The AI Behind Forest Keepers

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  • Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
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  • @alteregosocial
    @alteregosocial  5 месяцев назад +947

    REMEMBER: If your suspicion meter is 1 or higher, the giant will chase you AS SOON as he sees you.

    • @Username_broken
      @Username_broken 5 месяцев назад +13

      Your*

    • @JusticeMarley-j5u
      @JusticeMarley-j5u 5 месяцев назад +64

      Will you please explain the Fear/Insanity mechanic next? I can't really tell how it affects gameplay outside of HUD ambience.

    • @alteregosocial
      @alteregosocial  5 месяцев назад +84

      @@JusticeMarley-j5uYES! It will not be next, it will be right before ghost girl which is sometime in the near future

    • @RoninSaw
      @RoninSaw 5 месяцев назад +10

      ​@@alteregosocialWhat makes a giant stop and stare at you at certain ranges and what makes his vison pass right by you (e.g. I saw in the video one point he stopped lokking forwards and looked directly at you and other times he glanced pass?) also does crouch walking count as movement?

    • @-.CosmicCode.-
      @-.CosmicCode.- 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@alteregosocialin that same video could you also explain adrenaline if you haven’t

  • @plattbagarn
    @plattbagarn 5 месяцев назад +2797

    Phase 1: Roaming right on top of you.
    Phase 2: See you through walls.
    Phase 3: Camping the ship.

    • @yuu3910
      @yuu3910 5 месяцев назад +299

      Phase 1 confirmed. That shi roaming right on top of fire exit on Rend, where only 1 way to go up.

    • @alteregosocial
      @alteregosocial  5 месяцев назад +315

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @Yiffbait
    @Yiffbait 5 месяцев назад +935

    If you kill a giant, be sure to move out of it's way when it dies, think of its corpse as a giant extension ladder, we found it out hilariously thr hard way.

    • @MothGirlHina
      @MothGirlHina 5 месяцев назад +90

      That's actually so funny I'm gonna have to do that sometime

    • @Dummydude
      @Dummydude 5 месяцев назад +122

      The code confirms that this is true. If you're underneath the giant when it dies, you'll die too. When scanning the body, the cause of death will be "Gravity".

    • @MothGirlHina
      @MothGirlHina 5 месяцев назад +31

      @@Dummydude Yeah it happened to me yesterday by accident as I was testing how easy it is to kill a Giant at the ship door

    • @BeanMau
      @BeanMau 2 месяца назад +17

      Player 1: WE KILLED THE FOREST KEEPER!
      Player 2: (Dead)
      Player 3: (Dead)
      Player 4: …
      Player 4: But at what cost…

    • @sammak1862
      @sammak1862 7 дней назад

      gamer ori real?

  • @ayeemee9682
    @ayeemee9682 5 месяцев назад +1330

    *You know it’s serious when bro pulls out the desmos graphing calculator 😭😭*

    • @adicsbtw
      @adicsbtw 5 месяцев назад +23

      True

    • @FeDDoSoff
      @FeDDoSoff 3 месяца назад +7

      I loved that illustration. C/C++ devs are superior

    • @adicsbtw
      @adicsbtw 3 месяца назад +10

      @@FeDDoSoff Can confirm, the graph used was by our resident C/x86 assembly dev

  • @spectrumAYE
    @spectrumAYE 5 месяцев назад +1085

    I really hate how they instantly lock on to you after they see you once.

    • @3ggY
      @3ggY 5 месяцев назад +80

      Now you become bait for your teammates.

    • @jacksmix7123
      @jacksmix7123 5 месяцев назад

      You are being promoted to a Cracker snack

    • @TheEternal1ty
      @TheEternal1ty 5 месяцев назад +62

      when you said this that it locks onto player and raising its awareness or smth, i realized that was the case. apparently, this makes sense for a fucking infant.

    • @getthedunkon9347
      @getthedunkon9347 15 дней назад +9

      @@TheEternal1ty It see toy. Toy disappear. Keeper sad. Keeper see toy again. Get It Before disappear. Grab Toy. Keeper Happy. Eat Toy.

  • @tomgoa6309
    @tomgoa6309 5 месяцев назад +123

    Phase 1:Camp the ship
    Phase 2:Camp the ship
    Phase 3:Camp the ship

  • @lordmarshmal_0643
    @lordmarshmal_0643 5 месяцев назад +153

    The fact that a giant's suspicion only raises for the player it's focused on reminds me of its described "child-like behavior"

  • @TheCrazyOne2
    @TheCrazyOne2 5 месяцев назад +753

    Once you have all the “The AI behind _____”, you should compile them into one huge compilation, I like to put this on in the background so having a huge compilation would be appreciated

    • @cycoMSM
      @cycoMSM 5 месяцев назад +55

      Create a playlist
      Why the fuck did this get likes

    • @TheCrazyOne2
      @TheCrazyOne2 5 месяцев назад +12

      @@cycoMSM why didn’t I think of this 😅

    • @alteregosocial
      @alteregosocial  5 месяцев назад +143

      yes! i have all my AI videos on a playlist!

    • @cycoMSM
      @cycoMSM 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@TheCrazyOne2 lmao

    • @TheCrazyOne2
      @TheCrazyOne2 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@cycoMSM i may be stupid

  • @gungy_vt
    @gungy_vt 5 месяцев назад +143

    Giants dying by earthworm is nice, but death by random lightning is my favorite.

    • @Kiki-w4p3u
      @Kiki-w4p3u 3 месяца назад +6

      it actually saved me. I was running away from one and It fucking died and I looked back and it was dead and now I finally understand what the fuck killed it

  • @broduffusman4102
    @broduffusman4102 5 месяцев назад +317

    That intro of the giant climbing out of the ground was genius

    • @alteregosocial
      @alteregosocial  5 месяцев назад +22

      shoutout to @adi

    • @Ryan41707
      @Ryan41707 5 месяцев назад +7

      ...how, it's just their spawn animation

    • @Content_Deleted
      @Content_Deleted 5 месяцев назад +9

      @@Ryan41707Perhaps the better word woulda been "clever", but anyway

    • @broduffusman4102
      @broduffusman4102 5 месяцев назад +4

      @ryanorth2252 The spawn animation is being used as an intro, climbing out of the ground to introduce the giant

    • @miguelaguilar751
      @miguelaguilar751 5 месяцев назад

      adi has been on point holy shit 😂​@@alteregosocial

  • @sneakydaddyman9882
    @sneakydaddyman9882 5 месяцев назад +93

    Hazard level b is crazy😭😭

    • @getthedunkon9347
      @getthedunkon9347 15 дней назад

      I mean to be fair, it dies to half the outside mobs.

  • @Bone_Incidents
    @Bone_Incidents 5 месяцев назад +359

    When making ai do you
    A) Code a very complex system involving behavior and weather statistics
    B) They follow balls I put around on the map

    • @alfonshedstrom9859
      @alfonshedstrom9859 5 месяцев назад +96

      Thats what most game AI designers will tell you. If you make an AI too smart, it becomes unpredictable and not fun... so they often make them dumb on purpose to keep it feeling like a game

    • @samuelbarros1563
      @samuelbarros1563 5 месяцев назад +12

      @@alfonshedstrom9859 it is not dumb just because the codes are simple

    • @Bone_Incidents
      @Bone_Incidents 5 месяцев назад +77

      @@samuelbarros1563 No no no, what they mean is if you make an AI that will try to do the best things possible in a scenario, it will feel like you’re playing chess against a bot. Videogames are meant to be pseudo realistic, not fully. Although I would understand if the AI went with difficulty scaling where on the hardest difficulty the bots are just insane.

    • @Bone_Incidents
      @Bone_Incidents 5 месяцев назад +25

      @@alfonshedstrom9859 I understand. Videogames are meant to be fun and having to deal with AI that you can’t accurately predict isn’t fun.

    • @sakura368
      @sakura368 5 месяцев назад +10

      the orbs are easier, and the orbs mean they search EVERYWHERE once, then reset and search everywhere again

  • @Noobworries
    @Noobworries 5 месяцев назад +392

    boy i see another one of those guys he gonna turn into a forest sleeper

  • @hat6885
    @hat6885 5 месяцев назад +130

    I am the Lorax, you cut down the trees, I break your knees

    • @santa_with_a_gun
      @santa_with_a_gun 5 месяцев назад +18

      i am the giant, i speak for the trees, if you cut them down, i'll eat your knees

  • @-AGGRESIVEPEANUT-
    @-AGGRESIVEPEANUT- 5 месяцев назад +1115

    Cant wait for the old bird video 👹👹👹

  • @Fract4l
    @Fract4l 5 месяцев назад +27

    In-game representation:
    Phase 1: "uuuhhhh I think I hear the giant"
    Phase 2: "I'm dead I'm dead oh crap I'm so done" / "AAAAAAAAAAA"
    Phase 3: " *Starts the ship* "

  • @TBNRanimations0511
    @TBNRanimations0511 5 месяцев назад +139

    I once had an INTENSE forest keeper encounter. I was on march and I was heading back to the ship, but as I’m walking, I hear the giant. I got scared but remembered that standing behind anything that can fully cover ur body will prevent u from being spotted. so as I watched the giant roam the forest, I was heading from tree to tree. And eventually I made it to the ship without being spotted. when I told my teammate about it, he said he was watching me the entire time, he also told me good job. Big brain move I made to avoid the giant. The encounter was way more intense than what I just said

  • @CibuYT
    @CibuYT 5 месяцев назад +62

    you forgot to add that old birds can easily kill giants ! this is very useful on artifice

  • @nickkrueger585
    @nickkrueger585 5 месяцев назад +54

    2:27 wondering if he did his be real in that moment

    • @SpinIfTeam
      @SpinIfTeam 5 месяцев назад

      I thought it was bereal time

  • @A_mouse_that_is_pink
    @A_mouse_that_is_pink 5 месяцев назад +23

    i was thinking "i wonder how they work" and as soon as i think of it, you uploaded this. thanks :D

  • @skaladdy1164
    @skaladdy1164 5 месяцев назад +15

    You forgot to mention you can kill giants pretty easily with thunder if you have a conductive item. A key is great because you can wait until the key is about to go off. Get the aggro of the forest keeper and kill him. This is really helpful for stopping the giant from camping your ship.

  • @avena7506
    @avena7506 5 месяцев назад +19

    These comprehensive AI breakdown offer a side of knowledge that some of the best guide videos on the Lethal Company side of youtube just don't, combining these with Bread's videos is knowledge that has saved me multiple times and also helped me ease my friends nerves in difficult situations.
    You deserve all the traction you're getting from this please keep growing!

  • @obamahostile4073
    @obamahostile4073 5 месяцев назад +13

    NGL these enemies AI breakdowns are so interesting, thank you chief

  • @Notllamalord
    @Notllamalord 5 месяцев назад +6

    I love watching these because I make games in Unity and I can imagine exactly how the dev programmed these

  • @cowuwu1
    @cowuwu1 5 месяцев назад +8

    Don’t forget the old birds can also kill a giant.
    Also theres 2 different ambient sounds for when the giant spots you and one for when it chases you so you can tell which one is which

  • @WretchedParty76
    @WretchedParty76 5 месяцев назад +30

    Hazard level: infinity -1

  • @firekex
    @firekex 5 месяцев назад +4

    Giants can also be killed by baboon hawks, old bird, and lightning if you have a spare key to put in the entrence of the ship on stormy

  • @SAmaryllis
    @SAmaryllis 5 месяцев назад +3

    The graph was well-done, kudos to the mathematician for putting it together :)

  • @Earf1000
    @Earf1000 5 месяцев назад +2

    I never thought I’d see Desmos in a lethal company entity AI video!

  • @Its_Lunas_dream
    @Its_Lunas_dream 5 месяцев назад +3

    2:28 The BeReal sound made me so paranoid. I was sure, it was my BeReal notification😂

  • @kiwiman096
    @kiwiman096 5 месяцев назад +4

    Hazard level: ∞
    Once spotting a player, the Forest Keeper DEMOLISHES HIM NO MATTER WHAT

  • @AZR43L_YT
    @AZR43L_YT 5 месяцев назад +10

    great stuff man. These videos are at a professional level 👍

  • @nuckchorris1396
    @nuckchorris1396 5 месяцев назад +4

    I love how us gamers/nerds hate school until we find practical applications for math and science inside of games 💀💀💀😂😂

  • @Pureman-ht5yk
    @Pureman-ht5yk 5 месяцев назад +10

    Adi did truly help you a lot man

  • @dimthegreat5398
    @dimthegreat5398 5 месяцев назад +5

    Hold on bro got animation now?!
    Amen. Keep it up lad!
    Can't wait to see the Old Bird analysis

  • @Avabees
    @Avabees 5 месяцев назад +2

    Was waiting for this one in particular!

  • @lunarlionlilith
    @lunarlionlilith 5 месяцев назад +8

    I love the way you edit these btw

  • @momosity.
    @momosity. 14 дней назад

    Absolutely love the suspicion meter explanation that was beautiful

  • @CibuYT
    @CibuYT 5 месяцев назад +3

    such a cool video ! very interesting, very informative :)
    now I wonder if an optimised strat would be to crouch far away from a giant making sure he can still see you and waiting until he runs at you, that way everyone else has a decreased suspicion meter

  • @porygon1889
    @porygon1889 5 месяцев назад +2

    this is so cool i hope you keep making more videos on the ais

  • @just.Harley
    @just.Harley 5 месяцев назад +2

    this is a wonderful video, big fan of adding extra information at the end i love the niche stuff

  • @xHaii
    @xHaii 5 месяцев назад +2

    Huge thanks for making all these guides, keep it up!

  • @Quartz5005
    @Quartz5005 5 месяцев назад +2

    Damn, Adi doing some good work for the info.

  • @hypnivaria
    @hypnivaria 5 месяцев назад +1

    it's cool to see the production value increase on each new upload :]

  • @daydreamer9986
    @daydreamer9986 2 месяца назад +1

    I had two blind dogs after me and happened to run into a giant instanly grabbing me. However, at that exact moment it grabbed me the two dogs simultaneously did that open mouth dive attack hitting the giant instead, killing it instantly while dropping me in the process while I quietly making my way back into the ship.

  • @g1ngrbread
    @g1ngrbread 5 месяцев назад +2

    I absolutely LOVE these videos, and they're helpful too! keep it up man

  • @Jackspladt
    @Jackspladt 22 дня назад +1

    “Hazard level: B” my ass this things a menace

  • @galacta7300
    @galacta7300 5 месяцев назад +3

    EXCELLENT work dude. Curious to see a Nutcracker video!

  • @DragonuFear
    @DragonuFear 5 месяцев назад +3

    You forgot to mention lightning can also cause burning. And technically a jetpack explosion but thats not ideal. You can bait a giant over a sparking item and sometimes random lightning can result in randomly dead giants.

  • @Nesw10
    @Nesw10 5 месяцев назад

    Man I can’t believe how helpful and in depth these are, Thanks 🙏🏽

  • @SomeRando5370
    @SomeRando5370 5 месяцев назад +2

    Congrats on 30k!

  • @Zbpskals
    @Zbpskals 5 месяцев назад +1

    I been waiting for this forever oml

  • @forbidenpupetry
    @forbidenpupetry 5 месяцев назад +1

    YOU should make a mod that combines all the stuff you have so far to use to test AI

  • @Berzikov
    @Berzikov 5 месяцев назад +1

    I absolutely love these Lethal Conpany videos, keep it up!

  • @_demonhunter
    @_demonhunter 5 месяцев назад +15

    NO WAY i have these dudes in my garden

    • @Noobworries
      @Noobworries 5 месяцев назад

      do you have a radar booster in your garden

  • @vicid1415
    @vicid1415 5 месяцев назад +44

    2:25 be real notification lol

  • @prstechnic1774
    @prstechnic1774 4 дня назад

    We love the desmos graphing calculator 🔥

  • @dominic85
    @dominic85 5 месяцев назад +1

    ur bereal notif going off mid video jumpscared me

  • @beb190
    @beb190 5 месяцев назад +1

    you can also kill forest giants by dropping a metal item and have the giant stand on it while lightning strikes, my friend accidently did this lol

  • @rconmaster
    @rconmaster 5 месяцев назад +1

    congrats on 30k :D i remember when you still had less than a thousand!

  • @jettxym
    @jettxym 5 месяцев назад +1

    I love ur vids! Helps me understand them alot better.

  • @firehornetgamer2698
    @firehornetgamer2698 5 месяцев назад +47

    Wait, they’re killable???

    • @RavenousStorm
      @RavenousStorm 5 месяцев назад +10

      Yeah v50 made them killlable

    • @phillipmartinez2480
      @phillipmartinez2480 5 месяцев назад +3

      yes now hey are

    • @SammysCreations
      @SammysCreations 5 месяцев назад +3

      It’s pretty difficult to kill them tho

    • @Xolven
      @Xolven 5 месяцев назад +1

      1 Easter egg kills them

    • @Azathoth343
      @Azathoth343 5 месяцев назад +3

      They weren't before but now you can kill them with a shovel, knife, thunderbolt, and finally the old bird.
      Btw I don't know if the shotgun works so maybe that too.

  • @Juicy-America
    @Juicy-America 5 месяцев назад +1

    These are one of the only enemies that feels just a little OP

  • @xtrem5428
    @xtrem5428 27 дней назад

    The easter egg burn is a nice touch.

  • @jahahahaha
    @jahahahaha 5 месяцев назад +1

    Pretty sure the Radar Booster stuns for less time. Me and my buddies used it to stun a giant while we kill it with shovels/knives but the flash stun duration seems to be 2-3 seconds.

  • @Gubacs_Mester
    @Gubacs_Mester 5 месяцев назад +1

    i got jumpscared by the bereal notification

  • @Clemente-0
    @Clemente-0 5 месяцев назад +1

    this week i was playing with my friends and suddenly 3 giants spawned at the same time, never saw this happening (it was adamance at 3:00PM)
    also great guide as always

  • @hambeargurfan
    @hambeargurfan 5 месяцев назад

    my love i’ve been waiting for your next post. i’m so glad you finally posted again darling

  • @anton9270
    @anton9270 5 месяцев назад +4

    your the best thc for these vids man

  • @Snipersfmgmodtf2hl
    @Snipersfmgmodtf2hl 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you for filling us with *_quality_* content alteregosocial

  • @ChezzyKnytt
    @ChezzyKnytt 5 месяцев назад +5

    Phase 1: Giant sees you when you leave the facility
    Phase 2: 30 metre reach
    Phase 3: Digestion

  • @derfnaf_master8819
    @derfnaf_master8819 5 месяцев назад

    congrats on the 30k, you really deserve it

  • @Night_Hawk_475
    @Night_Hawk_475 5 месяцев назад

    Amazing! And so details on this one! I have no extra questions this time, ahhaah.
    Thank you so much for your effort on this research and on sharing it all with us in such an informative way

  • @mrvoidschannel359
    @mrvoidschannel359 5 месяцев назад +1

    I love these videos. I want to be a game developer myself and this is entertaining and informative

  • @LuminLeveret
    @LuminLeveret 5 месяцев назад +1

    I love you for making these videos

  • @lonelyPorterCH
    @lonelyPorterCH 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thats why they always roam around the ship when they saw one of us, interesting, so in this case, someone else has to go since their suspecion meter is lower

  • @titan1070
    @titan1070 5 месяцев назад

    man this youtube channel is awesome, cant wait till it gets to 100k subs

  • @robinemblem9488
    @robinemblem9488 5 месяцев назад

    Looking forward to watching your streams, great video as always

  • @brentandes4317
    @brentandes4317 5 месяцев назад

    2:27 the bereal notification made check my phone 😂

  • @inordirectional
    @inordirectional 13 дней назад

    nicely done graph by echoprograms!

  • @TheSen12342
    @TheSen12342 5 месяцев назад +1

    FINALY NEW UPLOAD

  • @MakutaBrainhax
    @MakutaBrainhax 5 месяцев назад +1

    AN ADDITION! :if you stand behind or too close to the sides of the giant when it falls on death, his body will crush you.

  • @AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA462
    @AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA462 5 месяцев назад +9

    It only takes two shotgun blasts to kill a giant

  • @urbestbud8850
    @urbestbud8850 5 месяцев назад +1

    congrats on 30k

  • @Real_RUBB3R
    @Real_RUBB3R 4 месяца назад

    Old Birds can also not only kill Forest Giants, but they actively target them too!

  • @Skammye
    @Skammye 5 месяцев назад +2

    Very interesting to watch, ty

  • @traffic9518
    @traffic9518 5 месяцев назад

    I remember hearing somewhere that if they eat someone they will release a gas that can slow down other teammates but I can’t find where I saw it

  • @egg-scp-secret-lab
    @egg-scp-secret-lab 5 месяцев назад +2

    Amazing video

  • @scottamea
    @scottamea 5 месяцев назад +1

    worth noting that if you are in multiplayer and not the host, the shotgun only takes 2 shots to kill giants

  • @dennispulles
    @dennispulles 5 месяцев назад

    My man got that bereal notification at 2:28 haha

  • @Bardigrade
    @Bardigrade 5 месяцев назад +2

    Spiders changed in the new update, need a new video on them

  • @maxjefferison1654
    @maxjefferison1654 2 месяца назад

    Wasn't expecting to hear a BeReal notification lol

  • @RuffleShnorf
    @RuffleShnorf 2 месяца назад

    The only things I retained from this video is that giants have really bad tunnel vision, and eggs are amazing.

  • @Archbishopofcheeseburger
    @Archbishopofcheeseburger 5 месяцев назад

    Yay! My second favorite creature! The forest keeper, or as I like to call: "Braken's big bad uncle."

  • @elibvn6414
    @elibvn6414 5 месяцев назад

    could've probably mentioned that it's easier to tell who the giant is targeting in a crowd based on who has the menacing sound effect
    i feel that's a detail that's easy to miss

  • @АрсенНосков-е6ц
    @АрсенНосков-е6ц 5 месяцев назад

    The more videos released explaining AI, the more math and equations there will be

  • @ElvizNation
    @ElvizNation 5 месяцев назад +1

    Can't wait for that creepy little ghost girl video

  • @marcelio2k175
    @marcelio2k175 5 месяцев назад

    additional kill method : lightning can set them on fire too , so you can bring metal object in front of ship and bait him, so he will walk in to lightning and die

  • @DarvinostheGreat
    @DarvinostheGreat 4 месяца назад

    I feel like I should add- I've seen giants use a climbing animation to get on top of buildings in Artifice, but it only plays the animation and doesn't actually work. I randomly saw a hand climb up the warehouse I was on while transferring loot with a jetpack and I thought they had added a new hand entity lol

    • @mrult28
      @mrult28 2 месяца назад

      You probably just saw it spawn

  • @MelodicaDude
    @MelodicaDude 5 месяцев назад

    you didnt mention it in the video, but giants also have a unique interaction on titan where they can reach a hand up the catwalks and physically climb up from the ground. seems rare as ive only had it happen once, but it made me look into it and it seems to have always been a behavior they can display