Here in the northern woods of the lower peninsula of MI, I hunt with a Thompson Center Contender 10" bbl in .30-30. I use Winchester Deer Season XP 150 grn. They work extremely well, even out of the 10" bbl. They expand perfectly and if they don't go all the way thru, they are found under the skin on the opposite side of entry, destroying everything in between. Enjoyed the video!!
Accuracy and "dropping power "were certainly underestimated .I witnessed a friend headshoot at a paced off 100 yards a coyote with an iron sighted Trapper (16" 1894).At night 🌙 😳. I held the 1million candle power spotlight and watched the copper color of the flat bullet base as it made a gentle arc toward the 'yote's noggin.
You're not old. You're not fat. But you might be a dad. And I like your videos. Haha Big fan of the .30-30. It's not a magnum. It's not a 400 yard hammer. It's a 200+ yard hammer and what it does, it does better than just about any other .30.
Like you said, it's all in the bullet construction. There are copper bullets made for the 30-30 that can be used in other calibers. Barnes and Nosler make them. They expand well at low velocities and give the benefit of a Lead-free hunting round.
I agree with your estimation of the difference in the rounds. If you used the same round in all 3 caliber i believe the results would have been different. I’ve never shot 300 blackout, but that 308 would have given you more damage on the back side of a deer whereas the 30 30 expended its energy upon contact. That’s why your melon exploded the most from the 30 30 also !!!
@@TheOldFatDadGoober I enjoy watching channels that don’t have 10,000,000 subscribers. But u will someday, you have good content like comparing different calibers. That’s the kind of stuff I look for. Thanks for what u do !!!
TOFD G. Good video. Nice shooting. I have never been a hunter, but it looks like there is a fair amount of effort involved to taking down a deer, get it out of the woods and then get it processed. Well done. Thanks for sharing. Take care.
Thanks for watching! It is a little bit of work, but once you get the hang of it it's not too bad. Best thing to do is start small with rabbits or squirrels and see if you like it before tackling the big stuff. Or just eat other people's venison, there's usually plenty to go around.
@@TheOldFatDadGoober Thanks. You did good and did it well. I'll probably stick with hamburgers. Rather than being out in the cold. When I was kid, I helped butcher pigs and that was enough for me. Thanks again.
Just seemed to me that you shot low with the .308, and that skewed the results. But I'm sure the bullet construction did have something to do with the results as well. The flat tip on the .30-30 gave it a greater initial impact.
My friend brought a 300blk to Texas for a hog hunt. When our guide saw it, he asked him not to use it and use his other rifle. The guide said the 300blk accounts for more wounded game than any other caliber. My 30-30 took four hogs with the 150gr bullet from 40 to 270 yards. Winchester got it right in 1894.
I suspect this project comes down to "any excuse to make a noisy, smelly mess". Some things never change, but that's just the Older Fatter Grandpa rambling.
If you want to use a 30 caliber rifle use one that has been proven effective for decades. Turning a cartridge that was made for a 22 caliber projectile into something it’s not. There is plenty of load data out there to adjust a 308 to whatever your needs are to hunt.
35 to 50 yards is about qll you can see in the woods around here. I got my 50 beowulf for this, I load it down in velocity. High velocity bloodshot the meat to much
@@TheOldFatDadGoober First of all, ballistic tip is proprietary to nosler. A lot of people see a bullet with a plastic tip and call it a ballistic tip, when that is not the case. Off the top of my head, all the following have plastic tips: hornady Sst, hornady eld-x, nosler ballistic tip, nosler accubond, barnes ttsx, and sierra tipped game king. All have plastic tips yet all are very different bullets and will perform very differently. Yes, the actual nosler ballistic tip will expand violently at high velocity, but should be fine in a .308...even more so in 168gr vs.150 gr. If you get nosler ballistic tips, and they are accurate, they will be fine.
You shot low with 308 as well both times. slow mo on the melon hit low left, and the mustard and explosion shows low hit second time as well. That said i'm glad as a hunter I never used the plastic tips.
The second shot from The 300 blk hit the trim in front of the table and the table before hitting the target. I liked the video but he shot low several times.
That’s like apples and oranges Comparing 308 30/30 To 300 blk I think you should redo this 308 30/06 30/30 300 WM Also better shot placement would help I would assume if you aim at the top of the Birkenstock you should hit low middle Depending on what your rifles are zeroed at Keep up the great vids brother Safe shooting
Thanks for watching! The 300 Blackout is in the same ballpark as the 7.62x39 and 5.56. For longer shots, probably not a great choice, but effective 100 yards and in.
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Here in the northern woods of the lower peninsula of MI, I hunt with a Thompson Center Contender 10" bbl in .30-30. I use Winchester Deer Season XP 150 grn. They work extremely well, even out of the 10" bbl. They expand perfectly and if they don't go all the way thru, they are found under the skin on the opposite side of entry, destroying everything in between. Enjoyed the video!!
Thanks for watching! I've spent a lot of time in those woods, beautiful country.
I remember when TC was introduced. Thought they looked cool. Shot .44 magnum out of a 14 inch barrel. Extreme accuracy and mild perceived recoil.
30-30 and 22 lr are the two most underestimated rounds
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Accuracy and "dropping power "were certainly underestimated .I witnessed a friend headshoot at a paced off 100 yards a coyote with an iron sighted Trapper (16" 1894).At night 🌙 😳. I held the 1million candle power spotlight and watched the copper color of the flat bullet base as it made a gentle arc toward the 'yote's noggin.
@@terrywadsworth5645 I think Paul Harrell did a video on it
The .30-30 is pretty impressive! It would be fun to see it compared to 7.62x39
Thanks for watching! That's a good idea!
As long as they are both soft point ! Every youtuber makes the same mistake.
The Paul Harrell reference had me laughing way too hard. 😂
Thanks for watching! I strive to be as great as Paul!
Good attitude and personality is a rare combination these days.
Thanks for watching! I appreciate the kind words.
Paul would definitely slap you for adopting the “Meat Target” trademark.
@@evphex I actually had a comment from him in one of my earliest videos. I think he gave me his blessings.
The last shot on the 300 black out you hit the wood sticking out the front of the target stand before it hit the actual target.
Thanks for watching! Doh!
From now on, I sure will be using the .30-30 when hunting melons!
Thanks for watching! I've heard it called the premier melon hunting round.
I’ve been thinking of getting a lever action rifle and I think you’ve sold me on the 30-30 sir. Great video!
Thanks for watching! It's a great cartridge.
You're not old. You're not fat. But you might be a dad.
And I like your videos. Haha
Big fan of the .30-30. It's not a magnum. It's not a 400 yard hammer. It's a 200+ yard hammer and what it does, it does better than just about any other .30.
Thanks for watching! I like to think that being an old fat dad is a
state of mind! 🤔
@@TheOldFatDadGoober Saw a t-shirt on the internet earlier today: "It's weird being the same age as old people." Hahaha
always fun to watch, thanks
Thanks for watching!
Like you said, it's all in the bullet construction. There are copper bullets made for the 30-30 that can be used in other calibers. Barnes and Nosler make them. They expand well at low velocities and give the benefit of a Lead-free hunting round.
Thanks for watching! I'm starting to move to all copper for hunting. Makes me feel better when I'm feeding my kids.
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I agree. It saves animals that feed on the offal too.
@@untermench3502 Very good point.
I don't think they are lead-free, but covered by a thin layer of copper. Better than bare lead though.
I agree with your estimation of the difference in the rounds. If you used the same round in all 3 caliber i believe the results would have been different. I’ve never shot 300 blackout, but that 308 would have given you more damage on the back side of a deer whereas the 30 30 expended its energy upon contact. That’s why your melon exploded the most from the 30 30 also !!!
Thanks for watching!
@@TheOldFatDadGoober I enjoy watching channels that don’t have 10,000,000 subscribers. But u will someday, you have good content like comparing different calibers. That’s the kind of stuff I look for. Thanks for what u do !!!
TOFD G. Good video. Nice shooting. I have never been a hunter, but it looks like there is a fair amount of effort involved to taking down a deer, get it out of the woods and then get it processed. Well done. Thanks for sharing. Take care.
Thanks for watching! It is a little bit of work, but once you get the hang of it it's not too bad. Best thing to do is start small with rabbits or squirrels and see if you like it before tackling the big stuff. Or just eat other people's venison, there's usually plenty to go around.
@@TheOldFatDadGoober Thanks. You did good and did it well. I'll probably stick with hamburgers. Rather than being out in the cold. When I was kid, I helped butcher pigs and that was enough for me. Thanks again.
I think for a hunting load, the 300blk should be around the 110 grain loading.
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TOFD G. Hey, another good and fun video. The old .30-.30 did the job well. Paul has nothing on you! Thanks for sharing and take care.
Thanks for watching! I hope to be half the man Paul is one day!
Thanks for watching! I hope to be half the man Paul is one day!
@@TheOldFatDadGoober You're right, Paul is the MAN! I watch all his videos. He has experienced and done a lot.
Just seemed to me that you shot low with the .308, and that skewed the results. But I'm sure the bullet construction did have something to do with the results as well. The flat tip on the .30-30 gave it a greater initial impact.
Thanks for watching! I didn't hit low on the melon though. Same kind of difference in that test too.
I've never thought of 300blk being a hunting round
Thanks for watching! Lots of people love it! Check this video out:
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Made for hunting game of the 2 legged kind 😉
Flat nose shells always make bigger hits then pointed shells
Thanks for watching! Worked out that way this time for sure.
My friend brought a 300blk to Texas for a hog hunt. When our guide saw it, he asked him not to use it and use his other rifle. The guide said the 300blk accounts for more wounded game than any other caliber. My 30-30 took four hogs with the 150gr bullet from 40 to 270 yards. Winchester got it right in 1894.
Thanks for watching!
They still use the 30-30 in Utah for death penalty firing squad! 😨
No real surprises here though, right? This is what I expected.
Thanks for watching! No surprises, but I think it's helpful to illustrate the differences.
I suspect this project comes down to "any excuse to make a noisy, smelly mess". Some things never change, but that's just the Older Fatter Grandpa rambling.
Thanks for watching!
Greetings from Germany..., love your Content....!!! Got a CZ Shadow 2..., a CZ 557 in in .308 and a HK MR223/556....
Thanks for watching! Those are some great firearms!
If you want to use a 30 caliber rifle use one that has been proven effective for decades. Turning a cartridge that was made for a 22 caliber projectile into something it’s not. There is plenty of load data out there to adjust a 308 to whatever your needs are to hunt.
Thanks for watching!
Hunting those deadly deadly honeydews
Thanks for watching! Always stay strapped when the honeydews are out.
35 to 50 yards is about qll you can see in the woods around here. I got my 50 beowulf for this, I load it down in velocity. High velocity bloodshot the meat to much
Great caliber for that situation.
Thanks for the video. I wonder how much of a difference it may or may not make if you use ballistic tips..
Thanks for watching! The 308 did have a ballistic tip.
@@TheOldFatDadGoober First of all, ballistic tip is proprietary to nosler. A lot of people see a bullet with a plastic tip and call it a ballistic tip, when that is not the case. Off the top of my head, all the following have plastic tips: hornady Sst, hornady eld-x, nosler ballistic tip, nosler accubond, barnes ttsx, and sierra tipped game king. All have plastic tips yet all are very different bullets and will perform very differently. Yes, the actual nosler ballistic tip will expand violently at high velocity, but should be fine in a .308...even more so in 168gr vs.150 gr. If you get nosler ballistic tips, and they are accurate, they will be fine.
30-30 is ridiculously good
In west Virginia it is a popular choice
Thanks for watching! Is that good or bad?
It's pretty popular here in South Carolina too.
Wasn't expecting the rotting fruit great slo mo . Love it o ya those rounds I mentioned are rem. Golden saber not htp+ p my bad. Still love ur work.
Thanks for watching!
How far away were you from the deer you got this year?
Thanks for watching! I've got a video about it in the works. From 20 to 100 yards is the answer though.
You shot low with 308 as well both times. slow mo on the melon hit low left, and the mustard and explosion shows low hit second time as well. That said i'm glad as a hunter I never used the plastic tips.
Thanks for watching!
The second shot from
The 300 blk hit the trim in front of the table and the table before hitting the target. I liked the video but he shot low several times.
Thanks for watching! I see it too, messed up a couple of those shots.
U hit the table first on the 300 black test on both shots 🤣
What is closer to 30-30, 308 or 300BO?
Thanks for watching! I'd say 308 is closer.
That’s like apples and oranges
Comparing 308 30/30
To 300 blk
I think you should redo this
308 30/06 30/30 300 WM
Also better shot placement would help
I would assume if you aim at the top of the Birkenstock you should hit low middle
Depending on what your rifles are zeroed at
Keep up the great vids brother
Safe shooting
Thanks for watching! If I ever pick up a 300 win mag I'll take another look at the 30's.
I wonder if a 125 gr fn in 300 blk would do? 😊
Thanks for watching! It could. There are some good bullets out there.
2nd 300blk round hit the table first at 11:27
Thanks for watching! Dang, looks like it did. Have to do that one again.
Where’s the 30-06???
@@Smoketownedc Thanks for watching! I've never owned one 😬
Pse do 7.62*39. And more aguila.22 LR interceptor HP and normal from a 20 inch barrel, 150 yards. U can do it 💪
Thanks for watching! Unfortunately I'm not setup to do those tests right now. I will if I get the ammo and rifles though.
The 300 savage should be looked at also.
Thanks for watching! I'll check it out.
on paper the .308 is very similar in performance to .30-06. I like the shorter case of the .308
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Kind of surprised at the effectiveness of the .30-.30 vis a vis the others. IMHO, the 300Blk is underpowered for most larger game...
Thanks for watching! The 300 Blackout is in the same ballpark as the 7.62x39 and 5.56. For longer shots, probably not a great choice, but effective 100 yards and in.
You nicked the corner of the shoe with the 300BO As you stated then the second shot hit the table. The poor performance of that thing is on you.
Thanks for watching! Story of my life.
The 308 is a slightly better round.
Thanks for watching! I do love my 308.
.308 tried and true
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I think the .300 blk hit the table on the Birkenstock meat target shot
Thanks for watching! After review the footage again, I think you're right. I don't think a higher shot would have made much of a difference though.
This guys shooting is pretty bad. At 10 yards he almost missed the entire target. Not a good test to make a comparison.
Thanks for watching!