Daniel Defense H9 Review - 520 Rounds
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- Опубликовано: 29 янв 2024
- We put the Daniel Defense H9 through 520 rounds in a single range session. Bear witness to the first shot to the 520th shot as the Daniel Defense H9 performed without stoppages or malfunctions.
All opinions are that of the creator with the knowledge available at the time. There was no support provided from any company. All ammunition and firearms were privately purchased.
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That’s the most consistent ejection pattern I’ve seen on a handgun.
Really, my Ruger American 9mm, 10mm pistols, and few 1911 all eject consistent pattern. The Ruger American when doing movement drills. I’ll have several soccer ball size or better poles of brass. Standing still it piles up pretty consistently.
Everyone is hating on this gun but its an American made pistol, American designed and engineered. Im all about it. Maybe ill pick one up in the future
People that are hating on this gun are ignorant. I can understand hating on DD but the gun is very solid.
I haven’t heard anyone hating on the gun. So far, I’ve only heard glowing reports.
Most ive heard is complaining about the price and the weight, which is high on both accounts
People will always hate on what they can't obtain
I generally recommend renting and firing a pistol before you buy it. If that is not possible, I recommend putting hands on it to make sure your hands can reach the controls and that you like the trigger. Not all pistols have good aftermarket support to correct deficiencies in control reach or bad triggers. This is not an exception to those general recommendations.
My Daniel H9 delivered what was advertised. I have other guns that I like better. You might check it out and make sure you like it before ordering one on GB.
Glad to be onboard as a new subscriber.
Thanks for the review.
Once the hype does die down a bit, I am planning to add an H9 to my collection.
Thank you! Good idea...I recommend waiting until you can shoot or handle one. The trigger is shootable. I recommend renting one or at least handling one to make sure you're good with it first. Being a straight pull striker-fired pistol, it is different feeling.
Good review of the Daniel H9. I like the honest and blunt delivery. Keep it coming.
Blunt delivery...you should have me tell a funny story...it comes out like an incident report narrative!
Great review! Looking forward to more content from you.
Great stuff, man! Can’t wait to see what you do next!
Thank you!
Thanks for the review. Looking forward to more content.
This thing is ejecting brass into the next county I love it
Last gun wouldn't fully cycle so best believe they going to fix it
If you buy one you'll have to throw the thing into the next country to hurt someone, because of all the failures they are having😂
Appreciate the review; looking forward to more.
Thank you for your honest review. Something I am looking at!
I appreciate the review and you spending the ammo. So here is your Al Gore Rhythm engagement. Hell I'll even leave you a like. Keep up the good stuff!
Mine is already being replaced after 350 rounds. The ejector is extremely loose as well as the back strap. Then the trigger went from normal to about 10-12lbs. Accuracy was decent when the trigger didnt suck.
I really appreciate this comment. I heard the trigger pull was nasty. Now I have confirmed it with you. Thanks
My trigger actually feels better since all the parts wear in a bit. It is shootable. It is not great.
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Great review ! Amazing job. You sir are a wordsmith!👏👏👏👏 Subscribed!
Thanks for the sub!
Nice review, excellent points. Thank you for sharing
Glad it was helpful!
Love the concept of this gun and hope to try it sometime! 😊
The ejection pattern was amazingly consistent
I'm glad you appreciate that 👍
It made the brass cleanup easy!
I love this no-nonsense approach. Instantly subscribed. Keep it up! Yeah, I was looking at GB and nearly everyone is making this a bid war. I'll wait for the new car smell to settle down.
Thank you! Good idea...I got it through GB using the buy it now option before it went crazy.
Good review, thank you. Subscribed.
Thanks for the sub!
Thanks for a great review. I enjoyed the commentary and the range footage as I have one of these on order and am waiting impatiently for the notice from my local FFL. Looking forward to seeing how you feel about it once you got the red dot on there.
Please check out my other videos on my H9. I’ve got one that is ling with data and one that is just under two minutes (short version). I’ve got a stronger opinion there. I hope your pistol arrives soon and runs great!
I think I’ll wait a bit and see how it goes in about a year or so. Great video, thanks for sharing.
Same
Don't buy it,,
Thanks for the review. Subscribed.
You're welcome and thank you!
Was waiting on a 500 round review on this. Thank you
I'm glad it was helpful!
TFB TV did a burn down and it had issues shortly after 200 rounds and continued to add after that. Rattle Snake channel had issues about them as well.
Thank you for a good and honest review
Glad it was helpful!
great video, thank you and I enjoyed your candor. Very interested in seeing a 1,000 rd update and maybe even a 1,500 or 2,000 rd update. Especially once you add the RDS
Thank you!
I’m really hoping someone makes a good rmsc plate so I can put my green eps mrs on it. Making a slimline pistol and only having big dot plates was a poor decision imho
@@damonspinelli1352 I thought they were going to offer a plate for the smaller optics. I could be mistaken. All the mounting footprints drive me nuts. I'd welcome an industry standard (by choice not Gov't mandate) like we all settled on M-LOK. Can we just have a standard slide and a slim slide mount?! Then we could get rid of plates!
@@HollyrockFarm fully agree, and I’m sure they’ll offer more plates in the future. Unfortunately I’m still waiting on my plate for my scs320 I ordered two months ago. Been processed for 4 weeks and hasn’t shipped 🤦🏻♂️
I can’t wait to get my hands on one of these. Probably my favorite gun to come out of Shot Show this year. The Walther PDP SF 4” might rival the H9 for how much I want one, but the new SF Walthers are $1700 for the standard non-competition versions. Which is just over the top. The H9 is the kind of innovation we need in the gun market. Well-earned new subscriber!
Thank you! It is certainly different. In a world of polymer frame striker fired pistols different can be good. I'm amazed at how what is old is becoming new again. We're back to the 1911 with a refresh to being a double-stack 9mm. There are new lever actions coming. There were some new revolver offerings I saw coming out of SHOT...
I can say all that but Staccato still hasn't offered a reversible magazine release. I'm upset with Staccato for not complying with my demand for them to take my money and make me a reversible mag release for the CS!
Thanks for that. Interesting gun for sure. Subbed.👍🏻
Thank you!
I’d be very interested to see how this stacks up against the Archon Type B Gen 2. They are both competing for that low bore axis spot. I have been carrying the Archon Type B Gen 1 since and came out and love that gun. Nice review man! Thanks for doing it.
Interesting...That is a good idea for the project list.
Wow that's a pretty interesting carry gun! What do you think of the modular grip of the gen 2? Would it be useful to you?
@@DollyRanch I think it’s definitely an interesting idea. What I’d be most interested in is the ability to add an optic without sending my Gen 1 out to get milled. I don’t think the Gen 2 changed any internals.
@@DollyRanch I'm a fan of the chassis systems in pistols. The grip modules are a lot cheaper than having to buy a new gun as your concealment needs vary. My P365 has a Wilson Combat grip module.
Great review and very useful information. So impressed, I subscribed. I was happily surprised that it ran so well. I just don't need another 9mm right now, or I'd really consider it based on your testing.
Thank you! I've far surpassed "needing" another way of throwing a rock...until I want one...then I create a need...
Good shit brother! Keep at it and you will grow. My boy bishop told me to check you out. I’m a big gun guy as well so I’ll be checking out your content and sharing!
Thanks! Bishop is a good guy. I miss hanging out with him at the unit. I'll keep at it!
Thanks for the review.
You're welcome and thank you!
Got mine day 1 and have been loving it! Put about 400 rounds through and I had the issue where sometimes it would cycle and not go fully into battery. I think its because the recoil spring is tuned softly to reduce perceived recoil and also because the grip is so high, the slide would rub up and cut up my hand. Once I shifted my grip to get my thumb lower it runs fine. Cant wait to get my holster and see if the battery issue will be persistent in drawing.
I didn't have any issues that were not of my own making with my thumbs on the slide stop lever. If your gun has further issues, I'd send it back to DD. I hope your gun just needed a little breaking in and runs great from here on out.
Did my part, good luck with the channel!
Thank you!
Great review for what appears to be a great DD pistol. The technicians at Daniel told me the gun is manufactured to tight tolerances, to lube it (there are 18 lubrication points), and run 100 rounds through it for the break-in. My H9 arrives in a few days. They are quite difficult to find. As soon as they hit a store, they are gone. BTW: the only non-reengineered component in this Daniel H9 is the sear spring lever...that's it. There is no compatibility of parts for Hudson H9 owners...sorry guys.
Good review, interesting pistol.
Thank you!
Nice review! I rented one last weekend & ran 100 rds thru it. I loved it, but my only issue was lock back and FTF w/1 rnd left in the mag on every mag. I lubed it after the 2nd consecutive mag w/the same issue, but unfortunately it never went away. I'm told that could be an extractor tension issue, but again it was a rental gun, so who knows. I'm gonna give it another shot in a week or so because otherwise, this is a fantastic pistol that I really want to take home. 👍👍
Thankfully I didn't have any issues. I was concerned with it being a new release. I was relieved when it ate 520 rounds without a stoppage or malfunction. The failure for the slide to lock back on the empty mag was my thumbs being in the wrong place. I'm not used to having slide stop levers on the right side of the pistol. Southpaw issues...
@@HollyrockFarm Hahaha! I'm a Southpaw too, and this pistol looks like it was made for us!
Your accuracy is really good 😮🔥
Thank you! "I wouldn't worry about that little guy." I had a few of them...
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Great job. Keep going. Which pistol is Your favorite to shoot?
Thank you! My favorite pistol to shoot is easily my CZ Custom A01-C. It weighs a lot and the trigger is great. When I have a red dot mounted, it is almost cheating.
@@HollyrockFarm Nice. When You put full range review about IT?
That ejection, yo. Amazingly consistent.
It reminds me of an AK...seems like you've got projectiles in two directions!
Excellent video! Thanks for sharing. Would like to know why the revolver is your favorite 😃
Roger that…that will be inbound…
Check out my short for a partial reason… ruclips.net/user/shortsVSPsICdeeas?si=2NeobniKZhumGkWu
Great review! Can you give your impressions of recoil and muzzle rise. The latter appeared minimal.
The Winchester NATO and S&B ammunitions were a bit snappy. The commercial Sierra stuff was mild and very controllable. The low bore axis is a real thing and helps with the muzzle rise.
Thanks for the video and investment
You're welcome!
Nice video … just ordered mine from GB
Hope you enjoy it!
4:07 that ejection is like straight to outer space. Gun looks snappy but that return to zero seems fast.
The Winchester 9mm NATO and the S&B ammunition were snappy. The commercial spec Sierra ammunition was mild and very controllable.
The ejection is certainly positive…
i can speak from experience, if you dont lube it before the first shots, you will have malfunctions. I have the same opinions of the grip texture which ill probably end up changing . the trigger will be taking getting use to.
Fair assessment. I'm not sure when running a gun dry became the thing to do. The trigger is certainly different.
Hell yeah Brother!
Got mine the other day and ran a box of 200 with no issues gonna run some hp rounds through and make it my new edc when my holster comes in. Cant wait for more holster options for lights
I ran 120 rounds of the Sierra HP rounds…it ate them all! Hopefully your gun keeps running great! I hope Daniel Defense has a winner on their hands!
@@HollyrockFarm awesome to know!
I'm sure they do, if anyone has any true issues I'm confident dd will take care of them. First gun aside from the shadow 2 that beat expectations when it comes to the soft flat shooting claim!
@@RockinRackAgreed in the belief DD will make it right. if I didn’t trust Daniel Defense’s reputation, I’d have waited a few years like I do for other brands!
@@HollyrockFarm haha same here I wanted to hold off but found one in stock and figured it's now or wait a year to find another one in stock
@@RockinRackFACT!
Great review man. Thanks! As a fellow southpaw, did you have any issues with the high grip, other than the slide release? Seems like your thumb would get really close to the ejection port. However, that ejection pattern on the H9 is very consistent!
I didn't have any issues. Your experience may be different based on your grip and hand size. I wear large gloves if that helps for reference.
It seems holsters may be an issue for us. Philster Floodlight 2 might be an option if you plan on getting an H9. The southpaw gun struggles are real.
@@HollyrockFarm That's great to hear... and yeah the struggle's real lol I feel you. I've been considering this gun with the Floodlight2 and an Enigma believe it or not. You slamming a decent amount of rounds down range has really made me consider this setup more seriously. However, I'd have to wait, because there's no damn way I'm paying a penny over MSRP.
@@WarrenZevonFan I generally recommend renting and firing a pistol before you buy it. If that is not possible, I recommend putting hands on it to make sure your hands can reach the controls and that you like the trigger. Not all pistols have good aftermarket support to correct deficiencies in control reach or bad triggers. This is not an exception to those general recommendations.
My Daniel H9 delivered what was advertised. I have other guns that I like better. You might check it out and make sure you like it before ordering one on GB or some other "ship to your FFL" arrangement.
You did a decent job on the review not bad for the first time. Yes everyone is hating on this gun. Is it expensive yes. But I’m a DD fan boy. I need to do a little more research on this before I pull the trigger on it. I’m a 1911 guy. Thanks for making the video.
If you're a 1911 guy, you're likely a trigger snob. I've become a trigger snob. I recommend renting one or at least dry firing one before you buy it. It is a striker fire pistol with the straight back pull of a 1911. It is not a mediocre 1911 trigger. It is a mediocre striker fire trigger. I'll have another video with some questions to answers from the comments section coming soon.
Sounds good can’t wait. However I live in the anti gun state of Illinois. If I purchase this I can’t have fifteen round magazines. But I’ll be looking for those videos to come.
I’m a part of the OG Hudson H9 gang. Looking forward to picking up the DD H9. Keep the rounds going. Go 5K and check out the internals.
That might be a while...but it is a great suggestion!
Liked and subscribed
Thanks!
How is the slide to frame fit on yours? I just received mine and there is a good bit of play between slide and frame. I can shake it and hear a pretty good rattle. Barrel lockup is tight though when in battery, so I expect that accuracy will be fine, but was very curious how the slide to frame fit on other copies of this gun are.
Mine rattles as well but did it before I shot it. 325 rounds so far with zero issues tho. Mine is dead on from the factory when I benched it, despite the front sight being slightly to the left. I guess the manual is telling the truth when they say they zero them at 25y from the factory
Just shot it today. Like yours, it was very accurate. Rattle was reduced significantly with a loaded mag inserted as well.
Mine has some very noticeable rattle. I’m compiling these questions for a follow on video.
Great review. DD makes awesome rifles, and now it appears they have a homerun with the H9. I really like how slim the H9 is and low bore axis. Guess Im going to have to drop some coin and get one.
I recommend firing and/or handling one first. It is a different design with a different trigger. I suggest you make sure you like how it feels before you buy.
What does it measure for width at the grips? Good review
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Could you do an update on the trigger pull weight? I heard it is like 12 lbs. NASTY
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As both a CZ and 1911 nut myself I bought my AO1C based on a "chat conversation" we had months back. I rotate between my StaccatoC2, the A01C and my CZC SDP.
I love Daniel products as i own 3 of their rifles.
If you had to choose only 1 between the A01C and the H9 whats your pick?
I know, its like picking a favorite child....
The optics system on the A01C is less than perfect.
Come on now...that is not even a question. Daniel H9 or CZ Custom A01-C...Daniel who?
If Staccato ever made the magazine release reversible, I'd order one the same day I found out about it. I've emailed them about it. They say they don't have any plan on making it reversible.
@@HollyrockFarm
Yeah, STI has always been set in their ways.
I've not touched a new H9 yet, but I will.
I'm with you on the CZC products.
How does the trigger compare to your custom cz trigger?
What is the poundage?
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Did you buy that p365 off of someone on M4C? I sold one exactly like it hah.
Nope! I built it after falling into the QVO trap! At least it works well!
Well so far, it seems Daniel Defense has re-engineered it enough to not have all the issues the Hudson seemed to have. That's definitely good to see.
Only time and multiple samples will really tell how they did. I'm just happy I did not draw a lemon. Mine ran great! I hope as more time and reviews come out we find DD has a winner.
No issues with the ejector or the mag catch?
My pistol ran 520 rounds without any issues. I did not experience any issues with the ejector of magazine catch. I was resting my thumb on the slide stop lever causing the slide not to lock back on an empty magazine on two occasions.
Ordered mine Monday morning. Who knows when it will arrive? Up to 90 days is what they’ve told me. I did get 4 extra mags. Holsters are a problem. Unavailable for now even from DD. Till then it may be just a range gun. I am looking for a EDC though. Optics are changing so fast I may wait on that till I know more.
Vedder, Tier 1, T-Rex Arms, and Legacy Firearms Co. all said they were not and did not plan to offer holsters for the Daniel H9. I emailed them last week. I’m left handed so it becomes particularly difficult to find holster support. I used a Phlster Floodlight 2 and TLR-1 but found the feel from that thick a setup was not satisfactory.
How's it look with a light? Any issues with activation?
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Good 500+ round test. I think this is conducive to your sample of 1. It’s awesome that yours ran well; however, City Arsenal had a dead trigger on their 4th round and did not address it in their video. In addition, you mentioned other people having concerns in the break in period.
Taking a non-reliable pistol, repackaging it with DD’s name on it and rereleasing it doesn’t sit well with me. Will it be better than the original, possibly but only honest reviews like this one is the only way to find out.
I did two follow on videos. I wasn’t thrilled with the trigger. I sent it back to Daniel Defense. Hopefully it comes back with a better feeling trigger. If it doesn’t, it will go out on the broker.
@@HollyrockFarm I was extremely underwhelmed at the trigger too.
I to carry a P365 (for the last 4 years), and when I first achieved my Ohio CCL 15 years ago, my first carry piece was. S&W 638. So I get the love for the J-frame to an extent, but to take it over all the others you have(?), too each his own😉. Can't wait to rent a Daniel H9. Shoot flat as they claim?
It is flat with commercial spec ammunition. The NATO stuff was fairly snappy.
I have an irrational love for my S&W MP340. I even carry it with Buffalo Bore item 19i...it hurts to fire those rounds but they do great in gel.
Seems like a great gun to me. This version is compact & light enough to carry, but hang a light on it and maybe some brass grips, and it'll really just sit there and rip. And it'll be easy peasy for them to do an all steel match version.
If you'd have done that 520 round burn down in an Alien, you may have needed an oven mitt.
I've never handled the Lago Alien. Thankfully I had to load up the three magazines every 45 shots. It got warm on the thumbs...
It was failing to lock back on Colin Noirs video too.
I'm 99.9% certain my issue with the failure for the slide to lock open on an empty magazine was my thumb placement. I'm lefthanded and slide stop levers were never a problem because I never had them on the right side of the gun. I'm not sure if he was having a thumb placement problem or some other issue.
Colion did say he thought it was because he had his hands in the way
Is the target in Japan? Why is it blurred?
Also nice groupings w the fast fire 👍🏽and the ejection pattern is beautiful. Hadn’t noticed how consistent it was while shooting mine since I was in a booth at the time. But I had a couple hundred in the hood of my hoodie so I’d say mine wasn’t any different 😅
I guess the phone did not pickup everything in focus. We shot it using my iPhone 14 to try and get the video out as quickly as possible before people put money on a new gun.
I have a little over 800 downrange my h9. Flawless performance. Which was surprising because I did have the battery issues during dry firing with snap caps and cycling rounds from the mag. Also the slide not locking on empty. But when it came to live fire. None of those issues presented themselves. 700 fmj and 100 jhp’s give or take all a mixture of 115 and 124. Jhps were all 124. Only gripes are the cheap feeling mock grip safety beaver tail that bites the web of your hand and no rsmc plates for carry dots like my eps mrs. I’m sure someone will handle that down the road but that was a letdown. Otherwise DD did great bringing the Hudson concept back to life better and more reliable that the original.
I'm happy to hear your Daniel H9 worked well! The buyer's remorse when a new gun does not work well is terrible. I've found it is hard to regain confidence in a gun even after a trip to the factory. I did not mind the grip. My reservation is with the trigger. I think it is more like a mediocre striker fire than anything to do with a 1911. Full disclosure, I am a bit of a trigger snob.
@@HollyrockFarmI feel that completely. Pdp prolly has the best stock striker triggers I’ve handled. I’m a big 1911 guy myself. Got a really sweet custom Wilson cqb commander. Between that and my s2c’s sa, no striker could ever compare obv. And yeah thankfully I’ve only ever had that w a cheapy baby rock. But after a lot of work and some sweet 14rd para mags it seems to be sorted out. Thing would jam up every other jhp round everytime. But a 14+1 lil 45 albeit heavy is pretty nifty 🤷🏻♂️
@@damonspinelli1352 Those double stack 1911s in .45 were great when they ran. I used to have a Springfield Hi-Cap that would only eat ball rounds and not all that reliably. I ended up selling it. I wanted one or the Para-Ordinance 1445 LDA pistols but I was a young broke honest cop that couldn't afford one before they went out of production. I've not messed with the PDP. I may have to check them out.
@@HollyrockFarm yeah man I highly recommend. My mom got the pdp f and I was kinda poking fun at her. Then I tried it and the trigger is seriously amazing. Super crisp, nice reset. None of that normal spongy take up you feel on most striker triggers. I really want a SF Q4 later this year if I can swing it. Handled one and it was really well built.
Failure to go into battery in dry fire, and cutting the web of your hand is far from flawless,, I have the original H9 and Daniel Defense did a horrible job on this new piece of crap pistol. Truth.
The unfortunate reality of this gun is that DD makes it. We know DD is no a supporter of the 2A. It’s sad because I really like this gun and think it’s a very good option defense. But I would never buy from DD. They don’t support the consumers right to keep and bear arms.
There are a lot of companies that end up with their personnel making politically convenient statements in times of turmoil only to end up making their customers upset. I would think it would be in their own best interest to generally remain silent and stick to serving their customers rather than loosing an opinion to appease an opposition force. They end up with the same opposition force still after them and some angry former customers.
I really don’t like that they don’t just give you multiple optic plates like other companies do.
That would certainly help cut down the need for delayed gratification. No one really wants to get a new gun and wait a few days to set it up. Then again, I don't like having to wait for the thread locker to set before I get to run the gun with a newly installed red dot.
Looks like you’re not even firing the gun 🔥🔥 I don’t like the looks but if it shoots well I can’t deny that.
Thank you! I am neutral on the look. I thought the Hudson H9 was terrible looking. The Daniel H9 is different...it neither gives me the "fizz" (to quote @Wranglerstar) nor looks bad to me.
I would rent one.
Fact. That is good advice for any unfamiliar gun or gun family.
Mine runs like a top
I'm glad there is another good one out in the wild! I usually don't buy newly released guns. I've been burnt before and I don't like buyers remorse. Thankfully that was not the case with my gun!
You can't say there were no malfunctions when the slide fails to lock back ... 3:46
That was my fat thumb.
For the price and same accuracy I'll stick with my CZ .
Not a bad idea...I'm sure not getting rid of mine!
I wouldn't spend over msrp for this. People have lost their minds nowadays
Agreed. I think people lost their minds a long time ago!
Comment!
Thank you!🤣
So did not see you test for key hole issue which is pretty high on reports. This is a general stand in a spot yea it bangs review. Do some drills and push its limits. Also 1k rounds of 9mm is very doable for about $500 bucks. Any pistol I buy it goes minimum that number before cleaning. Yea if doing a channel might put a dent in. I would not be picking RUclips as your only source of uploading to. Maybe in a few years more to offer may be seen, but this was pretty generic test.
I stand and shoot maybe two mags to get a feel. After that I’m testing rapid shots, trigger technique potential, feel on the move, walking drills, and so on. Not to mention quite a few very well established channels putting a lot more behind the test and review. If you’re going to join the ring bring something to the table. I’m not getting paid to say cool vibes, just crash launch channel approach. Wish you luck as it’s a high bar on guntuber world these days.
My gun has been with Daniel Defense since 02/29/2024 for its second trip for warranty service. Today is 03/27/2024. Subscribe for part 4…
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Do a few takes until you nail down what the message is. I like listening to you, but need to present the info more compactly
Fair assessment! I will get better!
Mark your mags...
Always a good practice...