BMW 118i Reluctor Ring Replacement Fault Code 5DB1
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2018
- BMW reluctor ring replacement fault code 5DB1
Hey everybody, Igor here from cars exposed thanks for tuning in, i will be uploading videos here every week exposing cars issues, CAR repairs, CAR projects and more... stay tuned !!!
This is a follow up video, in my previous video i temporarily fixed a reluctor ring issue if you haven't seen it please check it out i will leave a link below. Talking to Grandad he suggested to actually make a video showing how to replace the reluctor ring and when Grandad says something you have to listen, at least in my book lol ...
I hope this video can help someone out there, the job was actually quite easy and cost me £3.99 for each ring, i will leave an Amazon link bellow ... cheers
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Please people, after you have cleaned the drive shaft surface, protect it with a light grease, and then heat the reluctor ring in the oven for 20-30 mins at 180C, then it will just slip on with no hammering (or damage) needed. Please wear gloves and use tongs or similar, as the reluctor ring will be hot when removed from the oven.
Thanks for this. For anyone watching i found it easier to unbolt and hang the brake caliper to get clearance for removing and refitting the shaft on my e88.
Heat the ring a little not to turn it blue in coulour but just a little and it will slide easier. Nice video , thnk's
brilliant Igor, thank you for sharing - beats £450 a corner from main dealer.....
Very good Igor!
For the lights warning, make sure that the plates that make contact on the bulbs are clean...
Otherwise it might be ok on higher voltages, like the 12 volts when the lights are turned on, but creates an issue/resistance when the module does the check, as it does it by sending a much lower voltage through the circuit... Alternatively, you can code the check of the lights off... better that than replace the footwell module... in case that is the issue...
Oh man that’s fantastic Luis, thx for the advise, I went and check the bulbs just to find out they were all working, I was wondering what the hell was going on lol , thanks I really appreciate it, I’ll check the contacts tomorrow !!! 👍
Good Job! Got the same issue on my e91. Thanks for the great explanation. Greetings from Germany!
p4ran0idone Really cool I was in Hamburg, Hannover and Wolfsburg last year had a really nice time, thx mate I hope the video helps and don’t forget to subscribe for future content cheers 👍
Iam on with this right now . BMW quoted £700 for new half shaft as they said you have to buy the whole thing
£8 for the ring from a car factor
Nice one 👍thanks for putting this video up
Resulst mate ... cheers 👍👍👍
Did this today. Ended up replacing whole drive shaft but great guide. Cheers!
Excellent probably the way to go to be honest mate 👍👍👍
Excellent job! I really like your videos .
Great vid mate just bought an e90 with the same issue, dash lit up like Christmas morning . I like your methods ,you just gotta make do with what you got . Respect 😉
Cheers Mick 👍👍👍👍
Great video. Thanks for your time and effort.
great video 👍 and great camera work too 😁
Real nice, been having problem with mine, now i know what to do, thank you!!
Daniel Sandin thanks mate I appreciate that, really common problem, make sure to watch the first video too ruclips.net/video/g3e4ESwenMM/видео.html 👍
@@CarsExposed Will do, thanks mate!
hey bro.
just for a hint, if u change ur ABs ring at the next time, put the new ring to boiling water for get a little bigger size, and fast put it to the hub.:) usualy the maintenance guys use flame or gas heater but that method is help to the rust. nice video:)
T. Richard thanks for the tip mate I never thought of that... 👍👍👍cheers
Great job.
Definitely subbed
Thank you very much for this Video. It is helpful as i face the same problem on a e90. May be it will be helpful to heaten the Ring so it gets a little bit wider and it will be more easy to put on.
Great video !
Awesome very helpful thank you!
peaky1983 cheers mate 👍👍👍
Thanks for this. Good video
Luke Smith thanks Bud, I’m glad the vid helped cheers 👍
Thanks a lot mate. Greetings from Germany
Thanks mate ... Germany cool 👍👍👍👍
I got one of them old red screwdrivers it’s amazing how strong they are as a pry bar
Simple, I like your way mate
Dan Marcu cheers mate I appreciate it 👍👍👍
Good clear video. Only wish I'd seen it before having new driveshafts fitted!
Thanks mate I appreciate it... it’s a shame it could be a cheap fix but look on the bright side everything is new and should last a long time 👍👍👍
Id sooner replace the shafts they are not that expensive.
Brilliant run through cheers! Any tips for getting a seized on driveshaft off? I’ve given it so much welly but it won’t budge at all. Seized into the hub I mean
Yeah. Why I'm here? My one 320d 2011. You lucky man❗ While I watched I closed may eyes ten times. I told you stick that screwdriver into your hand😨😰😱. But I told I will have to strip whole suspension so 🥳👍. As a thanks. Google knows all the torques for different nuts and threads. Otherwise is no point to use torque wrench. 😉 I hope I will not stick any tool in to myself tomorrow 🤣
how did it go 👍
Legend👍👍👍
i work in a garage and have changed complete driveshaft ,and use an air hammer to remove shaft from hub good video
Thanks mate I love to have an air hammer but my compressor it’s too small , this BMW’s driveshaft are normally seized up in place very difficult to remove it 👍👍👍👍 cheers
How long roughly does it take to change a whole complete new drive shaft? I’m replacing both of mine, thanks
Did you remove the ABS sensor before you took out the Axle? Thanks for awzm vid
Proper job!
Oosterhout’s Finest thanks mate 👍👍👍
thx dude
One question please: Is it necessary to sink down the exhaust pipe to get the drive shaft out ?
Dziekuje super
Goed job
I've bought two rings for my E90 inner dia. 79 and outer 83. 48 slots. Can you please confirm if dimensions were same for yours, as well. I learned should be same for 1 or 3. TY.
THNXS MAX!
cheers mate 👍👍👍👍
Good job
LOADING CC TECH thanks mate 👍
Very nice... I'll have to see if the rings are available in North America (pretty sure I might run into this issue in the future).
Hi Thomas here in Uk seems to be a really common problem with the wet weather and salt, this was a really cheap fix and didn’t take much longer than replacing the drive shaft ... the cost difference wow drive shaft £420 plus, reluctor ring £3.99.... 👍 see you soon cheers
Im struggling to get the e12 bolts off the drive shaft, what are people using?
Gutes wideo.Danke,ich wolte was fragen bitte.Die befestigung schrauben ist nötig erneuern,oder alte schrauben wieder verwenden?Und Wen alles fertig ist Rostschutz verwenden stört die Raddrehzahlsensören.?
Hi there .. what sound was you getting from the ring rubbing. Cheers
I bought it on Amazon I left a link in the description cheers 👍
Please make a foot well module video. This is what i am having an issue with
Very nice sir,my e46 330cd 2004 coupé. Triangle shows in dashboard and no power..it’s time now to change the reluctor ring at rear.not sure if left or right..nice videos
jo calibus 👍👍👍
My local garage charged me £350 to do both. Not excessive judging on this.
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Nice video. But does it improve the power? Mine needs a new reluctor and sensor but is that the reason I’m lacking power? Doesn’t do well in high gears. Also do you know if a e81 n47 116d has a turbo? Thanks bro
Dean Ndiweni thanks mate, it does affect power in the sense of the car bogging down every time that the traction control light comes on... it does have a turbo bud cheers I hope it helps 👍👍👍
jointing torque should be 145Nm + 45 degree
TKSSS !
Cheers mate
Useful video. .
What is the reluctor ring? And what purpose does it serve?
Did you notice any symptoms with performance before replacing it?
Your car will hesitate and you should have warning lights
The car "counts" the revolutions of the wheel from this ring by magnetic pulses. Both the ABS and DCS system in your car uses it.
Nice job , how long did it take you to do the job ?
couple of hours also
Halfway through this job myself. I've disconnect the diff side and have It resting on top of the diff as you did. But I just can't get the wheel side, I'm short about 1cm of room to get it out of the wheel bearing. Any tips?
Is it a 1 series that you are working on? Pushing the shaft up should be enough to remove it
You crasy man whay you do this . Make hot the ring on the fayer . Tha it goues esy on .😱😱😱😱😱😱
Does the ABS sensor read the RING or shaft through those holes ? Thanks!
read the ring 👍👍👍
Does faulty rings will cause the car to go on limp mode ?
Hey man, I have a 128i 09 and I am being told that I need a new axel (because of rust) and a wheel sensor. I was getting random traction readings until it came on completely following the break light and check engine. They want $1250 for the repair for one sensor and axel. I'm being told I have to replace the axel each time these sensor go out. Does this sound right?
No quite... but in some cases the drive axel cant be used because after you clean the rust its considerably worn down ... Most of the time you can use the same axle and the same abs sensor ...
Hello, how did you position that drive shaft to take it out? I'd doing the same job, but there is the exhaust, speed sensor and other stuff in the way....do i have to take all those off? please tell me how you did it. thank you
YC Y I explain it at minute 10:50
@@CarsExposed your seems to move out so easy, I don't know why, I can't wiggle that driver side axle out... too tight in every corner :( Had to remove 3 bottom control arm ==
YC Y yeah I just removed 1 bolt from the suspension arm and pulled it down with one hand and pushed the drive shaft through ... 👍
Hello,
Great video its given me the confidence to crack on with mine on the weekend but can you give me any tips on which wheel it maybe? I just get intermittent power loss with the traction control signal popping on and off... how did you find out which wheel it was? Thanks in advance!
Hello Shaun do you have access to a scanner that would be the easiest way to find out which wheel it is 👍
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I replaced both ring reluctors and after the car heats up, i still get intermitent power loss while driving above 50 km/h. Should I replace both abs sensors as they were scraped by the old rings?
Most likely left rear. Its 90% left rear on those bmws somehow
@@CarsExposed thank u Very much
HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT SIDE IS THE FAULT?.. WITH SCANNER?..
I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM... I NEED YOUR HELP BRO..
I had this problem suddenly airbag, and belt lights also turned on, any idea of why? It started with carly saying left front speed sensor was kaput, then i drove for a couple of weeks without traction control, abs and handbrake light. Suddenly i got airbag and seatbelt aswell
I would it’s a different issue ...
I got that when the speedo dropped to zero. Wouldn't reset until engine was switched off. Just kept pressing the traction control button and drove around with no stability control until I could replace this ring.
Just curious ... isn't it better to sand down the old ring or raise the sensor to give it more clearance?
Joe Goh Not really, it only going to get worse with the weather, the best repair is to get rid of all the rust and replace the reluctor ring... But I did temporarily fixed it before this video placing a washer behind the sensor raising it slightly ... ruclips.net/video/g3e4ESwenMM/видео.html
@@CarsExposed Got it! I have a F30. Just got the ABS, FTM System Error, and DTC "light show". I am hoping it's a faulty ABS wheel speed sensor..
Joe Goh does it drive ok ?
@UCRfF_E-wrIEzIxJNQL1SMcQ It actually drives ok. No loss of power and not jerky.
Joe Goh probably best to scan it and check for fault codes but very likely to be a abs sensor ...
Did you replace the wheel speed sensors mate?
No i didn't, i managed to replace the reluctor ring just in time before it damaged the sensor, the sensor was working fine...
Hiya i ve got a bmw 320d 2005 mine have a same problem i think may be sensor could u send me the sensor code i want to buy a new 1 plzz
kutta banda sorry mate, I didn’t replace the sensor, give bmw a call they will give you the code no problem 👍
Would this cause the traction light to come on and loose power /judder on the motorway?
I would say yes it could …
@@CarsExposed OK. Thanks. I'll check it out
Where did you buy the rings ? Beceause Bmw in Antwerpen ( BELGIUM ) told me they don’t sell only the rings..
Rob Vanwil autodoc
They do exist. Don't listen to authorized BMW dealer. Quoted a friend of mine 2300 euros to fix this problem. 😦🤬🤣
i bought it from amazon links in the description 👍👍👍
I currently have my traction light popping up every 5 minutes on my dashboard of my BMW E90 these past few days . I keep loosing power when it does that ???
Very likely an abs reluctor ring problem like in the video 👍
@@CarsExposed I managed to drive it to Leicester yesterday by putting the traction off and it drove fabulously with the light flashing occasionally without loosing any power . Notwithstanding I have booked an appointment on Tuesday to change the reluctor ring ??
Where is your garage in the U.K.?
did You have to change abs sensors as well??
No I didn’t
thanks for answer! i ordered rings as well as sensors just in case. the traction triangle started to flash even with dtc on
Having the same problem today on my 2007 3 series,fault code 5DB1
HOW DO You know is The problem with SCANNER?. I got the same problem But I Don't know if It is rear or Front Wheel?..
Is it a 30mm socket?
Good and helpful video btw🚗☺️
Yes it was... cheers mate I appreciate 👍
Cars Exposed thanks for fast reply 😄 ya i thought i heard something like that:D
Jhon Olav No worries 😉 👍
The abs lights went off on their own? No need to reset anything??
Yes, no need of scan tool to reset anything
Reassemble with grease or a WAX.
It prevents future corrosion.
We've done it for years 😎
Doesn't affect the magnetism or operation in any way
Dynax S50 is a top corrosion protector
Thanks man 👍👍👍
How many times do people think that they need to use an hammer to put on a reluctor ring......the way to do it is to heat it up in the oven or with a blow torch and it just slides on, when it cools it shrinks to a tight fit
Very helpful, thanks. But i would renew the whole driveshaft, since the rust might come back again. Otherwise well done. 👍😊
Thanks mate 👍👍👍
Renewing the whole driveshaft for the sake of the reluctor ring is horribly wasteful, in money and resources. A new driveshaft will rust at some point anyway. The only things I'd have done would be to prime (zinc primer) and paint the cv after the new reluctor is on it.
SkyWizardless totally agree mate I regretted not to have treated it with some anti rust protection for sure ... The car belongs to a good friend of mine and I know still going strong but it would have been better in the long run ... cheers 👍
SkyWizardless yeah wasteful is also your time. Time is money. For a short time is this way the best. But if you don’t wanna work on this driveshaft again, then renewing is the best option. And you still can sell your old one for some bugs.
@@repairtime If you are a professional (i.e. run your own garage) then I agree that time is money, but you can give your customers the choice. The driveshafts are pretty quick and easy to remove on these, so a repair is likely to cost substantially less than a new OE BMW driveshaft. If you choose a cheap aftermarket driveshaft you will undoubtedly be working on it again at some point.
For a car owner that does their own repairs the time-is-money argument doesn't apply.
Out of interest, since the original BMW driveshaft rusted and caused the reluctor ring to expand, why will a new BMW driveshaft not do the same thing eventually?
Did you get power loss when tracton triangle came on?
Yes ...
@@CarsExposed
The traction light comes on and off it doesnt stay constant when i do ecu check no fault codes come up ..
@@CarsExposed
Do you think it can be the ring ?
@@CarsExposed
Thanks a lot for your reply
Zorayr Zakaryan very likely ... have you tried to switch the traction control off ? If you turn it off and the car drives normally will be the reluctor ring but check the abs sensor as well 👍
200Nm plus 90° is way over 400Nm
I have a 400Nm Torque wrench and its only some degres more than 200Nm on these nuts.
Lukas Meyer thanks bud, I may have over tightened them a little bit... cheers mate
@@CarsExposed I will test how many degrees the difference is between 200 and 420Nm, most people only have a 200Nm wrench. I have to change 3 of these nuts in the next days. I used to have a 40-200Nm torque wrench, but now it killed itself. So i got a 5-50, 20-100 and 80-400Nm one.
Btw. thx for the video. I got a dirt cheap 2006 330xd. Xdrive is not working because one of the abs rings grew and killed the sensor. The previous owner tought it would be expensive to fix.
Lukas Meyer thanks mate cool... i got this 1series cheap for the same reason, result 👍, easy fix in the end tho, my friend got it and still going like a dream ... good luck with the repair mate 👍
So, it took 1/8 of a turn (45°) to get the 12 point axle nut on a E90 from 200Nm to 420Nm. I hope this will help somebody someday. I lubed the nut before installing, like BMW tells you to.
Btw. the car is working fine now. Needs new belt and tensioner, new top windshield gasket and bump stops on the rear shocks. Sadly the previous owner did not show up at safety check twice, so I cannot register the car without checking it first.
Cool, cheers for all the info sure it will help... 👍
Sounds like a nice project, have fun, it will be back on the road in no time cheers bud
12:26 Why do you use a torque wrench, if you did not stop at sound sing!!!?? :)
It’s hard to hear but I stopped at the torque wrench click 👍
@@CarsExposed Anyway, thanks you for tips, and for teaching us. 💪
So I've just had my car looked at as lights coming up on dash I understand that it is this problem in the video but garage saying I need both driveshafts replaced ?!?! Anyone here had same thing or am I getting ripped off
BMW garages are often telling people that it's a driveshaft replacement when it's just the reluctor ring 🤷♀️
It’s the driveshaft that is starting to corrode that it pushing the reluctor ring out so they’re not lying and replacing the driveshaft would be a more permanent solution but it’s up to you.
Guy plugged it in and it was sensor that was at fault. He looked at the rings and they seemed fine.
Stealership rip off artists
Where's your Jack stands? Using a Jack only is how people end up dead!
Harold The Almighty I’ve learned my lesson mate I don’t do that anymore 👍
My mechanic asked me £500 😡😡😡😡ffs
Absolutely not worth doing believe me
Few issues with the video.
1. Extensions. You wouldn't have to remove the wheel if you had the correct tools.
2. Did you use a jackstand under the car when you were underneath it, or just the jack?
3. Find the torque specs. There's a reason they publish them. Xmm + 90 degrees isn't correct.
4. Did you re-use the axle nut? Why?
jer0177 Hiya thanks for your comment ...
1. I’ve tried an extension off camera but the hub nut is very shallow and the socket kept slipping.
2. I know you can’t see it in the video but I did use a jack stand.
3. Unfortunately I couldn’t find any torque spec, and I don’t have anything like AutoData or Haynes manual but I agree I should.
4. I did reuse the same nut but I should have bought a new one you are right there.
It’s a learning curve this RUclips thing, I’m just a regular guy sharing my experiences in my driveway, it will be mistakes sometimes.
I appreciate your comment tho, I always thought that success is a bad teacher but mistakes and struggle make you humble... cheers 👍
Hi mate, I was wondering were could I find the spec for E82 ?