Best Non Tesla Electric Car?
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- Опубликовано: 29 окт 2018
- 2019 Chevrolet Bolt EV Review. We see if its the best EV and if its better than the Tesla Model 3.
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It's the best car to show Tesla that you can get the car when you want to .
TheStraightPipes no Tesla Model 3 by far!
u can install lvl2 charger at home
Review the Kona EV.
jakob why there a picture of a but when you are calling yuri using adnroid auto
Etiquette wise
Tesla puts it best, once done charging, at their superchargers every minute after charge is done, they give 10 minutes grace time, then start charging a fine per minute over, and charge it to one's supercharger account, simple, etiquette needs enforcement
I like that
All that happens is the Tesla drivers who need to charge for longer than 20 minutes they use the J plug chargers instead, leave their car there for 3-4 hours and don't use the super chargers.
My thoughts on the charging situation: If you can't plug it in when you get home and leave it until you get in it the next day, an EV probably isn't practical for you. People get hung up on these charge times, but that's only from a completely drained battery. With an EV, you don't do that. You plug it in when you get home, and you forget about it. It's always topped up by the next day. It's not an issue at all. It's not like a gas car which you mostly just fill up when it's almost empty. If you need to regularly make trips longer than the EV's range, or if you don't have a dedicated charging spot to leave it when you're home (garage, or driveway with access to a plug), then get a hybrid instead. All this talk about long charge times and struggling to find chargers confuses people and scares a lot of them away from EVs.
Very well said Matt ! You are right-on. '20 Bolt Premier
That is only assuming the customer has a 240 volt charger at home. If all they have is 120 that changes the game. Also how do they use the vehicle? For many people an EV is just not reasonable.
@@thadrepairsitall1278 re: "That is only assuming the customer has a 240 volt charger at home." no, what Matt states actually works for basic Level 1 charging. people lie to themselves about how many miles they're driving (relative to their house) on a daily basis. if you're basically a "nomad" a "wanderer" and constantly taking long trips to God knows where (for God knows what reason) then the reality is an EV isn't for you. yeah not even a fancy Tesla really, cause if one was ALREADY going on these excursions prior to the arrival of EV's, then these far away destinations are clearly MORE IMPORTANT than what you're using to get there.
if you have a tesla with a V3 charger near you, its easy to charge up for 20 min once a week, even with the bolt i think they were overestimating the DC fast charging times
I drive an average of 50 miles per day and I use a Bolt EUV. For me a L2 charger is a must. Plugging into a regular outlet just doesn’t charge it quickly enough. Luckily Chevy paid for my L2 charger installation so I’m set.
I love my Bolt.
Bolt owner here. We put level 2 in the garage at home.
Charging away from home is mostly unnecessary in this car. Keep it topped up every night and all is well. I’ll charge away from home if it’s cheap or free but I have never needed it. 240 miles is a long way.
I installed a Time-Of-Use Meter on my entire house and I charge our electric cars after 8pm. It costs 1/5 the amount per hr as the lowest tier on a basic utility rate plan. By switching to a TOU on the house, with two electric cars charging on it our electric bill dropped 35% from when we had a tiered system. If your home isn't consuming a great deal of power between 1-5pm, then this is a good move.
240 miles isnt a very long round trip :) well for a weekend trip but daily commuting thats plenty
I’d really like to buy a Bolt but i live in Texas and have family spread out over 300+ miles away, that’s the main thing that’s scaring me from getting one in a few years. Also the chargers seem to be spare compared to Tesla’s.
I like to think of charging stations as a public restroom. They're not free chairs for you to sit down and enjoy your time. You sit down, do your thing and get out.
Sean Place I like to park my pickup truck on front of electric car chargers.
Dave Delecto I really hope you’re kidding
@@davedelecto4148 Watch out folks, we got a real badass here.
@@gwpeoples lmao
@@davedelecto4148 as long as it’s a green vehicle 🤷♂️
2016 volt owner here: Regarding the phone call while navigating, if you leave the phone plugged in to the usb while using android auto/carplay, and answer on the steering wheel, the call info will come up above the map on a small header bar, and you can continue to use navigation. Alternatively, you can set the display under the speedo to navigation info, and it will remain. The key is to answer the call on the steering wheel. No idea why, but there it is. :)
Wow that's ridiculous! Thanks
@@TheStraightPipes This is by design, there are few head units that support the new wireless Carplay / AA.
My 2017 Bolt EV in android auto works fine when on calls. I just hit the nav button and my nav screen come on and my phone display is under my speedometer. Not sure why your car doesn’t work.
@@gnarlyparts How long have you had your volt? Any problems? How is the wind noise on the highway?
Tareek Anson I have a Bolt EV. Wind noise is almost nonexistent. Very quiet car. I only had three recalls done and a shifter problem that the dealer dealt with in two days. Besides those it’s been great. 1 year and 32,000 kms so far. I bought a model 3 recently as well. So far Bolt is not for sale.
Always charge at home. Install a 7kw home charger. I did as it doesn’t take too long at all. Yes only charge to 80% at rapids. No point in staying for way too long for that extra bit of charge. As long as you have enough range to get to your destination that’s all that matters.
This is the key, and one of the biggest reasons full electrics aren't viable for everyone. You're almost required to install a 240V (Level 2) charger in your home garage to make full use of a car like the Bolt EV. BUT: If you are able to get a 240V charger installed in your garage at home, and if you can change your electric plan so that nighttime power costs less than daytime power to encourage overnight charging (most electrical utilities offer a plan like this), you're in the sweet spot, you're saving a lot of money, and your car is always ready for maximum range.
Exactly!
@@TheStraightPipes Just buy a 69 Charger with a 440, leaves more room for the EVs, ultimate in electric car etiquette
True
For the long term health of your battery, it's best to just charge up to 80% daily, only charge to 100% if you are doing a long road trip that requires it.
BTW when are you guys doing a video on the Tesla Model 3? Really looking forward to that.
*_I'm a retired actor living in Los Angeles. Got a dark blue Chevy Bolt in May 2017. I love it. Big fun to drive. Makes me feel 17 again. You guys have nice chemistry. It makes me smile. Be well. Ted_*
Thanks. Ted.
Just bought one of these, in the same color even.. Love it, love it, love it. Already had an ‘18 Volt that is primarily my wife’s car. Spot-on review. The seating is a bit minivan-ish, but Im able to overlook it. I sold a most-excellent ‘18 Civic Si and bought the Bolt. No regrets.
I own a 2017 Chevy Bolt. This review is perfect and on point, best I've seen. With the federal tax credit, state incentive, dealer discount/negotiation, I got mine down to a pretax amount of $23500. What a steal and I love this car.
That is an insane deal! Congrats!
Crazy deal when did you buy. What state do you live in and what trim level did you get. Is it the premier???
I didn't get the Premier, just the LT with comfort package and driver confidence 1 package in Washington State back when it had no sales tax (up to 32000) EV incentive.
Here's the breakdown, 39295 MSRP - 7500 fed tax credit - 5000 negotiation - 3335.39 state tax incentive = $23460 in King County (10.3%). Bear in mind this was back when supply was high and demand was low. These cars were sitting on dealers lot and GM made almost zero effort on advertisement.
I could have saved another 1000 later that year with more dealer discounts, but oh well.
@@puregsr not buying one of these - happy with my Colorado - but I appreciate the price breakdown!
$7500 is based on tax liability. If you don't owe money to the government you're out of luck. To be clear its not a check its a deduction.
Definitely don’t hog the chargers! If you’re at 80%, please move your car. With more and more people buying electric cars, the availability of the chargers is becoming more of an issue. Be considerate of other EV drivers. Also, if you don’t drive an electric car, don’t be that guy that parks his BMW 320i in the charging station spot. Not cool!
Yes, thank you! You have no idea how many times I've seen people park their non-EVs on the parking garage floor dedicated to EVs at my workplace. That just makes you a Grade A douchebag.
I’m going to spread the word of not being an electric car asshole. I have the outlet. I’ll help you guys out.
As much as I agree with you guys, there should be a governmental incentives for building a network of chargers, so it’s not even an issue. When driving around electric car in Norway (Oslo), which has the highest amount of electric vehicles per capita in the world, that’s has never been an issue, given the infrastructure. Talking about a non-electric car parked at the charging station? Wow, not even once I’ve seen it. Are you sure it wasn’t a plug-in hybrid? If not, what a douchebag...
@@saperman1 I'm actually hoping that we adopt an infrastructure like that in the US. But I can assure you that they definitely are not plug-in hybrids. The usual culprits are a Dodge Durango, Chevy Blazer, and a Fiat 124 Spider.
Agreed. 80% and unplug - Jakub
Great review. FYI there is an accessory mode. Press and hold the Start button for 10 seconds but do not touch the brake. You are now good to listen to the radio / wifi / etc for the next 2 hours :-)
Thank you I love you
Thanks. I've got a 2017 Bolt EV and I didn't know this.
That's the same method for all push button ignitions. Gas or electric.
EV owner here; Yuri was right about the etiquette. If you aren't able to charge on a level 2 at home because you live in an apartment or something then charge to 80% on a Level 3 DCFC and do the rest on a Level 1 at home. It's more time-efficient that way. The odds of you needing that last 20% charge are pretty low in daily use and even on a road trip you should have multiple DCFC spots en route to pick up a charge somewhere if you need it.
Most people, if they have a house and not an apartment, would be well advised to spend the extra grand and get a Level 2 installed on their house. Just consider that extra thousand as part of the initial cost of buying a car. The nice thing about a Level 2 though is that you only have to buy it for your first EV, then it's just another appliance in your home and every future EV will be compatible with it.
Once you have your own Level 2 the whole philosophy changes from a gas-station idea where you need to go somewhere to fill up every-so-often to something more like you cell phone. You charge over night when you need to, and ranges are good enough now that charging to 100% is rarely needed every day. Most people I know with long range EV's like the Bolt or Model 3 only charge on Level 2 once a week or so unless they're going on a road trip. Charge time becomes irrelevant too once you have your own L2 because it'll charge while you're asleep and you can basically start every day with a full 'tank' if you want to. The only time it takes you as an owner is the 10 seconds required to plug it in when you get home and unplug it in the morning or whenever you leave, just like your smartphone.
What would you think if your current car could magically fill up every night while you sleep for pennies? That's what owning an EV with your own L2 is like.
Agree Mike B, but people will 100 percent charge publicly because they're inconsiderate, narcissistic pondscum that don't care about anyone else. I experience it here in Phoenix constantly
I’m curious (as someone who has never owned an EV), how much of an impact does this have on your monthly electric bill?
OutKast our two EV’s add about fifteen bucks to our monthly hydro bill.
Yup, gotta be smokin' a little hydro to stone out big enough to buy one of those EV cars.
The bolt charges up to 32amp in AC current. Assuming your electricity supplier is garbage and
gives you a low voltage of 228V of 240V (± 5% of variation allowed) you get a power of 7.3kW
that in 7 hours it would provide 51KW / h that would be equivalent to 85% of the Bolt's battery.
Yuri Right on with the charging scenario. It is so annoying when you can see the car is charged and it is still plugged in. This is going to be an issue. You would not leave the gas pump hose in your car all day.
Except a gas pump would take 3 minutes max to fill up so there's no reason to leave the car there, but in this Bolt case, you're expected to sit there for 9 hours to get a full charge.
It won't be an issue because as soon as a lot of people start doing it, tim hortons will just have you towed. They dont want you there for 9 hours either lol.
@@RyguyCC thus providing more of a reason to not to buy these cars.
Just leave when you get 80%
This is like the people who go in to the gas station to take a long dump, do all their shopping for the week, have lunch or whatever and leave their car at the pump forever.
I actually bought my Bolt having never driven an electric vehicle other than a Volt. I planned to charge it at home all the time, but I have ended up charging using public Level 2 charging a lot. In my area I have never seen another car at a charger, but my biggest gripe so far is non electric cars blocking chargers. This is the biggest Etiquette thing is not to EVER park at a charger unless you charge.
raise their wiper
@@myphonyaccount park them in and plug in
box them in and plug in!
Tow them. I’ve had to sit there and wait for a Tesla owner to finish their shopping. The charge wasn’t even Tesla compatible. In my experience it’s Tesla owners that are the biggest offenders.
@BKD Vickers needs to be actively charging. Not just EV
They don't advertise the one pedal driving very well. I had no clue until you guys mentioned it.
I'd choose the Bolt over the BMW. Good discussion about charging etiquette.
"Yeah, whatever." These dudes are like an old couple. Good stuff.
I know right? Get it on already.
You guys are actually the best car review channel on youtube! Great chemistry, great humor, and great cars! Keep it up
Some would say cringeworthingly happy and overly positive. They are good reviewers though
They would be even better with me 😁
+1, Best car review channel, not just on RUclips. You're better than new Top Gear.
Actually they are one of the worst.
@@MysticMaven why do you think that?
I've had my 2019 Bolt for just over a month and have about 925 miles on it. So far, I really love it, especially the aggressive regen braking: I rarely use the brake pedal and am more concerned about the brake rotors rusting than wearing out the brakes - which I will never do at this rate!
The rear tail lights are supposed to be "lightning bolts." I think they came out of the GM Korea design team, but definitely cool.
Model 3 owner. I use a level 1 charger at home every night because my daily commute is about 15 miles. There's a level 2 near me for the occasions that I get away or do some heavier driving. Supercharging on trips. Typically don't charge fully on the fast charge because why bother since it's so slow at that point. And I'll charge on level 2 until about 80-85% when I use those. Tesla has a cap at 90% charge for daily use unless you're on a trip to keep the battery healthy.
Part of the joy is installing a level 2 charger at home.
Good to know!
Dang! Never thought I’d love an electric car!!!!! But wow I’m sold!!!! Thanks guys!
You had low standards if this video sold you on an electric car. Almost any car should satisfy you.
Robertas S. I’ve driven in Tesla’s, leafs and Prius’s. This one actually looks fun and something you could walk outside and be happy to drive.
*_I got my Bolt in May of 2017. Best car buying decision I ever made. I love my Bolt!_*
I just bought a Bolt, and would like to thank you all for providing such a detailed and useful review - it really aided me in my decision making process. I remembered the on/off effect of the regen paddle you mentioned, and decided I would try a solution to this. I feather the accelerator in concert with the regen paddle to provide a nice, smooth stopping technique. I like this instead of using the one-pedal-driving option, because I can coast when I want to, and not have to always press the go pedal at whatever amount is needed. Many of your other comments were very helpful - I hope mine might benefit someone out there.
Did you mention the passing capabilities. I remember the ICE cars, they take F-O-R-E-V-E-R to pass. This car --> instant reaction - with authority. I always smile.
My mom's Mustang GT was pretty good for passing. :)
Depends on the car. The 300 hp ice car does just fine.
You remember slow cars. Not just slow cars, but cars that are slow on purpose. My regular old Chevy Sonic passed just fine, my barely faster GTI passes about as well as possible without getting me speeding tickets.
I don't have to speculate on which one I'd take, I just bought a 2019 Bolt last weekend.
Speaking of electric charging etiquette, some Chargepoint stations near me have a waitlist, where the first few hours are free (2-4) depending on people waiting, and if anyone goes over then they are charged per hour over the free hours. But yes, leaving your car plugged in for hours is not the best idea, especially if you can fast charge by paying.
Are you guys the real life Terrance and Philip?
That's hilarious
Best comment I've seen this month. Well done!
Heads not flappy enough.
I legitimately hope Matt and Trey catch wind of this comment and parody them in the show now.
glad you say that you love the car. This car has gotten so much negative reveiuews. This car is excellent
I agree. Its a great car. One if best cars chevys ever made
I own a 2018 Bolt Premier and love everything about it!
The 0 to whatever charging time is kind of a red herring. We bought a Bolt and eventually got a Level 2 for the house... but we kind of didn't need to. We drive like 20-30 miles a day normally, and for that the level 1 tops it back up over night no problem. If we did more miles, then it might take a few days to get topped up again, but we were still putting in enough to cover the commute each night. Now that we have a level 2 we charge like once a week, or whenever we get down below 50% or so, and that finishes in a few hours. The only reason to consider level 3 is if you're roadtripping. Then you have to play the 0-80% game. But, like, we still have a gas vehicle too, so, like, take that?
The mileage calculation reset thing is annoying, though. And the app is crap.
If you drive your car so little consider never bringing it above 80%. Your batteries will last longer.
There's actually an option called "hilltop reserve" that I use that stops the charging at 90% so you have room to regen if the early part of your commute is downhill.
On the 19's there is a new option to set the charge level to anything you want. Hilltop is gone.
Jeff's is the best comment on this video. Don't just assume you need a Level 2 charger because of the bigger battery and longer range and you hear that scary 60 hours for a full charge on Level 1. Paradoxically the bigger battery could allow you to live with Level 1 charging by giving you more buffer. As Jeff says, if you are driving fewer miles than the car charges each day, then it will naturally gravitate to a full charge. If it takes a few extra days to get there it doesn't matter. Once it's full it maintains easily. If you go over what it can charge in one day it'll take a day or two to get back to full, but it will naturally with little worry.
Realistically you can plan on getting 3 miles (5 km) per hour with Level 1 charging.
As an example, using Level 1 charging only, if you charge 14 hours per day on average that's about 300 miles a week, which will easily handle 30 miles per day commuting (150 miles) with 150 miles left over for running around. (300 miles a week is just on the high side of average in the US.)
And this is just home charging, if you have an exceptional need you can always supplement with public chargers.
If you need more miles on average then you may indeed need Level 2 charging, which charges at about 25 miles (40 km) per hour.
Once you take the EV plunge you'll find that you worry a lot less about EV range and charging than you did before you got the EV. :) That's mostly because it just stays full and you only even pay attention when you're going somewhere near the range limit, which is rare, and then you plan a bit.
What TTmore said and we fall in your more than average need. My plan is to keep below 80% SOC as much as possible for long term care of the battery pack and to delay charging to the hours before leaving for work. L2 at home makes that much easier.
With a 60-mile RT I'm setting the SOC to 70% and coming home with 35-40% SOC with temps in the mid to low 40's. As temps drop I'll have to go to 80% or more.
Tonight I came home around 35% SOC, needed to go back out and L2 charged to 43%. Made another 30-mile trip taking me back down to 26% SOC. Car is set to immediate charge to 40% and I'll finish the charge to 70% in time for work the next morning.
This is soooo Canadian, especially the argument about charging. Brilliant guys!!!!
Yes, totally agree about charging etiquette, especially given the limited amount of access. Charge to 80% and then move along. Or put a level 3 in your home.
Love my 2017. Best car I’ve ever owned. Although not the best I’ve ever driven... I’m more of a big V8 kinda guy. But for daily living, you can’t beat it.
You can't straight pipe it .
@@rkshn depend how you make those electric
Silent sends are ridiculous. It takes a while for your brain to figure out how to process it. It's totally nuts and I highly recommend it.
Not with that attitude
With the money you save on gas, repairs and maintenance... you can have a welder put some straight pipes on it.
Oh Yeah? Hold my beer!
I bought 2 Bolt premieres this year one for and me and the other for the wife. We both love it so much that our Infiniti QX80 has been gathering dust for 2 months now. We haven't bought any gasoline for that length of time. It gets way over 400km in the summer but down to about 300km now that it's 4C with the heat/AC on auto. We use to obsess about the telemetry about the consumption but after a couple of months we stopped caring and just drive it normally. The car gets so much range anyway we just charge it back to full when we get home. Great review keep up the good work!
theyre terrible though... go drive a mid range tesla 3 and youll kick yourself
@@shanekirkpatrick1513 can you get a Tesla for under $160 a month?
Bammm! Win for the Bolt... & It's got a hatch!
I agree. I've had my Bolt for 18 months now and I still think it's the best EV available today in Canada. One thing I can add is that I haven't had any issues with the car in 18 months to speak of. This is huge as EVs are still pretty new and if you buy, you're kind of an early adopter.
The Bolt is a great car. Thanks for the review!👍
Chris Farrer is it reliable
Charging etiquette for me is never to go anywhere where you'll need a full top off. Always charge at home, and just charge while shopping then scoot on out. Never use public charging for a full top off. Plan trips ahead of time.
Just bought a used 2017 a few days ago! Love it so far. Leaving a comment since your video helped so much in my decision.
I own one for 8mths now and it's the best car I've ever owned (and I've had new cars every 3yrs for the past 21yrs). Will never ever own a gas car again. Highlights.1. Equivalent to you getting 3000+km to a tank of gas. 2. Instant torque at any speed. 3. No maintenance. 4. Never wait to fill up gas and never wait to fill up electricity either...that happens at night when I'm sleeping and I leave every morning with a full tank of electricity. Imagine you leaving every morning with a full tank of gas filled right to the brim. 5. Every time I let my foot off the throttle and/or hit the brakes and/or hit even the the smallest decline in the road it creates new fuel out of thin air and pumps it back into the tank for free using the regen system. 6. Instant heat on cold days...no waiting 5-10min an engine to warm up. Heat in about 20 seconds. 7. It's "cheaper" than new mid trim Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla. When you count all the beans from no maintenance and fuel savings this car becomes cheaper after about 5yrs/100,000km...then it's all free gravy money in the pocket. Cost up front more...Cost of "ownership" less!!
Exactly right. However, EVs won't work for every driver... If you do 300km a day or something like that, no EV on the market will work well for you (even the Bolt's impressive range drops by about half in -20 weather). But for those who do the kind of driving and can install a home charger (bonus points if you run your house off solar), cars like the Bolt, Niro EV and new Leaf are IT.
Perfect description of the benefits!! EV's are fantastic if you drive less than maximum miles per day.
You guys finally nailed the intro music timing! Love it, please keep it this way!
One of your best. High energy but not too over-the-top, engaging, informative, and balanced. Keep it up!
I'd like to see them over the top
RIP to the BMW i3, 2019 and it still gets only 150 mi range. I just bought a Bolt EV and I do think it stands as the best value electric car this year. Maybe teslas are better, but they're just waayy more. Dealers are selling Bolts way under MSRP.
You can get Bolts on the used market today for under $20k. Their reliability and longevity are proving out very nicely, so this is an absolute steal. I give General Motors enormous credit for manufacturing the Bolt so early (October 2016!) because it means Bolts have become the first compelling all-electric car widely available, lightly used, for so little money. I cannot reasonably afford a Tesla, as much as I'd prefer one, so my first all-electric car might be a Chevy Bolt.
Thanks. This is the best Bolt EV review video I've seen yet, pointing out the pros and cons without being biased.
I agree; as more EVs are on the road, EV charging etiquitte will become a huge issue - unless there is a huge increase in charging infrastructure from where it is now.
I look forward to a Kona EV review comparison soon.
Keep up the good work!
I loved your review. You guys give the bolt some love. I like tesla too but am sick of the bolt bashing from tesla people.
Bolt has a hatch
@@robertpryor7225 i know that I love the bolt and like hatchbacks
My mom has one of these. It's awesome. They got a lot of tax write-offs so it was pretty cheap too. They installed a fast charger into the garage and it only takes a few hours to fully charge.
Scott Paulson I am very confused by the "logic" that leads to the conclusion that if I avail myself of a tax credit then someone else is "paying" for it. I'm sure Exxon-Mobile takes advantage of every cent of corporate welfare and employs an army of tax attorneys to do so. I'm also sure Fox News does the same, which I assume is where you first heard this crap. If you don't owe taxes, you don't need the credit. You're only paying for my credit if you intended to take my income.
Scott Paulson Nonsense. The Federal credit is just that, a credit. As for the state level, are you assuming that people buying these cars do not pay taxes? That is the only way that you are supposedly paying for their car. People buying these cars pay taxes, they're simy getting some of that back. If these cars were moving off of lots by the hundreds of thousands, or buyers were non-taxpayers, you might have a point.
@TheStraightPipes What's that in Canadian? HAHAHAHA That wasn't a pointless rant at all, in fact, that's super insightful for those of us considering electric but not considering all the facts. Towards the end of the vid, you both are really identifying the inevitable real world problems people are going to encounter with their electric car, especially as more and more electric cars hit the road and it stops having an exclusivity factor. This is a problem the consumer is going to face and one that the industry is going to face as well. We have to be prepared for the inevitable conclusion that all of our problems will not be solved with electric, they will simply shift. Some for the good, some for not. Thank you!
Charging companies will simply move to the same method that Tesla uses. If you hog a charger, you pay by the minute. A smart owner won't generally charge over 80% anyway, it can reduce battery life.
In a few years there will be as many charge points as there were parking meters.
I suspect that its going to be less of a issue than you think.
Ranges are going up and inevitably employers will install charging stations at jobsites as a employee benefit. We also will have electronic options to discourage charger hogs, for example after the charger shuts down you have x amount if time to pull out of the spot before a tow truck is summoned. Im more worried about the grid not being up to a sudden surge in demand.
@@mrspeigle1
I'm not sure tow trucks will be required.
Once the cash comes straight out of your account as you're cc bathed for the overstay, it will get very old, very fast. There's nothing like an unavoidable fine to motivate the selfish or lazy.
@@rogerstarkey5390 there is a bit of a blood from a turnip Factor here though, once the payment account is bottomed out additional charges are meaningless.
@@mrspeigle1
Ah! I was assuming the money was there to charge.
Actually it just puts the account into the red and the bank takes over, overdraft due as well!
Man, I just discovered you guys. I really enjoy watching you, I can actually feel your excitement. That is good. I also trust your evaluations. Great job!!!!
Thanks! We’ll let you guys know when we’re not trust worthy anymore 😜
Always great to watch a video with enthusiastic car drivers !
EV etiquette, pay when required. You have to pay for petrol, expecting free charging is doing us EV owners a dis-service. Have a L2 charger installed at home for my Ioniq, works a treat.
Electric send! Re the regen paddle not having a range of modulation, there is a workaround. Hold the paddle and modulate deceleration through the accelerator pedal. Feather the pedal to adjust regen braking.
I find the regen paddle extremely useful, even though it is digital. I simply modulate it's use anywhere from a tap or repeated taps to full on engagement. Love it!
just bought a Bolt EV Premier and love it!
Thanks for the video. I am considering a Bolt and this video has been very informative. I appreciate the electric charging etiquette lesson. Looking at getting a level 2 charger at my house if I decide to go with the Bolt.
You guys honestly have some of the most useful and to the point reviews, keep up the good work!❤️
Proper etiquette for me is to always move your vehicle when the charge is complete. It would be kind of you to avoid slower charging rates (80%+) if not necessary, but sometimes it would be. Either way, not sure we can make all humans nice and polite.
Chevy's been doing really well
Bolt-wise
I got mine in this color. Thanks for the review! It helped me make my decision.
Btw the Shock color does get a lot of attention. :)
Okay so just don't bother charging beyond 80% unless you absolutely need the range. It's not good for the battery.
tapers to medium speed at 55% anyway.
I just got the 2019 premium white version. LOVE IT
This was the video that got me to really want a Bolt EV and in the Shock color too. I got my Bolt EV LT a day before my birthday on May 25, 2019. I have not been to a gas pump since. I watched this video about a few dozen times since i saw your posting in October 18. Thanks for the early review and Shock gets all my employees worried when they see me coming into work expectantly on holidays. :-)
Guys, awesome job, AS USUAL!
You know I was actually here for a review on the Bolt. BUT, I have to agree that your short rant about electric car etiquette is refreshing!
Maybe that's not part of your review model for StraightPipes, but how about a special episode (and maybe a joint venture with TFL and Alex On Autos) to cover specifically Electric Car Etiquette.
Both of your arguments were VERY constructive and I feel many upcoming new EV owners should care about.
Joint venture, make it happen!
Sure it will take 60hrs at level one but when the average daily drive is 30-40miles, if you just plug it in every day at home on level one, you'll always be "up" over the space of a week assuming everyone leaves the car alone whilst asleep and around 2-3 hours either side.
So if we say the car will be plugged in for 70+ hours a week and it only takes 60 to fully charge it I think generally it will even out and that is assuming you do 30-40miles per day including weekends which not everyone goes out of a weekend/every day.
As such I think their level 1 is an absolutely baller of an idea; like most of the things in this car. They really pushed the boat on on this and it's still after a few years of production up at the top of the table.
I'm just pissed us in the UK didn't get this with a Vauxhall badge, grrr
I would have bought one damn it!
60 hours? A day and a half from 0. It's slow but level two is about 9 hours.
At home I leave my bolt plugged in all the time. I use the level one charger it came with. In two and a quarter years of ownership I have yet to need any other charging.
DJ Jakub (at the 01:00 videomark) is the dopest Canadian hip-hop artist since......Snow?
Dandruf--I mean Snow!?.... EEEEEnFarmeer!
#1 Bryan LaCroix
By far, the most fun I've had watching a car review.
Nice video guys. 👍 I started my move to electric with a 2012 Leaf. My wife and I now have two Bolt EVs (One is a 2017 LT, which we are leasing & that other is a 2019, which we purchased at the end of March). FWIW, we both enjoy and prefer the higher driving position. Re the handling, it's plenty good enough for us, but I have heard that folks who switched out the tires for more traditional sport tires have been very pleased with the result. Re: the charging educate, I strongly agree with Yuri. One thing that we do that was not mentioned is used hilltop reserve with the 2017 and an 85% charging limit (its selectable in the 2019) with the 2019 for regular communing and errands and short to medium, under 150 miles trips. This let's it charge as quickly as possible and gives full regenerative braking virtually all of the time. Once you get used to one-pedal driving, even a short period of time without having regenerative braking makes the car feel like it's a runaway freight train. We really like our Bolt EVS and feel that they are a very strong value. Still, no car is perfect and I have a few quibbles about the Bolt. The seats and the ride are more comfortable in my old Leaf, the ride Bolt in the EV is firm and sporty but a bit more bouncy, with its shorter wheelbase, than I'd prefer. Supposedlym Chevrolet did some suspension tuning to mellow the ride between the 2017 and the 2019 models. The difference is very subtle. The boot in the Leaf was bigger and the Bolt is also a bit narrower, which when you ever have to squeeze three in the back, those passengers wiĺl notice. The interior also feels a bit more plastic and cheaper than the Leaf. Finally, I would say that my local Nissan dealer was far more excited to sell / lease our Leaf to us then my local Chevrolet dealer, who shows much less interest in seeing the model be a success. The Nissan dealer has two free level 2 Chargers, plus one in back in the service department. They do a good job of making the two near the front available for their customers anytime and they do not keep it locked up at night. In contrast, the local Chevrolet dealer has 1 or possibly two level twos, neither of which they make any effort to make available after hours and or encourage people to use them during business hours. They're hidden towards the back in and by the service department. They also have a level 3 charger that is half speed (25 kw max) that Chevrolet provided them and that they have never hooked up or made available, even just to verify that the level 3 charger works. This annoys me to no end. I do know at least one other Chevrolet dealer that is in a smaller community on the coast that makes their one level 2 and a similar powered level 3 charger available to the public, even after hours and that dealership isn't even certified to sell Chevrolet bolt EVs. The cars represent such a phenomenal value at the moment that I got them despite the lack of enthusiastic dealer support. Obviously you're mileage may vary with your local dealer and hopefully it does for the better. Take care and charge on.
PS. I heard the term straight pipes from my roommate when I was in grad school who was an exchange student from Sweden. If I recall correctly, it seemed to be something along the lines of go for it. Wonder if that's the same rough definition that caused your show to be named as such.
100% Leather-wrapped (heated) steering-wheel ftw!
Subbed. First car review that actually talks about a formidable car in formidable way. Most people hate GM and think BMWi is a better car.
they also think iPhones are superior to samsung.
Yuri, you looked like you did this car review in pain. You guys are so relatable, that it’s easy to tell if you’re not really in to a car.
I need to rewatch this. I feel like I had a good time in it. Maybe I was tired that day 🤷🏼♂️
TheStraightPipes I’m sure it’s tough coming off some of the amazing cars you guys have been doing and then getting in a Bolt! All kidding aside, I love what you guys do and I was thinking Yuri just needs a pick-me-up! Keep up the great work! Pass on to Jakub that we think he’s great, too!
Jakub's disappointed face @10:58 kills me every time
My son has a 2019 , nice feel car , my problem ground clearance in our environment a problem and front wheel wells filling up with snow . we shall see how many miles we get on a charge at 40 degrees below
I'd take a Bolt. In fact, I did.
2019 Kinetic Blue Bolt premiere with all options. First EV and so much fun. Took 53 years to get one but I couldn't imagine buying anything else currently, not even a Model 3. The hatch in this car (which the Model 3 does NOT have) makes all the difference along with the price.
sleeping is possible in a model S, but not a model 3.
You guys are full on awesome just for being so proactive in the way you're viewing and reviewing electric cars. Electric charging etiquette? I haven't seen this mentioned with enough seriousness anywhere else! Basically, it's still not in people's lives as much yet for enough people to care but that doesn't mean it's not potentially a HUGE problem with the electric car world in general. And I think you guys rock for having the attention to detail to be able to point that out and make this whole comments section about it. HUGE APPRECIATION from this Transportation Design Student for thinking things through with enough empathy and concern for users.
I agree 100% with it being poor etiquette to use a Level 2 free charger in that way. I also obviously empathize with it being unavoidable for now from a practical standpoint, but this is a concern that ought to be addressed by manufacturers and cities together from a more holistic and systemic perspective.
This is one of the best looking electric cars and I LOVE this color! It has an acceptable range which for my husband he has an hour commute each way so this would actually work for us.
Great review
It’s a shame that the Bolt ( Vauxhall Ampera, full EV) is not for release in the UK, it would of beaten the original Leaf.
Must say though I love my Hyundai Ioniq EV
WOW - electric charging etiquette discussion FTW!!!
Yuri is absolutely right about the etiquette and I hope society finds a way to make this work
Nicholas Lohr - Of course 'society can find a way'. All they gotta do is place the charging posts on the parking spots furthest away from the building's entrance and NOBODY will fight over them. Problem solved!
You guys are great. About charging, just do it each night at home for regular driving.
I liked the charging fairness discussion was good.
The Bolt is a good second car when your first car is a truck. You can use this for the commute to work and your truck for everything else.
Classic American. In Italy this can do it all
@@alessandro-on9zz well Italy is a smaller country. I live in Southern Indiana and if I wanna go to Kansas, I'm going to take a car that I can fill up at a gas station like my Jetta TDI. This car is great for going to work. You're not spending tons on gas nor is there as much need for maintenance. Electric cars have their jobs but they're not ready to take over for petroleum powered vehicles yet
Great review thanks for sharing
You convinced me, I'm picking up my 2020 Bolt EV LT with options, colour Romulan Ale. Better HD rear camera. 10% better range or there about. 150% Winter DCFC no more stepped charging. Tried the Kona and Ioniq Bolt seat is better. Only thing missing is active cruise.
I’ve never driven the i3, but I’ve driven the bolt and it’s so fun! I would definitely daily drive the bolt if I could.
Would be better if it was rwd.
Great review. I think Tesla had a great idea to charge people extra if they are using the charging spot while the car is "full". Also agree with others about installing a home level 2 charger. If you buy an electric it's best to have level 2 at home.
I agree, isn't that a new thing started this year? I think it's a GREAT idea to combat bad etiquette and keep things moving.
What you wrote in your post is 100% spot on. Move your vehicle when it's charged and level 2 chargers at home have come down dramatically in price. I have had a level 2 charger for over 4 years and you really need one if you have an electric vehicle. The level 1 charger, a 110 volt charger, is just if there is no other alternative. The level 1 charger is just too slow.
2018 Bolt EV premier owner my personal list: Panoramic moon roof "kia soul" A/C in the seats plus all the stuff you guys mentioned. Love this review!
Cost of ev bolt in India is it available in India ?
My best take away from this video was the fact that charging is based on time at the charger, not the amount of current used. Very interesting, I never knew that was the case, and I've watched a bunch of EV videos. Unless I've missed it, I've never heard it mentioned before, this was new info to me. Thanks for pointing that out.
My i3 shows charge completion times on the dash when you plug it in? It’s on the smaller screen. It’s easy to miss though.
Fiat too
The ONLY reason i would not buy this car is because it looks like a mini minivan. If they took this electric powertrain, gauges and this infotainment system and stuck it in something that looked sleeker around the same price, Chevy would have a hit!
Hopefully these companies take their tested electric battery packs,motors and powertrains from these ugly cars and then put them in various new bodys that look better now that they know they work.
JaguarRVP yea if they made it look similar to an a3 saloon i would buy
Chevys are ugly
Agreed - and have a dual motor AWD option.
@@AnnualLotus Your mother is ugly but atleast your father found her somewhat attractive.
I put 5 k on my 2021 Bolt
Keep it under 60, with a light foot, and don't blast the heater or AC and you get 300 miles per charge.
Stomp on the pedal and blast the AC or heater and you will get 200 miles per charge.
Its fast, smooth and a blast to drive by gas staions
As electric car diver . When your at level 3 charger you reach 80% move on. All about moving the car out of the way once you have enough charge . Doesn't have be full charge. Do not stay connected your only holding every one else up. Install level 2 charger at home if your not in EU and don't have 240v as standard . Actually still install 7kw charger. Make life so much easier
Yes
Easier and much, much cheaper. If you can't charge at home overnight you are missing out on a significant part of the benefit of an EV.
Right on with the charging etiquette.
Car is done charging, you need to move it immediately. I don't think it's proper etiquette to charge at a location you're not in but if you have to it's ok as long as you move the car as soon as it's done charging. The worst thing is to have your car in a charging spot not charging.
Agreed. My car wasn't close to done charging - Jakub
Etiquette. I agree to not leave a car at a public free charging station when you are not actually shopping/visiting there. Those spots are for people who go there to shop/visit, not for someone to leave their car for a full charge while they go home or do whatever else.
If you buy one of these spend the money to get a level 2 charger installed at home. If your house already has 240v, it's not very expensive. If not, well....think of it as future proofing your home because electric cars are going to be the future. If you live in an apartment, probably best to get a Volt instead of a Bolt. Some apartments do have charging stations too.
Good review!
i3s for sure. I love the amount of room available upfront, and the drive assist features, and the hacking capabilities.
Co-worker has one and regularly gets more than the rated 238 miles.
same 300 as tesla (if you're super careful)
As long as you're not accelerating hard from a stop, and generally staying at or below 65MPH on the highway you'll be fine. If, somehow, you can avoid highways speeds altogether, you're golden.
Downhill
This has got to be the cutest looking car ever, looks like a car that’s in a cartoon show lol
I have a 2017 base model Bolt. Want everyone to know about the EPA's 238 miles rated range. It's actually on the low side in warm weather! Living on Cape Cod MA, I get almost 300 miles of range in May, June, July and August. I always drive in the "L" re-gen mode which I find adds 5 to10% to what the car tells me it will go. Example: on my most recent full charge, the car showed 283 miles (in the middle range display). Drove it to Boston - a little more than a one hour trip one way - and using the re-gen mode, I got 300 miles range! Wonderful, right? That's the good news.
Now the bad news: in the cold winter months, my range drops to about HALF that.... 140 miles in the coldest weather at a full charge... and that's before using any heat in the car! Turn on the heat, and you immediately lose a large chunk of that limited winter range...down to maybe 115 miles. Ouch! So if we drive 70 miles to Boston for dinner and a concert, we *have* to plug it in up there or we won't make it home. Fortunately, there are a lot of charging options in the city, and if we are there for 4 hours, we have no problem getting the "juice" we need to get back home again.
Once, we parked at the Braintree "T" garage and took the train into town. The beauty of that is that E-V cars park and charge for free in that garage!
I've also found that charging - not parking - is free in some garages in Boston. Notably: the Hyatt Hotel garage (deep down on the 3rd level)near the Opera House, the Christian Science Church garage near Symphony Hall, and the MFA garage across from the Museum.
I love driving my Bolt! Love the fluid feel and the immediate power of this electric car. As the reviewers note, it's pretty roomy inside. However, the worst feature in it must be the seats. Very thin and cheap feeling seats in the base model. Also very narrow for me but your butt may vary. For me, the left side of the driver's seat has a hard plastic rim which cuts into me as I sit down. Ouch, what a bad design! I wish I had upgraded to the premium leather seats every time I sit in this car. Maybe next time I will. I am leasing it for 3 years to keep my options open and see what is available in mid 2020. A lot of new electrics will be coming out in the next year.
Charging it fully....as I always do..... takes about 7 hours at the level 2 charger I use. Luckily for me, it's a free public charger across from where I work, so after a full day, I cross the street and drive away. My Bolt came with the fast charger option but I have never used it since getting my car in August 2017. Actually have never even seen one to try. But that hasn't been a problem so far.
Would I get another Bolt next time? Probably, as I love most of its features. But I will be shopping and comparing before leasing another one.
PS- Great review, guys! Love the back and forth style, sharing opinions. I look forward to more of your reviews in the future! I even learned a couple of things about my car!
I recently got a bolt and I’m happy with it so far.
Love my Bolt! Well done guys
Tesla Model 3- make it happen Yuri and Jakub
you guys wanna review a model 3, you can use mine.
@@apagoogoo Did the service center return it?
Model 3 is nice for sure, but that Tablet in the middle that controls everything? Pray nothing goes wrong.
@@bmw803 That's a common misconception. The tablet does not control driving functions. I can reboot the display while driving, while autopilot is engaged, and absolutely no driving functions are affected.
Sorry, I meant such as open the windows, turn on the heat, AC etc. Everything is controled from the tablet isn;t?
You guys are the best! Very Entertaining!
Awesome review you guys