Right... is this woman really outspoken in this mans home when she has 2 adult daughters still living off of her and she can’t speak up in her own hone to get her ADULT children to help do chores or their own laundry?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’m in the damn twilight zone!!
Natasha Jackson oh please, Natasha, any amount of children to raise is difficult. And so many parents fail at even “raising” just one. you sound hateful and stupid.
Because we've been judged and bullied all our lives for being who we are. Everytime there's an alt family, see how the other family judge them so hard, then apply this to an everyday basis of people judging you for who you are. Well, it leads to being sensible, empathic and open minded.
Yes, most of the time. But the Mom on the episode with the pine nut farmers was very sweet and giving too. Actually, the mom's meeting on that episode was the most mutually kind hearted and honest conversation ever.
The Nelson family is awesome in everyway, shape and form; nothing wrong with being different vs the other family is lazy, rude and oh boy the dad is just a cave man.😱
The Nelson family (The rocker family😉) are from my town, Longview Washington. They are really nice people, their daughter Rachel is an awesome girl, and many folks around here go to their house and they just stop and talk to them. Complete strangers. They love to talk about their experience. They are really really nice people. TRULY💖
Rachel's parents are goddamn gold!! When her father said even though we eating ramen noodles and drinking coolaid it's worth it for our daughter!!😌👌🏾😩♥️ That's wtf I'm talking about
Aniyunwiya Ageya: It has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with the GodMan, the Lord Jesus Christ. He is the ONLY source of true joy and happiness, not to mention salvation. He is the only Savior of mankind, and there are millions of us who love Him very much and will not stand for His name ridiculed and used as a curse word. I sincerely hope that one day, you’ll realize the sacrifice He made to keep YOU out of Hell for all eternity and accept Him as your personal Savior. He loves you more than you could ever know. I also know you would never say what you said to me to a person who is Islamic and defending Mohammed.
I think the rocker dad is an amazing parent. They both are! They obviously did something right, and they have so much love putting everything into their daughter. It's the other mom who failed and needs the help, sadly.
Both need serious help..rocker dads very sick no color in his face at all..he needs a Doctor and some screening start with colonoscopy...hes sick...mentally and physically..
How dare that woman jump his ars about his daughter! Look at what a phenomenal job she's done raising her own lazy, broken, selfish and self centered children!
@@taffykins2745 They gave a interview after the show aired and said she has friends over a lot but they didn't want teenagers over during filming because all of the parents would have to sign a contract with the station because the kids would be minors. Plus those parents wouldn't have control over how the show depicted those kids. They added that Rachel had a boyfriend but same as above they didn't want a bunch of minors and their parents under contract with the show.
It always makes me so sad for the mom when their husband is like "this is a vacation for me" That's extremely rude you married her and most of the time she does all the work so what vacation? I just feel bad for the mom that watches the episode back and hears her husband talk about her that way.
Literally. He acts as if his life is so hard when I bet without a woman taking care of him he’d die. My roommates dad is exactly like this. Has a woman doing everything for him. And gets mad and complains when she asks him to do something, or she is too tired to please him. It’s so sad
Especially since she clearly cleans up behind his ungrateful a$$ so like what? What do you need a vacation from? The constant pampering with little to no backlash from the poor woman you treat like a slave?! He was so rude to Terry through the whole thing too, if that's how he talks to a stranger imagine how he treated his real wife on a regular basis. Unbelievable.
I relate to what she's saying though. Sometimes you don't want to be hurt by your kids saying no for the millionth time or have to wait while they say "in a minute, I'll do it later" etc... and the laundry sits in the basket for three days because they keep not putting it away. Anyway I'm sure she was under contract that she HAD to come up with something bad about the other family that needed changing in order to get her $50,000.
@@gurutruecrimeguru1405 Maybe it's because I don't relate to the extreme need for cleanliness that most have but I think I'd find a place to stow the dirty laundry and just let it pile up. Heck, if my kids started wearing it dirty I'd probably poor something washable onto it to make it less wearable so they'd be forced to wash it. Every time they refused to do something simple they'd get something harder to do. I say this as someone who doesn't have kids though, so maybe it's harder when you do, but I just can't imagine enabling ridiculous behavior from anyone.
"first thing I noticed was the flaming red hair" --- hahaha you know he wanted to hit that rocker chick UP. Also, before he said "I havent been away from her in 25 years, gonna treat this as a vacation"
im musical to and always se somethigndiff ach watch , im not close ith 1 freind of my spouses but th mother looks like eva, i never noticed how damn much the blonds husband looks like julie chases husband from that episode ps she's changed somwaht for the better ive found out
Doreen is just jealous. Despite being a rock family, their child is far more responsible and level headed. She has to go back to her good for nothing family.
@@gurutruecrimeguru1405 that sounds more likely because only 1 thing that she's saying is based in reality (that Rachel doesn't get a lot of social interaction). Rachel is far more independent and prepared for life than her daughters at that time.
Doreen is also from an older mind frame. To her, a girl needs to experience High School and go through the teenage motions. She was probably thinking, her children did and they're struggling - what would Rachel be prepared for?
@@nunyabuisness7552 I just want to say I am a millennial and have been with out a job for 3 month since age 11 (I'm almost 26) when I started washing dishes at a bar. I moved out at 15 and have always paid my own bill's. It's sad the laziness of most gives us a bad rep. There is still some hope. The newest generation is centennial, this started in 98 or 99
The mother didn't seem like she would put up with nonsense even if she'd gotten a tough kid, but it also seems like they lucked out a bit on their kid's personality. It's hard to tell how much is nature and how much is nurture, but their daughter seems to be a really quiet self motivated sort. There's no telling if having a mother who's constantly doing everything and a detached father would have ruined that.
honestly the boston dad grew so much it was impressive. its so easy to be in a family and get stuck into a routine so you dont even think about how the other person feels. it's admirable how he owned up to his mistakes and changed for the better, i feel like usually in this show the dad just stays cranky
Steven isn't getting enough credit for his turnaround for supporting Terry and confronting his own children. He was awesome! One of the most impressive parents on this show. Loved to see him in action and he wasn't half-baked about it either.
I'd be embarrassed to have my mommy doing my laundry & picking up after me, at 22. I get there are circumstances for them living at home, but to not help out with the housework is just plain laziness. It's also disrespectful to your mother. I was doing those things at 10, some before. What a couple of slackers.
Barbara - Last visit to my mother’s house she had things to do outside the house so I made dinner and the kitchen was spotless after I cooked the food I went out and bought with my money. Spilled on the floor while cooking so the entire floor got scrubbed. Show respect for your family home and show them they raised you right.
My goodness , that is such a great point ! I have been watching this story unfold and mid way it hit me and I told my husband “the rocker couple is actually still very much in love, you can tell, the Boston couple , quite the opposite “. The household in general felt way more loving ❤. And you’re right, they’re living their truth , the cherry on top.
Terry is exactly the type of person everyone needs in their life. She’s kind, caring, strong, fun and she pushes you to be the best version of yourself. Not because she wants to be mean, but because she truly cares. What a beautiful heart that woman has and I wish her nothing but success and happiness for her and her family.
@@gurutruecrimeguru1405 But did you notice when he saw his wife being upset and left the siting room he went and cleaned the dishes. I think both mom and dad knew at that moment they messed it up when it came to raising their kids. I hope they didn't let it go and the girls are doing well. As the other mom said its not to late.
She does seem to be extremely self motivated to go after what she wants. Parents who are used to be being very entangled with their kids may not get it, but I don't think she needs as much intense focus as a kid who is more low energy and needs to be pushed achieve so they can see how good it feels. The other kids seem to need a bit of that but aren't getting it.
50 thousand. The way doreen acted if i was in charge id put 10 grand for each of her 3 kids to get a car. 5 grand for each girl for finding their own apartment. 5 grand for the son to go to college. And 5 grand to go to a vaca for the family
The blonde mum is definitely projecting when she was criticising the homeschool girl. She's only acting like the isolation is a bad thing because she wishes her daughters were as responsible
The key is to negotiate with your adult kids as adults. That doesn't mean you don't treat them better than random strangers on the street. It just means you don't let them get away with anything that makes you angry at them. If you're constantly getting frustrated and and angry at your children for the part they play in your household then you suck at negotiating. You should feel like having them around makes the house a better place. If it doesn't, they're adults. They don't have to be around.
Maybe the exception to this would be if one is getting out of some abusive or exploitative situation and you need to be a rehab for 6 months or something. Maybe for a short time they'll not be able to contribute as much as they drain, but I still think that should be for a limited time. Part of becoming rehabilitated means they need to learn to contribute and make themselves valuable to the household.
This is a cultural thing BTW. Most cultures encourage their children to grow up and begin new families in the same home they were raised in. My husband is from Portugal. He moved out at 26 and into another family home that is now his. He is the 7th generation in this home. It’s their culture… Me being American, I moved out at 15.. paid my own college and bills and I have struggled most of my entire life, never able to have any assistance or healthcare.
Looks like Rachel was out in the real world socializing throughout the whole show…. Ballet class, joking with her and her parents friends, going to shows. Not like she just sat in the house all day needing a ride to BLOCK BUSTAAAAHHHHH 🤷🏽♀️
The mom whose 20 year old daughters who sleep all day and owe her thousands of dollars judging the daughter who is self motivated and committed is gold!
That man has lost his mind " you got to vacuum " !! He's not said one word to his grown ass daughters about cleaning ...not one word ! He treats his wife like a maid !! He comes home and does a walk through checking the house ??!!!!!! 😂😂
This lady is so wrong. If I could go back in time and trade hours spent with friends, doing typical teenager things (not always up to something good), for hours dedicating myself to a skill like Rachel has with ballet, I totally would. She is only missing out on distractions. I'm sure she grew up and made plenty of friends and has good times in adulthood.
I agree! Friends come and go but a skill you can live on and truly brings you joy, there's no words for that. She will thrive in her 20s,30s and up. If the pinnacle of your life was high-school era , gee that's sad.
God, all I did was get loaded and "hang out.". Now I'm finally getting into my career at 30 because I was such an ass hat growing up. Those times were awesome, but I dunno.. I think you might be right.
Jessie Scholes lmao saaaame. I wouldn’t trade my ass hat years for anything tho. I’ll be able to dedicate the rest of my life to my career but those moments I’ll never get back and I had some of the best memories of my life 🙏🏽💕🙌🏽 to ass hats!
If Rachel wanted to be tattooed, pierced, and home coming queen, her parents would have supported her every step of the way. She is who she is and she lives in HER comfort zone. Bravo! Her parents are also living their truths. Living....not sleeping their lives away.
This woman stills pisses me off to this day..How are you judging this man and his child..Meanwhile, you got grown ass adult kids who can't even get a paycheck without getting a ride from mommy. They don't even do housework.....So let's not talk about other people's families.
@1993 yes you are right, but I can't force them to save their soul. I do understand what you are saying though. They really are nice people. Pray for them. I will do that too. Much love ❣️
@@mokgadisdiary8420 I bet now Rachel is being successful in her dance make huge cash living on Mansions whole Doreen's daughter's are living off government assistance .
Hey. There's one point in favor of us older single guys. We may not be as pretty but we have no misconceptions about what's involved in the constant battle against dust and mold. On the down side, we're still men so most of us still have a higher disgust threshold than the average woman lol.
@@ZIbroweed My mate is my best friend. I don’t work but at least I keep things clean at home. He deserves to come home to a clean and supportive home. 👋
this episode has my favorite ending on the entire show. reality tv has never been the most subtle genre, so that quiet moment at the very end with Steve walking to the kitchen and doing the dishes, right after Doreen comments that she doesn't think her family is going to change, is so uplifting despite how small it is.
He hasn't done any rearing of her from what I can tell. She has been left to her own devices and it's very fortunate that she has chosen not to go off the deep end. She's following the only path she can find opposite her parents which is very subdued and introverted. I hope she finds a wonderful young man before she has to go it alone in a world she isn't remotely prepared for and gets walked on a dozen times because she's naive.
Silhouette0fDreams Some people are just naturally quiet and prefer quiet solitude. I don’t get it at all but I’ve had to accept it. Plus she looked like she was having a lot of fun at the show. She is getting exposed to all types of people. She probably meet more types than I did at that age because I stuck to what I knew.
@@nunyabuisness7552 sure, because every woman needs a young man to protect them from falling on their heads 🙄 I can't even understand why you think she isn't prepared for the world and needs a man for that.
Concerning the lonely part.... The parents gave a interview after the show aired and said Rachel usually has lots of friends over but since they are minors and if the show taped them all of their parents would have to be under contract with the show. Plus those parents wouldn't have control over how the show edited those kids. So I can fully understand that.
I think it's interesting to see them criticize certain things that just aren't inherently bad. Being homeschooled and in ballet isn't bad. Living at home past 20 isn't bad. They should have focused on the points that actually WERE bad, like not having a job, owing your parents money, not having a social life, not doing your share. Living at home past 20 is fine, being homeschooled is fine, ballet is fine, acting weird and "young" is fine.
@@taffykins2745 that's quite rude. You can present your own opinion respectfully. Resorting to "you must be really young" and "I don't think you get it" are both very condescending ways to disagree with someone while also not presenting any further information to the discussion. I am not young, and even if I were young, you wouldn't have changed my mind through replying the way you did, because you presented no information or reasoning other than insulting others.
@@JulesAskalotl Honey, I get so tired of explaining, sometimes it's best to pose the question rather than to educate. The question is implied. I see your response was what one could expect from a young person. Maybe instead of hating on me, you could ask yourself some different questions. Or maybe even ask the person you disagree with to elaborate. Who knows, it might be an eye opening dialogue next time. Have a nice day.
@@gurutruecrimeguru1405 I would consider it being rebellious if her rock and roll family didn't agree with her choice to choose ballet. I think they are great and supportive parents
My parents raised me to clean up after myself from an early age. At eight I was taking turns doing the dishes with my other siblings who were older because I was about tall enough to. I cleaned the bathroom every weekend and folded laundry, I was awarded an hour of game time (sometimes more). At 12 I started doing my own laundry and we all did chores around the house. Despite not being in the best position to do so I moved out at 18. Those three kids are spoiled brats who treat their mother in a way that we wouldn't treat mine (save for the couple who were a bit rude to her when they became teenagers). I would stay up every night my mum worked to make sure her bed was set and even readied the coffee pot for her, so she could easily have coffee in the morning. I didn't have an easy childhood but I was wise enough to see that my mum deserved and needed help, especially with how distant my father was with her.
@@randomnetfiend the definition of the meaning- studious. A studious person who love spending a lot of time studying and reading- *academic, bookish, book-loving, intellectual, thoughtful, serious
I love how the dad went from telling the mom to clean everything to at the end of the episode he’s cleaning the dishes. At least one of them had some growth from the experience
I thought the same thing. Doreen was beautiful and too see her just used and overweight prob from having kids and depression..probably not even allowed to take time for herself to walk or go to a gym, I went through that also...got so depressed that I stopped brushing my hair and teeth and gained weight after my fourth kid and a narcissist husband...it happens really subtle and even when you know it's happening you don't have the energy to change it until finally one day it's ether do or die.
FOR MOMS WHO DONT GET HOMESCHOOLING, I WAS FOR 8 YRS & I WENT TO NORMAL SCHOOL- I HATED NORMAL SCHOOL, HOMESCHOOL ALLOWS YOU TO DO WHAT YOU LOVE & YOU GET ONE CHILDHOOD TO TRY THINGS YOURE GOOD AT. ITS A WASTE TO SEND KIDS TO SIT FOR 8 HRS & LEARN BRAINWASHED GVT BS, THEY DONT EVEN TEACH CURSIVE
Jenna G. I can agree with this, I went to public school up until 10th grade and then I had enough. I decided to switch to home school and I had so much more time on my hands, I was able to work 12hr job, and do my school work.
Omgggg she left them money to pay off debt AND for school!! That’s honestly very thoughtful and she’s trying to get them to grow up! It says a lot when you’re handed that opportunity and complain about it
Yes. The only mistake is I feel like she should have stipulated that the money could only be payed on their debut to match payments they made themselves or something like that. Just paying off a portion of the debit is further enabling the bad behavior if it doesn't come with some kind of responsibility.
Rachel , she is not out doing normal teenage things ,, ok Boston mom ,, and your daughters are doing normal teenage things ,? like living off you and to lazy to get out of bed ,,, well I guess your right ,,,
Doreen let her girls do “normal teenage things” and now she has TWO lazy ass adult children living in her house. Suuuure I’ll take advice from you Doreen. You raised some real level headed, well adjusted girls 😂🤦♀️
Having ambition and a plan IS a regular teenager thing. Not all teens are the same. Just because her grown kids have no direction doesn't mean that all kids are that way. I think she is overwhelmed by being in a home that has that much drive and art in it. Big kudos to the rock n' roll parents for supporting their daughters dreams and not slowing down just because they are getting older. Age doesn't mean you have to quit your passions or enjoying life.
It makes me sad/angry that the daughters got mad with how the money was accoladed. Their mom works her ass off around the house so she of all people in that home deserves what she wants (it was so sweet seeing her get the money for her new kitchen). And btw, the government doesn’t totally pay for your school, it’s called student loans and you’d have to pay it off anyway.
If it had been one kid, that would be a different matter but if all three kids ended up the exact same kind of lazy, that's how they were raised. The mom and the dad share responsibility for that. The mom was a hardcore enabler and the dad appeared to be checked out at home (though both may have been played up by the producers there's probably some truth to both characterizations). The kids were absolutely horrible, but their parents raised them that way. They taught them that refusing to do things means that those things get done by someone else. That's a cruel thing to teach your kids because the real world will be a harsh re-educator, and who knows how much debt they'll be in when they finally learn how the world works if they ever do.
For a traditional mother to work properly you need a strong and engaged father. If she's all nurture and he's checked out there's no one to enforce discipline.
The Boston mom is so jealous she has to try and find something wrong with a productive, driven, disciplined young lady! Unlike her unproductive, rude, selfish, Children who are, to this day, probably living at home!
Sure, Rachel could be more social, but she's a wonderful kid, her parents are in love, and in love with life, they're happy and supportive of eachother. Hell, her father recognized how he was rude and apologized to Doreen even though Doreen was the one judging them. She definitely thought they were druggies or something with how she went "what you and ur wife went through and ur trying to shelter her from that world" UNDERHANDED istg
That oldest girl doesn't want to move out? So ungrateful to be upset about having money for her own place. Even if she doesn't want to move right off, at least she has it for when she does! That is a huge blessing. Also the money the others got for school is a huge blessing. Clearly they are all so immature and ungrateful!!
Yeah, I know, right!! I'd be so happy to have money to move into my own apartment! I live at home with my mom, I work. And I help Mom as much as I can.
I love the Rock n Roll Family. The cherry on top was the husband helping with the dishes. I’m glad he learned to appreciate his wife more. Hopefully the kids did also after watching themselves.😂
Christina Campbell feel bad for that blonde mom I think I see some of these but on cable channle hopped and didn't go back or I forget anyway I'm a musician mark is hot and I'm curious to see if he's less of a ditz then I remember him being rock on
to bad the red head couldn't stand up to the daughters and husband like she spoke to camera men she must have a hard time with confrontation with males
blond mom was a bit better but all she needed to add is Rachel is a great beautiful smart girl her mom couldn't seem to say the words ty to him at the bar not that she didn't appreciate his words she just didn't express thanks I'm a musician tho I don't do gigs often doreen is so strong and brave and it's not like an acoustic show it's hard core but this part she sings I'm starting to remember from my cable days she done so well
@@MrsSlocombesPuddyCat Also funny how they come out of the airport completely alone like they flew private and no other planes just landed. No one on the sidewalk. Just the person waiting and the person coming.
Me. I do wish the ads could be edited out. USA telly seems to have an ad every few minutes. I am trying to fast forward but keep missing bits - so yes reading the comments then.
Rachel's dad made a great point @1:00:36, that is true, she is projecting her own failure and worries. Having friends does not do same things for everyone.
What’s not to love about the Nelsons ❤️ I really enjoy the way they speak to each other’s and to their daughter, the dad has great respect for the role of her wife and kid, he’s a supporter, a provider and a caring person. I mostly loved that their daughter seems to really enjoy joining his dad, she does not act like a typical ten age who tends to be embarrassed or shy away from her parents. Love them.
Yeah, I think his "always on" vibe would wear me out. I'd definitely have to get away, but that's no hate coming from me. If it works for them then it works. No sense fixing what ain't broke. I just can't handle too much of people who need everything to be the most.
Definitely good role models for her as parents. She smiles genuinely when she’s with them. She’s a great kid who is mature and doesn’t even need micromanaging cuz she’s so responsible. Lovely family
If I got handed what I call "freedom money" for a down-payment on my own personal space AND money for school... WOW... I would not be on all the anti depressants I have to pay for that's for sure... I'd be so eternally grateful. Wtf is wrong with those kids
Such an 80s mum & dad, the rocker family, love them! I think Doreen is a tad jealous of how Rachel has been raised & doesn’t need to go off partying all the time, I’m sure she has friends & she goes out here & there, but they don’t show everything to us. My daughter is the same, we raised her & her siblings a similar way & they never cared much about going out, she’s now married, living over in USA, we r an Aussie family...I reckon that’s pretty courageous of her. Her brother has his career and doing great.
That mom, Doreen does so much, her children don't appreciate her, maybe after the show they will. It made me cry in the opening when she cried! She feels walked over and unloved. Her husband said it's his vacation, that's awful
Oh come on. She's not jealous she's doing what the show told her to do. "Find something about the other family that needs to be change in order to tell a story and get your 50K."
I love Mark he s happy and crazy Living life and enjoying it, not hurting anyone. His wife also has a beautiful spirit and kind nurturing way, teaching responsibility as mother's are supposed to do
From one punk rock ballerina to another! I have met two others, but its good to know its sort of a thing. I started dancing at 3, but got in the music scene early due to parents as well. But its fantastic to see a family support their daughter. I was shipped off to Russia to study Ballet. I got into the punk scene there and Germany. I would have done anything for parents like that though... Supportive, enthusiastic, caring and kind.... wow.
I've been a housewife and if your partner is earning the money I have no problem that keeping the home in order is the job of the person NOT earning money. That makes sense but shit, they can still help out. Those girls should be ashamed (and the dad for that matter)
Exactly! I saw both sides. As a housewife, you can’t be comfortable with letting the home fall apart because of your lazy kids. She should have sat down with them and told them to clean up after themselves instead of just saying to hell with cleaning and lay in bed all day.
I agree I'm not working at the moment because I'm pregnant and I do all the cleaning and cooking through the week and weekends my husband cooks and helps me with the house work so I can chill. When I was working we both took turns on house work some husband's just suck and think they are stuck back in time that they married a maid
Them kids should have been made to pay rent or Move out if they’re not going to pick up after themselves or help their mom maintain the household. That’s crazy. They can’t even be bothered to put their own clothes away or even help bring the basket to their mom who said she would fold their clothes! What?!? My mom would have slapped me into homelessness lol that wouldn’t fly in my family.
Funny how when he has to get up and "just do it" bc he doesn't wanna let the house go to hell, and knows the kids won't do it. Life is all of a sudden so unfair. But that's Doreens life and that's what she lives everyday.....
Rachel is such a good girl. Ain’t nothing wrong with the way she’s been raised. Doren’s children are unappreciative, disrespectful, lazy and rude.
I think the things that you say are true but I also think it would be nice for Rachel to socialize more. it doesn’t have to be one or the other
Exactly!
I don't think she was saying there was something really wrong she just wanted her to be on the phone talking to some friends I guess.
Right... is this woman really outspoken in this mans home when she has 2 adult daughters still living off of her and she can’t speak up in her own hone to get her ADULT children to help do chores or their own laundry?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’m in the damn twilight zone!!
@@gurutruecrimeguru1405 but not everyone is like that... 😂 people really have a way of forcing their norm off on others.
I'm only a few minutes in but that rock and roll family supporting and respecting their ballerina daughter? I love that shit so much
Natalie /: god same here
Natalie /: right!!They, like so many other parents have sacrificed their needs for their daughters whole world and dreams.
You are all SO right! That family is from our town, in Longview Washington and they are the sweetest people you could ever meet. Really good folks. 💞
To be expected. One child to raise , not difficult.
Natasha Jackson oh please, Natasha, any amount of children to raise is difficult. And so many parents fail at even “raising” just one. you sound hateful and stupid.
Anybody else notice how much more empathetic the alternative lifestyle parents seem to be on these types of shows?
They (we) have to defend themselves more because people don't necessarily accept their lifestyles so they're used to defending them.
Like, every episode
Because we've been judged and bullied all our lives for being who we are. Everytime there's an alt family, see how the other family judge them so hard, then apply this to an everyday basis of people judging you for who you are. Well, it leads to being sensible, empathic and open minded.
Yes, most of the time. But the Mom on the episode with the pine nut farmers was very sweet and giving too. Actually, the mom's meeting on that episode was the most mutually kind hearted and honest conversation ever.
@@gypsyhermitishtarot those ladies were literal angels!❤
He totally hit the nail on the head when he told her she was projecting her own failures with her daughters on to him.
YES
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Yes I thought she had a bloody cheek when she has 3 slobs at home.
he's perceptive.
He called her out of that too during the first argument
The Nelson family is awesome in everyway, shape and form; nothing wrong with being different vs the other family is lazy, rude and oh boy the dad is just a cave man.😱
The Nelson family (The rocker family😉) are from my town, Longview Washington. They are really nice people, their daughter Rachel is an awesome girl, and many folks around here go to their house and they just stop and talk to them. Complete strangers. They love to talk about their experience. They are really really nice people. TRULY💖
They are cool.
Not surprised by that at all. They’re awesome!
I loved their family and music. Is the band still going? Xx
@@Gothchops I surely don't know. I hope so though.
@@bleh-bleh2956 she is still dancing, yes. She is really an awesome girl.
Rachel's parents are goddamn gold!! When her father said even though we eating ramen noodles and drinking coolaid it's worth it for our daughter!!😌👌🏾😩♥️ That's wtf I'm talking about
Jaya candler: You’re right about Rachel’s parents, but please don’t take God’s name in vain.
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Can’t no kids live healthy off Ramon and koolaid
@@chynnadoll3277 Why do idiots always think they may tell other people how to speak, especially when it involves THEIR religion?
Aniyunwiya Ageya: It has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with the GodMan, the Lord Jesus Christ. He is the ONLY source of true joy and happiness, not to mention salvation. He is the only Savior of mankind, and there are millions of us who love Him very much and will not stand for His name ridiculed and used as a curse word. I sincerely hope that one day, you’ll realize the sacrifice He made to keep YOU out of Hell for all eternity and accept Him as your personal Savior. He loves you more than you could ever know. I also know you would never say what you said to me to a person who is Islamic and defending Mohammed.
I think the rocker dad is an amazing parent. They both are! They obviously did something right, and they have so much love putting everything into their daughter. It's the other mom who failed and needs the help, sadly.
Both need serious help..rocker dads very sick no color in his face at all..he needs a Doctor and some screening start with colonoscopy...hes sick...mentally and physically..
He does need to limit drinking and quit smoking though. If he'se dead he cant continue being a great dad, which i agree he is.
Well that dad needs to grow up
I love punk music and tbh, she actually killed it on stage! Fitting voice for the sound. She missed her calling in life 🤘🏼
Right!
I was so shock, I was expecting her to be terrible, but dude was I surprise. I watched her twice! 😆
Let's Rock N' Roll Baby!
Definitely a pleasant surprise! To her as well, it was nice seeing her have fun and let go! 😆
I AGREE
Doreen did amazing at the show. And her makeup and hair are very fitting!
I just watched that part and came down to the comments to see if anyone said this. I absolutely agree. I was shocked! She totally killed it.
Poor Doreen, the children not caring that she was leaving and her husband saying it was his “vacation” when she left.
My heart broke for her
I agree. But he woke up and who was washing the dishes at the end of the show? He was, I think he gets it. Their kids are entitled brats though.
Me too! He’s a total jerk…
@@lindakay1700He WAS a complete jerk.
How dare that woman jump his ars about his daughter!
Look at what a phenomenal job she's done raising her own lazy, broken, selfish and self centered children!
That girl shouldn't be so isolated tho. I agree with her point. Isolation ruins your life.
@@taffykins2745
Simple opinions.
Jenni Baker - I struggle watching shows like this because I just want to choke these girls.
@@taffykins2745 how is that girl isolated when people are always in the house it looked like she even had a friend over
@@taffykins2745 They gave a interview after the show aired and said she has friends over a lot but they didn't want teenagers over during filming because all of the parents would have to sign a contract with the station because the kids would be minors. Plus those parents wouldn't have control over how the show depicted those kids. They added that Rachel had a boyfriend but same as above they didn't want a bunch of minors and their parents under contract with the show.
It always makes me so sad for the mom when their husband is like "this is a vacation for me" That's extremely rude you married her and most of the time she does all the work so what vacation? I just feel bad for the mom that watches the episode back and hears her husband talk about her that way.
Yeah wtf did he mean?
@@gurutruecrimeguru1405 he meant he gets a break from being around his wife
But he doesn't help her with household and she said her and her husband don't spend time together anymore. Like dude you were already on vacation lol
Literally. He acts as if his life is so hard when I bet without a woman taking care of him he’d die. My roommates dad is exactly like this. Has a woman doing everything for him. And gets mad and complains when she asks him to do something, or she is too tired to please him. It’s so sad
Especially since she clearly cleans up behind his ungrateful a$$ so like what? What do you need a vacation from? The constant pampering with little to no backlash from the poor woman you treat like a slave?! He was so rude to Terry through the whole thing too, if that's how he talks to a stranger imagine how he treated his real wife on a regular basis. Unbelievable.
Rachel was only 17 and she was doing more than doreens kids combined
Doreen has some nerve giving parenting advice. Her daughters are completely unprepared for the real world.
I relate to what she's saying though. Sometimes you don't want to be hurt by your kids saying no for the millionth time or have to wait while they say "in a minute, I'll do it later" etc... and the laundry sits in the basket for three days because they keep not putting it away. Anyway I'm sure she was under contract that she HAD to come up with something bad about the other family that needed changing in order to get her $50,000.
They're out in the real world getting into debt.
@@gurutruecrimeguru1405 z.. u
@@gurutruecrimeguru1405 Maybe it's because I don't relate to the extreme need for cleanliness that most have but I think I'd find a place to stow the dirty laundry and just let it pile up. Heck, if my kids started wearing it dirty I'd probably poor something washable onto it to make it less wearable so they'd be forced to wash it. Every time they refused to do something simple they'd get something harder to do. I say this as someone who doesn't have kids though, so maybe it's harder when you do, but I just can't imagine enabling ridiculous behavior from anyone.
Don’t forget at the end where she said Mark was living in the past. Lady, have you MET your husband?!
what isn't fair is letting your wife do everything and act like she is your maid
"first thing I noticed was the flaming red hair" --- hahaha you know he wanted to hit that rocker chick UP. Also, before he said "I havent been away from her in 25 years, gonna treat this as a vacation"
I think the Nelson family are extremely talented. His guitaring and her singing are fantastic.And then the daughter does ballet?! Love it
im musical to and always se somethigndiff ach watch , im not close ith 1 freind of my spouses but th mother looks like eva, i never noticed how damn much the blonds husband looks like julie chases husband from that episode ps she's changed somwaht for the better ive found out
Doreen is just jealous. Despite being a rock family, their child is far more responsible and level headed. She has to go back to her good for nothing family.
Doreen was under contract to come up with something bad about their family in order to get the $50,000.
@@gurutruecrimeguru1405 that sounds more likely because only 1 thing that she's saying is based in reality (that Rachel doesn't get a lot of social interaction). Rachel is far more independent and prepared for life than her daughters at that time.
@@gurutruecrimeguru1405 Yes. Lets not forget this is reality television. They need the drama one way or another.
Doreen is also from an older mind frame. To her, a girl needs to experience High School and go through the teenage motions. She was probably thinking, her children did and they're struggling - what would Rachel be prepared for?
That rocker dad grow up
"we're not growing up, we're just getting ugly" lol.
King shit
This man isn't even getting ugly, he is FINE
Best line
That's insane how incredibly lazy those 20 year olds are how embarrassing. The young boy should be helping out too.
This is what Millennial children are best known to be. I have 2 of them but never let it get anything like most of their friends.
I forgot there even was a son until an hour and a half in! 😂
Nicole Jessica hah, I’ve also started this month 😂💀
@Nicole Jessica I watched them all, prepare to feel empty by the end lol
@@nunyabuisness7552 I just want to say I am a millennial and have been with out a job for 3 month since age 11 (I'm almost 26) when I started washing dishes at a bar. I moved out at 15 and have always paid my own bill's.
It's sad the laziness of most gives us a bad rep. There is still some hope. The newest generation is centennial, this started in 98 or 99
Mark is the man you need he hyped her up when she was getting dressed although he may lack in some areas he’s overall a wonderful guy
I think Doreen secretly had a little crush on him
They just seem like better parents.
jackie b they were in all honesty just a little crazy
@@lailonnib yeah lol. But a good crazy. Lol
The mother didn't seem like she would put up with nonsense even if she'd gotten a tough kid, but it also seems like they lucked out a bit on their kid's personality. It's hard to tell how much is nature and how much is nurture, but their daughter seems to be a really quiet self motivated sort. There's no telling if having a mother who's constantly doing everything and a detached father would have ruined that.
"Nicotine, caffeine and gasoline." Same.
Sounds like lyrics to a panic! At the disco song.
That’s exactly what I said 😂😂
“Don’t threaten me with a good time” would be the song 😂
I know! I can relate to this guy! 😁
Mood. throw in antidepressants.
honestly the boston dad grew so much it was impressive. its so easy to be in a family and get stuck into a routine so you dont even think about how the other person feels. it's admirable how he owned up to his mistakes and changed for the better, i feel like usually in this show the dad just stays cranky
Steven isn't getting enough credit for his turnaround for supporting Terry and confronting his own children. He was awesome! One of the most impressive parents on this show. Loved to see him in action and he wasn't half-baked about it either.
But he left a sink full of dishes for Doreen.
@@gurutruecrimeguru1405 the end of the episode is him washing them while she unpacked her bags
@@gurutruecrimeguru1405 did You watch the very ending he started cleaning. No joke I cried.
I love Mark so much! He is adorable getting so excited about his music.
You can tell he lives, eat and breathes music! He's a cross between Keith Richards and Lyle Lovett!
And his wife! He was so cute how he could t stop touching and kissing her. 💕
Marc is a butthead.
I think he is such a doll.. loving dad.. music lover and that hair 😍
That’s called cocaine
I'd be embarrassed to have my mommy doing my laundry & picking up after me, at 22. I get there are circumstances for them living at home, but to not help out with the housework is just plain laziness. It's also disrespectful to your mother. I was doing those things at 10, some before. What a couple of slackers.
Barbara - Last visit to my mother’s house she had things to do outside the house so I made dinner and the kitchen was spotless after I cooked the food I went out and bought with my money. Spilled on the floor while cooking so the entire floor got scrubbed. Show respect for your family home and show them they raised you right.
But they know mommy is going to do it for them. They don't have to do anything... Mommy even gives them money....
My mom had my brothers and i doing chores at an early age and i do the same with mine, i am NOT having lazy entitled kids.
@@smellycat6386 They will thank you later, trust me. And so will any future spouses! 😁
I was married and out of the house at 21. I can’t imagine being 22 and being like that towards my mom... rent free!!!
The punk-rock family look so youthful because they're genuinely rooted in love, walking and living their truth.
The parents looked like they were in their mid 20s or 30s
My goodness , that is such a great point ! I have been watching this story unfold and mid way it hit me and I told my husband “the rocker couple is actually still very much in love, you can tell, the Boston couple , quite the opposite “. The household in general felt way more loving ❤. And you’re right, they’re living their truth , the cherry on top.
Terry is exactly the type of person everyone needs in their life. She’s kind, caring, strong, fun and she pushes you to be the best version of yourself. Not because she wants to be mean, but because she truly cares. What a beautiful heart that woman has and I wish her nothing but success and happiness for her and her family.
“$5000 for mark to fix his teeth”
Mark: “well that’s a little harsh “
Me: dead 💀🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I would kill for 5 grand to fix my teeth
And did you see her own husbands teeth? 😬
Waaaaay too many commercials.🤪
As a performer, it wouldn't hurt to have some fresh pearly whites
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dad: "It really upset me how the kids just sat there and didn't do anything."
NOW you're getting it! 👍👏👏👏
Then he leaves a huge pile of dishes in the sink for Doreen when she comes home.
@@gurutruecrimeguru1405 But did you notice when he saw his wife being upset and left the siting room he went and cleaned the dishes. I think both mom and dad knew at that moment they messed it up when it came to raising their kids. I hope they didn't let it go and the girls are doing well. As the other mom said its not to late.
@@gurutruecrimeguru1405 You said this multiple times but it just… isn’t true? Did we watch the same thing?
Rachel isn't a typical teenager because she's got the X-factor! Such a talented beauty
She is beautiful
She does seem to be extremely self motivated to go after what she wants. Parents who are used to be being very entangled with their kids may not get it, but I don't think she needs as much intense focus as a kid who is more low energy and needs to be pushed achieve so they can see how good it feels. The other kids seem to need a bit of that but aren't getting it.
I have to say, Doreen sounded really good singing. I was impressed. And she looked good.
She did soooo good. I would’ve failed miserably in such a situation haha (I’m the musician, not vocalist!)
50 thousand. The way doreen acted if i was in charge id put 10 grand for each of her 3 kids to get a car. 5 grand for each girl for finding their own apartment. 5 grand for the son to go to college. And 5 grand to go to a vaca for the family
I want mark to come shopping with me he is so enthusiastic and bubbly we need more of that in this world.
Yes he was so into it 😎👏
He's into everything 😅😊
The meet up at the airport is always so cringe 😬
Loving the rock ‘n’ roll family that supports the ballerina daughter, sooo cool That they sacrifice for her. awesome parents.....
Problem is she is not professional ballet material. Sorry but the competition is that harsh. Talented as she is.
The blonde mum is definitely projecting when she was criticising the homeschool girl. She's only acting like the isolation is a bad thing because she wishes her daughters were as responsible
Ghost O.O I just hit 1.5 hours and said, “Oh yeah, they have a son”. I forgot he even existed because the girls were awful.
Right on Ghost
I think it was probably contrived by production to create some element of friction/drama
Doreen was first complaining about how non stop and loud the music was, and then the next day she was complaining about how quiet it was 🤦♀️😂😂
Yes she is a typical Karen, she was stereotype the Rocker father expected his daughter to be this Emo gothic teen.
I thought the same thing
Stay home as long as you’d like, as long as you are contributing to the household and as you are working towards a better future.
And help out paying bills if they can't do chores or help out paying bills kick them out.
The key is to negotiate with your adult kids as adults. That doesn't mean you don't treat them better than random strangers on the street. It just means you don't let them get away with anything that makes you angry at them. If you're constantly getting frustrated and and angry at your children for the part they play in your household then you suck at negotiating. You should feel like having them around makes the house a better place. If it doesn't, they're adults. They don't have to be around.
Maybe the exception to this would be if one is getting out of some abusive or exploitative situation and you need to be a rehab for 6 months or something. Maybe for a short time they'll not be able to contribute as much as they drain, but I still think that should be for a limited time. Part of becoming rehabilitated means they need to learn to contribute and make themselves valuable to the household.
This is a cultural thing BTW.
Most cultures encourage their children to grow up and begin new families in the same home they were raised in. My husband is from Portugal. He moved out at 26 and into another family home that is now his. He is the 7th generation in this home. It’s their culture…
Me being American, I moved out at 15.. paid my own college and bills and I have struggled most of my entire life, never able to have any assistance or healthcare.
Looks like Rachel was out in the real world socializing throughout the whole show…. Ballet class, joking with her and her parents friends, going to shows.
Not like she just sat in the house all day needing a ride to BLOCK BUSTAAAAHHHHH 🤷🏽♀️
😅 ain't that the truth
😂😂😂
😹😹😹😹
The mom whose 20 year old daughters who sleep all day and owe her thousands of dollars judging the daughter who is self motivated and committed is gold!
that is why that girl is good cause she's not exposed to the toxic teens at school..
Jealousy at its finest 😂
That man has lost his mind " you got to vacuum " !! He's not said one word to his grown ass daughters about cleaning ...not one word ! He treats his wife like a maid !! He comes home and does a walk through checking the house ??!!!!!! 😂😂
Yeah I'd have told him to go and get screwed
Ughh this guy and his lazy ass kids can clean their own damn house! what a pig, trying to force her to clean his house??? Fuck that !!
You are absolutely 100% right about that
1993 ✂️ 😇 ✂️
He did say something to his daughter, he said to one of them,”oh, you’re in bed.”
This lady is so wrong. If I could go back in time and trade hours spent with friends, doing typical teenager things (not always up to something good), for hours dedicating myself to a skill like Rachel has with ballet, I totally would. She is only missing out on distractions. I'm sure she grew up and made plenty of friends and has good times in adulthood.
I agree! Friends come and go but a skill you can live on and truly brings you joy, there's no words for that.
She will thrive in her 20s,30s and up. If the pinnacle of your life was high-school era , gee that's sad.
Same...
God, all I did was get loaded and "hang out.". Now I'm finally getting into my career at 30 because I was such an ass hat growing up. Those times were awesome, but I dunno.. I think you might be right.
Jessie Scholes lmao saaaame. I wouldn’t trade my ass hat years for anything tho. I’ll be able to dedicate the rest of my life to my career but those moments I’ll never get back and I had some of the best memories of my life 🙏🏽💕🙌🏽 to ass hats!
Jelly Honey yeah ass hats!!! Even though I hung out and socialized, I still cleaned up!
Those girls are awful to their mom. 💔
I forgot how much fun this show was. This was before reality tv hit the skids and you could really identify with the people on the show.
The classic case of the rock and roll parents and the kid who likes more classical (ballet) aspiration!
If Rachel wanted to be tattooed, pierced, and home coming queen, her parents would have supported her every step of the way. She is who she is and she lives in HER comfort zone. Bravo! Her parents are also living their truths. Living....not sleeping their lives away.
Facts
This woman stills pisses me off to this day..How are you judging this man and his child..Meanwhile, you got grown ass adult kids who can't even get a paycheck without getting a ride from mommy. They don't even do housework.....So let's not talk about other people's families.
And she legit called him a fuck up then got frustrated he stood up for himself.
I think they literally HAVE to come up with something wrong about the other person's family to even get the $50. lol
Well said.
I yelled at the tv watching her. Infuriating
That's the literally the premise of the show.
Rachel is a great child, shez perfect just the way she is
Yes I agree!the family is from our town in Longview Washington, and Rachel is really an awesome girl. They are really nice people
@@_sheebie I'm so glad to hear that from someone who knows them, I hope she went on to do great things with her life ❤️😊😊
@1993 yes you are right, but I can't force them to save their soul. I do understand what you are saying though. They really are nice people. Pray for them. I will do that too.
Much love ❣️
@@_sheebie what is the daughter doing now?
@@leonidasofsparta8814 I have no idea. I don't know.
Bad parent telling good parent how to parent... Nice
@Tommy Salami very right
@@mokgadisdiary8420 I bet now Rachel is being successful in her dance make huge cash living on Mansions whole Doreen's daughter's are living off government assistance .
"I thought she'd be covered in piercings." Has Doreen NOT looked at her daughter? Wtf
"Keep the house clean, that's it."
*Said by a man who clearly has a misunderstanding of what it takes to keep a home perfect at all times*
Hey. There's one point in favor of us older single guys. We may not be as pretty but we have no misconceptions about what's involved in the constant battle against dust and mold. On the down side, we're still men so most of us still have a higher disgust threshold than the average woman lol.
@@ZIbroweed My mate is my best friend. I don’t work but at least I keep things clean at home. He deserves to come home to a clean and supportive home. 👋
this episode has my favorite ending on the entire show. reality tv has never been the most subtle genre, so that quiet moment at the very end with Steve walking to the kitchen and doing the dishes, right after Doreen comments that she doesn't think her family is going to change, is so uplifting despite how small it is.
i think the rock and roll guy has done well bringing up his daughter but there is one point i do agree with, she does seem a bit lonely.
He hasn't done any rearing of her from what I can tell. She has been left to her own devices and it's very fortunate that she has chosen not to go off the deep end. She's following the only path she can find opposite her parents which is very subdued and introverted. I hope she finds a wonderful young man before she has to go it alone in a world she isn't remotely prepared for and gets walked on a dozen times because she's naive.
Silhouette0fDreams Some people are just naturally quiet and prefer quiet solitude. I don’t get it at all but I’ve had to accept it. Plus she looked like she was having a lot of fun at the show. She is getting exposed to all types of people. She probably meet more types than I did at that age because I stuck to what I knew.
@@nunyabuisness7552 sure, because every woman needs a young man to protect them from falling on their heads 🙄 I can't even understand why you think she isn't prepared for the world and needs a man for that.
@@nunyabuisness7552 So she needs a man to make it in the world?
Concerning the lonely part.... The parents gave a interview after the show aired and said Rachel usually has lots of friends over but since they are minors and if the show taped them all of their parents would have to be under contract with the show. Plus those parents wouldn't have control over how the show edited those kids. So I can fully understand that.
The old adverts 😢
I remember most of these from my childhood.
Roughly 2007-2008
I think it's interesting to see them criticize certain things that just aren't inherently bad. Being homeschooled and in ballet isn't bad. Living at home past 20 isn't bad. They should have focused on the points that actually WERE bad, like not having a job, owing your parents money, not having a social life, not doing your share. Living at home past 20 is fine, being homeschooled is fine, ballet is fine, acting weird and "young" is fine.
I don't think you get it. You must be really young.
@@taffykins2745 that's quite rude. You can present your own opinion respectfully. Resorting to "you must be really young" and "I don't think you get it" are both very condescending ways to disagree with someone while also not presenting any further information to the discussion. I am not young, and even if I were young, you wouldn't have changed my mind through replying the way you did, because you presented no information or reasoning other than insulting others.
@@JulesAskalotl preach!!
@@JulesAskalotl 👏👏 Amen 👏👏
@@JulesAskalotl
Honey, I get so tired of explaining, sometimes it's best to pose the question rather than to educate. The question is implied. I see your response was what one could expect from a young person. Maybe instead of hating on me, you could ask yourself some different questions. Or maybe even ask the person you disagree with to elaborate. Who knows, it might be an eye opening dialogue next time.
Have a nice day.
It goes to show you, punk rock parents are awesome. What is the kid going to rebel against? Level headed example right here
She rebelled by going for a classical older historic genre of art. lol
@@gurutruecrimeguru1405 I would consider it being rebellious if her rock and roll family didn't agree with her choice to choose ballet. I think they are great and supportive parents
No no that dad needs to grow up
My parents raised me to clean up after myself from an early age. At eight I was taking turns doing the dishes with my other siblings who were older because I was about tall enough to. I cleaned the bathroom every weekend and folded laundry, I was awarded an hour of game time (sometimes more). At 12 I started doing my own laundry and we all did chores around the house. Despite not being in the best position to do so I moved out at 18. Those three kids are spoiled brats who treat their mother in a way that we wouldn't treat mine (save for the couple who were a bit rude to her when they became teenagers). I would stay up every night my mum worked to make sure her bed was set and even readied the coffee pot for her, so she could easily have coffee in the morning. I didn't have an easy childhood but I was wise enough to see that my mum deserved and needed help, especially with how distant my father was with her.
I like Rachel. She seems quiet, studious and ambitious.
Alex Kennedy: ...and very, very sweet and respectful too🥰.
Ahem, the word is "Estudios". not "studious"
Let me guess, you're American, right?
@@randomnetfiend "Studious " - means spending a lot of time studying and reading. Please either Google it or look in a dictionary.
@@randomnetfiend the definition of the meaning- studious. A studious person who love spending a lot of time studying and reading- *academic, bookish, book-loving, intellectual, thoughtful, serious
I love how the dad went from telling the mom to clean everything to at the end of the episode he’s cleaning the dishes. At least one of them had some growth from the experience
Doreen was a beautiful woman. That man beat her down into the sad depressed silently suffering woman she is today. Hashtagfreedoreen!!
NO one can intimidate you
without your consent
@Mahder Aklilu
I don't understand what you are trying to say
@Mahder Aklilu I get what u r saying
@@zhaw4821 She's saying it's subtle and happens slowly so you don't really consent. Something has to give you a wake up call.
I thought the same thing. Doreen was beautiful and too see her just used and overweight prob from having kids and depression..probably not even allowed to take time for herself to walk or go to a gym, I went through that also...got so depressed that I stopped brushing my hair and teeth and gained weight after my fourth kid and a narcissist husband...it happens really subtle and even when you know it's happening you don't have the energy to change it until finally one day it's ether do or die.
FOR MOMS WHO DONT GET HOMESCHOOLING, I WAS FOR 8 YRS & I WENT TO NORMAL SCHOOL- I HATED NORMAL SCHOOL, HOMESCHOOL ALLOWS YOU TO DO WHAT YOU LOVE & YOU GET ONE CHILDHOOD TO TRY THINGS YOURE GOOD AT. ITS A WASTE TO SEND KIDS TO SIT FOR 8 HRS & LEARN BRAINWASHED GVT BS, THEY DONT EVEN TEACH CURSIVE
Jenna G. I can agree with this, I went to public school up until 10th grade and then I had enough. I decided to switch to home school and I had so much more time on my hands, I was able to work 12hr job, and do my school work.
When i was I school they taught cursive and Roman numerals, when i found out they stopped doing that i just decided to teach my daughter those things.
This is true the new generations dont get to learn cursive!
Let's be real here. Cursive is a huge waste of time.
Doreens kids really dislike her, they didnt careless when she left, yet were quick to hug the new mom
Out actually made me feel bad for biomom.
Omgggg she left them money to pay off debt AND for school!! That’s honestly very thoughtful and she’s trying to get them to grow up! It says a lot when you’re handed that opportunity and complain about it
Yes. The only mistake is I feel like she should have stipulated that the money could only be payed on their debut to match payments they made themselves or something like that. Just paying off a portion of the debit is further enabling the bad behavior if it doesn't come with some kind of responsibility.
Rachel , she is not out doing normal teenage things ,, ok Boston mom ,, and your daughters are doing normal teenage things ,? like living off you and to lazy to get out of bed ,,, well I guess your right ,,,
Those "TEENAGERS" aren't even teen they are 20-21 years old they gotta go!!!!
Rachel is awesome though and her parents love her
Doreen let her girls do “normal teenage things” and now she has TWO lazy ass adult children living in her house.
Suuuure I’ll take advice from you Doreen. You raised some real level headed, well adjusted girls 😂🤦♀️
I think the rock mom got some pipes on her. She's got a really good sound. It's amazing how they're making sure their kid has everything she needs.
The rock band mom is super cool... And their little rock band "rocks" I like the music. I like quirky rock .
Having ambition and a plan IS a regular teenager thing. Not all teens are the same. Just because her grown kids have no direction doesn't mean that all kids are that way. I think she is overwhelmed by being in a home that has that much drive and art in it. Big kudos to the rock n' roll parents for supporting their daughters dreams and not slowing down just because they are getting older. Age doesn't mean you have to quit your passions or enjoying life.
It makes me sad/angry that the daughters got mad with how the money was accoladed. Their mom works her ass off around the house so she of all people in that home deserves what she wants (it was so sweet seeing her get the money for her new kitchen). And btw, the government doesn’t totally pay for your school, it’s called student loans and you’d have to pay it off anyway.
If it had been one kid, that would be a different matter but if all three kids ended up the exact same kind of lazy, that's how they were raised. The mom and the dad share responsibility for that. The mom was a hardcore enabler and the dad appeared to be checked out at home (though both may have been played up by the producers there's probably some truth to both characterizations). The kids were absolutely horrible, but their parents raised them that way. They taught them that refusing to do things means that those things get done by someone else. That's a cruel thing to teach your kids because the real world will be a harsh re-educator, and who knows how much debt they'll be in when they finally learn how the world works if they ever do.
Doreen my heart goes out to you!! Never forget you are the superhero of your family!! You are an angel! You are amazing! ❤
This episode is prove that being a mom that fits in the roles doesn’t always produce good kids
For a traditional mother to work properly you need a strong and engaged father. If she's all nurture and he's checked out there's no one to enforce discipline.
Doreen did awesome singing glad she took that step out of her comfort zone.
So one Mom can't control her kids YET she has a problem with the ballerina being so invested in ballet and homeschooling?
The Boston mom is so jealous she has to try and find something wrong with a productive, driven, disciplined young lady! Unlike her unproductive, rude, selfish, Children who are, to this day, probably living at home!
I'm super amazed & proud of that lady agreeing to do the performance. I think she felt very liberated.
Thank you Tinsel!!! You're the best.... or shall I say on this episode.... You Rock!
Sure, Rachel could be more social, but she's a wonderful kid, her parents are in love, and in love with life, they're happy and supportive of eachother. Hell, her father recognized how he was rude and apologized to Doreen even though Doreen was the one judging them. She definitely thought they were druggies or something with how she went "what you and ur wife went through and ur trying to shelter her from that world" UNDERHANDED istg
That oldest girl doesn't want to move out? So ungrateful to be upset about having money for her own place. Even if she doesn't want to move right off, at least she has it for when she does! That is a huge blessing. Also the money the others got for school is a huge blessing. Clearly they are all so immature and ungrateful!!
Not surprising at all
Yeah, I know, right!! I'd be so happy to have money to move into my own apartment! I live at home with my mom, I work. And I help Mom as much as I can.
I love the Rock n Roll Family.
The cherry on top was the husband helping with the dishes. I’m glad he learned to appreciate his wife more. Hopefully the kids did also after watching themselves.😂
absolutely loved the nelson family! they were real and genuine AND encouraged their daughters dancing AND were just badasses. i love to see that.
Rachel's parents are that one cool punk couple in those family movies
7:55 “oh i have money! two dollars! i’m gonna buy an energy drink!” ME this is me all the time lmao
That one daughter looks just like Miley Cyrus in her Hannah Montana days
I was trying to figure out why she looked so familiar lol
Way prettier than Miley
Yes. Miley pre-skank.
She also gave me like young Amanda Bynes vibes
I love the Rock and roll family. Their daughter is a dancer, that's amazing. There parents made sacrifices to pay for her classes. I love that
rachael is very beautiful, the nelson family seem really awesome especally mark lol
Christina Campbell feel bad for that blonde mom I think I see some of these but on cable channle hopped and didn't go back or I forget anyway I'm a musician mark is hot and I'm curious to see if he's less of a ditz then I remember him being
rock on
to bad the red head couldn't stand up to the daughters and husband like she spoke to camera men she must have a hard time with confrontation with males
blond mom was a bit better but all she needed to add is Rachel is a great beautiful smart girl
her mom couldn't seem to say the words ty to him at the bar not that she didn't appreciate his words she just didn't express thanks
I'm a musician tho I don't do gigs often doreen is so strong and brave and it's not like an acoustic show it's hard core but this part she sings I'm starting to remember from my cable days she done so well
I want to see outtakes where they ask a random person "are you my new husband?" and they get a crazy look and a "NO!" 😂😂
😂😂😂😂 Are they told by the producers to wander gormlessy around the airport? Surely it would make more sense to hold a sign up.
@@MrsSlocombesPuddyCat Also funny how they come out of the airport completely alone like they flew private and no other planes just landed. No one on the sidewalk. Just the person waiting and the person coming.
Whoa, I didn't even know there was a boy in the family till the letter reading, lol
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haha he probably didn't want to. and he's underage so his choice.
You see him at the family meeting at 1:33:01 as well.
No way ...I would NOT make up a twenty year old bed !! Come on really ??
She a frigging trooper for performing! She killed it too! Maybe she will join the band
Who else reads the comments thru the annoying commercials.
I just fast forward through the commercials
@@reina6271 same
Me. I do wish the ads could be edited out. USA telly seems to have an ad every few minutes. I am trying to fast forward but keep missing bits - so yes reading the comments then.
Not me. I didn't want to get spoiled about how the money was spent.
I like the ads, I remember those days 😂😂😂.
I love they're rockers raising a ballerina. Very open to expression.
Rachel's dad made a great point @1:00:36, that is true, she is projecting her own failure and worries.
Having friends does not do same things for everyone.
What’s not to love about the Nelsons ❤️ I really enjoy the way they speak to each other’s and to their daughter, the dad has great respect for the role of her wife and kid, he’s a supporter, a provider and a caring person. I mostly loved that their daughter seems to really enjoy joining his dad, she does not act like a typical ten age who tends to be embarrassed or shy away from her parents. Love them.
Yeah, I think his "always on" vibe would wear me out. I'd definitely have to get away, but that's no hate coming from me. If it works for them then it works. No sense fixing what ain't broke. I just can't handle too much of people who need everything to be the most.
I would kill to be with a guy like mark. This cliche but imma say it, he's kinda dreamy ya know
Definitely good role models for her as parents. She smiles genuinely when she’s with them. She’s a great kid who is mature and doesn’t even need micromanaging cuz she’s so responsible. Lovely family
Grow up he needs
If I got handed what I call "freedom money" for a down-payment on my own personal space AND money for school... WOW... I would not be on all the anti depressants I have to pay for that's for sure... I'd be so eternally grateful. Wtf is wrong with those kids
What’s wrong is that the parents never made them do shit and the product of that is those stupid ass adults who are probably still living at home!
That's not how depression works, but okay.
Such an 80s mum & dad, the rocker family, love them!
I think Doreen is a tad jealous of how Rachel has been raised & doesn’t need to go off partying all the time, I’m sure she has friends & she goes out here & there, but they don’t show everything to us. My daughter is the same, we raised her & her siblings a similar way & they never cared much about going out, she’s now married, living over in USA, we r an Aussie family...I reckon that’s pretty courageous of her. Her brother has his career and doing great.
Awe momma doreen your so sweet I'm sorry ur kids dnt appreciate u I wish I had a nice mom like u cheer up baby doll
@Tommy Salami Fuck off grammar nazi.
I feel so bad for Doreen in the beginning while introducing herself. Just pure sadness
Okay but mama got some confidence towards the end of her performance 😍
Doood she high key killed it I was shocked. It was so wholesome
Tori Anderson RIGHT?!? Made my little heart smile. 💕
True! I’m glad she didn’t turn down the opportunity
That mom, Doreen does so much, her children don't appreciate her, maybe after the show they will. It made me cry in the opening when she cried! She feels walked over and unloved. Her husband said it's his vacation, that's awful
Bro Mark was SO supportive of Doreen when she was singing
Rachel looks like a Miley Cyrus in Hannah Montana days tho.....
She's a great kid and very talented.
that lady is jealousy because her kids are lazy
Lazy because she made them that way.
Oh come on. She's not jealous she's doing what the show told her to do. "Find something about the other family that needs to be change in order to tell a story and get your 50K."
I love Mark he s happy and crazy Living life and enjoying it, not hurting anyone. His wife also has a beautiful spirit and kind nurturing way, teaching responsibility as mother's are supposed to do
The dad needs to grow up
From one punk rock ballerina to another! I have met two others, but its good to know its sort of a thing. I started dancing at 3, but got in the music scene early due to parents as well. But its fantastic to see a family support their daughter. I was shipped off to Russia to study Ballet. I got into the punk scene there and Germany. I would have done anything for parents like that though... Supportive, enthusiastic, caring and kind.... wow.
I've been a housewife and if your partner is earning the money I have no problem that keeping the home in order is the job of the person NOT earning money. That makes sense but shit, they can still help out. Those girls should be ashamed (and the dad for that matter)
Exactly! I saw both sides. As a housewife, you can’t be comfortable with letting the home fall apart because of your lazy kids. She should have sat down with them and told them to clean up after themselves instead of just saying to hell with cleaning and lay in bed all day.
I agree I'm not working at the moment because I'm pregnant and I do all the cleaning and cooking through the week and weekends my husband cooks and helps me with the house work so I can chill. When I was working we both took turns on house work some husband's just suck and think they are stuck back in time that they married a maid
@@JUJU-._.- yep dating someone like that now. on my way out
Them kids should have been made to pay rent or Move out if they’re not going to pick up after themselves or help their mom maintain the household. That’s crazy. They can’t even be bothered to put their own clothes away or even help bring the basket to their mom who said she would fold their clothes! What?!? My mom would have slapped me into homelessness lol that wouldn’t fly in my family.
Funny how when he has to get up and "just do it" bc he doesn't wanna let the house go to hell, and knows the kids won't do it. Life is all of a sudden so unfair. But that's Doreens life and that's what she lives everyday.....
Omg. The rock family's dynamic. That's goals.