WCW Bash at the Beach 2000 Full Show Discussion w/ Vince Russo
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- Опубликовано: 2 сен 2017
- On this monumental episode, Vince Russo breaks down the most talked about Pay-Per-View event in the history of professional wrestling - WCW Bash at the Beach 2000 featuring the controversial events surrounding the WCW World Heavyweight Championship match between Hulk Hogan and Jeff Jarrett, Eric Bischoff's role in the events, Vince's epic promo, Booker T winning the belt, what lead up to the event, the aftermath and more. Going back and forth from behind and in front of the camera, Vince walks you through the events leading up to the show that he has never discussed until NOW! Shoot, work, who knew, who didn’t-all revealed HERE by the man who lived to tell the story! Brought to you by RussosBrand.com This episode originally aired on The RELM Network and PodcastOne on May 29-31, 2017.
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Imagine a conversation between Terry Bollea & Vince Russo. Bro bro brother bro brother brother bro.
Bob From Earth lmfao that's awesome
U mean Hulk Hogan
I always thought an in ring segment between Hulk and Russo would be amazing. They’re right in each other’s faces “bro” ... “no.... brother”...... “no.... bro” .... brother. Bro. Brother. Bro. Brother. Bro. Brother!!! BRO. BROTHER. BRO. BROTHER. BRO
@@Super122291 same shit grow up
@@s-rankpashakuzu2915 no theyre different. One HAS a massive dick, the other IS a massive dick.
I really enjoy hearing Vince's side of all these stories.
Need
Think anyone cares how a lonely homosexual like you feels Kevin?
Is more like comedy… / or probably fictional comedy..
I actually believe Russo more than Bischoff.Just because Russo has nothing to lose and no one to offend.Eric Bischoff on the other hand is a very close friend to Hogan and he will say the story and twist it just to make Hogan and himself look good.
Agreed 100%
Having booker t walk out as champion was the right decision, it doesn't matter what anyone says about Russo, he was doing what was right.
If Hogan came back later as a heel and they did a belt vs belt angle down the road, it would have made perfect sense. But WCW wouldn't just stay the course and let things develop. And Hogan is always difficult.
Hogan is difficult. He broke in at a time where you never gave up your spot and put the good of the company before yourself. And in the later part of his career his attitude hurt WCW and TNA. He was at a point where losses wouldn't affect him either way but still was always hesitant to put over anyone else.
@@GLPitt1 will booker t still wrestle against hulk hogan for the wcw world heavyweight title and win after hulk hogan won the belt off of jeff jarrett?
Watched this vid. Went back and watched the PPV. I have to admit it. This was a fun show top to bottom. I honestly enjoyed it.
Im not the biggest Russo mark on the planet but I give credit where it is due.
This show should have been the beginning of a great run. What a shame things worked out how they did.
This PPV was honestly better than most I have seen in years.
Can still picture in my head when Jeff layed down for Hogan I thought the whole thing was a shoot.
Agree. Realising it was a work makes you realise it was actually a great move for building interest. Hogan not coming back was perfect even if it wasn't the plan as it was such a great way to begin a new era with Booker, Steiner, DDP, Sting, Flair and no Nash, Hogan, Hall. They had a lot of young guys signed like AJ who would have came in after they closed too.
brother vs bro
how do we get this guy back in ?
Russo has helped ton young wrestler. He never buried anyone. He stood up to hogan
Bro bro bro bro bro bro bro , okay bro?!
This would of been better if he had hogan and bischoff in this interview
I agree that Raw is complete and utter garbage now.
I’d rather watch the WCW stuff in 2000 vs this crap
Russo is the man . Bro , wwe needs him back ....
TNA needs guys who know how to write stories and create characters and to stop copying AEW and just being an indie
On thing I do agree with Russo on is "kayfabe" can still be done today despite us knowing it's all scripted.
12:30 - nailed it 🤣💪🏽💯
The main reason WWE went PG was because Linda McMahon went into politics.
That and the Benoit tragedy
DarksaberForce Agree
Mr. Jacobs a lot of it has to do with toy brands and things like that.
It was a mix of Linda and I believe they signed with new toy company.
As much as Russo gets heat from the guys, I will admit he did the one thing that nobody else would have at the time. He put the belt on a very deserving Booker T.
I'm not a Vince Russo fan but he was right no way wrestling is best it's ever been not even slightest
It is from a work rate standpoint, but as far as wrestlers who connect with fans, it's the worst ever.
This will never happen but Russo needs to be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame.
Stephanie's a cunt whose achieved nothing in wrestling
YOU FUCKING DUMB
I was 20 and loved every second of it 🤘🏼🔥☠🔥
Lol Russo is so funny. At 49:58 he says "her fat ass"(under his breath) in reference to midajah.
26 bros plus in the first 10 minutes
Jay Bradbury
Bro’, did you really count all the “bro’s,” bro’? You know bro’, that’s insane bro’. Bro’, it blows me away bro’. Thank you bro’. Bro’, counting all the “bro’s” in this “bro’ video” is hella “bro’-ish,” and you should proud of yourself. Bro’, not just as “A” bro’, but “THE” bro’. Bro’, you are the KingBro’, not just another Bro’Follower. BRO! Bro’, you are the Bro’s’ bro’, not just another bro’ amongst “JustBro’s”. You know bro’? You are the absolute bro’. BRO’! Bro’, it’s awesome you remain humble, even when you are the GodBro’. You know bro’? You’re like JesusBro’, but, bro’, you know bro’, you’re better bro’. Bro’, the best quote, bro’ ? Here, bro’, bro’ here it is:
The quote bro’, is at 8:09 bro:
“Jeff, you know if I... you know how like somebody tells you something... enough... times... you begin to believe it?” Bro’, it’s if Vince “Bro’” Russo, says “Bro” enough, is bro’-marks and bro’-fans, would look at Russo like he was one of our bro’s, like he was the Bro-G “the O.G. of Bro’s.
Can't wait to hear Hogan responds to this interview.
Hey the shows I make on WWE2K19 in universe mode are more edgy then the shit WWE is putting on today. Goddamn...
Okay, here's the thing. The whole "you did something that they thought was real" argument has flaws...doing something so outlandish that leads to people thinking the show is scripted and it's all about politics...that seems great in the short term and counterproductive in the long-run. Yes, everyone knows the business is a work, but at the end of the day, these are performers. When actors perform a play, they don't keep breaking character with the excuse that "well, the audience knows we aren't REALLY these characters."
My ONE beef with Russo is that he was a heel but he would go to San Francisco and wear a Bonds jersey. That pissed me off. That's a babyface thing.
Russos didn't watch the paper view? Russos is the one that talks about this after 17 yrs.
Adds up to exactly 329 “BROS” within 1:32.36 time... love ya BRO
Prayinsinaz 05
Bro’, did you really count all the “bro’s,” bro’? You know bro’, that’s insane bro’. Bro’, it blows me away bro’. Thank you bro’. Bro’, counting all the “bro’s” in this “bro’ video” is hella “bro’-ish,” and you should proud of yourself. Bro’, not just as “A” bro’, but “THE” bro’. Bro’, you are the KingBro’, not just another Bro’Follower. BRO! Bro’, you are the Bro’s’ bro’, not just another bro’ amongst “JustBro’s”. You know bro’? You are the absolute bro’. BRO’! Bro’, it’s awesome you remain humble, even when you are the GodBro’. You know bro’? You’re like JesusBro’, but, bro’, you know bro’, you’re better bro’. Bro’, the best quote, bro’ ? Here, bro’, bro’ here it is:
The quote bro’, is at 8:09 bro:
“Jeff, you know if I... you know how like somebody tells you something... enough... times... you begin to believe it?” Bro’, it’s if Vince “Bro’” Russo, says “Bro” enough, is bro’-marks and bro’-fans, would look at Russo like he was one of our bro’s, like he was the Bro-G “the O.G. of Bro’s.
2000 Bash at the Beach was a Great PPV. TOP to Bottom.
summer 91 LOL No
The show itself was complete trash. It was legendary only because of the Russo promo
@@greatone33j thats the point. It was that crap that Russo had to shoot on Hogan to give people summat to talk about
"Freakin" is the new "bro!"
your the best I love being part of the brand
If that wasnt a shoot that is the dumbest work EVER
Daphney was very attractive.
Mike Messier still is
brandon coffin still is
Bro, Freaking, Bro, Freaking, Bro, Bro, Bro, Freaking, Bro.
What the frick bro
Hogan refused to lose a match to Jeff Jarrett and ended up leaving WCW because of the consequences of his decision. And rightfully so.
Are they trying to say people thought it was a real serve on Hogan? Hogan did the same thing at Halloween Havoc nine months earlier.
If you want your wrestling company to go out of business hire this guy for creative
The way this comes off is like because Russo had a problem with Bischoff, he didn’t want Hogan with the belt. That’s the part that won’t make me feel Russo was right in this situation. Hogan was still big enough to beat Jarrett. I also wouldn’t pick Jeff Jarrett to beat Hogan. You’d literally kill Hogan’s character making him lose to someone like that. I didn’t consider Jarrett in the same league as Hogan. He was a 2nd tier, Hogan was a 1st tier.
Vince is right when he say today theres no continuity in story lines if not having stories at all .
You have to be kidding me "if people did the right thing, I would be writing WWE television" WHAT?!
That boring ass "shades of blue" show was mentioned. I was an extra on one show. I'll just say that JLo isn't exactly what you would call down to earth.
I'm now wondering if Russo got to WCW earlier if he could've saved the company??
Vince is on point
Russo talks a good game, gotta give him that.
Bray Wyatt was a huge positive boost for WWE but I hear that they jettisoned the Wyatt family cult gimmick and working Wyatt up to
It’s such a shame the way mike awesome was booked in wcw they should have put him in the title picture off the bat that man was such a beast
what's this about bro
First of all, Hulk Hogan is a hundred and ten percent in the right here, To all of the clueless Hulk Hogan hating marks out there, To prove that Russo had no long-term story planning and was not good at it.All Russo had to tell Hogan was what was next. Hogan didn't care about winning the title , he just wanted to know What's next. Hulk Hogan also paid his dues and also worked his ass off to get to where he was, Why he was able to establish creative control. And it was a smart business move because Hogan has been screwed in the past From AWA to WWF. Screw Russo and his bullshit Narrative.
People still talk about this heck it's a great moment to see all that passion from in promo by Vince Russo. However WCW was horrible at this but it had been bad since spring or summer of 1999 although that was no fault of your own cause you were there 3 months then they brought in Kevin Sullivan he was there only 3 months then they brought you back then 6 months later they brought in John Laurenitis so the company changed their tone 3 times in a year. Other than Bischoff they never gave anyone any time to establish the product & get their feet wet. Although WCW still had a fan base even & the show was still the highest rated on The Turner Networks despite WCW were way behind The WWF & Pay Per View buyrates was terrible. There was still a fan base.
Bro!
I mean technically it was a shoot I mean yeah he might have told hulk he was gonna do it first but I'll be darned if he didn't mean what he was saying when he got on that mic
Wrestling was a lot better then than it is today. The women's division is the only thing that's gotten better.
Russo states he was set by Eric and Hogan? Really?
The botch at the beach
I Love Wrestling.
Tried playing the "Bro" drinking game, but I'm 9 min in and FU*KED up!! Guess I'll sober up and listen to the rest
Russo had his moments with wcw it was better than it had been for quite a while. Ralfus and Screaming Norman was funny. The main problem with Russo is there's never continuation week to week which is kind of the entire point of wrestling. BatB 2000 was where I turned off WCW for last time enough was enough.
Bro bro if he and DDP had of had a conversion bk stage it would b a bro fest then if hogan got into the conversion it would just b them saying bro bro bro bro. And hogan with his brother I think DDP Russo and hogan would still sayin bro and. Brother till this day a bro off brother
I wonder who wrote bash at beach??? Lmfao bro brotherrrr
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The difference between wwe and wcw is wcw never had a vince machman who makes the ultimate decision
Gaz Nexhipi Machman lol 😂
This is truth. Russo has a creative mind, but if he's not kept in check, that shit will roll out of control. McMahon was able to oversee and keep Russo's ideas workable.
When Russo has free reign we get shit like Judy Bagwell on a forklift or Viagra on a pole.
Bro
Jeff Lane
Seems to me the two biggest enemies in the end of wcw were hogan and Bischoff. Granted the latter is probably a decent guy in real life, but the wrestling business creates more scumbags than politics every could
They were the biggest enemies at TNA too
OK bro, bro, bro, OK bro
It's funny he's talking about inter-gender matches and how they may not ever happen again but it's 2017 at the time of me posting this comment and James Ellsworth went one-on-one with Becky Lynch this past Tuesday looks like we're getting ready to go back to the Attitude Era LOL
Take a drink every time he says bro. Game over.
Marks
I wonder if Hulk Hogan won the case vs WCW because he has a case for WCW breaching his contract
It got thrown out
In my opinion he SHOULD have won that case!!!! WCW firing him was a breach of contract
They breached fuck all. He left cause hes a whiny prick.
he did such a great job the company folded soon after.
mel bias Company never "folded". The parent company was purchased and new ownership started looking at profits and losses. Time Warner sold WCW to McMahon because WCW was losing a lot of money which is Bischoff's doing. Russo was only the show's writer. He was not head of production or talent relations. The mess of WCW had begun long before Russo left WWE. That is Bischoff's doing with the personal blessing and financial support of Ted Turner. Without Billionaire Ted's ok, Bischoff would have not been able to hand out such lucrative and counter-productive contracts and other wasteful financial deciaions.
Ted Turner killed WCW by selling his entire network and leaving WCW without any support from on high.
Just like Dixie killed TNA in much the same manner. Bad financial decisions kill companies every day.
Russo Work as smart as I am?
Here’s why the fans don’t express themselves in the way they should:
No storylines, redundant opening segments, inconsistencies with matches (who wins/loses), rivalries that don’t have and end or purpose, no emotion in their product, fans can’t express themselves with the security good squad confiscating their signs/throwing them out. Why the fans put up with these free speech fascist security thugs is beyond me. I might get back into wrestling via AEW because their product looks intriguing
Kind of ironic. Vince Russo's writing was so good that he killed his own career with it, because he went to work for companies that couldn't figure out his value.
@Damien Jones Where did you get that from? The dirtsheets?
@Damien Jones what like everything in the first two and a half years of the Attitude Era yeah? That was all Russo.
Vince Russo is so brilliant right? He had full control over wcw and tna and destroyed both promotions. This is obviously what happens when Russo has no McMahon to filter out his nonsense.
That's why he'll NEVER book another match for the rest of his life, THANK GOD! . Bro.
@KenDelloSandri7565 So, multiple issues with your point.
1) if TNA was "destroyed" why is it still on tv in 2023? Lol. Russo is no longer writing it that is why it's viewership sucks lol.
2) You must not remember the gabaege tv that WCW was putting on in late 1998 and 1999 for the reason WCW failed. I think the promotions weakest points were after Starcade 97.
3) If McMahon was the "filter" how come everything McMahon we've been told since has been horrible and even recently the things he's been in charge of creativity have sucked and the 1.5m viewers prove that.
Come on man lol
Russo got himself in trouble when he wrote himself into on-screen parts of the show. Lost a huge amount of credits instantly.
I loved what he did in WCW. The boost to the new wrestlers, exciting and edgy angles, the "powers that be" angle. It was great and would have paid off if he was given at least a year more.
But I still hate it that he wanted to be an onscreen part of the show. He really blew that part.
And I also don't like it that even today, he barely admits having done something wrong or is partly to blame. But that's almost a law in wrestling: always blame someone else and bend the truth in your advantage.
He didn't want to be on screen; he was talked into doing it. He did it reluctantly. You can choose to believe that if you wish; but those have been his words the whole time.
@Albert van den Berg , J-DUB - I don't care either way about Russo but J-DUB is correct, Russo was not in favor of himself being on-screen per Tony Shiavone podcast.
J-DUB yeah, that is what Russo has always said, but you got to admit, he was a hell of a character, drew a ton of heat, still does, 😂
Vince Russo save wrestling 1997. Smacks/What culture kill wrestling 2017.
Russo helped kill WCW though
also what are "smacks"
stupid idiot
WCW was going down hill before Vince even went to the company. WCW last good year was 1998. Smarks are people who take fake wrestling too seriously and think they know everything about it like whatculture and Dave Meltzer. Fake wrestling is just a TV Show. Why so mad, it's true.
your giving what culture too much credit,dude
Rashawn Edge pretty sure they are referred to as "marks", either way, you wrote "smacks" which is why he made the comment, I'd imagine. Then you proceeded to attempt to be a sarcastic prick, yet continued to not realize your fuck up. Kinda adorable.
Joseph Johnroe TRIGGERED
But I bet if Hogan ask you okay then what next what plans do you have for my character after Booker t wins the title what next for hulk Hogan and then you get this confused scared look in your eye and you wouldn't know what to say and I think that's why they had a problem we saw supposed Eric says about you but anytime someone wants to shut you down they just got to say and then what and what next
Bro...
Probably the only good thing that Russo did: making Booker T champion!
No Russo = No Attitude Era, and eventually no more WWF/WWE. So he did a few things right.
Drinking time bro! Take a drink of your favorite adult beverage bro for everytime bro you hear Russo bro say bro.....bro lol. Bro bro bro.
Bro Brah Bra
I'm sorry! Why the fuck would Hulk agree to that? He would've known he would come out looking ridiculous. I smell massive bullshit here. Hogan would never have went for this.
Wow, this dude thinks Kronik (with a backwards K) is better than the Shield and Bagwell and Douglas were any good? Bagwell sucked period. Never heard anyone say a positive word about Bagwell and Douglas is guilty by association. It's interesting for him and his sidekick to think that this PPV was any good. Bro, 2000 Bash at the Beach was quite possibly the worst PPV ever. Wrestling was extremely sloppy from start to finish and the wrong wrestlers pushed when not ready to be pushed. Not saying Bischoff was any better.
Bro
Bro
Bro
The problem with WWE today is the guys are too small it'd be different if that was competing against each other cruiserweight style but no they got all these little small guys he'll take it on big guys the size of triple h or bigger and acting like they got a chance like CM punk versus John Cena give me a break that is don't even look like CM punk wouldn't stand a chance it's too f****** small it's got to be believable you can't have these little average looking guys that gets these Giants
That PPV was shitty...Look at the wrestling in that PPV. It is for real terrible I swear I'm not just sayin that. I literally went back and watched the whole ppv. Crowds go crazy because they are seeing the stars they wanna see. They could shit the bed and the crowd will still go crazy. Most fans werent even reading the observer. Vince is right about it being memorable, but not in a good way. I'm pretty sure WCW got sued partially because of this too. Russo had some ok ideas but he wasnt a genius writer by any means. Nothing he wrote was clever or profound. Ill give him props for givin Booker T that much deserved push. Everything he wrote was very simple or extremely complicated and sloppy. It is so much craziness and sleaziness forreal. Russo was talented, but he wasnt the reason for the Attitude Era. Stone Cold and The Rock had everything to do with it. With them two you almost cant miss. Plus Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, and Mick Foley. Theres a lot more than that too.
I like Russo and think he did some great things in the wwf but he also came up with a lot of terrible ideas especially in wcw
2 mins in and already 45 "bros"
Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro,Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro, Bro
Just fun?? You have a meaningless, fun match during the weekly show. NOT A FRIGGIN PAY PER VIEW!!!! Bro
Listened to first 8 minutes and sheesh what a sensitive guy, probably shouldn't be in the spotlight with skin so thin.
Vinnie Ru killed wcw when David Arquette
Oh wow. This is kind of sad. Who is he trying to convince, here?
back in 2000 i wanted to have major fun with pamela paulshock and major gunns. If nitro had 3 hour bikini matches with those 2 wcw might have lasted a few extra years lol.
Vince Russ-bro. This is more annoying than Kevin Nash's spaghetti interview
But why did Booker t deserve to be the champion bro is it because he's black bro and because you're from New York and you won The virtue signal and look progressive bro you said you was ahead of the times so you could have been ahead of the times and virtue signaling too
Wrestling is the best now? Lol no.
Bro bro bro bro bro bro brobrobro bro bro b bbb br br br bro broo bro
Russo every thing: championship fight, some sort of disqualification or no contest, every match. The end. Seriously, I get protecting your guys…but if you can’t have a guy legit lose while still making him look strong, you don’t understand what you’re writing. WCW was awesome for a short time with the beginning if NWO…then it’s was pretty much the exact same story in every single match for over a year. It got SO boring.
how does it feel to ruin a good company that had such great talent love ur podcast but dude seriously
Microscopic buyrate. No one cared about WCW outside of the hardcores who watched 1994 WCW/WWF in 2000.
They let a lying wrestling mark book WCW in late 99 and 2000 because he told Turner executives that he was writing the rock'S promos and came up with the stone cold gimmick, the screwjob, go down the list.
Then he was put in charge and couldnt book. He booked the main event like it was the opening match attitude era guys. You know why? Thats all he ever booked! Vince took some of his ideas but still worked directly with the talent and booked the main event