Thanks for the hand holding. I have been fighting with a PX4 that I thought was not sending data but following your guide I now have full OSD, woo hoo! Next step install it all in the Bix3. Thanks again.
Shame you are not doing an APM 3.1 minimOsd with radio telemetry tutorial. That is the tutorial I have been hoping to see! Nevertheless , I appreciate all the hard work you have put into making these tutorials. Thank you!
If you get the right cable you can follow this and the other video that covers the MAVLink radios with APM Mini 3.1 (ruclips.net/video/0lINt4hv5tg/видео.html) to add them both to the model at the same time. As a side question, all of these videos are done for free. Would you pay to see that video you want? I am considering offering a subscription service for requests and one to one support. If not, best of luck with it. Happy flying!
Thanks for this video i was wondering how the 12v was going to connect to my 5v eachine fpv..turning the whole board into 5v is great. now i need to convert the eachine plug and play system to what you have shown. hope it will work. thanks again. love your tutorials.
Lee: Is choosing PAL or NTSC (for USA) under video options important? I have a jittery overlay and video from camera is stable. Thanks for all the videos!
+Derr Nav One gives you more lines, the other a faster refresh rate. You normally need to make sure that all of the pieces in the FPV system have the same settings to work well. You can usually tell quite easily when you haven't as you don't get a stable image!
Awesome video thanks very much. I have a question, if we soder these two spots on OSD, and plug the OSD only to 5 volt APM, where the main 12 volt battery voltage can be collected to be shown on OSD ? Please let me know, Regards
using this workflow, is there a way to add geotagging to an on screen display? for example have a center dot and the lattitude and longitude of that center dot? (perhaps also a grid square of 9 dots with lat / long?). Then if the camera is a gimbal, changing the direction and angle of the camera would update the osd of teh center dot's lattitude and longitude?
It's not something I've seen. There are geotagging options in Ardupilot but the stuff I've seen is more for tagging images at the location they were taken... Happy flying
@@Painless360 thanks! yeah would probably need something like raspberry pi or nvidia jetson to make a real time geo-tagging of the location where the camera points to
Would be great to see if this is working for pixhawk as well, cause i can see some functions which have been added to the minimosd-extra firmware only. Futhermore i would be interested to set the RSSI and the appropriated alarms correctly ;-)
Thank you for your detailed videos. Have you noticed that Pixhawk v. 3.2.1 no longer displays the flight mode on Minimosd...or is it just my rig? Is there a fix?
@@Painless360 thanks!. yes just a different set of cables... 2 question, if the system is running of 4s and the minimOsd has 12v and 5v how to go about it?, ... 2nd question in the last part of your video you say no power is given from the vtx to the cam, why ? and i ask this because i see the red wire of the vtx and cam connected so isnt the vtx supplying 5v out to the cam?
Oh and another question (sorry to be a pest). I've seen your video on how to configure a Taranis to for send it's RSSI signal to a Naze32 over a PPM channel. Can the same thing be done with an APM and have the APM forward the RSSI info onto the MinimOSD? If so, anything we should know?
Totally appreciate your work, great job, quick question I know it is an old video but I am having one issue hopping anyone has any solution, I am connecting it with Pixhwak cube, and all things run smoothly, just as u described in the video sometime the overlay doesn't come when it starts or boots up, you have to manually reset it, is there any way around this?
Are the "in/out" on the MinimOSD actually ins and outs? AFAIK they are connected together, so a simple "Y"-harness between cam/VTX/OSD is enough? I have a Aomway camera with backpack, but it does also have the connector for the VTX exposed - so I could wire it up to a OSD.
That's the way I've always connected them and they work great. The MinimOSD is overlaying the text into the video signal so there needs to be an in and an out.. Happy flying!
Hmm, maybe you're right. I can see the ground and VCC are connect together, so that could be simplified. I might be confusing it with my Mini OSD, or "G-OSD" where there is no in/out, the signal are just spliced together static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/3/9/6/1/0/4/a5625515-165-hkosd%28GOSD%29diagram.png
I have the 3DR 915MHz telemetry module and was thinking I could just split the wires from the APM so that I have a telemetry feed going into both the MinimOSD as well as the 3DR telemetry module. This should work OK shouldn't it or will there be too much drain trying to run both devices simultaneously?
Andrew Smith This is a common thing for builders to try. The issue is exactly as you describe with the load on the output becoming too great. I have seen 'buffer' circuits to allow this but never used one myself. Best of luck.
I have an APM2.8 running both the minimosd micro, plus a 3dr telemetry module. But for the osd the only connection i made to the telemetry socket on the apm was the tx, i run that to the rx on the osd. I powered the osd from a separate 5v supply independent from the apm. This way i have had no issues. At first i used the splitter cable that came with the telemetry kit which powered both the telemetry module and the osd from the telemetry socket on the apm, that caused problem with both the osd and telemetry module. Since powering the osd from a separate supply i have had no problems.
As Jon has already said, if you get the right cable you can follow this and the other video that covers the MAVLink radios with APM Mini 3.1 (ruclips.net/video/0lINt4hv5tg/видео.html) to add them both to the model at the same time. You do need to watch the signal level from the Tx pin from the APM as having both devices connected can pull the signal level down to a point where there can be errors. Seems to happen on some boards and not others. As a side question, all of these videos are done for free. Would you pay to see that video you want? I am considering offering a subscription service for requests and one to one support. If not, best of luck with it. Happy flying!
Question: Why did you split the ground from the transmitter by going to the OSD then to the Camera? If the entire board is being powered by the 5 V bridges what is the use of splitting the ground? Why not send the ground directly to the camera and just run the video in and out to the OSD? What am I missing?
Think about the instances where there is one huge battery powering the model and another smaller, dedicated battery used to power the FPV system. In that case having a common ground for both systems is essential and ensures correct operation. Hope this makes sense.
Jon, even the very latest version of the MinimOSD board (www.hobbyrc.co.uk/micro-minimosd-for-naze32-with-multiwii-osd-kv-team-mod) is wired this way with a GND and Signal both in and out. Interestingly the latest version of the board *has* done away with the 12v power connection - maybe I was onto something ;) Happy flying!
Gašper Kolenc They are and with improved options for fonts and features too! Sadly these teams developing the firmware fro the MinimOSD are working on each project individually and you tend to find that a lot of the Multiwii/Naze32/Flip32 versions are evolving faster as the community is more active and there are more boards out there. If you find a better one that this let me know!
Painless360 Maybe remzibi could be good alternative. Today I receive a remzibi for mistake from China. I ordered ublox m8n, but receive remzibi with ublox 6m.
forgive this noob question, but I don't understand that everything is connected. isn't it supposed to be sent wirelessly ? is the video out supposed to go to a wireless video tx and then to the screen?
+Bik Star thank you for the suggestion but the APM platform is now seriously losing support. In my last flight controller comparison video I said as much. I’ve moved onto Pixhawk on all models now.
Ryan Kinzie FatShark here mainly. I do have a Diversity screen as well. You can see them all in videos in this series - ruclips.net/p/PLYsWjANuAm4pG2vYkZ-LUzBIIRG19J-Tm Happy flying!
I followed your instructions on this, thanks for that. Everything is updating except the battery voltage...:-( Also updated in Mission planner (version 1.3.41) by clicking the osd tab. Any suggestions?
Sorry to bother you like this, but i could not find the an answer. This is what I mean. I have followed your instructions. So I connected everything the right way (checked, dubble checked and triple checked) On my Taranis the voltage of my flight battery is reading fine (from the RX module FrSky Lite FUL-1) for example 12.1 volts But when I look in my FPV goggles, the voltage is floating from 11.20 to 11.43 And it's always the same values, even when the battery voltage is on 10.7 the goggles are still showing between 11.20 and 11.43
Hi sir... Salam alikam... Hope you will be fine... Sir kindly if you can make a video about miniosd setup with pixhalk 2.4.8 and which firmware can be compatible of osdmini with pixhalk.. bcz I am facing issue about the mini osd layout is not showing if I connect osdmini with pixhalk telemetry port 1... (waiting for mavelink data.).. But if I connect mini osd with Apm it working fine and giving the desired layout on the screen... Then why not with pixhalk bcz both flight controller are configured on mission plannner????🙏
Hi Professor, would this work the same for Pixhawk using arducam instead of Minimosd extra where there are some issues on AC3.2.1 and 3.3? I am tempted to try it, as I have poor results with the minimosd extra r800 (which is recommended, on telem 2 with some mods on the firmware parameters for this port...). and to complicate the issue, I am using a 3 way switch on this setup, and off course, nothing works! ;) Just to know if you tried this OSD firmware on Pixhawk, first before moving on.... Cheers and Safe Flying!
I'm very new to using OSD's and I was wondering whether it always requires some sort of FC to run an OSD? I want to add one to a flying wing but it doesn't have any sort of FC for stabilization. Is there any other way to add for example a minim OSD to the wing without an FC? Would be very thankful for help
+Johnny 250 you can but it is not well documented at all. See the details on using a Minimosd with a GPS as a standalone OSD. If you get it working before I get round to it then please let us know. Best of luck!
+Leon Close If it wasn't an APM I'd say use a KV_Mod MinimOSD and connect it to the main battery directly but you can't do that with an APM - different firmware on the OSD. If you really want Voltage then look at a PM. Best of luck!
Thanks for the response. I've gone with a Tarot OSD in series with the Minim, just for the voltage readout. Probably weighs less than the PM and I already have it.
Hi, I'm just figuering out how to connect the MinimOSD to an APM 3.1 while using a GPS in the same time. The problem is, that the GPS should be plugged in the port, which I though, it is the telemetry port for the OSD. Could you help me with that?
HI !!! I have a problem .Apm mini 3.1 board has only one telemetry port .so how do I connect telemetry radio and minimosd both into the board same time ????
+Vivek Ajgaonkar I'd use something like the HobbyKing Camera switch between the cameras and the OSD (check out our review in the 'Reviews' playlist. Best of luck!
+Painless360 We already went through the switcher, what i understand is, it is used to switch between video for live feed? Does it also serve the purpose of clicking images in flight?
It only changes the camera feed, not sure what you're asking. There are devices to operate the 'shutter' on a traditional SLR camera if that's what you mean..
Do you mean combine two images into one for transmission? Sorry, I'm really not following what you are trying to do. Book a support call (see the website for charges) and we can take a deeper look..
+Painless360 any issues with the Micro MinimOSD loosing its memory of panel layout after flashing? It seems as though firmware and character updates take to the board just fine, but for some reason after all systems boot, it reverts back to the original panel layout. I've tried powering the board with just USB 5V and the UAVs own 5V regulator, it seems to forget both times. I've also tried two different Micro MinimOSD chips, which then really just points to the firmware. Maybe you've got a link to some latest+greatest firmware?
I have two boards, both behave the same. I think it's either firmware related or power related. Seemingly usb powering it would rule out power being an issue... just not sure.
Trying to config the Minim OSD I purchased off Amazon. Connected to FTDI interface & computer .. tried to do a read & got 'failed to talk to bootloader'. Also said Eeprom was out of date & it tried to update, but that also failed. When plugged in, the Mini OSD board has 2 red LED lit, and a green heartbeat flashing, so the unit appears to be working to some extent. I have the TX/RX lines crossed to the FTDI board. Any ideas?
i have the same setup, but i cant get any osd inputs exept on the screan i can see runcam v2.2 waiting mavlink heartbeats.... and i can see this when usb cable is conected to apm. if i unplug usb screan comes black and i cant see anything.
+Painless360 I found the problem, problem was that i was powering apm from my ESC and it seams that it was to low power for everything. I have added UBEC 5V/5A and now it works. But now i have another question. Is it posible to get battery voltage on screen from two vires GND and +5v, or i have to use APM power module?
The answer is - not easily. If you add both then the signal can be pulled down and both the telemetry devices can't clearly 'hear' what's coming out of the port. You need to choose one or the other or look to add a signal buffer. This is why the Pixhawk has more than one telemetry port. Best of luck!
I’m having an issue where I select Rtl on a toggle switch and it’s not being displayed on the osd. I’ve connected the apm to ardupilot and selected rtl threw the transmitter and it registered in the software. Any reason for that? It displays stability and FWBA modes fine but when I select RTL it just show the last mode while in rtl
hi painless. a quick question. my minimosd works fine and does everything it should but only after the telemetry link to ground station is started. I can stop the GCS and it is fine but it seems like the telemetry is required to start the messages flowing. any ideas what settings make it work? I dont want to take a laptop each time I fly but I do want the osd. cheers
I wonder if you have come across my problem with the MinimOSD on an APM 3.1. On powering up the craft 'Arducam OSD V2.2' appears, then a booting up message, then 'Requesting datastreams' and then the correct OSD overlay appears for 1sec and then disappears and the message 'Overspead 45m/h' stays on with the camera image. I have two MinimOSD boards and they both do it? Do you have any ideas as to what might be going on. Many thanks again.
Just a quick note in case somebody else has the same problem: Swapped Tx and Rx cables and got message waiting for Mavlink heartbeat. Swapped them back but no improvement, on a whim swapped them back again but this time swapped again with the system live and the OSD stayed up. Powered down and and back up, hey presto comes on every time.
I have connected OSD to APM 2.6 works great with all modes except when I switch to Auto mode (ch8) all OSD info goes away but I still can see the camera, any ideas please
+PAL- GATE I'd suspect that you have a setting on the OSD to blank the display and it's using that channel to activate it.. if check the OSD settings. I think we cover this in one of the APM series.. best of luck!
Hello. I have small question. My configuration pixhawk + miniosd + frsky x8r. All configures and work fine. In mission planner I see rxrssi with correct value. But on OSD screen I do not see rssi icon and value but in ArduCam I placed rssi. Do you know how I can fix this issue? Maybe need other firmware ? Not arducam-osd ?
hi, is it possible to do mavlink and osd for fpv at the same time on the apm 3.1? couse its using the same telemetry port on the board i guess its not possible?
jelle buyckx It is but you can't connect the tx line from the OSD. If you google the question you will find a few articles and even cables (i.e @111612298603) that let you do it but there are reports that having two devices on the APM boards can pull down the signals from the port on the APM and cause issues. Using one or the other works.
yeah couse they sell it in a package... been looking for it and i have seen pics that they just connectet the rx and the tx of the osd and the mavlink togheter and then crossed it to the tx and rx on the board. thanks for reply. alsow do u know what power module is compactible on the v3.1 mini? couse i cant find mutch info on that. are they all compactible on 2.* and 3.* mini board?
Hi, the ones sold as part of a kit should be right. The connector is different and the pinouts are different too - ruclips.net/video/M6OSp05Y5b8/видео.html Use your voltmeter to check if you are not sure. Happy flying!
The 3.1 and the 2.7/2.8 versions are functionally the same but just come in different packages. I would always go for the APM 2.X if you have the room as they are easier to connect everything up to.. Hope this helps.
Because no voltage sensor is fitted to the craft. Google 'APM power module' to see one.. I suggest you watch the APM 3.1 series as these, and other key points, are covered in the other videos - ruclips.net/p/PLYsWjANuAm4pCP3jjSAcmDJIEmyaEregs Happy flying!
There are two small boards that people used to use back in the days when on screen displays will not installed as part of the flight controller. Typically called minimosd or micro minimosd, they were typically used to add on screen displays to pretty much everything. The firmware was available to support pixhawk, APM and other flight controllers too. See my videos on the Naz E32 and things like the Seriously pro F3 for more detail. Best of luck..
Dobrov time of the day, I really like your video, but looking I do not understand a single word of Russian, I'm doing everything as you are connected no OSD vyhodit.OSD works only when power is connected via the Micro USB
Hello, Any advice on how to set this board up on a free standing setup? Say, with a KK 2.1.5 board just to monitor voltage? I have found the firmware that allows this here, but there are no instructions on how to do this. I have heard that a GPS and a compass can be used without a flight controller for return to home arrow, and a few other options. Any advice would be helpful www.dropbox.com/s/86x68rnqpbi3ga6/MW_OSD_standalone%20%281%29.zip?dl=0
+Painless360 Simple OSD solutions for the KK type boards. One with artificial horizon called a DALRC OSD, and one based on the older Remzibi made by tarot, but with no artificial horizon. Both have a GPS included. It can be done with the Minim OSD, ( with a compass gps for a home arrow) but there are always config problems, and hair loss. www.thanksbuyer.com/dalrc-qosd-quadcopter-fpv-a-v-transmitting-module-remote-control-diy-package-for-rc-multicopter-aerial-41584 www.fpvmodel.com/tarot-osd-image-overlay-system-with-gps-tl300l-_g890.html Thanks for responding
Also, here's my wiring diagram. I also thought it might be because I disconnected the 5V+ from the telemetry modem, but the board seems to power up just fine without that. I didn't want to pull to much current from that wire, so I connected the 5V regulator as shown directly to the battery. But perhaps that why the board cant seem to remember my panel layout? I'm using APM as my autopilot. photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNF_X-lGrj1zhNZ_BYAPpFv88bDo2h9Ifz1MH4R
+Painless360 how's this. Also I reflashed the panel settings 3 times last night. On the third time, it worked. Very hard to reproduce. imgur.com/YRKuNSk
Only the ones in my videos - those are the ones that I've used here and then used in the channel as they seem to be the most 'reliable'. Best of luck with it.
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Thanks for the hand holding. I have been fighting with a PX4 that I thought was not sending data but following your guide I now have full OSD, woo hoo!
Next step install it all in the Bix3.
Thanks again.
+David Bock Glad to hear it worked! Best of luck with the install into plane..
Shame you are not doing an APM 3.1 minimOsd with radio telemetry tutorial. That is the tutorial I have been hoping to see! Nevertheless , I appreciate all the hard work you have put into making these tutorials. Thank you!
If you get the right cable you can follow this and the other video that covers the MAVLink radios with APM Mini 3.1 (ruclips.net/video/0lINt4hv5tg/видео.html) to add them both to the model at the same time.
As a side question, all of these videos are done for free. Would you pay to see that video you want? I am considering offering a subscription service for requests and one to one support.
If not, best of luck with it. Happy flying!
Thanks for this video i was wondering how the 12v was going to connect to my 5v eachine fpv..turning the whole board into 5v is great. now i need to convert the eachine plug and play system to what you have shown. hope it will work. thanks again. love your tutorials.
Lee: Is choosing PAL or NTSC (for USA) under video options important? I have a jittery overlay and video from camera is stable.
Thanks for all the videos!
+Derr Nav One gives you more lines, the other a faster refresh rate. You normally need to make sure that all of the pieces in the FPV system have the same settings to work well. You can usually tell quite easily when you haven't as you don't get a stable image!
Awesome video thanks very much. I have a question, if we soder these two spots on OSD, and plug the OSD only to 5 volt APM, where the main 12 volt battery voltage can be collected to be shown on OSD ? Please let me know, Regards
using this workflow, is there a way to add geotagging to an on screen display? for example have a center dot and the lattitude and longitude of that center dot? (perhaps also a grid square of 9 dots with lat / long?).
Then if the camera is a gimbal, changing the direction and angle of the camera would update the osd of teh center dot's lattitude and longitude?
It's not something I've seen. There are geotagging options in Ardupilot but the stuff I've seen is more for tagging images at the location they were taken... Happy flying
@@Painless360 thanks! yeah would probably need something like raspberry pi or nvidia jetson to make a real time geo-tagging of the location where the camera points to
Would be great to see if this is working for pixhawk as well, cause i can see some functions which have been added to the minimosd-extra firmware only. Futhermore i would be interested to set the RSSI and the appropriated alarms correctly ;-)
Thank you for your detailed videos. Have you noticed that Pixhawk v. 3.2.1 no longer displays the flight mode on Minimosd...or is it just my rig? Is there a fix?
No idea sorry. I would have a look through the release notes. Best if luck.
great tutorial, same method for the Pixhawk 2.4.8 ?
From the software point of view, yes. Best of luck
@@Painless360 thanks!. yes just a different set of cables... 2 question, if the system is running of 4s and the minimOsd has 12v and 5v how to go about it?, ... 2nd question in the last part of your video you say no power is given from the vtx to the cam, why ? and i ask this because i see the red wire of the vtx and cam connected so isnt the vtx supplying 5v out to the cam?
Not sure, there are several versions of the MinimOSD board. You can use BECs to drop the flight battery voltage to the level you need.... best of luck
@@Painless360 thanks for the reply sir
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Thanks for the awesome video
Can you upload a tutorial on how to put up an airspeedsensor on Mini APM 3.1.. been searching all over the internet can't find anything. Much Thanks!
Oh and another question (sorry to be a pest). I've seen your video on how to configure a Taranis to for send it's RSSI signal to a Naze32 over a PPM channel. Can the same thing be done with an APM and have the APM forward the RSSI info onto the MinimOSD? If so, anything we should know?
Andrew Smith Not as elegant - copter.ardupilot.com/wiki/common-optional-hardware/common-rssi-received-signal-strength-indication/
Painless360 No not quite but it'll do the job. Cheers.
Are You using same battery for apm/esc/minimosd and video tx? There are many wornings not using same ground powering video and apm/minimosd.
Marcin Glodek Yep - same pack for everything. I have never had any problems.
Happy flying!
Totally appreciate your work, great job, quick question I know it is an old video but I am having one issue hopping anyone has any solution, I am connecting it with Pixhwak cube, and all things run smoothly, just as u described in the video sometime the overlay doesn't come when it starts or boots up, you have to manually reset it, is there any way around this?
I never found a solution. If you do, please let me know. Happy flying!
Are the "in/out" on the MinimOSD actually ins and outs? AFAIK they are connected together, so a simple "Y"-harness between cam/VTX/OSD is enough? I have a Aomway camera with backpack, but it does also have the connector for the VTX exposed - so I could wire it up to a OSD.
That's the way I've always connected them and they work great. The MinimOSD is overlaying the text into the video signal so there needs to be an in and an out.. Happy flying!
Hmm, maybe you're right. I can see the ground and VCC are connect together, so that could be simplified.
I might be confusing it with my Mini OSD, or "G-OSD" where there is no in/out, the signal are just spliced together
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I have the 3DR 915MHz telemetry module and was thinking I could just split the wires from the APM so that I have a telemetry feed going into both the MinimOSD as well as the 3DR telemetry module. This should work OK shouldn't it or will there be too much drain trying to run both devices simultaneously?
Andrew Smith This is a common thing for builders to try. The issue is exactly as you describe with the load on the output becoming too great. I have seen 'buffer' circuits to allow this but never used one myself. Best of luck.
Painless360 Damn. Time to google 'buffer circuits'. Cheers.
I have an APM2.8 running both the minimosd micro, plus a 3dr telemetry module. But for the osd the only connection i made to the telemetry socket on the apm was the tx, i run that to the rx on the osd. I powered the osd from a separate 5v supply independent from the apm. This way i have had no issues. At first i used the splitter cable that came with the telemetry kit which powered both the telemetry module and the osd from the telemetry socket on the apm, that caused problem with both the osd and telemetry module. Since powering the osd from a separate supply i have had no problems.
I would like to see apm mini 3.1 with minim osd and radio telemetry in a video tutorial if that's possible. Thank you again for very nice tutorials!
You can purchase a 3DR telemetry cable on there website that has the splitter built in for the OSD
As Jon has already said, if you get the right cable you can follow this and the other video that covers the MAVLink radios with APM Mini 3.1 (ruclips.net/video/0lINt4hv5tg/видео.html) to add them both to the model at the same time. You do need to watch the signal level from the Tx pin from the APM as having both devices connected can pull the signal level down to a point where there can be errors. Seems to happen on some boards and not others.
As a side question, all of these videos are done for free. Would you pay to see that video you want? I am considering offering a subscription service for requests and one to one support.
If not, best of luck with it. Happy flying!
Question: Why did you split the ground from the transmitter by going to the OSD then to the Camera? If the entire board is being powered by the 5 V bridges what is the use of splitting the ground? Why not send the ground directly to the camera and just run the video in and out to the OSD? What am I missing?
Why do *you* think they might do that?
Only thing I can think off is isolation for noise.
Think about the instances where there is one huge battery powering the model and another smaller, dedicated battery used to power the FPV system. In that case having a common ground for both systems is essential and ensures correct operation.
Hope this makes sense.
I trust you. Still a little fuzzy, you proved it works so that is the way I will wire it.
Jon, even the very latest version of the MinimOSD board (www.hobbyrc.co.uk/micro-minimosd-for-naze32-with-multiwii-osd-kv-team-mod) is wired this way with a GND and Signal both in and out.
Interestingly the latest version of the board *has* done away with the 12v power connection - maybe I was onto something ;)
Happy flying!
Only this firmware can be used for APM? What about MWosd or KVteam, or any other? They look much cooler for me. :)
Gašper Kolenc They are and with improved options for fonts and features too! Sadly these teams developing the firmware fro the MinimOSD are working on each project individually and you tend to find that a lot of the Multiwii/Naze32/Flip32 versions are evolving faster as the community is more active and there are more boards out there.
If you find a better one that this let me know!
Painless360 I doubt I will find better one before you. :)
You never know - I am up to my armpits in the world of CC3D at the moment creating that new series..
Painless360 Maybe remzibi could be good alternative. Today I receive a remzibi for mistake from China. I ordered ublox m8n, but receive remzibi with ublox 6m.
forgive this noob question, but I don't understand that everything is connected. isn't it supposed to be sent wirelessly ? is the video out supposed to go to a wireless video tx and then to the screen?
Please see the 'Introduction to FPV' series on the channel, all of the basics are covered in there for new builders.. Best of luck!
Sir plz made a complete setup of apm pro like its connections and all,
+Bik Star thank you for the suggestion but the APM platform is now seriously losing support. In my last flight controller comparison video I said as much. I’ve moved onto Pixhawk on all models now.
What are you using as the video transmitter and video receiver?
Ryan Kinzie FatShark here mainly. I do have a Diversity screen as well. You can see them all in videos in this series - ruclips.net/p/PLYsWjANuAm4pG2vYkZ-LUzBIIRG19J-Tm
Happy flying!
Thank you so much! All of the videos on your channel have been amazingly helpful
I followed your instructions on this, thanks for that.
Everything is updating except the battery voltage...:-(
Also updated in Mission planner (version 1.3.41) by clicking the osd tab.
Any suggestions?
+Pol leke not sure what you are describing..
Sorry to bother you like this, but i could not find the an answer.
This is what I mean. I have followed your instructions. So I connected everything the right way (checked, dubble checked and triple checked)
On my Taranis the voltage of my flight battery is reading fine (from the RX module FrSky Lite FUL-1) for example 12.1 volts
But when I look in my FPV goggles, the voltage is floating from 11.20 to 11.43
And it's always the same values, even when the battery voltage is on 10.7 the goggles are still showing between 11.20 and 11.43
I've not seen this - I'd check that he voltage is appearing right in the GUI and then see if there is an adjustment in the OSD software. Best of luck!
Hi sir... Salam alikam... Hope you will be fine... Sir kindly if you can make a video about miniosd setup with pixhalk 2.4.8 and which firmware can be compatible of osdmini with pixhalk.. bcz I am facing issue about the mini osd layout is not showing if I connect osdmini with pixhalk telemetry port 1...
(waiting for mavelink data.)..
But if I connect mini osd with Apm it working fine and giving the desired layout on the screen...
Then why not with pixhalk bcz both flight controller are configured on mission plannner????🙏
ruclips.net/video/ghhqSGxdIwQ/видео.html was my most recent video on the subject. Best of luck
Hi Professor, would this work the same for Pixhawk using arducam instead of Minimosd extra where there are some issues on AC3.2.1 and 3.3? I am tempted to try it, as I have poor results with the minimosd extra r800 (which is recommended, on telem 2 with some mods on the firmware parameters for this port...). and to complicate the issue, I am using a 3 way switch on this setup, and off course, nothing works! ;) Just to know if you tried this OSD firmware on Pixhawk, first before moving on.... Cheers and Safe Flying!
Any Minimosd firmware that expects MAVLink heartbeats should work. I've not tried it yet on the PixHawk.. Best of luck!
I'm very new to using OSD's and I was wondering whether it always requires some sort of FC to run an OSD? I want to add one to a flying wing but it doesn't have any sort of FC for stabilization. Is there any other way to add for example a minim OSD to the wing without an FC? Would be very thankful for help
+Johnny 250 you can but it is not well documented at all. See the details on using a Minimosd with a GPS as a standalone OSD. If you get it working before I get round to it then please let us know. Best of luck!
Is there any way to get a battery voltage reading without using a power module?
+Leon Close If it wasn't an APM I'd say use a KV_Mod MinimOSD and connect it to the main battery directly but you can't do that with an APM - different firmware on the OSD. If you really want Voltage then look at a PM. Best of luck!
Thanks for the response. I've gone with a Tarot OSD in series with the Minim, just for the voltage readout. Probably weighs less than the PM and I already have it.
Hi, I'm just figuering out how to connect the MinimOSD to an APM 3.1 while using a GPS in the same time. The problem is, that the GPS should be plugged in the port, which I though, it is the telemetry port for the OSD. Could you help me with that?
+ZomhadRC Are they sharing one Port? I could easily solder me a Y-cable, would this work?
+ZomhadRC Not the same port at all. See 10:56. Best of luck.
+Painless360 Thank you very much! Stupid me didn't see it underneath theire :D Cheers, may you have a nice evening!
OSD only works when the power is supplied via USB without understanding what is necessary delobmozhen shtoto solder?
+Максим Иванов Check that the OSD is getting 5v when powered from the battery. I would check that the power connections are ok. Best of luck.
HI !!! I have a problem .Apm mini 3.1 board has only one telemetry port .so how do I connect telemetry radio and minimosd both into the board same time ????
+Nayana Pathirana with a Y split cable like this.
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Hey, i am using APM Mini 3.1 and plan on using 2 on-board cameras. How do i click images using a Minim OSD & Telemetry setup?
+Vivek Ajgaonkar I'd use something like the HobbyKing Camera switch between the cameras and the OSD (check out our review in the 'Reviews' playlist. Best of luck!
+Painless360 We already went through the switcher, what i understand is, it is used to switch between video for live feed? Does it also serve the purpose of clicking images in flight?
It only changes the camera feed, not sure what you're asking. There are devices to operate the 'shutter' on a traditional SLR camera if that's what you mean..
+Painless360 I want to capture images from two onboard SJ4000 cameras at the same time (to get two different type of images)....how do i do it?
Do you mean combine two images into one for transmission? Sorry, I'm really not following what you are trying to do. Book a support call (see the website for charges) and we can take a deeper look..
If someone could help,
Are the steps used setting up the "MICRO OSD"? The same as the full sized in this tutorial?
If you mean the smaller version of the MinimOSD - see my videos on that...
Can I use this module without a flight controller? I want an OSD for my FPV car and I want to know at what angle I'm tilted sideways...
I did see some work on this where you could add a GPS and have it as a 'stand-alone' OSD but I've never played with it..
@@Painless360 I'll do more research on it then. You're the man, you helped me with two things now today, thank you so much!
+Painless360 any issues with the Micro MinimOSD loosing its memory of panel layout after flashing? It seems as though firmware and character updates take to the board just fine, but for some reason after all systems boot, it reverts back to the original panel layout. I've tried powering the board with just USB 5V and the UAVs own 5V regulator, it seems to forget both times. I've also tried two different Micro MinimOSD chips, which then really just points to the firmware. Maybe you've got a link to some latest+greatest firmware?
+Jeremy Stromsoe Hi, I've not seen that here. Have you another board you can try?
I have two boards, both behave the same. I think it's either firmware related or power related. Seemingly usb powering it would rule out power being an issue... just not sure.
Does seem odd. What firmware are you using?
Trying to config the Minim OSD I purchased off Amazon. Connected to FTDI interface & computer .. tried to do a read & got 'failed to talk to bootloader'. Also said Eeprom was out of date & it tried to update, but that also failed. When plugged in, the Mini OSD board has 2 red LED lit, and a green heartbeat flashing, so the unit appears to be working to some extent. I have the TX/RX lines crossed to the FTDI board. Any ideas?
I've not used this technology for years so what I knew is in the video. Best of luck
i have the same setup, but i cant get any osd inputs exept on the screan i can see runcam v2.2 waiting mavlink heartbeats.... and i can see this when usb cable is conected to apm. if i unplug usb screan comes black and i cant see anything.
+Donatas Rudys Happy to help but please watch ruclips.net/video/olIqTiSJHIY/видео.html and come back to me with more detail of what you've tried..
+Painless360 I found the problem, problem was that i was powering apm from my ESC and it seams that it was to low power for everything. I have added UBEC 5V/5A and now it works. But now i have another question. Is it posible to get battery voltage on screen from two vires GND and +5v, or i have to use APM power module?
If you are looking for the battery voltage to be displayed in an OSD and on GCS then you need the Power Module. Best of luck!
I have a PL2303 and a CP2012, can either of those be used to program the Minimosd?
May do, I've not used them myself. A quick Google search should show you if others have been successful. Best of luck!
if this is connecting for telemetry port. where should i connect my telemetry. how to use fvp and telemetry at the same time
The answer is - not easily. If you add both then the signal can be pulled down and both the telemetry devices can't clearly 'hear' what's coming out of the port. You need to choose one or the other or look to add a signal buffer. This is why the Pixhawk has more than one telemetry port. Best of luck!
Thanks for the reply
I’m having an issue where I select Rtl on a toggle switch and it’s not being displayed on the osd. I’ve connected the apm to ardupilot and selected rtl threw the transmitter and it registered in the software. Any reason for that? It displays stability and FWBA modes fine but when I select RTL it just show the last mode while in rtl
Testing stuff on the branch won't always bahave in the way you expect. Try it in the air... Happy flying
hi painless.
a quick question.
my minimosd works fine and does everything it should but only after the telemetry link to ground station is started.
I can stop the GCS and it is fine but it seems like the telemetry is required to start the messages flowing.
any ideas what settings make it work?
I dont want to take a laptop each time I fly but I do want the osd.
cheers
You're lucky to get them both working from the same Telemetry output at all. The output on the APM wasn't designed to run two devices at once..
ok. thanks. I thought the Y cable was the standard. I will read some more.
Is there a way to directly connect my x8r rssi to the minim osd on a plane without a flight controller to get rssi in my goggles?
Not sure, I've not tried it. I'd bet someone in the forums has figured it out.. best of luck!
Fuzzy images when connected telemetry, why?
+Максим Иванов Happy to help but please watch ruclips.net/video/olIqTiSJHIY/видео.html and come back to me with more detail of what you've tried..
I wonder if you have come across my problem with the MinimOSD on an APM 3.1. On powering up the craft 'Arducam OSD V2.2' appears, then a booting up message, then 'Requesting datastreams' and then the correct OSD overlay appears for 1sec and then disappears and the message 'Overspead 45m/h'
stays on with the camera image. I have two MinimOSD boards and they both do it?
Do you have any ideas as to what might be going on.
Many thanks again.
I've not used that one here, from what I can recall. I'd try and swap the Tx and Rx cables.. Best of luck!
Thanks for trying, appreciate it.
Just a quick note in case somebody else has the same problem: Swapped Tx and Rx cables and got message waiting for Mavlink heartbeat. Swapped them back but no improvement, on a whim swapped them back again but this time swapped again with the system live and the OSD stayed up. Powered down and and back up, hey presto comes on every time.
I have connected OSD to APM 2.6 works great with all modes except when I switch to Auto mode (ch8) all OSD info goes away but I still can see the camera, any ideas please
+PAL- GATE I'd suspect that you have a setting on the OSD to blank the display and it's using that channel to activate it.. if check the OSD settings. I think we cover this in one of the APM series.. best of luck!
thanks, I will do
Yes you are absolutely right, it's in the OSD configuration, OSD Toggle channel defaulted to channel 8, I disabled it
Hello. I have small question. My configuration pixhawk + miniosd + frsky x8r. All configures and work fine. In mission planner I see rxrssi with correct value. But on OSD screen I do not see rssi icon and value but in ArduCam I placed rssi. Do you know how I can fix this issue? Maybe need other firmware ? Not arducam-osd ?
+RC Copter I've not seen that myself. I would check the settings it the OSD.. Best of luck.
is there a way to get the osd working without having to connect to a ground station.
+rio787 Not sure what you're asking.. The image appears in any display you're using for FPV - Goggles, screen, DVR etc..
Now where you can download this software?
+pau a.m. Links in the video...
hi, is it possible to do mavlink and osd for fpv at the same time on the apm 3.1? couse its using the same telemetry port on the board i guess its not possible?
jelle buyckx It is but you can't connect the tx line from the OSD. If you google the question you will find a few articles and even cables (i.e @111612298603) that let you do it but there are reports that having two devices on the APM boards can pull down the signals from the port on the APM and cause issues. Using one or the other works.
yeah couse they sell it in a package... been looking for it and i have seen pics that they just connectet the rx and the tx of the osd and the mavlink togheter and then crossed it to the tx and rx on the board. thanks for reply. alsow do u know what power module is compactible on the v3.1 mini? couse i cant find mutch info on that. are they all compactible on 2.* and 3.* mini board?
Hi, the ones sold as part of a kit should be right. The connector is different and the pinouts are different too - ruclips.net/video/M6OSp05Y5b8/видео.html
Use your voltmeter to check if you are not sure.
Happy flying!
can the apm 3.1 mini do the same things as the 2.* ones? ore dois it have let options/features? is it stupid to buy a apm 2.7 ore so nowadays?
The 3.1 and the 2.7/2.8 versions are functionally the same but just come in different packages. I would always go for the APM 2.X if you have the room as they are easier to connect everything up to..
Hope this helps.
Why the voltage is 0 ?
Because no voltage sensor is fitted to the craft. Google 'APM power module' to see one..
I suggest you watch the APM 3.1 series as these, and other key points, are covered in the other videos - ruclips.net/p/PLYsWjANuAm4pCP3jjSAcmDJIEmyaEregs
Happy flying!
I have followed this over and over and still when I try to update firmware or Flash bootloader I get the error "Cannot talkt to Bootloader."
No idea, are you talking about on the MinimOSD or the APM?.....
on the MinimOSD. Can get it to connect but when I try to update firmware it errors out saying Try Auduino every time.
Double check you have the right programmer and board type selected.. Best of luck!
Can i use mini OSD with betaflight controllers?
Most modern flight controllers have them built in now. Those that don’t will almost always support and external MinimOSD.. best of luck!
noob warning.So its same as minimOSD?I use XSRF3E,its compatible?Sorry again for noob questions.
There are two small boards that people used to use back in the days when on screen displays will not installed as part of the flight controller. Typically called minimosd or micro minimosd, they were typically used to add on screen displays to pretty much everything. The firmware was available to support pixhawk, APM and other flight controllers too. See my videos on the Naz E32 and things like the Seriously pro F3 for more detail. Best of luck..
Dobrov time of the day, I really like your video, but looking I do not understand a single word of Russian, I'm doing everything as you are connected no OSD vyhodit.OSD works only when power is connected via the Micro USB
+Максим Иванов Then I would check that both sides of the boards are powered (check the solder pads we look at in the video). Best of luck.
Hello,
Any advice on how to set this board up on a free standing setup? Say, with a KK 2.1.5 board just to monitor voltage? I have found the firmware that allows this here, but there are no instructions on how to do this. I have heard that a GPS and a compass can be used without a flight controller for return to home arrow, and a few other options.
Any advice would be helpful
www.dropbox.com/s/86x68rnqpbi3ga6/MW_OSD_standalone%20%281%29.zip?dl=0
No we've not. For simple voltage monitoring we use the features of the FRSky receivers. Best of luck!
+Painless360 Simple OSD solutions for the KK type boards. One with artificial horizon called a DALRC OSD, and one based on the older Remzibi made by tarot, but with no artificial horizon. Both have a GPS included.
It can be done with the Minim OSD, ( with a compass gps for a home arrow) but there are always config problems, and hair loss.
www.thanksbuyer.com/dalrc-qosd-quadcopter-fpv-a-v-transmitting-module-remote-control-diy-package-for-rc-multicopter-aerial-41584
www.fpvmodel.com/tarot-osd-image-overlay-system-with-gps-tl300l-_g890.html
Thanks for responding
Also, here's my wiring diagram. I also thought it might be because I disconnected the 5V+ from the telemetry modem, but the board seems to power up just fine without that. I didn't want to pull to much current from that wire, so I connected the 5V regulator as shown directly to the battery. But perhaps that why the board cant seem to remember my panel layout? I'm using APM as my autopilot.
photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNF_X-lGrj1zhNZ_BYAPpFv88bDo2h9Ifz1MH4R
+Jeremy Stromsoe Sadly I can't see the image - I get a file not found error..
+Painless360 how's this. Also I reflashed the panel settings 3 times last night. On the third time, it worked. Very hard to reproduce. imgur.com/YRKuNSk
The wiring looks fine. I'd be tempted to try another version of the firmware. Best of luck with it!
+Painless360 Any suggestions? Firmware I'm using looks dated and there are dozens of variants.
Only the ones in my videos - those are the ones that I've used here and then used in the channel as they seem to be the most 'reliable'. Best of luck with it.