At the end, @SenseiSeth, you said you kind of liked especially the guard: maybe then try „Crazy Monkey Defense“ by Coach Rodney King, which is great for stand up punch protection, too, even bareknuckle! Also there you have kind of a „ram“ and cover, too , the 3-point Cover for example (there are plenty of that covers for cover, crash, counter to clinch or to ride the storm of some punches to then engage to clinch, or to disengage, depending on styles, systems and instructors: Craig Douglas: default cover, ISR Matrix: Helmet/ Cover, Gracie Jiu Jitsu „rhino block“ to headcover to getting to clinch safely, etc, etc….
Hi sensei Seth. I love your videos but i feel like you forgot a big martial art that started in France. I'm talking about parkour! I was always curious if learning and mastering parkour was good for self defense as it teaches you to get out of bad situations much more better than the average, allowing you to take even the most unlikely of scenarios and make them seem survivable. Thanks for reading, big fan ❤
"Give me a good bump." I took a deep breath and did as I was told, crashing forward into Alan's barrel shaped chest, albeit as gently and politely as I could. Alan was patient and measured, coaxing me to hit him, "Yeah... a little more." I increased the pace, driving myself into Alan's body several more times, until finally he was forced back a few steps. I felt like I was on top of the world, "Whoa..." "Right! That's the ram attack." "I like that..." We continued... colliding with one another again and again. With my cheeks aching from the wide grin on my face and my hair a disheveled mess, I reveled in the moment. Alan expertly timed his breathing and balance to coincide with mine. I was free to give him everything I had. There were no expectations... so there could be no mistakes. No matter how hard I went, I couldn't hurt him. I felt free. I felt safe. I felt like I could do anything. I felt like I could say anything. "You're very sturdy..."
Is this the martial art they used as the base for Batman's fighting style in Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy? Either way, you have my undivided attention.
Quite a few systems have adopted that very block though. I can name three just on top of my head and I have seen a few more I do not remember the name of.
Seth, you fill me with all the random martial arts knowledge that i can tell my friends about, who don't care about martial arts. Keep up the excellent work.
That must have been awesome. These are the types of guys you wanna train with. I myself have trained with Amit Himelstein from Israel, Very good at his craft of Krav maga.
Shout out to the Casey Jones reference 😊 If we ever see him again in a TMNT live-action movie, he BETTER use Keysi. With hockey stick, golf club, and baseball bats 🏒
Unfortunately, Casey Jones from TMNT live action died in prison after years working as an undercover cop in Chicago P.D. and getting arrested for the murder of the man who killed his friend's son.
Thanks for highlighting Keysi and Sifu Alan. I never understood why people make fun of KFM and tell you it "does not work" just cause it was used in a few movies. I wish I could train KFM nut the next gym that trains KFM is abou 200 miles away
Alan Baker is a unit. His Training and methods are incredible! Would love to master this style, mix it with my krav Maga & Muay Thai. This stuff looks amazing.💯💪🏻🇬🇧
I've heard about this system for years since trying (and failing due to how unrealistic it was) to read those Jack Reacher books but this is the 1st time I've seen it like this. I think I saw some videos in the '90s or something but now I wanna try this system. This looks like a great fighting system and I need to know more about it.
It’s made up. If you practice boxing or any legitimate fighting style, your learn the (few) parts that are real and work. No sane fighter (or any fighter for that matter) gives up his ribs and abdomen like this. This is Dillman-quality bullshido
I can see the value of the system in certain limited applications, such as fighting in confined spaces, however if I can avoid letting my attacker get close to me to begin with (teeps/push kicks, leg kicks, footwork etc.) I'll take that option. I think KFM would be great to incorporate into other training methods i.e. Muay Thai, MMA etc. as it gives you good tools to use in a space where you don't have room for kicks or grappling. Another great vid Seth! Oos!
Conceptually that makes sense but it leaves out two specific things, if you are striking to keep the person at distance it means you likely haven't been attacked yet and should be looking to deescalate/escape or that you are purposefully choosing to engage in a fight. Not every instance will fall into one of those two but most will. Legally striking first is a mixed bag, some states and countries will recognize it as legitimate but many will require you to have been attacked before you can claim self defense.
Why not just always practice both equally? Most Fighters that prefer range, lack close combat, and vice versa. Just absorb everything, and use the tools when they're required. That's the mentality of a Martial artist.
@@suhdoekin8998There is a statement a response or a condition which the name escapes me just now but it is when people have too many options due to their extensive knowledge through training. It states the brain can actually be overwhelmed by choice and it causes a delay and a kinda reset because it can’t act on one definitive outcome to approve. If i remember i’ll call a meeting (keep your pagers on) 😂
Man - i've been big on Keysi for YEARS! It has a huge amount of hype a couple of decades ago, and then seemed to disappear! Glad to see it's still a thing, because it seems totally great
@@nicholascalin5396 oh yeah I read it as sparring, but still, if you're doing drills you do drills for the torso too, it's the most important thing after your head
To be honest, I had my pre-judgements about Keysi, but this video made me understand it better and see, that it is not so much different in the base from my approach on what selfdefense is about. Thanks, Sensei Seth for keeping me open-minded.
Yeah man. Sifu Alan Baker is one intense dude! Awesome teacher as well. I really like this fighting/self defense style. It seems very fluid. It also looks like it takes advantage of our very natural movements and reflexes.
The only guard I use in a fight is the high guard. I have seen a BUNCH of fights caught on cctv and phones, and not once did I see people going for a body punch, I myself have never even been punched in the body in the real fight. In a fight 99.9% of attacks are to the head. Dave LeDuc does a ram attack he calls The Bull, it's brutal af when you do it with your elbows sticking out. You could even doing it in a cross guard style position, ducking under punches, and ramming them in the ribs with your elbows. I had this happen during a sparring match with my buddy, and I heard my ribs pop when I got hit, thank god it wasn't enough for a fracture, but it instantly hurt like a sob, and my ribs were in a lot of pain for days afterward, good times.
@@Hunter12365 Is it? I guess its just messy fighting sometimes, but Batman rarely gets cornered like this or uses a guard like this. He literally just takes blows and let his suit absorb most of the force. What we saw here from Keysi is basicly a boxing guard to protect your head. In reality it would not prevent any attacks to the body or below. Even a single trained boxer would give you a liver punch of doom if you keep a guard like that. Most martial artist would just destroy your leg with a single kick while your focus is somewhere else. If three people attack a man like that no chance in hell his angry staring will help him to win that fight. You simply cannot fight of 3 man attacking you at the same time. I like the instructor and his attitude and I do think its effective, but I think there are better techniques for self defense. All revolve around avoiding to get in a situation like this and give you enough time to RUN.
Great to add to your kit! every martial arts has its strengths and weaknesses, learn all the strengths for yourself, andall the weaknesses against your opponent!
A solid defense that can quickly convert to the offensive I can see with further training and experience you can create and control situations like the instructor said a will to survive but also a willingness to fight is imperative
I'm interested to see how this style deals with body shots and knees as Alan implies at 11:57 "we haven't trained the whole body" , I reckon kicks probably wouldn't be used because of the range, but the body is so open in the guard he taught, even if body punches would open the head knees are still a viable option, and despite the sturdiness of the stance if you push the attacker back, counter-attacking getting hit with a knee is still getting hit with a knee
@@RealChickenNuggie I'm aware, just how much of an oversight would it be if the entire martial art style had no techniques for body defence, even if 99 people out of 100 throw punches to head, that gut punch will still be a real gut punch, and once they realise you're only blocking your head someone's gonna for the body
When I first saw Keysi back in the Dark Knight days, I thought it looked cool but I really thought some of the mechanics were awkward and I would get too dizzy trying to fight like that. However, now that I am actually martial arts practitioner (mostly FMA), and I have gotten into panantukan lately, I can see this being useful. Also, seeing Kevin, and now you taking this on as worthwhile to explore, along with you giving examples of very close quarter fighting in a hallway, I am even more starting to like the concepts of this system. I have been trying to get into a lot of empty hand FMA lately because I wanted to train close quarter fighting on the Chicago CTA trains for example. I live in Chicago and I have been avoiding trains because of the amount of people who have taunted and harassed me at this point and even threw feint punches at my face. Where I'm moving to, I am going to have to take the train more often, so this will be something I will try to integrate into my small group of martial arts friends and our weekly training. I can see this being very helpful when it comes to executing destructions if someone starts punching at my face on the train. I guess if Keysi was pure bs, it would have vanished a long time ago, but it's only become more of a thing.
Question, have you used Keysi in sparring with some success against different opponents? I'd like to know the extent that this martial art can be integrated into other styles.
@@nkyfong Somewhat. I have found it most practice for entries, like it gives me more confidence to not get hit as I move in for a body shot or a hook. I have not used it much as a primary standing sparring style, more like just for moving closer and for entries like I said. My stand-up style go-to is more boxing/filipino boxing until things get more complicated like we put a weapon in play, or we allow for takedowns and going into groundfighting. I can see Keysi being good too to use as a "safer" way to use my elbow destructions. Keysi as an entry tactic has been good for me getting in close to do a takedown too. Like I said in my OP, I get too dizzy in the movements, so I personally can't do Keysi as my main style even if I wanted to.
I have a little trick to shake and grip a set of keys so one or two keys always poke out in a dagger grip. If you just let the lose and then squeeze there will always be at least one key coming out of a dagger grip. One time I had a big old drunk crazy person attack me as I was walking with my keys and I did the shake and drag and stared the guy in the face with a pretty light blow and the guy just wilted and collapsed He was looking around but seemed unable to move around. I just walked the rest of the way to my car and left. There was no blood I cold see it was just a poke. I don't recommend using keys to beat attackers but the one lesson is that a weapon of any sort amplifies your ability to incapacitate an attacker. The advantage that any kind of object can give you is huge. May not work against a pro but in this case it worked against a big drunk crazy dude and took little effort. I didn-t expect it would have such an effect as to end the situation. When it comes to knives in the old days during trench warfare and using knives in confined areas with heavily dressed or armored enemies stabs to the face would incapacitate not kill but would take all the fight out of someone. Not slashing but stabbing. It is a lost technique most people don't consider. It does not leave a huge scar and is not fatal and it stops your opponent immediately. It can be effective on the bony surfaces you don't have to be precise.
Seems like a really great tool to bridge the gap between grappling and striking, either to cover yourself as you push in for a takedown, or to make space and get someone off of you so you have room to throw a punch/kick.
Something I noticed while training this was that it tends to keep your body tense, you can't really relax when your arms are in tight guard. At the same time the guard has a really sturdy basis, best used imo. mixed with other martial arts.
I believe the whole intention is in and out quickly and concisely. Which is why tension is important. It makes you consider your best option more quickly and leaves room for you to always be ready to move in any direction.
Relaxation is a commodity you only have when you know there is a time limit or help on the way or when you can confidently defend yourself from any threat.
Never heard the mines story about Justo Dieguez (?). I thought he originated the method after years of being a bouncer; or, at least, that's what I recall from the first documentary/interview he put on youtube.
the thing is that you cant tell if his system is effective since there is no sparring. A few things he showed will probably work because you see similar stuff in Muay Thai/MMA 4oz gloves. Blocking with forearms is not a new concept and elbow strikes arent either.
I think the style is meant to be used against someone swinging with no tecnique not against trained fighters, so it makes sense in this context, but yeah not ideal against somene with boxing or muay thai experience
I had a friend that trained in Keysi MMA in Lancaster NY back in my 20s we gymed together when he would come back to NJ to our school campus. I was training in boxing and he showed me a few things particularly Keysi ground and pound is brutal as hell. They are effectively guarded and rained hammer fists and elbows right in the pocket with a straight b-line that almost feels wing chun like. It’s overwhelming to be mounted by a Keysi fighter. But one of the greatest takeaways from my sparring with him was his philosophy of “breaking the link”. He said never allow someone to hold on you no matter how fearful you are of being struck break the hold by attacking the link. Whether it be a hand holding you are arm it’s an exposed part of your opponents body that’s closest to you…attack it. That really stuck with me.
They do something similar in some forms of Silat. They initially teach you to block by having your hands together, as if in prayer, and using that frame to block or deliver elbows. Then separate your hands so you can use one arm/elbow to defend while the other can strike. Works in a similar way, but with more emphasis on being able to use one hand for attacking.
My old Muay Thai coach was dabbling with this 15 or so years ago. He was an absolute monster in certain situations. I genuinely thought and still think elements of it will work so well in MMA, I think the element that only holds it back from working is using it in a sparring environment to hone it and get it up to speed for competition. Still use the thinking man when on the ground occasionally, really catches people off when I start shrimping and throw a strike as opposed to hunting for control or submissions.
Best and most effectiv I ever tryed out in my last 55 jears of MA, thank you so much, to bad that I live in noth Germany now, but I watch all the Vid‘s and learn from there on 😅
Skallagrim has a coulpe of videos about Keysi. If I remember correctly, you earn rubber band instead of belt, and you can use it to strap some weapon to your hand...
I kind of stumbled into a similar technique from training rope dart which uses tons of elbow wraps. It created a habit of throwing up elbows just not with the hands on head.
I had the privilege of trading with Allen and Andy in Dallas once. They were both down to earth and intense at the same time. It was my first and only time I got to train with this incredible art. Everyone that I trained with made me feel very welcome as they were teaching me ,( over the course of the day), to fight like the devil was trying to steal my child from me. Great guys
Or just a teep or leg kick in most situations If you wanna do any of this, then you gotta get REAL close to your opponennt for these things to not happen. But now you'll get them clinch you, throwing knees, taking you dowm. So you'l have to learn all that as well
That's what I'd like to know. Because those fighter who focused on their kick (either Muay Thai, Taekwondo, Taido, Capoeira, and co) when they see that juicy rib cage was unguarded would be like.... Yumm~
he does say though at the beginning that they explicitly did not train for body shots during the video. Looking how the guy moves, his basic stance is more bent forward kinda like a shrimp while varying height with the guard and head. So it would be harder to find a specific spot. Granted, this looks like a good martial art for brawls more than a good one for competition. I guess it has potential though.
Yeah but it’s clearly leaning toward self defence in a scrap rather than competitive combat. We tend to revert to our discipline, spot the openings we know and overlook what isn’t familiar. I can’t say any of this blows me away either but that guard is fascinating none the less.
I got my start in martial arts from a Jiujitsu school that worked on a modified Gracie Jiujitsu mindset. This type of guard was one of the first things I was taught. Most common technique was to use that "bump" into a bodylock takedown!
Keysi looks a lot like Bajiquan especially with getting up close and personal, breaking past the foe's guard, and taking them down with a decisive strike
Errrrr….. back on ya? I’ve been out the back of an abandoned train station in the middle of the night fighting full contact when it was keysi. Bajiquan is ethereal nonsense with no hooks in reality.
@@jordantaylor260 Actually it's one of the few traditional Chinese martial-arts style to be semi realistic in application and approach. It was also tested in real life for quite a while as opposed to this wanna be military self defences systema-esk non sense. It's not everyone's cup of tea because most westerners don't understand the approach behind CMA and now a days they're mostly just dance moves sadly but, they indeed do work and have worked for some time now. Around 300+years in Baji's case I believe.
@@RenBaiHu what does “semi” realistic mean? You’re halfway to winning a fight? Now don’t get me wrong. I love the traditional arts. Athletic, interesting, mentally challenging. But don’t tell me they work in a brutal modern setting. They don’t. Why is anyone still having this debate? It’s been proven, decided. You’re happy to insult keysi/dl and say it’s for “clowns”. But you’re upset about a supposed insult in reverse. I know for a fact Baijiquan doesn’t work, I invited several practitioners to spar me. They never landed one shot, and seemed lost and confused in a full contact setting. But I still respect the art. But Your comment is very disrespectful, backed up with zero practical evidence.
One of those from Craig Douglas is called the "default position". You can only be uppercutted as far as strikes to the face but it won't knock you out allegedly because you're holding the back of your head, keeping you from rattling your noodle
it's honestly kind of goofy. no pressure testing either. it's kind of funny to hear seth act like alan is scary when as a very competent striker he could likely beat him up easily
@@jacobharris954 here to learn how to fight, i.e. beat people up. my point is it's like a hedge fund manager going to a crypto scammer for financial advice what makes me think seth could beat him is that keysi has no sparring, meaning they never put their skills to the test, and the system itself is just bad. the guard prevents counterpunching when slipping, it protects the forehead which doesn't actually need to be protected (if you look at bareknuckle sports it never is, people even block with the top of their forehead to try to break the opponent's hands), and it actually makes slipping harder b/c 1) having forearms angled out like that means you have to slip more in order to get out of the way of punches, and it may even catch a punch in the centre of the guard as your slipping and direct it towards your face. plus, the guard leaves you super open for uppercuts, bodyshots, and takedowns.
That's the thing about Brazilian Jujutsu and let me preface this by saying I am NOT putting it down. Hands down, "one on one", best Martial art around. Multiple attackers? On the ground is not where you wanna be. It is so one on one focused your attacker's friends are kicking the shit out of you while you are tunneled in on your opponent. I had the privilege of training with Renzo Gracie a few times and he made me realize I was a little weak in ground fighting. Let me tell you, I was a bouncer a few times and I've seen ground fighting go bad REALLY fast with multiple attackers. Loved this video. This was the martial arts system used in the Dark Knight Batman trilogy. Love this system, it's smart, aggressive "to the point" defense and if you have ever even accidentally punched the tip of someone's elbow, you know it's not something you quickly forget.
The shield move is very typical in Hung Sing Choy Li Fat Kung Fu style. We actually do it at the start of each form in the style. Is nice to see all the possible application in street scenarios!
I heard their arguments there is a way to defend by crouching down on your guard but it's risky. They are right that protecting the head is the most important thing, problem is irl (without boxing gloves) it's hard to protect both the head & the torso simultaneously. You gotta give up one. I rather prioritize head defense thats where my wrinkly flesh computer is at 🧠.
@@cdngravy844 This. You can train your abs to become sort of an armor but you cannot train your face, so its obvious what is more important when defending, its the BRAIN.
Arm Chair Violence did a lovely breakdown on why this "system"/martial art doesn't work or even make sense which I'll recommend but I'll still entertain the video.
that guy is full of copium , i doubt he even had a real fight , does not seem the guy to judge other martial arts , he is the type of guy that thinks that if you know boxing you gonna win a street fight , when you dont have the reflex to guard against hit with boxing stances, you need to also use the elbow for better chances
I think you can fight with most systems if you're a good fighter. But occasionally you get a system that so fundamentally is based off of non functional movement that is becomes a liability Say all you want about karate, wing chun, tkd They have footwork and guards and still work on punching and kicking My example of something thst could fundamentally ruin your fighting abilities is normally aikido but I have to add keysi to my list Not just from this video but I have seen full instructional content videos thst they used to sell This is based on a last minute parry and confined shell which not only leaves you open to simple clinch and grappling but even pummeling from agressive opponents Keysi works from drills and light sparring because its about being more agressive with your defence But defence isn't agressive so you need a passive offender to counter This isn't to say that keysi has nothing of value but what they do have is basics of most combative or aggressive styles Even systema and krav maga which hold their own problems But after the combative concepts and environmental awareness it looks good when you have tough manly guys who could probably defend themselves without martial arts training talking about fighting five guys and hard elbows and for the streets but it's illusion and cool factor not practicality
I don't mean to hate on the system. Obviously good knowledgeable people and as usual seth doing a great job at showing the best of a system and how it can help and be useful. But just seen a lot of keysi recently and this is what I think of it
I think if you are a good grappler but an untrained striker then this could benefit you. You overprotect the head to prevent knockouts and invite close-quarters contact, which will be to your advantage as you transition to grappling them. Yes, learning Muay Thai or boxing will be better, but this is much quicker and easier to learn and could at least partially shore up a grappler's weak points.
I agree. Even aikido techniques can work!! (They are part of other arts that DO work, after all) but their training methods and overall mentality is just too much fantasy. I agree, you definitely are a smart person imo
Alan (former coach of mine) has less quit than sonnen and more sense than hughes. So in my opinion, better than either (unless maybe you're making a UFC run in the earlier 00's.)
@@Jay-ho9io I made no chronological connection to a version of them and since you claim a personal connection to the man i defer to your assessment of the mans qualities given i have only respect and admiration for the 3 mens skills. 🫡😂👍🏼
Looks very odd but then again I already incorporate icy mikes shield bashing elbow guard thing in my drills. And that high guard / elbow blocking defense. This almost seems like a Philly shell type defense but for the streets.
I trained in this for 3 years and loved every second of it, unfortunately I smashed my knee in training one christmas with my instructor, he felt responsible and stopped training in it, I was in plaster for three months and off work for seven, so the system works. I would have liked to have carried on but my instructor went back to teaching kickboxing, so that ended my training in k.f.m. I met Andy and justo at a seminar they ran back in the day when they just got recognised by the movie giants and there system was used in the batman movie, batman begins, the seminar was held in Hull it was awsome, I will always cherish those memories.
This is nice and all, but what about when you have to protect something lower than your upper body which appears to be completely open almost entirely in this video? It's like you're just hoping that they'll always attack you where you want to be attacked.
One thing I've always wondered about systems/styles like Keysi and 52 Blocks that rely on a high guard and gripping your own head is what to do when someone throws a body shot? I understand more often than not an attacker is gonna go for your head, but a punch to the gut or the ribs isn't ever out of the question
Well, this looks like a good self defense system against thugs, but not a sport fighting thai boxer. You're gonna eat a massive roundhouse to the liver with that guard. Very few street goons are going to try that however.
@@nunninkav I don’t think I’ve ever seen a street fight on RUclips where someone didn’t eventually try to pick the other guy up and slam them. We’re giving street goons too little credit.
I remember Kacey Jones from the Ninja Turtles, he was very hardcore & looked like a metal band guy on roids, he was a parody on dark past super-heroes like Batman, a wrathful edgelord just like when Sean Strickland was a young lad.
From what I've gathered, kfm is a very flawed system. But I think it would be great for exercise, like tae Bo for guys. Put on your cargo shorts and black T-shirt, play some death metal, and pretend you're Batman or Jack Reacher. At the very least, all that twisting around should be great for the abs
If there is one thing I have learned from watching Seth is that every martial art has something to offer. Granted self defense situations are probably going to be against people who don't know how to fight, but if your goal is to be as effective as possible, it seem like it makes sense to try and learn as much as you can so you can take what's useful or what works best for you and adapt it to any situation.
You can say that about "every" martial art. If you're a Nak Muay and you just happen to accidentially piss off a drunken Khalil Rountree at a bar you're probably not gonna wake up! lol
@@brunopaler18Can say the same about Jujitsu and Muay Thai. Heck, even sumo wrestling even gives a decent grappling base to shove most people into something hard and take the fight out of them.
@@brunopaler18 True if you are competing, and then only if you're good at it! lol You can practice boxing, bjj or any "effective" martial art and still get destroyed just simply because the opponent is a better fighter or you're not good at it. Besides, unless you intend to be a fighter there is little chance you need anything other than basic self defense. Random crap starters in public will fold the moment you jab them in the nose
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Lee Morrison fighting method Urban Combatives is very similar but better than Keysi I think
At the end, @SenseiSeth, you said you kind of liked especially the guard: maybe then try „Crazy Monkey Defense“ by Coach Rodney King, which is great for stand up punch protection, too, even bareknuckle!
Also there you have kind of a „ram“ and cover, too , the 3-point Cover for example (there are plenty of that covers for cover, crash, counter to clinch or to ride the storm of some punches to then engage to clinch, or to disengage, depending on styles, systems and instructors: Craig Douglas: default cover, ISR Matrix: Helmet/ Cover, Gracie Jiu Jitsu „rhino block“ to headcover to getting to clinch safely, etc, etc….
can you make a video of you taking a judo class again or tournament because I enjoyed it and everyone I showed it to liked it
@@spookyninja4098Urban Combatives is awesome. Michiel Mulder is a fantastic teacher. Combining both systems would be very interesting. Whatcha think?
Hi sensei Seth. I love your videos but i feel like you forgot a big martial art that started in France. I'm talking about parkour! I was always curious if learning and mastering parkour was good for self defense as it teaches you to get out of bad situations much more better than the average, allowing you to take even the most unlikely of scenarios and make them seem survivable. Thanks for reading, big fan ❤
"Give me a good bump."
I took a deep breath and did as I was told, crashing forward into Alan's barrel shaped chest, albeit as gently and politely as I could.
Alan was patient and measured, coaxing me to hit him, "Yeah... a little more."
I increased the pace, driving myself into Alan's body several more times, until finally he was forced back a few steps.
I felt like I was on top of the world, "Whoa..."
"Right! That's the ram attack."
"I like that..."
We continued... colliding with one another again and again. With my cheeks aching from the wide grin on my face and my hair a disheveled mess, I reveled in the moment. Alan expertly timed his breathing and balance to coincide with mine. I was free to give him everything I had. There were no expectations... so there could be no mistakes. No matter how hard I went, I couldn't hurt him. I felt free. I felt safe. I felt like I could do anything. I felt like I could say anything.
"You're very sturdy..."
That's coming out of fucking left field
Reading homoerotic smut written by Icy Mike in the comments section of a video was not on my 2024 bingo card.
You have too much time on your hands 🤣
That's something straight out of some anime :D
This Chat GPT text is getting out hand
Is this the martial art they used as the base for Batman's fighting style in Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy? Either way, you have my undivided attention.
It is indeed
@MatthewSedgley I always forget its name, but I immediately recognized the "hair combing" blocks and elbow series.
Yeah
Quite a few systems have adopted that very block though. I can name three just on top of my head and I have seen a few more I do not remember the name of.
@@TheElbowMerchant I remember it by the Batman punch to the hamstring in the penthouse fight
Seth, you fill me with all the random martial arts knowledge that i can tell my friends about, who don't care about martial arts. Keep up the excellent work.
Cool to see an MMA on Point contributer in Sensei Seth's comment section 👌
@@TheElbowMerchant Love me some Sensei seth!
Max, good to see you here!
I trained with Alan in Atlanta briefly before I moved away. That man is a MONSTER. I mean that as the highest possible compliment.
That is the type of guy that can make ANY martial art work.
That must have been awesome. These are the types of guys you wanna train with. I myself have trained with Amit Himelstein from Israel, Very good at his craft of Krav maga.
Shout out to the Casey Jones reference 😊 If we ever see him again in a TMNT live-action movie, he BETTER use Keysi. With hockey stick, golf club, and baseball bats 🏒
This is the way.
A José Canseco bat!?! Tell me you didn't pay money for this!
As a Casey of the two Casey Jones I know of the TMNT one was always my favorite.
Unfortunately, Casey Jones from TMNT live action died in prison after years working as an undercover cop in Chicago P.D. and getting arrested for the murder of the man who killed his friend's son.
Tom Cruise uses this in his first Reacher movie.
Very cool.
Thanks for the video.
He also uses it in Mission Impossible 3.
Reacher talked about this in the tv show too when he ran into the venezualian hitmen.
also Christian Bale in The Dark Knight Trilogy
so muay thai
Having known Alan for many years, he is what we commonly refer to as “the man”
💯💯💯💯
Thanks for highlighting Keysi and Sifu Alan. I never understood why people make fun of KFM and tell you it "does not work" just cause it was used in a few movies. I wish I could train KFM nut the next gym that trains KFM is abou 200 miles away
Alan Baker is a unit. His Training and methods are incredible! Would love to master this style, mix it with my krav Maga & Muay Thai. This stuff looks amazing.💯💪🏻🇬🇧
Invite this guy to the next self defense showdown
I've heard about this system for years since trying (and failing due to how unrealistic it was) to read those Jack Reacher books but this is the 1st time I've seen it like this. I think I saw some videos in the '90s or something but now I wanna try this system. This looks like a great fighting system and I need to know more about it.
never heard of this martial art until now, hope to see more of this.
that pfp caught me off guard lmao
I remember it was used in the Dark Knight trilogy and the Tom Cruise Jack Reacher movie but it looks like it’s coming back.
It’s made up. If you practice boxing or any legitimate fighting style, your learn the (few) parts that are real and work. No sane fighter (or any fighter for that matter) gives up his ribs and abdomen like this. This is Dillman-quality bullshido
It's like the style from the dark knight movies
@@Hyde0991actually, in jack reacher, they use defence lab, a method created by Andy Norman, co-creator of KFM
I can see the value of the system in certain limited applications, such as fighting in confined spaces, however if I can avoid letting my attacker get close to me to begin with (teeps/push kicks, leg kicks, footwork etc.) I'll take that option. I think KFM would be great to incorporate into other training methods i.e. Muay Thai, MMA etc. as it gives you good tools to use in a space where you don't have room for kicks or grappling. Another great vid Seth! Oos!
Conceptually that makes sense but it leaves out two specific things, if you are striking to keep the person at distance it means you likely haven't been attacked yet and should be looking to deescalate/escape or that you are purposefully choosing to engage in a fight. Not every instance will fall into one of those two but most will. Legally striking first is a mixed bag, some states and countries will recognize it as legitimate but many will require you to have been attacked before you can claim self defense.
Why not just always practice both equally? Most Fighters that prefer range, lack close combat, and vice versa. Just absorb everything, and use the tools when they're required. That's the mentality of a Martial artist.
This isn’t for ring cage or agreed upon fights.
This is when you have unintentionally being cornered or surrounded.
@@suhdoekin8998There is a statement a response or a condition which the name escapes me just now but it is when people have too many options due to their extensive knowledge through training.
It states the brain can actually be overwhelmed by choice and it causes a delay and a kinda reset because it can’t act on one definitive outcome to approve.
If i remember i’ll call a meeting (keep your pagers on) 😂
Run some drills where a decent grappler tries to close distance and you try to maintain it with only striking.
Man - i've been big on Keysi for YEARS! It has a huge amount of hype a couple of decades ago, and then seemed to disappear! Glad to see it's still a thing, because it seems totally great
I had a friend of mine from highschool that practiced Keysi, my boxing background was just unbelievably useless when doing drills with him
It's hard to punch through that elbow shell defense.
@@watamuthabody shots
how did he do against body shots?
@@excaliburturkey8208 they probably didn't do body shots because they were doing their "drills" instead of sparring.
@@nicholascalin5396 oh yeah I read it as sparring, but still, if you're doing drills you do drills for the torso too, it's the most important thing after your head
To be honest, I had my pre-judgements about Keysi, but this video made me understand it better and see, that it is not so much different in the base from my approach on what selfdefense is about. Thanks, Sensei Seth for keeping me open-minded.
Alan Baker was a fucking bear in his past life. His stance, his eyes, his body type, nothing will convince me otherwise
Yeah man. Sifu Alan Baker is one intense dude! Awesome teacher as well. I really like this fighting/self defense style. It seems very fluid. It also looks like it takes advantage of our very natural movements and reflexes.
The guard is very similar to what we do in Modo Mitis with our closed offensive stance. It isn't exactly the same but about 90% similar.
The only guard I use in a fight is the high guard. I have seen a BUNCH of fights caught on cctv and phones, and not once did I see people going for a body punch, I myself have never even been punched in the body in the real fight. In a fight 99.9% of attacks are to the head.
Dave LeDuc does a ram attack he calls The Bull, it's brutal af when you do it with your elbows sticking out. You could even doing it in a cross guard style position, ducking under punches, and ramming them in the ribs with your elbows.
I had this happen during a sparring match with my buddy, and I heard my ribs pop when I got hit, thank god it wasn't enough for a fracture, but it instantly hurt like a sob, and my ribs were in a lot of pain for days afterward, good times.
Batman's fighting style ❤😋😋
Yeah I love those fictional concepts. So real.
@@gregory4154 jeje, no. I meant that in the cristopher nolan batman trilogy, the fighting style of batman in those movies is keysi 🤪
@@Hunter12365 Is it? I guess its just messy fighting sometimes, but Batman rarely gets cornered like this or uses a guard like this. He literally just takes blows and let his suit absorb most of the force. What we saw here from Keysi is basicly a boxing guard to protect your head. In reality it would not prevent any attacks to the body or below. Even a single trained boxer would give you a liver punch of doom if you keep a guard like that. Most martial artist would just destroy your leg with a single kick while your focus is somewhere else. If three people attack a man like that no chance in hell his angry staring will help him to win that fight. You simply cannot fight of 3 man attacking you at the same time.
I like the instructor and his attitude and I do think its effective, but I think there are better techniques for self defense. All revolve around avoiding to get in a situation like this and give you enough time to RUN.
That's why he looks so goofy.
@@nostalji93I don’t know, maybe you can.
Hey Seth. When the next self defense championship comes by, you should enter with Keysi knowledge and training. As well as sumo and sanda.
Great to add to your kit! every martial arts has its strengths and weaknesses, learn all the strengths for yourself, andall the weaknesses against your opponent!
A solid defense that can quickly convert to the offensive
I can see with further training and experience
you can create and control situations
like the instructor said a will to survive
but also a willingness to fight is imperative
I'm interested to see how this style deals with body shots and knees as Alan implies at 11:57 "we haven't trained the whole body" , I reckon kicks probably wouldn't be used because of the range, but the body is so open in the guard he taught, even if body punches would open the head knees are still a viable option, and despite the sturdiness of the stance if you push the attacker back, counter-attacking getting hit with a knee is still getting hit with a knee
Keysi is a self-defence martial art and most untrained fighters only throw punches to the head, nothing else
@@RealChickenNuggie I'm aware, just how much of an oversight would it be if the entire martial art style had no techniques for body defence, even if 99 people out of 100 throw punches to head, that gut punch will still be a real gut punch, and once they realise you're only blocking your head someone's gonna for the body
When I first saw Keysi back in the Dark Knight days, I thought it looked cool but I really thought some of the mechanics were awkward and I would get too dizzy trying to fight like that. However, now that I am actually martial arts practitioner (mostly FMA), and I have gotten into panantukan lately, I can see this being useful. Also, seeing Kevin, and now you taking this on as worthwhile to explore, along with you giving examples of very close quarter fighting in a hallway, I am even more starting to like the concepts of this system. I have been trying to get into a lot of empty hand FMA lately because I wanted to train close quarter fighting on the Chicago CTA trains for example. I live in Chicago and I have been avoiding trains because of the amount of people who have taunted and harassed me at this point and even threw feint punches at my face. Where I'm moving to, I am going to have to take the train more often, so this will be something I will try to integrate into my small group of martial arts friends and our weekly training. I can see this being very helpful when it comes to executing destructions if someone starts punching at my face on the train. I guess if Keysi was pure bs, it would have vanished a long time ago, but it's only become more of a thing.
Question, have you used Keysi in sparring with some success against different opponents? I'd like to know the extent that this martial art can be integrated into other styles.
@@nkyfong Somewhat. I have found it most practice for entries, like it gives me more confidence to not get hit as I move in for a body shot or a hook. I have not used it much as a primary standing sparring style, more like just for moving closer and for entries like I said. My stand-up style go-to is more boxing/filipino boxing until things get more complicated like we put a weapon in play, or we allow for takedowns and going into groundfighting. I can see Keysi being good too to use as a "safer" way to use my elbow destructions. Keysi as an entry tactic has been good for me getting in close to do a takedown too. Like I said in my OP, I get too dizzy in the movements, so I personally can't do Keysi as my main style even if I wanted to.
The constant moving of the hands on the head going back and forth looks like if barbers had a secret martial arts against angry customers
I was really hoping this was going to be about self defense where you hold your keys between your knuckles and try to poke the other guy in the eye.
I have a little trick to shake and grip a set of keys so one or two keys always poke out in a dagger grip. If you just let the lose and then squeeze there will always be at least one key coming out of a dagger grip. One time I had a big old drunk crazy person attack me as I was walking with my keys and I did the shake and drag and stared the guy in the face with a pretty light blow and the guy just wilted and collapsed He was looking around but seemed unable to move around. I just walked the rest of the way to my car and left. There was no blood I cold see it was just a poke. I don't recommend using keys to beat attackers but the one lesson is that a weapon of any sort amplifies your ability to incapacitate an attacker. The advantage that any kind of object can give you is huge. May not work against a pro but in this case it worked against a big drunk crazy dude and took little effort. I didn-t expect it would have such an effect as to end the situation. When it comes to knives in the old days during trench warfare and using knives in confined areas with heavily dressed or armored enemies stabs to the face would incapacitate not kill but would take all the fight out of someone. Not slashing but stabbing. It is a lost technique most people don't consider. It does not leave a huge scar and is not fatal and it stops your opponent immediately. It can be effective on the bony surfaces you don't have to be precise.
The four-man box is the most realistic real-world training I've ever seen.
Seems like a really great tool to bridge the gap between grappling and striking, either to cover yourself as you push in for a takedown, or to make space and get someone off of you so you have room to throw a punch/kick.
Seth, if you liked Keysi then you'd love a style called 52 Blocks🔥
Was thinking the same. Tho I imagine 52 would be more versatile, since it has more guard positions and attacks
52 blocks is just prison BS that’s been mixed with other stuff and the founder is a dbag
The original 52 blocks from filipino Panantukan is more or less the parent art of Keysi.
I was looking for someone to mention 52. Surprised more people haven't mentioned it.
I'd love to see a video with Diallo Frazier or Lyte Burly
@@alricmetalheart4125 no both different arts
Tritac martial arts combines kfm with muai thai and grappling. A great youtube channel that should be checked out.
Something I noticed while training this was that it tends to keep your body tense, you can't really relax when your arms are in tight guard. At the same time the guard has a really sturdy basis, best used imo. mixed with other martial arts.
I believe the whole intention is in and out quickly and concisely. Which is why tension is important. It makes you consider your best option more quickly and leaves room for you to always be ready to move in any direction.
Relaxation is a commodity you only have when you know there is a time limit or help on the way or when you can confidently defend yourself from any threat.
Never heard the mines story about Justo Dieguez (?). I thought he originated the method after years of being a bouncer; or, at least, that's what I recall from the first documentary/interview he put on youtube.
Seth learning the basics of cqc
what a thrill
CONSECUTIVE C! Q! C!
Lol, as if
@@help_27 When silence meets darknessssss through the nightttttttt
the thing is that you cant tell if his system is effective since there is no sparring. A few things he showed will probably work because you see similar stuff in Muay Thai/MMA 4oz gloves. Blocking with forearms is not a new concept and elbow strikes arent either.
the thing is that such a high guard will leave your liver open for grabs to literally anyone. one switch kick can end you with that guard
I think the style is meant to be used against someone swinging with no tecnique not against trained fighters, so it makes sense in this context, but yeah not ideal against somene with boxing or muay thai experience
I think concepts could be good as a good augmentation to what you already have
For sure. This is better than a usual MMA style for the street. I mean there's actually top guys who I'd favour less in the street.
I had a friend that trained in Keysi MMA in Lancaster NY back in my 20s we gymed together when he would come back to NJ to our school campus. I was training in boxing and he showed me a few things particularly Keysi ground and pound is brutal as hell. They are effectively guarded and rained hammer fists and elbows right in the pocket with a straight b-line that almost feels wing chun like. It’s overwhelming to be mounted by a Keysi fighter. But one of the greatest takeaways from my sparring with him was his philosophy of “breaking the link”. He said never allow someone to hold on you no matter how fearful you are of being struck break the hold by attacking the link. Whether it be a hand holding you are arm it’s an exposed part of your opponents body that’s closest to you…attack it. That really stuck with me.
I don't know about wig but it's definitely manga protagonist hair.
Only in a "school delinquents" manga . . .
It's very similar to our Krav Maga. We do the same blocking and eblow techniques!
Casey Jones 🏑👺 (There's no hockey mask emoji...) RIP
Didn't his mask kinda look like skull? I think that woul do 🏒💀
@@bocahcebol2815 NOICE! Yes 100% 🐢 Cowabunga!
They do something similar in some forms of Silat. They initially teach you to block by having your hands together, as if in prayer, and using that frame to block or deliver elbows. Then separate your hands so you can use one arm/elbow to defend while the other can strike. Works in a similar way, but with more emphasis on being able to use one hand for attacking.
My old Muay Thai coach was dabbling with this 15 or so years ago. He was an absolute monster in certain situations. I genuinely thought and still think elements of it will work so well in MMA, I think the element that only holds it back from working is using it in a sparring environment to hone it and get it up to speed for competition. Still use the thinking man when on the ground occasionally, really catches people off when I start shrimping and throw a strike as opposed to hunting for control or submissions.
Supplemental art perhaps?
They spar differntly
Best and most effectiv I ever tryed out in my last 55 jears of MA, thank you so much, to bad that I live in noth Germany now, but I watch all the Vid‘s and learn from there on 😅
So... Seth wears a wig? LOL Man, this is Icy Mike's style all the way!!!
Buster Reeves was training in KFM prior to starting on Batman Begins and introduced everyone on the film to the system
You should try shuai jiao next!!!
Better instructor than I had, which is sad because I really loved training Keysi
Another good one! Keysi is awesome and Alan is doing a great job building it up in the States.
Skallagrim has a coulpe of videos about Keysi.
If I remember correctly, you earn rubber band instead of belt, and you can use it to strap some weapon to your hand...
You should go into street beefs and try all your techniques out from all these martial arts would be cool to watch
He will probably default to muay thai, sumo and karate. Also it's a dumb thing to ask of people. He can get hurt, duh
I saw Screech adopt this stance in Saved by the Bell. Maybe he would wrecked someone?
There he is! Kevin Lee!
I knew I recognise that wall from somewhere.
Cool vid Seth, I think that new hairstyle fits you well. ❤
Yeah he can make anyone look like Steven Seagal
I thought I recognized this guy, as soon as I saw Kevin Lee, I remembered where I'd seen him. He's pretty slick.
Phew this man can look intense
I kind of stumbled into a similar technique from training rope dart which uses tons of elbow wraps. It created a habit of throwing up elbows just not with the hands on head.
“You’re very sturdy”
Great stuff! Naihanchi/Tekki Shodan has a lot of these techniques encoded into it
6:34 seth just looking like he doing execution 😂
Sifu Baker is the real deal! I took bjj from him back in my 20’s . Dudes got like 12 black belts!
So now... to Kevin's channel! 😂
😂😂😂😂
I had the privilege of trading with Allen and Andy in Dallas once. They were both down to earth and intense at the same time. It was my first and only time I got to train with this incredible art. Everyone that I trained with made me feel very welcome as they were teaching me ,( over the course of the day), to fight like the devil was trying to steal my child from me. Great guys
I hesitated to click onto this video at first, but I’m so glad I did. This is so interesting. 道
Muay Thai guys just eyeballing that open liver for a sweet juicy kick 😂
Or just a teep or leg kick in most situations
If you wanna do any of this, then you gotta get REAL close to your opponennt for these things to not happen. But now you'll get them clinch you, throwing knees, taking you dowm. So you'l have to learn all that as well
Or any good striker / boxer. It's the first thing I thought when seeing it, that's a really exposed body
That's what I'd like to know. Because those fighter who focused on their kick (either Muay Thai, Taekwondo, Taido, Capoeira, and co) when they see that juicy rib cage was unguarded would be like.... Yumm~
he does say though at the beginning that they explicitly did not train for body shots during the video. Looking how the guy moves, his basic stance is more bent forward kinda like a shrimp while varying height with the guard and head. So it would be harder to find a specific spot. Granted, this looks like a good martial art for brawls more than a good one for competition. I guess it has potential though.
Yeah but it’s clearly leaning toward self defence in a scrap rather than competitive combat.
We tend to revert to our discipline, spot the openings we know and overlook what isn’t familiar.
I can’t say any of this blows me away either but that guard is fascinating none the less.
I got my start in martial arts from a Jiujitsu school that worked on a modified Gracie Jiujitsu mindset. This type of guard was one of the first things I was taught. Most common technique was to use that "bump" into a bodylock takedown!
Keysi looks a lot like Bajiquan
especially with getting up close and personal, breaking past the foe's guard, and taking them down with a decisive strike
Please don't insult Bajiquan like that. This stuff is for clowns.
Errrrr….. back on ya? I’ve been out the back of an abandoned train station in the middle of the night fighting full contact when it was keysi. Bajiquan is ethereal nonsense with no hooks in reality.
@@RenBaiHu Another similarity between keysi and Bajiquan!
@@jordantaylor260 Actually it's one of the few traditional Chinese martial-arts style to be semi realistic in application and approach. It was also tested in real life for quite a while as opposed to this wanna be military self defences systema-esk non sense.
It's not everyone's cup of tea because most westerners don't understand the approach behind CMA and now a days they're mostly just dance moves sadly but, they indeed do work and have worked for some time now. Around 300+years in Baji's case I believe.
@@RenBaiHu what does “semi” realistic mean? You’re halfway to winning a fight? Now don’t get me wrong. I love the traditional arts. Athletic, interesting, mentally challenging. But don’t tell me they work in a brutal modern setting. They don’t. Why is anyone still having this debate? It’s been proven, decided. You’re happy to insult keysi/dl and say it’s for “clowns”. But you’re upset about a supposed insult in reverse. I know for a fact Baijiquan doesn’t work, I invited several practitioners to spar me. They never landed one shot, and seemed lost and confused in a full contact setting. But I still respect the art. But Your comment is very disrespectful, backed up with zero practical evidence.
Seems uniquely vulnerable to both uppercuts and shovel hooks. Fairly aesthetic tho
I don't think that an untrained person would punch the body
Seth Upload = Good Fking Day
One of those from Craig Douglas is called the "default position". You can only be uppercutted as far as strikes to the face but it won't knock you out allegedly because you're holding the back of your head, keeping you from rattling your noodle
it's honestly kind of goofy. no pressure testing either. it's kind of funny to hear seth act like alan is scary when as a very competent striker he could likely beat him up easily
The problem with what you wrote Seth is here to learn,who cares about look , what makes you think Seth could beat him up
@@jacobharris954 here to learn how to fight, i.e. beat people up. my point is it's like a hedge fund manager going to a crypto scammer for financial advice
what makes me think seth could beat him is that keysi has no sparring, meaning they never put their skills to the test, and the system itself is just bad. the guard prevents counterpunching when slipping, it protects the forehead which doesn't actually need to be protected (if you look at bareknuckle sports it never is, people even block with the top of their forehead to try to break the opponent's hands), and it actually makes slipping harder b/c 1) having forearms angled out like that means you have to slip more in order to get out of the way of punches, and it may even catch a punch in the centre of the guard as your slipping and direct it towards your face. plus, the guard leaves you super open for uppercuts, bodyshots, and takedowns.
That's the thing about Brazilian Jujutsu and let me preface this by saying I am NOT putting it down. Hands down, "one on one", best Martial art around. Multiple attackers? On the ground is not where you wanna be. It is so one on one focused your attacker's friends are kicking the shit out of you while you are tunneled in on your opponent. I had the privilege of training with Renzo Gracie a few times and he made me realize I was a little weak in ground fighting. Let me tell you, I was a bouncer a few times and I've seen ground fighting go bad REALLY fast with multiple attackers. Loved this video. This was the martial arts system used in the Dark Knight Batman trilogy. Love this system, it's smart, aggressive "to the point" defense and if you have ever even accidentally punched the tip of someone's elbow, you know it's not something you quickly forget.
The Jack Reacher style
6:53 "It's like a party with no ladies"
Yea, we all felt that same vibe. You shoulda done this in June, that's the month to try new things.
When are you gonna do Pencak Silat
The shield move is very typical in Hung Sing Choy Li Fat Kung Fu style. We actually do it at the start of each form in the style. Is nice to see all the possible application in street scenarios!
Long time fan here, but I feel like Seth's really stepped up his narrative game.
What if they punch u in the stomach?
I heard their arguments there is a way to defend by crouching down on your guard but it's risky. They are right that protecting the head is the most important thing, problem is irl (without boxing gloves) it's hard to protect both the head & the torso simultaneously. You gotta give up one. I rather prioritize head defense thats where my wrinkly flesh computer is at 🧠.
muay thai?
Get stronger core 🤷
@@cdngravy844 This. You can train your abs to become sort of an armor but you cannot train your face, so its obvious what is more important when defending, its the BRAIN.
Take it like a man lmao
@SenseiSeth I see you repping the Sumo club. Nice!
Arm Chair Violence did a lovely breakdown on why this "system"/martial art doesn't work or even make sense which I'll recommend but I'll still entertain the video.
that guy is full of copium , i doubt he even had a real fight , does not seem the guy to judge other martial arts , he is the type of guy that thinks that if you know boxing you gonna win a street fight , when you dont have the reflex to guard against hit with boxing stances, you need to also use the elbow for better chances
This appears to be similar to the wing chun that the charismatic “master wong” teaches.
I think you can fight with most systems if you're a good fighter. But occasionally you get a system that so fundamentally is based off of non functional movement that is becomes a liability
Say all you want about karate, wing chun, tkd
They have footwork and guards and still work on punching and kicking
My example of something thst could fundamentally ruin your fighting abilities is normally aikido but I have to add keysi to my list
Not just from this video but I have seen full instructional content videos thst they used to sell
This is based on a last minute parry and confined shell which not only leaves you open to simple clinch and grappling but even pummeling from agressive opponents
Keysi works from drills and light sparring because its about being more agressive with your defence
But defence isn't agressive so you need a passive offender to counter
This isn't to say that keysi has nothing of value but what they do have is basics of most combative or aggressive styles
Even systema and krav maga which hold their own problems
But after the combative concepts and environmental awareness it looks good when you have tough manly guys who could probably defend themselves without martial arts training talking about fighting five guys and hard elbows and for the streets but it's illusion and cool factor not practicality
I don't mean to hate on the system. Obviously good knowledgeable people and as usual seth doing a great job at showing the best of a system and how it can help and be useful.
But just seen a lot of keysi recently and this is what I think of it
@@me82sjm I do hate this system this is so stupid and 90% of it is easily countered by literally a push kick lol
God bless You, good sir! The herald of truth and common sense :)
I think if you are a good grappler but an untrained striker then this could benefit you. You overprotect the head to prevent knockouts and invite close-quarters contact, which will be to your advantage as you transition to grappling them.
Yes, learning Muay Thai or boxing will be better, but this is much quicker and easier to learn and could at least partially shore up a grappler's weak points.
I agree. Even aikido techniques can work!! (They are part of other arts that DO work, after all) but their training methods and overall mentality is just too much fantasy.
I agree, you definitely are a smart person imo
Very good! Practical stuff!
Crazy intense eyes man.
Always an indication to avoid confrontation.
He looks like he was built from Chael Sonnen and Matt Hughes DNA. 👍🏼
Alan (former coach of mine) has less quit than sonnen and more sense than hughes.
So in my opinion, better than either (unless maybe you're making a UFC run in the earlier 00's.)
@@Jay-ho9io I made no chronological connection to a version of them and since you claim a personal connection to the man i defer to your assessment of the mans qualities given i have only respect and admiration for the 3 mens skills. 🫡😂👍🏼
Looks very odd but then again I already incorporate icy mikes shield bashing elbow guard thing in my drills. And that high guard / elbow blocking defense. This almost seems like a Philly shell type defense but for the streets.
1:36 I don't know what but something is very goofy about these guy's legs
I trained in this for 3 years and loved every second of it, unfortunately I smashed my knee in training one christmas with my instructor, he felt responsible and stopped training in it, I was in plaster for three months and off work for seven, so the system works. I would have liked to have carried on but my instructor went back to teaching kickboxing, so that ended my training in k.f.m. I met Andy and justo at a seminar they ran back in the day when they just got recognised by the movie giants and there system was used in the batman movie, batman begins, the seminar was held in Hull it was awsome, I will always cherish those memories.
I love it as always❤
This is nice and all, but what about when you have to protect something lower than your upper body which appears to be completely open almost entirely in this video? It's like you're just hoping that they'll always attack you where you want to be attacked.
One thing I've always wondered about systems/styles like Keysi and 52 Blocks that rely on a high guard and gripping your own head is what to do when someone throws a body shot? I understand more often than not an attacker is gonna go for your head, but a punch to the gut or the ribs isn't ever out of the question
Or a kick. How the hell are you blocking a teep to the body like that? Good forbid someone wants to take you down too 😬
shhh, let people live their fantasy
In 52 we have different blocks that protect the body such as step ladder or windmill block
Well, this looks like a good self defense system against thugs, but not a sport fighting thai boxer. You're gonna eat a massive roundhouse to the liver with that guard. Very few street goons are going to try that however.
@@nunninkav I don’t think I’ve ever seen a street fight on RUclips where someone didn’t eventually try to pick the other guy up and slam them. We’re giving street goons too little credit.
This fighting style is amazing. It looks like Batman’s style. You should do a second video of keysi. 💪
im seeing a lot of punches to the head area but how do they answer for body shots, kicks, or grappling
They don’t. It’s useful for super close and narrow fighting. Not great for range fighting.
I could definitely see a liver shot landing there if it's in the open. There's a reason you're not supposed to use only one guard all the time, lol.
It's made for street fighting,you don't see a lot of body shots in street fights
I remember Kacey Jones from the Ninja Turtles, he was very hardcore & looked like a metal band guy on roids, he was a parody on dark past super-heroes like Batman, a wrathful edgelord just like when Sean Strickland was a young lad.
Keysi is pretty interesting, but why are you so concerned about your hair?
I've trained with Alan a few times and he is INCREDIBLY scary. But also super nice
From what I've gathered, kfm is a very flawed system. But I think it would be great for exercise, like tae Bo for guys. Put on your cargo shorts and black T-shirt, play some death metal, and pretend you're Batman or Jack Reacher. At the very least, all that twisting around should be great for the abs
Really informative video. Thank you for sharing.
Keysi: making ninjitsu look good.
Yeah, it's such a terrible style. 😬
I think it's just too niche. It's not SMTH you can specialize in and think you're a god, but that never worked anyway
Jeez this guy is built freaky he has long ass arms and legs but a stubby body this guy is built for fighting
Keysi is the type of art that seems useful against someone who doesnt fight, overall it has some useful things in it but i reckon thats about it
If there is one thing I have learned from watching Seth is that every martial art has something to offer. Granted self defense situations are probably going to be against people who don't know how to fight, but if your goal is to be as effective as possible, it seem like it makes sense to try and learn as much as you can so you can take what's useful or what works best for you and adapt it to any situation.
You can say that about "every" martial art. If you're a Nak Muay and you just happen to accidentially piss off a drunken Khalil Rountree at a bar you're probably not gonna wake up! lol
@@hugejackedman3447 yeah, except you can generally beat a wider range of People if you do smtn Like boxing
@@brunopaler18Can say the same about Jujitsu and Muay Thai. Heck, even sumo wrestling even gives a decent grappling base to shove most people into something hard and take the fight out of them.
@@brunopaler18 True if you are competing, and then only if you're good at it! lol You can practice boxing, bjj or any "effective" martial art and still get destroyed just simply because the opponent is a better fighter or you're not good at it.
Besides, unless you intend to be a fighter there is little chance you need anything other than basic self defense. Random crap starters in public will fold the moment you jab them in the nose