Unfortunately as long as people are desperate enough to pay it dealers are gonna charge it. If the car sat and nobody paid markup they would stop. People are desperate and bad with money. People were buying Auto versions of the regular GR86 even though they wanted a manual and paid markup because they "wanted the car now" that's the people driving markups on cars that wouldn't have had it before
@@ftr911drvr the men in power dont want care ownership, they are attacking the auto industry with inflation and mandates for electric cars nobody wants. This is attack against humanity
Toyota is just on FIRE! I LOVE the improvements they have made on the GR Corolla and I LOVE the improvements they have made on this GR 86 Hakone Edition. These cars are absolute GIFTS to the everyday working-class enthusiast. I am taking none of it for granted and hope to get one soon. Dealer mark ups have to be controlled because they will continue to kill the momentum of these amazing cars.
Agreed, love a good green. Just saw a BZ4X today in what looked like a very similar green and a Cadillac Lyriq just a few cars away in a very very dark green which also looked beautiful.
I absolutely love this car, the GR 86 is to me the greatest car on sale this side of a 911 or Cayman GTS 4.0. But I'm telling you, the GR 86 and GR Corolla are some of the most fun cars out there and Gazoo Racing is the GOAT.
Happy to see a nice 4k image with this car lit properly. Production team did a good job on this. Thank you. All the videos out of Japan look horrific and you can't tell what the color actually is. Turns out it's stunning!
My friend had an early model that he modded with turbo and suspension bits, upgraded clutch etc… it was friggin impossible to drive and not really fun but fast. He now has a new one, factory in every way and it is a much better car. If you have room in your stable for an affordable fun sports car that will carry you and your tooth brush, this should be on your list to try out
They dont exist yet is why. Will be going out to dealers in another month or two. If you are talking about the GR86 is general then go to bigger cities i guess
Not sure why she says she wouldn't normally look at a GR86. It's a great looking car in a bunch of colors (including this one) The GR86 looks amazing in red, white and Trueno blue. The BRZ looks awesome in Subaru's famous World Rally Blue Pearl. Toyota/Subaru should absolutely ditch black and give us some more fun colors. Only 3% of people choose black for this car (compared to around 20% for most cars). I shouldn't complain though, I am thrilled the make the car at all. Half the price of a base Porsche and twice as fun as a Civic Si.
@@kbb "If I saw this driving down the street I would definitely take a look at it and I can't normally say that about the GR86" From 2:58. Happy to see the video though, it's the best coverage of this Hakone available.
It was only supposed to be a quick one-take overview. Gotta be succinct when you've got 10 minutes with a car. Hopefully Toyota will give us more time in the near future to drive it.
I find the dealer markup on cars to be just insulting. There is no car that I'd pay those huge fees for. And few dealers that I'd return to if they tried pulling that shit on me.
Better off foing with the base model with an performance package. It wont be marked up as much as the the special editions and theres more out there to choose from.
@@Bmontepeque11 ??? Are you nuts? Supra, Z, Corvette, Mustang, etc etc. Yes it's a light weight sports car and great as it is but since day one people have asked for a turbo model. You can have more than one trim level you know.
@@SSS-mp8th turbo it yourself, would run you about 10k. Leave NA RWD manual cars to people who like them. There is a reason why boxster/cayman with turbo 4 are not as in demand as NA 6.
You buy this for the handling which would be ruined with more weight on the nose of the car. I'm willing to bet you haven't driven it. It's quick enough for sure.
They were literally no different than just the badging. And actually if you didn’t know it was only the FRS in the US market everywhere else it was the GT86 when it came out in 2013.
@@TH-1988 neptune 2.0 is dropped, the green is replacing it for 2025. it's already dropped from 2025 Japan site, and green took its spot. will probably reflect in use site once updates 2025 on there
Nope. BRG is a darker green that almost goes to black in certain light. Remember green is made up of yellow and blue so she's not wrong, there is some blueish tint in there but yeah it's not quite teal either.
I really think if you see it in person you’d see what she’s talking about. No camera’s white balance and TV screen or phone can display the color as properly as real life. ijs.
After so many years of upgrades but yet still refuse to add a turbo, really disappointed, maybe should wait for the "Sillycar", I heard it is turbo charged.
toyoda subaru crap Subaru designs and builds the 2.4-liter, four-cylinder, horizontally-opposed boxer engine for the Toyota GR86. The engine is called the FA20D and has a Toyota engine code.
It already has 250 hp, any and all dynos confim that, and a turbo? Nothing shall ruin natural aspiration, you want a turbo there is the GR Corolla and GR Supra 2.0 for that, this is better in some regards because it's Naturally Aspirated.
Miata is even more expensive (at least the highest spec/trim) & it’s slower. Not to mention it looks hella feminine lol. I’ll give it the reliability point tho.
@@CarsOverPeople yes it more expensive cuz ur buying quality, feminine? I wouldnt say that but even so i rather that with beautiful aluminum parts underneath then the other one that doesn’t know what it is is it a Toyota? Is it a Subaru with stamp Steel arms
good luck getting this version without crazy dealer markup.
for sure! when i got my 10th anniversary edition last summer they wanted 1,000 over
I really hope I can find this close to msrp...
subaru overcharges too
Unfortunately as long as people are desperate enough to pay it dealers are gonna charge it. If the car sat and nobody paid markup they would stop. People are desperate and bad with money. People were buying Auto versions of the regular GR86 even though they wanted a manual and paid markup because they "wanted the car now" that's the people driving markups on cars that wouldn't have had it before
@@ftr911drvr the men in power dont want care ownership, they are attacking the auto industry with inflation and mandates for electric cars nobody wants. This is attack against humanity
Lyn is right on: the color combo is stunning and screams $$$. I think the colors give off Aston Martin vibes.
Toyota is just on FIRE! I LOVE the improvements they have made on the GR Corolla and I LOVE the improvements they have made on this GR 86 Hakone Edition. These cars are absolute GIFTS to the everyday working-class enthusiast. I am taking none of it for granted and hope to get one soon. Dealer mark ups have to be controlled because they will continue to kill the momentum of these amazing cars.
Just look around. I pre ordered mine and got it at MSRP.
2:40 "you're not spending a fortune on this car" honey wait until you see the dealer markup
Dealer markups are done in most areas of the country. And they can always be done by not paying over sticker.
They want 38k near me. They're out of their mind.
@@CapFlipGaming38K is a good price. My 10th anniversary was 36K. If you have the opportunity buy it.
theyre discounting it 1k off msrp at mine now
@@CapFlipGaming is this including the performance pack?
What a gorgeous green
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Agreed, love a good green. Just saw a BZ4X today in what looked like a very similar green and a Cadillac Lyriq just a few cars away in a very very dark green which also looked beautiful.
When her ring hits that beautiful green! 1:37
Ouch.
I absolutely love this car, the GR 86 is to me the greatest car on sale this side of a 911 or Cayman GTS 4.0.
But I'm telling you, the GR 86 and GR Corolla are some of the most fun cars out there and Gazoo Racing is the GOAT.
Happy to see a nice 4k image with this car lit properly. Production team did a good job on this. Thank you.
All the videos out of Japan look horrific and you can't tell what the color actually is.
Turns out it's stunning!
Even this didn't do it justice. In person the color is spectacular.
I thought Jay Leno was doing the review for a sec!
That's mean lol😂
@@Paronic 😂
Lol the Canadian tuxedo
What a beauty 😍 the color scheme, the silhouette, the interior ❤
She sounds like shes never seen a GR 86 before
We are in love! absolutely excited for this latest GR86 to hit our lot!
The Jay Leno denim style is funny! I like your reviews 👌
Best toyota design . Lovely looking small coupe.
This car will be a future collectable in a world of EVs.
My friend had an early model that he modded with turbo and suspension bits, upgraded clutch etc… it was friggin impossible to drive and not really fun but fast. He now has a new one, factory in every way and it is a much better car. If you have room in your stable for an affordable fun sports car that will carry you and your tooth brush, this should be on your list to try out
Just perfect sports coupe 😍😍
Where do they sell these. Because I never seen one of these in my life. 😂
They dont exist yet is why. Will be going out to dealers in another month or two. If you are talking about the GR86 is general then go to bigger cities i guess
I hope this is the farewell edition with the Subaru engine, and Toyota would get a Yamaha inline 4 back in the racing beat...
So ruin the handling with a higher COG so you can have an anemic, peaky engine with 180-190hp. Makes perfect sense.
@@bearclaw5115
Subaru will still have it with the BRZ.
Not sure why she says she wouldn't normally look at a GR86. It's a great looking car in a bunch of colors (including this one) The GR86 looks amazing in red, white and Trueno blue. The BRZ looks awesome in Subaru's famous World Rally Blue Pearl.
Toyota/Subaru should absolutely ditch black and give us some more fun colors. Only 3% of people choose black for this car (compared to around 20% for most cars). I shouldn't complain though, I am thrilled the make the car at all. Half the price of a base Porsche and twice as fun as a Civic Si.
Pretty sure she didn't say that. 🙃
@@kbb "If I saw this driving down the street I would definitely take a look at it and I can't normally say that about the GR86" From 2:58.
Happy to see the video though, it's the best coverage of this Hakone available.
Great video Lyn!
Great car. Interested in what changes they did to the power steering
Love that color wonder if they will offer that color option on the 2025 Gr Rolla I'd be sold on that
gen 1 hakone paint was way cleaner
Good looking car.
Rockin the Canadian tuxedo
Love that color.
In washington area
All my dealers markup by a couple grand at least
Can't imagine what this one is gonna be
Love the interior tho
Stunning
its beautiful!!!
the gr 86 is a good looking car
Well, the car is very nice, but the RTV issues are still not solved, which means you will need to spend another budget to fix the RTV issue
I have a 22 in black would like to add the breaks from this model
Weird why they haven't thought of making a break/estate or a pickup/Ute version for that lucrative business tax market.
Toyota please put that bmw 2l turbo from the supra. This is no longer stepping on toes of its big brother 4 banger supra.
Nice reporting.
I'd get one if it had a Toyota inline 4
Now if we can get Mazda to offer BRG on a special edition MX-5!
Lol she clocked in and clocked out
It was only supposed to be a quick one-take overview. Gotta be succinct when you've got 10 minutes with a car. Hopefully Toyota will give us more time in the near future to drive it.
Needs a moon roof or hard top convertible edition
I find the dealer markup on cars to be just insulting. There is no car that I'd pay those huge fees for. And few dealers that I'd return to if they tried pulling that shit on me.
Love this little coupe. What happened to confident on camera journalist?
Better off foing with the base model with an performance package. It wont be marked up as much as the the special editions and theres more out there to choose from.
That just might be the perfect car in every way.
What is the long term reliability of GR86???
They are fine. A limited number have had oil pressure issues on track.
wow
Your kbb and you didn’t even give a price?
The only thing people want is more power and its the only thing they won't do.
Only TikTok kids who have never touched a car want more power. Wanna go fast? Go buy a Tesla, this is for having fun.
@@Bmontepeque11 ??? Are you nuts? Supra, Z, Corvette, Mustang, etc etc. Yes it's a light weight sports car and great as it is but since day one people have asked for a turbo model. You can have more than one trim level you know.
@@SSS-mp8th turbo it yourself, would run you about 10k. Leave NA RWD manual cars to people who like them. There is a reason why boxster/cayman with turbo 4 are not as in demand as NA 6.
You buy this for the handling which would be ruined with more weight on the nose of the car. I'm willing to bet you haven't driven it. It's quick enough for sure.
They should partner with bmw. The engine and transmission would both be way better
That's called a Supra and believe it or not this GR86 walks all over the Supra in the corners.
Eddie bauer version...I think the color is awful and doesn't fit the car appropriately.
So no major changes from 2022 to 2024 😂. Minor changes but not significant
Wish had a sunroof
Give them more power. At least 270-300 hp, not whp btw
They have roughly 240 crank horsepower from factory. You could probably get another 15-30hp if you did full exhaust and tune.
I miss the Scions
They were literally no different than just the badging. And actually if you didn’t know it was only the FRS in the US market everywhere else it was the GT86 when it came out in 2013.
Celica?
Looks good, but not a fan of the Honda Civic looking tail lights.
Break !!!
Is this a Japanese Mustang Camaro
the shift knob is the manual transmission ig lol
Basically...nothing changed and nothing exciting. 🤣
Not a ton, no. But that color!
@@kbb That color is okay, not the best or worst. 💯
@@TH-1988 neptune 2.0 is dropped, the green is replacing it for 2025. it's already dropped from 2025 Japan site, and green took its spot. will probably reflect in use site once updates 2025 on there
I need ❤️🔥
It's not a "blue green," and it's definitely not "teal." It's a British Racing Green.
Nope. BRG is a darker green that almost goes to black in certain light. Remember green is made up of yellow and blue so she's not wrong, there is some blueish tint in there but yeah it's not quite teal either.
I really think if you see it in person you’d see what she’s talking about. No camera’s white balance and TV screen or phone can display the color as properly as real life. ijs.
It's a very different green than British Racing. In person it's tough to describe but there is noticeable blue in it. Gorgeous whatever you call it.
She doesn't "know" what she is talking about.
After so many years of upgrades but yet still refuse to add a turbo, really disappointed, maybe should wait for the "Sillycar", I heard it is turbo charged.
Oh shut up it’s doesn’t need turbo
I love the car, but I definitely don’t like that color green, maybe lime green would be better!😂
Gross.
toyoda subaru crap Subaru designs and builds the 2.4-liter, four-cylinder, horizontally-opposed boxer engine for the Toyota GR86. The engine is called the FA20D and has a Toyota engine code.
It's the same car as last year😑 they need to change the interior!
2025 cmon Toyota where’s the upgrade this style design is obsolete
Kbb sucks, don't know anything bout cars
its such a waste with a very underpowered engine... it looks fast but too slow IRL
Three seconds ago!
nothing is wrong with this car that a turbo and 250 hp wouldn't fix.
It already has 250 hp, any and all dynos confim that, and a turbo? Nothing shall ruin natural aspiration, you want a turbo there is the GR Corolla and GR Supra 2.0 for that, this is better in some regards because it's Naturally Aspirated.
Over priced unreliable pos. Miata is the answer. If not tracking this would be fun/fin with an auto but still over priced
Miata is even more expensive (at least the highest spec/trim) & it’s slower. Not to mention it looks hella feminine lol. I’ll give it the reliability point tho.
@@CarsOverPeople yes it more expensive cuz ur buying quality, feminine? I wouldnt say that but even so i rather that with beautiful aluminum parts underneath then the other one that doesn’t know what it is is it a Toyota? Is it a Subaru with stamp Steel arms
Was hoping the green would be nicer, like evergreen. This colour aint it. Would defs repaint to a better green lol
Same weak engine. No thanks
Have you driven it?
Taillights from a civic. So it’s a Toyota Civic
Looks very ugly just like the Bronze edition of the Highlander which nobody bought. Toyota never learns.
So they did nothing gotcha
garbage
All you talk about is the color. Are you full of ship. They changed a shock at thats new? Im canceling my subscription, f yall
BYE! 👋