold those folks to her own nieces and nephews without at least blinking her eyes like I know this kind of BS but this is what we doing sort of thing, nope, went to sell it to us like she would the people coming along the street. They swear they really believe this in a lot of my generation kids went for it baptized and the rest of them perpetrating the fraud. I told them the problem I got with it but they haven't this fellowshiped me from the family because whenever anything needs to be done I'm the only male in the family worth a damn
Really strange… quite a contradictory message. Depicting nice homes in open park like areas with no one else as far as the eye can see… and on the other hand telling them they may be assigned to live in an overpopulated city whether they like it or not, they will have to learn to lump it. So some witnesses will be favourited over others? Some get their dream home in a park, but some get stuck in a high rise and just have to bite it. Weird. When I grew up ‘on the inside’ there was no such talk about being assigned where to live as far as I remember, we were told we could live wherever we liked in our dream home. Like it was a reward for making it through. Now it seems that reward may not apply to all of them. I’d feel ripped off 😄
My dad played the game for about 50 years. He got no nothing, no loving congregation surrounding him as he was terminally ill, no reward at his end, no paradise 💔, just more broken JW predictions that again didn't play out.
@@snowwhite2709 Yes very unfortunate. I was introduced as a mid teenager and was able to escape at 19. I have a sibling that was pulled in at the age of 5 and managed to escape in early twenties but still isn’t free (POMI). 🤷♀️
Sorry maybe you spoke about this before, however, once I questioned an elder who said that people who resurrect will look different as they will be "same in spirit" but different in person. When I asked how would I know it's them, they said "you just will know". Therefore, I told them this is called reincarnation and they went absolutely nuts as we don't believe in such a thing. I'm not a JW anymore for a very long time but never had an answer to this 🤷♀️
Wow, what? Assigned?! I thought you got to choose! That was the fun in it, having the freedom to choose where you live, and the design of your home. I guess that much freedom, even in the New World is too much to ask for , that must be a new one.
Master Lloyd's sarcasm at it's best at 3:34. Lmao! Tony Morris will make sure that the wine meets Liquor store standards! And who else knows about this topic? Non other than brother Tony...bottlegate poster child! 🤣😝
This system of things sounds WAY better than how paradise is described. At least here I can live in the house I want, where I want and eat steak while listening to the music I like, with the people I like.
Hahaha, all atheists, agnostics, and fanatics of all religions and their anti-Christs Pastors and Leaders are all free to live and exist on earth whatever, however, and wherever they want to live and exist while they're still breathing and not yet in their graves, their final homes as worthless and useless dusts on earth forever.
I'm also wondering whether animals would keep eating meat in their paradise? (Birds eating flesh of dead bodies.) I think there was a publication once suggesting that they might would and would only be peaceful with each other for a short while.I don't remember when I read it in Watchtower but it was shocking at the time as contradicted everything else said on the topic before. Especially that they'd been teaching for years that animals were vegetarian before the Flood (despite fossil evidence to the contrary).But when there's confusion and contradictions,the answer is always a 'trust Jehovah ' and don't think, we'll get the answers in 'due time'.
I love how they quote scriptures like Isaiah 65:21 "They will build houses and live in them" which they admit was talking about the Israelite exiles. They quote this scripture and many like it as if this has application today or in the future. Show me in the bible where this scripture is a prophecy which will be fulfilled in the future. Very interesting how this elusive scripture was not quoted.
Who cleans up everyone's poop? Where does the poop go? If you can't die, what's the point of eating if all it does is result in a mess to clean up? Regarding housing, maybe some people are assigned to live underwater since they can't drown? Maybe some people are assigned to live in volcanoes since they can't be burned to death? If you can't freeze to death, then why not live in Antarctica? Will you get trapped in ice for eternity? Is living in any of these previously non-inhabitable environments your idea of paradise? If you can live under these conditions, are you even human anymore?
No one cleans up wild animals poop, so no one will clean up their poop. Their poop goes the same place that wild animals' poop goes; it decays. They can die, just not due to old age, they're not immortal, so they need to eat. They can drown, so no living underwater. They can burn to death, so no to volcanoes. You can freeze to death, so Antarctica is off-limits. Impossible to get trapped in ice for eternity, due to the fact that your body will freeze to death. These uninhabitable environments are not anyone's idea of paradise, which is why they're uninhabitable. If you can live under these conditions, you are not human, because the human body cannot survive the conditions you described.
@@WilliamEly. What we know about paradise is very little, so I cannot factually say yes or no. However, I sincerely doubt that a perfect world would be an open sewer.
I was once told that natural laws would still apply,eg jumping off a cliff you would still die.Not sure what the explanation is about accidents but guess you'd be resurrected again. Lol .
last weekend I was on a Island. if all the pepole who have lived their would return. it would be crowded. I don´t think they would have a place to stand on.
Guns N Roses referred to the Paradise City where the grass is green and the girls are pretty. Maybe the trade off will be if you live in the country, that the women will be ugly
As a ‘privileged one’ explained to me in the mid ‘70’s those who have done ‘more’ will get the first choice of living space. Apparently assigned living and work assignments for the rest of us peasants.
Maybe this is why my brother had became one of the most greedy people I know. It's sad to see how much he has changed His father in-law was disfellow . They treated him so bad. When he passed away they were right there getting all of his money. Was mad because he had spend some of it. His money and they were mad. It was so sad.
I remember how a JW couple asked an elder whether God would save their house they put so much effort into building.Surely, they'd need it to live in, was their reasoning.The response was ambiguous,' we don't know' but implying a 'maybe'.Adding that there would be some solution anyhow and they shouldn't worry about this.
Imagine being a loyal witness having served for decades..you make it thru to the new order, looking forward to fresh country air and flowing streams....then splane tells you to live in the city. "well you can learn to love the city"...surely there must be some witness's questioning what he is saying. After all when you see publications depicting the new order its always green grass and animals, not high rise buildings....
It's just stupid. Why would it even make possible to go to a paradise with high rises. Who would build them, as well as the whole infrastructure needed to support these city areas. Water, sewers, how would they even be built, stone? Metal? It completely, logically, common sense wise, makes absolutely no sence. I got the perfect idea, based on Logans run movie. Why couldn't God call all the bad guys into the arena, like carousel, and get rid if them that way. No damage to the worlds existing infrastructure, all the survivors could just move in, take over, and run the place. No new building, toiling, cleaning up bodies. Easy peasy
Growing up, I was taught 'cities' like Babel were not God's will and not part of his original purpose for humans. Seems the GB has received 'new light' and we will live in cities that we are assigned to, like in ancient Israel. 🤔 We can 'learn' to love where we are assigned? What happened to "free will"?
On the Paradise Earth, you're assigned where to live, you don't get to decide where you want to live for yourself. How is that supposed to be "paradise" again?
Well, brother X, we're going to need you to be assigned to the city for the next 100 years or so. Now, we know you love it out here in the country but, some of those urban graveyards have been coughin' up more coffins than you could imagine. Well, OK, I guess that's what Jehovah wants. I shall maintain a willing spirit. Let me get my things and I'll be going. Ahem, brother! Let us not be held back by such material things! What? But Bubba is my pet panda! I can't leave him behind. What a paradise.
If a hundred billion is an accurate number ( I mean who really knows how many people) 🤷🏼♀️then there is no way that many people can live on earth that is one of the many things I started to question before I left the organization
And all those who sacrificed children this side of Armageddon with the view that the new world would be a better place for them will be sorely disappointed. A single child per couple? That's 150B. Two kids per family? Yep - all the luscious vineyards are now condominiums. So all those articles about 'waiting and seeing' what was to come can be finally put to rest: there's no room for you to be anything other than as angels and there'll be no procreation.
So if you are assigned a place to live and also given a work assignment which I'm sure isn't based on what your talents or interest are since that's not how the society gives assignments now. How is paradise any different than a communist or socialist ideology. So if you want a glimpse of paradise look at N.Korea
Truthful, kind, and loving worshippers of the Creator and believers of the authority and teachings of the Christ don't just think and believe but really know that all anti-Christs Pastors and Leaders of the JWs, Born Agains, Catholics, Muslims, Mormons, etc. and their fanatic believers are foolish and worthless human beings who'll just become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their deaths. Liars, cruel, and hateful persons and fanatics of all religions will never know and understand that TRUTHFUL, kind, and loving persons will live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the Kingdom of God under the loving rulership, guidance, and protection of the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler, His Christ.
I don’t know if your math works out, Lloyd. JWs are young earthers. They only have to go back 6000 years. Plus, there will be a LOT of babies who died in infancy. What’s the dogma on that? Will the grow up to be adults? Who is going to explain to them that paradise means they won’t be having sex because they were infants when they died and not old enough to marry someone for eternity? If they remain babies for eternity, who’s going to be “assigned” to cheerfully change diapers? What if Jehovah grows a sense of humor and assigns this task to males between the ages of 14-65? Did they ever say who was doing the assigning? I only ask.
i thought that they will be able to marry in the paradise and have children too. It was in recent WT that there will be babies born in the paradise too.
Assigned where you get to live? 😳😳😳. That’s a new one. Expectations already of people not being happy about their assignment 🤯. Living under high control for eternity…how is this paradise ?😵💫🤷🏽♀️
The organization has forgotten that we live in a prison of matter and that to free ourselves of it's chains we have to break the cycle of reincarnation and leave all this behind. Organization keeps giving false hopes.
I’ve been praying everyday someone hacks jw and exposes them but these convention videos are better than anything I could’ve done they’re saying the quiet part so loud!
Today's out of context bible quote: "They will build houses and live in them". Well, yes, that's usually why you build them. 🤨 "They will cook dinner and eat it" Btw, imagine someone from the stone age being resurrected, and assigned to live in a city.
@@auditordoscientosveintitre5545 They believe that mankind has been around for 6000 years, but still admit that the earth is billions of years old (it has changed over the years), probably since the age of the earth isn't relevant to their 1914-based doctrine. It doesn't make any sense, of course. The stone age comment was a joke. ;)
One elder said that it’s likely all the planets in the universe will be inhabited and explored in the new system lol. Sense they have forever to do whatever lol
As a man born into a jehova’s witness family i can say i full-heartedly say i will never agree with their philosophies and beliefs They say the end of days is coming. Every single day i’ve heard that crap since i was a kid and now i’m pushing on 25. Even now it’s gotten more constant because of the pandemic, and i’m amazed i can still stand it. Let me explain why I don’t agree with them: They’re beliefs, their whole life, is based on the fact that they’re preparing for the end of days. They are limited in their way of thinking because of this as well. 1: because some scientific facts don’t agree with them, they either don’t agree with it, they say the devil made it up, or they bend their logic around it. They believed the sane thing as every religion did: that the earth was formed 5,000 years ago but now i keep hearing brothers saying “no it did exist for millions of years, jehova just took breaks in between and all that. Like what the hell? If you can’t even stick by what you’ve been preaching for “thousands of years” than how do you expect me to take you seriously. 2. The guy who founded JW, Charles tase Russell, was a shady conman who preached that the world would end in 1925 and then again they continued this by saying it would end at 1975. We’re still here. 3. And this is the part that i really put fight for. Their belief is that the world will end soon, right? it will end soon. That is the core of what they are preparing for and that means that any accomplishments i’ve achieved during my time on this earth is meaningless because it won’t matter soon. And in this paradise they preach we will live a life of peace, prosperity, and eternal happiness. That just means we will never advance as a species. We will live a stagnant, repetitive, life of watching the sunset and sunrise everyday while reading god’s teaching. I could do that right now minus the end of the world. Speaking about the end of the world. They try to indoctrinate as many people as they can, like mg father keeps telling me “introduce your friends to the real god”, because when apocalypse comes they will be purged along with everyone regardless of how good and kind-hearted they are. If you are a good person and you just so happen to be gay, or you don’t know the true name of “god” than an angel will smight you where you stand. And throughout all this you as a witness cannot show even the faintest of emotion because if you do you’ll be purged as well. This is why i will never in my fucking life join these pod people who believe all you accomplish is inevitably meaningless because it goes against the teachings of god, or it will not exist in the new world, because you are not one of them.
"spiritual security" just like Richard Ash said under oath. In other words we don't take responsibility for the emotional or physical security of children - and it sure does show with the coverups.
Jesus said "Leave the children alone, let them come to me for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such like ones.". They have no true love amongst themselves that's for sure .. Truth speaks for itself.....
So let me get this straight Jehovah's going to help us to become whatever we need to become because being who we were and getting there in the first place wasn't good enough what the literal f. These idiots make absolutely no sense whatsoever and I just have so much trouble understanding how my mother Falls for this BS I know the only reason that she does is because she lost her mother at a very very young age and she's still to this day has issues with the house on how she lost her and if it wasn't for their push narrative on oh being able to be with your loved ones again and I honestly don't think that she would still be in this cult
All of those fine dwellings looked an awfully long way from the Kingdom Hall, there’s maybe camps for those resurrected and going through training on the new do’s and donts
Where exactly are those luxurious countryside and city homes built? Why, on top of the corpses of all the "evil unrepentant sinners" who were slaughtered by God's angelic army at Armageddon of course. If there are ghosts, I wonder how the ghosts of the slaughtered victims of Armageddon would feel about that?
Living in a grand "THEOCRACY" where you are "assigned" to live wherever some elder group, thinks you should live, according to how much you are in favor with them or not, despite where YOU may want to live. Every other aspect of your life, would also be determined by the committee of local power group of men. Every single thing you do would also be under the scrutiny of those men. What a wonderful "PARADISE". Is that a way free people really want to live? Has any of them, thought this through?
Whenever I see drawings or photos in WT literature showing people bulding houses with simple hand tools, I always wonder how they got the hard hats and safety goggles????🙄 There was even one drawing years ago where someone was using a cordless drill????🙄
yes and when everyone's built their own houses Watchtower will at some stage send them demand that they should pass over the deeds to them....guaranteed
They'll also have to teach those 10s of billions how to use toilets and showers, etc. Assuming of course, that technology is allowed in paradise. But they have forever, so I guess they have time.
Remember doing field service in the nice parts of town and the way the JW’s reserved these houses for themselves after the day of judgment…..how deluded 😂😂😂
Yup I too remember those conversations. Extremely deluded.
And materialistic
Ahah I forgot about that but yeah we did that too....so bloody morbid when you think about it! 🤨
@@neverperching1554 omg SOOOOO materialistic they want nice house and nice cars but ask them to donate $500 to the donation box and they will turn you in to the elders for being a smartass smh
We were told the elders would get first choice
This may not be the worst convention ever but it is certainly the most entertaining so far. The more I think about it the funnier it gets.
Yes i agree
I started laughing so hard when he said maybe Tony could come down from heaven to check the quality of wine. That shit cracked me up!
Imagine giving your entire life to get to this perfect existence and then you’re forced to live somewhere you don’t want to 😂
And possibly not near family.
That won't happen for many reasons. One reason is that Revelation 21:4 says there won't be pain anymore. Living somewhere you wouldn't want to live would be painful.
@@AverageCommentor ive always wondered about that too. becuase they said you wont remember any bad things or pain. But also say everyone that died is getting resurrected. Sooo i guess that would include a person that maybe killed someones child in a car wreck? my guess would be once that person is resurrected you will instantly remember the pain they caused you. Also just seeing certain ppl come back to life you love would trigger memories of pain they went thru lol. makes no sense
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@@AverageCommentor Perhaps you need to tell that to the Governing Body as they don't seem to agree with you.
The WT is a master at making that carrot on the stick look bigger and more appetizing everyday. Can’t believe I ever believed this utter nonsense.
I look forward to drinking smoothies with you in paradise one day Cuddlez!
"Maybe you don't have a home because you never had a real job, but instead washed windows your whole life so you could pass out literature for a cult full time"
as a born in, all my logistical questions were completely written off as a 5-year-old kid. Im glad to see people are still breaking their fallacies apart all of these years later
Bet it, WT leaders will never talk about the highly irritating and nauseating 😵 stench of decaying corpses and billions of trillions of displeasing houseflies helping themselves with the dead bodies. (Or could it be that flies will feed on grass?) Thanks for your wonderful efforts Lloyd.
Yes and elders wives have said they are the first to get the biggest and best houses that are still standing. The rest are to fend for themselves. In other words they haven't a clue... So they ARE assigning the survivors to rubbeld desease ridden cities etc. While the such and such as those live in luxery. I think God himself will sort that one out. Eg Nimrod story.
I was told we are to clean up the earth and take care of the corpses and caskets. I thought, is this Paradise??!?!? Don't think so. 😂🤣
The flies shall be very grateful! 🤣
Yep! Flies will eat grass. Spiders will eat grass... I expect grass will go extinct.
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Good one! 😂
While installing cabinets in a "brothers" home he asked if I would like to listen to Kingdom songs while I worked. " No thank you" said I, "got any rock and roll?" Imagine having nothing to listen to but that awful " music".
I’m an engineer and PIMO, I can’t think of anything worse than being stuck on a building site IN PARADISE!!! When do I get my Panda time?!?!
Why would anyone need to build? Assumedly the resurrected have proven their loyalty. Now they have a god that can just poof stuff into existence. It should be of no consequence for a god described like Jehovah to just poof all the people's needs into existence. That's how they'll be able to eat meat. Hungry? Poof a steak on the grill. No animals were harmed.
I hope the smoothie/blender factory is by the ocean and that I get assigned there 😂🤣
When I was young, I used to say that paradise didn't sound like fun. I didn't want to build my own house or grow my own food, that it would be boring. People in the congregation looked at me as if lightning was going to strike me down. 😂
I used to tell my mother the exact same thing sounds quite boring to me like when does The Paradise come in? Being able to travel and see the places you were never able to or do all the things that you were never able to when does that come in because their version of paradise doesn't sound anything like a paradise to me
Right?? I remember the older generations going on and on about how wonderful it would be, while us kids just sat there thinking it would stink lol.
So what would actually change?
The peasants would be stuck chopping down trees to make lumber, shingles, nails windows, concrete.
And to maintain the roads and bridges to transport the supplies.
Tires on trucks go flat..
Who us going to make the tires?
Then transport them?
Or are we going back to horses?
Who will grow the cotton to make all the nice shirts, and blouses, and blue jeans that all the smiling worker drones are wearing?
How will they plant the wheat, and harvest it, and grind it?
If each household is going to make their own, welcome back to the 1500's, and subsistence farming.
When I was in, I never thought about that before.
" do not run ahead of Jehovah's Organization...."
As I was watching this video I did remember David Splane mentioning that the surviving JWs would be assigned to where they would live. So Jehovah is going to mess with peoples' minds to make them think they like living in the city instead of the location they would rather choose! It made me think of the song "Freewill" by Rush. Some very interesting lyrics indeed.
So childish who creates sewer pipes, sawmills for wood, who creates screws, nails, bakes bricks, who dyes all the clothes taupe?
And the factory of tan pants
And the distilleries for Tony and the other alcoholic JWs.
Watchtower's greatest evil is to teach that we were created to be separated from God for eternity, living on an earthly petting zoo. Rather _"For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face."_ (1 Cor 13:12)
The Creator knows that you and all atheists, agnostics, and fanatics of all religions rejected the authority and teachings of His Christ as useless and worthless, no value whatsoever in your life and existence.
The Christ knows too that you and all atheists, agnostics, and fanatics of all religions are mocking, defying, and opposing the Sovereignty of his God and Father.
Truthful, kind, and loving persons know that all the anti-Christs Pastors and Leaders of all religions and the fanatic believers of their LIES and foolishness are nothing but foolish and worthless human beings who'll just become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their deaths.
I would LOVE to see some good sci-fi writer consider the plot of nearly everyone who ever lived materializing randomly on earth. What rich storylines!
Best convention ever cause it’s pure comedy
Some people will be forced to live in "Paradise Cities". Well at least the grass is green and the girls are pretty.
But without guns and with roses😂
The sound production in that paradise clip was exactly like a pension commercial or something 😆
"They will build houses and live in them"? Wow ! must have taken a god to churn out that bit of wisdom. Certainly no ordinary human could pen such brilliance. Obviously that applies to JW in paradise. I see no other possible explanation.
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Again watchtower taking scripture out of context these passages are relating to the jews living at that time that they would dwell in their nation living in their own homes
I got dibs on Letts lake house
A grand home will at some point require large sums of money to maintain, only a skilled tradesmen could safely carry out the work, who's gonna pay them for their time.
I remember asking my mother questions like that and she said “ Jehovah can do anything and make you do things that you never thought of because you will have a perfect brain”……
I suspect that many people will have to be drunk all the time as having vineyard means also huge amounts of wine which can't be consumed by one person in one year if drunk only in moderation. And there will have to be chemistry industry to produce fungicides to kill the illnesses of vines, etc.
And if I happened to make it into "Paradise" I would have to be drunk all the time!
A "near future" that has been "near" for about *2000* years now....
False promises that will never come true
My aunt said that her house is going to be on the beach and it's going to have a horse ranch and she will ride horseback along said beach. I told her all I know is that I want a Lamborghini. She said why would you want a Lamborghini in the new system? I said I thought we were naming everything we wanted LOL she said no it doesn't work like that no Lamborghinis. I want to petition Brooklyn bethel to give my aunt an award and have a whole ceremony because she's been a hellafied saleswoman for those folks. For the mere fact that she sold those folks to her own nieces and nephews without at least blinking her eyes like I know this kind of BS but this is what we doing sort of thing, nope, went to sell it to us like she would the people coming along the street. They swear they really believe this in a lot of my generation kids went for it baptized and the rest of them perpetrating the fraud. I told them the problem I got with it but they haven't this fellowshiped me from the family because whenever anything needs to be done I'm the only male in the family worth a damn
I know this is all BS, but I hope you get a Lamborghini.
Really strange… quite a contradictory message. Depicting nice homes in open park like areas with no one else as far as the eye can see… and on the other hand telling them they may be assigned to live in an overpopulated city whether they like it or not, they will have to learn to lump it. So some witnesses will be favourited over others? Some get their dream home in a park, but some get stuck in a high rise and just have to bite it. Weird. When I grew up ‘on the inside’ there was no such talk about being assigned where to live as far as I remember, we were told we could live wherever we liked in our dream home. Like it was a reward for making it through. Now it seems that reward may not apply to all of them. I’d feel ripped off 😄
I know people that have been playing this game for over 40 years 🤨😢
That's pretty sad for them.... You only have 1 life and they've wasted it.
My dad played the game for about 50 years. He got no nothing, no loving congregation surrounding him as he was terminally ill, no reward at his end, no paradise 💔, just more broken JW predictions that again didn't play out.
@@snowwhite2709 Did your Father ever realize that he had been duped or did he transition/ pass away still believing?
@@leeleemee he passed away still believing, unfortunately, and I still have a POMI sister indoctrinated in this cult.
@@snowwhite2709 Yes very unfortunate. I was introduced as a mid teenager and was able to escape at 19. I have a sibling that was pulled in at the age of 5 and managed to escape in early twenties but still isn’t free (POMI). 🤷♀️
Sorry maybe you spoke about this before, however, once I questioned an elder who said that people who resurrect will look different as they will be "same in spirit" but different in person. When I asked how would I know it's them, they said "you just will know". Therefore, I told them this is called reincarnation and they went absolutely nuts as we don't believe in such a thing. I'm not a JW anymore for a very long time but never had an answer to this 🤷♀️
Wow, what? Assigned?! I thought you got to choose! That was the fun in it, having the freedom to choose where you live, and the design of your home. I guess that much freedom, even in the New World is too much to ask for , that must be a new one.
Your name literally made me lol 😂
@@donniebgood1486
😂😂 I’m glad! Hope you laugh a lot today!
JW/GB do nothing for you yesterday/today/tomorrow BUT next life EVERYTHING will be yours! Their discrimination will be washed away.
Master Lloyd's sarcasm at it's best at 3:34. Lmao! Tony Morris will make sure that the wine meets Liquor store standards! And who else knows about this topic? Non other than brother Tony...bottlegate poster child! 🤣😝
LOL...and brother Tony's face will be on every wine bottle label.
@@deebee153 good one! Add a phrase that says "You can't go wrong with it" 🤣 LMFAO!
@@linasalinas7245 🤣🤣
But they did not build the houses they so desperately covet. How sinful!
Yes, it is getting a bit crowded here on a planet built for two.
Davesplaining hypothetical situation on top of hypothetical situation. Classic Splane!
People are already living in these houses that they featured.
Carrot dangling, more manipulation, same old same old.
This system of things sounds WAY better than how paradise is described. At least here I can live in the house I want, where I want and eat steak while listening to the music I like, with the people I like.
My son asked me if their would be ketchup on paradise earth lol. Kind of put it in perspective 🤣
Just exactly when is the "Near Future "?
Where have I heard that before?
love the shirt!!! shout out to tibor!!!!
If I loved the country but was forced to live in the city, I'm not in paradise; I'm in Hell.
We will be assigned a place, city or town!??!?!? Really!!!! So I cannot live where I want? 🙄😏 Oh dear. 😂🤣
Hahaha, all atheists, agnostics, and fanatics of all religions and their anti-Christs Pastors and Leaders are all free to live and exist on earth whatever, however, and wherever they want to live and exist while they're still breathing and not yet in their graves, their final homes as worthless and useless dusts on earth forever.
Yes you will be bossed around for all eternity!
I'm also wondering whether animals would keep eating meat in their paradise? (Birds eating flesh of dead bodies.) I think there was a publication once suggesting that they might would and would only be peaceful with each other for a short while.I don't remember when I read it in Watchtower but it was shocking at the time as contradicted everything else said on the topic before. Especially that they'd been teaching for years that animals were vegetarian before the Flood (despite fossil evidence to the contrary).But when there's confusion and contradictions,the answer is always a 'trust Jehovah ' and don't think, we'll get the answers in 'due time'.
Tens of billions of smoothies... 🤣
I love how they quote scriptures like Isaiah 65:21 "They will build houses and live in them" which they admit was talking about the Israelite exiles. They quote this scripture and many like it as if this has application today or in the future. Show me in the bible where this scripture is a prophecy which will be fulfilled in the future. Very interesting how this elusive scripture was not quoted.
I intend to live in Buckingham Palace.
🤣
Why is everyone idolizing the countryside? I've missed civilization like hell while I was caring for my parents in a small retirement town
Who cleans up everyone's poop? Where does the poop go? If you can't die, what's the point of eating if all it does is result in a mess to clean up? Regarding housing, maybe some people are assigned to live underwater since they can't drown? Maybe some people are assigned to live in volcanoes since they can't be burned to death? If you can't freeze to death, then why not live in Antarctica? Will you get trapped in ice for eternity? Is living in any of these previously non-inhabitable environments your idea of paradise? If you can live under these conditions, are you even human anymore?
No one cleans up wild animals poop, so no one will clean up their poop. Their poop goes the same place that wild animals' poop goes; it decays. They can die, just not due to old age, they're not immortal, so they need to eat. They can drown, so no living underwater. They can burn to death, so no to volcanoes. You can freeze to death, so Antarctica is off-limits. Impossible to get trapped in ice for eternity, due to the fact that your body will freeze to death. These uninhabitable environments are not anyone's idea of paradise, which is why they're uninhabitable. If you can live under these conditions, you are not human, because the human body cannot survive the conditions you described.
@@AverageCommentor so paradise is an open sewer?
@@WilliamEly.
What we know about paradise is very little, so I cannot factually say yes or no. However, I sincerely doubt that a perfect world would be an open sewer.
I was once told that natural laws would still apply,eg jumping off a cliff you would still die.Not sure what the explanation is about accidents but guess you'd be resurrected again. Lol .
Excellent!!!
last weekend I was on a Island. if all the pepole who have lived their would return. it would be crowded. I don´t think they would have a place to stand on.
Guns N Roses referred to the Paradise City where the grass is green and the girls are pretty. Maybe the trade off will be if you live in the country, that the women will be ugly
As a ‘privileged one’ explained to me in the mid ‘70’s those who have done ‘more’ will get the first choice of living space. Apparently assigned living and work assignments for the rest of us peasants.
Maybe this is why my brother had became one of the most greedy people I know. It's sad to see how much he has changed His father in-law was disfellow . They treated him so bad. When he passed away they were right there getting all of his money. Was mad because he had spend some of it. His money and they were mad. It was so sad.
I remember how a JW couple asked an elder whether God would save their house they put so much effort into building.Surely, they'd need it to live in, was their reasoning.The response was ambiguous,' we don't know' but implying a 'maybe'.Adding that there would be some solution anyhow and they shouldn't worry about this.
Imagine being a loyal witness having served for decades..you make it thru to the new order, looking forward to fresh country air and flowing streams....then splane tells you to live in the city. "well you can learn to love the city"...surely there must be some witness's questioning what he is saying. After all when you see publications depicting the new order its always green grass and animals, not high rise buildings....
It's just stupid. Why would it even make possible to go to a paradise with high rises. Who would build them, as well as the whole infrastructure needed to support these city areas. Water, sewers, how would they even be built, stone? Metal? It completely, logically, common sense wise, makes absolutely no sence. I got the perfect idea, based on Logans run movie. Why couldn't God call all the bad guys into the arena, like carousel, and get rid if them that way. No damage to the worlds existing infrastructure, all the survivors could just move in, take over, and run the place. No new building, toiling, cleaning up bodies. Easy peasy
Growing up, I was taught 'cities' like Babel were not God's will and not part of his original purpose for humans. Seems the GB has received 'new light' and we will live in cities that we are assigned to, like in ancient Israel. 🤔 We can 'learn' to love where we are assigned? What happened to "free will"?
On the Paradise Earth, you're assigned where to live, you don't get to decide where you want to live for yourself. How is that supposed to be "paradise" again?
Well, brother X, we're going to need you to be assigned to the city for the next 100 years or so. Now, we know you love it out here in the country but, some of those urban graveyards have been coughin' up more coffins than you could imagine.
Well, OK, I guess that's what Jehovah wants. I shall maintain a willing spirit. Let me get my things and I'll be going.
Ahem, brother! Let us not be held back by such material things!
What? But Bubba is my pet panda! I can't leave him behind.
What a paradise.
If a hundred billion is an accurate number ( I mean who really knows how many people) 🤷🏼♀️then there is no way that many people can live on earth that is one of the many things I started to question before I left the organization
And all those who sacrificed children this side of Armageddon with the view that the new world would be a better place for them will be sorely disappointed. A single child per couple? That's 150B. Two kids per family? Yep - all the luscious vineyards are now condominiums. So all those articles about 'waiting and seeing' what was to come can be finally put to rest: there's no room for you to be anything other than as angels and there'll be no procreation.
So if you are assigned a place to live and also given a work assignment which I'm sure isn't based on what your talents or interest are since that's not how the society gives assignments now. How is paradise any different than a communist or socialist ideology. So if you want a glimpse of paradise look at N.Korea
Truthful, kind, and loving worshippers of the Creator and believers of the authority and teachings of the Christ don't just think and believe but really know that all anti-Christs Pastors and Leaders of the JWs, Born Agains, Catholics, Muslims, Mormons, etc. and their fanatic believers are foolish and worthless human beings who'll just become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their deaths.
Liars, cruel, and hateful persons and fanatics of all religions will never know and understand that TRUTHFUL, kind, and loving persons will live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the Kingdom of God under the loving rulership, guidance, and protection of the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler, His Christ.
I don’t know if your math works out, Lloyd. JWs are young earthers. They only have to go back 6000 years.
Plus, there will be a LOT of babies who died in infancy. What’s the dogma on that? Will the grow up to be adults? Who is going to explain to them that paradise means they won’t be having sex because they were infants when they died and not old enough to marry someone for eternity?
If they remain babies for eternity, who’s going to be “assigned” to cheerfully change diapers? What if Jehovah grows a sense of humor and assigns this task to males between the ages of 14-65?
Did they ever say who was doing the assigning?
I only ask.
Not young earthers, as much as "young humanityists"; earth can be billions of years old, JWs say nowadays. BUT your point still stands, of course.
i thought that they will be able to marry in the paradise and have children too. It was in recent WT that there will be babies born in the paradise too.
Babies are enemies of god
Assigned where you get to live? 😳😳😳. That’s a new one. Expectations already of people not being happy about their assignment 🤯. Living under high control for eternity…how is this paradise ?😵💫🤷🏽♀️
The organization has forgotten that we live in a prison of matter and that to free ourselves of it's chains we have to break the cycle of reincarnation and leave all this behind. Organization keeps giving false hopes.
I’ve been praying everyday someone hacks jw and exposes them but these convention videos are better than anything I could’ve done they’re saying the quiet part so loud!
Today's out of context bible quote: "They will build houses and live in them". Well, yes, that's usually why you build them. 🤨
"They will cook dinner and eat it"
Btw, imagine someone from the stone age being resurrected, and assigned to live in a city.
JWs believe that the stone age is a lie and that the Earth is about 6,000 years old.
@@auditordoscientosveintitre5545 They believe that mankind has been around for 6000 years, but still admit that the earth is billions of years old (it has changed over the years), probably since the age of the earth isn't relevant to their 1914-based doctrine. It doesn't make any sense, of course. The stone age comment was a joke. ;)
Imagine cooking and eating it! Such marvelous insight, isn't it?
It all makes perfect sense 🤣 have faith the light is getting brighter 👌🏻
Imagine you make it all the way through paradise and all the old tenants being genocide and you still end up in a tiny apartment
One elder said that it’s likely all the planets in the universe will be inhabited and explored in the new system lol. Sense they have forever to do whatever lol
It’s likely lol.
Because none of them know.
Not even the GB.
Pulling shiny out of he air lol
Sort of borrows from Mormon theology!
As a man born into a jehova’s witness family i can say i full-heartedly say i will never agree with their philosophies and beliefs
They say the end of days is coming. Every single day i’ve heard that crap since i was a kid and now i’m pushing on 25. Even now it’s gotten more constant because of the pandemic, and i’m amazed i can still stand it.
Let me explain why I don’t agree with them:
They’re beliefs, their whole life, is based on the fact that they’re preparing for the end of days. They are limited in their way of thinking because of this as well.
1: because some scientific facts don’t agree with them, they either don’t agree with it, they say the devil made it up, or they bend their logic around it. They believed the sane thing as every religion did: that the earth was formed 5,000 years ago but now i keep hearing brothers saying “no it did exist for millions of years, jehova just took breaks in between and all that. Like what the hell? If you can’t even stick by what you’ve been preaching for “thousands of years” than how do you expect me to take you seriously.
2. The guy who founded JW, Charles tase Russell, was a shady conman who preached that the world would end in 1925 and then again they continued this by saying it would end at 1975. We’re still here.
3. And this is the part that i really put fight for. Their belief is that the world will end soon, right? it will end soon. That is the core of what they are preparing for and that means that any accomplishments i’ve achieved during my time on this earth is meaningless because it won’t matter soon. And in this paradise they preach we will live a life of peace, prosperity, and eternal happiness. That just means we will never advance as a species. We will live a stagnant, repetitive, life of watching the sunset and sunrise everyday while reading god’s teaching. I could do that right now minus the end of the world.
Speaking about the end of the world. They try to indoctrinate as many people as they can, like mg father keeps telling me “introduce your friends to the real god”, because when apocalypse comes they will be purged along with everyone regardless of how good and kind-hearted they are. If you are a good person and you just so happen to be gay, or you don’t know the true name of “god” than an angel will smight you where you stand. And throughout all this you as a witness cannot show even the faintest of emotion because if you do you’ll be purged as well.
This is why i will never in my fucking life join these pod people who believe all you accomplish is inevitably meaningless because it goes against the teachings of god, or it will not exist in the new world, because you are not one of them.
0:42 -Ahh... post Armageddon! Such bliss!
"spiritual security" just like Richard Ash said under oath. In other words we don't take responsibility for the emotional or physical security of children - and it sure does show with the coverups.
Jesus said "Leave the children alone, let them come to me for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such like ones.". They have no true love amongst themselves that's for sure ..
Truth speaks for itself.....
And every night the monkey butlers will regale us with jungle stories
What? Oh no! Neo-functionalism in Paradise, as well!
Tony will bring the whiskey for the house warming parties 🙂
WTF even in "paradise" if you want to live in the country you might be "assigned" to live in a city 😂🙄 that's not paradise.
Who's going to assign me to live somewhere? Ken Flodin? Robo Ron? If I made it through "Armageddon" can't I just live where I want? It's all nonsense
So let me get this straight Jehovah's going to help us to become whatever we need to become because being who we were and getting there in the first place wasn't good enough what the literal f. These idiots make absolutely no sense whatsoever and I just have so much trouble understanding how my mother Falls for this BS I know the only reason that she does is because she lost her mother at a very very young age and she's still to this day has issues with the house on how she lost her and if it wasn't for their push narrative on oh being able to be with your loved ones again and I honestly don't think that she would still be in this cult
The scripture mentionning paradise cities is Axel Rose 3:14
The paradise storys are getting more fantastic by the day. ( no scripture to say it from Jehovah) honestly 6 million believe this rubbish
In the new kingdom, who's keeping track of flights departing and landing
All of those fine dwellings looked an awfully long way from the Kingdom Hall, there’s maybe camps for those resurrected and going through training on the new do’s and donts
Cartoon beards are alright by me.
Where exactly are those luxurious countryside and city homes built? Why, on top of the corpses of all the "evil unrepentant sinners" who were slaughtered by God's angelic army at Armageddon of course. If there are ghosts, I wonder how the ghosts of the slaughtered victims of Armageddon would feel about that?
Nice haircut Lloyd.
Looks good 👍
Thank you kindly
Living in a grand "THEOCRACY" where you are "assigned" to live wherever some elder group, thinks you should live, according to how much you are in favor with them or not, despite where YOU may want to live. Every other aspect of your life, would also be determined by the committee of local power group of men. Every single thing you do would also be under the scrutiny of those men. What a wonderful "PARADISE". Is that a way free people really want to live? Has any of them, thought this through?
Surely if we are all made perfect, we won't be ashamed of ourselves and we'll all be naked?
I don’t worry about the 100 billion number. We all know those who engage in self gratification won’t be there so the bar will be very high!
Will people poo in paradise? That’ll create a mess!
OMG you can't even choose where you want to live after waiting for paradise for the last 120 years..you have to be "assigned!"..
The tony Morris bit..... hahaha
Whenever I see drawings or photos in WT literature showing people bulding houses with simple hand tools, I always wonder how they got the hard hats and safety goggles????🙄 There was even one drawing years ago where someone was using a cordless drill????🙄
yes and when everyone's built their own houses Watchtower will at some stage send them demand that they should pass over the deeds to them....guaranteed
If you ever look a north Korean propaganda literature- I swear the w.t. publishers use the same artists
So in paradise you still won't be free to choose where you want to live? You will be ASSIGNED??
Ludicrous!
Why you have to be assigned y to o live somewhere?
Nice Haircut Lloyd
They'll also have to teach those 10s of billions how to use toilets and showers, etc. Assuming of course, that technology is allowed in paradise. But they have forever, so I guess they have time.
Omg if you love the country but you are assigned to live in the city you can learn to love the city lol
And who is the assigner? The GB? Where is that in Scripture?
@@martharadocy lol I know right..
Sounds like JWs will still be bossed around for all eternity!
@@Peekaboo-Kitty exactly