After installing a rebuilt motor and after 20klms having this issue I really hate this car.. but I secretly love it that's why I've spent so frucken much bringing it back to life😢😭
Also, you have to be careful when removing that balancer because that timing piece is not actually connected to the crank. It’s the same thing as the balancer on the other side of it so if you’re not careful, it can come off and then you’re doing an entire timing set. Which is a nightmare.
There is a lot of vibration on those engines, my other thought could be, the balance shafts may be going bad, and excessive vibration is generated reflected on the lower timing cover making it so slightly vibrate. Is similar to what you are saying about the crank pulley vibrating, but backwards. Or maybe is from chain vibration reflected on the cover, weak cheap metal causing it to vibrate messing up the seal. I had a spare lower timing chain cover, IMO, part of the problem is the area around the seal has a lip, and to me, oil collects/bowls up and after a while starts to leak. The only way oil pours out of the seal area is when the lip overfills with oil, but it will always have a bowl of oil in the bottom area. The lip is there to prevent the soil to go through, but if the lower area is dremmel just about right to let oil drain down into the oil pan, oil pump hole.
So that harmonic balancer can only go back on one way properly the little ribs in the back there’s one big one on the balancer and a receiver groove on the lower timing gear piece
Your engine risks coming out of time when you remove the crank bolt for a moderate period of time. VW makes a donut hold tool to reinsert the crank bolt. Since you don’t have access to the seal otherwise the play is to replace the entire lower cover which will come with a new gasket.
Common sense would tell you, it's gonna have zero tension partially before"special tool installation", so it's fine for a finite amount of time until it's serviced. This engine still operates perfectly and you see it running after replacement. Why would you even post this comment? I honestly think alot of you are dumb
Hey man, I hear the frustration, but legitimately that is actually an issue with that approach - and the good VW tech channels on here will point out that issue. If your response is just to call your commenters dumb that’s kinda sad, cause it just means you’re talking a thin-skinned approach to people who point out something valid.
@@michaeldittmer5065 I don't appeal to authority, if this was the case you wouldn't be watching my video and I wouldn't be making videos... 2ndly... Re-read your comment, you reduced yourself because of my abilities to respond to comments😂. Yes, I called you dumb because of your lack of common sense. Why don't you make videos vs looking at others. Just be happy I wanted to respond. And remember... You came to my channel and not the other way around. So yeah.. I'll be a dick this is a paid hobby bro
@@partsshooter Wow, he was just pointing something out... and he’s also absolutely right. The gear can get dislodged if left for too long without that donut. Doesn’t take much too knock it out of alignment. The idea of the donut tool is that you limit the chances of the gear popping off by leaving it unsecured for the least amount of time possible. I mean, he said that in the most respectful way possible, and you just jumped down his damn throat.
@@partsshooter What a shitty attitude. I don't see that too much on Theese type of channels. The Michael's comment is right and helpful. Not saying your video isn't, but your reaction to his useful comment is unbelievable.
The misfires are probably from the oil leak losing pressure like when you remove the oil cap while its running... I replaced the timing cover and used the seal that came in it and its leaking, running like schitt. I learned to always use the factory style seal.
The one thing I dislike about the CC is the lug bolts rather than lug nuts. If I had known that I probably would not have bought the car. It is difficult getting that tire back on the vehicle.
I'm changing out a front seal on a 2012 Tiguan same exact engine as in your video. I wasn't sure where to use the RTV that it comes with? I ordered the same seal you used.@@partsshooter
My 1.8 tsi had full lower timing cover replaced including oil seal and upper timing cover seal replaced . Still after couple of miles it started to leak again.
The hub at the Harmonic balancer can develop a groove over the years. Seal can leak as a result even after having new seal. Clean area and check recheck. Also check your pcv system
@@partsshooter The weird part is that engine has only 56K miles and recently got engine rebuild to fix high oil consumption . PVC had replaced about 5k miles ago.
@UncleSamGR I understand. Just never overlook it because it's new or low mileage. Diagnosing is repetitive, same steps to identify causation in underlying cause.
Noooo. Good video mate but nobody crap not a metal hammer...oh noo then the rattle gun tighten🤦. I really like the video man but there's 2 huge mistakes imo
I cant get the balancer to stop wobbling when i install it and ive done it 3 times and installed a different balancer as well… im so done with this pce of shit!!
@@partsshooter i know that, but every time i torque it down with the counterhold tool, the tool tends to pop out of place and i think thats where it goes wrong.. im just going to get an impact gun… i see everyone doing it without problems
@@partsshooter ok thanks man. I drive this car pretty hard, maybe its getting into red line 7K RPM too often messing up the front main seal lol. Running a K04 tune. That sucks man about the turbo? What failed?
@@JH-sc7cs code pertaining underboost condition. Currently it drives like a n/a car till I find another turbo. Car still eats lots of oil but no more misfires! Or external oil leaks I gave you incorrect info regarding when I replaced it, but it's been slightly over 1yr. The rockauto turbo we got only had 1 yr warranty. I'll likely get a ebay used one. I been having allot of issues with new aftermarket parts local and from rockauto lately, hell even USED from my normal distributor!
Interesting... Prices vary base on demographic and perks with service. Hell, call the same part store but different parts of the city, prices can vary 😆. Hopefully you got more than what you think you got
Your comment, God I hate this Car, was exactly what came out of my mouth when working on my wife’s 2014 Passat this week.
After installing a rebuilt motor and after 20klms having this issue I really hate this car.. but I secretly love it that's why I've spent so frucken much bringing it back to life😢😭
@@brettleonard8602 mine sitting in the driveway right now, asleep or should I say disabled 😂
@englishguy1985 fun when its going expensive when it's not.. like a female only cheaper overall.
Also, you have to be careful when removing that balancer because that timing piece is not actually connected to the crank. It’s the same thing as the balancer on the other side of it so if you’re not careful, it can come off and then you’re doing an entire timing set. Which is a nightmare.
This just happened to me. I have to come in tomorrow and basically do a timing job now. How can I make sure it stays on?
@@23for82bigsthey make a special tool
There is a lot of vibration on those engines, my other thought could be, the balance shafts may be going bad, and excessive vibration is generated reflected on the lower timing cover making it so slightly vibrate. Is similar to what you are saying about the crank pulley vibrating, but backwards. Or maybe is from chain vibration reflected on the cover, weak cheap metal causing it to vibrate messing up the seal.
I had a spare lower timing chain cover, IMO, part of the problem is the area around the seal has a lip, and to me, oil collects/bowls up and after a while starts to leak. The only way oil pours out of the seal area is when the lip overfills with oil, but it will always have a bowl of oil in the bottom area. The lip is there to prevent the soil to go through, but if the lower area is dremmel just about right to let oil drain down into the oil pan, oil pump hole.
Mine runs like a top, no vibration, nothing
Good job man and you kept me entertained
So that harmonic balancer can only go back on one way properly the little ribs in the back there’s one big one on the balancer and a receiver groove on the lower timing gear piece
Your engine risks coming out of time when you remove the crank bolt for a moderate period of time. VW makes a donut hold tool to reinsert the crank bolt. Since you don’t have access to the seal otherwise the play is to replace the entire lower cover which will come with a new gasket.
Common sense would tell you, it's gonna have zero tension partially before"special tool installation", so it's fine for a finite amount of time until it's serviced. This engine still operates perfectly and you see it running after replacement. Why would you even post this comment?
I honestly think alot of you are dumb
Hey man, I hear the frustration, but legitimately that is actually an issue with that approach - and the good VW tech channels on here will point out that issue. If your response is just to call your commenters dumb that’s kinda sad, cause it just means you’re talking a thin-skinned approach to people who point out something valid.
@@michaeldittmer5065 I don't appeal to authority, if this was the case you wouldn't be watching my video and I wouldn't be making videos... 2ndly... Re-read your comment, you reduced yourself because of my abilities to respond to comments😂.
Yes, I called you dumb because of your lack of common sense. Why don't you make videos vs looking at others. Just be happy I wanted to respond. And remember... You came to my channel and not the other way around. So yeah.. I'll be a dick this is a paid hobby bro
@@partsshooter Wow, he was just pointing something out... and he’s also absolutely right. The gear can get dislodged if left for too long without that donut. Doesn’t take much too knock it out of alignment. The idea of the donut tool is that you limit the chances of the gear popping off by leaving it unsecured for the least amount of time possible. I mean, he said that in the most respectful way possible, and you just jumped down his damn throat.
@@partsshooter What a shitty attitude. I don't see that too much on Theese type of channels. The Michael's comment is right and helpful. Not saying your video isn't, but your reaction to his useful comment is unbelievable.
And didn't skip timing
Lucky guy
Someone has definitely been in there before two. Probably to do the timing chain tensioner recall.
The misfires are probably from the oil leak losing pressure like when you remove the oil cap while its running... I replaced the timing cover and used the seal that came in it and its leaking, running like schitt. I learned to always use the factory style seal.
Misfire was a broken rocker arm
Caused by a broken rocker arm
That would suck
Jumped timing 😂
Yea very nice man!!! Thanx for help
Tanks for the vídeo.
Nice job thanks for your video
The one thing I dislike about the CC is the lug bolts rather than lug nuts. If I had known that I probably would not have bought the car. It is difficult getting that tire back on the vehicle.
Lol...ig that's all it take to not buy a car, I can't imagine what you'll do if a car came without cupholdes then😂😂
You can buy dowels to male it easier to install a wheel.
Very hopeful thanks for the vid, also, have you done the rear main seal???
No. Just had to change the turbo last month. Lady cars here now for brakes, runs great, no oil leaks
What type of grease did you use for the new seal? Thanks for Video
If it was red, just wheel bearing grease. Something to initially lube the seal till oil reach
I'm changing out a front seal on a 2012 Tiguan same exact engine as in your video. I wasn't sure where to use the RTV that it comes with? I ordered the same seal you used.@@partsshooter
My 1.8 tsi had full lower timing cover replaced including oil seal and upper timing cover seal replaced . Still after couple of miles it started to leak again.
The hub at the Harmonic balancer can develop a groove over the years. Seal can leak as a result even after having new seal. Clean area and check recheck.
Also check your pcv system
@@partsshooter The weird part is that engine has only 56K miles and recently got engine rebuild to fix high oil consumption . PVC had replaced about 5k miles ago.
@UncleSamGR I understand. Just never overlook it because it's new or low mileage. Diagnosing is repetitive, same steps to identify causation in underlying cause.
Would this be the same for a mk5 jetta 1.9tdi
Honestly... I don't know -I'm no Volkswagen guy. I'd imagine if the part numbers cross reference, it would be
Very helpful
Noooo. Good video mate but nobody crap not a metal hammer...oh noo then the rattle gun tighten🤦. I really like the video man but there's 2 huge mistakes imo
I gotcha... but ahh, there's a 3yr update on this car in my archive and it never came back for oil leak for this repair. The method is fine
it is 2011?
Yeah u went step by step not alot of RUclips don't do that
Rule of thumb, if ya gonna work on cars, use the proper tools.
I cant get the balancer to stop wobbling when i install it and ive done it 3 times and installed a different balancer as well… im so done with this pce of shit!!
It's keyed but with triangulated cavities. It need to sit in its appropriate groove
@@partsshooter i know that, but every time i torque it down with the counterhold tool, the tool tends to pop out of place and i think thats where it goes wrong.. im just going to get an impact gun… i see everyone doing it without problems
It's necessary to drip all the engine oil before to do?
Good👍👍👍
Did it ever leak again ??
No! It has to come back for intake cleaning, I'll update.
Apologies for late response. Because RUclips doesn't notify me for ALL COMMENTS
@@partsshooter still holding up aite? I'm having nothing but troubles with my front main seals, they keep failing (2 in one year)
@@JH-sc7cs yes still is! I have to do an oil change on it next couple weeks. It currently need another turbo😑 just installed one back in March
@@partsshooter ok thanks man. I drive this car pretty hard, maybe its getting into red line 7K RPM too often messing up the front main seal lol. Running a K04 tune. That sucks man about the turbo? What failed?
@@JH-sc7cs code pertaining underboost condition. Currently it drives like a n/a car till I find another turbo. Car still eats lots of oil but no more misfires! Or external oil leaks
I gave you incorrect info regarding when I replaced it, but it's been slightly over 1yr. The rockauto turbo we got only had 1 yr warranty. I'll likely get a ebay used one. I been having allot of issues with new aftermarket parts local and from rockauto lately, hell even USED from my normal distributor!
God I hate these cars
Now the timing chain tensioner plunger moved out, now when you reinstall the main chain will be too tight
Explain...
Someone charged me $400 to do this
Interesting... Prices vary base on demographic and perks with service.
Hell, call the same part store but different parts of the city, prices can vary 😆.
Hopefully you got more than what you think you got
That's cheap
Oh my God, you are not playing on that without the boat being back in it please no 😂
Prying
Bolt* man speech to text is really getting bad on this phone