RUMORED PLANS for Beyond Big Thunder Mountain!
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- Опубликовано: 5 май 2024
- In this Mickey Views Special Report, Brayden shares the latest information he's hearing on what new Disney attractions might be part of Magic Kingdom's largest expansion in history! From Radiator Springs Racers potentially coming to Walt Disney World, to a Woody attraction, this rumor round-up is can't-miss! This is Mickey Views News, your source for Disney News!
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00:00 Introduction
00:42 RADIATOR SPRINGS RACERS!
02:48 WOODY ATTRACTION!
04:09 Rivers of America Endangered
05:19 VILLAINS LAND!
06:25 LATEST BAYOU INFO!
07:27 Save the River
08:34 WDW Railroad...
09:35 RIP Frontierland?
10:13 Credibility
11:18 Conclusion
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You know where would be a better spot for a new Toy Story attraction? Toy Story Land.
Studios greatly needs more attractions. That park is bursting at the seams.
Yes
Absolutely agree!
I think they boxed themselves in with Toy Story land. If you look at satellite images, they can only expand north, and that would require them to demolish a parking garage and presumably build it again elsewhere. I doubt they will ever expand Toy Story land as a result. HS expansions would probably come in the form of more Star Wars (I am not sure about that these days) replacing part of the parking lot or a new land replacing and expanding behind Animation Courtyard/Launch Bay. That park is the most constrained of all of them.
@@user-li2yv5je5e then maybe they should stop making Toy Story attractions if they can’t fit them in the land.
What makes Frontierland so special is the kinetic energy that comes from the River, Liberty Belle, Big Thunder, and Splash. The land feels *alive*. It would be nice if Disney gave us proper lands with multiple rides for the theme; instead of these IP Micro Lands with one or two attractions. The parks are losing their identity and themes. Just IPs shoehorned into anywhere they can.
1000% agree the theming and identity of the parks is getting lost more and more every year. Indiana Jones and Encanto have nothing to do with the animal kingdom and the Desert area is just a lazy excuse to shove more IP around Big Thunder. I would much rather have a new original attraction along the lines of Soarin or Everest then another ride based on IP. Disney is losing the magic.
They’re turning our beloved parks into Universal of old.
Ride the movies! Until 10 years pass and you lose interest about the movie and the attraction and now you have an eyesore to deal with.
Just to play devil's advocate, Isn't Fantasyland a land with general theming & several IPs. I think these new lands can work well, just have to wait & see
@@kellyvalence5323 the IP isn’t the theme of the entire land
Agree - There is way to much over reliance on IP!
STOP CLONING RIDES!!! Each park needs to have its own attractions and identity, that’s what makes people want to visit new locations and have a different experience every time
EXACTLY! I have been trying to tell people this; Disney these days is honestly making each of the parks so similar (exception Tokyo Disney) with the attractions and lands that if you see one park, you have seen all of them! Disney really needs to focus on non-IP stuff or IP-stuff that will cause each park to be unique
i agree
For rides like Tron and Avatar, Star Wars adult stuff but not for Disney properties geared to kids and families like Frozen, Cars etc There's a reason why It's a Small World, Peter Pan and even Splash Mountain are in both coasts but no complaints there.
@@Cello20247 which parks similar, I don't recall ...?
@@darien5712 We should move all new attractions to WDW or CDA. Keep disney land how walt left it just up date the attractions as time progresses.
I think it would be a great mistake to totally fill in the Rivers of America.
The river boat is iconic and shouldn't go away.
Yeah a bridge or tunnel over to the island would be a lot better, increase the island’s guest flow whilst leaving the river intact.
Unfortunately, icons are relative to the generation being targeted. Even though my generation is the one with the most money to spend at the parks and have raised their kids there, they are targeting pleasing my kids,which are Gen z. A frontierland has zero relevance to them. Tom Sawyer who? They will keep coming for the IP they grew up with, which is Monsters, Cars, Toy Story, etc. Brayden is a rare Gen Z'r appreciating the imagineering of yesteryear. And I really have loved so many of their additions from the last couple of decades even though I didn't grow up with them. But I agree with many in the comments that don't want it to look like an unthoughtful hodgepodge. Walt created variety, but there was order and theming with a stream of continuity...
@@ethanshackletonGreat idea. Like a cave to Tom Sawyer Island. They should have thought of that when the boat was under refurbishment.
@@ethanshackleton I'm afraid neither are likely possible. A tunnel in Florida is pretty much impossible without major engineering efforts and it would likely need to go down 3-4 stories in height, which isn't practical for a ramp. A bridge is easier but still has issues with height due to the height of the boat and the smoke.
The best bet would probably be to build a bridge and disguise it as a mountain, but I'm not sure how much space it would end up occupying.
Perhaps they could pull off a drawbridge.
@@jenniferrundle6870By that logic, you may as well tear down the castle, demolish Main Street, level the Haunted Mansion, and pave the rest of the park over. That argument might hold water if Splash Mountain, based on a movie from eons ago that most never saw, wasn't the most popular attraction in the world when it closed. If you do an attraction PROPERLY, like Disney used to, it's timeless.
They should just rename the “desert” area “big thunder mesa” and bring some of the old concepts in here from WDW’s conception
Bingo. But it's now harder to do with Mater and Lighting McQueen's face right next door
@@almendraman not too difficult. Make Big Thunder Mesa a stop along Route 66, right next to Radiator Springs. The only thing you have to get past is the existence of humans and 'Cars' in the same world.
@@luxraiden1902 I'm sure Disney has strict guidelines on the IP on that regard
YES!!! I miss the days of creativity and story building rather than exclusively relying on existing IP. They could really build up the area to tell an entirely new story similar to Frontierland in Paris, but it could even go even further into the lore. It would make for a perfect S.E.A. tie-in.
@@almendraman I get the impression that Disney is relaxing any guidelines they had for those in the parks. Their focus seems to be developing lands that combine IPs in a general thematic setting or look and feel. The key objective is to get as many recognizable IPs into the parks. Like Guardians of the Galaxy doesn't really make sense at EPCOT, but it's over by the other Space stuff, so they put it in. The new villains section and Dinoland retheme will also be similar collages of IPs with a vague theme/setting.
This is horrible in so many ways. For starters, Rivers of America makes that area of the park so peaceful and adds so much kinetic energy and placemaking with the Liberty Belle sailing around it. If they get rid of Rivers Of America, MK will instantly become the ugliest castle park in the world. They have so much land surrounding MK. If they cant figure out a way to spare RoA and Tom Sawer Island, they're just wildly and inexcusably incompetent.
Another thing, I am so sick of them doing is copy/pasting rides between the domestic parks. It massively deters interest for WDW guests to visit DL and vice versa.
I love the fact that they are finally going forward with some meaningful expansion, but not at the cost of losing the nature, beauty and relaxation that Rivers of America and Tom Sawyers Island brings to an otherwise hectic and jam-packed park.
YES! THEY NEED TO STOP CLONING RIDES.
These days at Disney, it's kinda like taking one step forward but 9 steps back just to get new expansions.
They lazy and cheap they have so much land and could almost double the size of the park but they need to drain and grade areas to make safe for construction and won't want to pay. Villains land should be constructed well north west of the current park boundary and have space for multiple e ticket attractions with massive centre piece that can be seen from park entrance and contrasts against Cinderella castle. There is so much land there. If I was them I would do a much larger version of Eftellings fairytale forest to the north of big thunder and fantasy land with a few small fairytale rides within the forest. Have the forest touching Fantasyland start out magical and have a beauty and beast dark ride thinking similar quality and ride system to Symbolica rather than low quality cheap thing like under the seas, have sparse 🌵 trees next to big thunder and transition to tropical then winter trees. Have music throughout the forest and as travel deeper into forest the music and attractions become darker until you reach cave that conceals you walking under the park staff road with really sinister music and voices of villains, you come out of the cave into massive villain land. That gives numerous walk through attractions/ things to see in the forest a world class beauty and beast dark ride expansion to Fantasyland and a massive villains land with enough state of the art highly themed attractions so it could almost stand as a park in own right. There is so much potential there but we won't see anything like it as we know they will just add the cheapest option with IP that doesn't fit in
Agreed!
You are spot on! I hate most of their ideas so far, with less hate for a cars ride. I don’t want the bayou. When they decided Encanto and Coco should be in Animal Kingdom, I felt relieved. Why would they put a woody ride there, when Toy Story land is in Hollywood? Rivers of America would be a huge loss. As would Tom Sawyer Island. Once all the beautiful classics are ruined, I’m not sure why I would ever go back. And I love Disney World
I think most people love the idea of a villains land because we have never gotten something like that before at a disney park but taking Avatar to Disneyland and Cars to WDW feels a little lazy. Almost like they are saying “what are our most popular attractions people pay for in each park?? Ok now let’s bring over here!”
There will be less and less special and unique themes at each park…
It's cheap. Iger likes cheap, as long as it pays for his bad movies.
If they leave out the Route 66 street with the amazing theming and just shove the ride back there is it even a land? The street part is one of the best they have done leaving it out would make the ride pointless imo
Just give the whole area to Villains lol
@@ccharles33it would be Beyond Big Thunder Land.. I would think they want to keep the route 66 street a gem for DCA only and have this be just a desert route instead of route 66.
I have 0 issues with avatar going to California because the concept they showed to us looks completely different then the one in Disney world. Having it themed from the second film will make me want to travel to DL to experience it
@@Huntbeck33 I agree regarding Avatar. The concept art for the one in Cali looks something like the technology they used for Pirates of the Caribbean Shangai, which would totally be cool and different. While the Cars ride would be a clone.
I’m ok with all these new changes, including changes to Tom Sawyers island. HOWEVER, to reduce or eliminate the river’s of America and the removal of the Library Bell would be an ABOMINATION!! they have 40+ square miles, and they can’t find room to expand the Magic Kingdom without removing the rivers of America
Rivers of America is iconic. And they recently renovated it. I rode the Liberty Belle for the first time in January. It’s relaxing, fun, and a great thing for older people or young families who aren’t into or can’t do thrill rides. My heart breaks thinking it could all be destroyed.
I don’t care as much about the theming of TS Island, but that area is essential as a spot where kids can just go run around in an unstructured way and blow off some energy… Every park needs one of those.
Yes, iconic, that’s the word I was searching for. I can’t think of any other single item that would do more damage to the park by removal other than the castle
The whole idea for this location, to Walt, was to always expand and never demolish.
The 4 gates are becoming increasingly homogenized, the global parks are sharing cloned rides... I don't see much of this as a good thing
Because they’ve become cheap
@@smith9808 Cheap, yes. Also a whole lot of stupid, desperate, & lacking originality.
I used to say 2020 was the beginning of Disney's Damaged Decade, but I honestly don't see them ever getting back to what made them great.
I agree...
@@smith9808 Cheap and easy. What's cheap and easy? A ride with plenty of memberberries for the kiddies and off the shelf, easily repaired tech. Originality? Bah, who are you, Joe Rohde? We don't have the budget!
@@user-li2yv5je5e Disney would LOVE to hire you! 😂
Taking away rivers of america would be another Disney fail in my opinion
You're 💯 correct!
Massive failure!
Brayden dude you have been absolutely rocking it lately. Thanks for what you do man
He's cranking out content like crazy
@@exiledrabbithe really is!!
@@exiledrabbitHe’s cranking out QUALITY content like crazy! FTFY😂
I’m all for expansion and new things, but I am kinda sad about the possibility of losing Frontierland and liberty square. I think those are such quintessential Disney and somewhat tied to the original state. It would be great to keep a connection to the more old school things for kiddos to see. 😥 Also, we don’t want more carbon copy’s of other parks, each park should be somewhat unique! We wanna be special too 😩 lol
They’re racist tho
Disney doesn’t know how to theme. They are losing their identity.
They are about to close the shooting range -- such a true violent gun crime!
Disney - "We are thinking..."
Universal - "We have built..."
I think their processes are the same...its how they announce things that is hurting Disney. Uni waits until things are greenlit, and construction has begun, while Disney tends to announce before any boots hit the ground.
Uni does build faster, but I think time perception (based on when we know things) is key too.
Galaxy’s Edge, Remy, Frozen, Toy Story, Tron, Guardians…should I go on?
@@bstives58You really sure you should have added "Frozen" to that list given how much most fans of Disney hate that it replaced Maelstrom?
@@user-li2yv5je5e I think majority didnt mind the replacement of maelstrom only the die hard. Frozen had way more foot traffic. Maelstrom was always a walk on and no line during it's last years.
@@gissneric THIS
Thanks, Brayden, for the very best Disney content on RUclips. I still don’t understand why you don’t have 500,000 subscribers.
Because there a lot of anti Disney people and Braydens channel is mostly Disney. They will watch his vids but wont subscribe.
He will have 500k within 18 months based on growth trajectory of his last 18 months
I was literally just thinking of this idea. It would be cool, but at the same time, it is really one of the true unique things that DCA has.
I don’t believe that Disney would ever get rid of the river. It’s too important to history, and the open grand vistas are what sets Disney apart. Could they permanently dock the boat? I suppose they could but I don’t know if that would make anyone happy. Seeing things moving gives kinetic energy to an area and makes it feel alive. Something sorely missing from Galaxy’s Edge.
I personally like generic areas with multiple Disney rides spread throughout rather than full lands based on one movie
It's the best way to do theme parks! Allows you to change out attractions when they've run their course. If a land is themed to one IP that hasn't proven its longevity yet then what happens when it stops being popular? Now you have an entire land that needs to be scrapped.
I would like them to think outside of I.P.
Then it’s no longer a theme park and no longer what Walt envisioned.
@@charliemacsartmost of Disney world is filed with original stuff that has remained popular since open. If they do it right it stays popular. The reason stuff loses its popularity with Disney is because of Disney letting stuff fall off.
This is what I prefer as well. It's what Disney was built on. Like the expansion at animal Kingdom is a great example. A themed land that is designed in a way that you can incorporate several IP etc. Instead of a huge area taken up by one thing. It works for a few things like Star wars, Harry Potter, and Avatar. But not a great way to build a whole theme park.
Losing Rivers of America would be a true shame! I don't see a redressing of Frontierland as New Orleans being very successful without the charming narrow streets and back alleys of DL's New Orleans Sq.
If they are going to build radiator springs racers, then they have to get rid of that monstrosity Tomorrowland Speedway, surely.
Or reimagine it. Electric cars, wreck it Ralph theming with a gaming feel.
@@savvymammyof4458Electric cars are alr a thing of today, not tomorrow
All gas stations at WDW should be Flo's V8 cafe in style. Thats just me.
That would be creepy to me somehow.
Of course, it’s all just IP stuff. One of the few things Disney had over Universal (in my opinion) is how a lot of the rides were uniquely not based in any IP and their own thing, we’re staring to lose that now and that kinda sucks.
It's why Weiss and Eisner sneaked in Everest before Rasulo took full power
Getting rid of Rivers of America and Liberty Bell would be a huge mistake. That is a major ambience and the amount of people it takes off of the path is massive. Also, if Cars is in Florida what is the draw to DCA? Disneyland Forward will be a while if it’s approved. Nice job reporting Brayden. I hope a lot of these rumors are wrong.
I feel like radiator springs land would be better at Hollywood studios.
Its not the land...just the ride
@@joemess That makes it worse.
@@user-li2yv5je5ehow is it worse..do you want the land? I agree the land should be there too but wouldn't mind just the attraction apparently they want to keep the land special to DCA similar to the Ratatouille restaurant for only DLP.
It's about the Beyond Thunder Mountain Desert Experience
i’d be so sad to see frontierland go, it’s so classic 🥺 but thank you for the great content! you’ve quickly become one of my favorite theme park creators, keep up the great work!
This is awful. Why do they keep matching what other parks have now? It reduces the incentive to travel to one or the other. The entire retheme of splash to Tianas is ruining the entire flow of the park. An easier retheme idea would have been Pocahontas or even Bambi. But now the entire park needs to change all due to one ride.
You're 💯 correct!
If you watch “we call it imagineering” at the 2:33 mark you can clearly see a Radiator Springs model near a Cinderella castle model on the table… I think you’ve got this one spot on… keep up the great work dude.
Very sad to see their desire to eliminate Frontier Land. Walt loved American history and that's such a recognizable and interesting part of it. That area was great and so well-themed.
I do love the villains idea. I'm hoping it's fully fleshed out, though, and doesn't feel as lifeless as Galaxy's Edge.
Agree on keeping the water feature. Love the openness and visual break it provides from the congestion of the park. Would be cool if they kept it open and maybe re themed as a New Orleans riverboat to coincide with Tiana's and the New Orleans area.
I think it can be argued that Liberty Square is a better celebration of American history than
It will be a real shame to lose the Liberty Belle Riverboat. For some older people with mobility problems it is one of a few attractions they can experience without needing to transfer, and its such a lovely, leisurely way to take a rest for a short while. I also agree with you that having the water remain in the park would be very important.
Having said that, I am excited for the Villains area. I would love to see some of the villains interacting with each other in one of the attractions - that could be a lot of fun.
It's so frustrating that Disney insists on making EVERYTHING IP based now. Where are the special and original attractions?
Rivers of America has to stay open!
Considering Radiator Springs is the same “ride” as Test Track at EPCOT, it’s probably slim chance they would put the same ride at two different WDW parks.
You have too much faith in disney
You must not be counting the 2 Dumbo rides and the same Aladdin Flying Carpets at MK. Or the duplicate Alice in Wonderland tea cups ride that was announced but then got cut for Mary Poppins at Epcot.
@@KhurtKhave669those aren't half billion dollar e ticket rides
Ratatouille, Rise of the Resistance, Runaway Railway are all the same ride too.
I bet 90% of the guests would not even know they use the same track technology. Cars is different enough to not be a copycat.
No real grass, no historic trees, no bodies of water. Welcome to Disney World.
I'm fine with losing Tom Sawyer's, but Rivers of America has to stay
Disney World IS a fantasy place. Why do you want real world things in it? 😂
@@gissnericThese parks were envisioned as a place where both fantasy and the tangibility of America merge
@@almendraman is there even an America nowadays? Maybe a decade ago.
It seems like it would be very hot in the Florida summer.
I really wouldn't like them putting Radiator Races in MK. It's not that it's a bad ride, it's a great ride. However we already have this ride pretty much, Test Track. Nothing wrong with Cars but lets get a new ride at least.
You can't have Cars anything without Radiator Spring's Racers. We absolutely don't have this ride. We have no Pixar Cars animatronics, no breathtaking scenic landscapes..
BRING BACK THE WESTERN RIVER EXPEDITION ride and place it behind big thunder, 100% would be great to have a Thunder Mesa Land as a "New Frontierland
i know people often complain about ip’s being used in the parks but if the integration isn’t too out of place i think it’s ok; i’d imagine original attractions are often denied/underfunded which is disappointing. i would have done the cancelled western river expedition in that plot of land
Western River Expedition should have replaced Splash Mountain, but that doesn't get Disney the BlackRock ESG score they desperately want
It would be so cool if they revived cancelled historical projects
I seriously hope it is a true expansion. Not blocking off entire sections but rather working beyond what’s there.
So many changes to my favorite area..... It's hard to accept its possible.
It will be a MASSIVE missed opportunity if they don’t use the Cave of Wonders as a land icon for the Villains land leading towards Big Thunder. Make the E ticket an escape from the cave of wonders coaster. It just makes sense.
Not only can you develop lands areas on old ip but you can leave room for new ip. A new western or desert based story would fit in well in the so called desert area and give Disney the option of creating something total new that would fit in theming wise. Also how about an another possible back entrance to the park with a new hotels and parking structures ala Epcot . Imagine the premiums Disney could charge of that.
Great point... nobody has been talking about this BUT a hotel connected to Magic Kingdom would be something that really competes well with Epic Universe. Overseas parks have them, WDW needs one too
It would be so bogus if they decide to bring a cars themed ride from another park into Magic Kingdom… Why not just come up with something fresh and new… Even if you want to use the same ride system, simply theme it in a different way… It’s essentially test track
Wow I really hope those rumors aren't true. What a mess. I feel like a ton of people won't ever want to go back to Magic kingdom again.
Rivers of America needs to be kept in its entirety. That feature and the boat help with the suspension of one's disbelief. Also why not put the Toy Story area where Peco's Bill is now? The theme is nearly identical.
Why add a toy story area at all? There's one a few miles away. Same with the radiator racers thing. Test track is monorail ride away. 🤷♂️
@@jasonwebb5964 It's recognizable IP
I like the idea of the new lands. Like most other folks, I love big E-Ticket attractions. To me though, for an expansion to really add capacity, you need 2-3 C-Tickets for every E. Ariel’s ride type attractions that are nice, load easily, and eat crowds up.
Villains needs an E-ticket that showcases multiple properties. Think about it. If the goal is to detract from Epic Universe, which has a dark monsters ride showcasing nearly all of their classic monsters, then Disney would need to follow suit with a show stopping attraction that gives fans a taste of all of their favorite big bads. I'd personally like a boat concept (using the Shanghai Pirates ride system) that starts guests off on the river styx and entering Hades, which can connect thematically to any Villain in their line up by riding through their biomes. Imagine a perilous shifting set of rapids tumbling down Scar's gorge while Hyenas cackle, guests ducking spells cast from Maleficent as she transforms into a dragon before their very eyes, Jafar's snake form curling around a tunnel as he attempts to constrict and hypnotize his victims, and it's all in a desperate bid to prove 'who is the biggest baddie? ' 😂
Seriously though, someone please hire me 😬 I have too many ideas. It hurts.
I really hope they build something new and not just a clone of another ride elsewhere.
I think a Villians Land would be great. Getting rid of Frontierland, and Rivers of America I don't like it. Seems like they are changing too much
Ty Brayden for keeping us informed Love your videos and content
Really enjoying the shorter more frequent reports but don’t give up on the longer deep dives!!! You put so much effort into both and l really appreciate the time and effort you put into everything. Thanks for keeping us all informed!!!
Disney... dca needs rsr as a unique destination to drive visitation to that park. It also has absymal capacity. So giving away 8 acres at magic kingdom for that one ride is also just a bad idea operationally. And it cant run as easily in the rain and it rains every day in florida. What the heck is going on.
Here are my thoughts
1) I love the radiator springs area. It would really feel like this western theme and desert theme
2)The woody area I don’t approve simply because what it would replacing. Tom swayer island and the rivers of America are opening day attractions. The are legacy things at Walt Disney World. The kenetic energy and the vibe that that area gives is amazing. If they would move the woody area I would approve
3) Villains should absolutely be in this park.
4) make big thunder and radiator springs Frontierland
5) I would imagine this would be similar to fantasy springs.
But what better IP to keep Frontierland alive than a rootin' tootin' cowboy and cowgirl from old westerns? That and radiator springs racers would be perfect compliment to Big Thunder Mountain landscape.
@@deannaberry1150 I am not saying it is not a good thing it is just what it would be replacing
It wouldn’t be radiator springs… just the ride and nothing more
Love what you do Braden!! Watched your video 25 minutes after it was up and then showed it 2 additional times to my family members. Boy you got our minds a rolling! I personally think that they need to put the Cars mountains on the edge of the VIllians area and here's why....Use that grand canyon facade's other side and create some dark looking mountains just like in Fantasia!! Then that seperates the different areas but uses one thing twice. I think the effect would be gorgeous on one side and menacing on the others side.
My daughter also thought they need to keep the river because they can use that water front for Ursela and she really wants a water ride with Yzma & Kronk's water-coaster as it's theme. My husband thinks they can use the island as a Rapunzel's Rope Course! See what you did? I think Disney can do some great things if they all just hired us for their team!! Keep up the great work!
my daughter and i just went to tim sawyer island the other day and i really hope they keep it! it’s like a nice little getaway from the crowds and my daughter loves the guns in the fort!
Enough with the IP attractions. Can Imagineering Imagine?
I get it but look around that’s where the industry is going. Don’t see people complaining about this for epic universe.
@Huntbeck33 And yet Universal STUDIOS never had non-IP rides & attractions like Disneyland/Disney World always did, did it? And what are the most enduring rides at the Disney parks? Non-IP.
At least 10 years before we’ll see it. 8 years after Epic opens.
and by that time epic universe will probably be expanded too 😂
@@bobbyswanson3498 they do have room to expand so if they haven’t expanded by then thry can say next year we’ll have blah portal built too.
10yrs, nah 20 😂
Yes, and the exciting part of Epic is with exception of the Nintendo part, these will all be new and original rides. Plus at the same time there is talk to also bring brand new Zelda, Luigi's mansion, and Pokemon attractions to the parks in the future. That's why if you are Disney building clones is not going to cut it.
Believe it or not, they are already working on ‘Epic’ expansions! Disney is not going to be able to keep up no matter what they do. Unless they can start building at 10xs the speed. 😉
Hey Brayden, awesome update as always!!!
I greatly appreciate your passion and excitement for WDW, while still being honest when things aren’t on par with Walt’s original aspirations.
It’s exciting to see new lands and attractions on the horizon again, but wondering if you’ve heard anything on areas of the resort that are in rough shape getting some much needed attention/investment as well?
One in particular is the Transportation and Ticket Center, it’s rundown and outdated, with so many issues:
•Abandoned gift shop and its signage still present after all these years.
•Blacked out windows on abandoned spaces.
•Mismatched theming/colors that are all over the place.
•Railings broken or held together with tape, no joke!
•Outdated fluorescent lighting filled with mold, bugs, water and dirt. With a significant number not working and/or starting to fall off.
•Outdated buildings that have zero theming related to the Magic Kingdom.
Just a few thoughts on what should be a GRAND entryway as we head into the Magic Kingdom.
Hope it gets the attention it deserves, among other areas like Tomorrowland!
If the train is affected, I hope they either reroute the train first to go around the construction, or have the train run with 2 trains going forward/backward alternately so it's still operating transportation and not just outright unavailable for years again.
Heck no on Radiator Springs Racers coming over. Lets leave some unique eticket rides at each resort. No clones!
It sounds like Villains will get an e-ticket, so at least will get something special there. There's some amazing possibilities for rides in that land.
Thanks for the info! Tired of the same attractions being copied. If you must, keep the ride the same but theme it as something different.
I think the move to a Bayou land, desert land, and villains land is a really great plan.
With that being said, I feel that toy story attraction should go to Toy Story land and radiator springs racers should go to animation courtyard in HS
I agree with the water point. It’s just nice to have water at a park. I really hope they don’t get rid of alll the water
I agree it’s important to appreciate what we have now! We never know what tomorrow may bring!
Just speculation. Liberty Belle gets docked and turned into a seasonal restaurant.
I think that makes a lot of sense.
I like the idea but it can’t be seasonal imo
There was a riverboat in Princess & the Frog.... could you imagine if they put Louis & Ray on that boat, how popular it would become?
A middle ground of keeping: a smaller section of Rivers of America, and a smaller Tom Sawyer Island, while adding two new areas would be nice.
It would be really cool if they used the expansions as an opportunity to add something(s) to the train ride through these areas, as currently that corner is really the only section of the train ride with any animatronics.
My husband has been waiting for a Villains’ section since we eloped to WDW in 1990 and they were saying that was a possibility. Thanks for the info Brayden…we will be keeping our fingers crossed!!!!
They won't stop till every park is exactly the same!
exactly!!! so tired of the duplication of rides a couple classics is fine, but not everything! ugh!
I used to agree with this, but after seeing stats of how often people visit Disney, or even an average Six Flags, it makes sense why they do this. 99% of the guests may only make a single Disney trip in their lifetime, and it's even more unlikely they would visit 2 Disney parks. Just like Batman: The Ride was duplicated across Six Flags, very few people ever visit another park except their local one in town.
I think it’s some kind of miracle the Avatar expansion land at Disneyland is a new design
There is also so much land behind New Fantasyland that could be further developed. I have overlayed maps and Zootopia Land from Shanghai, and the Beauty and the Beast ride and Rapunzel mini-land from Tokyo all fit back there, with plenty of room for more princesses to get attractions. I would love to see something like this happen after Beyond Big Thunder.
That land behind Fantasyland can't be developed. That backstage area is the main backstage area for Magic Kingdom and it has the tunnel entrance for CMs. It's also where supply deliveries are brought in, dumpsters dropped there to be emptied, large freezers are located. It's just not possible to relocate that backstage area, so it's not ever going to be developed.
@@EllieSven Moving or building around that would be significantly easier than filling in Rivers of America.
I'm oddly liking this idea. The only thing I question is Car's and taking out the River, because Car's is so unique and special for DCA and the river is such a nice water feature. However I love the desert themed land idea, just hope it's more like Grizzly Gulch and less random IP thrown in. Same thing with shortening Rivers of America, I am fine with it just make sure there is some type of water feature and if you want bring back the canoe's. I love the Bayou/New Orleans land idea and expanding Liberty Square. As well as loving the villains land, hopefully we get something Hades or Chernabog/Fantasia themed. Whatever we get I just want it to be unique, not a clone, well themed, and not a land themed around one movie or franchise. I personally love the Tropical America's idea/land and am excited for this.
Thanks as always for what you do. To keep us informed.
Radiator springs racers would be cool, would love the scenery it would bring in, but I really need some classic old west stuff too
And I will be extremely saddened if they get rid of rivers if america
Let’s go Braydon!!
So much Mickey Views content lately! Thank you, Brayden!!!
Absolutely no possible way that Disney will do away with the riverboat
Just tell me if they have any plans to fix the yeti
Joe Rhode said he would fix theYeti, if it’s the last thing he ever did. But I believe the actual last thing he ever did was turn in his Disney ID to human resources.
Radiator Spring Racer would be the most spectacular attraction if it was a manually driver go-kart ride.
Imagine the fun!
I want MK to expand. But I also want it to make sense and be original (like a toy story ride in toy story land, and no cloned rides) and also they will probably up the capacity numbers instead of keeping them the same, so the number problem won't improve. Also if they are gonna make any changes, they need to update or change the speedway to be electric so it will fit tomorrowland more or a new ride that will take up more capacity
heading to the parks next week! originally was only going to do one MG day, but I think I'm going to add another half day just to make sure I have time to enjoy all this! also I've never been to tom sawyer island so now thats a must do!
thank you brayden!
Haunted Mansion restaurant or bistro would totally work on the other side of the graveyard. Could utilize the Carlotta and the butler face character year round!!
Chicken tenders and cheap theming
@@kkraut speaking of chicken tenders and cheap theming, how about them radiator springs mountains…? They look just like a Popeyes rip n dip chicken box. Look it up and tell me I’m lying 🤨 😂
Bring us something brand new, unless its something that you can only ride in Asian Disney parks
Mystic Manor in a Disney Park would be amazing. Too bad it's not a IP, so that will never happen, but one can dream.
Keep it coming...good work
Brayden,you are simply the best news and views out there…Honest reviews and updates and things you would make different or tweet without an agenda,thanks
Disney needs a new land desperately and stop changing existing rides/areas. I love Disney but Universal is pulling ahead big-time
Which is why Disney needs a 5th park dedicated to villians and marvel
Absolutely 😊
Universal: Closes Jaws, Back to the Future and Earthquake
@@humbertoribeiro3192 Yeah no good with that either both parks need to keep the og rides
If Universal Studios decided bring back all those original attractions whether new or as it was it would make studios park basically the same level as Epic Universe..
LIFE IS A HIGHWAY BAYBEE!!!!
To add, I will miss all that was. As we have all missed all that once was. 😢
I want Cars Land too!! We need more little boy stuff!
Little by little removing American culture from the parks. a BIG mistake. its part of the original brand.
Gotta virtue signal. Hating America is the first step.
Not liking the sound of this to be honest. Don’t know why they are closing stuff when trying to improve capacity. Cars land a much better fit for Hollywood studios or not at all and keep it Disneyland exclusive and villains is a good enough concept for
The eventual 5th gate..
Agree with you 100%!
They got tons of available land, leave magic kingdom as much as it's original self for vintage reasons and instead they should build a 5th gate. For Magic Kingdom they should just probably add one more attractive behind thunder that doesn't require destroying Frontierland.
First thing this area absolutely needs - train station! Magic Kingdom is already a big park, guests walk many miles, and this expansion is putting a few extra miles on the day. While it definitely needs pedestrian access, its primary access needs to be transport. One option would be a shorter river, a second boat dock, and bridges over the access waterway to preserve that. They can't get rid of the waterway altogether, that would completely gut the park! And I'm not sure it would even be technically possible without a whole lot of water management headaches.
I'm ok with the idea of effectively moving Frontierland to the other side of Big Thunder, but it absolutely needs to be tied to a land! And I'm ok with IP attractions, I'm not ok with IP mini-lands. It looks like Animal Kingdom is coming out better balanced with the concept of "Tropical Americas" land, and IPs that suit it. I'm sure imagineering is coming up with an actual name?
But importing Radiator Springs Racers? so many problems. Firstly, Test Track, it's so clearly the same base, guests won't bother with the queues - certainly won't pay - for both. Second, Radiator Springs is absolutely awesome but it needs the grounding of Cars Land, the IP is such a weird concept that those characters totally don't interact with the real world. Thirdly, it works so well in DCA where you're suspending your disbelief but you know you're limited within a city block, you excuse its slightly claustrophobic lack of sightlines. This helps with isolating the weirdness of the IP, but put that in Magic Kingdom and you'll really amplify the claustrophobic feeling, especially next to Big Thunder which doesn't try to hide the neighbouring biomes! Fourth, Big Thunder and Radiator Springs hit many of the same notes - speed, thrill, a level of interacting with other vehicles. The new area definitely needs E ticket attractions, but it's kinda the same problem as putting Tron next to Space Mountain, they fight rather than compliment each other. Something more complimentary would be a good, high tech dark ride (yes I know, the first half of Radiator Springs Racers...) but it needs an attraction that's not a high speed race around magnificent desert landscape, not more of the same.
I thought the cars franchise was planned to go in Hollywood Studios
Those were plans from a decade ago like right after Cars Land as a phase 4 for Hollywood Studios.
@@darien5712 exactly so why is rumor to put in the Magic Kingdom that doesn’t make any sense
@drewadventurehistorytv because of the desert theme 🏜 and same color of Big Thunder Mountain with The Cars Valley.
@@darien5712 I understand that but the reality is putting a cars land in Magic Kingdom behind Big Thunder Mountain would be an inappropriate location for because the cars franchise doesn’t technically represent Frontierland or talks about the Wild West if you put a cars land in Hollywood Studios that would make more sense because you would have Toy Story land and Cars land right next to each other because these are the two biggest car’s franchises and besides Disney originally announced cars land would be part of phase 4 of Hollywood Studios because we already phase 1 which was Toy Story land phase 2 Star Wars Galaxy’s edge and phase 3 Mickey & Minnie’s Runway Railway
@@drewadventurehistorytv maybe the cars can be having a Wild West fair or something 😂
No more copy paste clone rides!!!!
Radiator Springs Racers in that area might look great with the mountain range behind Big Thunder, but I really hope this isn't true. I've heard RSR rumored for DHS for the longest time, but even that -- can they stop cloning attractions domestically? There are already so many clones and these parks need to maintain originality. Even if there are differences in the clones, they're still clones. Hopefully, we get something new!
This is Huge News Can’t wait Thank you Brayden for posting this upcoming park project.
Disney should create a 5th gate for all these ideas. Stop cannibalizing MK and it's history.
A 5th gate would lessen the crowds and demand in MK and more people would ride stuff instead of wait in insufferable lines all day.
I guess Radiator Springs could work behind Big Thunder? Because the rock work blends in well
THANK YOU BRAYDEN THIS & TEST TRACK UPDATE ARE HUGE WINS FOR CAR LOVERS!
So nice to actually be excited about new things coming Disney world!
I do not get the fascination with why they feel they need a New Orleans themed area. I know there’s the French Quarter resort and we love it but the actual New Orleans has such a stigma of being unsafe and dirty.
I hate the idea of Cars coming to this area it doesn't fit. Nor does Woody themed attraction . Disney messed up w turning splash into Tiana imo .
All their parks are turning into an IP jumble. That's what Universal has been trying to fix about their parks since they built Islands of Adventure. with consistent lands. Disney... thinks they are too important to fail.
@@user-li2yv5je5e Uni put VelociCoaster next to Harry Potter and separated them with a bush. Not exactly the hallmark of themes fitting next to each other... GMAFB
Cars is the single greatest standalone Disney Pixar IP ever created.
@@joemess Disney just put a Louisiana mountain (???) in the Wild West. Universal is crammed into the space of a moderately large shopping mall, what's Disney's excuse?
@@user-li2yv5je5e So you excuse Uni...Your opinion is a biased one. Fine.
1. Getting rid of rivers of america and tom sawyer island in their entirety would be unforgivable. They are unique, timeless and a peaceful break area.
2. Radiator springs and a Woody wild west area would visually fit near Big Thunder, but i dont think Pixar IP fits well in Magic Kingdom.
3. If they did do those latter two ideas, they must integrate the train track through those two areas for kinetic energy like how the train passes over things in Disneyland. Think the opening scene of toy story 3 where its a realistic depiction of the toys in the wild west where the train is involved. Bridges, tunnels, etc. They must do a realistic depiction of Woody’s wild west like that instead of the "toy sized" theming at Hollywood Studios.
Keep up the great work/content !