very tired of it. carrying full time truck camper at 3200 lbs though. will this work with that? want to preserve payload capacity of ram3500 dually, but need a better ride.
What is your opinion on a basic Carli commuter kit with 295/65r20s. 21 F250 powerstroke. Won't spend much time off road but lots of frost heaves in the roads around here.
You should do a video where you explain the benefits of each of the add on options for the carli suspension systems, and the cons on not choosing each particular option.
I have a 17 F350 Limited and put the commuter system with the add a pack on the truck and the ride went all to hell. Not sure if there is something else that needs to be done to get the great ride you guys talk about. As of now, it is the biggest waste of money I have spent on a truck. This thing rides like a log wagon now vs the stock ride.
Love this thorough comparison paired with footage of actually off-roading scenarios. So many videos just show someone crawling over a speed bump to show the difference.
Can’t wait to get my 7.3 Tremor out of the shop. I’m having the Carli E-Venture catalog thrown at it along with 37x12.5 Ridge Grapplers. Curious how it’ll drive/ride in similar higher speed scenarios with the good bit lighter 7.3. Then to spice up the 7.3 for more HP!
This has got to be one of the best comparisons bar none! Stock truck popping a fuel supply line?!!! Wow, that has got to be some impact force to jar loose the fuel line clip!! Great job guys!! Nicely done!!!
Most super duty’s running these same roads are bone stock with zero trouble but the difference your showing is very nice, and might prevent vibration damage that haunts heavy duty trucks
That was the main reason for me upgrading to a fully optioned Backcountry kit for my 2013 F250...my wife refused to ride in my truck until I did something about the ride. Lol 🤷🏻♂️
My wife’s the biggest penny pincher in the world, only thing that would sell her on a Carli suspension is if the stock suspension made her teeth rattle and ended up being a bigger bill at the dentist lol.
Fellas, I say enough about the full Carli Backcountry 2.0, 2.5 and Method NV 301 18x9s on 37x12.5 you sold me. It is a totally different truck. No more slowing down for railroad crossings.
Great video comparison! I’d like to see how the Carli setup compares to the tremor on the same roads. No doubt the Carli is better, but I think there are a lot of tremor owners like myself that are thinking of the upgrade.
Great video, the performance differences between the stock truck and the Carli equipped truck are stark to put it lightly. The stocker doing its best dolphin impression over the whoops lol.
Great video!!! Have not had my ‘20 F350 offroad, but I’m not at all impressed with its suspension on road. Shocks are way stiff, every bump is felt. This video is very telling even though you can’t feel it. You can definitely see the differences in the behavior of the two rigs. So now you got me wanting to do the full Carli setup.
Awesome video. Well done. I feel like Carli should have done something like this a long time ago. Really helps the consumer to see what they’re getting. 👍🏻
Good job on showing the difference. Once I get my Ford tremor. I will definitely be looking for some suggestions and recommendations. InPre order a 2021 Ford Tremor king ranch will have the winch as well. Thank you for the video. Very informative
The tremor actually has almost identical ride quality to a standard 4x4 Super Duty. We broke it down in a different video, but the Tremor suspension is not special in any way and offers very little ride quality improvement off road when compared to a fx4 or standard 4x4 Super Duty. A Tremor would handle exactly like the stock truck in this video did.
CJC Off Road - do you have any idea how much the new gas kits will lift a TREMOR? I know Carli lists the kit at 3” on their website but I’m sure that is for regular Super Duty trucks. I know the Tremor has a different ride height, so that why I was wondering. I’m anxiously waiting the release of the new Gas specific kits for my 2020 7.3L Tremor!
@@CJCOffRoad So what would I have to get my 2017 FX4 to look like the Tremor without the stock ride? Not interested in leveling, more about higher version of standard look (if that makes sense)
Damn what sucks is I watch these videos so much and visualize these nice suspension components on my vehicle but realistically I can’t afford this stuff right now especially in this roughed up time in the economy.. But trust me I will be seeing you guys soon to hook up my 2019 f350
Mark Farmer sane for me. I have a 2020 F350 and I’m also towing a 39 foot toy hauler. I would like to do the 2.5 inch pin top. But I’m concerned with hooking up the fifth wheel and the towing characteristics with the system. Cjc you guys have experience with this? Also I just got the new air lift 5000 air bags will this work with the Carli 2.5? Or will that not work on it?
@@barrthom603 Give us a call and we can help figure out a solution that works. It all depends on the tongue weight/pin weight of the trailer, but the Carli add a pack is typically our solution since it improves ride while maintaining full towing spec. You can also combine an airbag setup with Daystar cradles and Carli leaf spring for complete towing ability and a much smoother ride.
Absolutely awesome. Love the way your truck looks. Can't wait for my buddy to get his done. HURRY UP ON HIS PARTS!!!! We've been waiting for months! Lolll wanna get my Raptor and his Carli built truck out on the dirt ASAP!
What are the specs on the wheels? I already have the level kit back country 2.0. I tow 16k weekly so I have the add a packs. I'm running fuel 20s with 35x12.5s, but might want to change to a forged true-beedlock with 37s. Btw- I've ended up talking to both these guys several times on truck set-up and tuning. Super humble, very informative. I would never buy from anyone else on customer service alone.
These are a 17" wheel with 5" backspace which is perfect for 37s on these Super Duty trucks! 5.5" backspace works well too for a little less trimming. Glad you're enjoying the truck!
Great video! Thank you for the wealth of information. I am waiting for my 2022 and was just wondering if you could point me toward any reliable, approved installers that are located on Long Island, within 50 miles of 11901?
Great video guys! I'm now obsessed watching all of your videos and making lists of future purchases (from CJC)! Curious, how would the Carl suspension Pintop 2.5 king leveling kit work out in these locations?
We appreciate the support! The PT level handles well, but the factory rear springs definitely hold the truck back in comparison to the full pack shown in the video! It’s still very capable though.
If building/ordering a new F250 with the intent of upgrading to a Carli suspension, should we order a straight stock 4x4, or are any of the added options helpful - camper package (heavy service front springs/rear aux springs), etc? I'd like to avoid paying for hardware that will be removed.
Essentially avoid or consider any suspension option as a not essential part. Things like lockers or a winch that might come along with the Tremor package for example are useful though! The other thing to consider is that adding something like the camper package may get you the upgraded rear axle housing, which is a nice thing to have. Basically read through the packages carefully to make sure you get what you want, but assume all suspension parts will be removed.
The crazy part is, thats the Pin-top. Just wait until the alumiduty dominator or unchained truck comes out. 3.0s was easily the best purchase I've made.
@@CJCOffRoad Good. I like the diesels, but I don't think I need one. We'll see how it goes when I go shopping. I'm waiting to have a look at the '21 RAM. I really like what ya'll do. Hope we can do some "bitness" soon. Cheers!
It’s in the works! Just waiting on parts production which has been delayed thanks to COVID interrupting the supply chain. Expect all the Carli Ford gas systems to drop between this fall and winter!
@@CJCOffRoad looking to do a full upgrade to my 21 f250 7.3 gas. What parts and or kit do you recommend to also level the truck and provide a great ride like the truck on this video?
I am buying an F350 4X4 crewcab with an 8 foot bed. I plan on putting a 4,000 lb (Wet weight) slide in camper. I want to put a 4 inch lift with 37's or 35's. I don't want to get too high to mess with the center of gravity when the camper is on. Thoughts on suspension add?
That is a VERY heavy caper to put in the bed, so you’ll want to keep the truck as low as possible with a 2.5” Carli system and then do a custom rear leaf spring pack from Deaver.
Great video! What are your thoughts on this suspension for a stock 2022 F450? We just picked up our truck a couple of weeks ago and we'd love in improve the ride both towing and not. I don't think we can lift the truck since we tow our home (a large fiver toy hauler) and any added height would make us unlevel or too close to the bed rails...
I know this is an old video, but fleece makes a fix for this, now that yall are getting into the fords, even if yall don't do much to the engine. Fleece makes a fully california legal fix for this, which adds a lock to the fuel line and may save yall when yall are going offroad.
I would suspect you lose some towing capacity with this Carli suspension. With the addition of airbags...how close are you able to get back to the advertised stock towing capacity?
There’s several options that we covered in the video. With the full pack shown in this video, you retain 85% capacity. If you add the right airbags to that, you keep full capacity and keep ride quality. If you do the Carli add a pack leaf option, you also keep full capacity without the need for bags. The full pack option without bags will ride the best.
After making some serious money on DOGE. I will be buying this set up for my 2020 f250. But one question that I can’t seem to find is I have a f250 with heavy duty package which gives me a bigger differential and more springs in the rear. What package do I need for the springs???
I noticed the 2020 test truck was the stock 4x4, are you seeing the same results with the "FX4" upgrade? I'm thinking the $400 upgrade basically covered the skid plates and box decal. They were supposed to be upgraded off road shocks as well.
We have rear leaf options specific to trucks with in bed load and campers, as well as shock tuning to go along with it. This Ram build is a perfect example of what we can do on a Ford or Ram truck with a camper: ruclips.net/video/wPor-tpt9Lg/видео.html
Thinking About a new 2021 F250-F350. Is your suspension better than the Tremmer package. I want locking front and rear diff. At this point, ford does not offer a front locking diff. Help. By the way, I first saw your suspension on the new TFL truck.
The Tremor suspension is actually the same as a Factory 2018 F-350 in terms of performance, so a tremor would look just like the white truck in this video! The Carli suspension is a MASSIVE step up from factory ride!
I’d like to see what suspensions are available for f-250 3/4 xlt 2021 I work in oil&gas in midland Tx and New Mexico really rough lease roads and rough highways also is there repair shops in these areas ?
I work in the oilfield and some of the lease roads I drive down are down right horrible. Im really looking into investing in this. I pull up to 18000 trailers in my truck. How does this hold up to the weight when I'm pulling?
To a point, but you at least need to run the base coils/shocks along with the necessary supporting parts. Obviously the more you add, the better the ride
@@CJCOffRoad Fantastic. I just bought fox 2.0 shocks, Fox steering Stabilizer, and has 3 inch leveling kit. 4 inch. Block in rear springs and it's like riding in a bulldozer. In your professional opinion, what top 3 things I should change?
My stock, unladen 2019 F450 Cab and chassis 4x4 on the floor 205" V10 6-speed was brutal on smooth pavement. Any ripple in the pavement and you need to brace yourself. The 19.5" commercial tires suck and there is no wheel travel stock. Almost none. I think it's 5" in the front and it could be 5" in the rear as well, I don't know. But you're not going through any of that travel with no load on it. It might as well have no suspension, because if there's any hairpin or off-camber roundabout, it will lift one rear wheel and spin. I removed two of the rear leaf springs, and added Solastic Shackles. I would say those two things dampened noise from the rear by about 15%. I'm having my 2.5" lift Pintops installed now and 38" Ridge graps in 13.5" 20s to fit over the huge brakes. I got the Carli sway bar and end links and basically everything a 2.5" lift needs to run 38" graps. That should be a major breakthrough in comfort for a cab and chassis - even more so than upgrade for a pickup F450, which already came with pretty comfortable, low pressure tires. I'm going from 85 pounds min on the commercial tire, to 65 max on the Ridge grap LT tire. And going from duallies in the rear to super single rims from Hutchinson that are reversible front to rear, so you get maximum wear out of the tires, because they can be rotated effectively.
Ford needs to see this video and do something about the inadequate suspension setup for even basic ranch work. I don't see how the stock F350 could handle driving around on my Montana property, what the hell ? Seems surprising incapable.
In that case you’ll either want to use the factory leaf pack on a F-350 or do a custom leaf pack from Deaver designed for the weight. The latter option is definitely the preferred route!
37s themselves don’t make any more noise than a smaller tire. Tread pattern is the only thing that changes noise level, so just pick a quiet tread design and you’re set!
Hi CJC, Do you guys recommend or work with any shops in the Tampa, Orlando FL area ??? Looking to buy some of your kits for my Ram 2500 5th gen and I’m looking for a quality shop to do the install.
We have a few shops we work with in that area: Extreme Performance (Lower Central), American Muscle Performance Dan Grimm (Southern), Ostar Motorsports (Central). Hope that helps!
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Hey Cody
Is there a detail shop that you would recommend that does the ceramic coating using the Adam's products?
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very tired of it. carrying full time truck camper at 3200 lbs though. will this work with that? want to preserve payload capacity of ram3500 dually, but need a better ride.
What is your opinion on a basic Carli commuter kit with 295/65r20s. 21 F250 powerstroke. Won't spend much time off road but lots of frost heaves in the roads around here.
You should do a video where you explain the benefits of each of the add on options for the carli suspension systems, and the cons on not choosing each particular option.
I have a 17 F350 Limited and put the commuter system with the add a pack on the truck and the ride went all to hell. Not sure if there is something else that needs to be done to get the great ride you guys talk about. As of now, it is the biggest waste of money I have spent on a truck. This thing rides like a log wagon now vs the stock ride.
I can't look at Cody without seeing Toby from the Office...
At this point he just embraces it 😂
Love this thorough comparison paired with footage of actually off-roading scenarios. So many videos just show someone crawling over a speed bump to show the difference.
Absolutely awesome, you guys blew it out with this video. The "high" speed whoops section really sells it!
The poor stock truck definitely felt blown out after those whoops haha.
@@CJCOffRoad feel bad for the owner who let you guys do this😭
Can’t wait to get my 7.3 Tremor out of the shop. I’m having the Carli E-Venture catalog thrown at it along with 37x12.5 Ridge Grapplers. Curious how it’ll drive/ride in similar higher speed scenarios with the good bit lighter 7.3. Then to spice up the 7.3 for more HP!
You should be pretty happy! Give our E-Venture setup and tire pressure videos a watch too in order to get the most out of the truck.
This has got to be one of the best comparisons bar none! Stock truck popping a fuel supply line?!!! Wow, that has got to be some impact force to jar loose the fuel line clip!!
Great job guys!! Nicely done!!!
That poor truck had a rough day for sure! It died on us about 8-9 times while filming due to that fuel line.
00:46 Thats a big Jack Rabbit - Demonstration excellent, thanks again for all your video's.
I’m a ram guy but this was an awesome and informative watch! Really good comparison guys!
Much appreciated!
Most super duty’s running these same roads are bone stock with zero trouble but the difference your showing is very nice, and might prevent vibration damage that haunts heavy duty trucks
"Selling the wife on it" - yeah went through that so can totally attest to it... luckily for me she's a southern gal!
That was the main reason for me upgrading to a fully optioned Backcountry kit for my 2013 F250...my wife refused to ride in my truck until I did something about the ride. Lol 🤷🏻♂️
How much u got for it
My wife’s the biggest penny pincher in the world, only thing that would sell her on a Carli suspension is if the stock suspension made her teeth rattle and ended up being a bigger bill at the dentist lol.
Fellas, I say enough about the full Carli Backcountry 2.0, 2.5 and Method NV 301 18x9s on 37x12.5 you sold me. It is a totally different truck. No more slowing down for railroad crossings.
These guys know their stuff. Coils alone make a huge difference. At bare minimum commuter system with upper steering stabilizer.
Totally thought these two were the same guy for the longest time haha
I am running a 2018 f250 lariat tubo diesel engine with a 6inch lift on 37's and I love it ...😎
Can completely concur with everything said and shown in this video.
Man I'm convinced. I need a carli system. Actually painful to watch the stock truck go over those ruts.
Because these trucks are for towing not rock crawling . They need weight on the ass end to drive better , unloaded yeah it's stiff
Great video comparison! I’d like to see how the Carli setup compares to the tremor on the same roads. No doubt the Carli is better, but I think there are a lot of tremor owners like myself that are thinking of the upgrade.
The carli system is worth the coin. Maybe not necessarily the kings. But atleast the backcountry
The Tremors are nothing special suspension wise! They ride exactly the same as a stock 17+ Ford F-350 since they use almost identical suspension.
@@CJCOffRoad What would you recommend for a 2017 to set it up "Tremor like". I want about the same ride height and probably stick with 35s
Damn Skippy it is !!!
If people can't understand that they are not paying attention.
Great video, the performance differences between the stock truck and the Carli equipped truck are stark to put it lightly. The stocker doing its best dolphin impression over the whoops lol.
It looks majestic in slow-mo but man was it violent in cab!
Great video!!! Have not had my ‘20 F350 offroad, but I’m not at all impressed with its suspension on road. Shocks are way stiff, every bump is felt. This video is very telling even though you can’t feel it. You can definitely see the differences in the behavior of the two rigs. So now you got me wanting to do the full Carli setup.
@@jackj5368 - sadly, not yet, but it is still on the to-do list!
@@jackj5368 - how about you?
Awesome video. Well done. I feel like Carli should have done something like this a long time ago. Really helps the consumer to see what they’re getting. 👍🏻
Very good comparison. Now I understood what will I get if install carli suspension.
Glad you enjoyed it!
You guys do such a good job at all your videos and answering questions everyone has, keep it up!
We appreciate the support!
My 2020 Ram 2500 now rides like a dream with my Carli suspension. South Louisiana roads SUCK!!! But no worries now.
Glad you’re enjoying it!
Great demonstration of the Carli suspension, thank you.
Good job on showing the difference. Once I get my Ford tremor. I will definitely be looking for some suggestions and recommendations. InPre order a 2021 Ford Tremor king ranch will have the winch as well. Thank you for the video. Very informative
Thanks for watching!
For the cost of these trucks, the stock suspension should be better. Or the Tremor package should be better at least.
We agree!
This was awesome! Thanks for taking the time to do this!
You convinced me I will be going with this system.. great video
Well, there goes $8,000 out of my bank account. Great video to see the comparison and definitely sold me.
Incredible video, on my life I will be getting this on my truck when I can afford it reasonably!
Would have liked to see a stock Tremor pkg comparison. Also what effect do these mods have on payload and towing? Tremor is quite capable stock.
The tremor actually has almost identical ride quality to a standard 4x4 Super Duty. We broke it down in a different video, but the Tremor suspension is not special in any way and offers very little ride quality improvement off road when compared to a fx4 or standard 4x4 Super Duty. A Tremor would handle exactly like the stock truck in this video did.
CJC Off Road - do you have any idea how much the new gas kits will lift a TREMOR? I know Carli lists the kit at 3” on their website but I’m sure that is for regular Super Duty trucks. I know the Tremor has a different ride height, so that why I was wondering. I’m anxiously waiting the release of the new Gas specific kits for my 2020 7.3L Tremor!
The Tremor will get 2.5” of lift from a Carli 2.5 system, or 4.5” if you want the taller 4.5 system.
CJC Off Road - thanks for the reply, that’s exactly what I needed to know. Keep up the great videos!!
@@CJCOffRoad So what would I have to get my 2017 FX4 to look like the Tremor without the stock ride? Not interested in leveling, more about higher version of standard look (if that makes sense)
What would be the difference in speed in the whoop section if you were running the back country system?
Damn great question, would have loved to see the Fox 2.0's thrown into the test.
+1 on this! I’m running backcountry on my 05 and would love to see how much better the 2.5 kings are
Great video and thanks for making this comparison, really shows what the difference is between stock and modified.
Damn what sucks is I watch these videos so much and visualize these nice suspension components on my vehicle but realistically I can’t afford this stuff right now especially in this roughed up time in the economy.. But trust me I will be seeing you guys soon to hook up my 2019 f350
Am I the only one that saw the jack rabbit run away from the truck at the :47 mark?
Really looking forward to the 2020 7.3 gas version!!!
_Nice, like the heads up comparison, it does show a lot! Question how much did you air down the stock tires and your Carli set-up tires?_
Both were dropped into the mid/high 20s for pressure.
CJC Off Road cool!
Awesome video guys. When I grab my super duty, I’ll bring it in for you guys to set it up.
Can't wait!
Can't wait to add Carli to my F-250, and call it my T-Rex. Great video off road oil field leas roads.
The main purpose of my 2020 F350 is towing my Airstream. How would this suspension setup work with towing? Thanks.
It works great! We have plenty of options from Carli that keep towing capacity!
Would this system change the towing capabilities of the truck in any way?
We’re in the market for a 40’ 5th wheel and an 2020 F-350.
Mark Farmer sane for me. I have a 2020 F350 and I’m also towing a 39 foot toy hauler. I would like to do the 2.5 inch pin top. But I’m concerned with hooking up the fifth wheel and the towing characteristics with the system. Cjc you guys have experience with this? Also I just got the new air lift 5000 air bags will this work with the Carli 2.5? Or will that not work on it?
@@barrthom603 Give us a call and we can help figure out a solution that works. It all depends on the tongue weight/pin weight of the trailer, but the Carli add a pack is typically our solution since it improves ride while maintaining full towing spec. You can also combine an airbag setup with Daystar cradles and Carli leaf spring for complete towing ability and a much smoother ride.
Awesome guys can’t wait to get my Carli kit installed real soon 👌
Great video guys 👍🏻 what a huge difference between the 2 trucks !!
It'll be so cool to go off road in that lifted truck!
It is crazy how bad the stock suspension is on a stocker. On a bad highway it gets so violent over large potholes I thought airbags would deploy.
Absolutely awesome. Love the way your truck looks. Can't wait for my buddy to get his done. HURRY UP ON HIS PARTS!!!! We've been waiting for months! Lolll wanna get my Raptor and his Carli built truck out on the dirt ASAP!
Omg there’s two of them
I thought it was the same guy just with out the glasses
Unrelated, what front bumper is on that 2018? Looks good.
Our own!
www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/ford-bumpers/products/cjc-built-2017-2019-ford-super-duty-front-bumper
Thanks for the comparison, great video. What are did you film in?
Most of this was filmed in Barstow, Ca with a few other So Cal locations tossed in.
@@CJCOffRoad Thank you for the reply. That looks like a fun place to camp and Quad ridding.
What are the specs on the wheels? I already have the level kit back country 2.0. I tow 16k weekly so I have the add a packs. I'm running fuel 20s with 35x12.5s, but might want to change to a forged true-beedlock with 37s.
Btw- I've ended up talking to both these guys several times on truck set-up and tuning. Super humble, very informative. I would never buy from anyone else on customer service alone.
These are a 17" wheel with 5" backspace which is perfect for 37s on these Super Duty trucks! 5.5" backspace works well too for a little less trimming. Glad you're enjoying the truck!
Hell yes!!! Love y’all’s videos.
Great video! Thank you for the wealth of information.
I am waiting for my 2022 and was just wondering if you could point me toward any reliable, approved installers that are located on Long Island, within 50 miles of 11901?
If you don't mind, send us an email to Sales@cjcoffroad.com so we can help!
What mpg are you getting on the lifted truck?
Thank you. You guys helped with my decision.
Great video guys! I'm now obsessed watching all of your videos and making lists of future purchases (from CJC)!
Curious, how would the Carl suspension Pintop 2.5 king leveling kit work out in these locations?
We appreciate the support! The PT level handles well, but the factory rear springs definitely hold the truck back in comparison to the full pack shown in the video! It’s still very capable though.
Watching this while owning a 02 f250 with leafs all around. 😥
can i bring you my 2021 tremor for all these cool upgrades and for the install?
Absolutely!
If building/ordering a new F250 with the intent of upgrading to a Carli suspension, should we order a straight stock 4x4, or are any of the added options helpful - camper package (heavy service front springs/rear aux springs), etc? I'd like to avoid paying for hardware that will be removed.
Essentially avoid or consider any suspension option as a not essential part. Things like lockers or a winch that might come along with the Tremor package for example are useful though! The other thing to consider is that adding something like the camper package may get you the upgraded rear axle housing, which is a nice thing to have. Basically read through the packages carefully to make sure you get what you want, but assume all suspension parts will be removed.
The crazy part is, thats the Pin-top. Just wait until the alumiduty dominator or unchained truck comes out. 3.0s was easily the best purchase I've made.
How does pintop differ from dominator or unchained?
@@user4567-d1n pin top is 2.5 dominator is a 3.0, and the unchained was bypass 3.0. And on the dodge its a 3.5 front and a quad bypass rear.
@@user4567-d1n look up the video on their page about the dominator 4th gen.
Joe Hansen Sounds badass. Thank you will do
What about the gas version of this truck and the Ram, as well? Do you have kits for them?
We do!
We do!
@@CJCOffRoad Good. I like the diesels, but I don't think I need one.
We'll see how it goes when I go shopping. I'm waiting to have a look at the '21 RAM.
I really like what ya'll do. Hope we can do some "bitness" soon.
Cheers!
Great video. because of this my mind is made up. its carli all the way. my only request is that carli makes a 4.5 for the 2020 7.3 gasser
It’s in the works! Just waiting on parts production which has been delayed thanks to COVID interrupting the supply chain. Expect all the Carli Ford gas systems to drop between this fall and winter!
@@CJCOffRoad looking to do a full upgrade to my 21 f250 7.3 gas. What parts and or kit do you recommend to also level the truck and provide a great ride like the truck on this video?
Cody what front bumper is that. Looks clean
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I am buying an F350 4X4 crewcab with an 8 foot bed. I plan on putting a 4,000 lb (Wet weight) slide in camper. I want to put a 4 inch lift with 37's or 35's. I don't want to get too high to mess with the center of gravity when the camper is on. Thoughts on suspension add?
That is a VERY heavy caper to put in the bed, so you’ll want to keep the truck as low as possible with a 2.5” Carli system and then do a custom rear leaf spring pack from Deaver.
Great video! What are your thoughts on this suspension for a stock 2022 F450? We just picked up our truck a couple of weeks ago and we'd love in improve the ride both towing and not. I don't think we can lift the truck since we tow our home (a large fiver toy hauler) and any added height would make us unlevel or too close to the bed rails...
For the money is Carli better than thuren on a 2016 ram 2500?
@cjc ever think about setting up a franchised shop on the east coast? Specifically Charlotte, nc?
2nd that
I know this is an old video, but fleece makes a fix for this, now that yall are getting into the fords, even if yall don't do much to the engine. Fleece makes a fully california legal fix for this, which adds a lock to the fuel line and may save yall when yall are going offroad.
Can’t wait until you have a kit for the 6.2 v8
Great video guys
Got a 3.25 for my 3500 ordered through you guys. Making its way to Australia
Great video, you make me want one setup like that. 😃
That's it, I'm bookin in!!😎
I would suspect you lose some towing capacity with this Carli suspension. With the addition of airbags...how close are you able to get back to the advertised stock towing capacity?
There’s several options that we covered in the video. With the full pack shown in this video, you retain 85% capacity. If you add the right airbags to that, you keep full capacity and keep ride quality. If you do the Carli add a pack leaf option, you also keep full capacity without the need for bags. The full pack option without bags will ride the best.
Do these two trucks have the same engine, trans and axle ratio? If so how does the miles per gallon compare, real world? Thanks...
Where did you guys shoot this video? Location is awesome!
It's shot all over So Cal!
Can you let us know where specifically the videos were shot ?
After making some serious money on DOGE. I will be buying this set up for my 2020 f250. But one question that I can’t seem to find is I have a f250 with heavy duty package which gives me a bigger differential and more springs in the rear. What package do I need for the springs???
You have the F-350 rear springs, but they’re the same parts as an F-250 for either the Carli add a pack or full replacement leaf pack.
Hey guys! Do you plan on or have any info on some lighting options for the 2019 Ram 1500s? I wanna get some of the squadrons in the fog light bezels.
I noticed the 2020 test truck was the stock 4x4, are you seeing the same results with the "FX4" upgrade? I'm thinking the $400 upgrade basically covered the skid plates and box decal. They were supposed to be upgraded off road shocks as well.
There’s unfortunately no upgrade in suspension performance or shocks with the Fx4 or Tremor package.
Did you burn the stock truck afterwards?
Excellent vid.
How does this affect cargo capacity and how would it handle a truck camper?
We have rear leaf options specific to trucks with in bed load and campers, as well as shock tuning to go along with it. This Ram build is a perfect example of what we can do on a Ford or Ram truck with a camper: ruclips.net/video/wPor-tpt9Lg/видео.html
Thinking About a new 2021 F250-F350. Is your suspension better than the Tremmer package. I want locking front and rear diff. At this point, ford does not offer a front locking diff. Help. By the way, I first saw your suspension on the new TFL truck.
The Tremor suspension is actually the same as a Factory 2018 F-350 in terms of performance, so a tremor would look just like the white truck in this video! The Carli suspension is a MASSIVE step up from factory ride!
I’d like to see what suspensions are available for f-250 3/4 xlt 2021 I work in oil&gas in midland Tx and New Mexico really rough lease roads and rough highways also is there repair shops in these areas ?
Wheel size, offset, level of trimming required?
Any shops in Denver you recommend? Also how much should one expect to pay for install of these kits?
I work in the oilfield and some of the lease roads I drive down are down right horrible. Im really looking into investing in this. I pull up to 18000 trailers in my truck. How does this hold up to the weight when I'm pulling?
Just fine! There’s lots of options for whatever you need to do with the truck on the Super Duty platform!
So can I just piece meal a Carli suspension? Like buy the components I want and achieve somewhat the same expectations? Carli?
To a point, but you at least need to run the base coils/shocks along with the necessary supporting parts. Obviously the more you add, the better the ride
@@CJCOffRoad Fantastic. I just bought fox 2.0 shocks, Fox steering Stabilizer, and has 3 inch leveling kit. 4 inch. Block in rear springs and it's like riding in a bulldozer. In your professional opinion, what top 3 things I should change?
No doubt the suspension is better but a better test is with the same tires and air pressure.
Cool video... what is the offset on Cody's 17in wheel?
They are 5” backspace which is around +1 offset.
Slowspeeds army has arrived
My stock, unladen 2019 F450 Cab and chassis 4x4 on the floor 205" V10 6-speed was brutal on smooth pavement. Any ripple in the pavement and you need to brace yourself. The 19.5" commercial tires suck and there is no wheel travel stock. Almost none. I think it's 5" in the front and it could be 5" in the rear as well, I don't know. But you're not going through any of that travel with no load on it. It might as well have no suspension, because if there's any hairpin or off-camber roundabout, it will lift one rear wheel and spin. I removed two of the rear leaf springs, and added Solastic Shackles. I would say those two things dampened noise from the rear by about 15%. I'm having my 2.5" lift Pintops installed now and 38" Ridge graps in 13.5" 20s to fit over the huge brakes. I got the Carli sway bar and end links and basically everything a 2.5" lift needs to run 38" graps. That should be a major breakthrough in comfort for a cab and chassis - even more so than upgrade for a pickup F450, which already came with pretty comfortable, low pressure tires. I'm going from 85 pounds min on the commercial tire, to 65 max on the Ridge grap LT tire. And going from duallies in the rear to super single rims from Hutchinson that are reversible front to rear, so you get maximum wear out of the tires, because they can be rotated effectively.
Ford needs to see this video and do something about the inadequate suspension setup for even basic ranch work. I don't see how the stock F350 could handle driving around on my Montana property, what the hell ? Seems surprising incapable.
If you think this is bad you should see a new GM truck in the dirt!
Lucky that 2020 didnt catch on fire.
Thankfully diesel doesn’t ignite as easily as gas so it wasn’t much of a worry. Everyone went home reeking of diesel though 😂
R.I.P. CP4 after that fuel line came off
Take my money
How does Carli compare to BDS ?
what size rims were on the white truck.they looked likr 20s other one looked like seventeens.
How would the Carli be for supporting a truck camper, around 2200lbs loaded?
In that case you’ll either want to use the factory leaf pack on a F-350 or do a custom leaf pack from Deaver designed for the weight. The latter option is definitely the preferred route!
Can u help slowspeeds out with suspension for his truck ???
What is the interior noise like in the Carly F250? Has the suspension insulated the body from the added noise of the 37’s?
37s themselves don’t make any more noise than a smaller tire. Tread pattern is the only thing that changes noise level, so just pick a quiet tread design and you’re set!
Hi CJC, Do you guys recommend or work with any shops in the Tampa, Orlando FL area ??? Looking to buy some of your kits for my Ram 2500 5th gen and I’m looking for a quality shop to do the install.
We have a few shops we work with in that area: Extreme Performance (Lower Central), American Muscle Performance Dan Grimm (Southern), Ostar Motorsports (Central). Hope that helps!