Michael Brissette It can be argued that the Pro X isn’t even that ‘good’ of a tablet. It’s app incompatibility is still a disadvantage for some “productivity” situations (think Photoshop or Lightroom), and Windows 10 in tablet mode has never been much more than the bare minimum (owned both a Pro 6 and an iPad Pro). At least the iPad Pro has a decent ecosystem and App Store, making it way more appealing and capable than the Pro X in my eyes. At the end of the day, it all comes down to each user’s definition of productivity though.
Bryant Rocha I completely agree with you, that’s why I added the parenthesis that the Pro 7 can be what the Pro X is, but can also be a fully fledged laptop to. Windows 10 just isn’t made for a tablet, and Pro X unfortunately proves it. Luckily, the Pro 7 works well as a laptop, but since I use my Pro 6 as my daily laptop AND tablet (I take my notes with a Pro 6, to me it does everything I want in a tablet), I don’t see the point in upgrading to the Pro 7 just for the USB C. I’ll probably wait until the Pro series makes drastic changes. In the meantime I’ll happily continue using my Pro 6, as it does everything I need for school and my lab work thanks to the notebook feature.
@Timmy P everything about the X physically and visually is superior. The pen holder that charges, the smaller bezels, the bigger screen. They should have just made that the standard for both I dont understand it.
@Timmy P Personally I would rather the Pro X because of the extended battery life, sleeker look with the pen being in the keyboard, the ability for a Sim card and the expandable hard drive option if I want to do that later, but I also would rather not have to deal with an ARM processor
@Timmy P I mean I'm torn. I dont think what I'd be using it for would be affected by an ARM processor since I just need it for school and notes and stuff but no dropbox? That could be a problem down the road and idek what else it cant run
Dampf lol what? They literally came out in the same announcement. Also, the Pro 7 is just continuing the Pro lineup while the Pro X is a device of its own based off of the Pro design
Watching this on my Surface Pro 7. :D I love the way the Surface Pro X looks. I would have bought it the second it came out if it wasn't for that processor, but I suppose that's why they only changed the design of the Pro X... no one would buy it if it looked like the Pro 7... I hated the bezels on the Pro 7, but I have gotten used to them. And God. This is my first Surface device and the keyboard is just amazing. I got used to it from the second I put my hands on it.
@@ritikmehta5847 i purchased surface pro 7 last week and i think it is truly worth buying. I only use it for my fundamental needs like office 365 ,youtube, etc.. and it works perfectly!!!
The lack of a headphone jack is a deal breaker for me, especially on such a device. On flagship phones I can understand, but not on larger computing devices.
I can't understand on "flagship" phones either. What makes it more usable with less features? The removal of the removable battery (coincidence?) Was a dick move too, you have to throw it away once the battery dies. With great phones, you can charge it outside the phone and place a new one once it's discharged (very useful when using a machine heavily)
Dylanlikesrice Yeah his office space is almost the size of my downstairs combined. Maybe rename to Average Millionaire Consumer. Not hating, but at some point you can help but loose contact with ‘average’ when your disposable income is far above average
This probably won’t be seen but I came from a consumer stand point from your videos (only watching to find new ideas and tech) but I recently just started job as a computer consultant at Best Buy and so far this video and the MacBook Pro 16” video has helped me immensely in my job. Much thanks.
Making the X the top tier premium option and it being a arm chip design is totally dumb and not logical. I prefer the form and look of the x but wouldn’t buy it or recommend it due to the arm system. Makes zero sense
All those improvement from 7 in X have a major hand in the arm processor. It gives a lot of space to do other stuff in a device. Developers will make the software compatible for arm processor. But that will take time. But it's a step in a good direction, more battery, better camera, better app management and easier software making process and easier updates. That's why Microsoft purchased GitHub and now supports open source development to have good relationship with all the developers. They sure learnt from their apps incompatibility for windows lumia which was otherwise a great device.
Same, I researched for a week and couldn't go with ARM. Actually went with the i7 Pro because of the better GPU. I get it tomorrow so excited to give it a run!
You're doing a great disservice to your subscribers by recommending the Pro X. It takes 3X longer to boot, doesnt have the 20-hour battery life that everyone was expecting, and has major software compatibility problems. Microsoft and Qualcomm need to go back to the drawing board.
LOVE LOVE LOVE my upgrade to the Pro X. Yes, the sound is far better. The screen size is noticeable in person. The pen feels great and the new storage and charging spot is a godsend. The eSIm is great but they don't have a lot of carriers that have good rates with the providers they app gives you. Thankfully, I can use a nano Sim and I got unlimited Data with my At&t Plan. You can use headphones with the USB-C adapter. M-2 SSD is becoming more available. You can find a few on eggheads so far. I have not had a problem yet with any software programs that I use. Surface X is my new go to. Don't use Chrome. Use windows Edge Canary...It's a chromium browser that is built for this system.
I have the Surface Pro 7, and really like the Type A USB - much more physically stable on docking stations. The X would be a good consumer machine, but the & with an i7 a portable extension of *anything* standard my workstation will do, and even some occasional SolidWorks! The Pro 7 is my choice, but the Pro X is an *amazing* form factor. (And the kickstand on the Pro 7 is probably as good as the X.)
Bias Alert: I just bought a Surface Pro 7. Okay, so just wanted to comment on this because I think you are right. If you work mainly in cloud based programs then the Pro X is for you. I was using a Chromebook before because I thought the web options were going to be enough for me and they just werent. Therefore, I got the Surface Pro 7 because I need Windows because some software I use for work only runs on Windows 8 and up and the new stylus features coming out will really help streamline my workflow next year. That said, I feel like Pro X and Windows 10X are really going to be the first steps by microsoft to start competing against the chromebook segment and also attempt to change the market for ultraportables by creating truly spectacular 2-in-1s. Thanks for the great vid!
Dude you are awesome. This was a beautifully done presentation and very informative. You touched upon all the details I was looking for as I was deciding on the Pro7 or X. Thank you for the helping me decide. I chose the X. Your a talented presenter. I feel confident in your words.
@@dennies5341 Yes, it runs Microsoft windows just like a normal desktop/laptop. You can download any normal application, etc. Some applications (like outlook, word, etc.) seem to be optimized from the smaller display so the UI may seem slightly different, but the same overall functions.
Purchased an SPX (SQ1, 8 ram, 128 ssd) for only $623US and absolutely love it! 1. Battery life is 50% longer than my SP7 (i7, 16 ram, 256 ssd). I get between 12-13 hours of continuous RUclips viewing (40% brightness, BlueTooth off, Wifi and Power Saver on). This is on par with my 15-inch 360x HP Spectre and its battery is twice as large. 2. The screen is bigger and brighter. I can read/watch video in a dark room with 0% brightness. Larger screen is also great for reading/annotating PDFs. 3. It is thinner/easier to hold, so it's much better for notetaking or watching videos on your lap than the SP7. 4. Runs all my must-have work apps including Office 2019, statistical software, Zoom, Nebo, Snapdrop, ReadAloud, and PDF apps. The only "nice to have" apps I can't run so far are BatteryBar and Throttlestop (which has a 32-bit version) 5. Charges much faster than my SP7 6. Has a Sim Card slot 7. Keyboard is 1/2 price on Amazon 8. SP7 pen works on SPX Negatives are: 1. No USB-A (dongle life) 2. No Thunderbolt 3 3. No microSD slot 4. MS's 64-bit emulator greatly reduces battery life (which is why I haven't downloaded yet) 5. Can't run all 35 miillion Windows apps/programs (for now) Finally, I don't edit videos, edit photos, or play games. The SPX was not designed for these hobbies, it was designed for white-collar professionals and traveling business folks.
The MicrosoftSurface Pro X is a competitor for the iPad Pro. The Surface Pro 7 can do everything but not faster and not a bit well. While the Surface Pro X can’t do everything but does things well. Surface Pro X can not game because of the ARM taking over the whole Microsoft. Surface Pro 7 isn’t disappointing as people thought, wish they made featured better as putting a 13inch display screen and use a different Intel Core other then ARM. Should definitely buy the Pro 7, it wins here.
Really hope the Surface Pro 8 finally gets a redesign to look more like the Surface Pro X. Don't think that model's had much of a redesign at all. I just hope they don't copy the removal of the headphone jack from the Pro X and the iPad Pro. On a phone I only ever use Bluetooth, so I'm fine with it, but on a tablet I almost exclusively still use wired.
I really think the surface pro x should have been a surface go x. It just makes more sense to use that mobile chipset on that classet. Pro line should be powerful intensive not limited. Go line should be what it sounds a mobile on to go where these ARM processors belong!
Thank you so much bro! This was so damn helpful. I love your video! The editing, the info, and the way you presented it was very capturing. I'll definetely tune in for more of your reviews. Keep doing what you do man, cuz you're lit! 🙌🏼💙
I agree. Will wait for pro-8. Hopefully it will have enhanced pro-7 features inside the beautiful 13inch pro-X chasis, but with headphone jack, up to 1TB sim card at the back, usb-c thunderbolt & usb-a, & ofcourse the pen pouch.
This blow my heart away with much love 😍, this is why I love your show, u really know what makes people smile, you inspired me to make my own channel too and help people.
You clearly don't own a SPX which is why you provided no facts to back up your statement. Well, I have both devices and the SPX is far better. I can run all my work apps (Office 2019, statistical software, Zoom, Nebo, PDF annotating apps, etc.), screen is bigger and brighter, build quality is better and thinner. Plus the battery life on the SPX is 50% longer (12-13 hours to 7-8 hours). SQ chipset is equal to an Intel 8th gen i5 processors, so it is powerful enough. And of course, there is LTE connectivity. As for apps/programs Windows has 35 million. Please tell me the percentage of apps/programs SPX can't run? Then tell me how many of these apps/programs don't have multiple or suitable replacements? Surface products are productivity devices for white-collar professional and mobile business folks. They are not for people into hobbies like video editing, photo editing, or gaming.
Surface Pro 7 plus with LTE sim. Upgradable to Windows 11. Bought one for 499 in 2023. Yes it's old, but does everything I need. Windows Surface Pro pre X is the only tablet that offers a full desktop style OS. Light video/ photo editing. Internet everywhere.
First of all as a new watcher I'm blown away by your review. Keep up the good work. I agree that the Pro X is a better machine if you don't have specific needs. I love the always connected LTE and it takes a surface go to do that otherwise. As far as the headphone jacks for me it is a no biggie. I have bluetooth and if you really need a headphone Jack there is a dongle for it.
If you own a note 10+ is it necessary to get a laptop? Think about it you can connect a laptop, hard drive, SD card, integrated S-pen, Dex (which gives it a full laptop experience and it fits in your pocket with a screen with no bezel. I have a surface pro 6 and was going to upgrade until you started listing off the specs of the X and I said my phone does everything that it does plus phone calls. For everyone who says what about the screen size there's a solution; hold your screen closer to your face until it looks like a 75"
Pro 7 all the way for me. Unless the Pro 8/New X comes out before Spring 21. I live on my pro 5. It's my daily work PC. Can't function without it. I manage my entire site of 500+ pcs from my surface, remoteing into secondary systems to perfom maintenance, so I am super interested in what the future holds. ARM was the killer for me with the X. Incompatibility would be brutal. Dell's "surface" line up is also catching ground, but Dell needs to work on their M.2 stability before I even think about getting one. Great video.
The situation is a lot better now with software. Some smaller devs have ported their apps to AArch64; Microsoft has Edge Chromium, Teams and Office running as ARM native code; x86 64-bit translation is coming soon to Windows Insider builds and next year as a consumer release. If you bought a Pro X in late 2019, the software situation would have been a lot worse.
I can always use Bluetooth audio devices in a device that doesn't have a headphone jack, but unless you get the proper adapter, you can't use a device that has a 3.5mm audio port with a device that doesn't have a headphone jack. I like options, so I'll choose a device that has the most options for what I use, and that includes one with a headphone jack.
So, I'm torn. I've had a Surface Pro 3 for... well, you know how long. I would still be using it, but my cat knocked it down and cracked the screen, so it lost touchscreen capability. It's been a fantastic device all of this time. I've lost no usability in all these years, and if I get a new one, I expect to keep it just as long. I use it for school, mostly: searching the internet, reading articles, writing papers, note taking, but also Netflix from time to time. That's about it. I have a gaming laptop and a work desktop, so the Surface has always just been my portable device for basic use. I love the keyboard on the X for the pen (I lost mine ages ago), but I don't know if that limited OS is going to cause an issue. I started with the Surface RT and I regretted every second of it, so going back to a limited OS makes me squeamish. Can anyone help me make a final decision?
Pretty sad most "reviewers" are completely ignoring the app limitations, Dave 2D mentioned some 64 bit apps are being emulated and run worse than poorly Because of the limitations I think the ProX should be half it's actual price
Love the X but for its price tag, it's a shame Windows on ARM doesn't have a good ecosystem of apps/programs at this stage. Maybe in a few years I'd seriously consider this (or if Microsoft reduce the price), but until then I'll need to stick with the Intel device. Good comparison anyway.
But of course they would not include the features on the pro so they can sell it as a separate product. But I get it, they want to compete with the iPad pro with the X
I just got a basic Surface Pro 7 with i3, 128GB. Put a 256gb microSD in it also. I got the bundle Best Buy had with the keyboard, for $699.99. I’m happy for what i use it for.
Hey, is there someone who could help me decide between the surface options? (Mainly the pro 7 and pro x, I would take other suggestions) I will mainly use it in school everyday to take notes, make small presentaions, etc. I'll also use it to make art (mostly as a hobby tho). The "notebook part" is more important to me than the "tablet part". I'd also like to get the best working/ fastes that is out at the moment. I need something that will last me long because it is a really big investment for me that I don't want to replace after a year. Can anybody help me? It would be much appreciated!! :)
Honestly I would recommend you the Microsoft surface laptop 3. It's a little bit more expensive than the pro 7 but you get a bigger screen, Intel Iris graphics card, better keyboard, bigger trackpad and more premium design if you choose the metal version. With the surface laptop 3 you don't have to buy a keyboard because it's a laptop, so maybe that makes up for the price difference between the pro 7 and laptop 3. If you want to choose something in the surface pro lineup, I would recommend you the pro 7 because you get a 10th generation Intel processor over an ARM processor with the surface pro x. Which is not acceptable for a device that price like the pro x. By the way the Microsoft surface laptop 3 doesn't have a 360 degrees hinge, but it's compatible with the surface pen.
Was going to get X - but its crazy slow and buggy. I can't stomach the old-looking pro 7 thick bezels. iPad Pro it is.. sorry Microsoft, you lose this round.
Honestly.. I'm just looking at the pro 7 as a portable PC gaming option.idont want a gaming laptop.. too bulky. Having steam big picture auto-boot, With a Xbox controller/gyroscope controller. And steam cloud transferring my saves back and fourth from home and away from home, would be amazing! Only thing lacking in that is the graphics card. In which, I'm using it as a portable, I'm fine with cutting back in the graphics department.
im one of those who has a mobile plan for their tablets. i have one in my Surface Go that i take to meetings and other places when i don't want to worry about or connect to WiFi.
I like the design of the X, but without a USB A port, I may end up finding that an inconvenience for school. Thanks for this comparison, I’m not able to go into Microsoft stores because they’re all closed, but I wanted a genuine comparison because I want to actually invest in a decent laptop for college. I get that both have their own pros and cons, but thank you for putting them side by side. It helps a lot.
This video definitely helped me make my decision on the pro 7. I almost bought the pro x but then I saw this and went with the 7. Im using it for grad school so I definitely needed full windows. Thank you so much!!
Hellooo, do you mind helping me? 😅. Both seem super good which is the reason why I’m having trouble choosing between the 2 😅. I am a student and I already have the surface laptop 3, I wanted to buy a tablet for mainly note taking and was wondering which one is more ideal. I’m a little tempted by the X because of the display but I’ve watched a few videos stating that the pro X can’t carry some apps and I’m still not sure what those apps are. Will those apps interfere with my note taking and uploading reports? And will it effect the running of the microsoft office series? I want to just use it as a tablet without the keyboard (I alr have the surface pen) Which one would you recommend? Great video btw ! 😄 ~
The Pro X looks like it's the future. I've owned Surfaces since the RT and I think the all black metal is a throwback to it. I need to replace my Surface 3 and I'm considering the 6, 7, and X. What would u recommend for a budget conscious shopper?
Hey guys, just noticed I said AMD at 5:40 I said AMD but I meant Qualcomm* Thanks for the heads commenters!
You need to help us with the wallpapers man. They are great
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Is pro 7 is as powerful as a laptop?
@@srirampadmanabhan4587 yes it is. It's actually supposedly faster then the 13inch laptop.
That wood laptop stand is LIT ! Plz tell me where to buy it
If you want a productive tablet, get the Pro X, if you want a productive laptop (that also functions as tablet), get the Pro 7.
Thank you
Pro X is garbage. You would be a fool to buy it.
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Michael Brissette It can be argued that the Pro X isn’t even that ‘good’ of a tablet. It’s app incompatibility is still a disadvantage for some “productivity” situations (think Photoshop or Lightroom), and Windows 10 in tablet mode has never been much more than the bare minimum (owned both a Pro 6 and an iPad Pro). At least the iPad Pro has a decent ecosystem and App Store, making it way more appealing and capable than the Pro X in my eyes. At the end of the day, it all comes down to each user’s definition of productivity though.
Bryant Rocha I completely agree with you, that’s why I added the parenthesis that the Pro 7 can be what the Pro X is, but can also be a fully fledged laptop to. Windows 10 just isn’t made for a tablet, and Pro X unfortunately proves it. Luckily, the Pro 7 works well as a laptop, but since I use my Pro 6 as my daily laptop AND tablet (I take my notes with a Pro 6, to me it does everything I want in a tablet), I don’t see the point in upgrading to the Pro 7 just for the USB C. I’ll probably wait until the Pro series makes drastic changes. In the meantime I’ll happily continue using my Pro 6, as it does everything I need for school and my lab work thanks to the notebook feature.
I wish there was a Pro X with an Intel chip in it because the ARM processor is the only thing holding me back from buying the Pro X ASAP
@Timmy P everything about the X physically and visually is superior. The pen holder that charges, the smaller bezels, the bigger screen. They should have just made that the standard for both I dont understand it.
@Timmy P Personally I would rather the Pro X because of the extended battery life, sleeker look with the pen being in the keyboard, the ability for a Sim card and the expandable hard drive option if I want to do that later, but I also would rather not have to deal with an ARM processor
@Timmy P I mean I'm torn. I dont think what I'd be using it for would be affected by an ARM processor since I just need it for school and notes and stuff but no dropbox? That could be a problem down the road and idek what else it cant run
@@MrImaWizard exactly man if the surface 7 had LTE I'll probably jump on it. But still if the x had Intel. That's an instant purchase.
Same
Thanks for making us all aware of the ARM incompatibility.
That's disappointing.
Yes, that was a BIG deal.
Cicily Mitchell do you know if it was fixed?
@@kinglos7840 Based on what I've seen online , it has not.
KingLos It’s going to take a long time before every company revises their apps to be compatible with ARM unfortunately :/
Man, the 7 looks so outdated compared to the X. Why haven't they refreshed the 7 too?
Dampf lol what? They literally came out in the same announcement. Also, the Pro 7 is just continuing the Pro lineup while the Pro X is a device of its own based off of the Pro design
@@mxrijx I know that's why I wonder why they haven't refreshed the design of the 7 as well
Because they want to sell 7 X's
i wish the pro had smaller bezels
Because of the Surface 8.
Got to milk it, if you know what I mean.
Why am I watching this when I wasn't even considering getting a laptop😅
Jonathan Wambugu for real lol I have an iPad pro 😭
Then go work
Learning about new tech is good too
@@thendyforaldy4564 True
Because you fucking love technology
"With smartphones that's (headphone jack) pretty much dead"
*Turns my phone to look at the headphone jack on my phone*
Watching this on my Surface Pro 7. :D I love the way the Surface Pro X looks. I would have bought it the second it came out if it wasn't for that processor, but I suppose that's why they only changed the design of the Pro X... no one would buy it if it looked like the Pro 7... I hated the bezels on the Pro 7, but I have gotten used to them. And God. This is my first Surface device and the keyboard is just amazing. I got used to it from the second I put my hands on it.
Hello I'm considering buying this laptop... Could you tell how well does it play movies, videos, and especially the battery life how does that perform
@@ritikmehta5847 i purchased surface pro 7 last week and i think it is truly worth buying. I only use it for my fundamental needs like office 365 ,youtube, etc.. and it works perfectly!!!
The lack of a headphone jack is a deal breaker for me, especially on such a device. On flagship phones I can understand, but not on larger computing devices.
Exactly like whyyyy
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. But they announced the Surface Earbuds at the same time, so maybe that’s why.
I can't understand on "flagship" phones either. What makes it more usable with less features? The removal of the removable battery (coincidence?) Was a dick move too, you have to throw it away once the battery dies. With great phones, you can charge it outside the phone and place a new one once it's discharged (very useful when using a machine heavily)
Deal breaker for sure. I'm not gonna add on another $100+ on new bluetooth headphones. Plus my work relies on audio
@@bq5577x well battery can be used for bombs. Especially a 6000mAh phone battery attached to a explosive granade.
Sorry to break the news but I don’t think you are a average consumer anymore.
Dylanlikesrice Yeah his office space is almost the size of my downstairs combined. Maybe rename to Average Millionaire Consumer.
Not hating, but at some point you can help but loose contact with ‘average’ when your disposable income is far above average
Did you just realise that?
Maybe he doesn't live there.
*an
Hahahaha!! 😂
This probably won’t be seen but I came from a consumer stand point from your videos (only watching to find new ideas and tech) but I recently just started job as a computer consultant at Best Buy and so far this video and the MacBook Pro 16” video has helped me immensely in my job. Much thanks.
Making the X the top tier premium option and it being a arm chip design is totally dumb and not logical. I prefer the form and look of the x but wouldn’t buy it or recommend it due to the arm system. Makes zero sense
All those improvement from 7 in X have a major hand in the arm processor. It gives a lot of space to do other stuff in a device. Developers will make the software compatible for arm processor. But that will take time. But it's a step in a good direction, more battery, better camera, better app management and easier software making process and easier updates.
That's why Microsoft purchased GitHub and now supports open source development to have good relationship with all the developers.
They sure learnt from their apps incompatibility for windows lumia which was otherwise a great device.
@@LogicalError007 by the time they make software compatible, a new surface will surface..
Man I’ve been trying to find a simple video like this to break it down for me to help me decide!! THANK YOU!
The quality of this video is insane
Have to go with the Pro 7, can't take a chance with that ARM incompatibility.
Same, I researched for a week and couldn't go with ARM. Actually went with the i7 Pro because of the better GPU. I get it tomorrow so excited to give it a run!
@@Brimah314 Hi! I was curious on how you like it so far.
Same, hopefully my 7 will arrive tomorrow. Even though rhe X design looks better
nice video, thanks
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You're doing a great disservice to your subscribers by recommending the Pro X. It takes 3X longer to boot, doesnt have the 20-hour battery life that everyone was expecting, and has major software compatibility problems. Microsoft and Qualcomm need to go back to the drawing board.
LOVE LOVE LOVE my upgrade to the Pro X. Yes, the sound is far better. The screen size is noticeable in person. The pen feels great and the new storage and charging spot is a godsend. The eSIm is great but they don't have a lot of carriers that have good rates with the providers they app gives you. Thankfully, I can use a nano Sim and I got unlimited Data with my At&t Plan. You can use headphones with the USB-C adapter. M-2 SSD is becoming more available. You can find a few on eggheads so far. I have not had a problem yet with any software programs that I use.
Surface X is my new go to. Don't use Chrome. Use windows Edge Canary...It's a chromium browser that is built for this system.
I expect a headphone jack. I'm even more cautious with windows bluetooth, it's always been an iffy experience with the windows devices I used
Totally agree ARM processor could be an issue and headphone plug is very handy and important for a all around laptop replacement. Great video.
I have the Surface Pro 7, and really like the Type A USB - much more physically stable on docking stations. The X would be a good consumer machine, but the & with an i7 a portable extension of *anything* standard my workstation will do, and even some occasional SolidWorks! The Pro 7 is my choice, but the Pro X is an *amazing* form factor. (And the kickstand on the Pro 7 is probably as good as the X.)
Bias Alert: I just bought a Surface Pro 7.
Okay, so just wanted to comment on this because I think you are right. If you work mainly in cloud based programs then the Pro X is for you. I was using a Chromebook before because I thought the web options were going to be enough for me and they just werent.
Therefore, I got the Surface Pro 7 because I need Windows because some software I use for work only runs on Windows 8 and up and the new stylus features coming out will really help streamline my workflow next year.
That said, I feel like Pro X and Windows 10X are really going to be the first steps by microsoft to start competing against the chromebook segment and also attempt to change the market for ultraportables by creating truly spectacular 2-in-1s.
Thanks for the great vid!
the X seems the way to go, i can hide my cocaine in the secret compartment in the back
4:01 yeah it feels great when i have to watch porn in the library but found out my bluetooth earpod has no battery. Time to improvise
I wish they had that type keyboard with the pen compartment and charging for the surface pro 7 !! >.
5:40. Qualcomm, not AMD.
How tf did he get this wrong lol
Excellent reviewing skills. You helped make up my mind over this choice. Going with the 7.
Thanks
Thanks almost bought the Pro X until I watched this video! I like all the adobe Apps and they wont' work with the Pro X.
Dude you are awesome. This was a beautifully done presentation and very informative. You touched upon all the details I was looking for as I was deciding on the Pro7 or X. Thank you for the helping me decide. I chose the X. Your a talented presenter. I feel confident in your words.
I got the pro 7 over the weekend. LOVE IT!
How is it to editing videos in 4k ?
@@mexicanlatinboy5069 I don't do editing, but I bet it wouldn't be the best if you like 4k editing. Doesn't have crazy gpu
Noah Oxley does it function just like a normal laptop? Consider buying one
@@dennies5341 Yes, it runs Microsoft windows just like a normal desktop/laptop. You can download any normal application, etc. Some applications (like outlook, word, etc.) seem to be optimized from the smaller display so the UI may seem slightly different, but the same overall functions.
Mexican Latin Boy they have a really good intel processor bc it costs like 2k
Purchased an SPX (SQ1, 8 ram, 128 ssd) for only $623US and absolutely love it!
1. Battery life is 50% longer than my SP7 (i7, 16 ram, 256 ssd). I get between 12-13 hours
of continuous RUclips viewing (40% brightness, BlueTooth off, Wifi and Power Saver on).
This is on par with my 15-inch 360x HP Spectre and its battery is twice as large.
2. The screen is bigger and brighter. I can read/watch video in a dark room with 0% brightness.
Larger screen is also great for reading/annotating PDFs.
3. It is thinner/easier to hold, so it's much better for notetaking or watching videos on your lap
than the SP7.
4. Runs all my must-have work apps including Office 2019, statistical software, Zoom, Nebo,
Snapdrop, ReadAloud, and PDF apps. The only "nice to have" apps I can't run so far are
BatteryBar and Throttlestop (which has a 32-bit version)
5. Charges much faster than my SP7
6. Has a Sim Card slot
7. Keyboard is 1/2 price on Amazon
8. SP7 pen works on SPX
Negatives are:
1. No USB-A (dongle life)
2. No Thunderbolt 3
3. No microSD slot
4. MS's 64-bit emulator greatly reduces battery life (which is why I haven't downloaded yet)
5. Can't run all 35 miillion Windows apps/programs (for now)
Finally, I don't edit videos, edit photos, or play games. The SPX was not designed for these hobbies, it was designed for white-collar professionals and traveling business folks.
I'm getting the Pro 7 at the Microsoft Store when it goes on sale for $799 with keyboard Nov 22nd
When does that sale end?
The MicrosoftSurface Pro X is a competitor for the iPad Pro.
The Surface Pro 7 can do everything but not faster and not a bit well. While the Surface Pro X can’t do everything but does things well. Surface Pro X can not game because of the ARM taking over the whole Microsoft.
Surface Pro 7 isn’t disappointing as people thought, wish they made featured better as putting a 13inch display screen and use a different Intel Core other then ARM.
Should definitely buy the Pro 7, it wins here.
I dont bring my wire earphone recently, and I think having 3.5 jack on tablet is no need. 1 wireless earphone is used for multiple devices.
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Just received my X, the entry/mid range version 8/256. Love it!
That Guy any issues?
I've got Pro 7 about 2 months back, it's perfect. I would have gone for Pro X, but that ARM is no no for me.
Dragan Malenica just wish 7 had LTE
I like how put a cut scene of him watching FaZe Jarvis burst into tears lolol
Really hope the Surface Pro 8 finally gets a redesign to look more like the Surface Pro X. Don't think that model's had much of a redesign at all. I just hope they don't copy the removal of the headphone jack from the Pro X and the iPad Pro. On a phone I only ever use Bluetooth, so I'm fine with it, but on a tablet I almost exclusively still use wired.
I've been using the surface pro 7 for work for about 3 months and I love it.
I think that at list for now I think it’s important to have a headphone jack in laptops for now at list
I really think the surface pro x should have been a surface go x. It just makes more sense to use that mobile chipset on that classet. Pro line should be powerful intensive not limited. Go line should be what it sounds a mobile on to go where these ARM processors belong!
Thank you so much bro! This was so damn helpful. I love your video! The editing, the info, and the way you presented it was very capturing. I'll definetely tune in for more of your reviews. Keep doing what you do man, cuz you're lit! 🙌🏼💙
im just going to wait a year or 2 so can decide to combine them and give us surface x design with surface 7 functionality.
I wanted to see about surface pro 9, But thanks alot for your effort!!!
And how much did the surface pro X cost you?
I agree. Will wait for pro-8. Hopefully it will have enhanced pro-7 features inside the beautiful 13inch pro-X chasis, but with headphone jack, up to 1TB sim card at the back, usb-c thunderbolt & usb-a, & ofcourse the pen pouch.
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I just got a Pro X and now I am regretting. Not what I expected and clearly can’t be used a laptop. Pro 7 would have been a better choice.
You clearly don't own a SPX which is why you provided no facts to back up your statement. Well, I have both devices and the SPX is far better. I can run all my work apps (Office 2019, statistical software, Zoom, Nebo, PDF annotating apps, etc.), screen is bigger and brighter, build quality is better and thinner. Plus the battery life on the SPX is 50% longer (12-13 hours to 7-8 hours). SQ chipset is equal to an Intel 8th gen i5 processors, so it is powerful enough. And of course, there is LTE connectivity.
As for apps/programs Windows has 35 million. Please tell me the percentage of apps/programs SPX can't run? Then tell me how many of these apps/programs don't have multiple or suitable replacements? Surface products are productivity devices for white-collar professional and mobile business folks. They are not for people into hobbies like video editing, photo editing, or gaming.
Surface Pro 7 plus with LTE sim. Upgradable to Windows 11. Bought one for 499 in 2023.
Yes it's old, but does everything I need.
Windows Surface Pro pre X is the only tablet that offers a full desktop style OS.
Light video/ photo editing. Internet everywhere.
First of all as a new watcher I'm blown away by your review. Keep up the good work. I agree that the Pro X is a better machine if you don't have specific needs. I love the always connected LTE and it takes a surface go to do that otherwise.
As far as the headphone jacks for me it is a no biggie. I have bluetooth and if you really need a headphone Jack there is a dongle for it.
If you own a note 10+ is it necessary to get a laptop? Think about it you can connect a laptop, hard drive, SD card, integrated S-pen, Dex (which gives it a full laptop experience and it fits in your pocket with a screen with no bezel. I have a surface pro 6 and was going to upgrade until you started listing off the specs of the X and I said my phone does everything that it does plus phone calls. For everyone who says what about the screen size there's a solution; hold your screen closer to your face until it looks like a 75"
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Best tech you tuber ever watched you since 200k subs keep up the good work JUD love from OMAN
Pro 7 all the way for me. Unless the Pro 8/New X comes out before Spring 21. I live on my pro 5. It's my daily work PC. Can't function without it. I manage my entire site of 500+ pcs from my surface, remoteing into secondary systems to perfom maintenance, so I am super interested in what the future holds. ARM was the killer for me with the X. Incompatibility would be brutal. Dell's "surface" line up is also catching ground, but Dell needs to work on their M.2 stability before I even think about getting one.
Great video.
The situation is a lot better now with software. Some smaller devs have ported their apps to AArch64; Microsoft has Edge Chromium, Teams and Office running as ARM native code; x86 64-bit translation is coming soon to Windows Insider builds and next year as a consumer release. If you bought a Pro X in late 2019, the software situation would have been a lot worse.
A small thing, but the pro7 kickstand does go as far down as the pro X. I just got the Pro7 and it seems to go even a bit lower than my old pro4.
I can always use Bluetooth audio devices in a device that doesn't have a headphone jack, but unless you get the proper adapter, you can't use a device that has a 3.5mm audio port with a device that doesn't have a headphone jack.
I like options, so I'll choose a device that has the most options for what I use, and that includes one with a headphone jack.
what does he mean by the kickstand, i have a surface pro 7 and the kickstand goes as far as the x
Great video - thanks...Looking to upgrade from the pro 4 (which is still great)...Question, the bamboo stand, where did you get that?
So, I'm torn. I've had a Surface Pro 3 for... well, you know how long. I would still be using it, but my cat knocked it down and cracked the screen, so it lost touchscreen capability. It's been a fantastic device all of this time. I've lost no usability in all these years, and if I get a new one, I expect to keep it just as long. I use it for school, mostly: searching the internet, reading articles, writing papers, note taking, but also Netflix from time to time. That's about it. I have a gaming laptop and a work desktop, so the Surface has always just been my portable device for basic use. I love the keyboard on the X for the pen (I lost mine ages ago), but I don't know if that limited OS is going to cause an issue. I started with the Surface RT and I regretted every second of it, so going back to a limited OS makes me squeamish. Can anyone help me make a final decision?
With one is the best surface Pro X or surface 7 confusing to buy ..
You man are far from average, you're editing skills are superb 👌
Pretty sad most "reviewers" are completely ignoring the app limitations, Dave 2D mentioned some 64 bit apps are being emulated and run worse than poorly
Because of the limitations I think the ProX should be half it's actual price
Who needs sleep right UAC all the way!
Love the X but for its price tag, it's a shame Windows on ARM doesn't have a good ecosystem of apps/programs at this stage. Maybe in a few years I'd seriously consider this (or if Microsoft reduce the price), but until then I'll need to stick with the Intel device. Good comparison anyway.
I have 6 pairs of bluetooth earbuds (2 from Beats then 4 from JLab) and a pair of bluetooth headphones too. Cords and headphone Jack's are dead to me.
The combination of these two would create an awesome portable workstation.
But of course they would not include the features on the pro so they can sell it as a separate product. But I get it, they want to compete with the iPad pro with the X
This might be a dumb question but can they both run regular exe files? I wanna know if Clip Studio Paint works on at least the X
Dude, thank you very much. I'm going for the seven. Birthday gift😊🥳
I just got a basic Surface Pro 7 with i3, 128GB. Put a 256gb microSD in it also. I got the bundle Best Buy had with the keyboard, for $699.99. I’m happy for what i use it for.
Nice comparable and very clear explanation scout booth devices. Thank you for sharing this video with us.
Hey, is there someone who could help me decide between the surface options? (Mainly the pro 7 and pro x, I would take other suggestions)
I will mainly use it in school everyday to take notes, make small presentaions, etc. I'll also use it to make art (mostly as a hobby tho).
The "notebook part" is more important to me than the "tablet part".
I'd also like to get the best working/ fastes that is out at the moment.
I need something that will last me long because it is a really big investment for me that I don't want to replace after a year.
Can anybody help me? It would be much appreciated!! :)
Honestly I would recommend you the Microsoft surface laptop 3. It's a little bit more expensive than the pro 7 but you get a bigger screen, Intel Iris graphics card, better keyboard, bigger trackpad and more premium design if you choose the metal version.
With the surface laptop 3 you don't have to buy a keyboard because it's a laptop, so maybe that makes up for the price difference between the pro 7 and laptop 3.
If you want to choose something in the surface pro lineup, I would recommend you the pro 7 because you get a 10th generation Intel processor over an ARM processor with the surface pro x. Which is not acceptable for a device that price like the pro x.
By the way the Microsoft surface laptop 3 doesn't have a 360 degrees hinge, but it's compatible with the surface pen.
Was going to get X - but its crazy slow and buggy.
I can't stomach the old-looking pro 7 thick bezels.
iPad Pro it is.. sorry Microsoft, you lose this round.
Great review! Oh and I agree with your comment about the headphone jack: would have been nice.
Hopefully MS uses the X as a learning experience for the Duo and Neo. Can't wait for those devices.
Honestly.. I'm just looking at the pro 7 as a portable PC gaming option.idont want a gaming laptop.. too bulky. Having steam big picture auto-boot, With a Xbox controller/gyroscope controller. And steam cloud transferring my saves back and fourth from home and away from home, would be amazing!
Only thing lacking in that is the graphics card. In which, I'm using it as a portable, I'm fine with cutting back in the graphics department.
This is the best review video I've seen in a long time. Subscribed.
Microsoft: were gonna remove the headphone jack rq to save time. Apple: THIS IS THE FUTURE
Surface pro x is basically a big cell phone. How do ppl not see this lol
I like the sim cards option in pro x , it's amazing!
All I'm looking for is a good tablet for art ...drawing designs which one is better ?
intro so crisp, ur green hoodie goes well with that nature type background goddamn
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I have a pro 7 and the stand can also go as back as the x
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Sean Sheffer check it out this arm is fantastic.I agree why not a head phone jack great video thanks.
7:14 LMFAO.
I'm just crossinng my fingers MS adopts the Pro X's design (with a headphone jack of course) for the future Pro 8.
The Pro D has no 3.5mm jack so Microsfot can push their wireless earbuds & headphones on people 😂😂
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Super depth review. well done man. (y)
im one of those who has a mobile plan for their tablets. i have one in my Surface Go that i take to meetings and other places when i don't want to worry about or connect to WiFi.
I like the design of the X, but without a USB A port, I may end up finding that an inconvenience for school.
Thanks for this comparison, I’m not able to go into Microsoft stores because they’re all closed, but I wanted a genuine comparison because I want to actually invest in a decent laptop for college.
I get that both have their own pros and cons, but thank you for putting them side by side. It helps a lot.
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Fortnite "ban him"
Jarvis (crying):"It's so hard"
Surface Pro 7, Trump could build hotels on those old bezels.
Very detailed review compared to others utube reviews. Big Thumbs Up :)
Thank you for the comparison. what about the Pro X versus iPad pro 12.9" (2020)?
This video definitely helped me make my decision on the pro 7. I almost bought the pro x but then I saw this and went with the 7. Im using it for grad school so I definitely needed full windows. Thank you so much!!
So the surface pro 7 would be better for dowloading apps because of the ARM stuff in the pro X?
Hellooo, do you mind helping me? 😅. Both seem super good which is the reason why I’m having trouble choosing between the 2 😅. I am a student and I already have the surface laptop 3, I wanted to buy a tablet for mainly note taking and was wondering which one is more ideal. I’m a little tempted by the X because of the display but I’ve watched a few videos stating that the pro X can’t carry some apps and I’m still not sure what those apps are. Will those apps interfere with my note taking and uploading reports? And will it effect the running of the microsoft office series? I want to just use it as a tablet without the keyboard (I alr have the surface pen) Which one would you recommend? Great video btw ! 😄 ~
The Pro X looks like it's the future. I've owned Surfaces since the RT and I think the all black metal is a throwback to it. I need to replace my Surface 3 and I'm considering the 6, 7, and X. What would u recommend for a budget conscious shopper?