I have a 08 lmm 350,000 on it fass 165 with efi live and get 16 around town 23-26 on highway. Towns my skid steer and mini ex 5 days a week with no problem
What would you say one is worth with 370k miles? Body is in mint condition, interior is great. Color is rubbed off of HVAC control buttons is all. No rust
I have a 08 gmc 2500 hd only has 107k on it I can say I take care of it and it’s almost same condition.maybe a couple of extra scrapes on the paint but I will say I have driven this all over and will easily take it cross country without a concern only thing I have done to it is leveling kit and 33’s on it they are so reliable .
I have an 08 LMM 3500hd 134k, Fass pump HSP all around Except egr is factory. PPE pans oil and trans 5/8 coolant lines w/Mishimoto transmission cooler, averaged 23 going to KC and back. Motor is completely stock I've got the 3" down not installed wanting to get a new turbo for even better boost and economy. I'm keeping my LMM till the day I die! No rust, interior is like that 09 constantly getting comments FYI, PULLS LIKE A BEAST.. 😊 And not spending money on DEF.
I got a nice chevy 2010 Lmm dually with, sb intake, straight pipe, 10 blade turbo, high performance solenoid and a five switch chip and this thing is a beautiful running tank
Enjoyed the content here. I have a 2015 LML on my 3500 Dually. I watch the numbers closely. I get 18-21 on the highway and 13 in town. When towing my 12,700lb 38' 5th wheel, it's about 10-12mpg on the highway. ALWAYS has enough power when needed to get into the left lane and pass with no issues when the trailer is on. Still have the CP4 but am putting an Air dog pre pump on her this month. 75K for mileage on the truck. Love her...
22:02 I tuned and deleted my brand-new 2016 Denali and made sure to include the CP3 conversion. It may have never been a problem for me, but now I KNOW it won't be a problem.
I think the only benefit the LML and LMM have over the L5P is the true Allison 1000 trans. That 10 speed has a lot to prove if it’s going to stand up to its predecessor.
@@Brin.K Absolutely I own a 16LML and a 18 L5P the Allison 1000 is an amazing transmission that’s why I think the new 10 speed has some big shoes to fill.
@@Rubbermeetsrd I agree completely and tbh I want to give General Motors a generation or 2 before I chase after the 10spd, let them work all the kinks out first.
I was nervous of the 10 speed when I got my 22 but after 30,000 miles of pulling the north Cascades pass and Rocky Mountain passes with averages of 10 to 12,000 pound trailer I just can’t see looking back. I literally never run out of power and just have to slow down for the corners. And the fuel mileage never cease to amaze me. I’m not much of a gearhead, but I am interested in getting to my hunting or next fishing spot.
The banks derringer and pedal monster are well worth the money for the 23. In my opinion no 6 speed is going to tow like the 10 spd in the 20 plus. The problem with using so little fuel and trying to judge mileage is the amount of foam will shut the pump off at different times.. so unless you over fill it you're not gonna be very accurate
My 2019 Deleted and Tuned L5P (3500 SRW) there is (like yours) A MASSIVE difference between the trip computer numbers and hand calculated. The trip computer is far more optimistic than hand calculated numbers. I still average 19-20 mpg hand calculated mpg (unloaded) on the highway though, which is amazing since the computer numbers show way higher. I get 11MPG. One thing you may want to look into is ensuring you wait 30 seconds after the first click upon filling up, and then topping off to the 2nd click. The reason for this, especially for diesel fuel, is that it foams up quite a bit, and each truck has a different fuel filler neck, which (given flow variances between pumps and fuel filler neck design variances etc) can result in larger differences especially with diesel vehicles. If you try this, you likely will notice that sometimes the time to the second click will be longer than others based on these differences. It's great to minimize the variances so you can maximize the accuracy wherever possible - and the reason most larger auto journalists do it that way (IE TFL etc). Anyway, still a cool vid - thanks for posting!
I have a 2008 GMC Sierra 2500 LMM....and i love it!!!!....no issues...just a delete and stock tune....and its perfect. I got the exact same slt with tan interier😂
I had guessed 8.5 0-60 on the 09 as well. I expected it to be competitive but not THAT competitive. I'm not surprised by the MPG though. That body style is actually quite efficient.
I have 2 08 duramax they both are great they both tow my heavy 35 ft pj one has 420k mi on it and the other has 290k mi they both r tuned and deleted all the way no problem one is a 2500hd crew long and the other is a 3500hd dually crew long have more power than anything with the right tunes the heaviest I have hauled so far was 32,000 combined and on that trip I lost the trailer breaks but the truck handed it so good
I have an 09 gmc lmm and I absolutely love the truck. It has 340k on rn and it drive it every day. It is time to do head gaskets and studs on it (pressurizing the coolant system) but I drive the truck every day an hr to and from work and it's been the best truck I've ever owned. It has an efi live tune on it with a dsp 5 switch and it massively changed the mpg and power of my truck. Got 16 mpg before and gets 22-25 now and it almost feels like it has an exhaust break on it now with the tow tune. Drastic difference in every way the truck drives and pulls.
I have a Duraburb with an 08 LMM and Alison trans. It's a tank. Open road cruising it gets 20-22 MPG. I didn't hear it mentioned, but if there is a difference in the axle gear ratios, then the mpg and 0-60 isn't a fair comparison. Technically you would have to include the trans gear ratio, diff gear ratio, and tire diameters to make the comparison, but nobody going to change the tire sizes so they all have the exact same overall ratio. Still fun to watch.
I have a tuned LB7 with 270k and a 2020 L5P tuned with 60k. I'd have to say working daily I'd take the L5P, you can't beat the creature comforts. But I absolutely love both. The new one has some frikin snort tho but the ole LB7 rips too. I appreciate both in their own way. Both tow 15k lbs with ease and milage wise I'd give it to the L5P because of stock tires vs aftermarket on the lb7
Cool video and interesting for sure. Can’t wait to see the towing comparison. I’d pick an old truck every time myself. My 03 lb7 is not stock but I have less than $30k in it with having a trans rebuild with suncoast stage 5 parts and a triple disc tc. Same exact style start I do 5.2 0-60 with 33/12.50s. I have only pulled 12k load but it pulled it fine. Fuel mileage sucks though, 15ish empty but I don’t set cruise at 60 ever🤣🤣🤣
I’ve got both an LML and an LMM, 170,000mi on the LML and 470,000 on the LMM. The LMM has been more reliable than I could have ever imagined. The LML is mechanically stock with EZlink tuning and the LMM is straight piped with EFI live. LML gets me about 16mpg and LMM 20mpg.
07 LBZ Classic bought in 2011 as of today 318000 clicks on the ol’dometer heading for 1 million. Should take 27 more years to hit it. Wouldn’t have any other truck….till death do us part.
I had a 2016 LML and heard so many stories about the CP4 / snapping the crank so I got my 2017 L5P deleted / tuned gets 20 highway 17 city on a 120 tune
Keep the 23. That's a fine ride. How did you put 38k on the truck in one year? Any progress on the Seebold? Spring is round the corner. Have a great week.
Depends on the setting the smallest distance average on the lml and L5p is over 25 miles and you guys only drove 21 so not the best test. Thanks for testing them.
Deleted LML all the way. The only problem a LML has is that CP4 pump. Put a lift pump on, add lube to your fuel, and that CP4 will last. LMM has less HP and had injector problems.
In my opinion, the LML looks best all around. I feel like the LMM is too car like inside and the outside is very meh. The L5P seems to have got back to that feeling/look to me. (the new 24's are definitely a step above all of them. And I drive a 1994 so the LML gives me those vibes). Lastly it's funny / wild how the LMM looks like a 1500 compared to the newer trucks. Time to watch the towing test.
Throw some kryptonite products on the front end of that 09 and some fresh shocks and enjoy that 09! It'll tighten that front end up tremendously and the shocks, you would be surprised how much it improves the ride
I'm not a diesel guy but, even I know the "predef detuned" older stuff perform better. The EPA adds are the difference. We also know that the new trucks are capable of better performance but, only if you defeat all the EPA BS... I know you know this...😉
Are they all the same trim level? The trim levels have more sound deadening material as they get higher levels. My 13 Denali is super quiet compared to a lower level trim.
I enjoyed the videos. Will watch the pull video now Question I have a 2008 LMM 70K actual miles Just broke in.., Excellent condition Drive a few times a year pulling a boat.., Way overboard. But it’s paid off Do I have the CP3 or CP4? I can’t justify trading or a new unit with another loan payment Yeah not like a 23 and quiet and fancy stuff but.., Going to your next video now
@@richrules Thanks for the info. Do you know if a site for these trucks ex2008.. where one can purchase accessories add ons body stuff etc Like I seen your 09 had the extension mirrors I need them. The OEM don’t work when pulling. Can’t see behind
The 23 is definitely a better truck all the way around but it’s also medium duty capable which the 09 is just a pick up truck also the 23 is going to give you emission issues sooner than later I’ve seen more than a few in the shop for weeks because of the emission issues the 09 delete and enjoy being paid off.
My pops has the extended cab 08 LMM that runs pretty good but his is only averaging 12.7… what is a good tuner he can get that adds good power and better fuel Mileage?? He has a Banks tuner in it now and it don’t help for shit.. don’t really even seem like a power difference.
You can’t say it’s off because how do you know you stopped the pump at the same gallons that were in the tank as the last one …. Foam does trip the nozzle you can’t do that unless you had exact measurements of fuel sorry I don’t believe it mine says 400 to Emily and I’ll pull early 430 plus till I’m empty soooooo
New 10L1000 is not that expensive from the dealership. Sucks they aren’t reliable like the 6speeds. But I have a 94 Japanese sports car that cost more to replace the manual transmission. The 10L1000 does seem to go out fairly early when towing heavy and frequently though
TOWING TEST is NEXT! What else should we compare on these 3 trucks?
How much better the truck that is pre Def runs.... unfortunately the Def is killing all diesel engines!
Love this. I have a 2020 gmc 2500hd denali... its a beast towing our 10k camper. What about throwing in a lbz or lb7 to test also.
Stopping
I have a 08 lmm 350,000 on it fass 165 with efi live and get 16 around town 23-26 on highway. Towns my skid steer and mini ex 5 days a week with no problem
My 08 lmm has 335,000 and runs like a top!
@@greggaona2647deleted or stock?
@@tyler7146 deleted. Glow plugs changed out at 200k
What would you say one is worth with 370k miles? Body is in mint condition, interior is great. Color is rubbed off of HVAC control buttons is all. No rust
LMM baby! I bought one new in ‘09 and that truck was an absolute beast.
My grandma drives that truck w/it turnt up to 500hp. She loves her powa! Rolling coal all over town!!
I have 08 lmm I owned it 12 yrs now awesome truck no issues what so ever
How many miles ?
And , Is it deleted ?
@@donnieallen656 200,000 and yes its deleted
I have a 08 gmc 2500 hd only has 107k on it I can say I take care of it and it’s almost same condition.maybe a couple of extra scrapes on the paint but I will say I have driven this all over and will easily take it cross country without a concern only thing I have done to it is leveling kit and 33’s on it they are so reliable .
I have an 08 LMM 3500hd 134k, Fass pump HSP all around Except egr is factory. PPE pans oil and trans 5/8 coolant lines w/Mishimoto transmission cooler, averaged 23 going to KC and back. Motor is completely stock I've got the 3" down not installed wanting to get a new turbo for even better boost and economy. I'm keeping my LMM till the day I die! No rust, interior is like that 09 constantly getting comments FYI, PULLS LIKE A BEAST.. 😊 And not spending money on DEF.
Team deleted and tuned LML
The LMM numbers are especially impressive considering the extra load from McD’s! 😂
My ‘21 l5p had quite a few issues until I deleted it and now it gets better mileage and hasn’t had any more issues
Love the l5p when there deleted!
@@TheRealEricRose yeah they sound super good
What mpg do you see around town and highway?
@@tortelini87 I’ve got 21.5 highway but the average is about 12.5 because I’m pulling trailers most of the time
Deleted is about 28 highway
LMM pre DEF! I have a 2008 2500HD with only 150,000 miles and does anything I ask. Will care for it until I bury it, will prolly outlast me.
I got a nice chevy 2010 Lmm dually with, sb intake, straight pipe, 10 blade turbo, high performance solenoid and a five switch chip and this thing is a beautiful running tank
Enjoyed the content here. I have a 2015 LML on my 3500 Dually. I watch the numbers closely. I get 18-21 on the highway and 13 in town. When towing my 12,700lb 38' 5th wheel, it's about 10-12mpg on the highway. ALWAYS has enough power when needed to get into the left lane and pass with no issues when the trailer is on. Still have the CP4 but am putting an Air dog pre pump on her this month. 75K for mileage on the truck. Love her...
22:02 I tuned and deleted my brand-new 2016 Denali and made sure to include the CP3 conversion. It may have never been a problem for me, but now I KNOW it won't be a problem.
I think the only benefit the LML and LMM have over the L5P is the true Allison 1000 trans. That 10 speed has a lot to prove if it’s going to stand up to its predecessor.
Or he coulda got a 17’-19’ and got the best of both worlds, L5P with an Allison A1000 trans 6spd
@@Brin.K Absolutely I own a 16LML and a 18 L5P the Allison 1000 is an amazing transmission that’s why I think the new 10 speed has some big shoes to fill.
@@Rubbermeetsrd I agree completely and tbh I want to give General Motors a generation or 2 before I chase after the 10spd, let them work all the kinks out first.
I was nervous of the 10 speed when I got my 22 but after 30,000 miles of pulling the north Cascades pass and Rocky Mountain passes with averages of 10 to 12,000 pound trailer I just can’t see looking back. I literally never run out of power and just have to slow down for the corners. And the fuel mileage never cease to amaze me. I’m not much of a gearhead, but I am interested in getting to my hunting or next fishing spot.
I dont have any of these trucks but I am really enjoying this comparison. Thanks guys.
Glad you like them!
That LMM is absolutely beautiful! especially for the miles too!
The banks derringer and pedal monster are well worth the money for the 23. In my opinion no 6 speed is going to tow like the 10 spd in the 20 plus.
The problem with using so little fuel and trying to judge mileage is the amount of foam will shut the pump off at different times.. so unless you over fill it you're not gonna be very accurate
It's relative; using the same method on all 3 still give the nod to better fuel economy from the LMM.
My 2019 Deleted and Tuned L5P (3500 SRW) there is (like yours) A MASSIVE difference between the trip computer numbers and hand calculated. The trip computer is far more optimistic than hand calculated numbers. I still average 19-20 mpg hand calculated mpg (unloaded) on the highway though, which is amazing since the computer numbers show way higher. I get 11MPG. One thing you may want to look into is ensuring you wait 30 seconds after the first click upon filling up, and then topping off to the 2nd click. The reason for this, especially for diesel fuel, is that it foams up quite a bit, and each truck has a different fuel filler neck, which (given flow variances between pumps and fuel filler neck design variances etc) can result in larger differences especially with diesel vehicles. If you try this, you likely will notice that sometimes the time to the second click will be longer than others based on these differences. It's great to minimize the variances so you can maximize the accuracy wherever possible - and the reason most larger auto journalists do it that way (IE TFL etc). Anyway, still a cool vid - thanks for posting!
I have a 2008 GMC Sierra 2500 LMM....and i love it!!!!....no issues...just a delete and stock tune....and its perfect. I got the exact same slt with tan interier😂
I had guessed 8.5 0-60 on the 09 as well. I expected it to be competitive but not THAT competitive. I'm not surprised by the MPG though. That body style is actually quite efficient.
I have 2 08 duramax they both are great they both tow my heavy 35 ft pj one has 420k mi on it and the other has 290k mi they both r tuned and deleted all the way no problem one is a 2500hd crew long and the other is a 3500hd dually crew long have more power than anything with the right tunes the heaviest I have hauled so far was 32,000 combined and on that trip I lost the trailer breaks but the truck handed it so good
I have an 09 gmc lmm and I absolutely love the truck. It has 340k on rn and it drive it every day. It is time to do head gaskets and studs on it (pressurizing the coolant system) but I drive the truck every day an hr to and from work and it's been the best truck I've ever owned. It has an efi live tune on it with a dsp 5 switch and it massively changed the mpg and power of my truck. Got 16 mpg before and gets 22-25 now and it almost feels like it has an exhaust break on it now with the tow tune. Drastic difference in every way the truck drives and pulls.
17mpg is about right for the 10 speed truck the 17-19 6 speed L5P get way better mpg and the seats are more comfortable too.
I love my 18 L5P Denali.
I have a Duraburb with an 08 LMM and Alison trans. It's a tank. Open road cruising it gets 20-22 MPG. I didn't hear it mentioned, but if there is a difference in the axle gear ratios, then the mpg and 0-60 isn't a fair comparison. Technically you would have to include the trans gear ratio, diff gear ratio, and tire diameters to make the comparison, but nobody going to change the tire sizes so they all have the exact same overall ratio. Still fun to watch.
I have a tuned LB7 with 270k and a 2020 L5P tuned with 60k. I'd have to say working daily I'd take the L5P, you can't beat the creature comforts. But I absolutely love both. The new one has some frikin snort tho but the ole LB7 rips too. I appreciate both in their own way. Both tow 15k lbs with ease and milage wise I'd give it to the L5P because of stock tires vs aftermarket on the lb7
What tuners are you using? We have a banks now and don’t seem like much of a difference
@@leonard383 motor ops
Lml swap out the cp4. They are the best. I daily drove one for a couple years and I fell in love with it. This coming from a Cummins guy.
Cool video and interesting for sure. Can’t wait to see the towing comparison. I’d pick an old truck every time myself. My 03 lb7 is not stock but I have less than $30k in it with having a trans rebuild with suncoast stage 5 parts and a triple disc tc. Same exact style start I do 5.2 0-60 with 33/12.50s. I have only pulled 12k load but it pulled it fine. Fuel mileage sucks though, 15ish empty but I don’t set cruise at 60 ever🤣🤣🤣
Rich that truck looks like the truck R3 took to sick week if so what a great friend . If not nice truck
09 is a beautiful truck
I never got more than 16 mpg out of my deleted LMM leveled on 35’s. It was even worse before I deleted it. It had efi live and a lift pump.
I’ve got both an LML and an LMM, 170,000mi on the LML and 470,000 on the LMM. The LMM has been more reliable than I could have ever imagined. The LML is mechanically stock with EZlink tuning and the LMM is straight piped with EFI live. LML gets me about 16mpg and LMM 20mpg.
Diesel foams a lot when filling, it can kick the pump off randomly towards the top. You definitely need to do more miles to get accurate readings.
LMM baby!
Love all diesel trucks but the new ones are hard to beat! I'd keep both
Duramax tuner/ calibrated power. Fantastic compliant tunes. Probably the best Without question.
This is almost like TFL truck channel. Gas pumping should use the 2 click top off method after 30 seconds rest.
07 LBZ Classic bought in 2011 as of today 318000 clicks on the ol’dometer heading for 1 million. Should take 27 more years to hit it. Wouldn’t have any other truck….till death do us part.
I love Gmc Sierra L5P and LML and Lmm Duramax Love Ram Cummins Truck and Ford Powerstroke Truck Rich Rules
Put some tow mirrors on the 09 Rich, would look way better
Lmm baby❤
I love both trucks, check the GVWR and tow capacity of the 09 from the door stickers.
L5P is a great engine!
Kept saying the DEF systems hurt the fuel economy. The DPF definitely hurt them. You’d be amazed what the fuel economy is without all of that crap.
I had a 2016 LML and heard so many stories about the CP4 / snapping the crank so I got my 2017 L5P deleted / tuned gets 20 highway 17 city on a 120 tune
I get about 27 28 on full delete 150hp tune. 23 l5p
The 07-13 trucks were pieces though. Do not miss my 08 GMC
you definitely got a defective one
I have rode in a Cadillac down that road you drove on and it felt as rough as it looked in those trucks
Keep the 23. That's a fine ride. How did you put 38k on the truck in one year? Any progress on the Seebold? Spring is round the corner. Have a great week.
Been across the country! Multiple trips to Oklahoma, Tennessee, been to Missouri, Florida. Get driven everywhere!
That's wild. 38k at say 15mpg at $4/gallon is $10k in fuel for the year
@@NWI_SteelI’ve been compiling things for tax purposes and seeing that number kind of hurt 🤣
Depends on the setting the smallest distance average on the lml and L5p is over 25 miles and you guys only drove 21 so not the best test. Thanks for testing them.
Deleted LML all the way. The only problem a LML has is that CP4 pump. Put a lift pump on, add lube to your fuel, and that CP4 will last. LMM has less HP and had injector problems.
Most people do the CP3 conversation on them.
Great video
I have a 2011 duramax and overall fuel mileage adv. is 12. Any advice????
Is it tuned?
Just puttin it out there... The badillac needs to make an appearance at the Frankenmuth car show next fall....
Solid possibility of that
Lmm needs compounds small fuel and a trans an send it
In my opinion, the LML looks best all around. I feel like the LMM is too car like inside and the outside is very meh. The L5P seems to have got back to that feeling/look to me. (the new 24's are definitely a step above all of them. And I drive a 1994 so the LML gives me those vibes).
Lastly it's funny / wild how the LMM looks like a 1500 compared to the newer trucks. Time to watch the towing test.
23 L5p most definitely! Tune it and it will be stupid crazy
Lmm’s are great trucks
Throw some kryptonite products on the front end of that 09 and some fresh shocks and enjoy that 09! It'll tighten that front end up tremendously and the shocks, you would be surprised how much it improves the ride
LML needs a CP3 swap. I don't understand how the LMM gets so much better milage, unless it's missing the DPF and has an efficient tune.
What’s the wheel and tire set up on the 15?
Denali in high trim ltzs had heated annd cooled in gmt 900s
I'm not a diesel guy but, even I know the "predef detuned" older stuff perform better. The EPA adds are the difference. We also know that the new trucks are capable of better performance but, only if you defeat all the EPA BS...
I know you know this...😉
Nice trucks guys! Good review. I’m wondering is the 09 having less emissions crap on it helped with the mpg?
I think it being physically smaller was the main thing. It still has its own emissions system that isn’t the best.
Only one off those trucks takes def as off now seeing a little coal roll out and the sound of exhaust I’m not buying it 😂
Are you all going to do collabs with R3? Not sure if ya'll still get along, that's not my business. Just wondering.
Great content idea. I have an LML
I wouldn't say the CP4 is an issue the fact it's relies so much on fuel lubrication and we have shit ULSD in the states is an issue.
‘08 2500HD here. Just turned 557k
Mountains? Hills? Pffft. 😂
Are they all the same trim level? The trim levels have more sound deadening material as they get higher levels. My 13 Denali is super quiet compared to a lower level trim.
I enjoyed the videos. Will watch the pull video now
Question
I have a 2008 LMM
70K actual miles
Just broke in..,
Excellent condition
Drive a few times a year pulling a boat..,
Way overboard. But it’s paid off
Do I have the CP3 or
CP4?
I can’t justify trading or a new unit with another loan payment
Yeah not like a 23 and quiet and fancy stuff but..,
Going to your next video now
@@daveholte7658 you have a CP3. Enjoy your truck!
@@richrules Thanks for the info. Do you know if a site for these trucks ex2008.. where one can purchase accessories add ons body stuff etc
Like I seen your 09 had the extension mirrors
I need them. The OEM don’t work when pulling. Can’t see behind
The 23 is definitely a better truck all the way around but it’s also medium duty capable which the 09 is just a pick up truck also the 23 is going to give you emission issues sooner than later I’ve seen more than a few in the shop for weeks because of the emission issues the 09 delete and enjoy being paid off.
Lmm is probably tuned work at dealership and never seen those numbers on 09 and there a lot lighter
Looks a lot like a loaner pickup another new channel used to tow some toys to Florida and back 😜
You need glasses
My pops has the extended cab 08 LMM that runs pretty good but his is only averaging 12.7… what is a good tuner he can get that adds good power and better fuel Mileage?? He has a Banks tuner in it now and it don’t help for shit.. don’t really even seem like a power difference.
Keep them both!
I wish!
I have a lmm I love it
I still say get rid of the new one build the old one. A mild build so it's still reliable.
Take 6 months of payments on that L5P and put it towards that LMM. Then you will have a beast.
Sell the 23 and "build" the 09... eventually the motor tune exhaust wheels tires with airbags
Keep the 23. More reliable, time is money, and it’s a tax right off on your business
LB7 is king!!!!!
Put a Banks pedal monster and derringer and that 23 will wake the f up. Lol
The lbz is the best duramax.
Hard to beat a LBZ
I thought your 23 was a denali in the first few videos when you got it. Did you get a different one?
Nope never had a Denali!
Was your 23 trans leak at the torque converter? My buddies started leaking at 5k then dealer fixed now again leaking around 8k again
Yeah the seal on the front cover
It's not tuned. My dad had an 08 and he never had a bit of issues with it.
Sell the '23 and use part of the money for
'09 upgrades.
You can’t say it’s off because how do you know you stopped the pump at the same gallons that were in the tank as the last one …. Foam does trip the nozzle you can’t do that unless you had exact measurements of fuel sorry I don’t believe it mine says 400 to Emily and I’ll pull early 430 plus till I’m empty soooooo
09 LMM GANG RAHHHHHHHHHH
The 09 os alot lighter than the l5p if Im not mistaken
I'd keep the 2023 unless you put a 1,000 WHP and 2,000 ft lbs of torque from a boosted 12 valve Cummins.
You missing out on 2024 redesign
the LLY is the best😏
Def kills mpg
💯
Sell the ‘23 before the transmission goes out and build the 09!
New 10L1000 is not that expensive from the dealership. Sucks they aren’t reliable like the 6speeds. But I have a 94 Japanese sports car that cost more to replace the manual transmission. The 10L1000 does seem to go out fairly early when towing heavy and frequently though
Try to get an average off of a 25 mile trip lol😂. Hell my mustang could average 25 if I based it off that 😆.
Looks like you guys are driving 127, rich rules baby!
Little bit east of that 😉
Yea but 09 you put a tuner and that will last forever compared to the 23 pos garbage
Lmm wins all day