There’s a few fairy types, but there is one in particular who is incredibly strong. Togekiss is used by Cynthia, who’s already strong enough, so you shouldn’t need to worry about yet another Pokemon strong against you while providing you no type advantages.
@@blunk778 the Clefable and Jigglypuff are both in Sinnoh I believe. I know for sure Jigglypuff is, because of the cute charm glitch in the original gen 4 games.
@@DaSheepKiller I thought the remakes were suppose to use the Platinum Dex, which added a few more fire types like Houndoom to Sinnoh, did they change their mind and go back to the regular Diamond and Pearl Dex?
@@kitsu1379 Other fire types are obtainable for the player in the Grand Underground, but the regional dex is the same as Diamond & Pearl and in the main story trainers only use Pokémon from that dex.
@@DaSheepKiller that's an... odd decision why would they do that? do they not remember how much people hated the fact the fire type elite 4 member on had 2 fire types? like i get it, it's a remake of diamond and pearl, but why do back a step in terms of important trainer's potential team make up?
I'm gonna have Kricketune on my team since it help me a lot back in Platinum. And with new moves that came out before gen 4, I'll fine out myself if have gotten better.
Whenever I see *Top # you shouldn't use in [Insert Pokemon Game]* I remembered Karen's words *"Good Pokemon Bad Pokémon. Strong Pokemon. Weak Pokemon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites. I like your style. You understand what's important."*
I don't think Cherrim should have a new evolution, I just think Flower Gift should boost Special Attack instead of Physical Attack. It would definitely make it usable as an automatic +1 to SP ATK in the sun. Including a Choice Specs and it can ohko a Toxapex after Rocks
I feel that Rampardos is still viable to use. Sure, it's kind of a glass cannon, but if it lands an attack, it will HURT. If I'm able to easily get Rampardos, then I'd be willing to have it be a part of my team. If not, then there's always a second playthrough. Edit: I did finish BD with a Rampardos, and it was a real battering ram, no pun intended, during my playthrough. Its massively high Attack stat and surprising amount of coverage helped me immensely during my playthrough.
Can we also point out that Pokémon games are easy as hell? You can literally use a PU team and along as you have half a brain you can sweep 2nd round Cynthia lol
I’d use ponyta more often if it didn’t take till level 40 to evolve. That’s so late. Should have made it 28 or 30. I don’t want to be 75% done with the game and still have a weak ponyta
Saaaame, there were so many times where when choosing a fire type I've never used before in games I would look at ponyta and think "yea why not" then I remember it's lvl 40 evo and then I immediately drop it.
@@orangeyellow9695 That's an entirely reasonable choice since Houndoom and Rapidash have the same Base Stat Total of 500, only those stats are distributed differently. It also helps that you can get Houndoom at Level 24 over Rapidash's 40.
I’m here to encourage anyone to use ANY Pokémon they want as long as you fully evolve and train it. The game is made so that you can beat it with whatever team you want.
I passed Bertha only with Abomasnow, Cynthia's Garchomp also went 2hit KO with ice shard. In platinum I always used him. When I start a new adventure in other games where Abomasnow is unavailable or late in game I breed one and transfer it.
@@eamk887 my plans of using togekiss and mamoswine are completely ruined, way to destroy my dreams pokemon, at least I have honchkrow and garchomp to compensate
@@pearce9063 i dunno about you but my rampardos steamrolled crasher wake WITH rockthrow, which they resist. His attack is so high i took out quagsire in 2 hits, and he was only 2 or 3 levels above him *except gyarados, he was weak to rock*
It's not unusable though.. This sounds really hyperbolic. If pachirisu managed to be used in competitive, the list isn't even that bad. People should be free to use whatever they want
Same :) leveling was actually really bad and at the start he lost a lot of battles.. but after 50 lvl and some experience this crazy pokemon won me whole pokemon League ! 🤟🏻
I’m using Bastiodon on my team currently and he literally one shots every Pokémon we go against. Mainly because he has crazy moves he can learn exp: ice beam, flamethrower, thunder, thunderbolt ect. Plus his defense and special defense are crazy so he’s pretty much a tank
Abomasnow should be number 10 , 100% accurate blizzard makes it better than the fossils rapidash and chatot+ it also has a fantastic move pool as wood hammer and earthquake and rock slide pretty much covers all its weaknesses aside from fighting .
Chatot has been incredibly useful for me with guaranteed confuse off of a fairly strong attack with 100% accuracy. I could see why you'd say he's not worth it in the OG games, but I was completely harassing gym leaders/Pokemon League with Chatter and Parting Shot.
I always use a Bug type on my first journey through each region and Kricketune was the one I picked for DP when it came out and I loved the Pokémon. With that Metronome and Fury Cutter, all you needed was two attacks and either a slow Pokémon or one he was strong against and he was OKing mostly everything. I love Kricketune.
"Muh gardenia to be destroyed you need Fire types" Me: laughs in Starly, Staravia, Chatot, Drifloon and *insert tons of bug types* you can find in the woods , also Abra if he learn a Psychic offensive move can easily destroy Grass/Poison Gardenia types
Yeah. And I'm fairly certain that in Diamond and Pearl you didn't have access to Ponyta until AFTER Gardenia because the earliest route you can find it on is the cycling road route. Which you cannot use until you get the bike. Which is locked behind her gym badge? So that particular "hey you need x type to beat this leader" is rather flawed. Because by that logic Infernape would be the only viable team lead to get through the game.
Abomasnow is pretty good tho Snow warning is amazing And rapidash became a great member for playthrough it has a pretty good movepool Flare blitz wild charge drill run poison jab
I'll have to 100% agree with including Spiritomb. I was even going to use one on my team, but then found out interacting with other players underground isn't all that easy. You can't go up to them and press A to interact, so it's difficult to keep track of who you're talking to and how many people you've talked to. All you get is this weird call option where you make an image go over your head. Yeah, you can also talk to NPCs underground to contribute to that number, but after walking around a few times to find Togepi, I have only ever found one NPC not including the Hikers. Yeah, take it from someone who made somewhat of an attempt, don't bother with Spiritomb. You're better off breeding on in Sword and Shield and Banking it over to your games if you really need one. The method to get one there is SIGNIFICANTLY easier and less needlessly complicated. UPDATE: So...I ended up managing to get one. Turns out, in the post-game, you actually benefit from spending a lot of time underground, so I spent the past day combing through all the areas in the game. Still a little annoyed with how it was handled, though. The NPCs shift, as it turns out, so it's impossible to keep track of them.
NGL, I’m doing a hardcore nuzlocke as my first playthrough and Kricketune carried HARD as FUCK in the early game. He has a special place in my heart now lol. He literally got replaced almost immediately, but, fury cutter is fucking cracked
Literally the same thing, I caught a Kricketune just stay in my PC, and then when I lost a few Pokémon I brought him out and he dished out damaged up until I got wiped in the 4th gym.
I had Kricketune on my team all the way through and even used it when beating the pokemon league, it's really not that bad as people say. X-scissor does a lot of work if you just, you know... don't throw Kricketune in against things it's weak against?
I have to fully disagree on Mothim and Wormadam; they get quiver dance at level 20, and having such a strong move so early is truly underrated. At +1 speed with max investment, Mothim outspends max speed base 123 Pokémon. Also Wormadam-Grass will have the bulk to potentially set up multiple Quiver Dances, and stay healthy with Giga Drain, while Sandy form will help boost its lower defensive stats, and Trash Coat gets to boost up against those x4 super effective Flamethrowers. While they won’t be gamebreaking, getting quiver dance before Gardenia will really be OP, at least for a few badges.
I remembered how people feared Rampardos initially, having the highest attack stat in the entire game at the time, a large movepool, and access to Rock Polish but it turns out to be nothing but hype. Such a shame because he has a cool design. Thanks Mystic for another fun list.
I feel like Ramparados is still good, if you are able to train its speed because of its obscene attack stat. Pair with rock polish, and you can one shot basically any pokemon with its ability Mold Breaker.
Honestly the game is easy enough that you could probably get through it with minimal issues using a team only comprised of these mons. The only places you might run into issues is elite 4 and post game.
Spiritomb and Abomasnow are worth it in my eyes. And Rapidash does have a unique moveset among fire types that can be played around with. The most important thing to ask is if they have buffed hail. Not time, but effect. Make it GENUINELY useful other than just activating rare hail abilities and 100% blizzards. Granted we’re in gen 4 so the ice types are all more worth it than they seem. Most of these belong here though. A lot of these Pokémon can be decent in trick room. Especially Rampardos. I think I’ll just be using Abomasnow or Spiritomb on this list. I’m already bothering with a Milotic in this game. And that’s…not easy to do.
@@pokeinator7834 Froslass is the other ice type I want to play with this time. Mamoswine and Weavile have remained amazing all these years. What I like to do is a make a team for each starter. Then I don’t have to be so choosy with what I REALLY want to play with.
@@pokeinator7834 because I’m an undying Torterra user, I often try and avoid overlapping types. So I love Mamoswine but I can never fit it on my main team. That’s part of the reason why I start making different teams other than my big main. Too many options to NOT explore.
Abomasnow may have 4x weakness to fire. But there's like 2 fire types in the game. And it can learn moves to protect itself from fighting type Pokemon. Honestly its biggest threat is Infernape and there's only a few times you'd fight that outside online.
In my opinion (before seeing the video): Staraptor, Luxray and Garchomp 😂 man that might be one of the most used cores in pokemon of all time. Would much prefer using an unique team with pokemon I have never used before in a sinnoh playthrough
I think the list is quite good and that kricketune deserves to be on the list but I would say that it is useful early on particularly when it has fury cutter or false swipe to help catch pokemon early on and in the mid game.
Purugly, Chimecho, Mothim, Garchomp, Empoleon and Luxray/Toxicroak is the team I will be using. The first three are three of my favorites and Empoleon is my favorite water starter so I’m pretty excited
My team will be infernape , staraptor , garchomp , gallade ; tentacruel , pachirisu I won't recommend anyone to use pachirisu ... I use it because it's so cute ..you can use luxury or roserade instead
Pachirisu? What is this, the 2014 world championships?! I don’t actually blame you for using it- the 100% chance of Paralysis from Nuzzle is too good to turn down.
The playthrough is so much more fun when you use Pokémon you never used before Sinnoh is so limited so the only Pokémon I’m using on my time that I used before is Roserade
Wormadam (Trash cloak) has plenty of uses to lower accuracy with its steel typing with mirror shot & lower special attack with flash cannon & can learn attract to stop attacks of the other gender i just hope thay get another bug type move to use
Woah why you gotta hurt my girl Wormadam. I love that Pokémon since I used it the last time I played Pearl and it just did so much better than I thought it would. The trash cloaks typing is so useful for a safe switch in then teach it metal sound and some special attacks and you’ll be able to deal with anything that’s not got fire moves
Chatot w/ certain moves was good for pokemon cool contest and Kricetune w/ certain moves is good for cute contest [according to the official pokemon Platinum guide]
I will try with a Trash form Wormadam. I think she has a good typing, Bug/Steel, with only 1 weakness to Fire. The ability Anticipation literally advice us for the Fire weakness. She has good defence stats and with moves like Toxic and Gyro Ball..she can surprise us me thinks.
if i can't get one naturally, i'm going to trade over an ability patch from sw/sh to give my rampardos sheer force. then i'll give it a bunch of moves that are affected by sheer force, like rock slide, zen headbutt, and fire punch. then, in the postgame, i can give it a life orb, and destroy literally everything. also, i'm going to use a quiver dance mothim. fight me.
Rampardos was on my original diamond team and that boy was a monster highly recommended especially with a quick claw and his wide move Pool covers a lot of weakness’s
I enjoy grass periodically (if you know, you know) but the amount of weaknesses that Grass type Pokemon have always stops me from picking them as starters. The only ones I can visualize myself using are Leafeon or Roserade tbh
Lol @ Abomasnow mention. First of all, no mention of Aurora Veil setting with its auto-hail ability. Add a light clay on it and you have 8 turns of reduced damage output. Second, we likely are able to find Snover earlier in the game due to the underground Then you mentioned using Leafeon, which we can't even get in the main game.
Doesn’t matter which Pokémon you use in the main game, just have fun. As long as you don’t have an abysmal group with no effort put in you can win with ease
I used a Carnivine during my last normal playthrough of Diamond and it really is as bad as Mystic said it is. That's why I'm planning to use Leafeon as my Grass type in Brilliant Diamond.
@@ethandollarhide7943 platinum Pokémon = grand underground From the people I've seen on r/pokeleaks, Eevee is post game and Bebe doesn't give you Eevee in Hearthome city until post game
@@AdamDawson3 Flamethrower on Skuntank is weak; it's a special move on a physical attacker. Octillery is a better candidate for Flamethrower, although there are reasons not to use Octillery. Blaze Kick on Lucario is the best option (but takes some effort and Lucario is already strong against Ice and Steel. Fire fang on a Draipion works as well. But with Torterra, Staraptor and Lucario, there is even no need for a fire move.
Every RUclipsr has been saying that Spiritomb and Sableye did not have a way to be hit super effectively before Fairy types. Why does nobody remember Foresight + fighting type moves??
Alright my team I’m thinking of using are 1.) Infernape 2.) Staraptor or Togekiss (I know Togekiss is the better option but I’m not ready to say goodbye to my Staraptor 😭😭. This Pokémon had my back in my platinum run and Endevour is such a useful move when you’re caught in the ropes. Such a useful move and such a great and loyal Pokémon. 3.) Tyranitar 4.) Garchomp with ability sandveil (You know where I’m going with this 😎) 5.) Manaphy (Get this from preordering the game because February 8th, 2022) 6.) And lastly Magnezone (This dude is like a tank) debating whether I want the sturdy or magnet pull ability pls help. Thank you all for reading this and pls feel free critique my team, I want to hear as much feedback as possible. Thanks so much
First off Kricketune as bad as it is really help me a lot in my playthrough to Pokemon Diamond/Platinum, i even had it in my Nuzlocke and made it through the 6th gym which did its best. And with new TM moves that had came out after gen 4 ill try something out for my Kricketune. Second why do you have to put both Pokemon Rampardos & Bastiodon in the 7 slot when 1 has is better than the other? Seriously this is a top 10 Pokemob list it should be like this:- 10. Spirtomb 9. Chatot 8.Rapidash 7.Bastiodon 6.Rampardos 5.Abomasnow 4.Cherrim 3.Kricketune 2.Wormadam 1.Unown There a proper *actual* top 10 Pokemon you shouldnt use. Though i like i said before with new moves and Pokemon coming out of after gen 4 theres no telling if the game has change since then. And also as an honest opinion I suggest picking a Pokémon you actually like, even tho it may not be viable in battle/matches.
Rapidash is underrated. Sure it’s not competitive but for casual play through it’s fine. Heck you can even teach it solarbeam for coverage against water Pokémon or those annoying water/ground Pokémon. Solarbeam becomes even better with a sunny day setup. And yes houndoom is better being fire/dark. But there are lots of good Pokémon with the dark type or dark moves.
I chose Rapidash over Houndoom, mainly because I didn't find Houndoom all that useful. I used a weird team, but Torterra, Luxray, and Gyarados all had Crunch so it didn't phase me.
I used a cherim in a platinum nuzlocke once it wasn't bad Then it got hit by a horn drill... Mothim was pretty useful as well...then it died to a crit I will say wormadam is pretty good just because it's early game steel
I agree kricketune isn't that great story wise, but if you're shiny hunting post game, it learns sing and can also learn false swipe by being taught it
I think Spiritomb won't be so bad due to the limited fairy types in Sinnoh. I still think its worth it for a playthrough and in the game as a whole
Outclassed by the other ghost types in the region but it’s not that bad
Theres only 2 fairy pokemon from my recollection so thats not awful
There’s a few fairy types, but there is one in particular who is incredibly strong. Togekiss is used by Cynthia, who’s already strong enough, so you shouldn’t need to worry about yet another Pokemon strong against you while providing you no type advantages.
@@PansyPops i can only think of togekiss and gardevoir
@@blunk778 the Clefable and Jigglypuff are both in Sinnoh I believe. I know for sure Jigglypuff is, because of the cute charm glitch in the original gen 4 games.
Mystic: Don't use Rampardos.
Me: Gonna use Rampardos because it just looks cool.
Wish it had more speed like 70 or so would be good enough
Plus slap a choice Scarf. And ur good to go
Slap quick claw on it and then you solve the speed problem lol
@@Dstag both quick claw or focus sash and you should be fine
Idc what he says Im still using rampardos because he cool and strong to me because im all about attack
"Abomasnow is 4x weak to fire, so it's bad"
If only there was a way to switch pokemon out when there was a threat 🤔
Also there's only 2 fire types that trainers will use in the main story so I think it'll do fine lol
@@DaSheepKiller I thought the remakes were suppose to use the Platinum Dex, which added a few more fire types like Houndoom to Sinnoh, did they change their mind and go back to the regular Diamond and Pearl Dex?
@@kitsu1379 Other fire types are obtainable for the player in the Grand Underground, but the regional dex is the same as Diamond & Pearl and in the main story trainers only use Pokémon from that dex.
@@DaSheepKiller that's an... odd decision why would they do that? do they not remember how much people hated the fact the fire type elite 4 member on had 2 fire types? like i get it, it's a remake of diamond and pearl, but why do back a step in terms of important trainer's potential team make up?
@@kitsu1379 I guess ILCA & Masuda, despite numerous complaints, didn't think we hated anything about Diamond & Pearl.
"Top 10 pokemon you shouldn't use in Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl."
Me: I'm gonna use them.
Jesus christ, really? OOF
Yeah same. Maybe not all of them, but I'm using Wormadam and Rampardos for sure
I'm gonna have Kricketune on my team since it help me a lot back in Platinum. And with new moves that came out before gen 4, I'll fine out myself if have gotten better.
@@akilcharles3473 Oh it has got way better than its original generation dw, it still hasnt got quiver dance but i hope they finally give it that.
@@FLITTLEFANATIC ✌ this is as close I can get to 'cross my fingers'.
Whenever I see *Top # you shouldn't use in [Insert Pokemon Game]*
I remembered Karen's words
*"Good Pokemon Bad Pokémon. Strong Pokemon. Weak Pokemon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites. I like your style. You understand what's important."*
B A S E D
The only respectable Karen
FACTSSSS
Cherrim and Kricketune really should have another stage in their evolutionary lines IMO. It would make them more usuable.
I'd like the Kricketune evo name to be like Krickophony (cricket and cacophony).
Sinnoh has some hits and misses with certain lines such as those. They won’t see any real play. Oh well.
Cherrim's forms could've been split into two separate Pokemon. It'd be like a grassy regional Bug: small -> compact -> full bloom.
funny that in vgc cherrim has a niche with groudon
I don't think Cherrim should have a new evolution, I just think Flower Gift should boost Special Attack instead of Physical Attack. It would definitely make it usable as an automatic +1 to SP ATK in the sun. Including a Choice Specs and it can ohko a Toxapex after Rocks
Thanks for giving me the list of Pokémon I’m going to use! I was struggling coming up with a team idea, but a trash tier team sounds fun.
Said the same thing 😂
Flyingpress, you should just challenge yourself by beating the game with only Mothim and all 3 Wormadam forms.
Ur last 2 pokemon will be HM slaves
@@darianclark3980 😂😂 interesting
I came here looking for the worst Pokemon team I can build to whoop my buddy with 😂
@@ShatteredNight139 I hope you knock his socks off with that team
Roserade, the Alakazam of the Grass/Poison types.
I feel that Rampardos is still viable to use. Sure, it's kind of a glass cannon, but if it lands an attack, it will HURT.
If I'm able to easily get Rampardos, then I'd be willing to have it be a part of my team. If not, then there's always a second playthrough.
Edit: I did finish BD with a Rampardos, and it was a real battering ram, no pun intended, during my playthrough. Its massively high Attack stat and surprising amount of coverage helped me immensely during my playthrough.
Let me give you another reason to do so: *It learns Rock Polish, and that TM will definitelly be available in game* 😉
@@heavenlystarboi2697 That makes it even better!
Can we also point out that Pokémon games are easy as hell? You can literally use a PU team and along as you have half a brain you can sweep 2nd round Cynthia lol
You'll be able to to find it by digging in the underground, and it's also a Diamond Exclusive.
@@sharblast I was going to choose BD, anyways, so that won't be a problem.
"Don't use Chatot, he is trash!"
Chatot: laughs in Nasty Plot (you can teach it without breeding) + Boomburst
He Says not to use chatot yet i raged over a nasty plot chatter boomburst chatot that winded up destroying my team last platinum play through 😂
Chatot never had boomburst back in platinum days
Either way a damn chatot ran through my team and this dude says not to use him 😂
Chatot chattering away
I’d use ponyta more often if it didn’t take till level 40 to evolve. That’s so late. Should have made it 28 or 30. I don’t want to be 75% done with the game and still have a weak ponyta
Saaaame, there were so many times where when choosing a fire type I've never used before in games I would look at ponyta and think "yea why not" then I remember it's lvl 40 evo and then I immediately drop it.
Fr. Shit should be a 20ish lv. Evolution or fire stone evo.
I used it diamond, and it gets the job done. Not the best, but at least it's ok for in game.
In platinum, I used houndoom.
@@orangeyellow9695 That's an entirely reasonable choice since Houndoom and Rapidash have the same Base Stat Total of 500, only those stats are distributed differently. It also helps that you can get Houndoom at Level 24 over Rapidash's 40.
@@yoshibrothers9982 what's not to like about a fire demon dog?
I’m here to encourage anyone to use ANY Pokémon they want as long as you fully evolve and train it. The game is made so that you can beat it with whatever team you want.
Except the Pokémon league lol
YEAA The elite teams In general make u wanna train atleast some of the OP pokemons ina game😂 so u could have strong type against them
I passed Bertha only with Abomasnow, Cynthia's Garchomp also went 2hit KO with ice shard. In platinum I always used him. When I start a new adventure in other games where Abomasnow is unavailable or late in game I breed one and transfer it.
No faint lvl 100 Caterpie run
"I'm basing this off the platinum pokedex, since we're getting that at least"
*Cries in rotom*
I mean, it's in the game, you just can't use it until post-game, lmao.
195/215 ain’t too bad. Would’ve liked to have Tangrowth and Yanmega for the main story though…
I wanted Glaceon :’(
@@eamk887 my plans of using togekiss and mamoswine are completely ruined, way to destroy my dreams pokemon, at least I have honchkrow and garchomp to compensate
@@sagitiger What? You can get both Swinub and Togepi before the second gym in the Grand Underground.
Abomasnow, Rampardos, and Rapidash are all perfectly useable. I plan on using Abomasnow on my team.
Of course they're all usable, they're just not good
@@pearce9063 they’re average but not great. Regardless I wouldn’t want all of them on my team.
@@pearce9063 i dunno about you but my rampardos steamrolled crasher wake WITH rockthrow, which they resist. His attack is so high i took out quagsire in 2 hits, and he was only 2 or 3 levels above him *except gyarados, he was weak to rock*
@@ripshow6417 yes everything is useable for story playthrough:P . Especially with how overlevelled teams end up being.
@@pearce9063 I guess, I just feel even with full iv and ev training, ramparts and abomasnow have their uses in competitive play too
It's not unusable though.. This sounds really hyperbolic. If pachirisu managed to be used in competitive, the list isn't even that bad. People should be free to use whatever they want
You bet I’ll change my in game team to use all these Pokémon.
I used Abomasnow in Platinum, he was quite useful
Ah the days of infinite weather
Same, it's my favorite Pokémon
@@coldzoroark6440 Very good taste!
its snow warning ability punishes sturdy Gravelers hard, and can be used strategically. and abomasnow looks badass
Same :) leveling was actually really bad and at the start he lost a lot of battles.. but after 50 lvl and some experience this crazy pokemon won me whole pokemon League ! 🤟🏻
I’m using Bastiodon on my team currently and he literally one shots every Pokémon we go against. Mainly because he has crazy moves he can learn exp: ice beam, flamethrower, thunder, thunderbolt ect. Plus his defense and special defense are crazy so he’s pretty much a tank
metal burst is an insane move with a wall of a bastiodon
In the past:
Trainer: Go Chatot
Chatot: MOTHERF-
Can't WAIT to get houndoom in BD. That dark fire typing is so good in Sinnoh and I don't get to use that good dog often
I don't think I've ever used it for a playthrough. I've always been a "my Pokémon must be a 3 stage evolution" guy 😂
jokes on you, i believe houndoom is an SP exclusive
@@whobobwhatpants7789 houndoom is both games
@@whobobwhatpants7789 and where did you hear this from?
@@tak3sh129 could’ve swore i saw it on a video showcasing version exclusives
Even though its bad, I still plan on using a very defensive Bastiodon cause he's just a big beefy boi and I love him lol
Abomasnow should be number 10 , 100% accurate blizzard makes it better than the fossils rapidash and chatot+ it also has a fantastic move pool as wood hammer and earthquake and rock slide pretty much covers all its weaknesses aside from fighting .
And Sword/Shield gave it Earth Power. Now the question is how can it have it in the remakes.
Chatot has been incredibly useful for me with guaranteed confuse off of a fairly strong attack with 100% accuracy. I could see why you'd say he's not worth it in the OG games, but I was completely harassing gym leaders/Pokemon League with Chatter and Parting Shot.
I always use a Bug type on my first journey through each region and Kricketune was the one I picked for DP when it came out and I loved the Pokémon. With that Metronome and Fury Cutter, all you needed was two attacks and either a slow Pokémon or one he was strong against and he was OKing mostly everything. I love Kricketune.
"Muh gardenia to be destroyed you need Fire types"
Me: laughs in Starly, Staravia, Chatot, Drifloon and *insert tons of bug types* you can find in the woods , also Abra if he learn a Psychic offensive move can easily destroy Grass/Poison Gardenia types
Yeah. And I'm fairly certain that in Diamond and Pearl you didn't have access to Ponyta until AFTER Gardenia because the earliest route you can find it on is the cycling road route. Which you cannot use until you get the bike. Which is locked behind her gym badge?
So that particular "hey you need x type to beat this leader" is rather flawed. Because by that logic Infernape would be the only viable team lead to get through the game.
@@aaronwishard7093 yes, in Route 211 you can
My Crobat Loved the grass Gym...
Abomasnow is pretty good tho
Snow warning is amazing
And rapidash became a great member for playthrough it has a pretty good movepool
Flare blitz wild charge drill run poison jab
I'll have to 100% agree with including Spiritomb. I was even going to use one on my team, but then found out interacting with other players underground isn't all that easy. You can't go up to them and press A to interact, so it's difficult to keep track of who you're talking to and how many people you've talked to. All you get is this weird call option where you make an image go over your head. Yeah, you can also talk to NPCs underground to contribute to that number, but after walking around a few times to find Togepi, I have only ever found one NPC not including the Hikers. Yeah, take it from someone who made somewhat of an attempt, don't bother with Spiritomb. You're better off breeding on in Sword and Shield and Banking it over to your games if you really need one. The method to get one there is SIGNIFICANTLY easier and less needlessly complicated.
UPDATE:
So...I ended up managing to get one. Turns out, in the post-game, you actually benefit from spending a lot of time underground, so I spent the past day combing through all the areas in the game. Still a little annoyed with how it was handled, though. The NPCs shift, as it turns out, so it's impossible to keep track of them.
I love Obamasnow. It's a rough use, ill give you, but it was fun nonetheless. Used it in my original Plat playthrough.
@@THGMR-ox7sd Yes we can, baby.
@@MikesterMF im crying💀🤣
Not to be confused with rival Romneysnow
I can't help but feel a little insulted since most of the pokemon on this list are my personal favorites from Sinnoh :P
NGL, I’m doing a hardcore nuzlocke as my first playthrough and Kricketune carried HARD as FUCK in the early game. He has a special place in my heart now lol. He literally got replaced almost immediately, but, fury cutter is fucking cracked
Literally the same thing, I caught a Kricketune just stay in my PC, and then when I lost a few Pokémon I brought him out and he dished out damaged up until I got wiped in the 4th gym.
This list makes want to use these Pokémon even more.
I had Kricketune on my team all the way through and even used it when beating the pokemon league, it's really not that bad as people say. X-scissor does a lot of work if you just, you know... don't throw Kricketune in against things it's weak against?
I’m just gonna try to use Mons I have never used so Spiritomb, Carnivine, Cherrim, Burmy evos are atleast being considered
I have to fully disagree on Mothim and Wormadam; they get quiver dance at level 20, and having such a strong move so early is truly underrated. At +1 speed with max investment, Mothim outspends max speed base 123 Pokémon.
Also Wormadam-Grass will have the bulk to potentially set up multiple Quiver Dances, and stay healthy with Giga Drain, while Sandy form will help boost its lower defensive stats, and Trash Coat gets to boost up against those x4 super effective Flamethrowers.
While they won’t be gamebreaking, getting quiver dance before Gardenia will really be OP, at least for a few badges.
I remembered how people feared Rampardos initially, having the highest attack stat in the entire game at the time, a large movepool, and access to Rock Polish but it turns out to be nothing but hype. Such a shame because he has a cool design. Thanks Mystic for another fun list.
Technically it’s always been outclassed about dyoxys attack, but yeah, to this day it has the crown out of non legendaries non megas.
Trick room!
I feel like Ramparados is still good, if you are able to train its speed because of its obscene attack stat. Pair with rock polish, and you can one shot basically any pokemon with its ability Mold Breaker.
I mean, Abomasnow is a cool yeti. I know he has a double weakness to fire, but fire is also lacking in Diamond and Pearl anyway.
FLINT THE BANE OF MY LIFE and also in singles cherrim killed a giratina in sword!!!
My cherrim
Honestly the game is easy enough that you could probably get through it with minimal issues using a team only comprised of these mons. The only places you might run into issues is elite 4 and post game.
This list might change when the games come out next week
Man really named half my team huh.
Regardless im going in with my bois
Torterra, bibarel, rampardos, kricketune, spiritomb, toxicroak.
I used Kricketune in Platinum I think and loved it. I sometimes go through a phase where I use weaker pokemon.
Spiritomb and Abomasnow are worth it in my eyes. And Rapidash does have a unique moveset among fire types that can be played around with.
The most important thing to ask is if they have buffed hail. Not time, but effect. Make it GENUINELY useful other than just activating rare hail abilities and 100% blizzards. Granted we’re in gen 4 so the ice types are all more worth it than they seem.
Most of these belong here though. A lot of these Pokémon can be decent in trick room. Especially Rampardos. I think I’ll just be using Abomasnow or Spiritomb on this list. I’m already bothering with a Milotic in this game. And that’s…not easy to do.
I agree I actually was gonna use abomasnow if not glalie or weavile
@@pokeinator7834 Froslass is the other ice type I want to play with this time. Mamoswine and Weavile have remained amazing all these years. What I like to do is a make a team for each starter. Then I don’t have to be so choosy with what I REALLY want to play with.
@@Kaempfdog dude I need to use mamoswine
@@Steven-tc4vl nah bro golduck is good but gyrados is stronger and cooler
@@pokeinator7834 because I’m an undying Torterra user, I often try and avoid overlapping types. So I love Mamoswine but I can never fit it on my main team. That’s part of the reason why I start making different teams other than my big main. Too many options to NOT explore.
Using all of these Pokemon, got it, thanks Mystic!
Abomasnow may have 4x weakness to fire. But there's like 2 fire types in the game. And it can learn moves to protect itself from fighting type Pokemon. Honestly its biggest threat is Infernape and there's only a few times you'd fight that outside online.
Heracross is good, it’s neutral to rock now because fighting destroys it. Flying types are bad for him 4times weak.
In my opinion (before seeing the video): Staraptor, Luxray and Garchomp 😂 man that might be one of the most used cores in pokemon of all time. Would much prefer using an unique team with pokemon I have never used before in a sinnoh playthrough
Yes, i love using underrated Pokemon but bastiodon i used once but...it was terrible
Garchomp is a beast though, I can’t help but have it on my team lol
So hype for the new game
same
Same
I think the list is quite good and that kricketune deserves to be on the list but I would say that it is useful early on particularly when it has fury cutter or false swipe to help catch pokemon early on and in the mid game.
In spite of its various weaknesses and flaws, I’ll still love Cherrim for what it can do and what it is
Same here
Purugly, Chimecho, Mothim, Garchomp, Empoleon and Luxray/Toxicroak is the team I will be using. The first three are three of my favorites and Empoleon is my favorite water starter so I’m pretty excited
My team will be infernape , staraptor , garchomp , gallade ; tentacruel , pachirisu
I won't recommend anyone to use pachirisu ... I use it because it's so cute ..you can use luxury or roserade instead
Pachirisu? What is this, the 2014 world championships?! I don’t actually blame you for using it- the 100% chance of Paralysis from Nuzzle is too good to turn down.
@@PansyPops Can't Raichu also use Nuzzle?
The playthrough is so much more fun when you use Pokémon you never used before Sinnoh is so limited so the only Pokémon I’m using on my time that I used before is Roserade
Wormadam (Trash cloak) has plenty of uses to lower accuracy with its steel typing with mirror shot & lower special attack with flash cannon & can learn attract to stop attacks of the other gender i just hope thay get another bug type move to use
Woah why you gotta hurt my girl Wormadam. I love that Pokémon since I used it the last time I played Pearl and it just did so much better than I thought it would. The trash cloaks typing is so useful for a safe switch in then teach it metal sound and some special attacks and you’ll be able to deal with anything that’s not got fire moves
"I am doing the platinum pokédex because we know atleast we get that"Yeah about that😬
I was kind of offended and ashamed when I saw Abomasnow in the thumbnail, considering I'm currently playing Shield with Abomasnow as my Ice type 😅
Now I’m going to make a team with these Pokémon and beat the game, thanks for the recommendations lol
Chatot w/ certain moves was good for pokemon cool contest and Kricetune w/ certain moves is good for cute contest [according to the official pokemon Platinum guide]
I will try with a Trash form Wormadam. I think she has a good typing, Bug/Steel, with only 1 weakness to Fire. The ability Anticipation literally advice us for the Fire weakness. She has good defence stats and with moves like Toxic and Gyro Ball..she can surprise us me thinks.
Aren’t wormadam all female lol
That's ironic considering that Wormadam are 100% female.
Yeah, Trash form may be the best Wormadam.
I love the angry fanboy picture you use for the rants😂
You can really play through the story with anything once you really learn the game mechanics. If you don’t use all burmy and combee you’ll be fine
6:10 - Me who found 5 fossils in 10 tries. Wow!
if i can't get one naturally, i'm going to trade over an ability patch from sw/sh to give my rampardos sheer force. then i'll give it a bunch of moves that are affected by sheer force, like rock slide, zen headbutt, and fire punch. then, in the postgame, i can give it a life orb, and destroy literally everything.
also, i'm going to use a quiver dance mothim. fight me.
Rampardos was on my original diamond team and that boy was a monster highly recommended especially with a quick claw and his wide move Pool covers a lot of weakness’s
They did my boy Luxray dirty..oh well, thank goodness Jolteon is a thing
true
Electabuzz is actually decent
@@THGMR-ox7sd life is tough for a eletrick physical attacker
It could have gotten Zing Zap...BUT they gave it to Pincurchin instead.
@@lorenzomabalos9851 and togedemaru
I enjoy grass periodically (if you know, you know) but the amount of weaknesses that Grass type Pokemon have always stops me from picking them as starters. The only ones I can visualize myself using are Leafeon or Roserade tbh
Skuntank needs more love
I used Abomasnow on my team just for fun and he ended up being more valuable to the team than I expected, at least in my play through
I'm definitely gonna use them
Lol Wormadam is my favorite gen 4 Pokémon. I used the trash cloak on my team. :D
And here I am, going to use two of the Pokémon on the list because I think they fit the character I wanna play 😂
Always enjoy your videos ♥️
Bastiodon is great for competitive battling. It is a great staller and it can learn stealth rock.
You can literally use any Pokemon in the story and you’ll be fine
definitely my ponyta one taps everything
I really love how the portion for Abomasnow is called “Obama Snow” in the time of the video.
Lol @ Abomasnow mention. First of all, no mention of Aurora Veil setting with its auto-hail ability. Add a light clay on it and you have 8 turns of reduced damage output. Second, we likely are able to find Snover earlier in the game due to the underground
Then you mentioned using Leafeon, which we can't even get in the main game.
Wait, what? In the remakes too???
@@DrawciaGleam02 post game only. You can’t encounter Eevee until after you beat the Elite 4
@@UltraBall23
Boo! I'm trading for one then!
(I'll likely get the game later than every one else)
Doesn’t matter which Pokémon you use in the main game, just have fun. As long as you don’t have an abysmal group with no effort put in you can win with ease
I used a Carnivine during my last normal playthrough of Diamond and it really is as bad as Mystic said it is. That's why I'm planning to use Leafeon as my Grass type in Brilliant Diamond.
I think Eevee is post game sadly :(
@@kingrusty1st931 Not if they use the Platinum Pokedex and it looks like they are.
@@ethandollarhide7943 platinum Pokémon = grand underground
From the people I've seen on r/pokeleaks, Eevee is post game and Bebe doesn't give you Eevee in Hearthome city until post game
Just transfer one over from home
I'm using Torterra, gotta have that STAB Earthquake
Mystic’s eevee is hitting puberty!
@Mahdi Hasan I meant The eevee that is in between Pokémon
Now thats ice stone is a thing, I think of using a glaceon for the first time. won't have to wait until a late game location
Good luck. Eevee isn’t available till postgame
@@archiebell9573 damn, thats a bummer
In platinum you got one in hearthome city
@@joltx9909 yeah it’s really inconsistent with what platinum content they bring across
You don't really need a fire type in Sinnoh. Staraptor does the work and another pokemon can learn a fire type move.
Skuntank gets Flamethrower straight away after evolving from Stunky
@@AdamDawson3 Flamethrower on Skuntank is weak; it's a special move on a physical attacker. Octillery is a better candidate for Flamethrower, although there are reasons not to use Octillery. Blaze Kick on Lucario is the best option (but takes some effort and Lucario is already strong against Ice and Steel. Fire fang on a Draipion works as well. But with Torterra, Staraptor and Lucario, there is even no need for a fire move.
Is there a Discord for BDSP or something? Like for when you need to trade for evolve. If so please share link 🙏🏼
Hey man I’ll be interested in doing some trades I’ll be playing brilliant diamond if u play shining pearl that’ll be good.
@@azulfuego1021 ah damn, sorry man im also gonna use Diamond. For Gliscor and Electivire
@@diablo5028 no prob bro, appreciate it.
Let's create one bro.... if im allowed to join.... im shiny hunting for starter
I got both games
I like your videos - and your cute Eevee to Umbreon evolutions in the background!
Every RUclipsr has been saying that Spiritomb and Sableye did not have a way to be hit super effectively before Fairy types. Why does nobody remember Foresight + fighting type moves??
Spiritimb is also a ghost type
@@akrocksproductions3441 Foresight makes fighting and normal type moves able to hit ghost types
Cuz nobody wanted to waste time using foresight lol
@@jellalshadow2318 maybe not you, but it was def fun for me to actually use foresight for the first time ever when I played D/P back in 2006!
@@ashwinkarnik115 that requires an extra turn and by then ur pkmn could be dead
14:47 Pokémon not to use in the BDSP is
1) Umbreon 2) Kricketune 3) Carnivine
*sees Abomasnow in the title card*
Alright, I'm ready to get my feelings hurt
I was worrying the entire video my favorite bird, Honchkrow would be there. Big sigh of relief.
I think use whatever you want lol its not competitive
Since the game will probably be too easy it might be a good idea to use these pokemon
Why didn’t you even add Mothim in the Weakest Bug-, and Flying-types lists? 🤨
No joke, my Kricktune was an MVP on my team. Mine was really fast and could crit very easy
Alright my team I’m thinking of using are
1.) Infernape
2.) Staraptor or Togekiss (I know Togekiss is the better option but I’m not ready to say goodbye to my Staraptor 😭😭. This Pokémon had my back in my platinum run and Endevour is such a useful move when you’re caught in the ropes. Such a useful move and such a great and loyal Pokémon.
3.) Tyranitar
4.) Garchomp with ability sandveil (You know where I’m going with this 😎)
5.) Manaphy (Get this from preordering the game because February 8th, 2022)
6.) And lastly Magnezone (This dude is like a tank) debating whether I want the sturdy or magnet pull ability pls help.
Thank you all for reading this and pls feel free critique my team, I want to hear as much feedback as possible. Thanks so much
A modest Magneton holding eviolite is faster, has more bulk and the nature makes its SP. ATK as strong as a neutral nature Magnezone
Bruh you weak to fighting moves for days
@@jellalshadow2318 That’s why I have Staraptor or Togekiss but I think I might go with Togekiss
"There are much better grass types than Abomasnow"
*Proceeds to name a plethora of grass types
First off Kricketune as bad as it is really help me a lot in my playthrough to Pokemon Diamond/Platinum, i even had it in my Nuzlocke and made it through the 6th gym which did its best. And with new TM moves that had came out after gen 4 ill try something out for my Kricketune.
Second why do you have to put both Pokemon Rampardos & Bastiodon in the 7 slot when 1 has is better than the other? Seriously this is a top 10 Pokemob list it should be like this:-
10. Spirtomb
9. Chatot
8.Rapidash
7.Bastiodon
6.Rampardos
5.Abomasnow
4.Cherrim
3.Kricketune
2.Wormadam
1.Unown
There a proper *actual* top 10 Pokemon you shouldnt use. Though i like i said before with new moves and Pokemon coming out of after gen 4 theres no telling if the game has change since then. And also as an honest opinion I suggest picking a Pokémon you actually like, even tho it may not be viable in battle/matches.
"Don't use Cherrim!"
Jokes on you I'm doing it anyways because it's adorable! Cherrim and Dustox ftw!
These Pokemon will probably suck when they return to VGC as well.
That is there will be a VGC for these games.
Cherrim is strong in 2v2 battles
Spiritomb is 100% usable. i am gonna use for my monoghost team!
Ya considering there is only like 4-5 fairy types in the game.
Unless you want to wait until the postgame then you'll have to wait for Spiritomb
Maybe not for the game run. But will absolutely usa in Online battle and when I verse my friends haha.
@@sizzas4503 i made a 6iv spiritomb with bold nature and special def - special atk evs etc with moves like rest, calm mind dark pulse etc. Its insane.
Rapidash is underrated. Sure it’s not competitive but for casual play through it’s fine. Heck you can even teach it solarbeam for coverage against water Pokémon or those annoying water/ground Pokémon. Solarbeam becomes even better with a sunny day setup.
And yes houndoom is better being fire/dark. But there are lots of good Pokémon with the dark type or dark moves.
I chose Rapidash over Houndoom, mainly because I didn't find Houndoom all that useful. I used a weird team, but Torterra, Luxray, and Gyarados all had Crunch so it didn't phase me.
I used a cherim in a platinum nuzlocke once it wasn't bad
Then it got hit by a horn drill...
Mothim was pretty useful as well...then it died to a crit
I will say wormadam is pretty good just because it's early game steel
I agree kricketune isn't that great story wise, but if you're shiny hunting post game, it learns sing and can also learn false swipe by being taught it
I know Cranidos/Rampardos aren’t great but I have to have a shiny ✨ on my team.
Use trick room duh!
@@adammorin2955 And for Bastiodon, use Power Swap