AIRGUN REVIEW - Air Venturi Avenger Wood Stock 22 Cal - Tuning the Regulator for the JSB 18.13!

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  • Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
  • Today we’ll take another look at the Air Venturi Avenger Wood Stock in .22 Caliber. We are going to optimize the regulator for the JSB 18.13 pellets and see what kind of shot count improvement we can get.
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  • @randygriffin2033
    @randygriffin2033 3 года назад +3

    That gun is all that for the money. I’ve got a 22, and 25 I can’t say enough about this gun . And Rick I love your videos someone can learn all they need to know about whatever gun you demo. If anyone is on the fence about a low cost pcp this is the one to get you will no doubt be happy you did . Be safe my friend and keep them coming

  • @buijs1967
    @buijs1967 3 года назад +6

    Now try to reduce hammerspring tension untill velocity drops, it will cock lighter and possibly give you even more shots. Thank you for your informative video's.

  • @waynerobinson2656
    @waynerobinson2656 3 года назад +4

    Great tuning demo Rick. Thanks for posting.

  • @amadomata459
    @amadomata459 Год назад +1

    Great marksmanship. Thank you for the video. Best to you et alia.

  • @terminadorairgunsandoutdoors
    @terminadorairgunsandoutdoors 2 года назад +3

    Yong Hang cpmpressor can fill probably 3 times as fast as that

  • @heithwatkins
    @heithwatkins 3 года назад +3

    Excellent video brother. This is the type of information that I love.
    Thank you.
    God bless you. 🎯🎯🎯

  • @kurtfirestone2761
    @kurtfirestone2761 3 года назад +5

    Thank you for doing a review on a .22 instead of always doing 25 and 30

  • @zerlgi
    @zerlgi 3 года назад +7

    Hi Rick.. Thanks for the tuning vid. Did you make any hammerspring adjustments as well? (I only heard regulator adjustments)

  • @charlesdees281
    @charlesdees281 3 года назад +1

    Every year your videos get better and better. Good job 👍

  • @heathhalfhill6401
    @heathhalfhill6401 2 года назад +2

    The Nova Vista Liberty .22 is exactly the same or at the very least extremely close in accuracy values. Excellent value for dollar.

  • @ral446
    @ral446 2 года назад

    Thanks for this info Rick. I just got the Avenger Bullpup in .22 cal and this will give me a good place to start. I've got plenty of JSB 18.13 gr pellets so I should be able to come pretty close to duplicating your results. If I can, I'll be happy shooting those groups at 50 yards.

  • @saadshamoon8034
    @saadshamoon8034 3 года назад +1

    Nice video, the rifle looks very nice with wood stock much better , thanks for the review ,

  • @jackduper9719
    @jackduper9719 3 года назад +2

    My Avenger in 22cal had a problem with the scope rail, I don't know if it is just my airgun or if it's all of them, but I put a level on the rail, and the front section of the rail was not level with the rear section, so if I put my scope on the gun, it was not lined up with the barrel very good, I took of the front clam shells exposing the air tube, and I leveled the gun by putting my level on the side of the regulator housing where the air tubes and barrel are attached, with the gun level I checked the rails again and I found that the rear section of the rail was leaning one way and the front was leaning the opposite way, both were not level with the regulator, it seems like some people are having trouble zeroing their scopes or they have to use shims, I'm not advising anyone to do this, I'm just telling you what I did, I took of both the rear and front rail and used a file to take of material from the bottom of the rail on one side little by little and putting it back on the gun and checking if it was level, until it was level, my problem was solved, I hope this helps guys, have a good one.

  • @deanflory4520
    @deanflory4520 Год назад +2

    I bought a benjamin recharge compressor fill my fx marvick with a 580cc bottle on it in about 3 minutes, it can fill up to 4500lb.

  • @marcegrecco53
    @marcegrecco53 3 года назад +1

    I got barrel bands from Bonacci Goods to help stiffen up the barrel and I made the stock darker and finished it with truOil and wax.

    • @schlomoshekelstein908
      @schlomoshekelstein908 3 года назад

      did you sand the stock down first?

    • @schlomoshekelstein908
      @schlomoshekelstein908 3 года назад

      how did you strip the coating off the stock to stain it? edit: nevermind,you have a whole video series on it, subscribed.

  • @ricardoardoino132
    @ricardoardoino132 3 года назад +3

    Excelente video, cuantas vuelta de resorte de martillo tiene esta configuracion?, gracias

  • @salsavillo9991
    @salsavillo9991 3 года назад +4

    Great Video. I was hoping you would address hammer spring adjust

    • @AirGunWeb
      @AirGunWeb  3 года назад

      That is a whole other video. But maybe I can get Airgun Angie to do it.
      Cheers
      AGW

    • @salsavillo9991
      @salsavillo9991 3 года назад

      @@AirGunWeb Thanks. Take care

    • @vetteconnoisseur9531
      @vetteconnoisseur9531 3 года назад

      Hammer spring adjustment works in conjunction with regulator adjustment...no offense, but you could've gained velocity and accuracy for a 50-55 shot tune

    • @josefigueroa941
      @josefigueroa941 2 года назад

      @@vetteconnoisseur9531 do a video and show us of what you're talking about.

  • @danshouseofsmokeandoutdoor7119
    @danshouseofsmokeandoutdoor7119 3 года назад +3

    I am really considering this air rifle. Can’t decide between this or the umarex gauntlet 2 when back in stock.

    • @yukonjack.
      @yukonjack. 3 года назад +2

      I'm thinking the same thing, yeah this is a nice gun right now but how long is that Chinese gun going to last? and only a one year warranty. Umarex is supposed to be made in Germany and America. 3 yr warranty.

  • @rasberryrl
    @rasberryrl 2 года назад +1

    Thanks Rick, You didn't mention the hammer spring setting? where was it set, how did you determine where to adjust it?

  • @jrsoto1000
    @jrsoto1000 3 года назад +3

    Nice rifle. Would like to see a .177 slug video soon for moderately prices rifles.. 😉

    • @heithwatkins
      @heithwatkins 3 года назад +1

      Same here. 👍

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 3 года назад +1

      Jsb is coming out with the knockout 177 slugs. Check out the vid from the airgun expo where they demo them.

    • @lavernedofelmier6496
      @lavernedofelmier6496 3 года назад +2

      I have a Diana Stormrider gen 1, installed a regulator set for 150 bar will send NSA .178 - 12.5 gr slugs @ 900 fps. Due to the regulator I fill the gun to 220 bar for 18 full power shots . I’m old and shaky but the rifle will consistently do a dime @ 60 yards, can’t see any further 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @Laserwurks
    @Laserwurks Год назад

    Very nice

  • @ponz924
    @ponz924 2 года назад +1

    Why didn't you mess with the hammer spring at all???

  • @numizaairguns1373
    @numizaairguns1373 3 года назад +1

    Great video buddy. Avenge wood stock it's awesome pcp

  • @markbatti502
    @markbatti502 3 года назад +1

    I love the new gauntlet 2 .25 cal. I want to get it for my first PCP air gun. Love your shows.

    • @tedsell1455
      @tedsell1455 Год назад

      Looking at the .30 but so Heavy

  • @FarmerFpv
    @FarmerFpv 2 года назад +1

    What was your hammer spring tension set at from all the way in tasting out? Thanks appreciate the excellent review and tuning.

  • @kamikazehunter
    @kamikazehunter 3 года назад +2

    Put some .217 Knockouts slugs in that gun please. Bet you will be surprized

  • @crawford323
    @crawford323 3 года назад +2

    How does the durability of an entry level gun vs others which are more expensive compare? Do we know what alloys are used in one vs another? Have bushings and bearings been used on high wear areas in the more expensive products or do we know?

    • @brianwest5348
      @brianwest5348 3 года назад +1

      I also would like to know. The price difference has to come from somewhere.

  • @tuankienmai5789
    @tuankienmai5789 2 года назад +1

    Hello! Do you think the Avenger is as good as Weihrauch's HW100? I'm hesitating between these two guns.

  • @nonsheep924
    @nonsheep924 2 года назад +1

    No hammer spring adjustments???

  • @robert7984
    @robert7984 3 года назад +2

    I own the .25. It keeps up with my FX with ease. I'll never EVER spend a $1000.00+ on any air rifle again...Ill use the extra for ammo,scopes ect.

    • @vetteconnoisseur9531
      @vetteconnoisseur9531 3 года назад

      Thats a ridiculous statement...the Avenger is a very good entry level PCP but that's like saying I'm not going to buy a Dodge Hellcat again because my KIA Stinger is just as good on the race track

  • @kenroman777
    @kenroman777 2 года назад +1

    Where can you buy that chronograph that talks to you?

  • @daleweller5193
    @daleweller5193 2 года назад

    Great video.

  • @jimbograves1576
    @jimbograves1576 3 года назад +3

    Ah man! I was really getting into this rifle in .25. The price is fantastic. All ready to go then started looking at compressors. Holy crap! I'm looking at $1k for turn key ready to go. Screw it, I'll stick to rimfires.

    • @wushigung
      @wushigung 2 года назад +1

      ¯\_ಠ_ಠ_/¯ where I live you'd have angry neighbors but what I do nobody can even hear it and the raccoons are delicious :-)

    • @pricelessppp
      @pricelessppp 2 года назад +1

      I got a GX pump for 340. Worth it man that was my first complaint when I saw the price tag.

    • @wildrangeringreen
      @wildrangeringreen 2 года назад +1

      hand pumps are 150 or less, decent compressors can be had for sub-$600. "reviewers" tend to go with Gucci brands, because they're sponsored, that doesn't mean you have to.
      I have to laugh when people whine about hand pumping a small reservoir gun like the avenger, meanwhile I handpump my 62ci capacity monster to 4500psi lol

  • @paytonmac5665
    @paytonmac5665 2 года назад

    TY great vid

  • @Steve-wz5pz
    @Steve-wz5pz 2 года назад +1

    I can buy four (4) Tuxing compressors for what that Hill cost. The value proposition just isn't there.

    • @wushigung
      @wushigung 2 года назад +1

      I got a tuxing twin cylinder and two molecular sieve filters so I can fill my SCBA tanks in 40 minutes!
      Not only that but I fill them to 4,650. That gives me a thousand PSI under the burst disc limit but I know that tank will take way over 11,000 PSI so it's not going to do anything crazy now I can always fill my gun to Maximum. Of course I do this in my air conditioned house so when I go out here in Florida it's always over 80 degrees and the pressure will continue to rise :-)

  • @joshuagibson2520
    @joshuagibson2520 3 года назад +2

    Damn... I have this dilemma of wanting an Avenger, a Kayak, and an HPA compressor all at once. decisions, decisions...

    • @rasberryrl
      @rasberryrl 2 года назад

      Same here buddy! throw in a E-Bike (wife's idea), A downward scan fish finder, and a new Bullpup (I already have the Avenger wood).

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 2 года назад

      @@rasberryrl well. 10 months later... lol. Got my kayak. Also have an Umarex Origin and a Yong Heng compressor! Woohoo!

  • @siphumlemalgas2364
    @siphumlemalgas2364 2 года назад

    Great tunning Rick, please assist me in tunning for h&n slugs 23gr in 218 please

  • @redgreen6436
    @redgreen6436 3 года назад +1

    I'm waiting for the tactical version.

    • @marcegrecco53
      @marcegrecco53 3 года назад

      Bonacci Goods carries a tactical chassie for the Avenger

  • @drekceldude
    @drekceldude 3 года назад +1

    Shouldn't you be tuning for accuracy not shot count ?

  • @kevintravis2154
    @kevintravis2154 3 года назад +1

    Rick can we buy just the wood stock?

  • @slunghu9815
    @slunghu9815 3 года назад +2

    Why can't it tune down with air in the tube?

    • @mikekupetsky6879
      @mikekupetsky6879 3 года назад

      You can't turn the pressure down while there is pressure inside the regulator it will damage the regulator

  • @christianjones4691
    @christianjones4691 10 месяцев назад

    Is the 2200 setting with the factory hammer spring setting or did you adjust the hammer spring?

  • @joshuagibson2520
    @joshuagibson2520 3 года назад +2

    I'm curious if tuned down to say, 860-880ish fps using hammer spring adjustment, could a person get another 2 mags or 70 total shots on the reg at that 2300 psi?

    • @zerlgi
      @zerlgi 3 года назад +1

      I get 90 shots, with reg at about 1 Bar. Shooting 850fps 15 gr JSB pellets.

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 3 года назад

      @@zerlgi hell yeah. Where's your hammer spring set?

    • @nobs2767
      @nobs2767 2 года назад

      1 bar? 14 psi?

    • @vamonosdecaceria5005
      @vamonosdecaceria5005 2 года назад

      @@zerlgi ola amigo quieres decir 100 bar con cuantas vueltas del martillo

  • @joznew1
    @joznew1 3 года назад +1

    'd rather wait and buy the gauntlet 2. more power, more shots, no regulator creep, easy fix if leaking.

    • @robert7984
      @robert7984 3 года назад

      No reg creep on the gauntlet 2. First I've heard. My Gauntlet has the Ninja reg and it even creeps some. My .25 Avenger crept 100 to 150lbs for like a month. Not anymore. Steady as a rock.

    • @joznew1
      @joznew1 3 года назад

      @@robert7984 how did you fix the avenger reg creep ?

    • @schlomoshekelstein908
      @schlomoshekelstein908 3 года назад +1

      @@joznew1 it settles after a few fills/adjustments. it fixes itself

  • @kurtfirestone2761
    @kurtfirestone2761 3 года назад +1

    The avenger definitely needs bigger gauges they are so hard to read

  • @Ryland35767
    @Ryland35767 2 года назад +1

    Did your Avenger have regulator creep?

  • @user-mp4bl2ic3m
    @user-mp4bl2ic3m 2 года назад

    good video

  • @DanielGarcia-zw8nx
    @DanielGarcia-zw8nx 3 года назад +1

    I would like one in 25 cal. I have the origin in 22 thanks to you Rick and I love it to much but I need a compressor first b/c Travis said not to hand pump it can you tell me why? Thanks Rick for all the info.

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 3 года назад +1

      It's just a lot of work. You CAN handpump and Avenger, no problem. No one recommends it because it's not a fun proposition.

    • @paulgroth3345
      @paulgroth3345 3 года назад +5

      I hand pump my .25 doing 50 pumps at a time. I am 75 years old. You need enough body weight and technique. I have no trouble getting 4000 psi.

  • @Drlaserzz
    @Drlaserzz 3 года назад +1

    Just searched for this 2 hours ago now its here. Trying to decide between .25 and .22 for hunting out to around 75 yards for small game.

    • @AirGunWeb
      @AirGunWeb  3 года назад +2

      Both will work well. If you want just small game and more shots, then go for the .22.
      Cheers
      AGW

  • @kevine9986
    @kevine9986 2 года назад +1

    Hammer spring Wilber

  • @Jeeper1378
    @Jeeper1378 9 месяцев назад

    Where was the hs when filming this?

  • @vansantsam
    @vansantsam 2 года назад +1

    Once you have the regulator set, shouldn't you tune the hammer to the new regulator setting? From what I have heard, shouldn't you set the hammer so you get a few feet slower than the max velocity.. This would assure best efficiency and not waste any unnecessary air..

    • @AirGunWeb
      @AirGunWeb  2 года назад

      You can tweak forever chasing that extra shot or extra FPS. I’ve found that it’s more than close enough to just tune the REG, but for those that want to go the extra mile, sure. Go for it.
      Cheers
      AGW

    • @vansantsam
      @vansantsam 2 года назад

      @@AirGunWeb If you have too much hammer then not only are you wasting air (hammer bounce) but also allowing air from the main tube to influence the velocity, as the air will rush past the regulator before it has time to close, because the output valve is open for too long.. I think it would be better to not use all the air in the regulator, I think this would help with efficiency and also extreme spread and consistency.. I think I would start with a low hammer and bring it up until I reach max velocity and then back it of some.. If you are going to do some tuning then doing all of it makes more sense than just doing part of it, it doesn't take that much more time..

    • @AirGunWeb
      @AirGunWeb  2 года назад

      @@vansantsam - Richard.. in my work with the avenger.. I have not seen it make much of a difference. There are guns where it really matters. I have not found this to be one of them which is why I didn't spend any time on it other than to mention that you can adjust the hammer spring if you like. Of course, what "doesn't matter" to me may be all the world of difference to someone else.
      Cheers
      AGW

    • @vansantsam
      @vansantsam 2 года назад

      @@AirGunWeb No matter if a rifle is regulated or not or if it is an Avenger or Daystate or FX.. all are influenced by the hammer, this is so critical that many have easily adjustable hammers and some have anti-bounce features built in.. Proper hammer adjustment is more critical on a regulated rifle than a non-regulated one.. I would suggest to watch all of Robert Lanes videos on regulators and hammer adjustments.. You can do as you wish but if I go to the extent of adjusting a regulator then I will spend an extra few minutes to adjust the hammer to the proper setting to match the regulator, it only takes a few minutes.. You can decrease extreme spread on a regulated rifle with proper hammer adjustment, you can also eliminate (tune out) incline and decline in power from a regulator with proper hammer adjustment.. Steve, from AEAC did a video on exactly what I have mentioned.. (how to flatten extreme spread between shots and how to tune out a steady increase or decrease in FPS from your regulator.. Robert Lane also addresses these issues.. Adjusting the regulator is only half the job.. If you are going to this extent then finishing the job is part of the process.. Whenever you make a change with your regulator you also have to adjust the hammer, that is almost a cardinal rule.. To down play this important part leave me wondering..

    • @AirGunWeb
      @AirGunWeb  2 года назад

      @@vansantsam - you are missing the point. I don’t disagree with you that there are differences to be seen and advantages to be had. But, they are sometimes not significant enough to mess with (for most shooters). I represent “most shooters” where 95% of the way is close enough and the time and energy to get the last 5% simply isn’t worth “my” time. It may be worth your time and energy and that’s great! I did not find tinkering with the hammer spring, with the the reg at max usable pressure, worth any time on the avenger. Now, drop the reg way down, you would probably do well to back off the hammer spring a bit. That was not what this video was about.
      Cheers
      AGW

  • @crawford323
    @crawford323 3 года назад +1

    18.13 grains?

  • @joshuagibson2520
    @joshuagibson2520 3 года назад +1

    I like that chrony, but not so much the voice. If we could get a model with Sue doing the speaking would be cool though!

  • @kurtfirestone2761
    @kurtfirestone2761 3 года назад +1

    I have found that in my 22 avenger that the FX 15.9 grain shoot the best

    • @rasberryrl
      @rasberryrl 2 года назад

      Mines shoots just about any pellet good (most of them great), and it shoots All slugs terribly smh...check out the Crossman copper mags 14.4 at about 1500 PSI on the reg.

    • @vamonosdecaceria5005
      @vamonosdecaceria5005 2 года назад

      @@rasberryrl hay te agrupo mejor en el regulador

  • @jeffalessi
    @jeffalessi 3 года назад +1

    What scope are you using for this review?

    • @AirGunWeb
      @AirGunWeb  3 года назад +1

      Hawke Vantage 30 Wind Angle, side focus, first focal plane. Awesome scope.
      Cheers
      AGW

  • @sat20387
    @sat20387 3 года назад +6

    I can't believe your resting that gun on the scope

    • @benningsniper9516
      @benningsniper9516 2 года назад +1

      Dude if your optic can't handle that then it's garbage

    • @sat20387
      @sat20387 2 года назад

      @@benningsniper9516 that's why you can't hit the bullseye

    • @benningsniper9516
      @benningsniper9516 2 года назад +1

      @@sat20387 leaning a gun on an optic for a few seconds isn't going to fo anything to it.
      Educated yourself.

  • @davidberkley839
    @davidberkley839 3 года назад +2

    My .25 cal likes 25/2600 psi

    • @BOTzerker
      @BOTzerker 3 года назад

      How many shots do you get?

    • @BOTzerker
      @BOTzerker 3 года назад

      @@timmy4539 The .25 wood stock Avenger is my first PCP gun. Once I'm done with my air dryer filter system, my goal is 40 shots per fill as I have 5x 8 round magazines.

    • @stuartspigner984
      @stuartspigner984 3 года назад

      @@BOTzerker qp

  • @lon8983
    @lon8983 3 года назад

    The performance, price, and trigger are great, but too much power for my current environment. How far DOWN can you tune the power level in the .22?

    • @schlomoshekelstein908
      @schlomoshekelstein908 3 года назад

      700 fps 14.3 grains. that's at 1100 regulator /w hammer spring all the way out

    • @lon8983
      @lon8983 3 года назад

      @@schlomoshekelstein908 excellent. Thank you!

    • @vonclod123
      @vonclod123 3 года назад

      @@schlomoshekelstein908 Wow, how many shots you get? I'm just starting to play around with tuning.

    • @OscarzProductions
      @OscarzProductions 3 года назад +1

      @@vonclod123 not the person you're asking, but I'm tuned to 1900 with about 1.5 turns on the hammer and I get somewhere between 70-90 shots

    • @vonclod123
      @vonclod123 3 года назад +1

      @@OscarzProductions All good, thanks for your input, that is pretty much exactly where I'm at, 1900-ish and 1.5 on the hammerspring. Still getting almost 900fps on a 14g pellet.

  • @wadedeeds1738
    @wadedeeds1738 2 года назад +1

    Love your videos. But you over kill on everything you do. Js.

  • @mikerosales15
    @mikerosales15 Год назад

    How many turns on hammerspring. Tho