454 Chevy Big Block Bow Tie Build - Horsepower S13, E12
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- On this Horsepower episode, the team is building a big block bow tie classic on a shoestring budget.
PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
Accel: Spark Plug Index Washers, 14mm Tapered Seat, 5/8 in. Hex, Set of 30.
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ARP: Cylinder Head Bolts, High Performance, Hex Head, Chevy, Big Block, Kit., moly assembly lube.
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Hays: Performance Clutch Kit-LS1
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Loctite: PST Thread Sealant.
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Mallory Performance: Distributor, Magnetic Pickup, Vacuum Advance, HEI, Chevy, Big/Small Block.
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Mr. Gasket: Bolt-On, Aluminum Oil Filter Bypass Adapter.
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Summit Racing: Cam and Lifters, Hydraulic Flat Tappet, Advertised Duration 286/296, Lift .540/.540, Chevy, Big Block, Kit.
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Summit Racing: Carburetor, Summit, 750 cfm, Square Bore, 4-Barrel, Manual Choke, Mechanical Secondary.
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Summit Racing: Engine Dress-Up Kit, Steel, Chrome, Chevy, Big Block., Timing Cover Bolts, Billet Distributor Hold-down
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Summit Racing: Summit Racing Street & Strip Stage 1 Intake Manifold, Chevy, Big Block, Oval Ports.
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Summit Racing: Water Pump Pulley, V-Belt, 2-Groove, Steel, Chrome, Chevy, Big Block, Long Pump., Crankshaft Pulley, V-Belt, 3-Groove, 7.8 in., Steel, Chrome, Chevy, Big Block, Long Pump.
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O'Reilly Auto Parts: Mechanical water pump cast iron
Pioneer Inc: Stock harmonic balancer
Summit Racing: Spectre hpR high-performance air filters
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Cómo puedo enviar les un motor para que lo armen? Soy de México.
PowerNation where can I get a 454 short block for that price? I want to put this build in my 70 Nova.
@@tuxedoautotransport you can get a shortblock 454 with stock parts for $1500 $1750 but you would probably be better off getting a 383 stroker because for the same price you will get forged everything and then the top end is cheaper and it weighs 100 pounds less.. but for cubic inches yeah you're looking at $2500 minimum for a 454 short block with forged everything and not build for a Van.
Nelson caballero sa wey puedes mandarlo a cualquier otro taller que te lo armen en Houston Texas hay muchos talleres buenos
What about mopar 440 ????
Every PN episode: “Hi welcome back. We took a truckload of cash and bought all new parts. Then we used a shop the size of your house combined with a team of mechanics to create a horsepower monster. We love doing these budget builds that anyone can do.”
At 8:50 Joe explained to go all out and budget is not now in consideration
Performance and budget should not be said in the same sentence.
I haven't laughed out loud in years. I actually teared, thanks bro.
Speed cost money, how fast can you afford to go?
😂😂😂😂
Cost for cost the chevy will usually out perform
Cost for cost BUT not part for part. Give the Ford the same compression,cylinder head flow and cam to match just like they did the Chevy then Ford wins all day. They handicapped the Ford on purpose to make the Chevy win. They always do that on these shows.
@Jack Russelle Lewis ok
@Jack Russelle Lewis with a strict budget with a conventional V 8 I would take my 73 SBC 400 90 over and for the cost, I wdtjd put it up against any other conventional V 8 for the same expense! Chevy is the cheapest power made that's just plain facts!
@@VegasRT500 all lies that chevy had low compression and truck heads the infamous peanut ports it dont get no worse than that...
Bazooka Joe Preach! 427 ford was banned by Nascar before it even landed on the track. They are just freaking expensive and that’s if you can even find one for sale. GM power is cheap and plentiful. Thats why Im a chevy guy and so many others...
“Break in oil and run time are mandatory to prevent scaring of the cam” beats the piss out of it when he puts it in
I hate seeing that guy do cams
Dam bro. I laughed my ass off when i read this. Beat the piss out of it. Dam
I legit just watched that and ran to the comments hoping someone mentioned it! Thank you for being that someoen
I was wondering "I thought you had to be more gentle"
He installs a camshaft as aggressively as a samurai that thrusts his sword into the abdomen of the guy that murdered the samurai's whole family.
That cam install was cringeworthy. Lol
lmao, right? I think I would have to TRY to be that sloppy
For sure. Looked like amateur hour to me.
I think they were trying to force a Ford cam to fit in the Chevy
shooting for the lumpety lump lump you get when you loose a few lobes
@Steve Hicks Well,what do you expect???They are all hosted by guys who's dads friends cousins brother-in-laws mailman once KNEW a guy who knew a guy that knew a LITTLE about cars......They can't always get the facts right,or read a script but Boy,ain't they Purdy?!?
I never understood just being a ford or chevy guy. I think all cars cool.
Cultureless americans need to represent something! In Japan that is even stronger with the corporate peon loyalty!
Right and even if you were car bias 31 hp isn't much of a gap that's really a driver's race plus ford is generally lighter than chevy
It's all about the spirit of rivalry.
@@thefngoat2888 It's a ten or two in a quarter mile at this level, so, yeah, nothing to get exited about.
Rich Gwolla I'm a Ford guy but I think your wrong, I think the Chevy is lighter.
I miss watching these shows on Sunday mornings 😩
While nursing a hangover
I'm definitely a Ford guy. That being said I have huge respect for the Chevy engines. I kinda think Ford missed the boat and didn't keep the small and big block compatibility like Chevy did. It's cheaper to hot rod a Chevy. They did good on the engine engineering and some other stuff as well.
why don't you just drive the cam in with a BFH
Buck for buck, it's hard to beat a big block chevy. You could pull a 454 out an old motorhome you get off craigslist, drop it in some 60/70/80s beater, add a few bolt ons, and, *voila* you've got yourself a badass build on a budget.
Love the 454 motor. What a Chevy icon!
“Break in oil and runtime to keep from scaring the camshaft” never mind that Hellen Keller install...
😂😂☠️
Today on Powernation we take 2 big blocks, build them, and dyno them. Next week, we're taking them apart and putting better parts on for more power on the dyno. The week after that. I mean, its what you hoped college auto class was. Just engines and dyno runs.
Those power numbers are achieved with those stupid peanut port heads as well, which is even more impressive.
Yes
Agreed. Would have been nice to see them use the good stock oval port heads.
When I saw those heads I got sad
They used even worse cylinder heads on the Ford.
Good comment. They can keep a decent velocity at low volume but definitely Chevrolet's lowest power offering.
What would have been nice is to run the same cam in both. 10 more degrees is a big diff. Comp makes the 268 high energy for both.
Nothing like tearing up the cam bearings, why don't you just stand back and throw it at the block.
yer be carefull not to nick the cam bearings they say ,hahahaha
Bob Reed was my neighbor three houses down. He run that hemi cuda down road every now and then. RIP bob
Ol' RR was a good guy. Rest in peace Robert Reed.
2:40 you might as well beat the cam into the block with hammer goodness. Made me cry to see that.
I wish they had episodes of the entire build process, even if it was over the course of the season. So you could see every nut, bolt, and part go into place with explanation.
454 was also a good starter for the SR-71 two of them they didn't have no mufflers they just went 0 5000 RPMs to start the engines
And chrome covered 455s for the airshow circuit.
How to break in a machine engine.
Me: mineral oil for the 1st 500miles, few acceleration full throttle under 3500 rpm. Normal use not exceed 2500 rpm for the first 3000miles. To seat the piston rings properly assuring good compression and avoid burning oil prematurely.
Powernation: put engine on dyno fullllll throttle!!!! Max RPM!!!
I realize I'm late to the party, and there are too many comments for me to read them all so forgive me if what I'm about to say is already in the record. I watched this and the Ford 460 video and noticed the 454 Chevy got the benefit of more generous cam timing. The 460 got a Comp 268 High Energy at 218 degrees intake/exhaust. The 454 got a Summit camshaft with 228/238 degrees intake/exhaust. This doesn't make for an even comparison.
Just goes to show how much more free flowing chevys heads are to ford. Especially the big block variants. Pretty easy to make 500 horse out of a big block with oval port heads. Ford big block heads are by far the weakest flowing out of the big three.
BB Fords do tend to need a little more help in the heads department but the aftermarket solves that problem.
Nice job beating the shit out of the cam bearings
@Steve Hicks You've been blinded by boobs dude.
I have a ZZ502 in my 67 Camaro, has gone 6.48@ 104 1/8 mile. Love it and can't kill it.
Love this channel I don’t care what the nay sayers say!
2:43 why didnt he Lube that middle lobe. OCD kicks in on that one.
Why didn't they lube the bearing surfaces,and why did they bang the cam off the cam bearings like a cave man? Simple answer is because these are dumb ass overpaid college grads
Because this show is to plug parts for manufactures and generate youtube revenue. What they did there was definatly not hotrodding.
Hell, it isn't even lowly ''checkbook hotrodding'' since the parts are free for the advertising.
Watching him put that came in made me cringe
@@earlbrown generate ad rev? Bro these shows are 20 years old or close to it
@@lockonstratos7787 2009 in the ending credits...
Orange vs Blue I like it.
"Things are gonna go together like a burger and a bun" haha love it - Joe is my fav
Mis Chuck to
Please show that 396 small block build! 600+hp and I can't remember tq#'s
call me old. I don't care if the car or truck is fast. I just love the sights and sounds of them.
Its fun to be fast but it seems endless.I just happy puttering around town with my 327.
They need to bring back Horsepower TV
Its on history channel now. I lost it too for a while but found it. Powerblock starts at 6am saturdays on history channel
I’d like to know what the compression ratios are on those builds.
454 with flat tops and those 119cc heads are 7.5 comp
Yall used the smog heads on the Ford... put some dove or c9 heads.. bet it has better numbers then the Chevy
I agree that they wanted the Chebby to win so they made sure the outcome was that.
These guys are the reason cams are called "bump sticks" 😂😂😂🤦
YES. I’ve been looking for a quality 454 build from you guys!
I'm old school, how about gross valve lift and duration, I personally could give a rat's ass about lift at 50 thousands.
I remember these on Spike tv back in that day
Build a Pontiac 400
Olds 455, Buick 455 and a Pontiac 455 face off
why did those idiots pull that motor out anyways?? never liked the montecarlo ! sorry but the timing chain will not last if your making a consistent 500hp it will stretch in a month double roller or not ! spend a few dollars the timing gear is well worth it !
It makes no sense to put performance parts on it and use the small port heads, which are used for low rpm truck applications.
What performance parts? All stock replacement style.
charlesvan13 keep in mind, he did say that this was a budget build
Very informative Im getting my 88 truck rebuild , learning y building as i go on my 454 engine😜
Why are we wasting time with peanut-port heads and a cam with small duration. Obviously these folks have no experience with the big Chevy engines, they need air, lots of it so get rid of those terrible heads and put on at least a very good set of large oval ports with the 2.19/ 1.88 valve package and a cam at least 20 degrees more duration. Something like the 049 or 781 head castings from the 1970's are great. Replace those pistons with something with at least dome big enough to generate 11 to 1 compression with the open chambers heads. If you're going to stick with a dual plane intake then cut out part of the divider and put a 800 cfm carb on it. Big Chevy are limited by the air they can consume so give it some.
Do not like Ford at all Ford does not interchange easily with other Motors Chevy parts interchange with each other all over the place I have a 56 Chevy Gasser called Helter Skelter out of Oceanside California you might have heard of it running 600 horsepower two 1150 strip dominator and sometime Crower fuel injection
From what I gather, anything other than a traditional small block chevy is far too complex for your level of understanding
Are you freaking kidding I had a 327 I went through a lot of 327 super T-10 Rock Crushers you name blowing away Big Blocks then I went to 427 and never look back so don't tell me anything about a small Mouse motors why dump a million dollars into a mouse motor when a Big Block easily will do it
@@rockyeasterline348 lol, I'm saying if it's not an old bowtie, then it's apparently above your level of understanding.. I had to get the crayons out I see
I have a 454 in a 72 Yenko Nova. You guys want to build it?
Whoever clanks a cam into a block like that needs to be smacked. So stupid.
Man....remind me to NEVER install me Camshaft with such Carelessness !!!
Sad to see that such beginner assembly work from so called "Professional" engine builder's !!!
8.75 compression ratio, with gen 5 peanut port heads still beat the Ford wow that's bad.
Yes both Motors are awesome it just depends on how each is built. The Ford 460 will usually cost a little more to build but they are power houses as I do remember what Chandler's Bigfoot trucks did with them back in the day when they were up against the 454 Chevy.
Cheaper to build until one wants to build a stroker. Fords can be stroked to 557 inches with a stock block with little to no machine work for clearance. The stock block will hold together in excess of 1200 horsepower, the stock crank up to 750 horsepower.
I like Ford's but I love Chevys
Respect
Can you build a 454 for my chevy lol
Extra duration and lift to help the bbc win lol
Can watch videos all day, but the smell is the best part of any running engine! 🤙🤙 can’t wait to get that new iPad that send smells as good as audio!
That big block Chevy is a thing of beauty.
What happened to soaking hydraulic lifters in oil to prime them?????? Never see that anymore.
Unnecessary.
I bet the Chevy has a hotter cam. That’s where the power is coming from.
blackericdenice that’s exactly what I was thinking.
Yes, it is a hotter cam.
blackericdenice fords are lame
@@Wanous-hv7zo Chevy are built simple so stupid people can work on them.
@@jeffallen3382 No it's not the heads.
Why dont you use the 454 LS6 camshaft. And square port heads. All of these were stock. Stock also used a 800 cfm Holley.
Also i have L78 396 that has been dynoed pushing 612 hp and 602 ftlbs . i really dont understand how you are really building engines unless your show has a deal with summit auto to push there products.
subbed very interested in the 454 stage 2 build
Is it possible to get a list of parts that you used in the 454 budget rebuild? I have a 454 in my truck and it is in need of some help.
460 exhaust ports are junk and im a Ford guy.... BUT add a set of aftermarket heads and the 385 ford is 100% of the chevy American made is American made! love them Dodges too!
They could have put a set of c9s on it and for better numbers.. plus the Chevy had a better camshaft
The BS of Ford vs. Chevy... you guys didn't even come close to using the same camshafts or a Ford specific camshaft when you built that 460. The 460 was a 218/.494 single pattern and this Chevy here is a 228/238 .540/.540. This is what happens when Chevy guys build Ford stuff. Although, they did use probably the worst BBC heads you can possibly find.
The real rigging of the comparison was using low compression deep dish rebuilder pistons in the 460 from start to finish even with the aluminum heads. low compression is a major disadvantage for big blocks.
No surprise! And to think if chevy would have stuck with these engines like the 454, 350 ect... And solid front axles they might not have to close down any of their manufacturing shops. Nice goin Chevy for killing quality cars and trucks. I say this as a 60s 70's and 80's Chevy fan.
You seem to have a unlimited budget. How about a bbc comparison? In a bbc after market you can duplicate about any bore and stroke combination that Chrysler Ford Ponitac or Olds used
So you got oval ports and rectangle. So see what chevy can do against the others with same bore and stroke combination? That would be a series we all would watch!
Anyone know the color code on that Monte Carlo very nice paint
Me 🙋
Can't say for sure but it looks really close to the factory maroon/burgandy color iroc Camaros had
Go to Car-Parts and look for a 1996 to 2000 Vortech 7400 out of a pickup ($700), its got a factory roller cam. Or better still get one out of a Topkick or Kodiak medium duty truck, it will have a forged crank. Both will have four bolt mains. Starting with a roller cam engines saves money, that's money to spend on a good set of aluminum heads. Don't go to big on the heads, 335cc is almost too big, a little smaller is better in most cases. Comp Cams sells a series of Marine cams that fit a street engine to a tee, the lift is moderate, under .550, because BBC does not have the best geometry. This will last many years with excellent power.
Chevy wins again. Always does
Yep they always handicap the ford so the chevy will always win but yeah.
@@VegasRT500 whats the handicap idiot?
The spacing washers that will position the spark plug optimally in the combustion chamber are the bomb!! Thanks. I am ordering a set now.
A FORD Grind to help the anemic exhaust is worth atleast 30 HP, Comp Grinds are usually copied of what the BBC wants with there good exhaust. The Ford head flows more on the Intake side but exhaust reversion has to be addressed.
Why does that back from commercials guy have to talk like that? You know, that SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!!! CAR CRUSHING MONSTER TRUCKS!!! FLAME THROWING DOMINATORSAURUS!! wrestling announcer voice. - with the hard rock guitar noise that military fighter jets get usually.
Gotta love the mighty RAT
Im a Chevy and Ford Guy. Mustangs and Camaros Rule . One day I will get a Mustang with a Big Block ford . cause the 460 can be built to a 587.
I would still like to see a Mopar 440 in this comparison. That would round out the comparison.
Why wasn't the block oil galleys,etc.,deburred?Oh,and at 14:44,the copper washers are in THOUSANDTHS(.010,.021,.031),not hundredths(.100,.210,.031).........31"hundredths",and the plug would be halfway out of the hole!BTW,even the instruction sheet in front of you says .032!,NOT .031 OR 31 "hundredths",lmao
Next they should do a Basic Budget Big Block Buick Build.
Be nice to know casting number on the peanut port heads you used. With flatops
Backyard-Built-Trucks peanut port heads are junk go for 049 or 781 and put a dome piston in
Old guy reminds me of Mater from "Cars" hahaha... They don't make em like they used to, I mean the guy not the motor. Motor too tho haha
Heavy chevy baby!
WRONG WRONG WRONG.......The Monte Carlo was not the last full size muscle car.. Correct me if I'm wrong but I own a 1996 Chevrolet Impala SS which come stock with a Corvette engine and rear wheel drive and it's a full size Car
Why does this guy talk like that? I'm pretty sure he doesn't talk to his wife over dinner like this.
Seems like mild bell's palsy. Can parilize part of your face
The ford sounds better
flat top prisons??? regular two plane intake ????
i wish you would have used 69 corvette 427, 435 hp heads, same thing On my motor,But I made 610 hp 595 ft pounds
stop using aluminum heads.. instead use the stock heads that all these left the factory with and have a shootout you'll see that Ford 351 Cleveland with a 4V closed chamber heads and 11 to 1 compression well beat every engine ever made in a factory stock shootout to 7500 rpm.
Drinking game- take a drink every time he says "dampener" 4:29
I just took delivery of my new car, it has a 4 cylinder 2.0 turbo that produces 420bhp why you lot still getting no power from them massive engines?
Not bad for peanut port heads it's more than I thought it would make
The smaller port heads will make 500HP easy with just a bigger cam. The 'peanut' moniker name undeservingly gives it a bad image.
I bet it would have been a lot closer if you would have massaged the thermactor exhaust port bumps, the BBF exhaust kills quit a bit of power.
surprise u don't call it a l.s. 6 454 like all the people on the net say just seen a video of a l.s. 7 454 bbc i had to laugh at that then i seen a video on how to build a l.s. 6 454 bbc talk about steering the people wrong i tried to explain that a bbc is not a l.s. engine even in the 70 chevelle ss l.s. there must of been 20 people telling me i was a idiot that the l.s. 6 454 is a bbc all i could think is wtf if u don't believe me look up l.s. 6 454 or the 70 chevelle ss l.s. they all have bbc in them one guy said he paid 350,000 for his car and it had a bbc in it and it was a convertable which i know they never put a l.s. engine in a 70 chevelle convertable stock and the holy grail is the 70 chevelle ss l.s. 7 427 they built 6 of them only and i think 212 of the l.s. 6 454 . i even had people say the car i have is fake because they never built a my car stock . it is a 67 rs ss 427 yenko i even got it from the original owner that got it new but he got it for his son in 67 then his son went to nam in 68 it was sitting ever since then i got it in 86 restored it back to new again
So the 454 made 407hp at 4000rpm? But only 2 more horsepower (409) at 4500rpm? Why not run to 5000+ rpm?
I’m ready for part 2 of that build 💪🏼💪🏼😎👍🏼👍🏼
How about building a small block Dodge 318ci la motor just like you did with the Fords and Chevrolet. I would really be interested in that. It would be a great compare it with the others.
Kenna Craft, jr. To keep with the theme I’d go with a 440 or similar big block
Well I've have a old dodge truck. I rebuilt the 318 in it 23 years ago and it still runs great. Its barely over stock. I was wanting to see what the engine could actually do. The point is, nobody has ever done it for the viewers. P N should feel proud to be the first to show the 318ci LA motor in 3 different stages. It's one of the most reliable engines ever made ranking with the 302ci Ford.
@@kennacraftjr.6513 Check out hughes engines they are mopar guys and have a few dyno sheet builds that are great for learning and data 👍👌
You got 358 small block nascar small blocks that make 850 hp..and these lame big blocks making less than 600HP. Hmmm
Everything they do in thier videos is not old school its all parts from other manufactures its a prefab engine .they dont do any rebuilds from scratch themselves its always buy parts and asemble I dont think they could teardown and machine and fit parts with clearences to performence.
Does anyone else think that Mike is a lookalike to Chase Elliot? I swear that if he put on a NAPA driving suit they'd be identical.
Onecomplaint I usually have with youtube is all the blab and posturing but this was actually short form to the point.
Open chamber heads and dished pistons. So the bbc is making around 7.5:1 compression ratio???
I like Ford but they have some seriously restrictive heads on some of their engines.
Stepside1986 the heads on the 454 are the junk peanut port heads
@@Wanous-hv7zo I was not commenting on any engine on the show. I was referring to most fords in general.
This show is like digital crack. I am subconsciously completely obsessed with this...
I remember working on several Chevy 454s back in the 70s. The rocker studs used to loosen up so I tried different fixes; lok-tite and dimpling around the stud after tightening etc. But nothing seemed to work for very long, and after a while I decided the 454, with it's weak water pump and leaky gaskets, was not a very good engine. The 396/409 on the other hand....!
@Jack Russelle Lewis The 396 was actually a good engine, it produced 375hp in stock form but with the big 4bbrl carb and dual exhaust they could achieve 425. This made them less reliable, which is why GM came out with the 427. The 396 was an option for the corvettes, which made them very front heavy, but a real blast at drag strips. The 396/275hp engine was used in the GM 600-700-800 series trucks, it was powerful, reliable, and more economical to run and a good alternative to the 348. Where I worked, GM offered the Detroit Diesels in our trucks instead of the 396, but my boss decided to stick with the gas engines.
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