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The fact that Jean actually did die again between recording and airing isn't just hilarious, it's also great accidental foreshadowing.
I got stares at the bus at that part when I laughed lol
It took me out😂😂😂😂
I mean powerful characters like her that are able to come back, die all the time. It's not surprising tbh, she's just supposed to be that tough guy that dies so that everyone freaks out and loses hope like, "If she was killed, what chance do we have?"
@@Tony73727You would think that after dying 16 times, those around her would think she isn't that tough after all, and maybe just a glass cannon.
@@Cervando Considering how often she comes back, it’s less she’s not that tough and more like she takes “life breaks”.
The fact that a Death Battle between Jean Grey and Raven is sponsored by BetterHelp, a mental health platform is too ironic.
Thankfully these two have people who would risk their lives to fight off their dark side to protect the universe.
Good on them.
If it was jean grey and wanda it would be more ironic
Ikr
☠️😂
Do you guys hate me?
Jean Grey saying anyone is too dangerous to be left alive is the most hypocritical statement any character has ever made
It’s just the Phoenix being overdramatized
And she thinks she isn't😂
SHE killed herself to stop the phoenix so i see no hypocrites
Faxxx
Facts.
Ok, Phoenix being decimated to just a flickering spark and Raven blowing it out was kind of chilling
That wasn't the phonix anymore she literally destroyed the phonix and Jean as concepts or because she held back and used the borrowed powers instead of full power she mercy absorbed Jean and phonix waiting for Jean to come back
Raven has a history of being cold as ice
@@hunterculpepper1973it was the phoenix force being destroyed lol
that's nothing when raven absobs the souls of the 4 horsemen of apocalyps 🫰
well since she is a daughter of trigon, what would you expect?
@@John-Stark
I can't believe that the bird won.
No way! The bird one!?!? Impossible!
Why would you spoil that
Quit lying; the bird clearly won.
They say Bird is the word. Ca-Caw!
Man I can't believe that Bird won CRAZY 💥
I love how they combined the X-Men: Animated theme song with The Teen Titans Theme song. Low key genius level
Should have waited for jubilee to use the x men animated theme
I kinda hope that Death Battle would do one Marvel vs DC on Laura Kinney aka X 23 vs Rose Wilson aka Ravager. Two girls with father issues, who eventually becomes just like them.
It was fantastic
A music mash-up basically~
Because of that fact this is one of my favorites fight themes.
I like how she blew the light out, when phoenixes are supposed to revive from ashes. That has always been my fav part.
What if there’s no ashes
@@stancinatti8198exactly
@@stancinatti8198 Well i mean DB did create their own noncannon weakness for the pheonix to lose this fight. As she has been able to revive souls on multiple occasions. It wasn't really a weakness anymore.
@@stancinatti8198 then what she blew out ones Jean's and the phonix force itself pride meing rement of the phonix force were spared or raven with just her breath erase Jean and the phonix force from fiction
@@hunterculpepper1973bro what
" I'm not the daughter of a Demon. I am the Daughter of Azarath!"
That gave me goosebumps.
girl bye
@@JoseCruz-yu6ub😂😂😂
@@JoseCruz-yu6ubgirl bye
Frrrr that hyped me up!!
Same
Jean Grey of all people barging into someone's home and accusing them of having a inner demon that needs to be destroyed is one of the biggest bruh moments ever.
Fr I’m pretty sure this is the only time death battle got a character’s personality messed up unless jean grey is actually a hypocrite
@@Deathmare235 normally no but when the phoenix is melded with her she is chad levels of douchy, and it only gets worse the more it comes out lol
X-Men being hypocrite, where's the news? xD
@@WebofSpeedForceTS-FUNo, today just happens to end with a y.
Remember the Phoenix Five story and how, even with the Phoenix fragmented between five hosts, all of them had douchebag levels of messiah complexes?
Me: Wow, Raven has no chance.
DB: We're scaling her to Trigon, pre-crisis Superman, and the Spectre.
Me: Wow, Jean has no chance.
Scarlet Witch/Zatanna vibes all over again.
Everyone thought Wanda would win but nope lol
@@jarelldavis31 And Zatanna scaling to Zorr and Phantom Stranger lol
Why would they do that?
That 3 different versions
@@sonicthehedgehog1606 They use different versions all the time. Also, most people are familiar with the Teen Titans animated version when she's a lot stronger in the comics. Using just one version of these characters would make things rather boring.
which is crazy given how marvel users are all mainly "glass canon" when we have zatanna casually hanging her own neck but still bein alive , the most underrated and underestimated would be enchantress too she managed to beat the jl , raven , zatanna , reality warp on multiversal scale but still her la action vers didnt do any justice to her
@@jarelldavis31
The music was absolutely on point. Matched the tone and rhythms of the most noteworthy eras of both characters, with nods to both individual themes, while still sounding cohesive and modern. Truly a great composition.
I think they’ve absolutely outdone themselves with this soundtrack
I love it when a match can be between beings of similar power levels with common themes and struggles, and still one can simply sum it up as something like “shadow bird fights flame bird let’s goooooo!”
Raven is nowhere near the power levels of the Phoenix.
@@getitboy83Me, Death Battle and I believe a majority of the other comments disagree.
@@usshared1649 I think you should revisit the comments because the evidence supports the contrary.
@@usshared1649 The version of Raven here is composite (I think) and the character overall is very inconsistent from what I've heard. Phoenix is considered one of the strongest beings in Marvel!
Jean was willing to die for the people she cared for. Raven learned to be willing to live for them.
That is poetically poignant.
Huh, I never thought of it that way. Nice observation
Poetry!
you should get an award for saying that ngl
Beautiful
20:19 “Will the the Phoenix rise again, returning from that far shore? Quoth the Raven: Nevermore”
Yo that was lowkey one of the coldest lines I’ve ever heard.
Indeed. Arguably Boomstick’s best closing one-liner
Probably because Edgar Allan Poe wrote it
@@evanholty2909
It’s based on The Raven but that line isn’t in the poem.
Works even more because Phoenix’s White Hot Room is located beyond the Marvel cosmological area “The Far Shore”
It sounds like a poem maybe
I normally will roll my eyes at Boomstick's puns at the end, maybe a snort or a chuckle if it's somewhat good, but the bit of poetry at the end with the Poe reference was actually pretty badass here.
The Music was phenomenal thank you for the attention to details DB!!!
18:13 Okay, Raven simply blowing the last little ember of Phoenix was pretty badass.
Except, Phoenix can't die. The whole Omiverse is connected to her and one time, Galactus tried do erase A SINGLE fragmet of Phoenix and ALL of the universe started dying as a result. He gave up destroying her so reality could survive. The funny thing is, Phoenix didn't even tried to resist because she knew the consequences and knew Galactus would back down.
Again, all of that was just a tiny fragment of the Phoenix Force. Can you imagine the kind of damage killing the entirety of Phoenix could do?
@@fireincarnated4031"Her death would destroy the Omniverse" isn't the same as "she can't die".
@@fireincarnated4031 cough Death Battle cough. Someone's gonna die, regardless of what happens to the universe.
Death Battle? More like snoooooooze battle. Surprised that one of DC’s GOD characters won? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
As a DC Fan, Magic is BS in Comics 😂
Phoenix: What's the matter? Afraid of the light?
Raven: What's the matter? Afraid of the dark?
The fight in a nutshell
I loved that call back. Dr Light is probably having Vietnam War flashbacks somewhere.
@@NickWuebker”…I would like to go to jail now, please.”
@@jamesstump7542 Was about to comment this :D
Nightcrawler vs beast boy
love these 2! it was a pleasure to see them duel in such an awesome way!
Music was awesome, and a ton of the scenes were awesome
I just love how casually they reference Raven's last appearance on the show against Twilight Sparkle
This made me remember that MLP appeared on the show more than Fire Emblem
@@dephony5648 To be fair, Fire emblem is harder to quantify feats.
@@Unagi776 it is, thankfully dimitri has quite a few, he can be scaled to the old crusaders of genealogy of the holy war as they had dragon blood and descendants of dragonkin are quite literally demigods on any battlefield
@@power_rangers_officialhindi689This is way better than twilight sparkle I can't lie
@@dephony5648 Once Discord v Bill shows up later this year it will be the fourth time, which is just as much as Avatar and Final Fantasy to name a few.
That musical combination of Teen Titans theme and X-men theme was freaking BRILLIANT!! Added another layer to an amazing DB.
Dude right!? This whole episode was a master piece!
It’s not DB to thanks it’s Brandon Yates
*Yes, so truueee!!*
Wait, in what part of the vid the music combination happened?
@@aresgeralduy5052 It alternated back and forth a few times, generally with the momentum of the fight. Easier to notice if you follow the link to the song by itself and listen there.
Omg I’ve been waiting for this verzuz for a long time ❤❤
To the people saying Phoenix can restore souls, it doesn''t matter. Raven diedn't destroy Jean's soul, she absorbed it. And you can't restore a soul that still exists, that's soul cloning, which the phoenix has never been shown capable of.
Pheonix is capable of destroy whole marvel dc dude
@tyu168 raven is capable of destroying all dc marvel bro. Both literally have done this. But I bepeave raven went even further destroying the God sphere and the speed force.
@@cngotham4111 she can't destroy pheonix even if she want duh if I will talk bout choas then these little forces gonna be down here
As soon as I heard “as long as Jeans soul is in tact” vs hearing “raven can destroy souls” I was like… it’s over. Raven will win.
Phoenix was dead before she could realize it
I said the same thing 😂
Jeans soul is protected by the Phoenix, funny how DB forgot that.
But raven already equals if not surpasses the Phoenix, so I that I'll not safe
@@omegashinobi Raven isn't even equal to Trigon. How is she surpassing the phoenix? Because death battle said so?
The result was obvious if you combine two fact:
1) Jean needs her soul to regenerate
2) Raven can take souls
I thought that it supposed to be the Phoenix not Jean as the host of the Phoenix against Raven and the Phoenix Phoenix did regenerate Hope soul before 😂😂😂😂😂😂
It was a mega stomp, Raven absorbed 90% of DC she blinks its not even close
They literally just fabricated the soul weakness for Phoenix. It’s never been mentioned before in comics and she has even regenerated life, souls included. So total fabrication.
@@BARDOCK550
I don't know about "mega stomp". Yes, Raven destroyed all of creation, as the Unkindness, but as the video said, the Phoenix held back the destruction of all creation, too. And, the Phoenix Force can touch all universes in existence, so wouldn't that make the Phoenix on even scaling with Raven? They both can reach the very ends of existence.
@@xiamariansupreme72 good point i think I was carried away at the time.
you guys are making these more and more badass!
No like for real people who actually thinks raven is stronger just don’t read jean grey phoenix comics
By far one of the best death battles
I can't be the only one who thought raven blowing out phoenix's flame was pretty cool
Darkness overtook the light. Reminds me of Dark Souls
@@darthcinema4262exept she actually did not won cuz the phoenix always comes back when there's life there's phoenix 😂
@@masterrands3189 Because nobody stays dead in comics, unless you're Uncle Ben, Thomas and Martha Wayne, and the Simpsons (and no I don't mean the ones from the show that never ends)
Let's be completely honest here. This Episode did the Phoenix Force more justice than the movies ever tried to do XD!!!!
I agree definitely
My kid cousins refrigerator art of the Phoenix Force did more justice than the movies … and he’s 12
They missed a good chunk of demonstrated feats of the Phoenix Force. I mean yeah better than the movies, but that's a really low bar.
It did not cause Raven definitely does not scale to Phoenix in no capacity and they miss huge chunks of Phoenix powers.
@@mr.checkyourself4672so you're saying that you know something they dont? Tell us what it is then...
That’s awesome. Wasn’t expecting that
☯☯☯ YIN AND YANG ☯☯☯
And called it.
Called it
Yin and Yang? I thought for sure that the Cipher symbol was the question mark, to represent the confusion over the complete lack of any research you actually did on Phoenix because you were too busy chain-scale wanking Raven to infinite multiversal and pretending that Phoenix doesn't have the same ability as the Ultimate Nullifier, since she's destroyed cosmic beings who represent eternal abstract concepts, and beaten them. And then you also invented that she was weak to soul hax (She's not.)
In Phoenix : endsong Jean said she and Phoenix are one, so i think that Raven could not take or erase Jean Grey soul cause Phoenix is a entity and actually they are one, in the last official Phoenix movie a Blonde woman tried to do take Phoenix soul but Jean was in Control and didnt let It happen, another fact is that Marvel and DC or something like that Said that Raven is equal in Power in their own worlds( Marvel and DC worlds ) with Jean Grey or Phoenix i Heard this somewhere i think you can found the font of that info too, so we can say with total certaintity that Jean lose or Raven lose, Is all about the script and writer decision lol Sorry i tried to talk correctly but my english is not fluent, i am from south america.
what does this mean
This entire ending sequence from 17:46 onwards is masterfully done. Raven blowing out the flame was a chilling way to put down Phoenix.
"chilling" ...lol punny.
Bingchilling
TFS Nappa: "I get it!"
Yknow considering how Archie sonic vs flash went I expected raven to lose
yeah blew me away with how good it was
Jean telling raven that she’s too dangerous to live is hypocritical considering how it’s Jean with Phoenix that can’t control her powers and causes more harm to the innocent while raven keeps her powers in check
hence the result.
point!!!
Yeah. And it’s REALLY out of character for Jean too. Though maybe not on her worse days.
Gotta love how they inaccurately portray a character they made fun throughout her character description. The writing was on the wall before the battle even began. All bias aside, Phoenix clears
@@khans9529 phoenix gets slapped
Love when the matchup is so crazy they just start throwing moons at eachother
14:13 That really helped explain things a lot in the Teen Titan Go "Staring at the Future" episode.
As Boomstick points out, the existence of characters like this makes it all the more hilarious that they team up with people like Robin or Angel.
There's an old comedy skit called "Angel Summoner & The BMX Bandit" that kinda covers that trope. One can call forth the divine host at will to do his bidding, the other is really good at trick-riding a BMX bike. Together, they fight crime.
@@Just_A_Dude I've seen it, it's great.
Phoenix: I can’t believe I lost to Raven!
Twilight Sparkle: first time?
10:27 “smash ponies like a battering ram” that’s hilarious 😂 I love how he saids it as part of the analysis 😂
Phoenix: Yep first time
phoenix: SHUT UP PONY
Raven: Hold That L
lol, that fight should have never happened.
When all things are considered, Raven never being a devil but having all that power technically makes her an angel?
I love how the theme sounds like the Phoenix theme but denonic symbolising how the two are clashing
20:17
How is Boomstick really just gonna drop an absolute FIRE (psuedo-parody) poetry line like, "Will the Phoenix rise again? Returning from that far, far shore? Quothe the Raven- Nevermore!" and nobody going to acknowledge nor expound on that?!?! I got CHILLS
I liked this video because of that ^^
The terrible pun-miser can spit out a few fire lines every so often :)
Boomstick is a literary genius while wiz is a scientific genius
Boomstick may just be the new Edgar A. Poe hahahaha love it
Uhhh aerwsiuho.
Raven will always be my favorite DC character. I remember as a kid watching Teen Titans and her summoning of Trigon: "The gem was born of evil's fire, the gem shall be his portal. He comes the slay, he comes the sire. The end of all things mortal." As an adult her words still gives me chills.
I find myself a Marvel comic reader, but i was hoping Raven would win because of Teen Titan Raven. I just love that show. 😂
not me bcs im not a simp
@@benriquez615 traitor youre not a marvel youre a dc only fan in disguise
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775who cares?
People can like what they want.
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775tbf it’s Jean grey it’s not like people are interested in marvel just for her
At 19:31 raven has a domain expansion
Domanin Expansion: Thicc Thighs
Awesome animation techniques on this one!
Once they said the Phoenix Force can regenerate everything but Jeans soul, then hearing how Raven can literally just tear souls out from others. It was a no brainer how the fight was gonna end.
Point is if she did that outside then ok . But in white room . Dude that's a place equivalent to house of ideas. Fking beyonder is afraid of pheonix in that place .
Yeah. They have really been focusing on abilities this season. Can’t say I agree with the results, but I am happy nonetheless.
Totally
I think what db does is chose who has more pluses than minuses.
bruh phoenix force predate multiverse is god of psychic and creator of mutant powers and infinite possibilities also a reality warper it could have just turn raven into a regular human
Edgar Allen Poe would be proud of Boomstick's "quoth the Raven" line. Nicely done!
Yes I'm sure such a line would have done _great things_ for Poe's terminal depression, _especially_ in relation to a woman.
He really did get into poetry after the Sauron vs. Lich King episode
*Nevermore*
“On a dark midnight dreary”
The music on the episode! Maestro, you have outdone yourself!
Amazing work! Always blows me away
The mashing of the two iconic themes during the battle was spectacular.
I kinda hope that Death Battle would do one Marvel vs DC on Laura Kinney aka X 23 vs Rose Wilson aka Ravager. Two girls with father issues, who eventually becomes just like them.
@@cruzjackal I would prefer if she fought Cassandra Cain.
As soon as they mentioned Phoenix was susceptible to soul attacks I knew Raven had it in the bag
Ikr
Except Phoenix isn't and Raven is nowhere powerful enough to attempt it. She tries then Jean rips Raven's brain from her head and burns whatever remains. This would include Raven's soul being burned.
She literally isn't though LOL. Weaker PF users have canonically just tanked spiritual lvl attacks from Ghost Rider, and WPOTC has no need for a soul.
She isn’t. They literally just made it up so they can give Raven the win. It literally shows the Phoenix restoring a soul in the scan they used…
She isn’t. They literally just made it up so they can give Raven the win. It literally shows the Phoenix restoring a soul in the scan they used…
Just like with Apocalypse and Black Adam’s Death Battle I love that it’s hinted that Raven and Jean know each other. After all DC and Marvel have crossed over several times. It would make sense. I would even venture to guess they’re friends given how similar they are. Would also explain why they both apologized for having to kill each other.
I see it as Phoenix trying to pick a fight with Raven rather then Jean Grey
🤯Brilliant! Never would've thought so, but totally right on! 🔥🦅🔥
The moment they pointed out that Jean must maintain her soul to be revived and that Raven can just casually destroy souls, it was clear who the winner was.
Yeah, It was about "Scared of the dark?" When I remembered Raven could do that.
Honestly once they mentioned that Trigon beat Post Crisis Supes, and Raven beat Trigon, I knew it was over.
@@ronnie3613 Pre-Crisis Supes. As in equal to Superboy Prime who pushed Thanagar across a galaxy into orbit around Rann so quickly that no one on either planet noticed until "sun rise".
@@christianboehlefeld5168+
We're talking beyond multiversal levels of power here. Pushing a planet at high speed is nothing.
Phoenix can protect her soul though lmao
The way they blended the teen titans theme and xmen theme was phenomenal. Very epic soundtrack for this one.
Dare I say this is easily one of the best fights because of music alone?
Yeah I definitely wanted Raven to win 💪🏾
Agreed.. the music was top tier 👌
18:50 in my school vr game extreme feats The Phoenix extreme feet is her taking on powerhouses like the demon Goalius who FRACTURED THE EARTH ITSELF AND SCARED A COSMIC GOD SHITLESS and in Final Fantasy 16 (My school vr game Ifrit Voice actor confirmed that the phoenix force is the first Fire Elkon) with Ifrit help took down Bahaumett and ultima prime for Raven extreme feet that only being able to disable Goalius Antimatter manipulation which was pretty good but until Goalius took the ability and killed her dad her and give the corpse to the demons Labrios and Gomorrah to eat and consume
This was genuinely interesting
I do love these battle sequences. Especially the amusing "This is my final form!", "Ahaha you thought that was my final form? THIS is my final form!", "you are strong, but my final form has ANOTHER final form!!", "agh no... bested by your final forms final, final, final form that was only discovered when your final final form was defeated".
All that just to be defeated by Superman.
It makes sense if you don’t know what you’re up against you’re not going to start off as your strongest self. Thatd be like breaking out a shotgun to kill an ant.
@@TipoIrritablelol
@@TipoIrritable No weapon can penetrate plot armor.
@@artkneeko*observe* the GENIUS of my gardening
Honestly, that was one amazing conclusion. Blowing out the flame was such a impactful visual.
Loved that, hated that it was so short.
It's still good that the only issue is that we want *more.*
@@julianmitchell3035this is exactly why this animation sucked. It was so short. There was hardly any fighting at all, just endless attempts at absorbing each others powers and fire/dark energy blasts at each other. This fight sucked.
you forgot the fact that the phoenix is the physical representation to all life in the multiverse even outside the marvel universe, meaning if anything exists in any universe its simply just a part of the phoenix.
Lol, that's terrible writing and rightfully ignored. *_"Hey, your character is apart of my character because I said so in this book i wrote."_*
Well good thing raven isnt from her universe lmao
@@burgerbandit3646 Yeah it's cheesy and lame but still
@@burgerbandit3646That's clearly biased.
That's...incredibly stupid and unoriginal. There's about a couple dozen characters like that in Marvel comics alone.
I loved the music for this one
10:25 I love how they brought up Twilight's death so casually
Trash MU
Next time on my special day is this Crap MU
You mean defeat, right?
That battle wasn’t even a fair fight.
@@jeremiahbristow7609 I meant what I said
Yeah, still sore about that fight.
If 40+ years of Titans comics have taught me anything, it's that if you want to stop the darkness inside Raven, the best thing you can do is provide emotional support, and the very worst thing you can do is start a fight with her. I half expected Jean to win, but when she impolitely picked a fight with someone who's peacefully meditating in their pacifist home, I'm glad she got to learn the same lesson as everyone else.
Now, maybe when Jean has resurrected they can have a nice, calm chat about how they can help each other out as eternity rolls by.
I am also the Blue Raven.
Yeah she's just a depressed demon witch. Just give her a hug and you've already won. Fighting her is a no no.
I'm pretty sure super Archie sonic could defeat Raven
they gayest comment I read in a while
@@USBase2395raven is stronger than wally west so no
Great video! First time I hard disagree, but keep em coming!
Most beautiful DB yet!
"Forevermore" was the perfect blend of the Teen Titans and X-Men theme songs. You could feel the love for both series and characters in every beat.
Phoenix sucks ass, Raven would easily one shot her....
There's a rage inside my soul, freedom is mine forevermore... sorry, wrong song.
Twilight: Avenge me, Phoenix!
Phoenix: I don't even know who you are.
Wow, that was unexpected. This is probably the best fight in Death Battle.
This is so well done and edited that i have no choice but to subscribe after 1 video 😅
Fantastic episode!! It’s really insane how powerful Jean & Raven are. Couldn’t ask for a better birdfight, as the phoenix challenges the raven, nevermore.
Rather than a catfight.
The “Bird” is the word.
it was compete nonsense, Raven would have one shot lame ass Phoenix....
@@jonathanrhodes4547 the cat fight we really need to see is DC's Cheetah and Marvel's Tigra, nevermind the obvious Catwoman v Black Cat.
🐈🐈🐈⬛🐈⬛
@@russward2612 I’d be down for that catfight. That sounds like a fun battle
I love how, in spite of the incomprehensible power being thrown around, the battle ended with a single breath.
Agreed, it actually felt like the perfect conclusion given the light (fire) and darkness contrast between Jean and Raven.
IT'S TIME FOR A BREATH BATTLE!
Raven vs twilight: her strongest feat was lifting titans tower
Phoenix vs Raven: Raven moving a moon at 17:05
Damn, either Raven got some serious buffs since her fight with twilight or titans tower is as heavy a moon.
The scorching light vs the everlasting darkness. Didn't know i needed this
If I had a nickel for every time a magic using female DC hero beat an ultra powerful female Marvel character in a death battle, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
If you hadn't specified female you would've had three nickels.
I knew Raven would triumph. None can beat the power of goth.
@@watershipup7101 True, but then the reference wouldn't work.
Haha don’t be mad that DC Women would wipe Marvel Universe :)
@@kpopdom5118 They wouldn't though. TOAA exists.
That f*cking Jean Grey dying constantly in the comics joke had me laughing out loud
she just got dealt with agin at the x-men gala
For real. And that music 🤣
@@lhavenoenemies what makes jean even more scary cause now she can scale up to the phoenix now....
BILLY is actually in sence 16:07
I like how y’all combined the X-Men Theme W The Teen Titans Theme🔥🔥
The "editor's note" about Jean's death at the recent Hellfire Gala had me in tears. I was JUST about to say that she died recently out loud, and then they did that. Beautiful.
right, Raven would one shot her easily...
god that issue destroyed me, the last 5 pages just hit so hard omg
@@michaelgamble2848 Well the hard part isn't one shotting, it's getting close enough to one shot and having the tools to do it. Moira was a robot meaning Jean couldn't read her mind, had spent 10 lifetimes over thousands of years learning about these mutants, and had a dagger made of a substance that neutralizes mutant powers.
Plus, jean was exerting control over hundreds if not thousands of people, objects, and robots made to be immune to anything mutants could throw at them, including the most powerful robot in pretty much all of marvel canon (seriously nimrod is insane he could lowkey throw arms with the Sentry and Green Scar Hulk), communicating telepathically with all of them, holding them in place as they tried to break free, and was about to forcibly alter all of their minds to not hate mutants.
Raven definitely has a strong chance of winning, but it wouldn't be easy for either of them
@@michaelgamble2848jean grey is way stronger than raven she’d get destroyed
@@michaelgamble2848little doesn't loll
I absolutely loved the quote at the end "quoth the raven, nevermore". Beautiful and flawless reference.
14:32 is a close second
That’s kind of a ground ball in terms of quotes to me but eh glad you enjoyed it
were you born a hater or, did that just happen along the way?@@ushiookazaki3728
Hola Rosa si lo Creo
Came here from the outtakes. I would've preferred the "Quoth the raven, 'nope'" or similar instead.
White Phoenix >>>>> All versions of Raven!!!
They are like Light and Dark. Complete beings for eachothers but if you want to make them fight, stronger one will win without definite answer for which side will always win.
Edit - Also, this is like Sun and Blackhole.
The build up around Raven in the character description, it was definitely clear shed casually take this. Shes so underrated.
I feel like she's realistically wayyyyyyyy weaker than Phoenix. Phoenix is so unbelievably powerful in Marvel cosmology she takes this easy.
@@bluezebra6701Raven in cartoons is constantly shown to be underwhelming but her comic book self has always been a threat. Don’t know why they never gave her a faithful adaptation
@@bluezebra6701If you're thinking about the cartoon versions of Raven, you're right, but the comic book versions? ... She counters all of Jean, on top of being powerful enough to match her without directly countering her. Raven is legit absurbdly op. Also, sometimes you can have the most op abilities, but if you get hard countered, tough luck.
@@markissacs7784Well they said it in the video to but pretty much she is holding back.
The way the Unkindness bit was taken for like 5 seconds while Jean Grey's WPOTC took like 2/3 of her part revealed the winner
WOW...I didn't see this coming at all🤩
Honestly, if there's anything I've learned from all the Marvel and DC involved Death Battles, its that the "Comic-verse" is freaking crazy and OP, and that I'm glad I've never gotten into either. I'm only here as a Teen Titans show enjoyer lol.
*TIMESTAMPS*
0:07 episode begins
0:38 Jean Grey, the Phoenix
8:20 Raven
15:07 DEATH BATTLE!
18:30 result
20:41 next episode preview
Thks bro
@@ghost14224you're welcome
I honestly wasn’t expecting that end. It’s cool to see just how powerful Raven is
I mean, i knew she was powerful, but not on Phoenix level. Guess i was wrong xD!
@@FawlkerTrigon is ridiculous bro so being comparable to him in itself is too much
It should be noted that the theme of Raven's entire character is that she is severely holding back for the benefit of everyone else on the planet.
It's downplayed in the shows and movies she's in, but yeah Raven is batshit insane on the power scaling lol
remember Superman's "This world is like cardboard to me. I have to always hold back. If I lose control even for a moment, someone could die." ?
that speech is also easily... Raven's .
Yes you missed a fee things on Phoenix like how it can pull souls from future. And took down beyonder which from feats more powerful than trigon. Feel like missing some info here
Good job on the soundtrack
In my opinion, I think this is a Fantastic way to represent two characters that are Literally the souls of Light and Darkness. And that Darkness does not always mean Evil.
But the light will always win
@@Deathmare235 Not on Death Battle.
@@Deathmare235 In Korra VS Storm, the darker one won
@@captainmd3361 Storms not dark
@@cobiabruggeman6592 Not that dark.........
5:00 This is honestly one of the funniest bits thats come about from Death Battle in a hot second. The phoenix's analysis in general just had me dead ☠️
Y'know, if comic books could bother to keep their dead characters, well, _DEAD_ then that might just improve their writing a teensy-bit.
@@mrreyes5004One could argue that’s part of the charm of comics,Not me, but certainly someone out there
"i think they could have talked this out"
@@mrreyes5004 but then the stakes are boring because nobody famous would ever die
@@mrreyes5004 it is a weird sorta ground for creators to try and approach cause while on one end it would make sense in the terms of the original story, these are characters that people really do want to see more of (and ya can't really have that if they hit an early grave). But on the other side of that argument, there are spinoffs or I guess in terms "what if" type of stories for that reason and in many cases, there have been characters who either just can't die or just too stubborn too die (I mean, the next match up is literally just too angry to die), can actually be worked into good writing, all be it gets super repetitive and unoriginal now a days. But I do see a point even if I'm not fully on a side of completely killing off a character.
Nice one guys :) I loved it. Very sweet end of intros for both.
In one of the sources Raven's name, given to her by Trigon was Pride. And for me it always made a weired amount of sense - while all other Deadly Sins that serve Trigon exist in multitude, Raven (or rather Raven's soul) is a sole existing Demon of Pride. So while pride exist in any form, Raven can not be trully killed.
One of the greatest displays of power ever,Raven literally blew the PHOENIX out like a candle!!!
This is not even Canon lmfao I say it was pure bias
@@deeqhassan5810Phoenix?
More Doneix!
Hahaha
Raven >>> Jean
FR 🤣
@@liviubostan7229phoenix 1 taps
Made my a dc fan that’s why
this is perhaps my favorite battle of the season! its just got so many cool moments! the scream into the laugh, the final spell from raven, ravens pure body smashing out of her charred body! Its just so awesome!
Over Dragonborn vs Chosen Undead and Darth Vader vs Obito?
@@tytyfamilygamer14 over both of them, this one wins easy for me! I love sprite art battles more than 3D ones personally as well so it gets more points there!
Great video man and phoenix and raven fighting in this video is so amazing :]
What about Spawn VS Raven? Might be just as fun to see. Think on the level that both of them killed gods or at least contended with such with ease. I think it might still be Raven as the winner though, due to her soul never dying...Anyone for that idea? Spawn VS Raven?????
how about doctor fate versus darkseid
@@voidly6162pretty sure though fought in comics lol. They don't do vs battle with people from the same universe.
*Spoiler warning from this quote*
"Let true dark be cast upon the world. Our lord hath returns."
In all seriousness this was definitely a battle of sun and moon, blazing light and casting shadow, almost Yin and Yang. I'm glad that they actually showed off Ravens full potential.
I thought that it supposed to be the Phoenix not Jean as the host of the Phoenix against Raven 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Superfoczka1it’s a DC character so they’re going to bend things to make them win.
@@Superfoczka1it’s a DC character so they’re going to bend things to make them win.
@@Aureilius2112 This is blatantly false, a prime example is Batman vs Cap and Batman vs Iron Man. Nothing was bent in this, because Pheonix literally couldn't kill Raven
@@HallowedKeeper_I think the w-l record is tied actually
Edit: I checked the wiki, it’s 14-14
15:13 My assumption here was they were having a conversation in the mental space while Jean was on her way informing Raven what she wanted to do and Raven was trying to convince her to stop. Neither side would listen and that’s why they fight as soon as she shows up.
Or she could've just sense her coming 🗿
@@phoenix5583 Yes but that’s much less fun to actually be the reason
@@phoenix5583Yes 🗿
Goth girls always wins.
@@_Vergil_ As well they usually should
Wait… Who TF was the last goth we had on Death Battle? JoJo doesn’t count
The fight felt like the two were playing uno and constantly throwing their reverse cards at each other. The winner just had one more
This is an unserious battle. A woman who's the daughter of a demon against a woman who's the host of a cosmic entity.
It seems your judging this base on backstories
When they're both functionally immortal but only one has the ability to destroy the soul of the other, it wasn't hard to figure out how this was going to end.
At least in this one it's a canon power. Dante vs Bayonetta was stupid (he supposedly can't lose because he's just incapable of death, although the creator of both characters suggested otherwise) and Tifa vs Yang was poorly based (I love RWBY and would otherwise be happy for Yang to win, but Aura doesn't have ridiculous levels of durability. Remember the part where she literally lost her arm to a (yes, powered-up) sword slice? Punching a pillar with a person sandwiched between still does most of the force to the PILLAR, her Aura largely just prevented her being fully crushed by what forces were actually on her.).
@@JarieSuicune these clowns get their info from google search and are really biased based on the fanbase. these vids should only be taken as a entertainment.
Phoenix Force actually can destroy the soul. Dunno how Death Battle missed one of the most basic things, but Phoenix Force consumes souls. It actually learned how to manipulate souls too in the wake of Rachael Grey, it now borrows souls from the future to resurrect people. And with Phoenix Force absorbing part of The Beyonder and it's powers, it's a multiversal entity.
Raven would have to purge the entirety of existence of it's souls in order to snuff out the Phoenix Force canonically, assuming the Phoenix Force didn't do it back to her in the interim.
@@monodythey mentioned it somewhere in the video
@@jazirionthomas8569 They mentioned part of it, and did not mention the factoid about consuming and utilizing souls, and then promptly forgot to apply it in the fight itself any ways.