That's because it is specifying a certain kind of staff, as opposed to it being a quarterstaff, jo staff, or whatever else. Hell, the even more technical term for it in Japanese is "rokushakubo," which is even more redundant in Japanese, as it means "6 shaku (equivalent to a foot) bo." I dunno about you, but I've never seen a Japanese or Okinawan bo of another length. Those tend to be hanbo or jo staves.
I think a bo staff has great portability. You can tie a bag on the end and use it to carry stuff with you. Roman soldiers had a walking stick that carried their supplies and could be leaned against when they were tired. You just have to be willing to look ridiculous in order to pull it off.
That 2nd amendment to the pole vault Frankensteiner was pure gold. It seems like you bring out more silliness from Icy. I appreciate your patience with that.
The one understanding lacking in these types of videos: What is the weapon that you most likely would have access to in a combat situation? A staff is found everywhere: broom, rake, pole, etc. Carrying a kubotan is much better than not carrying one. Knowing how to use one is the key. Training with them is. Knowing how to use a staff is much better than not knowing. Knowing them adds options that you wouldn't have otherwise. Having options is what wins fights and battles. Training is about being prepared for them.
You don't know what you are talking about. You think incidents of violence didn't occur in Japan? Robberies never occurred there? Once again, a person who speaks with authority about stuff they know nothing about.
Funny thing about the Bo Staff is that when your young doing Wushu (Like me) its the first weapon you learn but you don't get to move on to something else until you get really good with it. So of course you kinda get bored with it..... But then years later you see people on youtube with their Bo staff videos and you get sad because you miss your Bo Staff..... Does anyone else have this problem.
I always have a walking stick/staff when I go hiking. It is in my hand. It doesn’t need to be concealed. I pair it with a fixed blade camping/hunting knife. Essentially a small sword. I didn’t learn the bo staff, though. I use a single tapered kung fu staff instead. The movements are more like spear fighting than what I’ve seen in Kobudo. For da streetz you probably need a different weapon. Assuming you don’t live in the sewer.
After seeing Mike do that acrobatics at the intro. I'm convinced hes absolutely microman. That stick would snap and slap me in the balls if i tried doing that.
The Bo is honestly the best weapon in the game....u can do so many things with it. The problem is the portability aspect of it but there's a lotta modern staff that is pretty portable.
@@SenseiSeth better off learning dual batons. then get some police batons that are extendable but I'm in the UK. in the us im choosing self defense item's from Baretta lol
@@Kytseo The only downside is that staffs are made to be swung around/hit with. If I hit someone with a broomstick, I better half a back up plan because it's gonna snap
I tell you one thing I always remember to do is carry my Bo staff. People joke and rag on me calling me a ninja turtle but once that staff busts their ass a few times the jokes are over.
The other advantage the wood staff has over expandable is versatility of grip. You can hold it on the middle and on the back quarter instead of thirds, and that offers different techniques and ranges. I agree though it's a terrible self defense weapon because of the transportation issue. It's a great trainer for weapons of opportunity.
@@kbanghart nope. you will find enough poles, branches, brooms for self defense outside. just use your training on whatever staff like thing available out there. you dont have to carry your own staff with you. so its not great for defense at home only. sadly common sense lacks in abundance these days
It's always rough when it's hard to tell how many people in the conversation just *do not* understand what has been said. I know Plenn122 failed to read well twice in a row but it is hard to tell if Cockroach Assylum did and their common sense jab was at Plenn122 or you and they fully agree with you without realizing it.
You can fight with a bo staff in a tight area by switching to using it like a blunt spear. Spears are some of the best weapons. At least until shields come into play.
This! I was going to say this but you beat me by a year. Spears are so hilariously good in hallways, you just jab fast, erratically, and at different heights, and man, nobody wants to go down that hallway. There's just something really unpleasant about someone making stabby movements at you if you don't have something ranged or something good to block with, and can't dodge to either side. And even if it's blunt, very few people are going to go "okay, I'll eat the end of a wooden broomstick to the ribs: after I close in, I'll have the advantage. This is fine." Maybe it's just me, but there's a instinct "eh, let's not" that I feel when it comes to be stabbed, even with blunt things.
This was like watching an episode of Seinfeld. Pointless, going in circles & comic relief haha. I would have liked to see the extendable staff smashed against something to test its strength.
Bo-staff = 180 cm, Broomstick = Jo-staff = 120 cm. Jo-staff can be used with both katana techniques or staff techniques. Bo-staff can be used with both two-handed sword techniques and staff techniques, but need more space, compared to Jo-staff.
Jo Staff is the best length staff. It doesn't look out of place as a walking stick and can be used like sword or staff. Also fits in most overhead bins and cars.
I prefer jō myself. It's the sized weapon they gave Morgan in The Walking Dead, but the fight choreographer obviously new jack about using one (the majority of the techniques on that show are are pretty clearly meant for a 5-foot or longer stick). I'd recommend checking out Mihaly Dobroka's channel "Introduction to Chiba Sensei's Weapons System"-series for inspiration.
Staff is fine for self-defense if you have it available in an open area. The benefit of the staff is that you can use it like an extension of your fists or like sword. Holding a staff in thirds gives you about 2 feet of extra reach over your normal fists, but with much, much more variation for how and where to strike, plus you can add fakes, joint manipulations, thrusts, or switch to a long sword-style strike at any time. A person isn't going to just flippantly block a staff strike without taking damage. People just feel silly swinging a stick around, but the fact is that it's probably the most fundamental melee weapon in human history. As for portability or practicality, it's just a tool for a particular job. I hike often, so it's a natural fit for that. Same for rucking. That said, if you want something more portable and practical for daily or more city-like applications, then a jo is probably better since it's basically the size of a walking stick which is far less conspicuous if you are treating it as a walking stick. Finally, buy a rattan staff with the skin intact. Rattan is highly durable, flexible, and lightweight. I have been using rattan for my staff of choice for a while, and even practicing by beating it against an oak fence post, then the post looks beat up, but the rattan staff barely has a scratch.
I think the real benefit from training with a bo staff is that as long as it isn't made of paper/poor plastic, you can use any sticklike object(even common once we all have in house) and actually if you apply diagonal cutting motions(like with a spear or a halberd) you can still pretty much use it without hitting walls or floor.
I know a guy who goes everywhere with a staff. He is a bit eccentric, and he is in England, where the tolerance for eccentricity is quite high, but he quite happily takes it everywhere. He knows how to use it too. I follow The Way of The Stick myself, and I will be hitchhiking to Istanbul in the summer with a staff that reaches my chin. I'm hiking the Pindus Mountains too. Fandabi Dozi has some interesting stuff on Highland Scots staff usage
Depending on location the skills of learning how to fight with a staff could be useful. If you get in to a fight at a bar most bars have pooltables so a cuestick could be a makeshift staff. This could be true in many settings that you may have things around you could use as a makeshift staff.
@@SenseiSeth Maybe I mean there a lot of places where an improvised staff can be picked up. Mop from a janitor's closet or from a street cleaner, a rake or other garden implemement. Sure it's not always guaranteed that you will be in a situation where you have access to an improvised staff but I would think is one of those cases where getting the training on how to fight effectively with a staff can be useful and that training is not detrimental if you are in a situation where you are not going to use it.
@@UnexpectedWonder This is a great point. All weapons are truly situational. That's why they evolve so much throughout the centuries, and why weapons of war and everyday weapons are so different.
You guys are absolutely hilariously Legit. I like the way you take the “ shoulda, woulda, coulda “ scenarios, and demonstrate real logic behind each one of them....break them down, and finding a purposeful way of actually using them to a real defensive solution......and all the while having fun in the process. 😎🙏🙏👍
You mentioned an important point when you compared the Bo with escrima. Both are not weapons you usually carry on you in your daily life (at least where I live). But knowing how to use sticks as extensions of your limbs can give you an edge and make you a more (mentally) flexible fighter. Training the arnis double sticks for instance thought me to respond to the angle of an attack instead of the "type " of attack (haymaker punch, forehand or backhand swing with a stick etc). It is best to see it as an add on to your arsenal.
I like staffs cuz they're easier to obtain than most other weapons...its a stick. Lol. Also, it's a ranged weapon, meant to keep people at length. Loved the hurricanrana from mike. That was totally unexpected. Yet also not surprising. I've always wanted to try one, but was afraid it would backfire and I'd get slammed straight or my weight would make them collapse before I finish the swing. That smaller staff was pretty cool too. That's something I'd likely get.
@@SenseiSeth true, I've played with many sticks I've picked up from under trees. Simply so I could swing em around like a staff. I've even struck some against trees to make them break. Sometimes, they didn't always break as easily. But even if it does, it results in a pointed end. Sticks are more versatile than expected. Start with a "staff", end with a kali stick. Lol. I am referring to outside sticks. I also bought a walking stick from Walmart for the same reason. It's a good manageable length.
Nice to finally see a Bo staff video. Personally I prefer the Jo Staff as its a bit more dynamic and there are more options in a smaller space. Plus I think it better without the taper as a standard one can generate more power. The taper is good for spinning and more flashy moves.
A Jo-Staff has also quite the length of a common broomstick, which makes the idea of "finding/picking up and using something for self-defense" more propable.
I have always thought that this is the best weapon you can learn to use. Not because you can carry it anywhere, but because you can turn so many other “sticks” into a weapon.
I'm a 6'7" southpaw boxer getting back in the ring at an older age. I appreciate your use of the height advantage. I would like your advice on keeping someone at range without always needing to run and give up space.
In confined spaces, you can use staff (walking stick, cane, umrella, broom) as a spear - that way, you don't have to swing it around and hit walls and furniture.
Bo staff technique has been warped by kung-fu movies where they do a lot of unnecessary spinning and sweeping attacks.. im not that guy thats saying im right but my understanding is its more of a "use the front to jab/poke them somewhere soft to get them to contort and then use the back to sweep through and smack them"...another thing ive noticed is that people try to grab it but never actually expect to grab it so when they do grab it you have a split second of surprise to rush in and punch them a lot...
If you're always dressed up as a wizard you can get away with carrying in all kinds of places... Though, if you're actually a wizard, just cast Fireball, does a lot more damage
Personally, the reason I opt for staff as a self defense weapon other than the abundance of it around is the balance. A well made staff carries a proper balance on the center and it resonates well with the movement of the body. It also provides an almost perfect defense range considering you can thrust and deliver two blows in one motion. Plus it's not decimating your opponent and just cripple them so you can get away. To me, bo staff is a pacifist weapon entirely made to protect than to kill. Also, I enjoy staff cause it's modular, put a small knife on top and you have a spear. Either way, my utmost reason for its preference is mainly due to its balance.
I actually enjoy training with the quarter staff time to time it's not my main focus but it's a nice break from what I normally do and honestly still very applicable for self-defense
Might be too lethal Seth but here is my take: A stabby sharpened sword in a parasol (there arent many in the market & are difficult to find online but definitely possible). A parasol is socially acceptable to carry so there you go. The other thing you can carry is the parasol club where the back end is heavy like a mace. Anything parasol like is socially ok, you can go inside anywhere with one, etc, etc.
@@SenseiSeth Look strictly for a high carbon still one or something so you know you are not getting scammed with sharpening. As for the other heavy mace like umbrella that one just make sure the bottom end is heavy & spherical like a mace.
The bo staff was my introduction to martial arts and let me tell you what, its an amazing starting weapon. You can learn how to fight with anything starting from a staff. Wanna do a twohanded weapon, hold one end of the staff with both hands, want to learn to punch? Two hands palms down near the center of the staff. I could go on, its just amazing!
Zachary Wylde had the Quattro answer for selfdefense in 1711: Broadsword for cutting, Smallsword for thrusting, quarterstaff versus multiple opponents and wrestling for close-quarters
Check out Irish stick fighting, Highland staff fighting, quarterstaff fighting. Sticks have been used for centuries as both offensive and defensive weapon systems as well as survival tools, walking aids etc.
i'm newly disabled and i think the sickest part about it is that I can *finally* use a staff as an edc self defense tool now that I need one to walk 💪🏾
In the discussion about the collapsable staff, you didn't explore the social acceptability of deploying it. Scenario: Someone attacks you while walking home from the market. you use that and successfully defend yourself. Knowing your own community, will the use of this or any weapon be acceptable? I think that that is what makes even a walking stick unacceptable these days. At least, here in L.A.
Depends on how to deploy it I guess.. Like, if you just hold it vertically in your fist and shake it down once to deploy one end and than pretend it's a walking stick, nobody will probably care much. If you do the "baton-im-gonna-beat-the-shit-out-of-you" move to deploy it, it's probably not acceptable.
I would never swing with a broom when in a fight, instead I would level it with the face and make quick jabs to the nose area. A broom will snap and not hurt people too bad if swung, if you get jabbed in the face a few times it's gonna hurt and do serious damage even with those little plastic brooms.
You guys kinda discount holding the staff near one end and using it's full reach, but that's exactly how a lot masters from medieval and renaissance Europe used their staffs and I'm guessing they knew what they were doing.
@@SenseiSeth I doubt we've learned a whole lot since then seeing as how people actually used staff weapons back then, if anything we know less now. Also I was talking about staffs not spears or polearms, so no pointy ends.
It could possibly be effective if you have practical experience with it, understand your range in the enviornment and have enough grappling experience to disarm it from them in case of a struggle (aka they try to grab it). I can see why you ranked flashlight above it, sure it has greater damage potentional, but that potention comes at a cost, the maneuverability and the concealibility as well, which means that a greater emphasis has be to placed with my skill in general (whipping out and extending it) not just with that weapon but the grappling associated with it, with a flashlight you have the element of surprise, and opportunity with a greater range, and not having to attack; that's not even going into the legal repercussions. Don't get me wrong, I bloody love the bo staff (it along with the sword were my first weapons I trained with), but disadvantages make it a weapon that while probably readily available (brooms, pipes, others) need a lot more skill to wield than say a flashlight. Anyways end of rant, hope everyone's having a good day👍
This is an interesting video. I've been watching hema videos where they discuss long weapons versus sword. Long weapons usually win all the time. You don't even need to spin a staff to make it dangerous. Just poking straight can be bad enough and keep selling at a distance.
I guess if you really want a staff-like weapon you could fake a limp and walk around with a really long cane, use it like a quarterstaff. Come to think of it, have you & Mike reviewed canes as possible self-defense weapons? I know Cold Steel makes a few that are built to take heavy hits. They even have a 59 inch "walking staff." 1:24 And lol next time you catch Mike doing a Dempsey Roll you gotta add that sound effect.
The bo staff or in Wing Chun is called 6 1/2 staff or luk tim boon kwan. It is originated from a boat or sampan peddler taking the Peking Opera wherever they have a show to perform. The peddler bacame good at using it as self defense that it was said he could fight a 100 people with it. All he had to do is run to a corner of a wall and those who wanted to kill him had to come one by one. Now the staff became a part of a section to learn in Wing Chun
So, why is a Bo Staff a GOOD self defense weapon??
"Big chib" lol. You have a lot of Scottish fans good for you!!!! UK was in the house!!🏴🇬🇧🇮🇪
Versatile, long ranged, gets the job done
@RED CHUCKS true!
@@daleferia1640 fair points!
@@NicolaMaxwell ayeee!
What did we learn here?
Never bring your toys at Icy Mike's place because he's gonna steal them from you, and interrupt you all the time.
Truth, and break them lol
@@SenseiSeth hahaha
Video was going smoothly till Mike discovered he could neck-leg throw off the big pointy stick. THEN it was a party.
Mike looks like has so much fun with you. This is the real experience of being in a martial arts group.
truth!!
"It's my channel you have to give it to me now Mike"...LOL
😂😂😂 "it's my staff I'm going home"
the stuff I have to put up with!! lol
Mike needs his own Bo Staff. He seems to love it.
@@SenseiSeth At least he didn't hit you with the "It's my gym."
and mike disappears to the bathroom lol
icy mike's athleticism with the staff is amazing
Right? 😂
Monkey Magic.
@@BWater-yq3jx 7:48
He even does the gorilla walk back to the staff!
He has truly embraced the way of the monkey.
As Jesse Enkamp would say, Bo already means staff so Bo Staff is literally Staff Staff
😉
But Napoleon Dynamite said.... 😆
I read that in Jesse Enkamp voice in my head, be honest, so did you😄
That's because it is specifying a certain kind of staff, as opposed to it being a quarterstaff, jo staff, or whatever else. Hell, the even more technical term for it in Japanese is "rokushakubo," which is even more redundant in Japanese, as it means "6 shaku (equivalent to a foot) bo." I dunno about you, but I've never seen a Japanese or Okinawan bo of another length. Those tend to be hanbo or jo staves.
It's like saying ATM machine and PIN number. Saying bo staff is technically incorrect and redundant but it still sounds cool.
Never thought that I need to see Mike throw a flying triangle to Seth this much in my life
See my new channel banner lol
Agreed!
I think a bo staff has great portability. You can tie a bag on the end and use it to carry stuff with you. Roman soldiers had a walking stick that carried their supplies and could be leaned against when they were tired. You just have to be willing to look ridiculous in order to pull it off.
oh thats pretty true
0:06 I’m gonna tell my kids this was Jackie Chan
essentially?! hahaha
😂😂😂😂
That 2nd amendment to the pole vault Frankensteiner was pure gold. It seems like you bring out more silliness from Icy. I appreciate your patience with that.
Mike is a grade A clown in my videos hahaha
The one understanding lacking in these types of videos:
What is the weapon that you most likely would have access to in a combat situation?
A staff is found everywhere: broom, rake, pole, etc.
Carrying a kubotan is much better than not carrying one.
Knowing how to use one is the key. Training with them is.
Knowing how to use a staff is much better than not knowing.
Knowing them adds options that you wouldn't have otherwise.
Having options is what wins fights and battles.
Training is about being prepared for them.
fair!
One caveat. If you hit me with a well made staff, I'm fucked. If you hit me with a broomstick, I'm kicking you after it breaks
and of course side kicks dont work
@@ianstiehl1994 lol
@@ianstiehl1994 depends on the broom and the target.
the bo staff is cool for twirling and dancing, the quarter staff is were its at for keeping peasants away from your coin pouch
lol there ya go
I will never understand the tooth pick staffs used by XMA people
@@thorstenmarquardt7274 for speed...... that's it lol
@@thorstenmarquardt7274 For speed and to look cool tbh that's it
You don't know what you are talking about. You think incidents of violence didn't occur in Japan? Robberies never occurred there? Once again, a person who speaks with authority about stuff they know nothing about.
Mike in this video is the personification of my ADHD 😂😂
He instantly became Monkey King 😂
I just lost my shit and laughed so hard when Icy Mike went all "Killer Pole Vault Lucha LIbre" attack
Funny thing about the Bo Staff is that when your young doing Wushu (Like me) its the first weapon you learn but you don't get to move on to something else until you get really good with it. So of course you kinda get bored with it.....
But then years later you see people on youtube with their Bo staff videos and you get sad because you miss your Bo Staff..... Does anyone else have this problem.
Bo staffs are pretty dang cool. Easily my favorite weapon
No but wish I did lol. Scotland has boxing and ermmmmm football 😐
@@NicolaMaxwell Boxing innit wanka??
@@SenseiSeth Jian is mine
Haha for me it was the Dao,it was quite cool cos i found it recently
I always have a walking stick/staff when I go hiking. It is in my hand. It doesn’t need to be concealed.
I pair it with a fixed blade camping/hunting knife. Essentially a small sword.
I didn’t learn the bo staff, though. I use a single tapered kung fu staff instead. The movements are more like spear fighting than what I’ve seen in Kobudo.
For da streetz you probably need a different weapon. Assuming you don’t live in the sewer.
Self defense... for da sewers! Lol
After seeing Mike do that acrobatics at the intro. I'm convinced hes absolutely microman. That stick would snap and slap me in the balls if i tried doing that.
Hahah yikes 😂😂
The staff poll-vault into a triangle choke attempt was the funniest moment in RUclips history!
The Bo is honestly the best weapon in the game....u can do so many things with it. The problem is the portability aspect of it but there's a lotta modern staff that is pretty portable.
like which ones??
@@SenseiSeth better off learning dual batons. then get some police batons that are extendable but I'm in the UK. in the us im choosing self defense item's from Baretta lol
Helping the staff is the fact that anything that's long and stick-like can be used as a staff.
@@Kytseo The only downside is that staffs are made to be swung around/hit with. If I hit someone with a broomstick, I better half a back up plan because it's gonna snap
@@embernyx2564 Luckily, backup plans are plentiful
I already love this video in the 1st 10 seconds...
ayeeee
Mike - "Is this a move? Is this? Is THIS a move?" Jumps crotch first into yo face
I tell you one thing I always remember to do is carry my Bo staff. People joke and rag on me calling me a ninja turtle but once that staff busts their ass a few times the jokes are over.
Okay Editing Seth is my new fave
😂😂😂
The best self defense is watching Mike act like an 8 year old who just discovered ninja turtles all video.
The other advantage the wood staff has over expandable is versatility of grip. You can hold it on the middle and on the back quarter instead of thirds, and that offers different techniques and ranges. I agree though it's a terrible self defense weapon because of the transportation issue. It's a great trainer for weapons of opportunity.
yes!! great point
So in other words, it's great for defense at home.
@@kbanghart nope. you will find enough poles, branches, brooms for self defense outside. just use your training on whatever staff like thing available out there. you dont have to carry your own staff with you. so its not great for defense at home only. sadly common sense lacks in abundance these days
@@cockroachassylum9318 yes I guess so, don't know why he said that
It's always rough when it's hard to tell how many people in the conversation just *do not* understand what has been said. I know Plenn122 failed to read well twice in a row but it is hard to tell if Cockroach Assylum did and their common sense jab was at Plenn122 or you and they fully agree with you without realizing it.
Endgame reference,,"give it to me"🏁
Ayeee! Good catch!
You can fight with a bo staff in a tight area by switching to using it like a blunt spear. Spears are some of the best weapons. At least until shields come into play.
There ya go
This! I was going to say this but you beat me by a year. Spears are so hilariously good in hallways, you just jab fast, erratically, and at different heights, and man, nobody wants to go down that hallway. There's just something really unpleasant about someone making stabby movements at you if you don't have something ranged or something good to block with, and can't dodge to either side. And even if it's blunt, very few people are going to go "okay, I'll eat the end of a wooden broomstick to the ribs: after I close in, I'll have the advantage. This is fine." Maybe it's just me, but there's a instinct "eh, let's not" that I feel when it comes to be stabbed, even with blunt things.
This was like watching an episode of Seinfeld. Pointless, going in circles & comic relief haha.
I would have liked to see the extendable staff smashed against something to test its strength.
You are the only person who responds to my questions in livestreams
happy to help however I can!!
He's awesome
Quaterstaff is better though....D&D nerds UNITE!
Also Mike definitely as Bo Staff ADD or as it's better-known BSADD
hahaha 100%
Hema nerds agree
That first mess around move Mike did with the staff actually looked sick 😅
That boton staff was actually pretty sick.
right??
it was. To be honest, though, I think I'd prefer one baton thats twice as long in that handle, rather than the two.
True that
Bo-staff = 180 cm, Broomstick = Jo-staff = 120 cm.
Jo-staff can be used with both katana techniques or staff techniques.
Bo-staff can be used with both two-handed sword techniques and staff techniques, but need more space, compared to Jo-staff.
that's dope! I will check it out!
The Jo was the first weapon I learned application for.
Jo Staff is the best length staff. It doesn't look out of place as a walking stick and can be used like sword or staff. Also fits in most overhead bins and cars.
I prefer jō myself. It's the sized weapon they gave Morgan in The Walking Dead, but the fight choreographer obviously new jack about using one (the majority of the techniques on that show are are pretty clearly meant for a 5-foot or longer stick). I'd recommend checking out Mihaly Dobroka's channel "Introduction to Chiba Sensei's Weapons System"-series for inspiration.
Staff is fine for self-defense if you have it available in an open area. The benefit of the staff is that you can use it like an extension of your fists or like sword. Holding a staff in thirds gives you about 2 feet of extra reach over your normal fists, but with much, much more variation for how and where to strike, plus you can add fakes, joint manipulations, thrusts, or switch to a long sword-style strike at any time. A person isn't going to just flippantly block a staff strike without taking damage. People just feel silly swinging a stick around, but the fact is that it's probably the most fundamental melee weapon in human history.
As for portability or practicality, it's just a tool for a particular job. I hike often, so it's a natural fit for that. Same for rucking. That said, if you want something more portable and practical for daily or more city-like applications, then a jo is probably better since it's basically the size of a walking stick which is far less conspicuous if you are treating it as a walking stick.
Finally, buy a rattan staff with the skin intact. Rattan is highly durable, flexible, and lightweight. I have been using rattan for my staff of choice for a while, and even practicing by beating it against an oak fence post, then the post looks beat up, but the rattan staff barely has a scratch.
The metal one is cool
very cool!
But cheap af
1:59 a real magician Seth 😅
Now you see my foot, now you dont! hahah
Holy crap, I want the Darth Maul staff for “cool factor” alone!
I think the real benefit from training with a bo staff is that as long as it isn't made of paper/poor plastic, you can use any sticklike object(even common once we all have in house) and actually if you apply diagonal cutting motions(like with a spear or a halberd) you can still pretty much use it without hitting walls or floor.
😂 😂 😂 the martial arts to comedy ratio is always on point 👌 Sensei!
🙏 🥋 ❤️
haha happy to hear it!!
I know a guy who goes everywhere with a staff. He is a bit eccentric, and he is in England, where the tolerance for eccentricity is quite high, but he quite happily takes it everywhere. He knows how to use it too. I follow The Way of The Stick myself, and I will be hitchhiking to Istanbul in the summer with a staff that reaches my chin. I'm hiking the Pindus Mountains too. Fandabi Dozi has some interesting stuff on Highland Scots staff usage
Lol I was just watching a fandabi dozi video before this one
Depending on location the skills of learning how to fight with a staff could be useful. If you get in to a fight at a bar most bars have pooltables so a cuestick could be a makeshift staff. This could be true in many settings that you may have things around you could use as a makeshift staff.
Very fair point! But that’s SUPER situational
Exactly!
@@SenseiSeth All Weapons are situational though.
@@SenseiSeth Maybe I mean there a lot of places where an improvised staff can be picked up. Mop from a janitor's closet or from a street cleaner, a rake or other garden implemement. Sure it's not always guaranteed that you will be in a situation where you have access to an improvised staff but I would think is one of those cases where getting the training on how to fight effectively with a staff can be useful and that training is not detrimental if you are in a situation where you are not going to use it.
@@UnexpectedWonder This is a great point.
All weapons are truly situational. That's why they evolve so much throughout the centuries, and why weapons of war and everyday weapons are so different.
You guys are absolutely hilariously Legit. I like the way you take the “ shoulda, woulda, coulda “ scenarios, and demonstrate real logic behind each one of them....break them down, and finding a purposeful way of actually using them to a real defensive solution......and all the while having fun in the process. 😎🙏🙏👍
At 5:08 Mike gave me a flashback to the elementary school playground
Hahahah
Allot of fun making this video ...I think we all love the bo staff since its just cool! it is something everyone should learn some basics.
true that!!
if lacrosse/hockey players take notes we're doomed
True 😂
I love you and Icy Mike together. So fun!
You mentioned an important point when you compared the Bo with escrima. Both are not weapons you usually carry on you in your daily life (at least where I live). But knowing how to use sticks as extensions of your limbs can give you an edge and make you a more (mentally) flexible fighter. Training the arnis double sticks for instance thought me to respond to the angle of an attack instead of the "type " of attack (haymaker punch, forehand or backhand swing with a stick etc). It is best to see it as an add on to your arsenal.
0:47 that is correct, yes. i would just carry it around. i like walking sticks, they are useful :)
*Proceeds to hold the half staff like a longsword.*
"in tighter spaces this is a little more manageable"
Humanity thought so too, yeah.
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Could've heard a cool metal-on-bald head sound effect if Seth didn't miss this potential stinger at 2:24
I like staffs cuz they're easier to obtain than most other weapons...its a stick. Lol.
Also, it's a ranged weapon, meant to keep people at length.
Loved the hurricanrana from mike. That was totally unexpected. Yet also not surprising. I've always wanted to try one, but was afraid it would backfire and I'd get slammed straight or my weight would make them collapse before I finish the swing.
That smaller staff was pretty cool too. That's something I'd likely get.
That’s fair, but not every stick is as sturdy as a bo?
@@SenseiSeth true, I've played with many sticks I've picked up from under trees. Simply so I could swing em around like a staff. I've even struck some against trees to make them break. Sometimes, they didn't always break as easily. But even if it does, it results in a pointed end. Sticks are more versatile than expected. Start with a "staff", end with a kali stick. Lol.
I am referring to outside sticks. I also bought a walking stick from Walmart for the same reason. It's a good manageable length.
Mike is a goofball and so is all his comrades 😊
Nice to finally see a Bo staff video. Personally I prefer the Jo Staff as its a bit more dynamic and there are more options in a smaller space. Plus I think it better without the taper as a standard one can generate more power. The taper is good for spinning and more flashy moves.
I'll have to google Jo Staff!
@@SenseiSeth it's the 4ft staff, got some sparring vids with it on my channel 😊
Totally agree! As Muso Gonnosuke said "Jo Rulzz" !
A Jo-Staff has also quite the length of a common broomstick, which makes the idea of "finding/picking up and using something for self-defense" more propable.
@@FredKuneDo Definately agree with that, same as with a mop, pool cue etc.
I have always thought that this is the best weapon you can learn to use. Not because you can carry it anywhere, but because you can turn so many other “sticks” into a weapon.
I'm a 6'7" southpaw boxer getting back in the ring at an older age. I appreciate your use of the height advantage. I would like your advice on keeping someone at range without always needing to run and give up space.
I'll work on it!
I have no answers but WOW that's tall mate. Furys the man to watch for that Sir. Good for you getting back into it!👌🙏
Thank you for the replies.
@@NicolaMaxwell I'll check it out a little closer.
@@SenseiSeth I appreciate it.
Is Sensei Seth a Forged in Fire fan?
yes!!!!
In confined spaces, you can use staff (walking stick, cane, umrella, broom) as a spear - that way, you don't have to swing it around and hit walls and furniture.
Unless you're a trained spear-thrower, trust me that none of those will do shit. Especially an umbrella, way too light to do any damage when thrown
@@lukatrdina5108 OK, my comment was misleading - I meant using spear to thrust, not throw.
@@LuxisAlukard Oh, in that case, i agree! More range and its not a part of you so it cant get hurt
“You’re just gonna walk around with this?” Yes
Jesus Christ ... that was like dealing with my 4 year old son when he´s high on sugar. I praise your patience :)
Bo staff technique has been warped by kung-fu movies where they do a lot of unnecessary spinning and sweeping attacks.. im not that guy thats saying im right but my understanding is its more of a "use the front to jab/poke them somewhere soft to get them to contort and then use the back to sweep through and smack them"...another thing ive noticed is that people try to grab it but never actually expect to grab it so when they do grab it you have a split second of surprise to rush in and punch them a lot...
7:40 I fully cackled out loud
Hahaha he got me good..
If you're always dressed up as a wizard you can get away with carrying in all kinds of places... Though, if you're actually a wizard, just cast Fireball, does a lot more damage
The jet sound effect...lol
it was a helicopter! Mike Ready for take-off lol
This channels great lol cheered me up tonight.
I assumed this was referencing the beach training scene in Aquaman...
'Mike, you have to share.' Haha Love the collab videos!
Time to take my staff skills to color guard tryouts. Their twirly sticks are no match for mine.
Oh dear😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
hahhahaaaha underrated comment
That asome
Two of my favorite youtubers.
Man! I love the scenes where you're frustrated editing @IcyMike.
ugh. you mean all of them?? hahaha
Personally, the reason I opt for staff as a self defense weapon other than the abundance of it around is the balance. A well made staff carries a proper balance on the center and it resonates well with the movement of the body. It also provides an almost perfect defense range considering you can thrust and deliver two blows in one motion. Plus it's not decimating your opponent and just cripple them so you can get away. To me, bo staff is a pacifist weapon entirely made to protect than to kill. Also, I enjoy staff cause it's modular, put a small knife on top and you have a spear. Either way, my utmost reason for its preference is mainly due to its balance.
I actually enjoy training with the quarter staff time to time it's not my main focus but it's a nice break from what I normally do and honestly still very applicable for self-defense
I agree with mike abt the wooden vs metal awesome vid!
True that! Thank!!
Alternative title: Watch Seth and Mike play with staffs for 8 minutes 😂
New viewer, loving your content man!
Enjoying both this video and the livestream! Love your videos!
Glad to hear it!
Might be too lethal Seth but here is my take: A stabby sharpened sword in a parasol (there arent many in the market & are difficult to find online but definitely possible).
A parasol is socially acceptable to carry so there you go. The other thing you can carry is the parasol club where the back end is heavy like a mace.
Anything parasol like is socially ok, you can go inside anywhere with one, etc, etc.
I’ll Google it!
@@SenseiSeth MANY ARE NOT SHARPENED DON'T GIT SCAMMED! Just saying!
@@SenseiSeth Look strictly for a high carbon still one or something so you know you are not getting scammed with sharpening. As for the other heavy mace like umbrella that one just make sure the bottom end is heavy & spherical like a mace.
I think the security umbrellas are awesome, not sharpy stabby but effective and portable.
The bo staff was my introduction to martial arts and let me tell you what, its an amazing starting weapon. You can learn how to fight with anything starting from a staff.
Wanna do a twohanded weapon, hold one end of the staff with both hands, want to learn to punch? Two hands palms down near the center of the staff. I could go on, its just amazing!
I'm hear from the livestream
Shoutout buddy!👌🏴
yoooo
Zachary Wylde had the Quattro answer for selfdefense in 1711: Broadsword for cutting, Smallsword for thrusting, quarterstaff versus multiple opponents and wrestling for close-quarters
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me: perfect
Ayee
Check out Irish stick fighting, Highland staff fighting, quarterstaff fighting.
Sticks have been used for centuries as both offensive and defensive weapon systems as well as survival tools, walking aids etc.
1) it creates distance 2) you can bring it (or something similar/shorter?) on a hike 3) it is AWESOME
on a hike! absolutely
i'm newly disabled and i think the sickest part about it is that I can *finally* use a staff as an edc self defense tool now that I need one to walk 💪🏾
Why a bo staff? would u bring that to a fight? just asking
I mean if it was allowed! haha
@@SenseiSeth oh yeah i remember u saying that in the livestream
@@xaviersfinance2664 If you are hiking you can. Since walking sticks are not out of the ordinary.
Cuz why not? I have one in my car.
Steel pipes, mop handles, broom sticks, rakes
I found Icy Mike's antics to be the best part of the video.
In the discussion about the collapsable staff, you didn't explore the social acceptability of deploying it. Scenario: Someone attacks you while walking home from the market. you use that and successfully defend yourself. Knowing your own community, will the use of this or any weapon be acceptable? I think that that is what makes even a walking stick unacceptable these days. At least, here in L.A.
yea i think the dilemma of "did me deploying this weapon START the fight?!" is a big topic
Depends on how to deploy it I guess.. Like, if you just hold it vertically in your fist and shake it down once to deploy one end and than pretend it's a walking stick, nobody will probably care much. If you do the "baton-im-gonna-beat-the-shit-out-of-you" move to deploy it, it's probably not acceptable.
Fair points
People don't have these conversations about guns and being attacked by strangers..
I would never swing with a broom when in a fight, instead I would level it with the face and make quick jabs to the nose area. A broom will snap and not hurt people too bad if swung, if you get jabbed in the face a few times it's gonna hurt and do serious damage even with those little plastic brooms.
You guys kinda discount holding the staff near one end and using it's full reach, but that's exactly how a lot masters from medieval and renaissance Europe used their staffs and I'm guessing they knew what they were doing.
well, i mean I would get we've learned more since then. also, they probably had something sharp and pointy at the end!
@@SenseiSeth I doubt we've learned a whole lot since then seeing as how people actually used staff weapons back then, if anything we know less now. Also I was talking about staffs not spears or polearms, so no pointy ends.
@@SenseiSeth here's an example of the kind of thing I was talking about
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Aaaaaah I love the Forged in Fire reference there at the very end!!!
That was like the best move ever WWE style
they need bo staffs in WWE!! lol
I keep a bo staff just like the red one in my car right by the door. I’ve used it for over two years and I love it.
Oh man when they dropped the bo I was like "PAY 20, ON THE FLOOR; NOW!" :D
hahahaha SORRY SIR
Instead of blunt ends on that retractable staff, if you replace it with pointy ends and maybe a bit of edge closer to the tip it would be even better.
Is Mario back there?
sure sounded like it lol
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dude that intro was awesome...automatic like! ;)
Hey, thanks! appreciate it!
But seriously, can we just talk a bit about Mike's awesome hurricanrana? That move has no reason to work that well.
hahaha right?!
Seth you’ve got a super sense of humor you and the Icey one are the laurel and hardy of martial arts
It could possibly be effective if you have practical experience with it, understand your range in the enviornment and have enough grappling experience to disarm it from them in case of a struggle (aka they try to grab it). I can see why you ranked flashlight above it, sure it has greater damage potentional, but that potention comes at a cost, the maneuverability and the concealibility as well, which means that a greater emphasis has be to placed with my skill in general (whipping out and extending it) not just with that weapon but the grappling associated with it, with a flashlight you have the element of surprise, and opportunity with a greater range, and not having to attack; that's not even going into the legal repercussions. Don't get me wrong, I bloody love the bo staff (it along with the sword were my first weapons I trained with), but disadvantages make it a weapon that while probably readily available (brooms, pipes, others) need a lot more skill to wield than say a flashlight. Anyways end of rant, hope everyone's having a good day👍
staff is 100% my fave too. I’ll have to work on a “how to ACTUALLY make a bo staff work” lol
This is an interesting video. I've been watching hema videos where they discuss long weapons versus sword. Long weapons usually win all the time. You don't even need to spin a staff to make it dangerous. Just poking straight can be bad enough and keep selling at a distance.
I guess if you really want a staff-like weapon you could fake a limp and walk around with a really long cane, use it like a quarterstaff. Come to think of it, have you & Mike reviewed canes as possible self-defense weapons? I know Cold Steel makes a few that are built to take heavy hits. They even have a 59 inch "walking staff."
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And lol next time you catch Mike doing a Dempsey Roll you gotta add that sound effect.
Gotta make the limp super convincing!! Lol
The bo staff or in Wing Chun is called 6 1/2 staff or luk tim boon kwan. It is originated from a boat or sampan peddler taking the Peking Opera wherever they have a show to perform. The peddler bacame good at using it as self defense that it was said he could fight a 100 people with it. All he had to do is run to a corner of a wall and those who wanted to kill him had to come one by one. Now the staff became a part of a section to learn in Wing Chun
I need to sleep seth pleaseee reply
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@@SenseiSeth so mean
@@Zapinator321 Sleep is an opportunity for your opponent. Real masters use meditation and are ready all night. Wink wink
@@Zapinator321 To be fair the OC was slightly rude in the live chat lol
The bald headed guy with a beard is like an excited energetic kid in a candy store.