I have had my avenger in .22 plastic for quite some time now. I’ve had zero issues with it. Here’s my take on the wood, it’s about the aesthetics. Plastic stock bothers a lot of people but if you’re caring it around the woods all day the weight factor is important. After using that Gun for many many hours I know what I can do and I know what the Gun can . I’ll sit down with anybody that’s got a Woodstock and match them hole for a hole , that’s how I feel about it. Like I said the advantage to me of the plastic stock is when you’re carrying it around in the woods there’s a big difference in the weight factor. The squirrels in the stew don’t know if they got shot with a plastic stock or Woodstock Everyone was screaming about the stock so they changed it up toward. They also change the price. Buy the plastic and spend the extra money on a pie and scope you won’t regret it
I have a .22 and .25 with the plastic stock. I bought both when they were selling for $299. The wood stock specs say that the weigh 7lbs and the plastic stock 6.4lbs so weight isn't an issue. Having said that I would still get the plastic stock if I were buying today. The wood stock isn't going to improve accuracy so I would use the $80.00 difference in price to buy pellets.
Yeah the wood air venturi avenger is nice . ...having just bought an air rifle, next time I'm shopping for a rifle I'll definitely give the avenger a look for sure. ...another great video rick.take care
My origin pump quit after about twenty fills and was able to repair it , sorry to hear that you are having similar problems ,the rifle is great but the pump is not so great ,good luck
That one was my second choice real nice gun i like the 25 because I have the origin 22 coming thanks for your hard work on the reviews i appreciate you.
Set the reg to 1500 and the hammer spring to about 1.5 to 2 turns in from all the way counterclockwise and call it good. Crazy power with reg set all the way down there.
I’m sorry to be critical but no you really don’t need a compressor. You don’t need to fill this to 4300. It will work fine at 3-3.5k. You just aren’t going to get as many shots. I know you know this but it misleads new airgunners. I’ve read many pump reviews complaining it won’t get my avenger to 4K. I want to yell..then pump it to 3k it will be fine!! As you stated in the video 2900 on the reg is crazy. You can drop it all the way to 1800 and get 870 out of an 18 gr pellet. Then you can shoot from a 3 k fill down to 1800 and still get a good shot count.
If you want to get all the shots you can you need to fill to 300 bar. If you are happy to hand pump to less you certainly can. But to to get the most out of this gun, you should take it to 300 bar. Cheers AGW
When I first bought my avenger I think it took me 180 pumps to get it all the way to 4300 and it wasn't bad... You can use a hand pump for it I didn't even break a sweat and I'm 45 years old 😋👍🎯🎯🎯🎯
@@KINGBREAKBARREL While I understand you can pump the rifle up. Its a pain in the butt. If you only hunt, this is not a big deal. Target shooting a full tin of pellets is another story. I have hand pumped rifles all day long. Even at 3365 psi max its a pain when shooting targets all day. I agree with buying the personal compressor. I bought the Nomad 2.
This is an awesome rifle. It's starting to look like airguns are going the way of computers, flat screen TVs and cellphones. The technology is trickling down to the lower priced guns. Before long you will see a comparison between a $500 and $2,000 dollar gun. And there won't be much difference.
Heith, I think we are already there. I bought the Daystate Redwolf ($2900) to discuss this very point. At 50 yards, I don't think you'll see much difference. Where the difference will start to play out is when you get to 75 and 100 yards. Can't wait to start sharing that footage. Cheers AGW
Great summary. I’d like to know if they’ve changed the poppet? Y’all saying your black plastic stock is running fine that’s good but it’s a matter of time. Hope you get to hold onto longer Rick. Keep up the good work.
Great vid Rick ! I dunno I just have a hand pump. Got a compressor just haven't got around to unboxing it yet its the Chinese model with the writing on the side.
A lot. I’m going to be able to do another video with this one then it is going back. But I have some on order for AirGunProShop.com and will be able to pick up where I leave off. Cheers AGW
I've been jonesing for one of these just to shoot quietly instead of .22's, and .556 and figured for 450.00, but then 3-400 for a scope and that compressor at 1500.00. hmmm, might have to annoy the neighbors a little longer. Great description and pointers
Trust me it's not as expensive as he advertised for a compressor and a scope. Unfortunately he is paid to endorse his sponsors products and ignore both the value compressors that are good for about 300 dollars, and the exact same scope as the the 4-14× 44 FFP from Element Optics for 200 dollars under the name Ewiema. Same parts, same scope, same great piece of glass. Just "assembled" in China and yes I get it. However, how many people still buy Honda,Toyota,and Lexus vehicles and use Tik Tok daily but only buy U.S. made products? 🤷♂️🤦♂️
@@yukonjack. Search GX CS2 pcp air compressor. I've used it for well over a year with no problems. Can be found from 279.00 to 329.00 depending how hard you look. Great compressor for the price.
Hey thanks for giving us a suggestion on the compressor. The rifle sounds great but not if you can't get a compressor that won't die after a year. Do you have a long term review on the hill compressor? Thanks for your reviews as always.
Just curious, most of my neighbors are anywhere from 100 ft to 300 yards away. They are not 20 ft from my muzzle. Maybe in the future you could show us the db reading from100 ft to 100 yards?? Just curious. Thanks for the informative video.
Hey there BC.. I hate doing DB readings because they are so subjective. I've only added them back in because folks want some sort of reference point. I'm at 4600 feet.. so what you may hear at 100 feet or 100 yards at my location, in the wide-open, is not relevant to any other application.. but up close, knowing that I'm getting 106 and other guns may get more or less, that provides a reference point, even if it's a small one. I'll keep doing it this way and if another reviewer wants to take noise level at range, that would be cool for them to do. As a note, at 100 feet, the report of this gun would be minimal. Cheers AGW
There's been a few issues with Avenger plastic stock possibly coursing POI shift,will wood stock be a solution and plastic stock been hold sensitive, the pic rail been wobbly on original plastic stock
I have the Avenger in .25 and .22. with the plastic stock. I shimmed both the front and back pic rails level to the breech on both the .22 and .25. I put blue loctite on the pic rail screws, the barrel band screws, the shroud screw, the stock bolt and my scope rail screws. I haven't experience any point of impact shifts.
@@Joe-mr1wn I too had to shim the top picatinny rails to level them before putting on my scope. Used a playing card to get the thickness needed to level them.
I like the looks of a wood gun but i bet if you check with Pyramyd air the synthetic/plastic stock version will out sell this wood by 3 to 1 or more. First it is not offered in .177 Cal and second wood scratches so if you use it a lot they don’t hold up anywhere near as well as the other. I also have decided Pyramyd air is promoting .22 cal more than any other and why I don’t know but most of us who shoot a lot especially back yard and pest much prefer the .177 cal. Keep reviewing what they send you but occasionally ask them for a .177 cal. There are a lot of us out here.
Hey there. Thanks for reaching out. There is a reason for me not going “negative” on what I review. I get to pick what I review. If a product does not make the cut, I don’t review it. If there are some objective but what I think are important points to mention, I mention them. My focus is to show you all what works, not what doesn’t work, and to give raw numbers and data without cometary letting you all decide if the data lines up with what you are looking for. Cheers AGW
Take a guess at what’s left out. The problems and problems and more problems that customers are having with this gun. With that said I just ordered one. Lol. Glutton for punishment
Both wood stock guns have shot great. No issues at all. Not sure about early models, but these shoot and operate without any issues. Complete joy to shoot. Cheers AGW
You are correct in the fact that this rifle has had many issues from leaks to more importantly known bad valves. A wood stock will not change any of that..
I've had my Avenger .25 about one month after it first came out,no major issues,pic rail flexes,fitted Donnyfl Adapter and Sumo,shooting NSA slugs atm 2700psi 910fps also fitted a barrel band.
@@drekceldude I did not say every single rifle had problems correct? Let's just be honest and say this is a cheap ass PCP plain and simple. Problems are abound with this thing and all you need to do is a simple search to find them. This is not some rifle that will last and you can pass it down to your children or anything like that because it's made as cheap as possible with the least expensive parts they can throw in it... You get what you pay for more or less.
Thanks for putting this up. I was planning on a Marauder F&T as my first PCP but my bud is telling me I should look at the one you are reviewing. If you have experience with the Marauder also, which of the two would you recommend as my first PCP rifle?
Hi my friends! I would do almost anything for a compressor! Im a 48 yr old leg amputee that uses a hand pump and Im about ready to give up PCP airguns 😢😢 With my prosthetic leg and poor health Im constantly losing my balance and it takes me FOREVER! By the time I am done, Im too tired to shoot and feel like my heart will EXPLODE! If there is a company out there, or anybody that would be willing to donate a compressor to a fellow man that LOVES his one PCP AVENGER BULLPUP you would be giving me the gift of my life! Please help!
You know it really doesn't matter between the wood or the synthetic stock the guns made in China and it's not going to hold up you just taking a chinese-made gun and put it on a wooden stock if not going to change the outcome of it falling apart
I have had my avenger in .22 plastic for quite some time now. I’ve had zero issues with it. Here’s my take on the wood, it’s about the aesthetics. Plastic stock bothers a lot of people but if you’re caring it around the woods all day the weight factor is important. After using that Gun for many many hours I know what I can do and I know what the Gun can . I’ll sit down with anybody that’s got a Woodstock and match them hole for a hole , that’s how I feel about it. Like I said the advantage to me of the plastic stock is when you’re carrying it around in the woods there’s a big difference in the weight factor. The squirrels in the stew don’t know if they got shot with a plastic stock or Woodstock
Everyone was screaming about the stock so they changed it up toward. They also change the price. Buy the plastic and spend the extra money on a pie and scope you won’t regret it
I like the plastic stock. But I would take whatever is in stock.
Most people want the wood stock/we don't walk around in the woods with it anyways !
I have a .22 and .25 with the plastic stock. I bought both when they were selling for $299. The wood stock specs say that the weigh 7lbs and the plastic stock 6.4lbs so weight isn't an issue. Having said that I would still get the plastic stock if I were buying today. The wood stock isn't going to improve accuracy so I would use the $80.00 difference in price to buy pellets.
I BOUGHT MY AIR VENTURI FROM UTAH AIR GUNS AND STRAIGHT OUT THE BOX WITH THE 22 CALIBER I GOT 1110 FPS WITH A 18.13 GR PELLET 😋😋👍👍👍
Waaaayyyy too fast. Tune it down to low/mid 900’s. Accuracy will be much better
Factory settings for PSI is 2900. Bring it down to 2000.
Dudeeeeee ! 👀 tomorrow I will be receiving mine !
Going to give the FX hybrids a shot😎
Yeah the wood air venturi avenger is nice . ...having just bought an air rifle, next time I'm shopping for a rifle I'll definitely give the avenger a look for sure. ...another great video rick.take care
When will the avenger be available 😢 😔 and pellets....I like wood stock, I have the 25 cal ,very accurate gun ...
What a great vid to watch as I disassemble, troubleshoot, and fix my jank ass Umarex Origin pump. Smh...
My origin pump quit after about twenty fills and was able to repair it , sorry to hear that you are having similar problems ,the rifle is great but the pump is not so great ,good luck
@@matthewvannoy500 it's a love hate relationship lol.
That one was my second choice real nice gun i like the 25 because I have the origin 22 coming thanks for your hard work on the reviews i appreciate you.
What ? A PCP that doesn't look like something from a scifi or WW3 movie ? Outstanding 😁👍👍👍
No spaceships !
Not a huge fan of the double barrel shotgun look but it's ok lol
Set the reg to 1500 and the hammer spring to about 1.5 to 2 turns in from all the way counterclockwise and call it good. Crazy power with reg set all the way down there.
Do they sell just the stock?? I have the plastic version and love it and would like to have the wood stock on it.
Thats what i want too know
I’m sorry to be critical but no you really don’t need a compressor. You don’t need to fill this to 4300. It will work fine at 3-3.5k. You just aren’t going to get as many shots. I know you know this but it misleads new airgunners. I’ve read many pump reviews complaining it won’t get my avenger to 4K. I want to yell..then pump it to 3k it will be fine!! As you stated in the video 2900 on the reg is crazy. You can drop it all the way to 1800 and get 870 out of an 18 gr pellet. Then you can shoot from a 3 k fill down to 1800 and still get a good shot count.
If you want to get all the shots you can you need to fill to 300 bar. If you are happy to hand pump to less you certainly can. But to to get the most out of this gun, you should take it to 300 bar.
Cheers
AGW
When I first bought my avenger I think it took me 180 pumps to get it all the way to 4300 and it wasn't bad... You can use a hand pump for it I didn't even break a sweat and I'm 45 years old 😋👍🎯🎯🎯🎯
@@KINGBREAKBARREL While I understand you can pump the rifle up. Its a pain in the butt. If you only hunt, this is not a big deal. Target shooting a full tin of pellets is another story. I have hand pumped rifles all day long. Even at 3365 psi max its a pain when shooting targets all day.
I agree with buying the personal compressor. I bought the Nomad 2.
If your not 60 years old Lol.
This is an awesome rifle. It's starting to look like airguns are going the way of computers, flat screen TVs and cellphones. The technology is trickling down to the lower priced guns.
Before long you will see a comparison between a $500 and $2,000 dollar gun. And there won't be much difference.
Heith, I think we are already there. I bought the Daystate Redwolf ($2900) to discuss this very point. At 50 yards, I don't think you'll see much difference. Where the difference will start to play out is when you get to 75 and 100 yards. Can't wait to start sharing that footage.
Cheers
AGW
Great summary. I’d like to know if they’ve changed the poppet? Y’all saying your black plastic stock is running fine that’s good but it’s a matter of time. Hope you get to hold onto longer Rick.
Keep up the good work.
The jsb redesigns work great in that
I preordered mine from PA a couple of weeks ago. They are still out of stock though they are expecting them to be in on the 27th. I’m hoping so.
All these great things about it, but you forgot to say it's "AMAZING"!
Next video ;)
Cheers
AGW
Need to bring it to an Xtreme Field Target match. I think it can win. Plan on a base/ budget class next September at Phoenix Rod and Gun Club.
Great vid Rick ! I dunno I just have a hand pump. Got a compressor just haven't got around to unboxing it yet its the Chinese model with the writing on the side.
Man you lost weight. Great job! I watch your RUclips to get info before I buy a air gun!
Are my eyes fooling me, or is there a hole on the picantini rail to put a swivel to sling it as well?
Question: If I detune the avenger 22 to produce 15 flbs, how many regulated shots would the rifle give me per fill?
A lot. I’m going to be able to do another video with this one then it is going back. But I have some on order for AirGunProShop.com and will be able to pick up where I leave off.
Cheers
AGW
What do you mean by a lot ? 100 shots? 200shots? 300 shots? Per fill
I don’t know. We will have to test it to find out. But I would imagine double the shot count.
Cheers
AGW
Based on what I've seen probably at least 200
Kindly Shorten the talks and pls kindly complete the accuracy with full cam thanks
I've been jonesing for one of these just to shoot quietly instead of .22's, and .556 and figured for 450.00, but then 3-400 for a scope and that compressor at 1500.00. hmmm, might have to annoy the neighbors a little longer. Great description and pointers
Trust me it's not as expensive as he advertised for a compressor and a scope. Unfortunately he is paid to endorse his sponsors products and ignore both the value compressors that are good for about 300 dollars, and the exact same scope as the the 4-14× 44 FFP from Element Optics for 200 dollars under the name Ewiema. Same parts, same scope, same great piece of glass. Just "assembled" in China and yes I get it. However, how many people still buy Honda,Toyota,and Lexus vehicles and use Tik Tok daily but only buy U.S. made products? 🤷♂️🤦♂️
@@apb7033 Good advice, how about the compressor? ✌️
@@yukonjack. Search GX CS2 pcp air compressor. I've used it for well over a year with no problems. Can be found from 279.00 to 329.00 depending how hard you look. Great compressor for the price.
Personally, I prefer the non-grainy camera at the target.
PS: when you say "In the wind" can you give us some idea of how much wind?
Hey thanks for giving us a suggestion on the compressor. The rifle sounds great but not if you can't get a compressor that won't die after a year. Do you have a long term review on the hill compressor? Thanks for your reviews as always.
Will the wood stock be available for sale for people that already bought the plastic stock?
Just curious, most of my neighbors are anywhere from 100 ft to 300 yards away. They are not 20 ft from my muzzle. Maybe in the future you could show us the db reading from100 ft to 100 yards?? Just curious. Thanks for the informative video.
Hey there BC.. I hate doing DB readings because they are so subjective. I've only added them back in because folks want some sort of reference point. I'm at 4600 feet.. so what you may hear at 100 feet or 100 yards at my location, in the wide-open, is not relevant to any other application.. but up close, knowing that I'm getting 106 and other guns may get more or less, that provides a reference point, even if it's a small one. I'll keep doing it this way and if another reviewer wants to take noise level at range, that would be cool for them to do. As a note, at 100 feet, the report of this gun would be minimal.
Cheers
AGW
There's been a few issues with Avenger plastic stock possibly coursing POI shift,will wood stock be a solution and plastic stock been hold sensitive, the pic rail been wobbly on original plastic stock
I have the Avenger in .25 and .22. with the plastic stock. I shimmed both the front and back pic rails level to the breech on both the .22 and .25. I put blue loctite on the pic rail screws, the barrel band screws, the shroud screw, the stock bolt and my scope rail screws. I haven't experience any point of impact shifts.
@@Joe-mr1wn I too had to shim the top picatinny rails to level them before putting on my scope. Used a playing card to get the thickness needed to level them.
@@rsa3462 I used strips of aluminum foil and foil tape as shims. I wanted to use something that wouldn't be affected by moisture.
Get the donniefl adapter with the sumo mouse fart quiet
I ordered two yesterday.. We'll be able to try them out shortly.
Cheers
AGW
I like the looks of a wood gun but i bet if you check with Pyramyd air the synthetic/plastic stock version will out sell this wood by 3 to 1 or more. First it is not offered in .177 Cal and second wood scratches so if you use it a lot they don’t hold up anywhere near as well as the other. I also have decided Pyramyd air is promoting .22 cal more than any other and why I don’t know but most of us who shoot a lot especially back yard and pest much prefer the .177 cal. Keep reviewing what they send you but occasionally ask them for a .177 cal. There are a lot of us out here.
Rick, thanks very much for doing these videos, you do a great job .... but.
I never hear you being really critical of anything you review???
Hey there. Thanks for reaching out. There is a reason for me not going “negative” on what I review. I get to pick what I review. If a product does not make the cut, I don’t review it. If there are some objective but what I think are important points to mention, I mention them. My focus is to show you all what works, not what doesn’t work, and to give raw numbers and data without cometary letting you all decide if the data lines up with what you are looking for.
Cheers
AGW
Take a guess at what’s left out. The problems and problems and more problems that customers are having with this gun. With that said I just ordered one. Lol. Glutton for punishment
Both wood stock guns have shot great. No issues at all. Not sure about early models, but these shoot and operate without any issues. Complete joy to shoot.
Cheers
AGW
I hope you are correct. Still reading of many leak issues on new guns.
You are correct in the fact that this rifle has had many issues from leaks to more importantly known bad valves. A wood stock will not change any of that..
I've had my Avenger .25 about one month after it first came out,no major issues,pic rail flexes,fitted Donnyfl Adapter and Sumo,shooting NSA slugs atm 2700psi 910fps also fitted a barrel band.
@@drekceldude I did not say every single rifle had problems correct? Let's just be honest and say this is a cheap ass PCP plain and simple. Problems are abound with this thing and all you need to do is a simple search to find them. This is not some rifle that will last and you can pass it down to your children or anything like that because it's made as cheap as possible with the least expensive parts they can throw in it... You get what you pay for more or less.
Can i buy the stock only ?
I was one of the people who got one with the POS ! plastic stock.
@@jimomalley1518 That is a really good question...I'd like to know as well. I'll see what I can find out.
@@airgunangie17 thx Angie.
@@jimomalley1518 Rick said they’re not available right now but believes they will become available.
@@airgunangie17 in different colors also?
Do .177 calibre video please 🙏
Did your Avenger have regulator creep?
All ima say is jsb MKII
What makes it "Old School?"
Thanks for putting this up. I was planning on a Marauder F&T as my first PCP but my bud is telling me I should look at the one you are reviewing. If you have experience with the Marauder also, which of the two would you recommend as my first PCP rifle?
Marauder hits a little harder but has a less shot count
shame we cant get this air rifle in the UK
Hi my friends! I would do almost anything for a compressor! Im a 48 yr old leg amputee that uses a hand pump and Im about ready to give up PCP airguns 😢😢 With my prosthetic leg and poor health Im constantly losing my balance and it takes me FOREVER! By the time I am done, Im too tired to shoot and feel like my heart will EXPLODE!
If there is a company out there, or anybody that would be willing to donate a compressor to a fellow man that LOVES his one PCP AVENGER BULLPUP you would be giving me the gift of my life! Please help!
That gun is not for me it don,t have a adjustable cheek please I use hi rings and a hi rise rails
Does this guy like hearing himself talk or what
It son,t work
You know it really doesn't matter between the wood or the synthetic stock the guns made in China and it's not going to hold up you just taking a chinese-made gun and put it on a wooden stock if not going to change the outcome of it falling apart