We've had requests to make a video about this engine for a while and now we finally had the chance to build one, so by popular demand, we present the ubiquitous Toyota V6!
There is a channel called Frankenstein Motorworks where they developed 2GR-FE capable of over 400 n\a wheel horsepower. And they sell parts that they developed on their site.
I shot-peened my rods and crank in the late 90’s. 1700 crossflow Kent engine. At the time, it was done at the local aerodrome machine shop. Cast iron with a few more heat cycles, I like that.
1gr...has never let me down in 12 years. 05 with over 270k miles. original everything on engine and transmission. only thing I've done is regular maintenance and 2 starters. because the first one i bought was aftermarket lmfao Also didn't know the crank could handle 1000hp😂 that's awesome!
I'm kind of surprised that squish pad angle and piston cam/taper aren't more widely understood. I learned about engines in the 2-stroke world, where these things were reasonably well known to amateurs in the 70s, and polished to an absolute science by the 80s. Of course, detonation and piston seizure are huge issues limiting almost every 2-stroke enging, whereas things like valves, boost, and oil pressure literally don't exist. I've found that 2-stroke people tend to have an extremely strong understanding of combustion dynamics and NA resonance effects. ITBs and long-tube headers make sense to us. But it took me a solid decade to finally trust that a valvetrain could exist without scattering immediately.
One day you guys should make a video talking about all the cars in the brackground, love your videos, a lot of detail and everything well explained without making it boring!
I can't believe they put all their tips and tricks out there for everyone ! Some of these details are the type of info that would be protected at all cost in big time racing circles.
Pretty silly that they hide information like that. Generally most of this stuff is all "out there" for anyone to find, but you have to dig and occasionally read actual books. The pros that the other pros are worried about have all read the books. It's only us filthy amateurs out here in the dark, and we're not a threat to anyone but ourselves. What I find fascinating is that, if you cross disciplines a lot, the super top secrets of one community are discussed openly in others. For example, the minutia of cylinder head porting for optimal flow and velocity seems to be dark magic in the import world, but a cover story in a V8 hit-rod magazine. The science of lean combustion is ultra mysterious and even thought impossible in most of the car world, but every dentist with a private pilot license knows about it. Resonance tuning seems to be a hard concept for a lot of car guys and even some serious tuners to appreciate, but every long-haired Monster Energy chugging 14yr old motocross bro knows why a shorty expansion chamber is gonna make his YZ125 rip harder on the top-end.
my 07 in my 4runner has 250k on it no problems its already bulletproof burns no oil no oil leaks nothing just change the oil and put the V8 wix oil filter on it..and penzoil ultra synthetic oil
I love how people shit on toyota for decades and suddenly everyone is building 2GR's and 2AR's, some of the cheapest, most ubiquitous engines out there. I have 2 myself. Monsters.
catcams or kelford has cams for the 2gr. just in cast anyone is wondering. there's rocker retainer clips if you're going to hit close higher rpms too. great motor
Awesome to see this video. For eternity all I’ve seen on the internet is that if anything happens to the 1GR It’s gotta be junked. Great to see options here in Aus where the Barra reigns supreme. 1GR fits into many more engine bays and looks beefier than a Barra
I love owning a 2gr-FE, but I’d trade it for a barra any day of the week. At least here in the US we’re making headway with the GM 4200 atlas i6 as a performance swap.
OK.. I have an 06 Sienna... YA LAUGH... IT HAS THE 3.3 vvt MOTOR IN IT, LET ME mf TELL YOU ALL. Butter. I mean like Amazing. I made the Gas boil in the van. 273k Pulling trailers up mountains full with kids. 12,000ft, 108deg outside temps, High desert, or -20 Michigan winters 154"inches of snow... always starting. Everyone pulls them out at the junk yards I know why!!. I had to change the timing belts and Spark plugs. So I matched all the intake ports, Polished it a little. Daily driver... at 190,000 miles... it was silent. you have a hard time telling at idle if the car is on. You can PUNISH this motor and it will work... I wish more people would get em and mod them... One thing he doesn't go over is the intake runners are dual length and Vacuum controlled 4k rpm feels like you have a turbo..all of sudden.
Dude, our 06 had catastrophic loss of coolant and transmission fluid on the highway. Shut it down right away and hoped for the best. Replaced the radiator, flushed all the fluids. That was five years ago and it's still going strong.
Interesting to see a 1grfe build. I was always disappointed with the lack of aftermarket with my 2GRFE. Basically nothing. Switching to a BMW B48 has solved that 😂
I have a fully built 2GRFE Turbo with a PT6062 G2 turbo... I'm up in the 700whp mark and I know others in the 800whp. There is enough aftermarket. You downgraded 😢.
@dylan4972 that's awesome 👌. My 2GRFE is in a 2008 Camry Chassis. I loved that car but it's too old now. 2GRFE and Aison 6 speed still work perfect. Great power. But it's a FWD Chassis and while stock is excellent the BMW chassis runs rings around it. There's basically no aftermarket at all in Australia for it. I thought about a Lexus but here used they were more expensive than a BMW. Full bolt on b48 will easily get me to 450whp. That's enough for the street in a 1540 kg kerb weight car.
Cool motor! I know you guys are a business, there are a lot of variables and the sky’s the limit but it would be interesting to know the ball park prices on these motor builds. Some engine builders list their prices for complete motors. As an outsider I have no idea if this is a $5000 or a $35000 motor and don’t necessarily want to bother shops by asking for pricing. Thanks!! Love your videos.
They made a pricing video for a K series and LS series build. Their techniques seems similar for most engines, and the K series ranged from $7k to $20k
@@motoiq Thanks! I really appreciate you taking the time to reply to my comment and share pricing with us. This is or a Ford Duratech may be engines of choice for an upcoming project. Need to complete others before starting new ones.
my first car was an '08 rx350...weird to say, but the 2gr in that car was such a pleasure. butter smooth and lots of power. i almost prefer it to the k24 in my civic lol
Had a Corrolla Fx16 hatch that thing ran on pennies and bare maintenance for years while i drove it 120 miles to work daily. I'd be driving 75mph sipping gas and get passed and disrespected by every new model Suv driver, who then would slow to 70 so id know my place lolz, ugliest car besides a Pacer... It lasted so long I watched kids waiting for school from kindergarten till high school and all the people along the way in the country would wave hello when it came by , 6 days a week, 10 years. One set of halfshafts, one single set plugs wires, one belt and 1 fuel filter entire life. (Besides the air, oil, batteries, tires) lowest cost car ever had.
I want to see the motor run in its truck. A tacoma owner 2005 6sp 4.0 4wd . I would love to have that motor. Give costs and I know if you have to ask.?
I have this engine in my truck. And I have heard that installing -3° exhaust cam gears is very beneficial. I don’t know much about how that would benefit me, would you say installing them would be worth my time?
Thanks for plugging your website. I wanted to know if you have anything interesting to share about the n54 engine, and I managed to find a couple of articles like you said!
Great video- your knowledge seems endless and is definitely priceless! You should film the engine build process on this. And then show the engine running 😎 thank you for all that you do- you are among the best in the industry
@motoiq completely understandable. I repair hail damaged vehicles now, and can fix over 100 cars a month, so my brain is mostly mush these days, but your guys' videos keep me fresh yet. Thanks for all the knowledge!
I had a 92 V6 Camry years back, was young and dumb and blew up the 3vzfe revving it too high. The TVIS system was really intriguing as it varied the intake runners based on RPM made it have tons of torque down low. Also had hydraulic fan that ran on the power steering interestingly enough.
Nerd moment- the 3vzfe features ACIS not TVIS. It doesn’t vary the runners themselves, it’s literally just a flap in the top of the intake right before the runners that varies the path of intake flow. Used in the VZ, MZ, and I believe it’s still used today in the GR.
God i wish i could afford to work with a man like this. Sometimes i think it would be worth it to live out of my car to get knowledge like this. I like my job at intel but this...this has always had my heart. And just when i think i know cars i listen to him and think i dont know ish.
Outstanding and informative video! It helps me learn about stuff that can be applied to all motors. Any way we'll be able to see it running and learn about hp it makes?
This engine was developed/engineered to last up too 2oo,ooo miles before failures. Toyota's are built to last. nowadays cars engine are only engineered to last up to 8o,ooo miles .... That's why new cars are hitting the repair shops right after the factory warranty runs out
I would love to know what level of boost warrants some of these improvements. I always thought up to 15 psi was relatively safe for stock engine with no basic design weakness.
I can't believe that he shot peens AND WPC coats the rods. It would be almost impossible to break those rods. WPC coating is worth every cent. Free horsepower and more durability.
i have a 2023 4runner, will my stock 1grfe engine handle a magnuson supercharger for the life expectancy of the engine? Should I upgrade any parts before supercharging?
This man must be protected at all costs.
He's a national treasure.
"...it's really strong, and, I kinda dig that." @2:37 😭😭💯💯😍😍💪🏼💪🏼
I fully agree
@@semoffthis should be a meme lol
That's what I was thinking back in early 2000's when I would read his articles from sport compact magazine in high school also this guy is awesome 😎👍
There is a channel called Frankenstein Motorworks where they developed 2GR-FE capable of over 400 n\a wheel horsepower. And they sell parts that they developed on their site.
That guy is the best. Everything is track tested by him!
Is the 2gr-fe stouter than the 2gr-fks that’s in the Camry?
@@GPZ611 They are both in the Camry. The FKS isn't as tested.
I've purchased lots off him, I have a 750hp turbo 2GRFE.
@@dylan4972dang! Tell me more about it
I'd love to see a video of an engine assembly. I'm sure you have lots of little tricks and tips to share.
Sometimes it’s just nice to listen to someone that really knows what they are talking about!
2015 SR5 V6 Taco owner and is thanking the big man upstairs for Mike sharing his knowledge,tricks, and insight
"I kind of dig that" fav quote
That's was my ¹st choice , till he dropped "built like a Brick Shithouse
This video has a lot of specific machining and assembly info that isnt usually talked about other "tutorials". Very grateful.
Ww🎉w😮w🎉😮😢
I shot-peened my rods and crank in the late 90’s.
1700 crossflow Kent engine. At the time, it was done at the local aerodrome machine shop.
Cast iron with a few more heat cycles, I like that.
I love these engine build videos. Great info, thanks. 😃
YES! I ASKED FOR THIS!
I've never seen anything engine-related explained so technically and thoroughly. I had to subscribe.
I'm a simple man, I see Mike talking motors... I listen.
1gr...has never let me down in 12 years. 05 with over 270k miles. original everything on engine and transmission. only thing I've done is regular maintenance and 2 starters. because the first one i bought was aftermarket lmfao
Also didn't know the crank could handle 1000hp😂 that's awesome!
Good to know I'm at almost 200k with an 07 taco and was getting curious
05 4.0 taco here. My baby sits at 250k but blown head gasket. :( debating what the best move is, obviously I want to get it back on the road.
I'm kind of surprised that squish pad angle and piston cam/taper aren't more widely understood. I learned about engines in the 2-stroke world, where these things were reasonably well known to amateurs in the 70s, and polished to an absolute science by the 80s. Of course, detonation and piston seizure are huge issues limiting almost every 2-stroke enging, whereas things like valves, boost, and oil pressure literally don't exist. I've found that 2-stroke people tend to have an extremely strong understanding of combustion dynamics and NA resonance effects. ITBs and long-tube headers make sense to us. But it took me a solid decade to finally trust that a valvetrain could exist without scattering immediately.
I would love to do this for my 2012 FJ cruiser. The FJ should be turbocharged in my opinion
Wow! What a master class. Thank you Mike
One day you guys should make a video talking about all the cars in the brackground, love your videos, a lot of detail and everything well explained without making it boring!
There are a few on our channel about the R35
Yeah Love Them Videos
I can't believe they put all their tips and tricks out there for everyone ! Some of these details are the type of info that would be protected at all cost in big time racing circles.
Pretty silly that they hide information like that. Generally most of this stuff is all "out there" for anyone to find, but you have to dig and occasionally read actual books. The pros that the other pros are worried about have all read the books. It's only us filthy amateurs out here in the dark, and we're not a threat to anyone but ourselves.
What I find fascinating is that, if you cross disciplines a lot, the super top secrets of one community are discussed openly in others. For example, the minutia of cylinder head porting for optimal flow and velocity seems to be dark magic in the import world, but a cover story in a V8 hit-rod magazine. The science of lean combustion is ultra mysterious and even thought impossible in most of the car world, but every dentist with a private pilot license knows about it. Resonance tuning seems to be a hard concept for a lot of car guys and even some serious tuners to appreciate, but every long-haired Monster Energy chugging 14yr old motocross bro knows why a shorty expansion chamber is gonna make his YZ125 rip harder on the top-end.
Another very informative and helpfull video from motoiq, always refreshing 👌
my 07 in my 4runner has 250k on it no problems its already bulletproof burns no oil no oil leaks nothing just change the oil and put the V8 wix oil filter on it..and penzoil ultra synthetic oil
There's an alternative universe out there where everything is WPC treated. WPC the world🥶
WPC treating is love. WPC treating is life.
I love how people shit on toyota for decades and suddenly everyone is building 2GR's and 2AR's, some of the cheapest, most ubiquitous engines out there. I have 2 myself. Monsters.
I’d love to see you do an old school 5VZ-FE, it’s my personal favorite toyota engine
catcams or kelford has cams for the 2gr. just in cast anyone is wondering. there's rocker retainer clips if you're going to hit close higher rpms too. great motor
I'm taking this WPC and Cyro treatment to the grave. My coffin better be treated due to side coffin wall to ground clearance.
Awesome to see this video. For eternity all I’ve seen on the internet is that if anything happens to the 1GR It’s gotta be junked.
Great to see options here in Aus where the Barra reigns supreme. 1GR fits into many more engine bays and looks beefier than a Barra
Looking forward to seeing it running…and dyno figures
The 1gr is the 4.0, this one is a 2gr 3.5 with dual vvt
I love owning a 2gr-FE, but I’d trade it for a barra any day of the week. At least here in the US we’re making headway with the GM 4200 atlas i6 as a performance swap.
OK.. I have an 06 Sienna... YA LAUGH... IT HAS THE 3.3 vvt MOTOR IN IT, LET ME mf TELL YOU ALL. Butter. I mean like Amazing. I made the Gas boil in the van. 273k Pulling trailers up mountains full with kids. 12,000ft, 108deg outside temps, High desert, or -20 Michigan winters 154"inches of snow... always starting. Everyone pulls them out at the junk yards I know why!!. I had to change the timing belts and Spark plugs. So I matched all the intake ports, Polished it a little. Daily driver... at 190,000 miles... it was silent. you have a hard time telling at idle if the car is on. You can PUNISH this motor and it will work... I wish more people would get em and mod them... One thing he doesn't go over is the intake runners are dual length and Vacuum controlled 4k rpm feels like you have a turbo..all of sudden.
Dude, our 06 had catastrophic loss of coolant and transmission fluid on the highway. Shut it down right away and hoped for the best. Replaced the radiator, flushed all the fluids. That was five years ago and it's still going strong.
Most chill guy ever
It’s funny how engines you may find in a regular car are built very sturdy. Then performance engines have to weaknesses when they should be beefy
You'll always run into a bottleneck lol
Knowledgeable, humble, experience, well explained, simply well done! Please keep this gent creating this type of content. Well done!
Very cool vid, Shld do one on other Toyota engines
(3.4 in the taco/tundra) or maybe these dumb hybrids 🤣🤘🇨🇦
Interesting to see a 1grfe build.
I was always disappointed with the lack of aftermarket with my 2GRFE.
Basically nothing.
Switching to a BMW B48 has solved that 😂
I have a fully built 2GRFE Turbo with a PT6062 G2 turbo... I'm up in the 700whp mark and I know others in the 800whp. There is enough aftermarket. You downgraded 😢.
@dylan4972 that's awesome 👌.
My 2GRFE is in a 2008 Camry Chassis.
I loved that car but it's too old now. 2GRFE and Aison 6 speed still work perfect. Great power. But it's a FWD Chassis and while stock is excellent the BMW chassis runs rings around it.
There's basically no aftermarket at all in Australia for it.
I thought about a Lexus but here used they were more expensive than a BMW.
Full bolt on b48 will easily get me to 450whp. That's enough for the street in a 1540 kg kerb weight car.
Take a shot every time WPC is said
It crazy cause i been doing a bit of research on these GR motors out here. Glad i found this video
Can you do a toyota v8 next?! I think the 4.6 has a lotta potential!
Great content as always
Now do a 2GRFE. The 1GRFE and 2GRFSE are very different from each other. Compare valve sizes and roller rockers.
I'd like to see Mike do build reviews or something? I just want to hear Mike say brick shithouse again...
The Best video and information on all motors on the Internet,,MIQ RULES
It’s easy!
Just buy a Honda!
Problem solved!
I love how it's either one of two options: NA with ALL the RPM or Boosted with ALL the PSI 😂❤
Toyota v6's are already bulletproof all stock unless you trynna floor it at every traffic light😅😅
Even then
5sfe!!!!!!!!!!! 3rz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LIGHT low AND high rpm application! high compression!
Can't wait till someones crazy enough to mod the v35a fts in the tundra and ls500, i imagine it's too complicated to have an aftermarket
you know the block is strong when he says its strong 10 different times in 10 different ways lol
really interesting on the information. I see very few built 2GR and 4GR engines, and only a handful supercharged with kits from RR Racing.
4GR would be interesting
Basically the same
Would be awesome in the GRX130 Toyota Mark X
2GR-FSE ❤
Cool motor! I know you guys are a business, there are a lot of variables and the sky’s the limit but it would be interesting to know the ball park prices on these motor builds. Some engine builders list their prices for complete motors. As an outsider I have no idea if this is a $5000 or a $35000 motor and don’t necessarily want to bother shops by asking for pricing.
Thanks!! Love your videos.
This is around a 16k build
They made a pricing video for a K series and LS series build. Their techniques seems similar for most engines, and the K series ranged from $7k to $20k
@@motoiq Thanks! I really appreciate you taking the time to reply to my comment and share pricing with us. This is or a Ford Duratech may be engines of choice for an upcoming project. Need to complete others before starting new ones.
Would not do Duratech, it's starting to get hard to find parts for them believe it or not.
@@motoiq I got my answer. Thanks and not bad, Cool.
I just cant get enough of this cat. Something about his infectious smile just makes my day!😎
I've heard it's been WPC treated for extreme performance and durability
@@irsever Would make a good drinking game video! 🤓
Ken Geshi runs a 1grfe in his gt86 in formula drift👍
my first car was an '08 rx350...weird to say, but the 2gr in that car was such a pleasure. butter smooth and lots of power. i almost prefer it to the k24 in my civic lol
I don't smoke pot, but I would absolutely burn one with this guy. Hands down, gonna laugh so hard I throw up, but well worth it!
next video please do 3UR-FE V8
I wanna build my Xrunner now
Had a Corrolla Fx16 hatch that thing ran on pennies and bare maintenance for years while i drove it 120 miles to work daily. I'd be driving 75mph sipping gas and get passed and disrespected by every new model Suv driver, who then would slow to 70 so id know my place lolz, ugliest car besides a Pacer...
It lasted so long I watched kids waiting for school from kindergarten till high school and all the people along the way in the country would wave hello when it came by , 6 days a week, 10 years. One set of halfshafts, one single set plugs wires, one belt and 1 fuel filter entire life. (Besides the air, oil, batteries, tires) lowest cost car ever had.
Time for class
How convenient I just got an FJ Cruiser this month 👀
A FACTORY strong block design? *gen 1 coyote has entered the chat*
Yup good design.
Until ur chain tensioners fail. Rebuild time
I want to see the motor run in its truck. A tacoma owner 2005 6sp 4.0 4wd . I would love to have that motor. Give costs and I know if you have to ask.?
i thought having a "bulletproof' toyota engine video was just gonna be a 15sec clip of walking onto a toyota dealership lot
With boost
Does this also apply to the V35A family?
No
Now I'm interested in these Toyota v6 vs the Honda j v6 😅😮
I have this engine in my truck. And I have heard that installing -3° exhaust cam gears is very beneficial. I don’t know much about how that would benefit me, would you say installing them would be worth my time?
"built like a brick shithouse" well said
A 100%.
Of the time he looks like he's about to bust up laughing.It's hilarious
I was thinking of a 1GR or UZ swap for my 04 outback but couldn’t find 1 at the time
Any idea if i can use the 1GR-FE bottom end and mate it to 2GR-FSE heads? TIA.
I'm skeptical, but I'd say your best bet at figuring it is to find good images of their respective headgaskets and compare them.
This is awe inspiring information! Gives me big future plans for my 2008 4Runner! Thanks for all the knowledge!
What about the S62 standing right back to you...? More BMW videos, please! 🤛🏻
Awesome insight on our 1GRs! Would love to see some content an NA build. "Frontiers"!? LOL!
Yeah, who knew they used Toyota motors in Nissan trucks? 😂
Didn’t know you guys made a 1gr vid, perfect timing in case I get a lotus lmao
toyota v6's are not powerful. The company nerfs the output so that the engine can maintain longevity. you want power, go to the big 3
Thanks for plugging your website. I wanted to know if you have anything interesting to share about the n54 engine, and I managed to find a couple of articles like you said!
Great video- your knowledge seems endless and is definitely priceless! You should film the engine build process on this. And then show the engine running 😎 thank you for all that you do- you are among the best in the industry
Most of our engines go out the door and to the customers, we don't do the final installation and tuning so it's kinda hard.
@@motoiq Darn, understood. 👍
@@motoiqHave you guys ever used Total Seal gas ported rings ?
I wish I could afford him to build my z's engine. I'd legit have him sign it.
Wow, thank you! I will sleep so much better now knowing the build quality of this power plant in my truck.
Lotus used these Toyota 2GR engines
Mike's the man
You see Mike using your engine as an example and then he says, "now if it were up to me..."
I also confuse Fronteirs and Tacomas, and I work in a shop also 😅
I used to work for Nissan for many years.
@motoiq completely understandable. I repair hail damaged vehicles now, and can fix over 100 cars a month, so my brain is mostly mush these days, but your guys' videos keep me fresh yet. Thanks for all the knowledge!
As a Tacoma guy… thank you. Yes. We need more power baby.
You should put an estimated total cost of these engines
I had a 92 V6 Camry years back, was young and dumb and blew up the 3vzfe revving it too high. The TVIS system was really intriguing as it varied the intake runners based on RPM made it have tons of torque down low. Also had hydraulic fan that ran on the power steering interestingly enough.
Nerd moment- the 3vzfe features ACIS not TVIS. It doesn’t vary the runners themselves, it’s literally just a flap in the top of the intake right before the runners that varies the path of intake flow. Used in the VZ, MZ, and I believe it’s still used today in the GR.
That Camry 3VZ motor has a forged crank. I've heard people have taken that forged crank and used it in 5VZFE motors.
God i wish i could afford to work with a man like this. Sometimes i think it would be worth it to live out of my car to get knowledge like this. I like my job at intel but this...this has always had my heart. And just when i think i know cars i listen to him and think i dont know ish.
Wow. I'd like to know this guy. A Master of his craft.
Can you please make video about 2RZ or 3RZ and 5VZ for the first gen tacoma bois.
It's almost the same as this.
I can tell you been doing this for more than 30 years
Outstanding and informative video! It helps me learn about stuff that can be applied to all motors. Any way we'll be able to see it running and learn about hp it makes?
Awesome content,thank you for sharing your years of knowledge.
Would supercharging versus turbocharging change any of the details of your build?
No
I wish I could apprentice for you.
That bottom end is very over engineered for only putting out around 270 HP (stock).
This engine was developed/engineered to last up too 2oo,ooo miles before failures. Toyota's are built to last. nowadays cars engine are only engineered to last up to 8o,ooo miles .... That's why new cars are hitting the repair shops right after the factory warranty runs out
I would love to know what level of boost warrants some of these improvements. I always thought up to 15 psi was relatively safe for stock engine with no basic design weakness.
No internal engine work for 15lb? What about piston ring end gap?
whats your thoughts on exhaust cam gears for single vvti 1gr-fe and also intake manifold spacer? cool video. this guy is a wealth of knowledge.
Maybe a slight improvement if you took the time to dyno tune, probably not worth it.
I can't believe that he shot peens AND WPC coats the rods. It would be almost impossible to break those rods. WPC coating is worth every cent. Free horsepower and more durability.
WPC isnt a coating
Mike is like a fun college professor
This video is so important for the future
Thank you master!!!
i have a 2023 4runner, will my stock 1grfe engine handle a magnuson supercharger for the life expectancy of the engine? Should I upgrade any parts before supercharging?
As long as you don't try to get greedy.