Ford 460 Engine Build Part 3 - Horsepower S13, E10

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  • Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
  • On this episode, the Horsepower team completes the Ford 460 build by testing it on the dyno.
    PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE
    ATI Performance Products: 6.325" Steel shell Super Damper, LS1 Crank Pin Drill Fixture Kit.
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    Comp Cams: Mutha Thumper, 283THR7High Performance Street/Strip Camshaft., SB Chevy & GEN III/LS1/LS2/LS6 High Energy O.E.-Style Hydraulic Roller Lifters -Set Of 16., Pro Magnum Rocker ArmтДв Upgrade Kits; Gen III/LS1/LS6 1.85:1, 5/16" Pushrods, 1.75 Ratio., Keyway Adjustable Billet Timing Sets; GM Gen III (LS1/LS6)., Composite Distributor Gear.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_...
    E3 Spark Plugs: DiamondFire Spark Plugs.
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    Holley: Street HP 750 CFM Four Barrel Street/Strip Carburetor.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_...
    Holley: 4150HP design, 1000 CFM Four Barrel Race Carburetor.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_...
    Kooks Custom Headers: 2 1/8" Primary 4" Collector Custom Dyno Headers with 02 bungs and Cobra Jet flanges.
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    Meziere Enterprises,Inc.: Electric water pump.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_...
    Moroso: 7 quart capacity, "Eliminator" Pan, Ford 429-4601979-95 Mustang and other Fox Chassis. Oil pump pickup and dipstick.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_...
    MSD Ignition: Pro-Billet Distributor, 8.5mm Super Conductor wires.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_...
    MSD Ignition: ProBillet distributor 351C-460, Black wire set universal 8.5mm Super Conductor.
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    Trick Flow Specialties: Trick Flow PowerPort Street/Strip Cylinder Heads for Ford 429/460. 72cc combustion chambers.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_...
    Trick Flow Specialties: Trick Flow Track Heat Intake Manifold for Ford 429/460.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_...
    Trick Flow Specialties: Trick Flow Specialities Main Stud Girdle.
    More info: pntv.us/pb_pt_...
    Trick Flow Specialties: Valve Covers, Tall, Fabricated Aluminum, Natural, Trick Flow Logo, Ford, Big Block.
    More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_...
    Comp Cams: Custom grind hydraulic roller camshaft and lifters specs by Jon Kaase Racing Engines,Inc., Hi-Tech 3/8" Pushrods 8.20".
    ITW Dymon: Machinist dye
    Jon Kaase Racing Engines, Inc.: Custom spec grind camshaft, Double pinned camshaft and timing set, bronze thrust plate, modified oil pump.
    Pace Performance: Front timing cover and cam distributor drive for carburetor conversion. Aluminum 4BBL Intake Manifold. Valve Covers and Hardware.
    Power Tool Box: IQv Battery-operated hand tools, impact wrench, ratchet, drill driver, cut-off wheel.
    Wegner Automotive Research: 2.5" Water Pump spacers

Комментарии • 637

  • @PowerNationTV
    @PowerNationTV  5 лет назад +11

    You can subscribe to the PN+ ad-free version for only 99 cents for the first month!
    Link: www.powernationtv.com/user/subscription?promo-code=2019

    • @eddiedelacruz9321
      @eddiedelacruz9321 5 лет назад

      Joe Elmore was always awesome watching on tv. Seems like hes a real trip to hang out with

    • @bryanroupe8646
      @bryanroupe8646 5 лет назад +7

      Your going to loose half of your subs if you keep turning Ford episodes into LS episodes. You went right to the LS before it was even at the half way point of the video.

    • @YetiShots
      @YetiShots 5 лет назад +1

      Fix the dam title.

    • @hessxpress3016
      @hessxpress3016 5 лет назад +2

      Why the hell are you building a boring LS in the middle of a Ford episode. ??? come on guys

    • @bryanroupe8646
      @bryanroupe8646 5 лет назад +1

      Yes it should be called "sucking GM dick" Assholes ...

  • @8068
    @8068 5 лет назад +267

    Back in 1979 I worked at Ford on one of the 385 lines building 460 engines. It does my heart wonders to see one of these old engines brought back to life. Thanks for a great show.

    • @lanceking2818
      @lanceking2818 5 лет назад +27

      I'm probably driving one of your 460s. Still runs great. Thank you.

    • @8068
      @8068 5 лет назад +11

      Your welcome.

    • @rickeydriskill1096
      @rickeydriskill1096 5 лет назад +9

      A 460 is what I run in my 77 F150 4x4. Can't beat it.

    • @TheJsote1988
      @TheJsote1988 5 лет назад +7

      I also run a 460 in a 91 F350...

    • @hishok3332
      @hishok3332 5 лет назад +13

      Yea a 429 scj gives me a stiffie

  • @AT_motors
    @AT_motors 5 лет назад +360

    So glad you guys are going the RUclips route. I've been watching since I was a little kid back in the TNN days

    • @skwerlee
      @skwerlee 5 лет назад +7

      they're still on TV too. I watch on The History Channel

    • @AT_motors
      @AT_motors 5 лет назад +9

      @@skwerlee yea but 6am is too dang early on a Sunday for me

    • @SomethingFunny454
      @SomethingFunny454 5 лет назад

      This episode is from then.

    • @4rcowboy
      @4rcowboy 5 лет назад +2

      Remember the honda civic project?

    • @AT_motors
      @AT_motors 5 лет назад +2

      @@4rcowboy oh yea. That teal one?

  • @whatever305j
    @whatever305j 2 года назад +3

    omg i just went threw a time machine i remember waking up early for school waiting for mom to make breakfast and watching this before the bus arrives and dreaming of getting me a fresh 426 super bee or a hemi cuda man good ol days sad this generation doesnt really have anything like this on tv

  • @Patmanx1
    @Patmanx1 4 месяца назад +1

    Bought a 210hp clunker. Polished junker, new carb, new pistons, made around 370hp. Upgraded air flow and fuel delivery, and made 600hp. Not bad, not bad at all.

  • @413x398
    @413x398 5 лет назад +35

    I was all hypin' on the 460, and then you showed an LS engine. My testosterone level dropped and my nads shrank to 4-year-old size. Gee, thanks a bunch. Next time make anything Shivvy a separate episode so I don't have to throw darts at my monitor.

    • @bryanroupe8646
      @bryanroupe8646 5 лет назад +9

      Right wtf is that. It should be called how to turn a Ford episode into a chebby episode.

    • @troymi1648
      @troymi1648 5 лет назад +6

      I'm so sick of Chevys including that last I could just puke.

    • @guyneault5054
      @guyneault5054 5 лет назад +5

      @@troymi1648
      Did you notice the change in attitude & enthusiasm I'm so done with shows that don't give the blue oval it's due respect!

    • @GreatLakesLogger
      @GreatLakesLogger 4 года назад

      Pucker you guys

  • @CaliforniaBushman
    @CaliforniaBushman 4 года назад +3

    Im glad motorheads get to stay at home and are able to fettishize about valve shape/compression.

  • @MrDavidelliottjr
    @MrDavidelliottjr 5 лет назад +105

    460 making 600 hp na. That's nice💪💪

    • @marshallmcdowell3369
      @marshallmcdowell3369 5 лет назад +20

      With a mostly stock bottom end. Basically a head, cam and intake swap

    • @stevenvanheel3932
      @stevenvanheel3932 5 лет назад +12

      marshall mcdowell the heads and the cam are pretty much the worst part about any stock 460

    • @johndowe7003
      @johndowe7003 5 лет назад +11

      Add another 2k and you can have a 514 stroker for like 100tq more

    • @thedraftdoctor1
      @thedraftdoctor1 5 лет назад +6

      john dowe I’ve got a 514 going in my 1967 Country Sedan wagon

    • @johndowe7003
      @johndowe7003 5 лет назад +4

      @@thedraftdoctor1 nice man, i want to build my 460 to a 514 in my 78 bronco

  • @BarnStangz
    @BarnStangz 5 лет назад +15

    Pretty stout 460 for sure. Great engine, I still have one on my farm in an old truck. They just live forever!

  • @IETCHX69
    @IETCHX69 5 лет назад +9

    ALL of this is WWAAAYY over my head , but , please continue . I will smile and look contemplative .

  • @fgchotline3964
    @fgchotline3964 5 лет назад +70

    Oh geez 😱 the quickest way to cross thread a bolt especially in alloy is starting them with power tools oh god

    • @austin3171
      @austin3171 5 лет назад +19

      Only a problem if you expect to remove them later. /s

    • @timschutte8310
      @timschutte8310 5 лет назад +3

      david eliassen , I saw that and NO LUBE on the cam swap either 🚽

    • @jtnoodle
      @jtnoodle 5 лет назад +1

      It pained me seeing that. Using power tools to drive anything but large diameter, coarse threads is a no-no, IMO.
      And the way they slam and stuff things around, geez.

    • @1BigDaDo
      @1BigDaDo 5 лет назад +1

      If you know what your doing its no big deal...

    • @KSA-uu8js
      @KSA-uu8js 5 лет назад +1

      it made me feel a little sick

  • @RyanTheMalamute
    @RyanTheMalamute 5 лет назад +16

    How you guys manage to not say a single "uhh" when explaining stuff is absolute magic.

  • @jameswilliamson6289
    @jameswilliamson6289 4 года назад +3

    Really enjoyed the Ford 460 build series.

  • @jamesspencer2543
    @jamesspencer2543 2 года назад +1

    Yes 429-460 is a great motor ran many of them will run right with a BBC with equal parts thanks for doing a great motor show about them will watch for more

  • @jasonmyers3847
    @jasonmyers3847 4 года назад

    So after about ten minutes in, you're done watching. Very nice 460 Ford.

  • @dickysgarage7120
    @dickysgarage7120 5 лет назад +43

    Finally a BBF gets some attention. Why did they have to ruin the video with yet another LS build.

    • @n1uk214
      @n1uk214 5 лет назад +7

      So sick of LS builds. Yep you can BOLT anything to them. And drop them in anything. V8 rice rocket if you ask me

    • @dickysgarage7120
      @dickysgarage7120 5 лет назад +6

      @@n1uk214I would agree that they make kits to install them in just about anything and for the average beginner a LS would be the easy choice. But for the experienced guys it's just plain boring. They don't make adapters for where we're going!

    • @n1uk214
      @n1uk214 5 лет назад +1

      @Richard Skipper i use a 429 with RV cam and iginition. For my pull truck. I like the extra weight

    • @dickysgarage7120
      @dickysgarage7120 5 лет назад

      @Richard Skipper Brother you aren't kidding. I put one in my Miata and it didn't like it one bit. They make an AM aluminum block for those who can afford it.

    • @n1uk214
      @n1uk214 5 лет назад +2

      @Richard Skipper hey im Working class too buddy. Thats the best part of these old big blocks. Heads like the D0Ve and D1Ve are high proformance. A2A heads were interceptor heads . Decking the block and a cam goes a long way with big blocks. Even a stroker kit only runs around 2000 dollars

  • @hdvictoryford5329
    @hdvictoryford5329 6 месяцев назад

    My Bud was a BBF man. Built many 429-460's. As HRM mag said, the 460 was the quickest and cheapest way to 600 hp. You guys proved it. By the way my Bud ran his 460's at the Grove. He usually ran them several seasons before a tear down. In his words they were durable, dependable, and amazingly consistent. By the way the show was great, except for the Chevy part,lol.

  • @deborahchesser7375
    @deborahchesser7375 4 года назад +1

    Those old truck motors always had a lot more potential.

  • @paradisemace1
    @paradisemace1 4 года назад +1

    I owned a 1969 Lincoln Mark III . It had a chromed badge plate under the hood that rated the 10.5 to 1 , 460 c.i. at 365 b.h.p. @ 4600 r.p.m. A great car with the engine to prove it.

  • @Titantramp4u
    @Titantramp4u 5 лет назад +1

    Fun to watch the ole' iron 460 make some numbers...on your valve checking, fixed a fair amount of Chevy/Ford BB "porcupine" heads after checking valve wipe left & right by having to cut the pushrod guide plates apart then rotate and tighten back where the belong, followed by me TIG welding them back together....Enjoy the videos, keep them coming and I'll keep watching!

  • @davescbradiorepair8195
    @davescbradiorepair8195 2 года назад +1

    Love the big block Ford it's the engine that the first Bigfoot trucks dominated with as well as Bob Glidden in pro stock

  • @CJColvin
    @CJColvin 5 лет назад +6

    Do some porting and polishing to the Trick flow heads and Trick flow intake manifold and man that 460 Big Block Ford will definitely make over 625 HP.

    • @CJColvin
      @CJColvin 4 года назад

      @@rickjames6948 Oh Yeah you betcha mate or it can even make 630 HP or more.

  • @Shawbaz
    @Shawbaz 2 года назад +2

    Makes me wanna clean my 460 lol, I’m changing my carb guts tomorrow.

  • @luckyjuly67
    @luckyjuly67 5 лет назад +3

    I'd love that 460 in my 82 bronco. Awesome content guys, as always.

  • @alexsmith3166
    @alexsmith3166 3 года назад

    Wish they still show this on TV!,used to watch every weekend!

  • @rogerwhite3644
    @rogerwhite3644 2 года назад +1

    I've built a few 460's Really loved them

  • @fredbach6039
    @fredbach6039 4 года назад

    You left out so many useful procedures. I wouldn't mind more on the drilling the hole in the crank, and how you set up those rockers. Thx for all the great stuff on your show!

  • @tomnekuda3818
    @tomnekuda3818 5 лет назад +1

    Great video series on the 460's.....have built several and love them......once you get rid of Ford heads. I'm learning a lot from you guys even at 72 years of age. I can tell the info is good......your hands look like mine! Believe it. Wish I had your equipment. Keep the faith. PS.....Great work on the LS motor.....I've been resisting them as an old timer.....but, in my heart, I know that's where it's at now.

    • @JamesSmith-lt5zz
      @JamesSmith-lt5zz 5 лет назад +1

      460s are solid motors the bottom ends are hard to kill. Head and intake swap and depending on budget if you can do the intervals low psi turbo charger, or both Torque wins everytime. And considering if more NA power was needed the 460 turns into a 550 in a overhaul for about the same cost. If I had to go for a newer age motor. Instead of the ls1 I think I'd go for fords 5.7l DOHC fully built these motors can make some serious power NA.

  • @MrRlltide
    @MrRlltide Месяц назад

    This is my favorite build of this show. I’d love to have this engine in a prepped 62-63 galaxie for open course driving, Holman Moody style! Would be a lot cheaper than a FE I imagine.

  • @blackericdenice
    @blackericdenice 5 лет назад +20

    4:40 the upgrade they did on the distributor would have worked just fine.

  • @briansteeves4411
    @briansteeves4411 Год назад

    I think horsepower is amazing and we all need it in their engines

  • @ThePaulv12
    @ThePaulv12 5 лет назад +7

    I'd really like to see an old school solid lifter flat tappet camshaft in the big block. I feel the 607hp at 6000rpm is being limited by the hydraulic roller since hydraulic camshafts are done by about 6000rpm.
    This thing sounds so smooth I really think another 5-700 rpm might yield another 40hp making it ~ 650hp. Very nice!

    • @roninkraut6873
      @roninkraut6873 5 лет назад +8

      ThePaulv12
      They couldn’t do that because it would have beaten the 454.

    • @ThePaulv12
      @ThePaulv12 5 лет назад +1

      @@roninkraut6873 lol

    • @markmccarty9793
      @markmccarty9793 2 года назад

      Na, it'll run forever like it is, and hooking all that torque up on street tires is gonna be really hard anyway. A big solid flat tappet can would soften it below 3000 rpm or so, but breaking the cam in, having to put zink additives in every oil change would get old!! Love to have that motor in my 94 f150 flareside! Ladder bars and track locator a must tho.

  • @Backwoods_870
    @Backwoods_870 Год назад

    That 385 series Ford is a beast waiting to be unleashed.

  • @sammyvices2547
    @sammyvices2547 5 лет назад +23

    Throw that 460 in a Foxbody or a Maverick🏁🙌🏽

    • @jonathancisneros7150
      @jonathancisneros7150 5 лет назад +2

      Samuel Monsivais or on a late 80s f150 hahahah

    • @timschutte8310
      @timschutte8310 5 лет назад +2

      Samuel Monsivais , yeeha, I had a 1970 Ford mavrick
      very lightweight.

    • @sammyvices2547
      @sammyvices2547 5 лет назад +2

      Tim Schutte I love the old Mavericks there an underrated car that a lot of people look over

    • @timschutte8310
      @timschutte8310 5 лет назад +2

      Samuel Monsivais , mine only had the 250 six single barrel carburator but it was my very first car I ever owned. friend of mine had the Grabber 302 V/8.
      pretty fast car. did good burnouts, lol.

    • @loveablegurl100
      @loveablegurl100 5 лет назад +1

      No that’s what the LS is for🤣🤣🤣

  • @Samsgarden
    @Samsgarden 5 лет назад +5

    Next, we're placing leaf springs on a C7 Corvette

    • @TheBigred1781
      @TheBigred1781 5 лет назад +1

      Corvettes come from the factory with leaf springs🤔🤔

    • @jacobmullins3644
      @jacobmullins3644 5 лет назад +1

      @@TheBigred1781 from the 50s to the 80s they did

    • @TheBigred1781
      @TheBigred1781 5 лет назад

      C7 still have a mono leaf spring

    • @yeetusdeletus9
      @yeetusdeletus9 4 года назад

      @@jacobmullins3644 yeah, corvettes still come with leaf springs lol, hopefully the c8 will be different

  • @Blurgamer17
    @Blurgamer17 5 лет назад

    Two engines that are Well over 50 years old, or soon to be 50, making reliable figures of power within the 500-600hp range. All of this, Naturally aspirated.

  • @jeremywilliams9750
    @jeremywilliams9750 5 лет назад +17

    I'm all for the big blue oval was a chevy fan but got me an 89 mustang lx 5.0 it was enough to change me for good

    • @UFOGHOSTHUNTER
      @UFOGHOSTHUNTER 5 лет назад

      love the FOX! 🦊

    • @BarnStangz
      @BarnStangz 5 лет назад +1

      I've got 3 Fox Mustangs, they are cheap and FAST! I'm still building a 408 stroker. Hope to have it done this year, the engine at least. I've got some vids on my channel if your bored! LOL!

    • @phantomwalker8251
      @phantomwalker8251 4 года назад

      chevs allways cheap out.the 35-0 is a dog of an engine.good std,just dont touch it.ive allways had fords.here in aus.,my dad had holdens,gm,derivitive,never liked the design or mechanicals.small,cheap.cant beat a good clevo,top loader,9"..there a truck engine,tough.windsors are for race day..biggest rubbish chev sold was the 6.2 diesel,inc the 6.5 tdi.old buik petrol motor.good power but handgrenade..look up ford f1000,brazil.mwm 4.2tdi...you,never got them..

  • @dstrong11
    @dstrong11 5 лет назад

    490+hp on an LS1 with a Cam, 750 Double Pumper, and Single plane Intake?!!! Thats Awesomeness 💯.

    • @rdsimmonds
      @rdsimmonds 5 лет назад

      I'm actually confused, as they limited it to the factory redline of 6k. I'm willing to bet there was more left in it by revving it higher.

  • @Silkmaster4200
    @Silkmaster4200 5 лет назад +29

    I'm a big block fan. I seen EFI 460 Modded. U can get way more torque than a LS9 modded. Big old engine hard to beat lol.

    • @dickysgarage7120
      @dickysgarage7120 5 лет назад +2

      True story!

    • @codyparker679
      @codyparker679 5 лет назад +2

      Cubes are such a great thing when you need real power

    • @PropsandWings
      @PropsandWings 5 лет назад +2

      And a hell of a lot cheaper too. LS9 is expensive where the 460 has been around for a long time. Ford made a lot of them.

    • @dickysgarage7120
      @dickysgarage7120 5 лет назад +2

      @@PropsandWings Yup. I won a $3000 burnout contest with a $200 BBF. By far the best bang for your buck.

    • @motecalevol
      @motecalevol 5 лет назад +3

      There’s no replacement for displacement.

  • @bravofoxable
    @bravofoxable 4 года назад +1

    Must have a stud girdle. This motor will last a very long time. Good job 👍🏻

  • @chrisscharfenberger6007
    @chrisscharfenberger6007 Год назад +1

    Watching him trying to put the distributor in was PAINFUL!!

  • @davidmack834
    @davidmack834 5 лет назад +3

    Hey Joe E., I still have your old 65 Mustang fastback, "Pro Touring Pony", sitting in the garage! Waaaay back from the old TNN TV show HP TV.

  • @troymi1648
    @troymi1648 5 лет назад +4

    More more more budget builds!!!

  • @markmark5269
    @markmark5269 4 года назад +3

    Thanks for the carby LS1 segment, there's plenty of swaps into older cars going on that can use that setup on a budget.

  • @johnparrish9215
    @johnparrish9215 5 лет назад +3

    I've seen one of these LS conversions at a Car Show. It was in an old Caddy and had custom valve covers on it that said Caddilac on it. Only about 10% of people noticed it was an LS engine.
    It looked great in that 56 Coupe de Ville.

  • @oldsmobileaurora7418
    @oldsmobileaurora7418 5 лет назад

    Ford is so ahead of the game.

  • @bronzjohnson2362
    @bronzjohnson2362 5 лет назад +2

    I’ll take the old school any day!!

  • @conservativeminuteman9202
    @conservativeminuteman9202 5 лет назад +8

    Torque? Couldn't take two seconds to say "...and the torque is ___." Torque is more important than horsepower.

  • @ryanbarbolt3691
    @ryanbarbolt3691 4 года назад

    Love that style dampener... keeps everything nice and wet.

  • @Acroposthion
    @Acroposthion 5 лет назад

    Love the back catalog from RTM! Would love to see episodes of old Car & Driver TV (& Motor Trend)

  • @jnicksnewstart
    @jnicksnewstart 4 года назад

    Came for the 460 and stayed for the LS. Wish we could have heard the 460 idling. Nothing quite like a big block Lope . LS had a great idle sound. I know many of the new engines make fantastic horsepower and torque with an imperceptible smooth idle. But, I'm old, and Lopey rough idles bring back fond memories of my youth.

  • @jayson95gt
    @jayson95gt 5 лет назад +7

    Why put a dizzy in the LS when you can just put in an MSD box. That allows you to use the factory sensors, coils, and plug wires with the carb!

  • @lawrencefoster2120
    @lawrencefoster2120 3 года назад

    My friends 78-ish ford truck that got ten miles to the gallon to get to the beach had a 460.

  • @warrenheslip692
    @warrenheslip692 5 лет назад +11

    I thought this was about a big block Ford!. Not another boring LS Chevy.

  • @markmccarty9793
    @markmccarty9793 Год назад

    Really considered a 460 for my 94F150 flareside. I got heads, roller block, pistons already on the rods, intake for a hydraulic roller 357ci Windsor! Even got a tci tyranny! The difference in the weight and the powershot will almost make up the difference! But, we have a 460/c6. Decisions, but the economic impact with today's crumbling economy, go with what u got!!

    • @eskieman3948
      @eskieman3948 Год назад

      A 460 would move that PU down the road very well. If you're good with the gas bill, go for it!

    • @markmccarty9793
      @markmccarty9793 Год назад

      @@eskieman3948 yea, I thought about it. Knew some guys back when I raced that put them in 150s. They probably bought every 69 to 71 Lincoln in 3 counties. They had a 68 Falcon (it would fit in that body, just used mustang mounts). But, I'd have to start all over! I got 3 sets of heads for the Windsor, 2 short blocks (ones a 95 roller), pistons already on the rods! Think I'm gonna sell those aluminum heads, the ported 289 heads will make more compression with the pistons I have on rods now! It's gonna be a rat rod, not ever gonna paint it!

  • @MikoMuru
    @MikoMuru 5 лет назад +3

    My dads old mechanic said you didnt need a supercharger/turbo to make high hp. I thought he was crazy. Guess he was right all along.

    • @JamesSmith-lt5zz
      @JamesSmith-lt5zz 5 лет назад

      Nope just cubic inches and let it breathe. All this smog bs hurts engines and fuel economy. And makes more pollution burning more gas. Seriously who thought feeding a engine it's own shit was a good idea.

    • @frigglebiscuit7484
      @frigglebiscuit7484 5 лет назад +1

      well, the turbo route is now cheaper, tbh. not everyone wants 11:1 compression, a mooshy bottom end, and 8 mpg.

    • @frigglebiscuit7484
      @frigglebiscuit7484 5 лет назад

      @@JamesSmith-lt5zz turbos dont feed and engine its own shit.

    • @daffyduckling6958
      @daffyduckling6958 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@frigglebiscuit7484You don't know anything about making horsepower do you?

  • @2000cobraguy
    @2000cobraguy 5 лет назад +1

    A steel distributor gear is more durable than a bronze gear.
    Also, instead of using the drill method for pre-oiling,
    I use a garden sprayer, refitted with a brass fitting and send the oil
    into the oil sending unit port.
    Be sure to use a garden sprayer for bleach,
    as it has O rings that can take the oil.
    Put oil in the sprayer tank, pump it up,
    pull the trigger and pressurize the oiling system.
    Works good for 20 bucks.

  • @kurtpoblenz2741
    @kurtpoblenz2741 5 лет назад +58

    I can't stand it when they put an LS motor in everything. So boring. A lot of other engines make great power, so tired of LS builds. It reminds of evyone building a 32 fiberglass body kit car hotrod with a 350, turbo 400 tranny , 9 inch Ford rear.... boring, boring , boring!!!

    • @460FORDMAV
      @460FORDMAV 5 лет назад +3

      Kurt Poblenz You just told everything!!!!

    • @adamgardner28
      @adamgardner28 5 лет назад +3

      Because it works. But hell if I'm putting a 350 chevy motor in a 32 Highboy...

    • @kurtpoblenz2741
      @kurtpoblenz2741 5 лет назад +8

      Adam Gardner ...how about an olds or nailhead.... or go all out & put a Chrysler hemi in it. With a small block 350 , it will look like everything else.... the Toyota Camry of hot rods ☹️

    • @JimBronson
      @JimBronson 5 лет назад +1

      Why don't you post some links of some of the other, "more interesting" engines that you've built?

    • @kurtpoblenz2741
      @kurtpoblenz2741 5 лет назад +12

      Jim Bronson .... I drive a 1933 dodge 5 window coupe with an early 392 Chrysler hemi. 10.5 compression isky hydraulic cam 290 duration 520 lift , with a tunnel ram , 727 with an 8 3/4 rear. Currently I'm building a 505 stroker 440 with a trickflow topend thats going in a 65 coronet hardtop with fiberglass fenders, hood, decklid & bumpers

  • @jamescole6846
    @jamescole6846 5 лет назад +9

    you mention how much the budget build was but it would have been nice to include the general cost of the parts for the high performance upgrades to get it to 607hp

    • @greggglasser6112
      @greggglasser6112 3 года назад

      I agree. I watched the video a few times to find out, but you never said the cost of the high performance build.

  • @GWAR1982
    @GWAR1982 3 года назад

    Always selling that Chevy !

  • @HP.Customs
    @HP.Customs 5 лет назад +9

    Brought to you by Trickflow,lol.

  • @valuedhumanoid6574
    @valuedhumanoid6574 5 лет назад

    These guys are the best.

  • @Darkhorse393
    @Darkhorse393 5 лет назад +117

    How to make an LS look like the 351W it was copied from lol

    • @mikehaslett3738
      @mikehaslett3738 5 лет назад +6

      @@mikec9112 100% agree

    • @bilbobaggins4710
      @bilbobaggins4710 5 лет назад +7

      @@mikec9112 how did chevy copy ford???? LS has nothing to do with this shit engine

    • @e-feezy2507
      @e-feezy2507 5 лет назад +4

      Ford really screwed themselves giving the ls design to gm and deciding to go with the power monster 4.6 instead huh?

    • @falconater68
      @falconater68 5 лет назад +18

      @Trigger some Liberals Hes a internet car guy. Knows it all, as you can tell.

    • @donalderdbrink647
      @donalderdbrink647 5 лет назад

      Darkhorse393 modern-day Marvel LOL thanks Ford

  • @lonnieopp8198
    @lonnieopp8198 5 лет назад +50

    how about you start showing whole dyno graphs to get a clearer picture of power production

    • @stanleykendziorski7964
      @stanleykendziorski7964 5 лет назад +11

      That's why engine masters is way better

    • @slowstang88
      @slowstang88 3 года назад +2

      Because it's not a Chevy. If that was a 454 they'd have forged high compression pistons, tried 3 different intakes and carbs with jet changes, multiple timing changes, then nitrous

  • @Swervin309
    @Swervin309 4 года назад +1

    Installing oil pan bolts with an impact? Y'all are much braver than I.

  • @AT_motors
    @AT_motors 5 лет назад +11

    Just what everyone wants.. A big mechanical fuel pump front and center in the engine bay

    • @lop8828
      @lop8828 5 лет назад

      Or spend 1k in fuel delivery.

    • @matthewkowalchuk
      @matthewkowalchuk 5 лет назад +2

      Or $150 for a Holley blue with a regulator

    • @A_Man_In_His_Van
      @A_Man_In_His_Van 5 лет назад

      or don't be a pussy and regards in the thing properly with fuel injection. nobody is computer illiterate anymore, and if you can update Windows, you can flash a pcm ROM. learn some theory, get a cheap MDS and a subscription to global connect, and there is a whole world of GM calibrations and aftermarket support. for the money you spend to make it run worse, you can get a better cam and tune. and make way more power.

    • @frigglebiscuit7484
      @frigglebiscuit7484 5 лет назад +1

      some of us dont have the 1200 plus dollars it takes. its not worth it for n/a.

  • @pw383426
    @pw383426 5 лет назад +3

    Cleetus needs to watch this video about pushrod length

  • @CJColvin
    @CJColvin 4 года назад +2

    Engine power took a 460 Block and punched it out to 557 Cubic inches and made 850 HP with a Soild roller cam along with the Trick flow top end kit and made 1100 HP with some added nitrous.

  • @elcano9
    @elcano9 4 года назад

    I remember loving this stuff in the late 2000's. Some stuff announced on this video don't even exist anymore. Like that PowerToolBox stuff, the web page doesn't even work anymore. Makes u feel old doesn't it?

  • @ericouellette5293
    @ericouellette5293 4 года назад +5

    Nice love the 460. Badass engine I would take it any day. Not even getting into the ls but I will say what a crappy engine.

  • @stevesalkas9128
    @stevesalkas9128 Год назад

    Good to see ls1 5.7 engine good in australia

  • @DonESmith-lc1vf
    @DonESmith-lc1vf 4 года назад +13

    How did this go from a 460 build to a GM mod??

    • @dadyo63
      @dadyo63 2 года назад

      And had to use a ford dizzy,looks to bulky with all that crap on th front of that Ls

    • @lawrencemick1665
      @lawrencemick1665 Год назад

      Because the bias on these shows are evident. The 460 just stomps the ls bla bla bla.

  • @Brock_Landers
    @Brock_Landers 5 лет назад +3

    I would love to see this engine in something like that old LTD they were talking about, or something that I've always wanted to do, swap it into a newer Ranger with some careful massaging.

    • @socalltd
      @socalltd 5 лет назад

      have a 74 LTD 2 door with a 400c in it. can always use a new bigger motor. . already have a C6 in it ready to go

  • @killintimeracing1368
    @killintimeracing1368 5 лет назад

    Becoming one of the best channels

    • @ryebread6167
      @ryebread6167 5 лет назад +1

      Been watching them sense i was a kid on the speed channel i believe.

  • @Natedoc808
    @Natedoc808 5 лет назад +1

    Put that in a 64 falcon 2dr HT!!! But make sure you upgrade the brakes, suspension and roll cage!

  • @allenroth351
    @allenroth351 3 года назад +3

    You had me till the LS came in.. again... I want to know more about the 460..

    • @timclaus8313
      @timclaus8313 3 года назад

      Yeah, this channel seems to default to a Chevy at some point in any Ford or Mopar build....

  • @TheManLab7
    @TheManLab7 5 лет назад +1

    It's nice you use euro measurements for the engine and use 12 point bolts

  • @jeffsmith6371
    @jeffsmith6371 5 лет назад

    OH crap a way to make an LS have the distributor in the front! WOW the mustang game is about to BLOW UP!

  • @colbysutton2591
    @colbysutton2591 5 лет назад +2

    Y’all should be running a Innovators West dampener instead of an ATI, ask Kasse he will tell you what to choose 😁

    • @thedraftdoctor1
      @thedraftdoctor1 5 лет назад +1

      Colby Sutton and they look so damn good

    • @colbysutton2591
      @colbysutton2591 5 лет назад

      thedraftdoctor1 my dad is the lead builder at Innovators

    • @taylorgtrotter
      @taylorgtrotter 5 лет назад

      Colby Sutton they should’ve used his P-51 heads too. That would’ve been 650hp easy!

  • @n5ifi
    @n5ifi 5 лет назад +1

    Pistons (Compression) Killed the power big time. Put those dome pistons on it like you did in the bbc and it would have gained big power. Still good power for that motor.

    • @rondyechannel1399
      @rondyechannel1399 5 лет назад

      Even the flat top TRW will get to about 10.5 with the stock head instead of those grand canyon slugs! Then close the intake valve a little later and still pump gas compatible with iron heads. 1 point higher for those aluminums.

  • @noonecareswhenalltheydo
    @noonecareswhenalltheydo 5 лет назад

    No assembly lube on cam or lifters, no setting the distributor to #1. Did the same thing on the BBF and the LS. Just flopped it in.

  • @mr.suplex927
    @mr.suplex927 5 лет назад

    I would like to see these guys put this in a "granny" '80's LTD. The panther platform though. 😂😂😂

    • @iamOAKland
      @iamOAKland 4 года назад

      Like that old Burt Reynolds movie where he had LTD with a 460 moving moonshine

  • @technicalitems731
    @technicalitems731 5 лет назад +26

    What was the ford horsepower details and at what rpm? Most importantly, what was the torque? Wtf? Off into LS land.....

    • @donalderdbrink647
      @donalderdbrink647 5 лет назад +5

      Technical Items they always throw LS sht in Ford episodes! 😒

    • @dj4monie
      @dj4monie 5 лет назад +5

      607hp @ 7000 rpm

    • @bryanroupe8646
      @bryanroupe8646 5 лет назад +3

      He only pulled it to 6k. But yeah I quick watching more than half the video turned into a chebby episode. Thumbs down from me.

    • @timschutte8310
      @timschutte8310 5 лет назад

      Technical Items , Ford was about 600 HP

    • @tuckerc3802
      @tuckerc3802 5 лет назад +1

      You guys are haters on chevy i mean chebby just jealous that chevy makes such a good motor reasonably priced and a million parts that the working man can actually afford and depend on i love the ford small block and the sound it makes dam good but it doesnt compete with any ls as in sales and parts ford didnt put any effort in trying to compete with the ls thats when i lost all respect for ford now if you want a coyote motor but who has that kind of money to work on it when you're just some schmuck welder working your ass off to make it with a family chevy does and im proud

  • @limabravo6065
    @limabravo6065 5 лет назад +1

    For the LS build, was this episode from back before the msd LS coil controller existed? Because this seems like way more work and money than just getting an ls dual plane intake and an msd 6ls

  • @jamesguidry3995
    @jamesguidry3995 4 года назад

    Reminds me of all the SWEETHEART ROAD TEST the mags did back in the day ! PAID FOR BY THE MANUFACTURES ! Ever notice in NASCAR how shhivy will sponsor 25 cars to race against 4 o5 Fords . Amazing , and still can't win a race !! LOL !

  • @akassasin5768
    @akassasin5768 5 лет назад

    I dont care what anyone says that crab ls is bad ass.

  • @kennybrown403
    @kennybrown403 4 года назад +2

    I want to give my 460 600 horsepower out of an F-250 Ford. Thats nice. be nice to trade you and buy yours

  • @IRONHEAD12701
    @IRONHEAD12701 3 года назад

    Don’t get me wrong, I love seeing (and hearing) an American V8 on a dyno. It’s the power at the rear wheels that matters. Crank hp vs. Rear wheel hp. How much is lost?

  • @Sir.JohnHawkins
    @Sir.JohnHawkins 5 лет назад +14

    Build an FE like this!

    • @codyparker679
      @codyparker679 5 лет назад +1

      Yeah a 428 stroker

    • @dj4monie
      @dj4monie 5 лет назад

      They did a simple 390 years ago. Google it

    • @olderthanyoucali8512
      @olderthanyoucali8512 5 лет назад

      Yes, with the aluminum aftermarket block and heads, 526 inches

  • @jtnoodle
    @jtnoodle 5 лет назад +3

    Nice way to finish up a killer 460 build and then shit on it with an LS build.

  • @AppalachianMountainManAudits
    @AppalachianMountainManAudits 4 года назад

    I've got an '83 Ltd base model (the smaller one). It's got a running 3.8 v6 if you want to use that!!

  • @samueljackson2478
    @samueljackson2478 5 лет назад +4

    I love this video but the slap in the face was the chevy engine covers 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

  • @1skorpius
    @1skorpius 5 лет назад +2

    Ok so let me get this straight you have this so claimed LS1 motor that is and I quote:
    1. Ford 5.0 H.O, 4.6Mod, 351W/C firing order
    2. Ford cooling system
    3. Ford Oiling system
    4. Ford cross bolt mains
    5. Ford angled Plugs
    6. Ford ten bolt head pattern
    7. Mind you the LS block architecture is a copy of the 4.6 Mod motor with thicker webbing. The 4.6 cast iron block handles 900hp which with the right tune can easily go 1000+ what they essentially did was adapt a cam into a modular block.
    8. Ford symmetrical Windsor style head layout with fords 427 high riser ports.
    9. Ford centered thrust bearing.
    10. Ford kidney shaped combustion chamber which dates back to 1961 first used in the 390 HI performance Ford big block as well as the 427.
    11. And Ford distributor placement in the front of the block instead of the back so again how is this a Chevrolet motor? This is down right Ford LS1 motor.

    • @rdsimmonds
      @rdsimmonds 5 лет назад

      The LS block is based on Buick designs dating back to the early 60's with their aluminum 215 small block, including the deep skirted block. So, not copied from Ford there. The 4 bolt per cylinder layout was also not exclusive to Ford. All Buick did was simply knock 2 bolt holes off of the design to use 4 instead of 6 in later engines. The oiling system was also not copied from Ford. Yes, the oil pump may be in the front, but completely different types of oil pumps. The replicated port layout was also not exclusive to Ford. The wedge style combustion chambers, not really sure how those are a Ford design. Angled plugs, again, other companies used angled plugs, not just Ford. And on an engine that has no provision for a distributor, about the only way you're going to add one is to run it off of the front of the cam. So yeah, a retrofit kit for an engine never designed to use a distributor is probably going to have it in the timing cover. As for the firing order, GM used the same firing pattern in years past. There are only so many ways to fire a 90 degree V8 that uses a cross plane crankshaft. Absolutely none of that makes it a design that was copied from Ford. In fact, it shares more in common with a Buick 3800 Series 2 V6.

  • @justlost2010
    @justlost2010 5 лет назад +6

    Will you try fuel injection combustion on the 460 now that you have a baseline with the carburetor. To see if you get more or less out of it or change power curves ?

    • @robertthorpe2179
      @robertthorpe2179 5 лет назад +1

      Fuel injection is king.

    • @timschutte8310
      @timschutte8310 5 лет назад +1

      Thomas Manges , just put a pro charger on it, a big Fucker like Daddy Dave

    • @sow9880
      @sow9880 5 лет назад +1

      This was filmed years and years ago. No telling where that engine is now .

  • @Parents_of_Twins
    @Parents_of_Twins 4 года назад

    Richard Holdener took a late 60's 460 from a junkyard put in a better cam and a set of port and polished Iron heads and made over 600hp. Kind of makes me wonder hell you guys were doing "throwing out the rules" but apparently keeping some restrictions because you can't tell me a set of 50 year old ported iron heads are better than what's available today.

  • @saintblamo
    @saintblamo 5 лет назад +2

    7:27 that breather is dripping oil, i wonder if the valve covers have baffles? cool engine though.

  • @mattack6779
    @mattack6779 4 месяца назад

    I missed what the benefit of the distributor part of the LS carb. conversion was. Would not the MSD LS box that handles ignition on LSX carb. swaps be a lot cheaper and far easier to do?

  • @jameshatfield6814
    @jameshatfield6814 5 лет назад

    This channel is amazing

  • @utahcountypicazospage5412
    @utahcountypicazospage5412 5 лет назад

    I think most that power was cam. Fast intake manifold magic stick from Texas speed and 500 hp is possible on engine dyno so this seems like a lot of work but ls1 is always gonna perform no matter what

  • @josephryan1576
    @josephryan1576 5 лет назад +3

    Did they ever say what the all in price of this build was?
    And this was 607hp on an essentially stock bottom end with a stud girdle correct?

    • @marshallmcdowell3369
      @marshallmcdowell3369 5 лет назад

      A basically stock bottom end with a head, cam and intake swap vs a fully built 454 and it still was within 30 hp of the 454