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I cAll bull on the build the ford had a hydraulic roller, then you say you are gonna keep it the same just stop lying, let the result be what they are who cares if one brand makes more
Years back I built an early '80s Monte SS for a customer, a 454 with an inexpensive Eagle stroker kit (496") with mildly ported oval port heads, a solid lifter Comp cam, and an open plenum intake covered by an 850 Holley, a modified TH400 and a 9" Ford rear axle. With good traction on a set of Quick Times it'd carry the front wheels roughly 4 inches off the pavement about 30ft out! Good times!
Not really. This car would have been 10 times better and just as fast with a lightly modded all-aluminum small block, like the 6.0, instead of that heavy boat anchor 454 in the nose.
@Charged So, you're happy to sacrifice handling for the sake of being able to brag that your car has a 454 in it, even if it's not any faster than a modern V8 ?
@@nickmotsarsky4382 I have one with a modded 6.0 and one with a similar 454 and let me tell you, my favorite of the two is the big block car, and yes it’s not as fast but a hell of a lot more fun
One of my friends from Western Hills High School in Fort Worth Texas him and his grandpa that was a Master Mechanic did this to his grandmother's car without her knowing what's that lived on a farm so they had about five different Vehicles so it took her a little while to find out but man what a beast
THIS VIDEO BLEW MY MIND, i myself have an 85 monte carlo, and everything you guys did to this beauty, and i mean everything, is the exact plan i have for my baby girl. Thank you guys you absolutely made my day, i thank you!
@@mewrongwayKOCXF with a fucking turbo. do it n/a, no power adders, and make it streetable. not happening. oh and btw, that 4.8 ls and turbo would cost insane amounts of money to put into a monte. bbc still wins, especially in the tq and streetability area.
@@mewrongwayKOCXF lol. That LS is turbocharged, that 454 and 502 are NA engines. Little lesson for you bud. When an engine is setup correctly, You'll get around 1HP per 1CI. It's not exact, but your never really gonna exceed that by 10 or 20%, especially while keeping the powerband in a usable range. If you want more power, then either more cubes, or boost. The 4.8L will make around 300HP, NA. For a 4.8L engine to reach 460HP, you'll need about 8 pounds of boost. It's as simple as that. However, with traditional ford and GM engines, you can make power without spending stupid money on an engine. I could build a 305 that would make about 300FT Lbs for about a grand. An LS conversion? Try about $10,000.
I completely forgot about that project. That would be one sweet weekend cruiser.
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With the brake upgrade, sweet exhaust and cold air conditioning I'd use it as a daily driver to and from work. Toss a bad ass sound system in and never lose the excitement.
That's a dream job... I'd gladly play with the latest and greatest high performance parts building hotrods and getting paid 6 figures to boot... Hell I'd do it for free... Hint hint power nation! HMU! Seriously
@@brentiaconelli6484 I've been a tech for 23 years and as hard as it is to believe it's not quite as glamorous as these hot rod tv shows when you're fixing every day beaters.
@@mastertek383 i wasn't talking about wrenching on commuter cars was a dream job... I was talking about building hotrods in a new shop with a/c and a endless budget and no pressure
Hey, some guys that know how to shift gears. Glad you did it and all the suspension mods. That car in stock form was a slush bucket. Hopefully you reinforced that terrible weak body too.
I was doing the compressed air in the cylinder trick to hold the valves up 30 years ago. If the engine is in a manual trans car, make sure it's in neutral when you hook up the air or the car will move.
Man I had two friends in high school that got these brand new when they were 17. Loved the car, hated them. But that heavy, low powered V8 couldn't beat my 5 speed 1979 Toyota Supra Celica. Got em at the line all the time and prayed they didn't catch up. Never lost but never told them about my 100 shot of nitrous! Wish I had the "Go Baby Go" button like Gone is 60 seconds! Fun times racing on back country roads.
Being 58 yrs old, 502 does nothing to give me a rise, I mean I’m a Pontiac guy, but 454 earns my respect and admiration, and I recall the awesome 71 454 Monte Carlo in my neighborhood, you know that’s what killed GM for me, who wants a 403 Trans Am, or a Chevy Firebird,
I run the car maintenance RUclips channel in Korea. I'm always learning such a great ideas on your channel. I hope we have a chance to be together. Thank you.
GSI Interiors makes the best mcss upholstery, that is also a 1986, camaro style mirrors, 86-88 dash trim with pinstripe and ‘Chevrolet’ and as someone pointed out first year for third brake light 💡85’ was the only year to use dark grey woodgrain with silver trim on cluster, bread box and AC vent panel with orange and red Monte Carlo badge.
Between the accessories and the driveline that adds up to a 38.4% loss. That's why my T-Bucket has an electric water pump and power steering and no AC (besides the fact that without a roof AC is useless) and the only thing belt driven is the 100 amp alternator. I can't help how much I'm losing through the transmission and U-joints because that's pretty much outside my control, but I do have converter lockup on gears 2-4 to eliminate converter losses.
@@bilbobaggins4710 come at me bro ik, but its a comment for if they actually read these. Its not a comment for future ep ideas... Im just trying to be nice.
I think the automatic suits the nature of the Monte more than a manual. Monte Carlo is more of a cruiser, not really a hardcore sports car at all. I like a manual transmission as much as the next guy, but on a high horsepower, high torque V8 like this car, the automatic is a hell of a lot easier to drive and hook up. And if you're bracket racing, consistency is key, the "cool factor" of a manual becomes a huge liability.
@@aaronbays4 I somewhat agree, but you just don't see very many Montes rolling around with a manual, especially since it was already cut up for a T56. They probably lifted it for another project like the 502.
In 1992 i bought a 1984 malibu station wagon. Then took a 402 big block highrise intake 750 double pumper. i had and went to work on it. It made 550+hp. Put it in the wagon with a 400 trans with 3000 stall converter and added a 12 bolt pos with i think it was 3.90 gear. (I cant remember. The front coil springs were changed. Car was lowered. It rumbled like the engine in the video. I wanted to change the engine out for a 400 SB with a 8/71 injected blower. Had the engine. Just not the blower and hardware. I rode the car for a year then sold it and moved on. I was just 23.
I like the 502 crate motor. 130 hp at the wheel? No wonder the 5.0 from the same time laid the smack down so hard. The Camaro was the same until it got its TPI.
Not crazy at all with its 12 and 15 degree valve angles....drop an 18 degree head on there and watch out...I build them both the key to LS WAS the heads....and for damn sure the key to a good BBC is the heads and a spot on cam choice for the stroke and head...they easily left 200 streetable horsepower on the table....pull them junker heads that dont match up with their HYD roller and drop a set of 300cc oval port AFR heads on it with a custom hyd roller using hybrid solid lifters then it would brutalize the tires at 60mph...... The LS is such a steal because the valve angle on that 6.2l you refer is what nascar used to run LOL ( where their build was 50 year old 24 degree crapola) with literally larger ports....most people dont understand just how trick the air entry angle along with insano cfm they are getting from the factory with LS.....love em both I like the LS at moderate or NA power....i like my BBC at over 1000 stock block power....my block is 52 years old and been holding over 1000 for 6 years... I'd love to see chevy reintroduce say a 496 with a 15 to 18 degree valve angle...hell you can buy 18 degree heads that use common 24 degree parts now....... That for 454 needs some boost
Yes but at an entirely different way. The bb puts down massive torque quick. A 600 hp 6.0 n/a is more of a race high rpm engine the bb is a street low rpm engine.
@@joshkrause2977 Im not saying there isn’t a case for a BB. I’m just saying the 420 WHP here isn’t exactly impressive. It’s also making 420 lb-ft so it’s not really making heaps of torque either. The big block advantages likely aren’t felt in this build. I’m sure it’s still fun…
If I had a race car and a million dollar rig and needed some friends to help me go racing, my friends would say: "I have a couple things to do in the morning, but maybe I can get away in the afternoon if I get done, so let me know what time you'll have everything ready, and if I can get away I'll come out and watch you run your race car".
Actually, the concern over solid rollers is not blowing the needle bearings after 7,000 miles. But solid rollers and a MANual are a great combo. Automatics have come a long way, and I have a manual valve body/switch pitch torque converter THM400...but a clutch means i'm not stuck with only two stall speeds. For the sake of argument, yes, David Vizard's book to make cheap hp can teach you how to make this HP level with a Chevy 383 for affordable prices, and not have to deal with a steaming hot big block taking up airflow space in an engine compartment in July.
Good luck getting the monte to hook up. I've seen them struggle with a well built 350sbc. On the street anyway. Two coworkers raced outside our shop and the built monte lost to a bolt on camaro with a five liter that hooked up well. The monte spun tires the whole race and lost over and over.
What happened to to the 5sd at start of vid? Now the Auto trans cooler will add more heat🔥 You will need a Hi amp alt with the Electric Fans if they draw more than 10 amp each. A good fan like a Spal will draw 15-20 amps X2 continuously. Upgrade 2 to 4ga alt output cable& 2/30 or 1/60 amp fuse&relays on Speed controler as you still have conden fan for AC or track cool down🥶
The Guy with the race outfit is one lucky SOB. Great car, great rig, and a marvellous family. Thanks for this vid, it gives us foreigners an insight into how you guys do stuff. But reverting back to a spaz box? that just goes against the grain old chap
@Ale Jr. torque is king. I really like a big Block Chevy but I also have a strong appreciation for big Block Ford's cause they're naturally a tall deck block at 10.200" versus chevs 9.800" deck height which makes the perfect stroker engine, plus a 460 is tough as hell and every factory block can take a .100" overbore easily which will net you 521 ci when stroked. Chevy can't do that so to each their own but they both will roast tires!
@@Kmecha84 I actually have 2 stock blocks 50ft from me both 10.200 Chevy and HAVE bored one .100 over(505ci but my buds have run 511ci) ......all 3 of my spare blocks are sonic checked good to .100 over...I'm running 70 over with 17 psi of boost thru the one in my car on pump gas for 6 years using an F1A-94 procharger...they are indestructible....52 year old blocks holding 1200hp its nuts...cant kill it and I've had failures that should have...... Then again I've had a 429 Ford that literally tossed a rod out the pan in law beat the pan back together welded a patch on it....put one rod, bearing and piston in and drove it several more years....lol
@@bluecollardaily2676 yeah those blocks are the tall deck grain truck engines. I was talking about the production blocks that everyone else has Kickin around
@@Kmecha84 I've built 2 and have 2...I'd say anyone can grab one in the time of LS they are stupid cheap...all register 4 bolt main...hold north of 1000hp I know personally. Allow me to use a 6.8,6.9 even 7.1 inch long rod depending on stroke... Honestly with everyone hyped about LS ( and I build those as well just completed a 402 stroker LS3 with ported LSA blower on it laid down 624whp on a baby cam ( it's for a doctor ) and 8 psi stall unlocked, 650 locked, great engines) allowed me to gather and even build my 1200+ HP BBC in my 67 Camaro DIRT cheap the F1A-94 procharger cost more than entire engine and I got a good deal on that too.... I got $1000 gas ported Probe 2618 blower pistons for my long rods for $260 complete set brand new its insanity...... I prefer the tall decks with above 4 inch stroke BUT man I know guys that buy big m short deck BBC drives me nuts.... My BBC short stroke long rod will turn near the rpm my 19 Supercharged A10 mustang will hehe.... The bbc is there on the hit instantly the Coyote starts really pulling about 300ft out it's such a daylight and dark I like em both for different reasons..... NOW I must say building them years and I cannot get them to not have a leak somewhere after some real street boost time haha love the modern engine seals....
Can I just give a point out that the only advantage solid rollers have over hydraulic rollers is the valvetrain stability at very high rpm. Engine Masters did a test on this changing nothing but the lifters in an engine and only saw a 10hp drop at before rolling over on power at 6900rpm. Solid roller enigne carried to 7300 before rolling over.
Hydraulics over solid was a surprise to me. Never once entered my mind. But the mind is a terrible thing to waste and lucky for me I come without one. Wives and race tracks don't mix too good. I liked pedal to the metal feelings
Ken Rainwater certainly has more to worry about than how he controls his racecar!! Imagine having two beautiful daughters surrounded by men in a man's dominated sport. May god bless Ken. Hopefully his wife keeps a watchful eye on his daughters.
I've missed Horsepower TV it's been years since I watched it when I was a teenager to adult and now you have to get the HD expanded package from Comcast Xfinity
oh, i bet the stock internals of that car (even the minor parts) will hold up real well with a 454 in it. 2 weeks at most before an explosion of nuts and bolts everywhere!
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I cAll bull on the build the ford had a hydraulic roller, then you say you are gonna keep it the same just stop lying, let the result be what they are who cares if one brand makes more
@@TheUsmc0802 These are old uploads, he's not working on the show anymore.
I know, and thank you, he was on the muscle car one for a while. Apparently he's gone for good now.
Years back I built an early '80s Monte SS for a customer, a 454 with an inexpensive Eagle stroker kit (496") with mildly ported oval port heads, a solid lifter Comp cam, and an open plenum intake covered by an 850 Holley, a modified TH400 and a 9" Ford rear axle.
With good traction on a set of Quick Times it'd carry the front wheels roughly 4 inches off the pavement about 30ft out!
Good times!
more HP I would say. had one with a Merkel 454 2 bottles and was fun. owned more than 8 G bodies. love them
That's that engine that belongs in that car. The SS 454 Monte was a classic.
Yeah what you said
That’s a perfect remake of the 454 Monte Carlo SS
Not really. This car would have been 10 times better and just as fast with a lightly modded all-aluminum small block, like the 6.0, instead of that heavy boat anchor 454 in the nose.
@Charged So, you're happy to sacrifice handling for the sake of being able to brag that your car has a 454 in it, even if it's not any faster than a modern V8 ?
@@nickmotsarsky4382 I have one with a modded 6.0 and one with a similar 454 and let me tell you, my favorite of the two is the big block car, and yes it’s not as fast but a hell of a lot more fun
One of my friends from Western Hills High School in Fort Worth Texas him and his grandpa that was a Master Mechanic did this to his grandmother's car without her knowing what's that lived on a farm so they had about five different Vehicles so it took her a little while to find out but man what a beast
Building a 79 malibu with a big block 496 & tall valve covers. This video just saved the hell out my AC box. Great idea. Thanks. 💯
alex collins Outstanding
You're gonna love that 496!
Gotta love learning a cool trick! Useful!
Hell yeah man glad to hear someone is running an 8.1L
THIS VIDEO BLEW MY MIND, i myself have an 85 monte carlo, and everything you guys did to this beauty, and i mean everything, is the exact plan i have for my baby girl. Thank you guys you absolutely made my day, i thank you!
Definitely a bucket list build, but I want a procharger on mine😏
This feels so mid 2000s and I love it.
i use to love this when i was a kid... on spike.
Joe Elmore is a true living legend.....put him on mount Rushmore or give him a JD Powers and Associates award.....something🏆
Agree 👍 miss him
A 454 and a 2004R, excellent! This is something more for the average budget joe. More stuff like this, less of the newer crap.
Old show brother
@@mewrongwayKOCXF Sure it does buddy, sure it does. :rollseyes:
@@mewrongwayKOCXF 502 was rated at 502 flywheel hp by Chevrolet. 82hp drivetrain loss is par for the course. 420rwhp.
@@mewrongwayKOCXF with a fucking turbo. do it n/a, no power adders, and make it streetable. not happening. oh and btw, that 4.8 ls and turbo would cost insane amounts of money to put into a monte. bbc still wins, especially in the tq and streetability area.
@@mewrongwayKOCXF lol. That LS is turbocharged, that 454 and 502 are NA engines. Little lesson for you bud. When an engine is setup correctly, You'll get around 1HP per 1CI. It's not exact, but your never really gonna exceed that by 10 or 20%, especially while keeping the powerband in a usable range. If you want more power, then either more cubes, or boost. The 4.8L will make around 300HP, NA. For a 4.8L engine to reach 460HP, you'll need about 8 pounds of boost. It's as simple as that. However, with traditional ford and GM engines, you can make power without spending stupid money on an engine. I could build a 305 that would make about 300FT Lbs for about a grand. An LS conversion? Try about $10,000.
man I remember watching this show when I was a kid.
I completely forgot about that project. That would be one sweet weekend cruiser.
With the brake upgrade, sweet exhaust and cold air conditioning I'd use it as a daily driver to and from work. Toss a bad ass sound system in and never lose the excitement.
Mike Mason 🎯Exactly
Excellent show, you guys really keep the viewer in mind!
I bet these guys were pissed when they were told to convert the car back over after cutting in a manual shift.
Matthew Thompson thought the same exact thing😂
"You gotta be blowing me" -the mechanic probably
That's a dream job... I'd gladly play with the latest and greatest high performance parts building hotrods and getting paid 6 figures to boot... Hell I'd do it for free... Hint hint power nation! HMU! Seriously
@@brentiaconelli6484 I've been a tech for 23 years and as hard as it is to believe it's not quite as glamorous as these hot rod tv shows when you're fixing every day beaters.
@@mastertek383 i wasn't talking about wrenching on commuter cars was a dream job... I was talking about building hotrods in a new shop with a/c and a endless budget and no pressure
@@brentiaconelli6484 Yeah I knew what you were saying. It was supposed to be a funny but it was only a dummy. Catastrophic failure to the core.
The sound that 454 makes🤤soo good
even better through Flowmaster ‘Super50’ mufflers
i would love another episode about the "mighty carlo"
(like if u agree)
I had an 85 Monte Carlo ss and it was my baby... she was lost in the flooding from huricane Sandy 😭... I love this build!!!!
I really enjoy watching them do builds that are in my reach financially. Makes my wife nervous though. 😀
Good thing only you have to experience that shit show that is your wife.
Dm So bro that’s great😂😂😂
The color suits that car, so does the 454...But really, the color on that monte is amazing 👍
My first car was a handed down 1984 ss still have the car i just transplanted a LS 6.0
fucking lucky
Thats wassup. Did you run it on dyno yet?
My first car that I bought was a 73 Z/28. And yes, like a dumbass I sold it in 94. Don't sell your Monte.
Bruce Frye
Video or your lying
@@seththomas9105 yea bro. a lot of people ask me am i selling my caprice & i say "no im keeping it"
What a great idea 12:51 A kid wrenching those turbo impellers
I don’t think he’s hurting anything
@@bobhilly546312156332 That's not the point.
That little man makes sure the impellers are torqued to spec before every race.
Fuad Hirmas I know but maybe the kid will go to actual wrenching on something
That 454 sounds badass in that Monte.
The 454 and a 455 nice motors👍🏻😎
Love the jock jams in the background
Hey, some guys that know how to shift gears. Glad you did it and all the suspension mods. That car in stock form was a slush bucket. Hopefully you reinforced that terrible weak body too.
Nothing Beats a N/A Big Block(Except a Blower) .. no turbo.
It's crazy look how far we've come now you can make that same power with a 6.0 LS with some minor mods..🍺
Those girls make travelin in that rig fun for sure! 😉
They are like 14 you sick asshole.
I vote for Watts link for the rear....
I know this build is finished but I haven't seen it so I can have some fun with it. 😃
I was doing the compressed air in the cylinder trick to hold the valves up 30 years ago. If the engine is in a manual trans car, make sure it's in neutral when you hook up the air or the car will move.
Man I remember this guys show on spike tv back in the day
The best show on spike tv back in the day😌
@@miguelhernandez-no5fx and the ultimate fighter season 1 🤣
Rest in peace joe elmore
The best part of this video (12:51) was the shot of his son cranking on the turbo nut with a wrench. Another future racer in the making lmao.
Those 200r4s are great trans lightweight parts and lower gears
Man I had two friends in high school that got these brand new when they were 17. Loved the car, hated them. But that heavy, low powered V8 couldn't beat my 5 speed 1979 Toyota Supra Celica. Got em at the line all the time and prayed they didn't catch up. Never lost but never told them about my 100 shot of nitrous! Wish I had the "Go Baby Go" button like Gone is 60 seconds! Fun times racing on back country roads.
12:55 - The kid putting the spanner into the turbo. Bad kid!
The 450 engine is a BEAST 💪💰
And in the 70's they came with them already installed!
It's always nice seeing what the rich folks are doing :)
Yep
This one and the street truck best videos far yet keep doin old schools 😎
Always loved those G-body cars ...
Being 58 yrs old, 502 does nothing to give me a rise, I mean I’m a Pontiac guy, but 454 earns my respect and admiration, and I recall the awesome 71 454 Monte Carlo in my neighborhood, you know that’s what killed GM for me, who wants a 403 Trans Am, or a Chevy Firebird,
I run the car maintenance RUclips channel in Korea. I'm always learning such a great ideas on your channel. I hope we have a chance to be together. Thank you.
GSI Interiors makes the best mcss upholstery, that is also a 1986, camaro style mirrors, 86-88 dash trim with pinstripe and ‘Chevrolet’ and as someone pointed out first year for third brake light 💡85’ was the only year to use dark grey woodgrain with silver trim on cluster, bread box and AC vent panel with orange and red Monte Carlo badge.
Between the accessories and the driveline that adds up to a 38.4% loss. That's why my T-Bucket has an electric water pump and power steering and no AC (besides the fact that without a roof AC is useless) and the only thing belt driven is the 100 amp alternator. I can't help how much I'm losing through the transmission and U-joints because that's pretty much outside my control, but I do have converter lockup on gears 2-4 to eliminate converter losses.
Glad they pray before race GOD BLESS HIS PEOPLE.. ALWAYS..
One of the better videos u guys have done so far :)
It's an old show from cable TV bro
@@bilbobaggins4710 come at me bro ik, but its a comment for if they actually read these. Its not a comment for future ep ideas... Im just trying to be nice.
Yeah well I mangled one of those valve spring compressors with a set of triple valve springs for a big fat solid roller.
Went from a manual back to an auto, BOOO!
@Morning star Garage there is more to driving than drag racing
I think the automatic suits the nature of the Monte more than a manual. Monte Carlo is more of a cruiser, not really a hardcore sports car at all. I like a manual transmission as much as the next guy, but on a high horsepower, high torque V8 like this car, the automatic is a hell of a lot easier to drive and hook up. And if you're bracket racing, consistency is key, the "cool factor" of a manual becomes a huge liability.
@Morning star Garage I know they're faster, but all of that effort just to go back.
@@aaronbays4 I somewhat agree, but you just don't see very many Montes rolling around with a manual, especially since it was already cut up for a T56. They probably lifted it for another project like the 502.
@@Da40kOrks Lemme know when you can have a spontaneous multi lap circuit race.
Drag racing has been around since the 2nd car was built.
Love it! Welding inside the car with all that molten welding flash landing on the plastic and fabric interior. WTF.
aww come on! the manual was the best part!
dumpster diver exactly
automatics are faster overall .
jim crawford so what. For fuk sake no one cares
In 1992 i bought a 1984 malibu station wagon. Then took a 402 big block highrise intake 750 double pumper. i had and went to work on it. It made 550+hp. Put it in the wagon with a 400 trans with 3000 stall converter and added a 12 bolt pos with i think it was 3.90 gear. (I cant remember. The front coil springs were changed. Car was lowered. It rumbled like the engine in the video. I wanted to change the engine out for a 400 SB with a 8/71 injected blower. Had the engine. Just not the blower and hardware. I rode the car for a year then sold it and moved on. I was just 23.
Finally!! I’ve been waiting for this lol
The amount of money that dude has in his rig and car Damn
Astronomical amount of money
Man you people good ya'll build my motor anyday good work
Now that's a super sport Monte
Love this build
I like the 502 crate motor. 130 hp at the wheel? No wonder the 5.0 from the same time laid the smack down so hard. The Camaro was the same until it got its TPI.
I miss my Monte Carlo she was my angel and she give her life to save me
No... you crashed it like a dumbfuck and happened to survive
@@idontlikecops1 Damn das cold bro lol
Love joe Elmore ...good to see him again.
drills whole in floor board for shifter. changes trans to a automatic. come on guys
This monte is beautiful
comp hydraulic lifters that have lunati logos 2:30
Probably had the script written before the build and had some issue with the Comp lifters so they just grabbed those.
Makes sense.
Awesome MONTE CARLO
It's crazy how a 6.2L (376) LS could put that kind of power to the wheels with relative ease.
Not crazy at all with its 12 and 15 degree valve angles....drop an 18 degree head on there and watch out...I build them both the key to LS WAS the heads....and for damn sure the key to a good BBC is the heads and a spot on cam choice for the stroke and head...they easily left 200 streetable horsepower on the table....pull them junker heads that dont match up with their HYD roller and drop a set of 300cc oval port AFR heads on it with a custom hyd roller using hybrid solid lifters then it would brutalize the tires at 60mph......
The LS is such a steal because the valve angle on that 6.2l you refer is what nascar used to run LOL ( where their build was 50 year old 24 degree crapola) with literally larger ports....most people dont understand just how trick the air entry angle along with insano cfm they are getting from the factory with LS.....love em both I like the LS at moderate or NA power....i like my BBC at over 1000 stock block power....my block is 52 years old and been holding over 1000 for 6 years...
I'd love to see chevy reintroduce say a 496 with a 15 to 18 degree valve angle...hell you can buy 18 degree heads that use common 24 degree parts now.......
That for 454 needs some boost
with twice the money cost.
Yes but at an entirely different way. The bb puts down massive torque quick. A 600 hp 6.0 n/a is more of a race high rpm engine the bb is a street low rpm engine.
@@joshkrause2977 Im not saying there isn’t a case for a BB. I’m just saying the 420 WHP here isn’t exactly impressive. It’s also making 420 lb-ft so it’s not really making heaps of torque either. The big block advantages likely aren’t felt in this build. I’m sure it’s still fun…
That car is EPIC
Monte carlo did come from factory with manual trans. 1979,1980.4spd. Under v8 305 and v6.very hard to find them today.
buddy put a 454 in a cutlass back in highschool. had to shoehorn it in there. no power steering for him anymore lol
If I had a race car and a million dollar rig and needed some friends to help me go racing, my friends would say: "I have a couple things to do in the morning, but maybe I can get away in the afternoon if I get done, so let me know what time you'll have everything ready, and if I can get away I'll come out and watch you run your race car".
nice set up, wanna see her run. props
Makes me wonder if they just bolted those heads on or if they checked the spring height and seats first
Actually, the concern over solid rollers is not blowing the needle bearings after 7,000 miles. But solid rollers and a MANual are a great combo. Automatics have come a long way, and I have a manual valve body/switch pitch torque converter THM400...but a clutch means i'm not stuck with only two stall speeds.
For the sake of argument, yes, David Vizard's book to make cheap hp can teach you how to make this HP level with a Chevy 383 for affordable prices, and not have to deal with a steaming hot big block taking up airflow space in an engine compartment in July.
The first run made 420hp?
That's pretty blunt.
cheers
@Dave Micolichek 🤣
Good luck getting the monte to hook up. I've seen them struggle with a well built 350sbc. On the street anyway. Two coworkers raced outside our shop and the built monte lost to a bolt on camaro with a five liter that hooked up well. The monte spun tires the whole race and lost over and over.
Driver error 😁
That's why they call it the G-Body shuffle lol
car is too light overall
Wow. She's a gorgeous one!!
What happened to to the 5sd at start of vid? Now the Auto trans cooler will add more heat🔥 You will need a Hi amp alt with the Electric Fans if they draw more than 10 amp each. A good fan like a Spal will draw 15-20 amps X2 continuously. Upgrade 2 to 4ga alt output cable& 2/30 or 1/60 amp fuse&relays on Speed controler as you still have conden fan for AC or track cool down🥶
not that hard to find, just check out Mechman Alternators, because they have some that put out around 370 Amps (200 Amps @ idle)
The Guy with the race outfit is one lucky SOB. Great car, great rig, and a marvellous family. Thanks for this vid, it gives us foreigners an insight into how you guys do stuff.
But reverting back to a spaz box? that just goes against the grain old chap
G bodies ROCK 🇺🇸💪
I would love to have you guys drop this setup in my 83 el camino. It has a crap v6 snd sketchy trans
Brian Tucker -or even better...a small block 400. Weight loss and HP gain w/ plenty of twisting torque. Not a fan of any Big Block. ✌️
Are you using assembly lube on the cam lobes or lifters and just not showing it on video? Looks like they are going in dry
Great build!
Those black rims. Guess I’m too old school. I want my chrome wheels so bright, they burn the retinas. 😎😎😎😎
Just put a a 454 in a 82 Chevy Caprice 4dr. It’s bad ass & I haven’t done anything to it yet
Ford we built the same way.....bullshit.
The Chevy had an aftermarket crank, bigger heads and a bigger cam. Of course it would make more HP.
Bigger heads? Huh?
@Ale Jr. torque is king. I really like a big Block Chevy but I also have a strong appreciation for big Block Ford's cause they're naturally a tall deck block at 10.200" versus chevs 9.800" deck height which makes the perfect stroker engine, plus a 460 is tough as hell and every factory block can take a .100" overbore easily which will net you 521 ci when stroked. Chevy can't do that so to each their own but they both will roast tires!
@@Kmecha84 I actually have 2 stock blocks 50ft from me both 10.200 Chevy and HAVE bored one .100 over(505ci but my buds have run 511ci) ......all 3 of my spare blocks are sonic checked good to .100 over...I'm running 70 over with 17 psi of boost thru the one in my car on pump gas for 6 years using an F1A-94 procharger...they are indestructible....52 year old blocks holding 1200hp its nuts...cant kill it and I've had failures that should have......
Then again I've had a 429 Ford that literally tossed a rod out the pan in law beat the pan back together welded a patch on it....put one rod, bearing and piston in and drove it several more years....lol
@@bluecollardaily2676 yeah those blocks are the tall deck grain truck engines. I was talking about the production blocks that everyone else has Kickin around
@@Kmecha84 I've built 2 and have 2...I'd say anyone can grab one in the time of LS they are stupid cheap...all register 4 bolt main...hold north of 1000hp I know personally. Allow me to use a 6.8,6.9 even 7.1 inch long rod depending on stroke...
Honestly with everyone hyped about LS ( and I build those as well just completed a 402 stroker LS3 with ported LSA blower on it laid down 624whp on a baby cam ( it's for a doctor ) and 8 psi stall unlocked, 650 locked, great engines) allowed me to gather and even build my 1200+ HP BBC in my 67 Camaro DIRT cheap the F1A-94 procharger cost more than entire engine and I got a good deal on that too....
I got $1000 gas ported Probe 2618 blower pistons for my long rods for $260 complete set brand new its insanity......
I prefer the tall decks with above 4 inch stroke BUT man I know guys that buy big m short deck BBC drives me nuts....
My BBC short stroke long rod will turn near the rpm my 19 Supercharged A10 mustang will hehe....
The bbc is there on the hit instantly the Coyote starts really pulling about 300ft out it's such a daylight and dark I like em both for different reasons.....
NOW I must say building them years and I cannot get them to not have a leak somewhere after some real street boost time haha love the modern engine seals....
One of the good looking cars of the 80s.
9:14 - "I need, uh... water, or something..."
😂
Why change it from standard to automatic save the manuals 😏😏
Manuals all I drive in my chevys
0711boomer yes, automatics are boring
Because they want to win some races
hueroski right, their team is so competitive!
😂😂😂 smh like you cant win manuals.. you sure can win with manuals lol
Autos are faster.. And at the end of the day if your making a street racer you want to be fast~
I shoved a 396 inside my 83 Monte carlo. Barley had enough room to reach my spark plugs. Plus had custom headers to fit
Tbi 454 a tbi 2.8 truck/car. use the 2.8 parts, exhaust, tbi, fuel pump, radiator, transmission, air cleaner housing on 454. The 2.8 parts are tuff.
Makes me want to finish my 85 ss
Did you finish it??
@@Lorenzo-vb1so unfortunately no. Thanks to my daughter and wife the car completely rusted underneath
Can I just give a point out that the only advantage solid rollers have over hydraulic rollers is the valvetrain stability at very high rpm. Engine Masters did a test on this changing nothing but the lifters in an engine and only saw a 10hp drop at before rolling over on power at 6900rpm. Solid roller enigne carried to 7300 before rolling over.
where can I see the rear end swap and the 5 speed install episode?
That's a bad ass machine right there
That guys getting sick.
Got my own 84 SS And you guys get me rev'ed up to do stuff!! 😅 Nice Work! ✌
Hydraulics over solid was a surprise to me. Never once entered my mind. But the mind is a terrible thing to waste and lucky for me I come without one. Wives and race tracks don't mix too good. I liked pedal to the metal feelings
Ken Rainwater certainly has more to worry about than how he controls his racecar!! Imagine having two beautiful daughters surrounded by men in a man's dominated sport. May god bless Ken. Hopefully his wife keeps a watchful eye on his daughters.
Im trying to do a 454 swap in my 86 cutlass. I need help with a rad for it. Thats all i need help with. Cant find what one works best
I've missed Horsepower TV it's been years since I watched it when I was a teenager to adult and now you have to get the HD expanded package from Comcast Xfinity
Or you can bypass your cable stealer and get it right from their own web site.
oh, i bet the stock internals of that car (even the minor parts) will hold up real well with a 454 in it. 2 weeks at most before an explosion of nuts and bolts everywhere!
that’s why you have the motor stripped down, and rebuilt with A-R-P Bolts to make sure that the motor doesn’t “grenade” itself