Should I Dissociate From a False Christian at My Job? - Ask Pastor Tim
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2018
- Does the biblical doctrine of disassociation from false Christians apply to only the church? Or does that principle extend to other areas of life (i.e. work, school, family, etc.)?
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I'll Be Honest HI !! PASTOR TIM .GOOD MORNING FROM ME HERE .AND HAVE YR.BLESS NIGHT AND GOD BLESS .THANK YOU FOR SHARING YR.BIBLE TEACHING .AMEN.
I'll Be Honest "I think". It doesnt matter what we think but rather what the Word of God says. God called us to be wise.
As Paul says, "It is the KINDNESS or God that leads to repentance."
“There are more flies caught with honey than with vinegar. Better to go forth with a sweet smile upon your face and with gentleness written across your countenance than to be morose, stern, and uncivil; for if you are the latter , you belie with your face what you say with your tongue” - Charles Spurgeon.
Boy my last job was horrible. It was full of false Christians and lots of homosexuals, most even claimed to be Christian. You can tell by their heart if people are true Christians or not. I had really hateful mean coworkers who proclaimed to be a Christian. I had to get out of there! I was getting attacked daily!
If you are a weak Christian and cannot Hold your own..you probably best avoid someone.
That's very good topic to discuss!
We are so draw in such a dilemma not knowing what's right.
Good on you guys!
Glory To GOD!!!
Thank you for sharing!
Corrupt behavior will ruin a person good morals so if we must avoid them, do so and pray for them NOT to be a superficial Christian and come to KNOW Jesus. Look at the fruit of this coworker... You will KNOW the person by their fruit.
Exactly
There are 5 things that make up a true believer.
1)repentance
2)love
3)discipline
4) discernment
5) doctrine
And these 5 things will determine a Christians growth and you can’t have one without the other. You can’t have love without discernment, you can’t have doctrine without love and so forth.
I look for these things to find the true Christian. Just because you are loving towards other people doesn’t mean you are in the truth. “But it’s by our love they will know we belong to Jesus!”
Yes.....but Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses can be nice and loving too.....
But anyway, I work at a Christian place and meet these people who claim to be Christians but they gossip and talk about sexual things and I don’t see Jesus in them.
What are we? Are we members of a cult? Do we excommunicate now? Disfellowship? Jesus instructed us to love the lost with a deep and abiding compassion. Condemn the behaviour and try to save the lost regardless of whether they claim to be Christian or not. Educate them on true Christianity. Everyone has Grace until they die.
The easy path is to dissassociate. The hard part is to love and reach out and rehabilitate. I choose the hard way every time if it saves a soul.
Always be ready to give a reason for the hope that you have.
If Christians would actually deal with professing believers (of legit doctrinal churches) as the Bible says there would not be such a grey area of people. People who refused Matthew 18 would be evangelized as unbelievers. Those at work you deal with as unbelievers gently evangelizing.
If you warn a man and he does not repent his blood is on his own head
But if you say nothing, he will still be judged but his blood will be on our heads
You speak of the church as if it is a building. But in this situation, they are both brothers in Christ (supposedly). If you discover this "brother" is not who he says he is ( letting the Holy Spirit guide you) What does light have to do with darkness. After a few attempts at bringing them around to the truth and they don't come around, then I believe you disassociate. I am dealing with this situation with my very own daughter who is associating with the NAR.
May YHWH bless your family and save your daughter. Sending prayers to you and yours dear brother
Glory to God!
Hi pastor we as believers don't disassociate from anyone it's not our job to condemn anyone it is our job to show everyone the light including those that think they are saved if we dissassociate from people we are no different from the cults
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1 Corinthians 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 5:10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
Scripture is very clear...
We are not to hang around sinners and people of the world though! We can tell them the truth with love but you shouldn't be hanging around them
Fake Christian are everywhere.. they claimed they love God and born again but yet they committed adulterous in the church. I witnessed in my church. And my pastor didn’t step in and stopped her and him. She have ruined many families and many are hurting in the church. Thee families have left because of this and she still there?? I’m there for God, but how can a pastor let this happened again and again? Sometime I just want to go look for another church.
S. Priss sounds like you should.
Vernon Steinkamp thank you. I will.
because the pastor does not fear him and not a true shepherd. LEAVE THE SOCALLED CHURCH NOW!!!
Fake Christians dont deserve condemnation. Jesus loved the people who killed him. Pray for the person, be kind, and just leave it at that. Never turn your back on anyone
S. Priss - Fake Christians are everywhere. Trust me if you move to another Church.....behold! More fake Christians. Sometimes fake Christians are there to test our faith. Do we put trust in people or in the Lord? Look at the Lord’s life, he was surrounded by many fake believers, at first they said, Lord we would like to follow...and down the track they said “crucify him”.
The Lord was faithful to his mission until the end, fake Christians are distractions to get our eyes off the Lord and back onto the flesh or the world.
Especially reprobates believe they ARE OK with their salvation. They will NEVER see the need for Christ's righteousness, to be SAVED, if they are left to just see how you live while believing they are right the way they live. They must have light shined on their reprobation of they will remain there seeing no need to come toward the cross, believing they are already there.
Answer to the title of this video. YES
Refusing to shake the hand of a visiting mormon or jw sounds like a great way to ensure that they are still a mormon or jw when they leave, Timmy.
Or it is a great way to ensure they see the severity of their beliefs...and that how we do not believe in the same Lord and God. There is a way for the Christian to not shake their hand and yet it come across clearly in a loving way for the false teachers soul.
So you can hang around with fake Christians, and eat with them? No: this verse does not say "with such an one no not to eat at church picnics". It says not to eat:
1 Corinthians 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
It's specific things: failing a fruit inspection is not on the list.
we are the savour of death to those who are perishing (paraphrased from 2 corin. 2:16)
We don't need religions in our job, only we needs be careful about who working with consequences or who don't
You can always help show someone the Bible and let the Word doing the teaching.
1 Corinthians 5:1-13
My wife started a job 2 weeks ago.
She's in this situation sort of.
Her boss said he got baptized about 2 months or so. But his behavior says otherwise.
.she's very uncomfortable.
Since he made several comments on the way she dresses. .he basically said to show her body parts more.
Do you have any comment or advice on that?
Thank you
Being baptized doesn't make a Christian. Being born again makes one a Christian. People need to read the Bible to learn about God, Who He Is and what we need to be In Christ. No one is perfect after decades of knowing the Lord. It takes humility before the Lord and others.
He went down a sinner and came up a wet sinner, he needs to be born again.
@@janiedavis477 she quit that job 1 week after I commented
I find work the hardest place to act like a true Christian with a bunch of smut talking foreigners. I hope I don't end up in this "false" category, even though with a job that's on the go all the time and 3 15 minute breaks I cannot be called Christlike or unchristlike. There are things I can do better though but not sure how.
We are commanded to lovingly edify and if we give them the truth and they receive it not, we are commanded to turn away from them. Even so, not to even greet them if they claim another gospel as their reasoning for living the way they live. Otherwise, if we do greet them or welcome them we become partakers in their evil deeds. No where, does it mention, if there will be only one, or two, or just three left, then continue to tarry with them. This is not scriptural.
P.S. AN ERROR IN MY SPELLING ---- SHOULD READ ( WE ) IN MESSAGE. AS RE. THE J.W.'S AT OUR FRONT DOORS ----- I BELIEVE THAT WE MUST BE POLITE TO THEM ---- THUS TELLING THEM WHAT WE LITERALLY BELIEVE BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO OR SHAKE HANDS WITH THEM !! WE HAVE TO SHOW THE LOVE & GRACE TO THEM IN " CHRIST " INDWELLING BY THE " HOLY " SPIRIT WITHIN US. ------ YES , WE MUST BE POLITE & RESPECT THEM AS HUMAN BEINGS AS WE WOULD WISH TO BE TREATED ---- BUT WE STAND FIRM IN WHAT WE BELIEVE & THE " LORD " SPEAKS THROUGH US BY HIS SPIRIT !! JOHN IN U.K.
This is where you run into most. So-called Christians at work. At church, anyone can fake it for an hour. But at work, I just try and remain a friend & answer questions to him. The key is to make him want to be with us.
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And you are absolutely right it doesn't take very long probably in less than a day you can tell who a real Christian is. We are always the ones who stick out because we're doing what the Bible says. And the female Christian you can find out even faster because of the covering on her head.
Its Gods job to judge. Its our job to love. Jesus said we will be judged as we judged others.
As you've pointed out, "as we judged others", which implies that we are to make judgments, just not unrighteous judgments. Here is a video that deals with the question, "Should We Judge?" ruclips.net/video/_LFOS_tlidU/видео.html
I'll Be Honest ok thank you.
I don't believe the deciding factor of wether to obey God's Word and abide in Godly wisdom should be the determination of how many people it will effect, or how many true christians will remain. Because when the Lord Jesus returns, He is not going to look at the MANY that say Lord, Lord, He will STILL say to them, depart from me, I NEVER knew you. Maybe approaching them in a biblical way, and explaining to them they cannot continue in their sin, that it's very possible they are headed for hell if they are comfortable in their sin, this may turn them towards Christ's righteousness and the false converts may be saved if the true christians stop worrying about who, how many, and how it will effect them as well to do what we are commanded to.
Got Acts 2:38? Don’t leave earth with out it...
We ARE the church. It's not an alternate universe.
I think he misunderstood the question and Jesus's answer in the Bible.
And by the way if it's not true Biblical Christianity then it's not Christianity.
Define Christian.
You hang around with false Christians you’ll get leavened.
I hear more of man's opinion than the True Word of God. Be careful about what he teaches.