@@christinachoi5679 You’re completely right. Looking back on it, it was quite shallow to only commend English teachers for assigning this video when in reality we should commend any educator who assigns this video. Going to edit my comment right now!
@@christinachoi5679my PE teacher assigned this to tell us we’re wrong about him watching us shower through a hole in the wall. Very ignorant to assume English teachers. He’s not even from England!
"How does it feel to be wrong, before you know you are wrong? It feels like being right:" Spot on! Well put! I actually always operate from the default position that I am probably wrong. And the more convinced I am about something, the more I try to prove myself wrong. And I am never ever ever as happy as when I am proven wrong, because then I learn something fundamentally new. And THAT is a point she missed totally!. And the only point she missed. This is a wonderful talk.
“Maybe I’m wrong” is the epitome of epistemic humility. Depth of knowledge & insight in any field must always come with at least an equal amount of unknowns.
I watched this right when it came out diring my first year of graduate school. I still watch this every few months even now. This is by far my favorite TED Talk of all time. Her work is so niche yet so desparately needed. Just fantastic. Or I don't know maybe I'm wrong and it sucked.
One of my favourite lectures =] I do try to question whether I am wrong... it allows you to see an alternative view, and it allows you to empathise- something we could all do a little more
very interesting and powerful lecture on the need to be right. I love the words she said at the end, "step out of the terrified space of rightness" I personal have a fear of being wrong because we have been made to think if we are wrong we don't know what we are doing and people will make fun of us and laugh. We must not be afraid to make mistakes and laugh at our own selves because non of us are perfect.
"The less he understands something, the more firmly he believes in it." -Wilhelm Reich Everyone has reasons to convince themselves why the belief they hold is right. Being wrong isn't the real problem, it's the need to feel that we're always right. Perhaps in addition to asking ourselves if we could be wrong, we should first ask ourselves why we want to be right about something we don't fully understand.
Hate being wrong but I feel the most resolution when someone calls me out. It takes time to accept fault tho, be patient and open to change. Life will reward you for learning
Great talk. I was that lil brat in class that answered every single question, right or wrong (50%). But thats how I learn. I crave learning new things, so finding out I am wrong means I just discovered something new!
No, that's living in fear. If you don't fear being wrong then you're not afraid to do things. That's true confidence, confidence that being wrong is ok.
Confidence comes from Certainty. Certainty comes from Clarity. Clarity comes from Simplicity. Simplicity comes from Ignoring details. That's why Confidence comes from Ignorance. So the more confident you feel, the greater the chance you are ignoring something.
Being wrong hurts exponentially worse the more you think and/or insist you’re right. It’s a simple idea. If you’re wrong about something minor that you really don’t care about, you laugh it off like the Chinese campground road sign.
I love being wrong because it allows me to open my mind to a new perspective and more importantly learn from that perspective. I don’t care if someone is wrong or not in a discussion it doesn’t change the way I feel about the person at all but if you can admit when your wrong or admit you learned something new from my perspective you gain my respect.
Try this for a change... Everyone talk/think/analyze/judge only about him/ herself for an entire day without blaming/excusing/commenting or even praising whatsoever outside of the Self. This is still a huge challenge for me... But incredible experiences and eternity moments of realization are indescribable. Much blessing to All.
I hear that a lot. That I either haven't read the bible (yes I have) or that my mind isn't open enough. The fact is that as a kid my mind was open enough to believe all the fairy tales I was told in church. Then I started reading and questioning, and not being so close minded to avoid anything contradictory that might upset the peer group and make me question the comforting simplicity of the myths or the certainty of the infinite sadistic punishments.
A military cop taught me, "If you're right, you're right. If you're wrong, you're wrong. But never second guess yourself." Being double-minded is a far worse fate than being wrong, because you never know if you were actually right the whole time. Not that we should settle for being wrong, but we do need to remember that Chaos "uhhh...finds a way" to upset our convictions. Strange stuff happens every day, folks!
The biggest problem is when you know you are wrong and your pride stops you from admitting it. It happends to me all the time, in other people of course ;-)
Dr Robert Burton, wrote about the scientific reasons for this in his book, "On Being Certain." A brilliant read along the same line of logic....highly recommended.
My parents can never admit that theyre wrong and it affected me mentally. Before, i used to be fine when im wrong because i learn something. Now that my parents keep making me always te wrong one, being wrong is more personal than before. Im not going to be like them who cant admit that theyre wrong, but being wrong(whether or not i am) is more damaging.
Thank you Kathyrn, thank you Kerstin! Meg Ryan's character, Joe Versus the Volcano - "my father says there are only a few people awake in the world and they live in absolute constant amazement"
My opinion is that in life; which seems to be such a paradox, we also sometimes have to trust that we are right. Marriage is usually based on a trust in 'the one' an Olympian champion doesn't choose to believe they will fail. Life seems to demand a balance between being open to being wrong, and trusting in yourself you are right, to me anyway.
Thank you for sharing this video. I loved the idea of not being too certain about what we believe, since our perception of the world is just that. (Perception) :) Also, Kathryn had a really fascinating way of weaving everything into her story of how she was so certain that the picnic road signs were Chinese characters, making it such a tangible example!
Excellent talk. But I suspect the reason all this seems like new thinking to Kathryn is that she has always looked at the world form the paradigm of her obviously high self confidence / esteem. To some of us at the opposite end of the self confidence spectrum this is normal. It's easier to be ok with being wrong, and to look honestly, open mindedly, to see where the truth lies, if you don't tie your ego to your intellectual position: Debate the veracity of the concept rather than arguing that 'I am right'. Bear in mind that, 'people believe what they want to believe'. And that, 'I believe' really means, 'I want this to be true and am going to pretend really hard that it is'. There's no such thing as belief. Something is pretty much true to the extent to which it is proven. To the extent of the evidence. Or so I would suggest. : )
Maybe she's just pretending its new to her to entice the audience into opening up to her humbling message. Otherwise she'd come across as acting superior.
The last stage doesn't necessarily have to be evil. It could be stubbornness. Someone who has all the facts, doesn't piece them together as we do, may be assumed to be stubborn without attaching a label that they're evil. I commonly think this way.
I watch or listen to a lot of Ted Talks and this talk was even more pertinent today as it was 6 years ago. One of the best I've seen in a long time! Great job..
@Jotto999 You're doing exactly what she's talking about. She didn't say she actually believed in God or was a theist (whatever that might mean to you). She's only using the concept of an omniscient God to illustrate the point that human beings are fallible and limited. The question of whether or not an omniscient God actually, physically exists is completely beside the point.
Great speeches by Kathryn Schulz. Often success involves serendipity, but you can learn from things to seize that when it comes. Plus I feel like if I try to force a result in life it is more elusive than when I sit back and try to learn things as I go.
I am in the tiny terrified space of rightness. How do I get out of it? It's more complex than "stepping out" of the bubble. Tell me step by step, how I can abandon the identity that I have created for myself on the basis of being right *without* feeling like nothing.
I really needed someone to tell me this. Because I am torn apart by both the feeling that I'm right and the insecurity of possibly being wrong. I need a break from myself
As a motivational speaker that was once a navy SEAL says, on RUclips, "get out of your head and achieve more than you thought possible" Just tell yourself what's what
I use this video in my AP Gov class. I encourage students to debate the issues. But what inevitably happens is that students will make all three of her unfortunate assumptions while debating. So after the first heated discussion I show them this video. It makes future debates much less heated.
Being wrong is infinitely harder than being right, but living a life of belligerent denial of reality to maintain a constant state of rightness is just insane. I rejected long ago the BS my old man, his family, and society taught me... that being wrong is a weakness. In my view those who can never admit wrongdoing are the weak ones. As they are so scared of being seen as foible that they would rather hide behind a lie... the illusion of strength. It takes real strength to admit wrongdoing.
While I agree that we must question authority, we also must obey sometimes for the purpose of civil order on the things that we have questioned and found correct.
Admitting When You're Wrong, 2 sides: On researching what I might find on this topic on You tube, I found a number of videos. All of them essentially touted the merits of Admitting you're wrong, however none mentioned that this is predicated on there being safe grond to do so, that is, free of risk of the confession being abused or opportunised. When a person exposes any vulnerability of this general type under unsafe circumstances, or in unsafe ground, he actually commits another wrong, albeit that wrong being often inadvertent. When such a situation is then abused or opportunised, the adage "Two wrongs don't make a right" applies. More than that, in doing so he generated a peer pressure for others to admit their mistakes and shortcomings on unsafe group, thereby exposing all to a self-exacerbating situation of distrust and unsafeness. Nonetheless it may be necesary to become close to accusative to avoid such a response being seen as an "excuse", rather than a real concern.
I liked this one. Most valuable part I thought was when she talked about how we're taught that being wrong is taboo (the student example). No one wants to get that low grade.
No, it wasn't. It was to question your own beliefs and realize that you might be wrong. FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 wasn't saying that "be an atheist' was her point, but pointing out that Paul Rutherford was most likely very set in his beliefs and has never considered that he might be wrong.
Schulz' conclusion reminds me of social psychologist Steven Cousins' (author of Culture and self-perception in Japan and the United States, 1989 ) PhD thesis concerning the question of why we care about 'symbolic imortality', or why we have a self (since these days the self is usually regarded as a symbolic construct, a self-symbol with which we identify). He concludes that self-symbolising self-consciousness is like a mini version of evolution, a trial and error attempt to self-represent.
@ShallowBeThyGames I agree with you on this, as well. However, the fact is that she seems to act as if there are no consequences to being wrong. It's as if she was saying, "We'll just admit that we're wrong, and then no big deal." I totally agree with you that we should own up to it, but we shouldn't be too surprised that people don't want to.
Wow, her point about the distinction of how it feels to be wrong, rather than how it feels to realise you are wrong is some god damned logical and insightful jiujitsu. I was raised my entire life being told I was wrong, beaten in to my literally, now as an adult the possibility I am wrong doesn't have any effect other than my desire to be less wrong, if I can. Maybe a benefit of my hell was assuming I'm wrong and wanting to be shown how to be less wrong. Who knows, I could be wrong :D:D
I particularly send you to minute 5:00, where she is talking about the Coyote and Roadrunner cartoons. Watching Schulz is like watching a computer tell you about the cartoons-a computer that has never actually seen the cartoons but only had secondary data input on them. Schulz says that in every episode, “the Roadrunner runs off a cliff, which is fine, he's a bird, he can fly”. She then says the Coyote follows the Roadrunner off the cliff, but he is alright, too. But wait, that isn't what happens in any of those cartoons, is it? In fact, the Roadrunner never runs off a cliff. And we never see him flying, because roadrunners don't fly. Although real roadrunners sometimes fly low off the ground for short bursts, they never fly off cliffs or up into the sky. And in the cartoons, roadrunnners only run. The Roadrunner always tricks the Coyote off the cliff, and the Coyote isn't alright at all. He is normally squashed into a pancake or an accordion or something. If Schulz was going to choose to give us a vivid example to punctuate her points, shouldn't she have mentioned something she was familiar with? Would you talk about a cartoon you never watched to illustrate a point in an important lecture? I wouldn't. To me, this indicates the Roadrunner story wasn't Schulz's idea or choice. It was fed to her. Ironically, it was fed to her by someone who also never actually watched the cartoons. Maybe she is being fed lines by a HAL9000 computer. mileswmathis.com/thor.pdf
@eugenetswong It's not just about admitting your fallibility to others, moreso, admitting it to yourself. Facing the fact that you can be wrong, often encourages more consideration of the choices we make. More examination usually leads to less mistakes. You can see this every day, drivers travelling at excessive speeds in the misguided self-belief that they are infallible, that their vehicles are impervious, that they are safe...
Speaking of being wrong: 0:37 _route_ is pronounced identically to "root"; a _rout_ means something entirely different. 7:08 there is no "second of all"; it's not a counting expression (in which case, the "of all" would be redundant). "First of all" means "most importantly", and it's the only one that exists. For all the rest of them, you just say "second" or "secondly", etc. 14:53 _Iraq_ is pronounced "ih-raak", not "ih-rack".
Definitely a thought-provoking talk. My mind is boggled now and I don't know whether or not I have to rethink everything I have ever believed or devoted myself to because... what if I'm wrong about all of it?
I would rather not prepare to be wrong. I think it is best to articulate an argument or point with grace, manners and confidence and digest an opposing view. Only upon the integration of new facts would I consider changing a view point. Beginning with the assumption of "But I might be wrong" is the opposite of being confident and undermines ones will to present a point of view. It also presents a sense of vulnerability that is ripe for unscrupulous debaters. There are far too many interesting perspectives and ideas that are shielded from the world due to hesitation. Be right, and be confident. If you hear new information that contradicts your knowledge, take it in and incorporate that too. The mistake is sticking to your ideas in light of new data. Speak your mind with confidence and listen with humility. The truth is always somewhere in the mix of the two.
Her story around time 10:00, that lists the 3 assumptions backfires a bit: It perfectly describes the experience of atheists in a world of believers. Those 3 assumptions are REASONABLE (and useful) because, in fact, MOST people are PERMANENTLY wrong about MOST things, MOST of the time. So embracing our errors is only the SMALL END of the issue, the bigger end is understanding that others are wrong too--especially those who position themselves to "teach" us.
@theraccoun I don't think she was saying it was wrong for them to make mistakes, so much as using them as examples of being blind to being wrong in our "rightness," and possibly how we then justify the mistakes when we realize they have been made.
@andid If you get something wrong in math, it may be a dead end, but you at least learn from that mistake and have eliminated one of the options. It's about trial and error, and just realizing that being wrong is a lesson. The more serious the error, the more powerful the impact of the lesson. Lessons educate, and that leads to progress. What I got from it was that her point was simply to accept your mistakes because they will eventually lead you to the right path. Regardless of subject matter.
16:43 "so here we are again. that's how it goes" We are so driven to find the right and wrong in things, and to crucify those who stand in the way of our conjured beliefs/opinions; but after every argument, the dust will settle, and we will remain here together next to each other, and the air and water and earth will stand stoic in its indifference to our infant plights of right and wrong.
There's time and place for creativity, and it's not when you're operating a brain surgery, or driving a school bus. There are times when being wrong can cost lives, and there are times when it doesn't matter if you're wrong and you can free yourself to be creative.
Being Wrong and Doing Wrong are two very different things. The world economy wasn't torpedoed because someone was wrong, it was because some people was willingly 'doing' wrong.
"Blinded by self-importance.... the visionaries of society haven't the vision of a blind musician nor the perception of a churchmouse_" ~~cc The capacity to embrace imperfection has made me a free spirit..
The feeling of being right, since we usually have it, is not a reliable indicator of being right, since we often aren't. Such a great point.
Let's take a moment to appreciate all of our teachers that assigned this to us- you guys are great!
My psychology teacher assigned this to us!
@@qt_omni8476 same
How bout just be to teachers who've assigned this to us?
My nutrition teacher put this video in a PowerPoint.
@@christinachoi5679 You’re completely right. Looking back on it, it was quite shallow to only commend English teachers for assigning this video when in reality we should commend any educator who assigns this video. Going to edit my comment right now!
@@christinachoi5679my PE teacher assigned this to tell us we’re wrong about him watching us shower through a hole in the wall. Very ignorant to assume English teachers. He’s not even from England!
"How does it feel to be wrong, before you know you are wrong? It feels like being right:" Spot on! Well put!
I actually always operate from the default position that I am probably wrong. And the more convinced I am about something, the more I try to prove myself wrong. And I am never ever ever as happy as when I am proven wrong, because then I learn something fundamentally new. And THAT is a point she missed totally!. And the only point she missed. This is a wonderful talk.
This is a very useful comment. Thank you for that! :-)
Wow, you have a great attitude, that's different in this way from most people. I wish we all thought like you -- like a true, good scientist!
And how does it feel to be right before you realize you are right? Nothing. It's amazing, the trickery of words.
I don't believe you
You’re wrong.
“Maybe I’m wrong” is the epitome of epistemic humility. Depth of knowledge & insight in any field must always come with at least an equal amount of unknowns.
"I think therefore I am." -René Descartes
"I err therefore I am." -St.Augustine
I watched this right when it came out diring my first year of graduate school. I still watch this every few months even now. This is by far my favorite TED Talk of all time. Her work is so niche yet so desparately needed. Just fantastic.
Or I don't know maybe I'm wrong and it sucked.
One of my favourite lectures =] I do try to question whether I am wrong... it allows you to see an alternative view, and it allows you to empathise- something we could all do a little more
very interesting and powerful lecture on the need to be right. I love the words she said at the end, "step out of the terrified space of rightness"
I personal have a fear of being wrong because we have been made to think if we are wrong we don't know what we are doing and people will make fun of us and laugh. We must not be afraid to make mistakes and laugh at our own selves because non of us are perfect.
This is, by far, some of the best 18 minutes I have ever spent on RUclips... Ever.
The same speaker has another Ted talk which is really good too, "Don't regret regret." 😁👍
"The less he understands something, the more firmly he believes in it." -Wilhelm Reich
Everyone has reasons to convince themselves why the belief they hold is right. Being wrong isn't the real problem, it's the need to feel that we're always right. Perhaps in addition to asking ourselves if we could be wrong, we should first ask ourselves why we want to be right about something we don't fully understand.
So glad my lit teacher assigned this video to watch for homework
Anite T, my media teacher assigned this video for homework too!
my ap lang teacher told us watch this for homework, currently making a rhetorical triangle for it uaibvefkbefygwaujch
Sounds like a good teacher.
Same
@Cheeseking sup
Hate being wrong but I feel the most resolution when someone calls me out. It takes time to accept fault tho, be patient and open to change. Life will reward you for learning
If we were always thinking we might be wrong no one would have the confidence to do anything!
Great advice. Humility plays a huge part in doing this right.
Great talk. I was that lil brat in class that answered every single question, right or wrong (50%). But thats how I learn. I crave learning new things, so finding out I am wrong means I just discovered something new!
"The only true wisdom lies in that we, in fact, know nothing." Socrates.
Paradox you know still 😅
Ted talks are the life lessons I need that my parents never taught me
No, that's living in fear. If you don't fear being wrong then you're not afraid to do things. That's true confidence, confidence that being wrong is ok.
One of the best TED talks of all! Thumbs up to this video!
Thank you for this Talk. Oh I love you for this. Thoroughly enjoyed!
Being wrong all the time is a GOOD THING. People don't always get this.
Confidence comes from
Certainty.
Certainty comes from
Clarity.
Clarity comes from
Simplicity.
Simplicity comes from
Ignoring details.
That's why Confidence comes from Ignorance.
So the more confident you feel, the greater the chance you are ignoring something.
Being wrong hurts exponentially worse the more you think and/or insist you’re right. It’s a simple idea. If you’re wrong about something minor that you really don’t care about, you laugh it off like the Chinese campground road sign.
I love being wrong because it allows me to open my mind to a new perspective and more importantly learn from that perspective. I don’t care if someone is wrong or not in a discussion it doesn’t change the way I feel about the person at all but if you can admit when your wrong or admit you learned something new from my perspective you gain my respect.
Try this for a change... Everyone talk/think/analyze/judge only about him/ herself for an entire day without blaming/excusing/commenting or even praising whatsoever outside of the Self. This is still a huge challenge for me... But incredible experiences and eternity moments of realization are indescribable.
Much blessing to All.
I hear that a lot. That I either haven't read the bible (yes I have) or that my mind isn't open enough. The fact is that as a kid my mind was open enough to believe all the fairy tales I was told in church. Then I started reading and questioning, and not being so close minded to avoid anything contradictory that might upset the peer group and make me question the comforting simplicity of the myths or the certainty of the infinite sadistic punishments.
A military cop taught me, "If you're right, you're right. If you're wrong, you're wrong. But never second guess yourself." Being double-minded is a far worse fate than being wrong, because you never know if you were actually right the whole time.
Not that we should settle for being wrong, but we do need to remember that Chaos "uhhh...finds a way" to upset our convictions. Strange stuff happens every day, folks!
Great advice! I've listened to it twice and jotted down key ideas I want to use.
"I'm never wrong, except for the once time I tought I was wrong, but I was wrong about being wrong" xD!!!!
The biggest problem is when you know you are wrong and your pride stops you from admitting it. It happends to me all the time, in other people of course ;-)
Dr Robert Burton, wrote about the scientific reasons for this in his book, "On Being Certain." A brilliant read along the same line of logic....highly recommended.
I love this talk! I love the book! This is brilliant! 🥰🥰🥰
I find this truly interesting...and so true. Making mistakes can be humbling.
Watching this again two years later, it's a great reminder. Hilarious presentation and spot on!
Hilarious?!? Low bar.
Awesome video! A philosopher in the making!
Insightful and honest look at being wrong. I love her ending about looking around at one another and looking out. "And then something else happened…"
My parents can never admit that theyre wrong and it affected me mentally. Before, i used to be fine when im wrong because i learn something. Now that my parents keep making me always te wrong one, being wrong is more personal than before. Im not going to be like them who cant admit that theyre wrong, but being wrong(whether or not i am) is more damaging.
i spend my life
i think i am wrong of i am trying to do,
but now i will go full trust
in it,and if am wrong i will learn from it
I highly recommend the audible version of the book she wrote. Wonderfully narrated, and definitely consciousness raising.
Oh dear how much i love your talk.
Thank you Kathyrn, thank you Kerstin! Meg Ryan's character, Joe Versus the Volcano - "my father says there are only a few people awake in the world and they live in absolute constant amazement"
Wow I wasn't expecting to enjoy this as much as I did. Added this to my favorite's! Great message!
Wonderful, thoughtful presentation...thank you!
My opinion is that in life; which seems to be such a paradox, we also sometimes have to trust that we are right. Marriage is usually based on a trust in 'the one' an Olympian champion doesn't choose to believe they will fail. Life seems to demand a balance between being open to being wrong, and trusting in yourself you are right, to me anyway.
Thank you for sharing this video.
I loved the idea of not being too certain about what we believe, since our perception of the world is just that. (Perception) :)
Also, Kathryn had a really fascinating way of weaving everything into her story of how she was so certain that the picnic road signs were Chinese characters, making it such a tangible example!
Excellent talk. But I suspect the reason all this seems like new thinking to Kathryn is that she has always looked at the world form the paradigm of her obviously high self confidence / esteem. To some of us at the opposite end of the self confidence spectrum this is normal.
It's easier to be ok with being wrong, and to look honestly, open mindedly, to see where the truth lies, if you don't tie your ego to your intellectual position: Debate the veracity of the concept rather than arguing that 'I am right'.
Bear in mind that, 'people believe what they want to believe'.
And that, 'I believe' really means, 'I want this to be true and am going to pretend really hard that it is'. There's no such thing as belief. Something is pretty much true to the extent to which it is proven. To the extent of the evidence.
Or so I would suggest. : )
Very well said. Possibly true 😀.
Maybe she's just pretending its new to her to entice the audience into opening up to her humbling message. Otherwise she'd come across as acting superior.
The last stage doesn't necessarily have to be evil. It could be stubbornness. Someone who has all the facts, doesn't piece them together as we do, may be assumed to be stubborn without attaching a label that they're evil. I commonly think this way.
I watch or listen to a lot of Ted Talks and this talk was even more pertinent today as it was 6 years ago. One of the best I've seen in a long time! Great job..
@Jotto999 You're doing exactly what she's talking about. She didn't say she actually believed in God or was a theist (whatever that might mean to you).
She's only using the concept of an omniscient God to illustrate the point that human beings are fallible and limited. The question of whether or not an omniscient God actually, physically exists is completely beside the point.
Great speeches by Kathryn Schulz. Often success involves serendipity, but you can learn from things to seize that when it comes. Plus I feel like if I try to force a result in life it is more elusive than when I sit back and try to learn things as I go.
Great points. This is great information and training
I am in the tiny terrified space of rightness. How do I get out of it? It's more complex than "stepping out" of the bubble. Tell me step by step, how I can abandon the identity that I have created for myself on the basis of being right *without* feeling like nothing.
I really needed someone to tell me this. Because I am torn apart by both the feeling that I'm right and the insecurity of possibly being wrong. I need a break from myself
As a motivational speaker that was once a navy SEAL says, on RUclips, "get out of your head and achieve more than you thought possible"
Just tell yourself what's what
I absolutely love this. Thank you.
Her speech really reminded me of this movie "Waking Life".
So true! I hope there are more videos related to this.
Really loved this -- thank you Kathryn!
This is a terrific eye opening presentation that everyone should watch.
I use this video in my AP Gov class. I encourage students to debate the issues. But what inevitably happens is that students will make all three of her unfortunate assumptions while debating. So after the first heated discussion I show them this video. It makes future debates much less heated.
Being wrong is infinitely harder than being right, but living a life of belligerent denial of reality to maintain a constant state of rightness is just insane. I rejected long ago the BS my old man, his family, and society taught me... that being wrong is a weakness. In my view those who can never admit wrongdoing are the weak ones. As they are so scared of being seen as foible that they would rather hide behind a lie... the illusion of strength. It takes real strength to admit wrongdoing.
11:16 it gets really good. At 11:58 one of the greatest quotes ever.
This feels close to home today in 2021
While I agree that we must question authority, we also must obey sometimes for the purpose of civil order on the things that we have questioned and found correct.
She says we are wrong and she is preachings,but what if she is wrong about being wrong 😔😔😭😭.Thiw claims make me wanna cry what they are saying
Admitting When You're Wrong, 2 sides:
On researching what I might find on this topic on You tube, I found a number of videos.
All of them essentially touted the merits of Admitting you're wrong, however none mentioned that this is predicated on there being safe grond to do so, that is, free of risk of the confession being abused or opportunised.
When a person exposes any vulnerability of this general type under unsafe circumstances, or in unsafe ground, he actually commits another wrong, albeit that wrong being often inadvertent.
When such a situation is then abused or opportunised, the adage "Two wrongs don't make a right" applies.
More than that, in doing so he generated a peer pressure for others to admit their mistakes and shortcomings on unsafe group, thereby exposing all to a self-exacerbating situation of distrust and unsafeness.
Nonetheless it may be necesary to become close to accusative to avoid such a response being seen as an "excuse", rather than a real concern.
very inspiring !!!!! We learn so much from our mistakes... and what we didn't think would ever happen :)
I liked this one. Most valuable part I thought was when she talked about how we're taught that being wrong is taboo (the student example). No one wants to get that low grade.
No, it wasn't. It was to question your own beliefs and realize that you might be wrong. FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 wasn't saying that "be an atheist' was her point, but pointing out that Paul Rutherford was most likely very set in his beliefs and has never considered that he might be wrong.
A very interesting presentation. Very enlightening.
But... What if she's wrong?
Can't get enough!
Schulz' conclusion reminds me of social psychologist Steven Cousins' (author of Culture and self-perception in Japan and the United States, 1989 ) PhD thesis concerning the question of why we care about 'symbolic imortality', or why we have a self (since these days the self is usually regarded as a symbolic construct, a self-symbol with which we identify). He concludes that self-symbolising self-consciousness is like a mini version of evolution, a trial and error attempt to self-represent.
"if you wanna make God lough, tell him your plans!"
Thank you for this!
To my mind its about letting go of control...however I could be wrong....
@ShallowBeThyGames I agree with you on this, as well. However, the fact is that she seems to act as if there are no consequences to being wrong. It's as if she was saying, "We'll just admit that we're wrong, and then no big deal." I totally agree with you that we should own up to it, but we shouldn't be too surprised that people don't want to.
Wow, her point about the distinction of how it feels to be wrong, rather than how it feels to realise you are wrong is some god damned logical and insightful jiujitsu.
I was raised my entire life being told I was wrong, beaten in to my literally, now as an adult the possibility I am wrong doesn't have any effect other than my desire to be less wrong, if I can.
Maybe a benefit of my hell was assuming I'm wrong and wanting to be shown how to be less wrong. Who knows, I could be wrong :D:D
I particularly send you to minute 5:00, where she is talking about the Coyote and Roadrunner cartoons.
Watching Schulz is like watching a computer tell you about the cartoons-a computer that has never
actually seen the cartoons but only had secondary data input on them. Schulz says that in every
episode, “the Roadrunner runs off a cliff, which is fine, he's a bird, he can fly”. She then says the
Coyote follows the Roadrunner off the cliff, but he is alright, too. But wait, that isn't what happens in
any of those cartoons, is it? In fact, the Roadrunner never runs off a cliff. And we never see him
flying, because roadrunners don't fly. Although real roadrunners sometimes fly low off the ground for
short bursts, they never fly off cliffs or up into the sky. And in the cartoons, roadrunnners only run.
The Roadrunner always tricks the Coyote off the cliff, and the Coyote isn't alright at all. He is
normally squashed into a pancake or an accordion or something. If Schulz was going to choose to give
us a vivid example to punctuate her points, shouldn't she have mentioned something she was familiar
with? Would you talk about a cartoon you never watched to illustrate a point in an important lecture? I
wouldn't. To me, this indicates the Roadrunner story wasn't Schulz's idea or choice. It was fed to her.
Ironically, it was fed to her by someone who also never actually watched the cartoons. Maybe she is
being fed lines by a HAL9000 computer.
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I thought I was wrong once...but I was mistaken. :)
@eugenetswong It's not just about admitting your fallibility to others, moreso, admitting it to yourself. Facing the fact that you can be wrong, often encourages more consideration of the choices we make. More examination usually leads to less mistakes. You can see this every day, drivers travelling at excessive speeds in the misguided self-belief that they are infallible, that their vehicles are impervious, that they are safe...
Very inspiring about constant growth
“Anyone who has never made a mistake, has never tried anything new” Albert Einstein
so inspiring !!
How come I never noticed Sarah Kay in the background of 4:29
Who is Sarah Kay?
Speaking of being wrong:
0:37 _route_ is pronounced identically to "root"; a _rout_ means something entirely different.
7:08 there is no "second of all"; it's not a counting expression (in which case, the "of all" would be redundant). "First of all" means "most importantly", and it's the only one that exists. For all the rest of them, you just say "second" or "secondly", etc.
14:53 _Iraq_ is pronounced "ih-raak", not "ih-rack".
Definitely a thought-provoking talk. My mind is boggled now and I don't know whether or not I have to rethink everything I have ever believed or devoted myself to because... what if I'm wrong about all of it?
I would rather not prepare to be wrong. I think it is best to articulate an argument or point with grace, manners and confidence and digest an opposing view. Only upon the integration of new facts would I consider changing a view point. Beginning with the assumption of "But I might be wrong" is the opposite of being confident and undermines ones will to present a point of view. It also presents a sense of vulnerability that is ripe for unscrupulous debaters. There are far too many interesting perspectives and ideas that are shielded from the world due to hesitation. Be right, and be confident. If you hear new information that contradicts your knowledge, take it in and incorporate that too. The mistake is sticking to your ideas in light of new data. Speak your mind with confidence and listen with humility. The truth is always somewhere in the mix of the two.
Why no cc on videos of TED
Her story around time 10:00, that lists the 3 assumptions backfires a bit: It perfectly describes the experience of atheists in a world of believers. Those 3 assumptions are REASONABLE (and useful) because, in fact, MOST people are PERMANENTLY wrong about MOST things, MOST of the time.
So embracing our errors is only the SMALL END of the issue, the bigger end is understanding that others are wrong too--especially those who position themselves to "teach" us.
The third one should be panic, and self-reflection on whether or not you're wrong. Great talk though.
@theraccoun I don't think she was saying it was wrong for them to make mistakes, so much as using them as examples of being blind to being wrong in our "rightness," and possibly how we then justify the mistakes when we realize they have been made.
@andid If you get something wrong in math, it may be a dead end, but you at least learn from that mistake and have eliminated one of the options. It's about trial and error, and just realizing that being wrong is a lesson. The more serious the error, the more powerful the impact of the lesson. Lessons educate, and that leads to progress. What I got from it was that her point was simply to accept your mistakes because they will eventually lead you to the right path. Regardless of subject matter.
16:43
"so here we are again. that's how it goes"
We are so driven to find the right and wrong in things, and to crucify those who stand in the way of our conjured beliefs/opinions; but after every argument, the dust will settle, and we will remain here together next to each other, and the air and water and earth will stand stoic in its indifference to our infant plights of right and wrong.
There's time and place for creativity, and it's not when you're operating a brain surgery, or driving a school bus. There are times when being wrong can cost lives, and there are times when it doesn't matter if you're wrong and you can free yourself to be creative.
i'll have to agree with some of her thoughts. she has excellent points!
Embrace my wrongness....it's far more common than I'd like to believe.
Everyone is actually wrong. What is right is only "being right".
Right
We all need to hear this more now than we did when it first came out.
Being Wrong and Doing Wrong are two very different things. The world economy wasn't torpedoed because someone was wrong, it was because some people was willingly 'doing' wrong.
I learnt that the "present tense" is only used in grammar and cant be used in speech to refer to the present.
great talk..i like it a lot as far as i can say..
"Blinded by self-importance.... the visionaries of society haven't the vision of a blind musician nor the perception of a churchmouse_"
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The capacity to embrace imperfection has made me a free spirit..