How Far Can a Person Go As a False Convert? - Ask Pastor Tim
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- False conversion is a major, and sobering, theme in the Bible. How much of a true Christian can a person seem to look like, and in the end turn out to be deceived?
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I recognize somethings wrong; please pray for me. I am falling into religion and its so hard. I desire a genuine relationship with Christ; please pray for me
How are you now?
Same. I have came to Jesus with repentance and I feel completely rejected
Are u trying to gain a FEELING of Christ .IF SO THAT COMES ONCE YOUR BORN AGAIN.
@@shashakeeleh5468 you seem very confused, a born again person does not lose their salvation
@@shashakeeleh5468 Jesus Himself said He will not lose one of those the Father gave Him. Do you believe this? Do you understand that Christ Jesus meant it when He said whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but has passed from death to life?
I have been battling about temporary conversion since listening to Lloyd-Jones and never truly understood the sealing of the Spirit. Hearing pastor Tim explain Hebrew 6 really shined a light of my walk with Christ and why I truly lacked that joy of the Holy Spirit and sanctification. Oh Lord have mercy on me sinner that I may be saved. Please pray for me. Amen
You shouldn't be looking for an emotional High to indicate whether you're saved or not. How does your being react when you're close to God and when you're not?
I prayed brother I hope it helps your walk amen 🙏
Seek Him with all your heart. Dont draw back
Salvation is a free gift not of works . It’s a gift once received not based on what good you do or will do and it’s not based on not doing bad deeds either. Can’t mix law and grace
We need more preaching like this in the churches. Too many ear ticklers out there.
INDEED !!! INDEED!!! INDEED!!!
I'd take Paul Washer over this "preacher' he belongs in Kindergarten.
One good thing about him a d Paul Washer is that they don't tickle ears! Though I disagree on some issues
The bare bones of the Christian faith is whom are you fundamentally trusting in the most... "themselves" (own abilities) or "in Christ alone"(what HE has done at the cross). Poor, sick, broken sinners know they need a saviour and so they cling to Christ because they know He is the means of salvation. They are greatly humbled people by the Holy Spirit's work in our lives. They love their Father from the inside out.
The entire face of Evangelical Church is filled with the same argument, whether people are SAVED or not. It shows how PAUPER the Church really is and is evidence of the NEED to Salvation.
It’s is if I wrote that letter, yet I’m guilty of other sins on top of the ones mentioned… I feel sick hearing this message, I feel like I’m on death row. A hopelessness consumes me as I write this…I agree with Tim 100%, church won’t fix this, my pastor can’t fix this, only crying endlessly to the Lord to forgive me and open my blind eyes to my ignorance. My short comings, no matter how little or great are separating me from Christ and I as for prayer from any who read this. I must begin the process of selling the things I own that are an idol, a distraction and put Gods word and commands first. I can’t thank Tim enough for his messages and videos. They hurt to listen to at first, but it leads to answers that heal. God bless this ministry and pastor Tim.
I understand your pain. Will remember you in prayer. However long it takes. May Jesus help us. Going to a group prayer soon. Will talk about your petition and raise your name up in group prayer.
May Jesus help us. He is our only hope.
Do you not realize that your contrition is a sign of godliness?
Psalm 51:17
The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit;
a broken and contrite heart, O God, you will not despise.
Romans 8:1 - 2
So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus. 2 And because you belong to Him, the power of the life-giving Spirit has freed you from the power of sin that leads to death.
@@taylor-bh8re But Esau sought his birthright with tears.. so what does my broken spirit do for me? I cant cry and be broken all i want. I came to God and chose to walk away from sanctification and live a sinful lifestyle.. arent i now unable to come back to Him? Isn't that what the text says..?
So, how'd go?
@@taylor-bh8re That should be obvious but all this Disjointed contradictory BULLSHIT the Evangelical Church keeps putting out is precisely why the Catholics forbade the common people from reading stuff. This guy sounds like a Kindergarten teacher speaking to retarded children. Really abysmal. And no I don't agree with Catholicism, but this is why.
I just wanted to help anyone out there who still had unanswered questions. If you have any worry or fear that you are the one who can’t come to Jesus, that means you still can. If someone is truly done and to hard of heart to come back to repentance then they wouldn’t want to anyways because it is the Holy Spirit that leads you to conviction, and draws you to the Jesus. If the Holy Spirit was gone from you or done with you then you wouldn’t be seeking Jesus out and wanting to be obedient to him. But regardless the answer remains the same regardless of the viewpoint. PRAY TO JESUS. Pray that he give you conviction, that he helps root out sin in your life, leads you to repentance, an helps you be obedient to him in life. Pray about everything to him. And go on and sin no more.
FisherOfMen:But can anyone completely not sin?Does that suggest perfection which is unattainable in the flesh even for the most devout Christian?
@@Crezelltree4261 to be completely sinless? I don’t think that’s possible because it I’m 1st John it says if we say we are without sin we are liars. And there are always blind spots in our lives that we can’t see that we need to ask the lord to reveal to us. But sinning intentionally we can stop once we are Christians
That very question is my life story right there! I was instantly soaked in the charismatic teaching and thought I had to reach some "holiness" to obtain something. It's so decieving!
Hope you are out of charismatic
I could've written that letter. I'm damned. Thank you Pastor Tim for clarifying for me. I don't mean this sarcastically, but sincerely. I haved believed I am saved for decades, but now I know I convinced myself I was. I watched your new vids on how to know if you are saved and you made the Bible so clear. My understanding was completely flipped around and the light went on.
Only now I see I was just fooling myself. Thank you for saving me from from false hope.
That was really painful to read.
Check this out before you believe any random person on the internet, think for yourself as well and PRAY:
ruclips.net/video/-N7AKEyi9SQ/видео.html
You still hope.
I'm damned as well. After listening to Pastor Tim's videos and reflecting on my actions, my heart, and my spirit, I've come to realize I'm not genuinely saved. And according to Hebrews, I am beyond hope because I fell away from the impact of Christ in my early 20s. I "came back" to Christ because of a very bad mental health episode 3 years ago, and I've been severely double minded ever since. I am well aware I'm going to Hell, yet when I repent, it is for a fear of Hell and not because I feel bad for dishonoring God. I only have worldly repentance. It absolutely agonizing to live knowing that I'm heading to Hell. I have become entirely hopeless. 6 years ago I embraced becoming an Esau and now I'm paying for it with worldly tears.
@@cobleskillaggie Dear sister, you are not beyond repentance. You're still alive. And Jesus can cleanse from all unrighteousness. If you come to Him He will in no wise cast you out. Please go to Him. Don't listen to the devil who wants to keep you away from Jesus. I'll pray for you right now.
I didn’t believe I was a false convert until now. The lord tested me and I fell away. I have never been the same since. Now when I try to go to church I a have severe anxiety. I am generally plagued with extremely intense anxiety. I truly feel like God has rejected me now that I plea for his forgiveness. I am terrified for my soul
How are you now, friend? I'm going through the same thing
@@themcooke1477 please listen to Andrew Farley.... Oh yes, and you welcome.
We all fall into dry periods and into sin. During one of these periods, I had a dream that I was talking to a man who Jesus suddenly entered into. At that moment I instantly recognized it was the Lord. He was not pleased with me and began to give me what for. He then turned his back to me and started walking away. I followed him and kept saying "wait wait," but he just kept on walking. In despair I finally said "what can I do?" He stopped. Without looking back at me, he turned his head down and to the left and said "Come after me."
James 4:8 says that if we draw near to God, he will draw near to us. Jesus says in Matthew 16: 24 "If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
Jesus is going this way ------> ------> -------> Follow him. Go after him.
I knew a guy back in middle school who I referred to as the Jesus freak. Don't get me wrong, I liked the guy but at that time I was an unsaved rebel and this kid was on fire for the Lord! He was the epitome of what you'd think a Christian should look and act like. He had visible joy and delight in Jesus, so much so that I envied him and I wanted what he had. 10 years later when I had become a Christian, I remembered this guy and looked him up on Facebook. I was shocked when he told me he didn't believe in all that Jesus stuff anymore. I tried to convince him to give it another shot but he was completely satisfied in his rejection of Christ. He loved living in sin and was confident in his unbelief. This is an example of one who has "fallen away." One who "went out from us because they were never of us." He has no conviction of sin, no worry of hell and no fear of God. Therefore, I don't think you fell away. You fell into some sin or lukewarmness perhaps, but had you fallen away you wouldn't be at all bothered by it. You'd have no conviction of sin, no fear of God and no worry about salvation/damnation. Mat 24: 13 says "he who endures to the end shall be saved." The guy I told you about is no longer enduring. You on the other hand; "have sever anxiety" and " I'm terrified for my soul" and "truly feel like God has rejected me." Phil 2: 12 says; work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Seems to me that this is what you are doing.
When a Christian isn't living according to how God would have them live, they get chastened because God chastens the ones he loves (Heb 12: 6). So you, being convicted by the holy spirit are suffering. You must also take into account that the devil and his demons will feed all kinds of crap into the minds of Christians to make them feel unsaved even when they are saved. Therefore, we need to be reading the gospel and seeking Christ daily. Being confident of this very thing, that He who begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ. Phil 1: 6.
As Christians (ESPECIALLY as Christians) we will suffer in our flesh, but God is not going to allow us to have any kind of peace in our spirits until we ---------> go after him.
I felt like that but then I read the gospel in 1 Corinthians 15 and really understood the gospel for the first time. Faith in His blood will cleanse you of all sins and God has not rejected you
All these insecurities about how righteous you are actually come from the presence of God. It is impossible to have unrequited love for God, because God is actually trying to be a "pickup artist" to you and attract you back. If this were not so, you wouldn't really care if you sinned or not. So call on His love to forgive and power to sin no more.
Joh 6:44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.
Do you know what this means? All the sensations of unworthiness, the desperation to get right with God, that "I'm living in sin and I don't like it one bit!" all those emotions are generated in you by God Himself. The good news is that God is drawing everyone who has not made themselves deaf to His calls. Unfortunately, those who are in real danger are the ones who sin their way into oblivion, permanently mentally branding themselves as a sin lover. In the final judgement they'll only be sorry they got caught.
"PLEADING with the Lord if I wasn't genuine... because that book really rattled me..."
Comforts me because I am going through that JUST NOW, feeling like I may be not wholly in. PLEASE pray for me to BE REAL AND GENUINE, that the LORD will work in me to saved me TO THE ABSOLUTE UTTERMOST! I still feel I am holding the smallest things back, although I keep putting them into Christ's hands, but is this an excuse?
Old classic wildmanchris200 when you truly believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as the Son of God and the only Savior who can save sinner from sin, Acts 16:31 says, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ andHe will save you. He will slowly change you and has a hold on your life.
Please pray for me also, I struggle with this and I plead with Jesus to save my soul and to calm my heart.
I highly recommend the book, "Can Christianity Cure Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder?" For any believer who struggles with OCD constantly seeking assurance of salvation. It's helped me a lot. The book is by Ian Osborn.
Thank you so much I constantly question it 24/7
Me too I worry as well that the only reason I pray so much is actually because I have ocd and not because it’s genuine. And what would I be like if I didn’t have ocd would I even pray etc
@@mattyboi8338 check your math: there are none who are righteous, none who have understanding and there are none who seek after God. There are none righteous, no not one... If you are fervently seeking the Lord in prayer, it is only by the power of God, because there are none who seek after God In their own strength. No human does that on their own, so it really can only mean one thing. Also, John MacArthur would say, if you are genuinely bothered by this question in your mind, that's a very very good sign that you are in fact numbered among the elect, because no one who is reprobate has these concerns. If you had a reprobate mind, you would not worry one bit.
@@taylor-bh8re Do you know that Romans 3 is NOT the only chapter in the Bible?? And do you realize that Paul is directly quoting from specific psalms (eg Psalms 14 & 36) in the infamous passages you are citing? Psalms which are referring to "the WICKED", "the WORKERS of INIQUITY" and "the FOOL"!
Obviously there were always Jewish people who feared God! And righteous people too.
And NEVER ONCE is a regenerate Christian in the New Testament described as "unrighteous" 🤦🏻♀️.
Of course there are righteous people today i.e regenerate Christians (the only kind: John 1:12-13). The first epistle of John was written to make it clear to people inundated with false teachers (as we are today) that there IS a test to make sure one is saved. And he says, in particular:
"Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous" (1 John 3:7).
Why aren't you quoting that verse?? You would be if you hadn't been brainwashed by Calvinist preachers who constantly quote Romans 3 for the sole purpose of validating their theology of man.
You need to approach Scripture yourself instead of being a passive consumer of Calvinist theology: PRAY, READ, STUDY (relying on the HOLY SPIRIT to teach and guide you, as Jesus commands in John 14:26 & 16:13) and THINK.
Even before the Cross, the Resurrection and the full canon of Scripture, there were righteous and blameless people. All through the Psalms, the "righteous" and "wicked/ungodly" are differentiated and you don't need to read far: Psalm 1 (KJV) commends the "RIGHTEOUS"!!!
Here are a couple more out of many Bible verses referencing the Godly, devout, perfect, upright and RIGHTEOUS:
"And they (Zacharias and Elizabeth) were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless" (Luke 1:6)
"There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil" (Job 1:1).
I’ll answer this for you without even watching. The answer is: Forever. And I mean Forever. Even in Hell some people probably think that someday they will get out or that there has been some sort of mistake. All of us should be praying every day that God would reveal any deception and that He will place is on the narrow path. Bless.
So true
Technically not. Once you are wiped out of the gene pool by the lake of fire, you won't have a working brain to think it's saved or not, but leading up to the day the wicked weep and gnash their teeth and melt away outside the city of Heaven, there will be regret on that day, though perhaps from more of a material loss and ultimately their end.
this didnt answer the question.
@@TimpBizkit Nowhere it says people lose their conscience while being punished plus it would defeat the purpose NOT to remember why they're there. You must be smoking something.
Thank you so much for making this video it helped me so much, it helped me realize that i need Jesus more than i ever thought i did. It helped me realize that i could never be saved by my flesh, This has been such a blessing.
I worry all the time tgat I am a false convert :(
The Lord has done so much in my family! However I also have 2 lost daughter's. My heart breaks breaks breaks. I'm broken. I'm such a wretch. I see other people with so much joy, and i feel so heavy.
I gossip and I'm lazy and bitter. God please save me, I beg. I've been an embarrassment to my husband.
I want to please God.
Louisa Capell
I struggle with laziness and I struggled with gossip and bitterness. Mine was rooted in fear and pride. He is breaking me of it but I still have much work to dig out the roots. We are all reaching out discovering what is more important. God vs everything else. Fasting and praying has started to kill the sin in my life. The fact that you are concerned ( not fearful) is a sign God is not done with you. Keep what is Christ like in your life and ask God to kill the rest. Being grateful for everything little thing helps me also. Thank you for waking me up, thank you you created more than one color for my eyes to behold, thank you that my vehicle started today. Thank you the guy cut me off in traffic... bless him and keep me from pride of offense. You will sin as long as you are in this flesh but you shouldn’t keep sinning the same sins and never find deliverance. Plan your day in a reasonable way and build to it. Speak love and meditate on scripture, fast and you will look up months from now and I pray you will see a delivered person on fire for Christ. Run well my sister ❤️
@@toccotaford8408 thank you for your kind words.
Test and tribulations, are just tests of faith, after losing so much and still wanting to please God is an awesome thing, wanting to be a good wife is a good thing, you are an imperfect human and we all sin, the best thing that you can do is believe that God Loves you and hes working everything for good to those who love him, and i cant see how you dont love someone you want to please, God bless
If I say you deserve all the misery you are facing and it is a great mercy God did not send you to hell right now, what would your answer be?
@@kb27787 I would agree that I deserve death and hell. I would say I deserve all the misery. But at the same time I don't even deserve the luxury of wallowing in this misery, because God is so great and how dare I complain.
My afflictions truly are light compared to what i deserve.
Now, even in typing this I know it's self serving. I'm looking for reassurance and placation. How dare I come before a righteous God and ask for forgiveness! The arrogance!
I KNOW he can save, I know it. 300%
Yet why do I continually sin? Is it the nature of Man? Then why does scripture say be ye holy as I am holy?
If I am saved, Why do I sin? I hate myself for it.
At the grocery store an item didn't ring up right and i thought oh yay I can steal and no one will know.
At home I have yelled and screamed at my children in anger, all the time I'm doing it!
I'm worried I'm a vessel created for wrath.
I would be willing to listen or to pray for anyone who feels left out or condemned or struggling with this or just in general I feel like this too sometimes but It’s important to remember what Christ did and not trust our Emotions the heart is evil remember that trust the Holy Spirit and he will speak God will move we can help support each other in this walk amen 🙏
Thank you!! I’m so blessed to find your channel
I really appreciated this. Thanks for uploading
I can't be the only one who read the title and came for self-examination
I am revisiting this video not to watch it again but because the thought of a Christian seeing this video and believing that A: they were never 'good' enough to be saved in the first place or B: that God has simply given up on them has actually caused me to lose sleep. Please read Luke: Chapter 15 verses 11-32. Read the parable of the Prodigal Son and consider who pastor Tim might represent in that parable. Only Jesus is good. None of us are 'good enough'. That is not to say that we should not strive to be Christ-like or that we should make a mockery of His saving Grace. God bless everyone.
The truth is none of us ARE good period. That's why Jesus became our substitute to pay for our wages (death) and God doesn't give up on us. We make the choice to trust Him or to trust in ourselves.
As like the elder son?
Okay, I've gotten absolutely sick and tired of all this type of preaching. I reject this message by Mr. Conway, IN THE CONTEXT IN WHICH HE'S PREACHING IT. The devil plays on confusion like nobody else. At least 1 poster below has it correct, & I paraphrase, "The fact that you're so concerned about salvation & repentance, etc. means that you are being reached & being called to repent". I'm not sure this man who wrote the letter is a false convert, but sounds like one who's examining himself and finding all sorts of sin. (Repent!) We're commanded to do this! (Repent!) Not only that, but the writer sounds exhausted. Does that mean we can't lose salvation? Of course we can lose salvation, Thessalonians is plain about that; but why would a person be called back and convicted if no other chance is possible? Repent!!!!! The Prodigal Son is very representative of this. The devil doesn't want us to go back, so, confusion is heaped upon us. Look, I'm struggling with the same thing as all below and I'm going back; I don't care what Conway's preaching espouses. ALL of us can pick one thing that Jesus said to do and start doing it. I'm starting again and just reading "the words in red", what Jesus said to do and try to do as much of it as I can, repenting along the way. If I were a man who wanted to start a ministry, try one that nobody seems to be touching, related to this very video. Call it, "Those Who Return". Repentance & Salvation go together, but WE WILL NEVER BE PERFECT! If we stay in the Calvinistic vein, then, Washer does have the right answer to this whole question: ruclips.net/video/UzMId-VgdAM/видео.html
@@shashakeeleh5468 Thanks shashakeeleh, I was going to write something similar and post the same RUclips URL. I have followed pastor Tim for some time, albeit loosely compared to some others, and I am truly shocked at the lack of empathy and the biblical weakness of this message. Sure he is quoting some verses, and not everything he says is wrong, but Paul Washer (your link) has it much more balanced and biblical than Mr. Conway here.
I am not calvinist by the way although I love and respect my calvinist brethren - indeed I consider them my brethrens in faith even though I don't agree 100% with the calvinist TULIP (TULIP = the 5 pillars of calvinism). Here it seems pastor Tim is forcing calvinism onto the Bible. That is, he seems to hold to TULIP more than to the Bible, that is, putting it above the word of God, then interpret the Bible according to TULIP. And he does that in such an insensitive way to the person writing the letter in the first place, ouch! I feel bad for the writer, and I would liken him to the man beating his chest and looking down, asking for forgiveness as a sinner in the parable of Jesus (compared to the pharisee bragging that he's not like the man beating his chest).
@@MrTHEMADGUY I think the pastor is trying to preach on a problem (wheat & tares) that has existed since Christianity began. He might have been successful at it, had he not gone on for so long and not repeatedly wandered from one thought to another. I'm at the point, as are others, I suspect, that when I see a video of his and others running an hour or more, I no longer watch them. You can literally see Conway getting tired and his concentration continuing to fail; his insensitivity might have been due to anger at himself for inability to find the right words to express himself rightly, I don't know. Hearing, as well as preaching The Word can take time and energy to process and "mental wanderings" are too much, even for the dedicated. To All Pastors: 45 minutes, tops, please! It's not that we don't like you, we get tired and disheartened past a certain point; simply put, the message can backfire on everyone. With regard to the letter, I have to consider whether or not the devil would have fought against such a letter and any person attempting such examination; think King David. I get Pastor Conway's point and have now finished expressing mine.
This is truly terrifying. I don’t think I’m going to sleep tonight. I’m going to repent tonight.
Did you get saved?
Trust in Christ. Whoever believes is not condemned. Don’t listen to this teaching if it’s scaring you this bad. Call upon the name of the Lord and rest in His finished work.
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This is convicting. It is good to have convictions but its not good to stay in convictions. This should lead us to run to Christ all the more. That is what I told my wife.
thanks brother Tim!!! these words are soooo TRUE!!! I love these words
Can you guys pray for me I struggle with this. I preach to people all the time and Love Jesus but feel like I still haven’t been fully sanctified. Please need prayers. I want to be Genuine.
Full sanctification is called glorification, and that takes place either at death or the second coming. Hope that helps!
God bless Tim Conway for his faithful preaching to the saints. Please pray for me Christians. I have been attacked by evildoers in my neighborhood for more than a year. I have many, many needs and weaknesses. Fighting is hard. I'm grateful for God's salvation and love. Thank you for praying.
Once you finally believe in Christ in your heart and let go of the desires in this life your eyes and heart shall be opened and you’ll see you’re truly saved and have a new heart to do good and if you ask God for your eyes to be opened which I’ve prayed to god, you’ll see most people are on the broad road to destruction which makes sense when Jesus said many are on it
For God has not called us for impurity, but in holiness. Therefore whoever disregards this, disregards not man but God,who gives the Holy Spirit to you. 1Thess5:7-8 For you were called to freedom,brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh..." Gal4:13
My obsessive tendencies make it extremely hard to stop a thought that reels and reels over and over. My only hope is Christ.
Wonderful message....Blessings!!! 🙌 📖 💕
I think my answer to that question would have been similar...I understood Pastor Tim’s answer. I would offer that unless I’m hearing incorrectly, I can listen again...I’ve not heard Hebrews 6 explained that way...nor preached that way, historically or currently. I think Hebrews 6:1-6 read together gives us a better context of verse 4. Nonetheless it is a warning indeed...but if nothing else I’ll relook it. Thx for your ministry brothers.
This is really helpful. Thank you.
To the person who wrote the letter. The fact that you recognise your sin and that you wrote your letter means that you are NOT lost. Do not be deceived by those who position themselves as spiritually superior. None are perfect but Jesus. Pastor Tim is someone I respect but if he has caused you to lose hope then he has sinned gravely. Talk to Jesus.
he is teaching falsehood my brother, he even said their comes a point that we become like Essau and won't find repentance, he does not believe in Faith alone he may say it but then he back loads the gospel with works as evidence of salvation, he is being a pharisee and a judge on who is saved, he preaches a heretical and DAMNABLE false gospel.
be blessed
living water so enlighten us how would you answer this person who wrote the letter since you disagree with this man?👍😊
@@reformedtubers1028 bump.
@@livingwater7580 3 months later nothing to say come on now
@@livingwater7580 it sucks but it is possible to permanently mentally brand yourself as a sin lover. I cannot detect when someone has reached that point so I would encourage instructing someone to repent no matter what. If it's as fruitless as calling Satan to repentance, then so be it. At least you have not allowed a potential convert's faithfulness and motivation to peter out.
The Bible does not teach that people will "burn for all eternity" when cast into the lake of fire, but it WILL wipe the sinner's genes off the planet, so it is still best avoided. The lake of fire will burn all over the earth and from the ashes of the fire, Christ will rebuild Earth afresh.
THIS IS THE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST 2JOHN 9-11.
GOD bless you and thank you very much!
What an eye-opening Bible study...wow. Thank you, Pastor Tim
This is some WISE and IMPORTANT, and INSIGHTFUL preaching❤❤❤❤😮😊
Good teaching. Serve Christ, everyone.
Matthew 24:42-44
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
I have the same problem. Ever since I was 11 I have been dealing with whether I am a true or false convert. I struggle with lust, watching bad movies, but I want to have a relationship with Christ. I don’t know if I have the Holy Spirit at all and I hate my sin, but I never had true assurance. I haven’t prayed in over a month, and I don’t know what to do. Please pray for me.
I prayed for you. I have had very similar struggles recently and I just wanted you to know someone is praying for you.
The Lord saved me on June 4th 2023. This day I remember clearly, since, as the standard is for most conversion. It has nothing to do with me whatsoever. There was a huge change. My walk began. I couldn't be more sure, as prayers were answered, the Bible came alive, conviction and connection to the Holy Spirit, progressive Sanctification, love for God, love of people, etc. but, and im not sure exactly how when, as school started, i didnt guard my heart, began the slow poisoning of loving tbe world again, my pride ( which i was warned by God ) also became a growing danger that began affecting my obedience to the Holy Spirit, his leadings and guidences. I started to grieving him, and slowly, my walk began to fall. A very bumpy, on and off between various true repentances and sins, i finally fell to a point where it took a week of hardening before i made it back to God, to the which a week or restoration took place, then more hardening, then leading to the wilderness. Which is where my fall began. All my sins and love of the world begun to eat at everything i had. God's anioting left me, his presence was no longer in constant manifest. I was blindfolded. It wasnt until months later ( during this year ) that i realized just a bit what happened. I begun to wander aimlessly. All my Sanctification began to unfold. Demonic oppression and possession begun to occur. Things that i hadn't remembered since my saving begun to pop in my mind again. Everything, down to my faith in God began to fase slowly, as i cowardly to my own harm accepted those lies of the enemy.
February of this year came. I sat at my desk, stressed from trying to get back to God. Eventually I thought back on all i took for granted, not believing in God during the wilderness, not knowing what was going on ( at that time I was already blinded by my lost of first love, and still at this point i didn't know that i had lost my first love ) I cried. My heart repented from all that i had done. I regeted it all. The next day ( Sunday ) God was there with open arms, having forgave all that i'd done. He offer restoration, to the which demons very quickly pushed away before i could hold it. Mind, this was a trend since the beginning of the wilderness and the demobic oppression, hindering me from recevincg or knowing anything good that would benefit me towards Godly stuff, and any message or blessing or word would i be quickly closed away from. However, i could also blame my self-righteousness for trying to desperately recieve my restoration. It didn't work. But the Lord had forgiven me. So that was the next thing i had to struggle to believe. Forgiveness. A couple of weak faith attempts followed the rest of February and march. A constant struggle. Too many voice, probably countless lies. I kept wandering. Throughout all this though, the most prominent, well known messages ive got from God: I still love you. Which too has a whole story. He still loves me. I dont want to die this way. Away from God. But i still have a love in my heart for sin. If it wasn't there ( this is just my reasoning) maybe i coudl return to a point of restoration? But this could eb ungreatful for the forgiveness or other events i have not described. Recently, ive seen multiple videos, and heard my dad talking about a false conversion. I tried not to believe, but now i cant let the demons fool me. This God's work, not my mine own. Could i be a false covert, if my salvation was not of myself ? If it was God that drawed me to the alter, and took my out of my sin? Im scared for all these comments. Could it really be?
I would also like to add along the way i believe the Lord assured me multiple times, and anioted me one day during a worship session ( im not sure if it was a baptism of the Holy Spirit, since i dont fully understand what that is, but i guess yoy could call it one, but my life took a second massive change. ) Also i've recived multiple leadings, and baptisms of the spirit, brekaing of chains, freedom from sin, and even able to rebuke spirits, but i know that even those who do those things could not know God. Ive been and experienced his presence, intense hunger and thristing for God, and even the Lord in many messages he has sent for me assured that im just a backslider, not a false covert. Could a backslider become a false convert? Could the enemy be trying to scare me through true preachers and pastors who intended this for someone else? I shouldve went to the Lord about this first, i think i prayed about it too.
Also i do have a fear in my heart from fully turning away.
I guess you could say that at first i wasnt self righteous, but it soon snuck back in to replace my love for God
When pastor was talking about the true convert, that sounds a lot like the beginning of my salvation, but now it seems iwas influenced
Idk if there is hope for me. I’ve repented, I’ve given up sins I use to love to do an I no longer want them. I’ve slipped but I haven’t stayed in them. But I have no love in my heart. I feel so far from
Christ. I fear him tho am I fear falling away because I know this is the truth. I’ve prayed a lot for him to soften my heart an hot
Save me an help me love him. But I fear I’ve grown cold. I still hate my sin I still want to obey his word but I feel so far from him. Please pray for me
Spend time in His word and talk to His people, and keep praying to Him. He loved you and gave himself up for you! If there's one thing I'm learning, it's that His love is stronger than mine will ever be. And that makes it grow a little bit more, a little bit more. Hold on!!!!
1 Peter 1:13 - "So prepare your minds for action and exercise self-control. Put all your hope in the gracious salvation that will come to you when Jesus Christ is revealed to the world."
Don't ever let our enemy convince you that your Savior is your enemy.
Let's all take very seriously the command to build each other up as we see the Day approaching. Christ means for us to stand together as the treasure _very_ hard-fought for by the family at large to win for Him -- a people without blemish or defect for the praise of His Glory. Christ is all and is in all. We have no other hope, and we lack nothing in Him.
We all struggle don’t we? Such a faith battle. How we are suppose to be eternity conscious and not conform to the world and be crucified with Christ but we are in the world. Oh how easy to be enticed by worldly things and the devil can convince us it’s ok to participate in certain things. We have to keep enduring and not be cowards and stand firm. It’s such a process to let go of things. Worldly music and lust of my eyes is still a struggle for me. I’m finally letting go of the rock music which is so seductive and pleasant sound. And being careful where I go and what I look at as a single Christian male. Great message.
If you doubt your salvation, return to the start, which is, repentance and faith and trust in Christ alone. Get your eyes off of works and on Christ. He alone is the answer, yes even for those doubts of whether or not you are genuine. Give it to Christ, cast all your care upon Him for HE cares for YOU (1Pet. 5:6). Of course, if you espouse Calvinism, you’ll probably have trouble taking this passage at face value. However, Calvinism is just simply wrong. The fact is, a Calvinist is forced to look for experiences to verify if they are the loved by God or not, they cannot take passages like 1Pet. 5:6 at face value KNOWING that Christ cares and loves you, having died for the whole world. I reject Limited Atonement! It is not found in scripture! I can read scripture therefore and know with certainty that my name is among the ones to whom Christ has died, loves and cares for because I am among the WHOLE world. My faith therefore can simply be in the Words of Christ and not some experience by which I seek to know if I’ve been chosen. I love my Calvinist brothers but I pity them on this point.
Plus God never said to worry about all those things He was just letting us know He has chosen people. Just like praying, pray to God even if He knows all your request before hand pray because God tells you to pray come to God cause He wants you to come and He deserves our obedience to Him
hi, Im in a self-made mess since a year, please, from the bottom of my heart, pray for my salvation.
I did very evil things and then when God was gracious and convicted me, I confessed everything but after the confession things got worse with evil thoughts and the like, I guess God let it happen to test me even though it was obviously not from him.
and I didnt stood the test…
I became cold, even though I still want to go back to him and regrett all Ive done, everything has become cold, my love, thankfulness and fear of God and conviction sank to a minimum.
PLEASE, if possible pray for me !
May God have mercy on me and change my heart again !
Hello good morning! a while ago I was traumatized by that passage. I met the Lord when I was 16 years old, I asked the Lord that no matter how far it is that he never lets go of my hand, I step back ten years and that passage traumatized me and I talked about it with a brother un Christ, he told me that it speaks of a repentance of zero-based, when one repents again, one stays at the same spiritual level. Can someone tell me what you think?
Is there hope after you have already fallen and realized you weren't born again and now you have a hardened your heart towards God?
Yes there is hope. Whatever sort of coldness you have, it clearly has not driven you to a point to renounce the Lord and go on willfully in sin, or else you would not be here making this comment. What must you do? Cease doing... and trust that Christ has DONE it all, that the work on the Cross is finished. Run to Him - illbehonest.com/how-do-i-run-to-christ-tim-conway
Well I dont believe that just because I'm asking means that I haven't gone too far. I'm just asking to confirm what had happened to me. I really don't care about anything anymore. I was just asking. Thank you for your reply
@@jessicalazo8439 "I'm asking means that I haven't gone too far. I'm just asking to confirm what had happened to me." -- Rather than focus on what happened in the past, and trying to figure that out, you should consider what Christ has done, and believe Him and follow him. What if you viewed what happened in the past as making you hopeless, would you then give up? Satan would love for that to be the case. So rather than look at the past, look at the Cross and Christ's death and go on from this day forward believing Him. Just as happened at the end of John 6... Jesus said to them, "Do you want to go away as well?" and Peter replied that "No, you have the words of eternal life!" He realized there was no where else to go! If you recognize that, than follow Christ.
Well yeah but my love for God and the church has grown cold. Also for my family. Doesn't Matthew 24 warn about that? It's a prophecy and if it already happened to someone then its irreversible isnt it?
@@jessicalazo8439 Warnings like that should drive you to Christ... not to being overly introspective. You will not find hope looking inwardly. Please view this: ruclips.net/video/WIlBq8MRykU/видео.html
This is me, I never repented of all my sin, I cannot find repentence no longer. Do NOT Apostatize for anything. I AM DAMNED NOW. Edit: Thank you for replying I am in a better state than I was when I made these comments. Jesus is Lord and his precious blood covers a multitude of sin including mine. Praise be to God forever amen.
Well you watching this may be a good start. True.. Pastor Tim cant save you. Believe, repent, seek The Lord.Seek The Lord or you will be seeking something else. You will go on thinking like this and much worse. Separate yrself from non believers, look for a church or a group of believers to read/study God's Word. I pray ube sincere going to Jesus and gives u mercy. Be a believer in Jesus Christ. The Bible be the authority of your faith...not you. May you find/seek what Jesus has for you, and that you don't find what this world has coming to it. Glory be to God The Father and Jesus Christ His only begotten Son upon high forever and ever.
You are not damned. As long as there is breath in your body you can repent. Thank Jesus that those who are His can never be lost. Thank Him that He died for all who believe in Him. Turn away from your sins and turn to Jesus
Here is the gospel, watch it to the end :-) it's the best explanation I've seen a preacher do. Is absolutely astounding what just hearing the clear gospel can you do.
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Christ once said to repent and return to your first love. Don’t stop seeking Him. We must endure till the end.
How are you now
Giving Full Devotion to God in spirt in truth with all your hert.His Holy spirit feeds our souls in Jesus mighty name Amen 😍
This reminds me of the movie The Lord of the rings, when there's a flashback of the two guys standing at the edge of the chasm in mountain dew, about to throw the ring into the fire and the guy standing next to him says "what are you waiting for? Throw it in! Throw it in the fire!"and the other guy turns and gives this menacing grin and says "no..." I've pictured that so many times and thought to myself, "that is not going to be me. I'm throwing myself in, at His mercy."
That was Mountain DEW CAMACHO. THe PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. of A....because it's what plants crave.
@@einarabelc5 I loved that movie Idiocracy
Amen! Even when I fall short of the glory of god or willfully sin(spoiler god showed me I was wrong to do that, trust me willful sinning is dead to me, I turn from that) every time any of that happens I turn to god and Jesus. I thank god everyday I get up and thank him for always correcting me. I know I’m saved because every time something wrong happens I turn to him! I am at the lukewarm and god is showing me time to repent, and get back on track! I am a new Christian saved this Easter and god will not leave me or forsake him. I been doing it wrong but god is so faithful and loves me he corrects me and I have been shown that I need to get my act together. He is warning me from this and other videos. God revealed to me this and I am doing it right, chasing my lord and savior!!
many months I did not ask the right questions to the friend I've long suspected was a false convert. Why? its easier to not confront and believe a fantasy about that friend being a brother: questions. 1. testimony of a season where drastic changes. 2. love of Jesus and Scriptures more than anything else: has peace, joy and rivers of life from fearing God instead of worldly anxiety, fear and worldly sorrows.. 3. Fruit in keeping with repentance: loves repentance, loves holiness, actually does change, all of the fruit of the Holy Spirit dominate character. Definition of grace is unto holiness and not an excuse to keep sinning and being driven by worldly anxiety, fears of other people's affections, and sorrowful of self pity, self regret, self loathing, self grieving the loss of worldly relationships, things, position. Want to love your friend? gently share the Truth instead of soft fake-love pretending they are on a journey that shows no sign of true repentance. Grace makes no sense without understanding it requires real repentance which comes from showing the Laws of God. Not works but fruit: Titus 2:11 grace is for godliness and not excuses to keep sinning
According to this guy no one is really saved 100% for sure. He makes believers doubt their feelings and experiences.
You need to listen again. He is saying they were never saved to begin with. He says “genuine salvation can’t be lost.” If you are truly saved you can never lose your salvation.
Are we meant to trust in our feelings and experiences?
Yes it is a grave sin to cause a believer to lose hope. It is also a sin to believe that we are spiritually superior to other Christians. There is pride in this video.
Mr_m777 you should read romans 2:3
The Bible clearly teaches that a person has been saved, is being saved (process) and finally will be saved. He who endures to the end WILL be saved. These teachers arestill influenced by Calvinistic doctrine. How sad !!
I think I’m a person described in Hebrews 6:4-6. I don’t think there’s any hope for me.
I’m scared as well. You know I cry and I feel something in my heart I am truly afraid
You clearly have a desire to seek Christ. Put your faith in him to repent from sins and he will help you repent. I prayed for repentance from a certain since I've been dealing with for years in a very specific manner and it was done. Once I let go of trusting my own personal will and instead trusted Jesus and his ability the sin was defeated. Even though pray every day that he helps you resist temptation. I hope this helps you.
Hebrews doesnt teach losing salvation. It teaches Christ is the only offer of salvation. If you reject Christ there isnt another gospel to save. Trust in Christ and you will be saved.
Why would the Bible say that Jesus came and died for the sins of the world then? I find myself in the same boat I always wondered if I was truly a Christian. I have heart what I thought was the Holy Spirit. I have a voice speaking many times and dreams. One night I experienced some one or thing came into my room said something then I heard some one say oh, and touched my stomach and remove a Ulcer that I had had for years. After that time the ulcer is gone never to come back even today I am free of it. Thankyou for bring this message but now it has got me wondering where will I go after death? At this time I am backslidden if that is possible for me. I have been trying to get back,, but so far with out success
Also, why do you think that happens to some people? Were they not really the elect or is it because of their heart? Even if that had good intentions but was decieved why does it happen to them?
It is no longer I who do it but sin that lives in me Rom 7:17
How do you deal with false brethren without being condemned yourself for your own sins? I'm not perfect but I see a member family is continuing in sin and has been complacent for many yrs. After 10yrs it appears theyre not saved despite what they say or profess. Please pray for me to put Him first because I will not be worthy of Him if I don't depart from hypocrites
Thank you sir
G'day, Pastor Tim! Starting at 6:51, you speak of a person who has come under influence of the Holy Spirit upon hearing a convicting sermon, yet "they get to a place where it's impossible to repent." In Jesus' parable about the sower and the seed, would this type of person fit the mold of the seed that landed possible on the rocky soil?
Oh, when you had someone read Luke 8:13 about the seed falling onto rocky ground and falling away, I thought to myself, "That answers my question about the seed in the parable."
So is there hope for those who were enlightened for some time, but then fell away? Or is the word very clear where it says that it is impossible for them to come to repentance?
Tq for this video !!!
There is absolutely no indication of a person "coming up short" in HEBREWS 6 text, UNTIL they fall away.
The writer of the letter gave up on God before he could do a continuous work in him. He decided to serve sin, rather than to die to it. He left Satan a foothold.
Also, did it ever occur to anyone that as we are all different, that we have our unique styles of worshipping God? There are many ways to worship God.
Can someone please tell me where to get that praise the lord decoration in the background
I’ve done too much for Christ to forgive me. All feels like a bunch of superstition and games at this point. I got saved at one point at least I thought and now I’ve lost my faith. The struggle has just taken a toll on me and I just choose to give up/throw in the towel. Woh is me. God has truly forgotten me
Satan wants you to think you can't be forgiven. Jesus laid down His life for you. He was beaten with flesh hanging off His body, carried a cross up a hill while being spit on and mocked so you at this point would put you're faith back in Him. He had large iron nails driven through His hands and feet all so you could avoid the flames of hell. He hung on a cross through excruciating pain and physical torment to save a wretched sinner like you and I. He is coming back one day, repent and follow Jesus, He loves you.
Christ can Forgive us all, non of us are too far to not be able to receive forgiveness. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. (1 John 1:9)
Draw nigh to God and he will draw nigh to you. Christ redeems wretches every day to His glory. He who has sinned much and has been forgiven, loves much. May God turn your failing into a great testimony of his love and grace.
Dont give up as long as you are alive God can restore if you let him
1 John 1:9
Dont be fooled so easy
Please pray for me
can someone tell me how i can send a Question to Pastor Tim ?
Hosea Cuervo God bless. I’m pretty sure you have to go on their website @ www.I’llbehonest.com. Either Email them or try to look for their mailing address.
By some Christians' standards, ANYONE could be a false convert. Your pastor. Your spouse. Your Sunday school teacher. You might be one and not even realize it.
So is there hope for false converts bc I’m pretty sure I’m a false convert but I do desire a relationship with God, I just came about it wrong I guess?
Look to what Jesus told the Apostles...he told them to go to Jerusalem and wait. They did,they were in the upper room when the Spirit fell on them. Read through the book of Acts...it will tell you what you must do. Chapter 2, 8, 9,10,16,19.
Repent and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the HolyGhost, for the promise is unto you, and your children, even as many as our God shall call. Verse 38
How are you now?
He says that if we choose to sin after we knew the truth we will perish in hell. Is that after falling into one sin, one time and never to return to that sin? Is it too late? Like it was for Esau? Cuz if so, no wonder hardly anyone will make it to heaven.
Esau rejected light is a time when God calls you at different times and you keep rejecting light at some times that The Spirit give up on you aka blasphemy of the Spirit or the Sin unto death which we are not meant to pray
I felt there something was wrong like if I didn't get saved and this cleared it for me it hurts but what can I do
Just read Matthew 7. One of the most terrifying passages. Only Him who came from the Father can save and keep you. Sanctification belongs to him as well.
Matthew 7:22-23 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
These people thought they would get to heaven by their own works. God says He doesn’t even know them.
Nahum 1:7 The Lord is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and he knoweth them that trust in him.
These people trust in God not their works. God knows them that have faith in Him.
have you ever read the context of Mathew 7
do you know he is talking about false prophets let's read it together and see the context which is about false prophets and how we can know them by their fruits that would be the doctrines they speak if they are of God or not.
Mathew 7
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow isthe way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. note
15 BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS, WHICH COME TO YOU IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 YE SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
SO WE SEE THAT IF SOMEONE COMES PREACHING THAT YOU ARE SAVED BY GRACE BUT IF YOU HAVE NO WORKS YOU'RE GOING TO HELL, THATS ANOTHER GOSPEL, SALVATION IS BY FAITH APART FROM WORKS.
Question, so if that man had backslidden and realizes backslidden state when this be a parable of the lost sheep? Can you recognize his backslidden state does that mean that God never gave him back into the world? So if anyone struggles with sin are they immediately not saved? For was not even Paul struggling with things that she should do and shouldn't do?
Thank you Pastor Tim 👍🏻
I hate my life, why can't I just be saved.
Cry out to Him with all you've got.All of your sin & heartbreak.Cast it upon Him. Give it over to Him.In due course He will hear you.He promised.
I would love to ask Tim questions in person, I trust only in Jesus but I feel like I deny him so as not to suffer like stealing food and being lazy etc
what should false converts do? should I be baptised again?
If this sounds like it doesnt make any sense, it's because it doesn't. The "you cant lose your salvation" but if you do, you were never really saved thing doesnt work. You cant "fall away" if you were never in. "Work out your salvation with fear and trembling". "Persevere to the end"! He is talking about a man who repented, was baptized, and received the Holy Spirit. That is what Peter told the Romans they must do to be saved. What I believe is what makes sense. A saved person CAN walk away from their faith. The NT is littered with warning passages about abiding.
Eternal security. Conditional security. Perseverance of the saints. The falling away or apostacy. Gods holy word teaches all 4 of them.
AMEN...... 👏😏
John Piper said if he turned away now he would be lost
Once you go with a gospel of repent of your sins then there is no end to the works you must do and sins to be repented of
to be saved. Psalm 10:15 Break thou the arm of the wicked and the evil man: seek out his wickedness till thou find none.
Please pray that God saves me and fills me with His Holy Spirit Thanks
I'm going through the same. I want to know Christ but the flesh in me wants to stay in sin
Same, I want Christ
I am in this same position please pray for me
When I Believed in Christ I was alone. I Believed in Him. A year passed by I decided to get baptized 3 days or 2 days later I fell into sexual immorality, after a while I smoke and drink alcohol again after that I felt into pornography. I stopped for a while and fell again and again every year. I've known about God for 5 years now. I know for sure that the pastor who did baptized me wasn't a real pastor because he was only interested in money and women. I dont know if that has to do something.
A year ago I just decided to seat down at church I dont evangelize I dont participate in church services but IM NOT WORTHY. I FEEL lost I FEEL DESPERATE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO TO DO. I Repent every day. I still feel guilty. For 5 years I FAIL GOD I HAVE FAIL HIM.
IVE been exposed to THE TRUTH AND CHRIST so is worst to get lost know the truth. GOD knows how afraid I am. I really dont know what to do I'm afraid of GOD I'm afraid of Hell Im of the lake of fire.
If you are saved, you are saved. Nothing is going to change that truth, so don't let your backslide or your emotions to govern the truth. If you have repented of your sin, there is no reason for you to keep on dwelling in it and feeling guilty of it on and on. I have a question for you. Do you believe that the blood of Jesus is perfect enough to cleanse you of you sins. No matter how dark, how depraved we were/are, the blood of Jesus is sufficient.
I will pray for you
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I was in your state and these videos help me out of it. Hope these can help you brother Inmar! Stay steong in Christ!
@@underwaves75 Thank you!!!
How are you now?
Perhaps Hebrews 6 is about being careful not to Baptise and "lay hands" on false converts?
Theres notinhg with hand putting, i hope you are not in a charsimatic commnuity.
4:30 "one thing we know for certain: they've never been saved if it's impossible for them to be saved" not necessarily, after all wasn't Lucifer himself walking in the light at one point? Although it's also possible that the gospel passed before their eyes and they didn't take it up - like with most of the Pharisees.
The pharasees were 'Ever seeking never finding' This guy is so wrong. These hebrews Christians did find. Hebrews affirms once saved always saved. It affirms our belief even if we fall away. Why is it impossible to renew them onto repentance, because they are already saved
So even if we shipwreck our faith, and even like Esau we are still saved
And unlike what this guy says the second and 3rd soils ARE saved. While tim here may not be a devil his preaching is of the devil in this regard. The regard is once saved always saved is so TRUE!
@@frankcrawford416 "Why is it impossible to renew them onto repentance, because they are already saved" don't give me that garbage this is not a game you know. If you keep reading to Hebrews 6:8 you would conclude that the saved person would end up being burned. That doesn't sound very saved to me. Destroyed by incineration vs everlasting life. If they were already saved, then they would already be renewed unto repentance and this text would not be a warning.
Why is my preaching of the devil? Me telling you could be lost makes no difference to your salvation if it's not true. The devil is trying to lead people to being "cursed and burned". If my teaching is of the devil, then acting upon it must cause you to end up in the lake of fire. If acting upon my teaching e.g. putting away sin can lead you to damnation, then that also contradicts your teaching.
If someone puts away sin and is saved and someone else does not put away sin and is still saved, then my words don't make any difference to their case.
If someone with relatively lukewarm faith did not put away sin because they listened to your teaching and were lost, thinking they were saved. If they listened to mine and learned to respect God's salvation, grew more and more christlike and were saved, then that is a win.
As someone who is going through the same issues as I’m a new believer. This is devastating. I’m so confused. This implies that we must stop sinning in order to be saved. I thought Jesus paid it all
What statement of Tim's makes you conclude, "we must stop sinning in order to be saved"? If you can leave a timestamp of the exact place, I can provide some clarity, because in no way is the Bible teaching that. Those who focus on trying to stop sinning in order to be saved are doing nothing more than a works salvation (Gal. 3:10, Romans 4:5). At the same time those who say they are believers and live a life of sin are deceiving themselves (1 John 1:6, Ephesians 5:5-6, 1 Cor 6:9). Yet if I am a person who is deceiving myself and I realize I am deceived, that does not mean my response to my deception is to try to stop sinning... no, no, no! That means my response is to go to CHRIST and He will save me from both sin's penalty (my legal problem) and sin's power (in internal problem of a bad heart).
@@illbehonest can you see how for someone like me who has no theological background , just a natural belief in God would get confused with this info. This is what Christianity says to me … you’re a sinner , there’s nothing you can do to be saved , you must hear the gospel and believe it (how do I know if I’ve truly believed it?) , If you have trouble believing it God is so loving he’ll send you to hell , he won’t force you to believe it. If you live a life of sin then that’s proof your not truly born again. And round and round we go. I hate it. It’s confusing. I’m a sinner period. I don’t want to spend my life fighting against sin. Why won’t Jesus just save me? It’s not my fault I was born into a fallen world , and now I have to brush up and be good or else to go hell. I’ve asked the Holy Spirit to lead me and I’ve ended up doing more evil than ever. Drugs , alcohol, I’ve slept with 5 prostitutes since being baptised. And more. Can you see how I’m confused ? If I’m saved , why do I crave sin ? If I’m not saved , what did I do wrong to not be saved in the first place ??
@@illbehonest That's NOT what Tim is saying and I've heard many versions of it at this point. What he says when he piece meals Hebrews 6 and speaks like he's talking to retarded people, really slow and condescending, that's spiritual Abuse. The sign of A Christian according to the Bible is contrition and struggle with the flesh. The Church and mankind in reality is so stupid, we can't even agree on the basics. It's just pauper, it makes it SO OBVIOUS how much we need God. Is sad, really sad how much people fight about this. I'll tell you, I always contested this, The Catholics are right, Evangelicals do fight a lot and it is essentially and foremost about salvation. But NOT fighting, like they do, is WORSE.
@@illbehonest You talk out of both sides of your mouth.
Pascal's wager is a fallacy. You can't choose to believe something. Either you believe in something or you don't.
It's not about believe. Everyone knows God exists, the decision is to let layers of cognitie dissonance bury it in the back of your mind, pretending that your debt of sin against the Creator does not exist, or profess the truth and let it transform your life. Though I've never liked Pascal's wager as it reduces God to a bet and reduces following Him to a question of survival and material gain. According to Pascal's wager alone I'd follow Islam, as they have the worst Hell.
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'Everyone knows God exists,' - No, no-one knows that god exists. Some people believe a god or gods exist and some people delude themselves into thinking that this belief is 'knowing'. Knowledge is demonstrable. If you cannot show that what you believe is true then you cannot say that you know that it is true. The lack of evidence for any god or gods means belief without good reason or evidence is all you have achieve. What would you say if a neopagan came up to you and said they everyone knows that their gods exist and you were just deluding yourself that christianity was true?
@@Matthew_Holton it's actually the opposite. Most people delude themselves into thinking God does not exist. It's easy to say "lack of evidence" when you reject all evidence. This intellectual dishonesty has been built into every human since the fall of man. It's man running from God to psychologically cover their sin. Your own consciousness, awareness of good and evil, ability to think and reason is all evidence of God's existence.
You know the Bible predicted the 1260 year reign of the papacy before it happened? The city of 7 hills with the blasphemous (Pope) head? That it would uproot 3 kingdoms? (Vandals, Heruli, Ostrogoths, the 3 ribs in the bear's mouth blog.theotokos.co.za/?p=418) That it would seek to change God's law? That and many other future predictions, but your inbuilt intellectual dishonesty prevents you seeing. I am saying that even neopagans know who the real God is, for they don't get mad at their idols if a loved one dies. They get mad at the God they know exists, but are uncomfortable to be around. I know this psychological suppression of truth exists because I have lived it, but it was useless fighting the cure for sin and death.
When you say "God does not exist", your own conscience calls you a liar. You know what I'm saying is true. Accept the discomfort, as they say, you can't bullshit a bullshitter, and help me bring in the Kingdom of Heaven. I want to see drug addicts cured, abusive relationships transformed, the thieves become honest, murderers save lives, those with mental illness reason soundly, and the rat race of life make way for the Sabbath day, so hurry on idle foot soldier and let's bring in God's kingdom together. You are full of excuses. Let's not debate the existence of our running shoes, but get off the starting line.
@@TimpBizkit Tim, you have made a lot of errors. I was raised Christian and only after years of study, research I was forced to reject it, which I did reluctantly. I was not deluded, quite the reverse. I also would not claim god does not exist just that there really is no good evidence for his existence nor Christianity's validity. I really looked hard at each argument and alleged 'evidence' to try to shore up the belief of my upbringing. I know a great many other atheists who have had similar journeys. As a result they are much better informed about religion than the vast majority of theists. You are making claims that many other theists use which do not stand up to scrutiny. I suggest you do the same thing I did and actually, honestly, study the arguments you put forward. For example, ou ability to think is the result of evolution, our morality is the result of our evolved sense of fairness and altruism (which other social species share) plus the development of moral standards as society evolves. Morality is an ever changing set of values (which is why ancient 'moral' guides like the Bible and the Qoran are filled with so many commandments that are deeply immoral to modern eyes). Please do not preach at someone who has looked into these issues in great depth. Have the courage to ask yourself the hard questions, do the study and be honest enough to accept the results.
@@Matthew_Holton this is not a question of denominations or anyone in the church. But what are you doing about Christ, the living breathing loving Holy person? Do you long to imitate His ways?
I'm someone who did this and lied to myself, using - like you an "evolution of the gaps" argument. It sounded wise, smart and scientific on the surface, but my folly was exposed by my emotional reaction to good and evil, even what is esteemed in society today - such as abortion, no fault divorce, and sleeping around. I could see the "every man for himself" attitude invading me and it took a lot to fight it. The secular mindset took the focus off myself, and even though I was brought up in a Christian home, I never allowed Christ to inspire me properly, yet why did it still bother me when people sang "Jesus can't play rugby cause He's got holes in His hands"? In fact, why do people still use Jesus' name as a swear word at all? Why does this name come back to the tongues of irreligious people for a moment just to swear in frustration? Is there some kind of evolutionary drive where people who used Jesus' name as a swear word passed on their genes or lived longer?
I also took a look at the modern world and how it is designed to fade Christ into oblivion - as if by a master saboteur. From everything from the mystery of the disappearing Sabbath day, to the TV and promoted music, to Cardi B and her Wet Ass Pussy, to Louie Vega telling me never to question my morality, to land mines on some of the biblical archaeology sites. And now even the most basic truths are being questioned, such as can you change your gender? And yet STILL I feel the resistance to living the Christian life which in the words of Spock is "highly illogical".
And that's the thing, no humans logic and reason as well as they think they do, but are prone to cognitive dissonance. As Christ challenges me to work through internal issues, there are days I just want to put this off and go watch videos about bicycles and hi-fi and make a nice stack of pancakes.
So, a true christian can not become lukewarm or have a hardened heart? And don't we all, in a sense, sin every day? How is that different from living in sin.
So is this saying now that I realize I have been a false convert thinking I was saved by a prayer when young and being in the church thinking I was a Christian and going on in a lot of sin then realizing I’m not truely a Christ follower because I never obeyed Him can I not be saved by repenting now
Stephanie Barnes You can be saved because now you know you were a false convert, Plead with God and Thank him for opening your eyes and setting you free from lies and sin, this has to be from the heart.
Yes but I can't!!😢😢😢
Here's my issue with this kind of message, more out of ignorance to be clear:
This sounds far more like becoming truly saved is absolutely out of your control, in fact, you don't even get to choose. So if you surrender you life to Christ and let's say it's genuine, then 30 years down the track you fall into sin or a season of sin due to all kinds of scenarios, you'd be cursing yourself for choosing sin? Based on this assumption, you exhibited a fruit that shows you are a Heb 6 'false convert' correct? The circular argument here is "If you are truly saved, you will exhibit fruits consistent of someone who is truly saved. However, you can exhibit the same fruits but you can also be an 'almost christian'" so to speak.
So it sounds, simply put, there's no way you can know? Not only I can't choose Him, I can't even repent properly, I can't exhibit enough fruits to be saved, even if I were to trust Christ with all my heart, I still end up sinning inevitably. There's no joy, there's no assurance, there's no sense that I can look forward to seeing my Saviour or heaven because I can't repent or choose Him enough.
I honestly don't know how many times I can repent and give my life to Christ, I'm sitting here with nothing but anxiety about eternity because it's apparently impossible to truly repent correct?
No pastor I know locally can answer this question for me clearly. I'm getting so disheartened to the point where even following Christ is nerve-wracking. Seems that no matter how much I cry out to Him, no matter how much I put effort, all I see is "Oh, you better stop sinning. Oh, too late, you had a lustful thought. Woops! You shouted at your wife, or your kids or your parents. Oh dear, you had hateful anger against your parents for about 4.5 minutes that time in the car when you were ruminating. Oh by the way, you're not saved. But you still need to repent otherwise God will punish you and send you to hell. Oh and don't forget, you can still have all the possible fruits of salvation but you might also still not be saved. Sorry."
Sorry I had to rant like this but I've felt so unassured for so long, almost 26 years. Don't know how many times I get into seasons of sin as a coping mechanism for all kinds of stress, tribulation or temptations. It's getting to the point where I'm so exhausted trying to call out to Christ my cries are getting more and more feeble. I know I'm never good enough so Jesus is the only one I cling to. Now I'm told nnnnnope! He can still reject you and He would be just. You will never be good enough, you're a sinner and you need Jesus. Except 'you' can't choose Him, He has to choose you and manifest those fruits because if you do it on your own human effort, you're a false convert.
How depressing... I'm so sad just thinking about the end of my life.
Anyone who can help that would be helpful. Thanks.
Well, we are never told to measure our repentance. That’s keeping our eyes on ourselves and not Christ. His perfect obedience to the Father is more than enough to cover any disobedience that you commit. Do you trust this? If you do, the you won’t be disappointed (Rom 10:12).
Christ says repent and believe. He doesn’t say be more repentant and believe harder then you’ll be saved. Recognize you sinned then turn to Him. He fulfilled the requirement of the Father.
I know it’s hard brother (or sister), I struggle too. But Christ can and will bring comfort. Hope this helps and I hope you’re ok :)
Trust in the finished work of Jesus, and the gracious heart of the Almighty God. The striving, the endless cycle you describe, is a demonic trap. Trust in Jesus. His work on the cross, His resurrection, His faithfulness. Rest. You will not repent perfectly. You will not have perfect faith. You will not have a perfect life. Your entire job is to trust in Him, and rest in His work, not your own. Or your solutions to your endless mental and emotional cycles. Or the perfect heart in yourself you hope to find one day but never will. Trust Him, walk in light of that trust, confess your sins and trust His cross is sufficient to cover them, and He is faithful and righteous to forgive them. Continue THAT cycle, and rest in it. Stop descending into the deep caverns of your heart, and re-traversing your inevitably confusing walk to find assurance. Look to Jesus, and rest.
I cannot fully describe how your words resonate in me. I really feel for you and your inner battles because I was (and sometimes still am) through that vicious thought cycle too. You are also a great example of how twisted these basic Calvinist claims are in real life. Does it still sound to you as a gospel = good news? Are you longing for sharing these "good news" with others? Or does it lead you to such a miserable state that you don't even want to live anymore? Doesn't Jesus say "my yoke is easy and burden is light" and Apostle Paul "rejoice in the Lord always"? If there is not even room for joy anymore it's the excellent sign that this kind of message isn't from the Spirit of God but some other nasty spirit that loves to stir inner havoc and hopelessness in people. It's often sad to watch that he uses religious people for that purpose.
I’m so sorry. I’ve felt this way before, it’s awful. I still struggle with anxiety so much. But I know I need to look to Christ. It’s him. It’s all him. Pastor Tim Conway has always been confusing to me. I struggle to understand anything he says, he just repeats Paul washer a lot. Listening to Paul washer he makes things incredibly simple and clear. Tim talks a lot about what a Christian is supposed to be. Paul Washer talks about Christ. Look up Paul washer on Gods love.
I have a lot of questions... please answer
The thing to realize, people, if you are genuinely concerned, it means you have hope.
Unbelievers do not seek after God unless God draws them, and that is for the purpose of salvation. The Bible tells us that.
The Bible also tells us that it is God who draws us to him
A person on their own will not seek God, as they are dead in their sins. Only through God calling them can they even desire God.
You also need to understand predestination. God predestined everyone who will be glorified, and it is a gift from God. He will not lose a one of his chosen. Once saved, you are forever saved. There are loads of verses confirming eternal security.
Therefore, if God started a work in you by drawing you to Him, then rest assured that He will complete it to the day of glorification, which is what the Bible tells us. That is, he chose who would be saved, He gave those who would be saved to Jesus. He calls you to Himself, you respond and call on the name of the Lord, He justifies you, and later will glorify you at the second coming of the Lord.
Thus, do not live in fear. If you ever genuinely believe that you felt God drawing you to Him, and if you were sincere in faith and believed in Jesus, then it is a done deal.
God does not want those in Him to live life in fear of damnation and lack of assurance. However, you should test yourself to see if you are in the faith, and looking for fruit through sanctification is one of those signs. You have been sealed if you are truly one of his. Stop worrying and trust God and His promises.
I have enough sin to convince myself that my own effort is eternally hopeless. I don’t say that lightly. We need God to break us.
Can I ask for a prayer? My name is David Paul
I pray to God but I don't hear back. I don't know what to do. I have left everything that my conscience tells me is a sin, yet I feel no peace or change in my spirit.
I've prayed for you but I think i need one myself
@@takeupyourcross9597 tell me your name and I can pray for you, but I don't believe that God hears me anymore, I went too far, I just hope that one day God will show me his grace cause I can do nothing to be saved nowadays, I just pray, read the bible and look for hope online all day everyday
@@auxya7577 my name is Andrew. and dont let satan instill doubt fear and panic in your mind. he wants you to live in fear and doubt in the hope that youll fall away because of the stress and anxiety. satan baits you into sin by having you look away from Christ Jesus but then he also accuses you so that you feel despair over it. it really is a viscious cycle but that is because its designed to kill you (by taking your life away from Christ which you recieve by faith by making you fall away fromt the faith, and true defeat comes only once you fall away from the faith and dont believe anymore.) if satan tempts you into sin then he also tempts you into fear and doubt afterwards. now im not saying that you shouldnt be concerned about sin but what i am saying is that you shouldnt despair over sin if it is your intention to rise up and fight agaisnt it by the conviction of the Holy Spirit.
@@takeupyourcross9597 I stay away from sin as much as I can cause I'm deadly scared that God will never show me mercy if I sin, I already am so...
@@auxya7577 this is long but i believe this message is just for you. your doubts are not of Godly origin but are demonic in nature. this is when your faith should shine the brightest. Faith is trust in God and Jesus that supersedes all logic and reason; do you think the three men who were going to be burned in nebuchadnezzars furnace had any reason to believe that God would spare them from being burned up? Remember that the furnace was right Infront of them and yet they were ready to face their fear by their faith in God. yet they cried out to God and he delivered them even though they were sure of their deaths. in the same way you should cry out to God even though another form of furnace blazes before you. despite every sense of logic and reason and every fiber of your being is convinced that there is no hope left for you this is exactly the moment when you should cry out to God as did those three men. and just as how they were thrown into that furnace, nevertheless God was with them and shielded them from the flames. In the same way you must cry out to God when you feel doubt. remember that i said that God did not prevent them from entering that furnace but that God prevented them from suffering harm. by faith you can receive Gods protection by refuting the devil when he tempts you to doubt. for you the furnace and its flames are your worries and doubts but have faith in God and he will deliver you unharmed and safely out of the furnace. i hope this helps you in some way
What I can't understand is that if Calvinism is true, God has ultimately decided who will or won't cry out until God answers them. God has sealed yoir fate before you were born.
Calvinism is a lie...never trust a man that doesn't trust Gods word. This is our final authority not any mans doctrine.
If your consciousness condemns you..your in sin..The guilt is just not worth it..God help us.
Funny, Paul Washer, John MAc arthur and many more say that if your conscience condemns you is because you've grieved the Holy Spirit who dwells in you, which means you're saved.
is social anxiety a sin as well? Since he mentioned fear of men
In Revelation it does talk about cowards not inheriting the kingdom of God. I don’t believe social anxiety fits into that. Surprisingly many pastors are introverts.
If you’ve believed in Jesus Christ and his death and resurrection for your sins, you’re saved! Eternally. Forever. There’s no debate. How you live your life after salvation is a choice, and we SHOULD live a good life. But doing so doesn’t make you more saved or even prove that you’re saved.
The heart above all else is deceitful .
A person can go straight to hell and still believe. Salvation is a supernatural work of God . It’s not anything we can do . Jesus says all the father gives him will come to him and he will not turn away . His sheep hear his voice . I cried out to God for years to help me love God and hate sin. And I started to turn away from it and turn to God . And sometimes I have to run away from sin. Flee !!!
Your comment is contradicting, you can not believe in Jesus and go to hell. That makes no sense, salvation is about having faith in Jesus alone, not in your works or in what you do but in what he has done. Please take time to understand what faith in Christ is, those who say Lord, Lord do not have a relationship with God, its not true saving faith because they don't believe in His finished work.
The poor guy asked how he could be saved. Tim did not answer.
Then in Hebrews Tim stopped mid verse, before he got to, "it is impossible to renew them again...."
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One must be born of the word. 1 Pet. 1:23 ...its the incorruptible seed.