Excellent video! I did this to my '05 GT about three years ago, using the 3M spray and the old foam, and my passenger side one fell back off within a year. The driver side is still holding all the way around. I found a channel called Old School Auto Upholstery Techniques several months ago, and he swears by the contact cement, though he left that foam-flocking crap in place. He recommends mineral spirits for cleaning the old adhesive off of the back of the vinyl overlay. He fixed a 2011 or 2012 in his video. I am going to try your method on my passenger door! Yeah, I used Gorilla Glue on my headlight tabs, and didn't like how it expanded and oozed out of the seams. You know, you could spray out a leveler on the panel, and get rid of the high spots from remaining glue that way.
The problem with his contact cement alternative, is once the felt or foam backing material deteriorates, what's going to be left for the contact cement to remain attached to? No offense, but I don't buy into the "Old School Auto Upholstery Techniques" method for a single moment, as once the backing material continues to deteriorate, it's only going to be a matter of time before the reglued vinyl panel insert begins to separate once again from the deteriorating felt/foam backing material!
@@rmp5841 I removed the foam backing this time around, so that variable should be out of the equation. I will do the same when my driver side insert falls off again, but it seems to be holding well for three years now. I will say that the contact cement will leave some unenjoyable fumes at first, but seems to be holding.
Wow, what tedious process! I appreciate you breaking it down in a simple and understandable manner. My 2010 Mustang has the vinyl peeling off on the door panel as well so I intend to try out your technique in the next few months.
Great job. I am going to give this a try. I tried 3m adhesive twice and had troubles and one time accidently sprayed some on my back window when spraying the panel on the car. I since replace the rear window to so solve that issue. Been a struggle to fix this issue with the peeling leather. My car normally sits out side so it will be a real test to see how long it lasts with this new method. I did not remove the foam before so hopefully that helps. I was planning to give that contact cement a try after seeing it suggested in a forum. If it does not work maybe just remove the adhesive and keep the black plastic look instead.
The vinyl has a foam backing on it..all foam eventually deteriorates and the vinyl or fabric seperate...its rarely the glue..Im PRETTY SURE on that as I've been doibg car interiors for 38 years..
Arrived at this video trying to fix my 2008 BMW door panel inserts, with the foam disintegrated between the leather? and the door panel itself. Funny you mentioned BMW at the end there, seems they never learned their lesson from the 90s models.
I'm curious how practical it would be to remove the original cover and simply clean all the residue off the base plastic and leave it like that. Is there any chemical that would dissolve the old glue but not damage the plastic, and if so, would the plastic by itself be nice enough to just leave the upholstery off and still have it look presentable? Maybe even paint it the same color as the outside of the car?
Cleaning all that off is no small task. Plus, it's usually dried glue, which doesn't respond to most chemical solutions. I think the base V6 cars did without upholstery there; may be easier to just swap panels.
Found a better way to get that bastard edge off without much muss or fuss. Basically I slowly went down the top of the fabric with anything you can use to pry it, but when getting to the edge, make sure not to tear or rip anything. Pry your way to the edge and pull the fabric down so the inside (that's attached to the panel) is facing you. Take a razor (I used an exacto knife) and carefully cut along the edge of the plastic. This will cut on the inside where the adhesive is and will leave much less material to fish out, I learned that after doing passenger side. Good luck to everyone that sees this.
Nice video. Did mine with 3M first in about 15 on my 08. Same result as you with 3M, but probably my fault. Ended up using Gorilla Glue of all things, and that worked for me. Didn't even have to remove the panel back then for that portion that was coming off. Now, just the lip is disconnecting at the thin bottom piece so I'm back at it.
I have a 2012 mustang and the passenger side door panel just started peeling a month ago. I want to try the contact cement but was curious how it's held up for you over the summer.
I did this fall of 2018. As of today (2020) it is still holding. There are a few spots around the edges that are not firmly in place but I blame this on not getting enough adhesive everywhere - I think it was the first one I did. Other than that, thumbs up!
Plastic rivets can be removed by warming with a heat gun, then installed doing the reverse.. 42 years of auto upholstery experience. More advice, NEVER use 3M anything. Only contact adhesive. Remove (Sticky stuff) with mineral spirits. Prep your surface. Like a new paint job over bad bodywork. (Upholstery edging, beading) is called WELT. May your next door panel job be better and better!
You covered every angle imaginable, which I like, because I think similarly. I sometimes wonder if the old time cars whereas just about everything was made of metal may have been the right way to go. :) That being said, everything eventually fails. So if my repair ultimately fails I won’t be to disappointed. Thanks for the great video!
Excellent video! I did this to my '05 GT about three years ago, using the 3M spray and the old foam, and my passenger side one fell back off within a year. The driver side is still holding all the way around. I found a channel called Old School Auto Upholstery Techniques several months ago, and he swears by the contact cement, though he left that foam-flocking crap in place. He recommends mineral spirits for cleaning the old adhesive off of the back of the vinyl overlay. He fixed a 2011 or 2012 in his video.
I am going to try your method on my passenger door!
Yeah, I used Gorilla Glue on my headlight tabs, and didn't like how it expanded and oozed out of the seams.
You know, you could spray out a leveler on the panel, and get rid of the high spots from remaining glue that way.
The problem with his contact cement alternative, is once the felt or foam backing material deteriorates, what's going to be left for the contact cement to remain attached to? No offense, but I don't buy into the "Old School Auto Upholstery Techniques" method for a single moment, as once the backing material continues to deteriorate, it's only going to be a matter of time before the reglued vinyl panel insert begins to separate once again from the deteriorating felt/foam backing material!
@@rmp5841 I removed the foam backing this time around, so that variable should be out of the equation. I will do the same when my driver side insert falls off again, but it seems to be holding well for three years now.
I will say that the contact cement will leave some unenjoyable fumes at first, but seems to be holding.
Wow, what tedious process! I appreciate you breaking it down in a simple and understandable manner. My 2010 Mustang has the vinyl peeling off on the door panel as well so I intend to try out your technique in the next few months.
Great job. I am going to give this a try. I tried 3m adhesive twice and had troubles and one time accidently sprayed some on my back window when spraying the panel on the car. I since replace the rear window to so solve that issue. Been a struggle to fix this issue with the peeling leather. My car normally sits out side so it will be a real test to see how long it lasts with this new method. I did not remove the foam before so hopefully that helps. I was planning to give that contact cement a try after seeing it suggested in a forum. If it does not work maybe just remove the adhesive and keep the black plastic look instead.
I'm just now starting to see some peel back on the front edge of the first one I did. So this lasted several years for me.
The vinyl has a foam backing on it..all foam eventually deteriorates and the vinyl or fabric seperate...its rarely the glue..Im PRETTY SURE on that as I've been doibg car interiors for 38 years..
Shop were I live said they couldn't find a glue that stuck always came back off told me to clean it good and paint it
See my follow up video. This system works, with slight modifications.
Arrived at this video trying to fix my 2008 BMW door panel inserts, with the foam disintegrated between the leather? and the door panel itself. Funny you mentioned BMW at the end there, seems they never learned their lesson from the 90s models.
im surprised people haven't tried the glue cobblers use for shoe welts
I'm curious how practical it would be to remove the original cover and simply clean all the residue off the base plastic and leave it like that. Is there any chemical that would dissolve the old glue but not damage the plastic, and if so, would the plastic by itself be nice enough to just leave the upholstery off and still have it look presentable? Maybe even paint it the same color as the outside of the car?
Cleaning all that off is no small task. Plus, it's usually dried glue, which doesn't respond to most chemical solutions. I think the base V6 cars did without upholstery there; may be easier to just swap panels.
I just tried 3m77 on mine, it doesnt hold at all
Found a better way to get that bastard edge off without much muss or fuss. Basically I slowly went down the top of the fabric with anything you can use to pry it, but when getting to the edge, make sure not to tear or rip anything. Pry your way to the edge and pull the fabric down so the inside (that's attached to the panel) is facing you. Take a razor (I used an exacto knife) and carefully cut along the edge of the plastic. This will cut on the inside where the adhesive is and will leave much less material to fish out, I learned that after doing passenger side. Good luck to everyone that sees this.
Nice video. Did mine with 3M first in about 15 on my 08. Same result as you with 3M, but probably my fault. Ended up using Gorilla Glue of all things, and that worked for me. Didn't even have to remove the panel back then for that portion that was coming off. Now, just the lip is disconnecting at the thin bottom piece so I'm back at it.
That's crazy I used gorilla glue too just cuz I tried everything else and it was used sitting in the garage it worked the best
The upholstery trim is called "piping". All colors are available on E Bay.
If you want a glue that lasts longer get 3 M vinyl top adhesive. 3 M part #38808. Not headliner glue. Exterior vinyl top glue.
Nice video. Exactly what i needed. Where can I the upholstery trim edging?? I tried everywhere online or at the store .. thanks
I got mine on Ebay.
Frog Tape works great!
Why wouldn’t you use a heat gun?
In what way?
Man. What a PITA.
Great video
Can you do one on replacing a core support on a 65 F100?
You could teach me, lol
I bought a replacement plastic piece for mine.
Hi. Do you have the link for the upholstery edge trim you used? Thank you!
I bought it on Ebay, so no, sorry.
My car has both of the layers peeling off
Microwave your type it revives the adhesive
How is this holding up
So far so good. Car sits in the garage mostly. The real test will be in the summer.
I have a 2012 mustang and the passenger side door panel just started peeling a month ago. I want to try the contact cement but was curious how it's held up for you over the summer.
I did this fall of 2018. As of today (2020) it is still holding. There are a few spots around the edges that are not firmly in place but I blame this on not getting enough adhesive everywhere - I think it was the first one I did. Other than that, thumbs up!
@@mongrelmotorsports Thanks for the reply. I'll be doing mine in a few weeks. I'm going to brush it on and hopefully it will work.
That foam is the glue it's the same thing that's used for headliners the glue turns to foam
How long did this last?
Hi Tessa, it just started to peel again this past fall. Just the edge is loose. Should be an easy fix.
@@mongrelmotorsports thank you!
There is a plastic peace just replace no fabric no glue
I prefer the upholstery. I've also heard they don't fit all that well.
Plastic rivets can be removed by warming with a heat gun, then installed doing the reverse.. 42 years of auto upholstery experience. More advice, NEVER use 3M anything. Only contact adhesive. Remove (Sticky stuff) with mineral spirits. Prep your surface. Like a new paint job over bad bodywork. (Upholstery edging, beading) is called WELT. May your next door panel job be better and better!
Will the heat gun help to remove the whole panel?
@@SG-cg9kw Not really because the glue needs to be separated then the surface needs to be prepped for the new material.
This video could have been 4 minutes long...
I look forward to watching your superior 4 minute video.
You covered every angle imaginable, which I like, because I think similarly. I sometimes wonder if the old time cars whereas just about everything was made of metal may have been the right way to go. :) That being said, everything eventually fails. So if my repair ultimately fails I won’t be to disappointed. Thanks for the great video!
Shut....the eff...up, and tell me what glue to use. JFC!!