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The driver's seat height is barely adjustable. There's some block (battery?) under the driver's seat that prevents it from moving up/down. It takes away about 4 inches of room.
Biggest problem with Leaf is that it can only fast charge ONCE per day. Doing a long travel will have you stranded on your second charging point. This is due to not having active cooling on the batteries.
I totally understand Yuri's rage over the infotainment. That infotainment would have been acceptable in 2013, but is utterly ridiculous today. There is no excuse for it. I wouldn't buy this car just so I wouldn't be stuck with a terrible, laggy center screen that will Nissan will inevitably drop support for and stop updating in 4 - 5 years time. Nissan is a huge manufacturer with tons of resources and should be capable of hiring talented software engineers and designers.
Well that's handy because it basically hasn't been updated since 2013 with the exception of apple carplay/auto. There's a reason why this Leaf didn't get a better infotainment system.
The Leaf is a perfect commuter car. It was never designed to be a long distance trip car. As a second car it works just fine. Had mine 7 months and it is a joy to drive. Quite, smooth & plenty quick. My wife’s 2017 Honda Civic seems so noisy in comparison. Use wife’s car for long trips and the Leaf for all daily commutes.
same here. it's perfect for out 60 mile commute. saves us a fortune in fuel. fortune in servicing. fortune in road tax. for what it does it's the perfect car. long journeys we rarely take those. if we do we take my chevy camaro on sunny days or our sons kia
(about infotainment as a thing) 100% support. (about a satellite radio) sadly it's a totally personal thing. Yuri prefers to have a DJ, I love to listen to my music which is totally not available on the radio (Tool, RATM, Pro-Pain, Bloodhound gang, etc). So I want to have a CD player, while a lot of people yell 'who needs a CD in 2018??!'. well.. people who are not a huge fan of discovering that album from your favourite list is no longer available on the Spotify.
Yes, the sun visors do slide back, but they don't slide back enough! There's a good 2 - 3 inch gap left where the sun will hit your eyes depending on how you're positioned. On most cars, the visors will completely cover the top portion of the side window.
First EV I ever drove was a 2012 Leaf. It was surprisingly good to drive, slightly better than a Volt of the same vintage. The smooth continuous acceleration and the silence were the best part.
+TheStraightPipes As long as I have been watching these reviews, and especially for cars I would never buy, they are AMAZING. Also, more angry reviews. Thanks for making my days better.
My 2012 Leaf has the irritating door locks too. There's a way to turn off the auto-locking - I don't remember how, but it's really easy, and it improved my life tremendously.
As an owner of a 2013 Leaf I have to say the shifter knob is the best. It is super easy to use and takes up hardly any space. Also, the rear heated seat controls are on the side of the passenger seat so the rear passengers can reach it. However, when the rear passengers get out without turning the switch off the driver has to contort their body and arm around to turn it off.
Counterpoint on range: 150miles is more than enough for most people, since most people do 2 things: 1) they use their cars as city cars and don't road trip NEARLY as much as they think they do, and 2) being able to start every day with 100% range (since you likely charge it overnight) requires that we re-think the range on these vehicles.
I'm a long-time watcher and absolutely love you guys, but I still stand by my view that prioritizing infotainment in an era of spectacular aftermarket parts is crazy; you could end up writing off an amazing car for a $300-500 head unit replacement. You can't inexpensively upgrade a car's styling, performance or interior size, but you can totally swap out the stereo for one with the features you want for less than $1,000. Get the right vehicle, then upgrade the infotainment! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK FROM A FELLOW (EXPAT) CANUCK! :)
@@TheStraightPipes Good point! I keep forgetting the modern cars (sad that I have to say that with my cars being a 2011 MX-5 and 2013 FR-S... :P). My wife's 2010 Mazda3 has a head unit that can't be replaced even though it's just a standard MP3/Bluetooth CD player. I retract my previous statement. Time for a new perspective! :) BTW: The fact you read all of your comments and even reply to most of them makes you the best car RUclips channel. Thanks for all your hard work!
One pedal driving means using the accelerator pedal only to move and completely stop. The e-pedal switch is to turn on and off this function. When it is on, letting go the accelerator engages the regenerative brake to stop the car. When it is off, the regenerative brake isn't engaged when lifting off the accelerator, and that is why the car keeps cruising in the video. You have to use the second pedal, aka the foot brake pedal, to engage the hydraulic brake AND the regenerative brake to stop the car. The e-pedal switch is not supposed to use as a hand activated brake during driving, and that is why it is inconveniently located on the center console.
I work as a valet, and every new Nissan (~2016+) I’ve driven has the same issue with unlocking the doors in park. You have to hit the unlock button for any of the doors to open, which is very frustrating when we’re busy. Nissans in general frustrate me with their laggy electronics... for instance, it’s nearly 1 full second between pushing the engine stop button and the engine actually shutting off. So much for feeling connected to the car...
@@TheStraightPipes The first Warcraft was epic... Spend hours at our local library getting it to work via Novell network from DOS... Windows 3.11 was just crappy and in the way... But getting 4 player multiplayer working was worth it... My friends and I had a blast! :)
I'm glad you're focusing on the infotainment system. A lot of electric car comparisons just focus on the driving and range and not the infotainment which everyone will have to deal with on a daily basis
Love this video! even on the Nissan website they recommend to use a roads (UK ) over motorways when in a traditional internal combustion engine higher extra urban driving speed mpg goes up :)
I don't know if anyone mentioned it before, but the highest resolution for a DVD is 480p, not 720p as stated by Yuri. Still, another entertaining review.
Adam Jordan I meant that it would only run for electric for so many miles without the gas engine clicking on when you step on the gas. I could be wrong though!
As an owner of one for many months...there are waaay more stupid things about it but yeah, you would have to live with it for weeks to learn them all. BUT you did teach me I can extend the visor - so THANK YOU!
thank you for being so effin' ("we're gonna bleep that out") honest about the stuff you don't like. Tell it like it is- call that shit out to keep the manufacturers honest. DO NOT apologize for that honesty. thanks again, boys!
Rear heated seat button is actually in a smart location. What if your passengers get out and dont turn off, at least the driver can see if they are on and turn off not to waste battery
Should be automatic. All seats have occupancy detectors. No point wasting energy heating an empty seat. Tesla does this. I suspect other brands do too.
The Leaf if the most affordable EV you can buy that goes a bit farther than the local supermarket. The range is "enough" but 300km would be great. The infotainment can be improved for sure (I felt he was too hard on that) but not a deal breaker. The Ioniq for me felt ridiculously cheap inside, but to each their own. The version I'm excited about is the late 2019 Leaf which gets a bigger 60 kWh battery, 300km range, battery cooling and 200hp+.
At the time when I bought my 2018 Leaf (2018 spring) it was the best deal you could actually get. Here in Ontario, you had to wait 12-18 months to get eGolf and hyundai ioniq electric, Tesla 3 was double the price of Leaf SL. By that time the $14,000 Ontario rebate would have been gone. The current government should have kept these rebates, I would not have bought my electric car if I did not have the $14,000 rebate.
I would be asking questions on the Nissan battery pack warranty. Nissan 8 years or 160,000 km. Now, look at a base Tesla 8 years or 240,000 km. Toyota starting in 2020 increased its hybrid battery warranty to 10 years or 240,000 km. Nissan also has you sign a document specifying the conditions of that battery warranty. How the vehicle is charged, left in the cold or in hot can void the warranty. There are a lot of outs in that warranty agreement for Nissan to void your warranty. Nissan also has not adopted any active cooling for its battery pack? The main reason the early Nissan Leaf battery packs that only had a 5-year warranty failed early was a lack of active cooling for the battery pack. Battery packs are very expensive and expensive to instal.
If you live in the city and charge at home, then 150 is plenty. I commute 97 mile round-trip and I never charge past 245 miles in my Tesla Model 3. I always have plenty battery left even after work and errands during the Polar Vortex.
Just a suggestion, we Canadian viewers would love it if you talked more about the as-tested price (I.e. options) of your vehicles a bit more, and recommended configurations ☺️
I want you guys to check out the Chevy Volt.. I think it's the 'today's electric car'. Nowhere near perfect, but I don't have to worry about range anxiety and in my use case, I fill up every 4000-5000+ miles. It's awesome as an in-betweener right now.
Can't wait to see them review the Niro. IMO, it's about on par with the Kona, slightly better looks-wise IMO, and it doesn't have that nearly impossible to access storage area below the seat.
Hei Yuri did you have a cup of coffee before the review. Common man , it ain't that bad but yes I agree it is a bit expensive. BTW, I noted Yuri get angry or upset more often than Jacob.
the top speed of that car for me when it was brand new it topped out at 165 kph now a year latter top speed is 148 or 149 with eco mode and e-pedal turned on I have noticed that when it hits that speed the real time power usage screen shows the power consumption bounces or jitters around 30 KWH per 100 Kilometers it will constantly try increasing then fall back quickly over and over jittering back on fourth while the cars floored for max speed
TheStraightPipes I don't mean on this particular video, I mean showing numbers in different units could generally make your videos more suitable for international viewers from EU, Asia, etc.
I've really been looking forward to this review and it didn't disappoint. The stuff I knew you hate you really hated... The 'nob', the infotainment. You forgot to rant at the piano black :) There's a reason the new Leaf is why it is - which is based on the old Leaf and a lot of the body work and systems have not been updated... And that it is I believe the only 'affordable' electric car which is sold at a (probably quite small) profit. It's possible that the Kona/Niro are now profitable but you have to wait 12 months plus to get one here anyway (UK). So in answer to your question: they just did enough to update it (I love how comfortable it is and the space is great) but only just. The e-plus Leaf will supposedly get active thermal management and 350km range which will make it more sensible for North America.
I have the 2018 LEAF S so I don't rely on the Infotainment screen too much, but it's crap compared to the Model 3 by Tesla. They do need to improve this. As you discovered, you can display your speed digitally on the left, but you have to find it and it's kind of hidden. I discovered this accidentally *after* buying the car, but it was a pleasant surprise. I find the power to be decent, but nothing like the Tesla Model 3. 0-30, this thing will surprise a lot of people. Features I'd get if I were buying new; heat pump, pro pilot assist (for parking assist), LED headlights, overhead camera. The non-LED headlights are terrible. I bought mine used and it had a quick charger option installed (and it's white, the color I wanted), so my particular trim level isn't what I'd normally buy. But, it'll do for a couple years until I can get in to a Tesla or some higher-range and better-appointed EV. The range in the 2018+ LEAF is decent too, at 151 miles. I couldn't consider some EVs with less than that, and couldn't really afford EVs with more just yet....so it's a good balance and there are some nice used specimens out there.
We have a 2018 Chrysler Pacifica PHEV. It’s the only plug in 7 seater available here in Ontario besides the Tesla Model X. It has 50Km of range, and can recharge in 2 hours. Are you planning on reviewing one?
Angry rant was great all you were missing was the lightning coming from your fingertips lol @ jakub missing that one! Also, id fucking love and would pay as an option for matrix display on the dashboard it would make my day everyday
Car looks good, just electric enough to still appear normal. Yuri turned into savagegeese there with his rant. Getting in and out of all these cars already has numbed you both a little - proof the heavy use of "whatever" - but then the annoying bits start to stand out more in ones perception. Anyway great looking video again, even Yuris hair is nice :D
Does it have independent rear suspension? I know its slightly mentioned a lot some may say its even overrated but I'm definetly pushing towards of if I can afford it :)
@@MrConor159 the Mazda 3 is going from an independent back suspension to a torsion beam, because the median weenie buyer wants it quieter and smoother, instead of better for fast corners.
I'm glad you guys keep it real and say what you really think. It sucks that you can't do Tesla reviews because then you'd experience a proper electric send.
Agreed equal range of the Kia enero update the infotainment, improve the quality of cameras, increase the vehicle height with the 60kw, otherwise the car will bottom out on every speed bump. please please add reach and rake on the wheel , add proper water cooling to the battery pack not the hybrid system fitted to the ev2000, and please add the lighter interior colours as an option as not everyone likes dark interiors on all trim levels, please fix the illumination on the break lights right now at night only the bottom half of the break light illuminates is it so hard to add a led so all of it illuminates when breaking
Yes we need more angry reviews. I love when you guys add the special effects to show how you would have designed the car. All cars should have matrix graphics on the dashboard 😆
I'm totally agree with Yuri about infotainment system I rather use CD and cassette player instead of laggy stupid system that didn't worth of the money.
I laughed at the "oops still cluttered tho" and the countless positives angrily explained. The screen does look bad thought. Maybe a third party solution can fix that.
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Nissan Leaf. Did Nissan update enough?
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DVDs at 720p? What? They are 480p at max
Lack of torque, especially after driving a tesla, is very noticeable.
The rear seat head room is really bad in the nissan leaf.
The driver's seat height is barely adjustable. There's some block (battery?) under the driver's seat that prevents it from moving up/down. It takes away about 4 inches of room.
No telescopic steering.
- Only the siths deal in absolute
- no reaction
Jacob's not that old, right??
No reaction from that!?
Well then you are lost!
Bro I have the worst memory ever
TheStraightPipes lol
I've never seen someone so passionate about infotainment systems lmao
Aaron Albert Brian Cooley
Karan Patel Wish Brian was more active.
Tesla has changed what I want in an infotainment system. Just give me a huge high resolution screen for navigation.
@@MiguelRPD Definitely.
I'm diggin ragin Yuri. It's very SITH like. Lol
Biggest problem with Leaf is that it can only fast charge ONCE per day. Doing a long travel will have you stranded on your second charging point.
This is due to not having active cooling on the batteries.
What?! Really??
@@TheStraightPipes Google it :-)
TheStraightPipes is that why I couldn’t fast charge it all those places lol
This is a very big reason for me to not buy a Nissan Leaf.
I'm glad we complained about a bunch of stuff. Would have definitely complained about this more. Thanks for sending!
Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you!
I totally understand Yuri's rage over the infotainment. That infotainment would have been acceptable in 2013, but is utterly ridiculous today. There is no excuse for it. I wouldn't buy this car just so I wouldn't be stuck with a terrible, laggy center screen that will Nissan will inevitably drop support for and stop updating in 4 - 5 years time. Nissan is a huge manufacturer with tons of resources and should be capable of hiring talented software engineers and designers.
Well that's handy because it basically hasn't been updated since 2013 with the exception of apple carplay/auto. There's a reason why this Leaf didn't get a better infotainment system.
"Only the Sith deals with absolute." Lol Yuri dropping some Obi-wan on Jakob.
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u guys make us feel alot better after watching ur videos, thank u and keep it up
The Leaf is a perfect commuter car. It was never designed to be a long distance trip car. As a second car it works just fine. Had mine 7 months and it is a joy to drive. Quite, smooth & plenty quick. My wife’s 2017 Honda Civic seems so noisy in comparison. Use wife’s car for long trips and the Leaf for all daily commutes.
same here. it's perfect for out 60 mile commute. saves us a fortune in fuel. fortune in servicing. fortune in road tax. for what it does it's the perfect car.
long journeys we rarely take those. if we do we take my chevy camaro on sunny days or our sons kia
6:20 to 7:00 100% agree with this rant
(about infotainment as a thing) 100% support.
(about a satellite radio) sadly it's a totally personal thing. Yuri prefers to have a DJ, I love to listen to my music which is totally not available on the radio (Tool, RATM, Pro-Pain, Bloodhound gang, etc). So I want to have a CD player, while a lot of people yell 'who needs a CD in 2018??!'. well.. people who are not a huge fan of discovering that album from your favourite list is no longer available on the Spotify.
@@michalklucz6907 go to Best Buy and get a portable CD player, and plug it in with an aux cable.
@@jeffruebens8355 that's a bad, unpleasant and unpractical solution
Yes, the sun visors do slide back, but they don't slide back enough! There's a good 2 - 3 inch gap left where the sun will hit your eyes depending on how you're positioned. On most cars, the visors will completely cover the top portion of the side window.
First EV I ever drove was a 2012 Leaf. It was surprisingly good to drive, slightly better than a Volt of the same vintage. The smooth continuous acceleration and the silence were the best part.
Great video as always. Thanks to such videos, companies like Nissan will listen and update the antiquated tech in their vehicles.
+TheStraightPipes As long as I have been watching these reviews, and especially for cars I would never buy, they are AMAZING.
Also, more angry reviews.
Thanks for making my days better.
agreed- like that Acura/civic thing they reviewed last week. angry reviews are honest reviews.
My 2012 Leaf has the irritating door locks too. There's a way to turn off the auto-locking - I don't remember how, but it's really easy, and it improved my life tremendously.
As an owner of a 2013 Leaf I have to say the shifter knob is the best. It is super easy to use and takes up hardly any space. Also, the rear heated seat controls are on the side of the passenger seat so the rear passengers can reach it. However, when the rear passengers get out without turning the switch off the driver has to contort their body and arm around to turn it off.
Counterpoint on range: 150miles is more than enough for most people, since most people do 2 things: 1) they use their cars as city cars and don't road trip NEARLY as much as they think they do, and 2) being able to start every day with 100% range (since you likely charge it overnight) requires that we re-think the range on these vehicles.
I'm a long-time watcher and absolutely love you guys, but I still stand by my view that prioritizing infotainment in an era of spectacular aftermarket parts is crazy; you could end up writing off an amazing car for a $300-500 head unit replacement.
You can't inexpensively upgrade a car's styling, performance or interior size, but you can totally swap out the stereo for one with the features you want for less than $1,000. Get the right vehicle, then upgrade the infotainment!
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK FROM A FELLOW (EXPAT) CANUCK! :)
You can't swap out most modern infotainments. They control all aspects of the car (radio, climate, settings, gauges, traction, power, etc)
@@TheStraightPipes Good point! I keep forgetting the modern cars (sad that I have to say that with my cars being a 2011 MX-5 and 2013 FR-S... :P). My wife's 2010 Mazda3 has a head unit that can't be replaced even though it's just a standard MP3/Bluetooth CD player.
I retract my previous statement. Time for a new perspective! :)
BTW: The fact you read all of your comments and even reply to most of them makes you the best car RUclips channel. Thanks for all your hard work!
One pedal driving means using the accelerator pedal only to move and completely stop. The e-pedal switch is to turn on and off this function. When it is on, letting go the accelerator engages the regenerative brake to stop the car. When it is off, the regenerative brake isn't engaged when lifting off the accelerator, and that is why the car keeps cruising in the video. You have to use the second pedal, aka the foot brake pedal, to engage the hydraulic brake AND the regenerative brake to stop the car. The e-pedal switch is not supposed to use as a hand activated brake during driving, and that is why it is inconveniently located on the center console.
As a new leaf owner in 2021 you can find this car at great value! Home charging is dope! There are new updates to the car for sure
I work as a valet, and every new Nissan (~2016+) I’ve driven has the same issue with unlocking the doors in park. You have to hit the unlock button for any of the doors to open, which is very frustrating when we’re busy. Nissans in general frustrate me with their laggy electronics... for instance, it’s nearly 1 full second between pushing the engine stop button and the engine actually shutting off. So much for feeling connected to the car...
DVD's are 480p. Fricken millenials... :D
Bro I had a Pentium 386
Nerd alert
@@TheStraightPipes First Pentiums are from 1993... Intel 80386 are from like 1985... BRO! ... Anyway... dig your content keep it up! :)
I know. I had one in the early 90s. I used to delete windows to make enough space so that I could play Warcraft in DOS - Jakub
@@TheStraightPipes The first Warcraft was epic... Spend hours at our local library getting it to work via Novell network from DOS... Windows 3.11 was just crappy and in the way... But getting 4 player multiplayer working was worth it... My friends and I had a blast! :)
This is Yuri's "United States of Whatever". (I know he's Canadian, but its an actual song reference.....shout out Liam Lynch).
I'm glad you're focusing on the infotainment system. A lot of electric car comparisons just focus on the driving and range and not the infotainment which everyone will have to deal with on a daily basis
You get me 👨❤️👨
Glad to see this video on the day I just ordered my Nissan Sylphy Electric - the Chinese version of Leaf.
Love this video! even on the Nissan website they recommend to use a roads (UK ) over motorways when in a traditional internal combustion engine higher extra urban driving speed mpg goes up :)
this is the funniest review i've watched vereb from the straight Pipe. Yuri I swear is what made with the best
That satellite radio rant is one of my new favorite things. On point Yuri.
I don't know if anyone mentioned it before, but the highest resolution for a DVD is 480p, not 720p as stated by Yuri. Still, another entertaining review.
Ya ya they mentioned it. I gotto brush up in my ancient media’s for future videos lol
Loving the honesty from Yuri in this one
More angry reviews please 😂
I hope you guys get to review the Subaru Crosstrek Plug-In, it looks like it'll be fantastic. Keep it up!
Harrison William Thorburn it seems to be a hybrid. The battery pack is small and apparently can’t go complexly EV mode
I hope that Subaru comes out with a complete EV car that would be awesome.
alex martens It's a plug in that can do 65mph (105kph) in EV mode. Perhaps you're looking up the specs of the old one?
Adam Jordan I meant that it would only run for electric for so many miles without the gas engine clicking on when you step on the gas. I could be wrong though!
The music at the start of the video makes me want a cherry blossom special edition Nissan Leaf
Great song choice eh
@@TheStraightPipes oh yeah.
No one gets more passionate than Yuri when bad infotainment is involved lmao
As an owner of one for many months...there are waaay more stupid things about it but yeah, you would have to live with it for weeks to learn them all. BUT you did teach me I can extend the visor - so THANK YOU!
thank you for being so effin' ("we're gonna bleep that out") honest about the stuff you don't like. Tell it like it is- call that shit out to keep the manufacturers honest. DO NOT apologize for that honesty. thanks again, boys!
I kinda totally agree with Yuri’s rant about satellite radio. Sometimes I don’t want to pick my music.
Rear heated seat button is actually in a smart location. What if your passengers get out and dont turn off, at least the driver can see if they are on and turn off not to waste battery
juddadam2 very true
Should be automatic. All seats have occupancy detectors. No point wasting energy heating an empty seat. Tesla does this. I suspect other brands do too.
The Leaf if the most affordable EV you can buy that goes a bit farther than the local supermarket. The range is "enough" but 300km would be great. The infotainment can be improved for sure (I felt he was too hard on that) but not a deal breaker. The Ioniq for me felt ridiculously cheap inside, but to each their own.
The version I'm excited about is the late 2019 Leaf which gets a bigger 60 kWh battery, 300km range, battery cooling and 200hp+.
At the time when I bought my 2018 Leaf (2018 spring) it was the best deal you could actually get. Here in Ontario, you had to wait 12-18 months to get eGolf and hyundai ioniq electric, Tesla 3 was double the price of Leaf SL. By that time the $14,000 Ontario rebate would have been gone. The current government should have kept these rebates, I would not have bought my electric car if I did not have the $14,000 rebate.
You can change the automatic unlock under the settings. Either disable, put in park, or turn car off.
Settings too difficult to find
Awesome review you guys, the Nissan Leaf does need improvement they still have a lot of years ahead of them
I look like an idiot in this coffee shop because I’m dying at Yuri’s, “this fucking infotainment“ comment
😂😂. Even Jakub took a step back!
What coffee did you get
I would be asking questions on the Nissan battery pack warranty. Nissan 8 years or 160,000 km. Now, look at a base Tesla 8 years or 240,000 km. Toyota starting in 2020 increased its hybrid battery warranty to 10 years or 240,000 km. Nissan also has you sign a document specifying the conditions of that battery warranty. How the vehicle is charged, left in the cold or in hot can void the warranty. There are a lot of outs in that warranty agreement for Nissan to void your warranty. Nissan also has not adopted any active cooling for its battery pack? The main reason the early Nissan Leaf battery packs that only had a 5-year warranty failed early was a lack of active cooling for the battery pack. Battery packs are very expensive and expensive to instal.
If you live in the city and charge at home, then 150 is plenty. I commute 97 mile round-trip and I never charge past 245 miles in my Tesla Model 3. I always have plenty battery left even after work and errands during the Polar Vortex.
Just a suggestion, we Canadian viewers would love it if you talked more about the as-tested price (I.e. options) of your vehicles a bit more, and recommended configurations ☺️
We always give the as tested price
TheStraightPipes how dare you
After frequently driving the first generation I mus admit - this is much more 'normal'. In my book - it’s a major step back for an electric car.
Kevskipops is a real MVP buying all these boxes. Thank you for keeping TSP alive!
Real talk
Love it when angry Yuri comes out to play!! excellent review as always dudes
I want you guys to check out the Chevy Volt.. I think it's the 'today's electric car'. Nowhere near perfect, but I don't have to worry about range anxiety and in my use case, I fill up every 4000-5000+ miles. It's awesome as an in-betweener right now.
Can't wait to see them review the Niro. IMO, it's about on par with the Kona, slightly better looks-wise IMO, and it doesn't have that nearly impossible to access storage area below the seat.
Loving the PMS outlet in this video
Pleaseeee look at the Chevy Spark EV. The 2014 had 400 lb ft of torque and its a fun little driver, tire squealing monster
Hei Yuri did you have a cup of coffee before the review. Common man , it ain't that bad but yes I agree it is a bit expensive. BTW, I noted Yuri get angry or upset more often than Jacob.
the top speed of that car for me when it was brand new it topped out at 165 kph now a year latter top speed is 148 or 149 with eco mode and e-pedal turned on I have noticed that when it hits that speed the real time power usage screen shows the power consumption bounces or jitters around 30 KWH per 100 Kilometers it will constantly try increasing then fall back quickly over and over jittering back on fourth while the cars floored for max speed
100% with Yuri on the satellite radio thing. Totally agree.
Thanks for including range in both KM & Miles, PLEASE ADD N/M TORQUE too.
Sorry, we can’t.
TheStraightPipes I don't mean on this particular video, I mean showing numbers in different units could generally make your videos more suitable for international viewers from EU, Asia, etc.
VHS is before VCDs, which are before DVDs
I've really been looking forward to this review and it didn't disappoint. The stuff I knew you hate you really hated... The 'nob', the infotainment. You forgot to rant at the piano black :)
There's a reason the new Leaf is why it is - which is based on the old Leaf and a lot of the body work and systems have not been updated... And that it is I believe the only 'affordable' electric car which is sold at a (probably quite small) profit. It's possible that the Kona/Niro are now profitable but you have to wait 12 months plus to get one here anyway (UK). So in answer to your question: they just did enough to update it (I love how comfortable it is and the space is great) but only just. The e-plus Leaf will supposedly get active thermal management and 350km range which will make it more sensible for North America.
Great teaser at the end
I have a feeling that Yuri is about to go like Michael Douglas in Falling Down! 😲
I have the 2018 LEAF S so I don't rely on the Infotainment screen too much, but it's crap compared to the Model 3 by Tesla. They do need to improve this. As you discovered, you can display your speed digitally on the left, but you have to find it and it's kind of hidden. I discovered this accidentally *after* buying the car, but it was a pleasant surprise. I find the power to be decent, but nothing like the Tesla Model 3. 0-30, this thing will surprise a lot of people. Features I'd get if I were buying new; heat pump, pro pilot assist (for parking assist), LED headlights, overhead camera. The non-LED headlights are terrible. I bought mine used and it had a quick charger option installed (and it's white, the color I wanted), so my particular trim level isn't what I'd normally buy. But, it'll do for a couple years until I can get in to a Tesla or some higher-range and better-appointed EV.
The range in the 2018+ LEAF is decent too, at 151 miles. I couldn't consider some EVs with less than that, and couldn't really afford EVs with more just yet....so it's a good balance and there are some nice used specimens out there.
Only the sith deal in absolutes 😂😂
We have a 2018 Chrysler Pacifica PHEV. It’s the only plug in 7 seater available here in Ontario besides the Tesla Model X. It has 50Km of range, and can recharge in 2 hours. Are you planning on reviewing one?
Looks monumentally better than before though.
I am really surprise to see that Nissan still using the same map from like 2010 in 2018, it looks just like my G37 infotainment map.
Decent looking vehicle actually, I can see these being decently popular.
Angry rant was great all you were missing was the lightning coming from your fingertips lol @ jakub missing that one! Also, id fucking love and would pay as an option for matrix display on the dashboard it would make my day everyday
Car looks good, just electric enough to still appear normal. Yuri turned into savagegeese there with his rant. Getting in and out of all these cars already has numbed you both a little - proof the heavy use of "whatever" - but then the annoying bits start to stand out more in ones perception. Anyway great looking video again, even Yuris hair is nice :D
VHS 240p Resolution.
DVD 480p
Blu-ray 1080p.
TVs are either 720p, 1080i, or 1080p.
Boom learned something new today
TheStraightPipes I got you all. Keep up the reviews 👍👍
If you could do a video about the electric cars rank, pointing pros and cons that would be amazing!
Greetings from Brazil
I like the fact that the gauge set has a nicer display than the infotainment screen. LMAO
Does it have independent rear suspension? I know its slightly mentioned a lot some may say its even overrated but I'm definetly pushing towards of if I can afford it :)
torsion beam at the rear unfortunately just like the last one.
@@MrConor159 the Mazda 3 is going from an independent back suspension to a torsion beam, because the median weenie buyer wants it quieter and smoother, instead of better for fast corners.
I see Yuri has been hanging out with Savagegeese a lot.
Yellin' Yuri is my fav
Hey your range is in my neck of the wood of America 🇺🇸
I'm glad you guys keep it real and say what you really think. It sucks that you can't do Tesla reviews because then you'd experience a proper electric send.
2019 honda civic sport; 2019 ford focus ; 2019 toyota avalon plzzzzz!
Is Canada getting the Focus? If so, I might just go to Windsor and buy one. Ford is bailing on cars in US right as they design a nice Focus hatch.
Problem with Leaf is their range is a bit shorter than Hyundai/KIA/Chevy EVs...
Can't wait for your Hellcat review. It's the complete antithesis of these all-electric "eco-friendly" cars!
It's the best. Perfect car
Imagine they make a sporty version of this leaf, It looks wonderful and turn into a sports hatch then man Nissan you got yourself a hot hatch
Can wait for you guys to review the New Insight
Need to make a separate category, "Yuri and Jakub RAGE reviews!" 😆
Agreed equal range of the Kia enero update the infotainment, improve the quality of cameras, increase the vehicle height with the 60kw, otherwise the car will bottom out on every speed bump. please please add reach and rake on the wheel , add proper water cooling to the battery pack not the hybrid system fitted to the ev2000, and please add the lighter interior colours as an option as not everyone likes dark interiors on all trim levels, please fix the illumination on the break lights right now at night only the bottom half of the break light illuminates is it so hard to add a led so all of it illuminates when breaking
Yes we need more angry reviews. I love when you guys add the special effects to show how you would have designed the car. All cars should have matrix graphics on the dashboard 😆
Does satellite radio only exist in the US and Canada? Its DAB in the U.K. might explain the fact most cars have spotty support.
Always an honest review, if infotainment is garbage we need to know. Perfect.
I actually prefer the old design. More interesting, sleek and futuristic. The new one looks good but conventional (bland).
That's worth three or four Micras. Hard sell when the Micra gets like 60 mpg and includes no range anxiety.
You guys need to keep track of your upload schedule, the Smart ForTwo video isn't up yet.
Yes it is. It's up on Patreon
I'm totally agree with Yuri about infotainment system I rather use CD and cassette player instead of laggy stupid system that didn't worth of the money.
“Tired of Dumb Things in Cars.” Yuri’s new podcast
Lol that’s just gonna be this channel
You guys need a new channel: Angry Canadian Car Reviews. Seriously though, loved this review.
Yuri, release your anger! Yes come to the dark side...
I laughed at the "oops still cluttered tho" and the countless positives angrily explained. The screen does look bad thought. Maybe a third party solution can fix that.
Are you guys going to check-out the 62Kw version? Come-on - go for it.
Funniest video I've seen from the guys. Just about to buy a Leaf and noticed the review. Love the rant.
Love my XM satelite radio plus it can rewind and do preset up to 20 i think but sadly no volume knob but steerinf wheel buttom volume
Haha the gear shift looks like an arcade stick! I dig it!
That shifter guys! IT'S F-N UNGLY (FUGLY?). It looks like a freaken pimple!!!
Ya I said I don't like it