How Disney CHANGED Pirates of the Caribbean
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- From Jack Sparrow to Redd. From Davy Jones to the cutest little octopus you have ever seen in your entire life. Join me today as we discuss the changes Disney has made to Pirates of the Caribbean over the years, and whether or not they added to the ride.
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my most favorite part of the CA pirate of the Caribbean is getting whiplashed by other oncoming boats to push you up the chain lift.....
That's a mood
Ahhh the small things. I miss it so much
the most times i’ve gotten hit is 11, it’s a fun game to keep track of it while you’re waiting.
@@manillargo i will definitely be doing that next time.
when you lowkey actually miss that.
as long as they don’t DARE TOUCH “carlos don’t be chicken”. the most iconic line.
lmao
lmao
CHEEkin!
For years I thought it was : "Carlos, don't be cheeky!"
Larry Westlake me too!
I miss the smell of that ride. I could weep how I just wanna go to Disneyland with my parents again. Just one more time. Feels impossible the way the world is now.
I immediately could smell the ride when I read this. Disney is something I really miss right now.
#missingdisney
SO glad you mentioned the smell! I have not been to Disneyland in years - but my first visit was not long after the Pirates ride opened when I was a little kid. I didn't know the smell had changed! Each time I went, the scent in the air (of the water, I presumed) filled me with the nostalgia of my first visit - and still does as I think of it now. Hard to describe a smell - kind of a high-octane ozone to it... Does it smell like chlorine now? What happened?
I doubt I will ever go again - the last time I even considered it, the price was outrageous!! I don't know how families do it. That, and it feels kind of creepy to be a 63-year-old guy by himself going on rides with kids!
Natasha N. I can totally relate. I grew up near Disneyland and never got tired of going, but moved away in the 90s and have only been back once in the last 25 years and I miss it big time! The first time I ever watched a full “ride through“ video of Pirates of the Caribbean, I swear I could smell that wonderful smell in my mind the entire time. It was intense. I’ve watched ride through since then and the sense-memory just has not been as strong.
Damn this pandemic!
So this was why you were asking about the parrot on Twitter. And for those that miss the redhead, she’s still over in Tokyo
wait she is? so they didnt like redd lol
Oh hey Mike, I loved your Euro Disney opening speech
Michael Eisner they kept the auction? I always enjoyed that part.
@@mccraezee yes Tokyo still has the bride auction and the pirates chasing women.
for now
"Informing us that dead men do indeed tell no tales"
...
Disembodied voice: *Dead men tell no tales...*
D. Jones: "Ah, but they DO tell tales."
So says I, Davy Jones!
Literally symbolic of all of the changes. Saying the exact opposite thing as the rest of the ride
In the 80s and 90s that was just a black scene after you dropped off the little waterfall supposed to be the world's end.
Your pronunciation of “curse-ed treasure” and “don’t be cheeeken” sent me
Sent you where?
@@JosephDavies TA DAVEEEEY JONS LUCKER!!!!!!!!!
@@CommanderOfTheSun *locker *jones
@@Lexilove2016 You missed the joke.
I like the additions, but I think Red's lines could be a bit better. They tend to fall short. On the other hand, long live Hank the Octopus, best octopus in the world, so cute so rich!
It sounds as though she's speaking through a bullhorn while everyone else is just being rowdy. As if there was no attempt to mix her in with the volume of the other characters at all.
I agree with both of those statements
I wish the Hanging half-skeleton pirate could be higher up in the room. It would make the mirror trick look a lot more convincing, it really doesn't look at all like the kind of trick Yale Gracey would've come up with
I actually have a shirt that says “we wants the red head” that my friend talked me into buying because I have red hair. I love it 😂
Respect.
Better keep that shirt safe as proof that line once existed in the ride 😂
The Blank Project. Yeah, I’m sure all the videos of the ride before the change will just up and disappear, right? The only proof will be a random shirt.
@@AreYouSufferingX You never know with RUclips.
I have one that was made after the change that says " We STILL wants the redhead"
"Red" is also a real character now. They have an actress who looks and dresses like the animatronic and walks about New Orleans Square and interacts with guests.
Got my picture with her VDAY weekend, I got a soft spot for redheads
Gosh I love her
she’s so sweet. i got a picture with her and she said she “loved my pantaloons”
I haven't been to Disneyland since 2015 and I literally want to go back just to meet Redd, ride Guardians Mission Breakout, and to see Fantasmic 2.0. (I've done Galaxy's Edge at WDW, so I don't need to see that.)
REALLY! Dude thats awesome
the octopus and the crab have always been the best characters
Oh GAWD I love that crab! And the seagull, too.
The Seagull. They took him down off the skeletons hat for some repairs and I was so sad he might be gone for good. When I saw him back I actually squealed.
In a twisted way, I think they could have kept the Bride Auction AND had Captain Redd put in if they just done that; The Bride Auction, HOSTED by Captain Redd. After all Anne Bonney and Mary Reed are the famous female pirates which some accounts say were likely in a lesbian relationship (as both hid the fact they were women while working on the same ship and fell for each other before both coming out and leaving to captain their own ship)
I'd pay good money for that version, honestly
stormhawkdude Anne Bonney and Mary Reed were the first cottagecore couple but on the sea
I couldn`t agree more when the ride opened they wanted it to show what it was like to live in the 18th century with a bunch of pirates running around. People say that when the ride opened they were not looking for historical accuracy but take it as you may. With all this #METOO crap (when Tara Reid and bill Clinton's accusers are not accounted for) and the SJW`s trying to change things all the time when something that was not threatening suddenly is, I like to imagine that they are those butt faced characters from south park. This is the 18th century people, not the 21st, the ride would be very boring with Somalian pirates because it only got in the news.......once. The thing is I believe all women should have all the rights to life as possible (excluding equal pay because of biology ladies ask your husband to have a competition to see how many times you can lift 30-pound boxes in a minute I'm not calling you weak but men are built bigger also men dont get pregnant and pee blood and that's just how the cookie crumbles.......alright enough of this tangent back to this comment that for some reason went so many places for some reason) You see the in the 18th century and back women did not have it as good as women today, the be quiet unless spoken thing and public embarrassment for in modern perspective taking the last piece of pizza when their husband goes to the bathroom when he called dibs is very wrong. But that is how men saw women baby-making, housekeeping, naggers though all parts are still here as they should be................but they are not dictated by these today if you could go back and say "my wife is in the military" or "she is working a full time job at *insert large company here*" or "my wife started a regional girls baseball team to help fight cancer" the person would call you crazy and say "someone must have put something in your rum" but his wife would smile knowning that her future decendants would have it far better off as she would ever have it so personally as stormhawkdude said it was a different and twisted time from modern eyes, but don't worry I bet most men treated with their wives with respect though some proved that the wifebeater should have been invented way before the 19th century. if any SJW`s want to tell me otherwise, to let you know I actually do the research and if I get something wrong then I go back to the commenter and say "whoops look I messed up, let me fix my mistake" and even at times I would leave links. trust me I managed to have a peaceful conversation with a neo-soviet.............somehow (not lying). So if you want to have a talk give each other new perspectives on life im all ears. Whether democrat or republican (which I am) we all have to take time to listen to each other. Because of how amusing it is watching a dog chase an invisible ball it only benefits one side. Kicking and screaming should be done in desperation not conversation. God bless everyone and have a wonderful day.
except its still very problematic....the whole selling humans and all
Patrick aka Canrugger at this point close down the whole park. Jungle cruise, Pinocchio, Splash mountain, are all problematic. Even Snow White.
"Shift yer cargo, dearie, show 'em your larboard side..." 😢
one thing i’m really enjoying about quarantine is that we get more frequent uploads :,)
My personal favorite part of the ride, which I hope never changes, is the peaceful swamp at the start. Where you slowly trod along in the dark waters & see the flickering lightening bugs & hear the soft banjo being plucked as you pass the old man in the rocking chair & see the Blue Bayou restaurant. The sounds of a talking pirate skull and rushing water steadily growing louder.
I like all the changes but the Jack sparrow ones. My reason is that his animatronics dont look like the others. He stands out as too real compared to the more comical others.
I agree. He is too polish and realistic compared to the amazing old school character designs.
@Emmanuel Goldstein why are you have to bring in internet trolling into it? or are you pro sex trafficking?
@Gnome Sane deflection is not a valid form of arguement.
while i like em i get where your coming from, the same goes for redd tho she looks even more realistic than Jack imo
It would be interesting to consider a Marc Davis-style interpretation of Depp-as-Sparrow.
I like the implications that “the red head” became a pirate herself later on and now she’s gotten rid of the bride auction system, I like Red’s story
They wanted the redhead, they got her. Just not in the way they expected.
And now, Karen Gillan will be the redhead in the reboot.
Especially because historically there were very powerful female pirates. Most historians will site Ching Shih as the most powerful pirate ever, and she was a female. All these people whining about historical accuracy clearly never read their pirate history, because they would know that female pirates were a powerful group that definitely needed represented in this ride for it to be more hIsToRiCaLy AcUrAtE!!
I never thought of it this way and I LOVE IT. This is canon.
Know what else is historically accurate? Enslaving and selling women. So, an argument for representation and historical accuracy doesn't work, because it already was before they changed it.
I personally like the Redd change to the auction scene however the two issues I have with it are:
1: I wish the auctioneer’s recording and dialogue could have been preserved through writing and audio engineering/wizards
2: the lighting. While the LEDs have been better calibrated in DL since Redd appeared I still like the older design better. It was just a nice simple warm orange that let you focus on the characters and the mood now there are so many different light sections and it feels to cluttered. I personally think the main culprit is have the really bright “moonlight” in the scene. Whiskies it works for other scenes I find it distracting for the auction.
Also shout out the blinged out goat, love that kid.
When it comes to the Pirates of the Caribbean ride, people are never satisfied. Disney changes the ride, people get angry. Disney doesn’t change the ride, people get still get angry.
Just dont change things, its why society is so fucked too
That is true but they should at least try to make it work, maybe some kind of compromise.
The difference is, people who want the ride changed are complete and utter idiots. ;)
I was satisfied when Disney didn't change the ride as it shows how pirates really act
@@parkerbrewer1257 I agree with that update the ride not censor it
Personally, I've always liked Redd: She comes off like the ride's adaption of Elizabeth from the films, plus I've always liked to think she's really the originally read-head gone rogue and selling off the town to buy a ship or something.
The only Depp figure I liked was the final one: the other two stand out too much, and look like temp figures accidentally left up after the film premiered.
it also fits in with the mythologized pirates that the whole ride is about, since there really WERE a few lady pirates historically (the go-to examples being Anne Bonny and Mary Read, but they weren't the only one)
that reminds me, there's one change/update to the ride (the queue, really) that wasn't mentioned in the video: the murals as you enter the building proper--i think they've added a few over the course of the ride's history but the most obvious were, of course, the addition of Jack Sparrow and Barbossa along with the larger movie updates
I kinda thought she was supposed to be the Penelope Cruz pirate from one of the Pirates of the Caribbean sequels - the Fountain of Youth one?
I don't mind the female pirate the only thing that irritates me about it who they got to do the voice for her it sounds so out of place and you can tell it's a fake accent
@@dorisfromage2349 I hate Angelica
@@Emperor_Oshron yeah a "few" compared to the hundred of thousands of actual pirates, what a coincidence this one showed up
I had a dream about Disneyland last night, can’t wait to go back whenever they reopen and all this craziness is under control 😒
justnena i love when i dream i’m at disney🥺
Ah yes, dreaming of the wonderful ways 35 year old consumer man children ignore the low wages Disney employees receive
@@magmaman6384 So the low wages are the fault of "35 year old man children" ignoring the plight of Disney employees while they go about the park? You'd be best to rip the multibillion dollar that is Disney Corp a new one for facilitating the plight of Disney workers. Welcome to capitalism. You're criticism doesn't even make sense. That and you going around shitposting under someone's comment about their fondness of the Disney experience is so out of sorts. I'm not fond of Disney in many ways and i don't go around dirtying up comment sections like that. Bugger off
@@magmaman6384 yah because the 1st thing patrons usually are concerned about when going to Disneyland is the wages of the employees.. Your idiotic logic could apply to every other service industry but what you lack is common sense in the understanding that these people willing sign on to work for these companies. Nobody is holding a gun to them, this is the beauty of free market capitalism so go spew your socialist pity party shit somewhere else.
I remember the ride with and without Captain Redd. I had no strong feelings towards the auction, nor did I think it necessarily needed a change, but I will say that now that Redd’s there, I finally have a character to really root for in the ride. True, there was always Jack to root for in the past version, but I really like Redd’s spunky attitude. Just. Hell yeah. You go, pirate lady who has the same voice as Azula.
9:46 damn it closed in 2017 and reopened in 2008, must be that Disney magic
"We wants the redhead! We wants the redhead!" And so do I--it's hilarious the way it was. Boy Scouts of the Caribbean indeed!
What about the missing mermaid skeleton? When and why did that happen?
Yeah he forgot about the music and the failed water effect.
i always loved the mermaid skeleton i was sad the first time i rode it after the refurb when i saw that it was missing
When Disneyland reopens rumor has it all of the pirates on the ride will be wearing face masks and pillaging toilet paper.
Lmao. Hopefully not Disney world cause that’s where my family goes
Masks on animatronics may not work
That would be amazing. Imagine a roll of TP instead of the key in the doggies mouth.
The fact that these people are taking this seriously hurts.
people really be out here believing this huh
This is an intriguing one. Mostly cos even though the characters behaviour has been censored, the ride was always so anachronistic anyway I've never been sure if that is such a bad thing. I'd rather a ride that linked to real pirates like ye man Lafitte rather than incremental changes to suit sensibility. Give them something real to fight for after being dumped from their jobs. Get rid of the bad West Country accents - I'm British - make them more nuanced. OSDP's episode on Pirates would have made a great ride.
Seriously, for one, it's Disney so of course it'll be watered down and also it was never meant to be a serious historical look at pirates of the past. The fact that people were upset that a fun family ride at a Disney park removed a scene where they sold women seems a bit silly. I can think of a million better things to get angry at Disney for
@@SuperNuclearUnicorn well said!
Walt himself was worried that the ride might idolize the pirates, make the pirate life seem fun and exciting, which is why the original ride emphasized the nasty end that pirates would receive for their piratical doings.
A lot of that has been lost with all the PC changes.
@@Jcolinsol I understand what you are saying, but there is a little more nuance. I wouldn't say that the PC changes idealizes pirates, the movie did that. After the movie came out, it would be rather weird to keep the pirates as evil as they were before. But additionally, I think that Walt might have had it wrong here, I remember going on that ride as a little girl and watching the bride auction really made me sad, not scared of the evil pirates, just sad and disgusted, and that wasn't something I wanted I wanted to feel in disney world. Finally, while it doesn't justify everthing they did, many pirates were slaves who overthrew their captors and made a life for themselves by taking vengence on the countries that treated them horrifically. Others were poor sailors who were treated terribly by wealthy commanding officers, and still more were liberated women. Some were in it solely for the money, others targetted specific practices as a form of protest. Anyway, my point is that pirates, like all groups of people, were extremely complicated. No, they should not be idolized, but they shouldn't be completely demonized either.
(sorry for the long response)
I’m sorry can I bother to ask what is OSDP and where can I watch this “episode” you speak of ?
Fantastic episode! The part I miss the most is the dueling crabs in the first beach scene. Now with only one gesticulating crablette, 'tis not the same. Just a lonely little crab clacking at the wind... And yes, by all means, the star of the show is Hank the Wealthy Octopus!
What I always loved about this ride and it's attention to detail resulting in you always finding something new each time you ride it.
When I first took my 3 year old daughter to ride it, she noticed the pirate hanging over the bridge we passed through and shouted out : "eeew look at his dirty feet!".
Quite a few people on our boat laughed and I thought "wow,I have rode this ride numerous times and I never have noticed how dirty that pirate's feet were!".
I like Redd. I view her as the same character as it was always implied in the original ride that Scarlett became a pirate after being auctioned in the painting you see in the skeleton caves. You should have mentioned how the pirates went from chasing women, to food, and then back again. The food chasing was too dumb. Also OCTOPUS MERCH WHEN? HELLO DISNEY???
I’ve been going on this ride since I was a baby in the late 60s, and always assumed, even as a child, that the iconic red headed pirate woman painting was Red after she was auctioned as well.
I think my biggest issue is the fact that the last jack sparrow looks dead and he’s so fluid but all the other old people move so old in jerky!
Boy Scouts of the Caribbean
Soy Boys of the Carribean 😂😂
Even more fitting because of what has become of the actual Boy Scouts. X Atencio is the best.
Removing all the “grotesque” stuff from the ride make it seem like pirates are fun wholehearted adventurers, in reality they’re not but it’s a family ride so I get why they changed it.
Family rides can be for adults to0. Thats what was so great about it. To kids they don't know what's going on it's just cool pirate stuff the raunchy jokes go over their head. The Adults get a little humor to entertain them that's what makes it a family ride and not just a kid's ride.
I love all the new additions to the attraction but Redd is obviously my favorite! I love seeing a lady pirate! I also just love how the tied in the movies. It all just fits very well. I understand it's not historically accurate but neither is Pocahontas like someone else in the comments said. It's for fun entertainment not a boring museum.
I went on the Disneyland Pirates of the Caribbean when I was about 6 (before the auction change). I don’t remember it at all, and I wish I did just for the experience. I went on the Disney World version last year and even with the changes I still think it’s an iconic ride. Redd is badass!
Actually, there were several famous female pirates but only a few. They were very rare.
@Mr. Vic Women were allowed, there are a few really famous ones. I don't think life at sea would be what most women would want for themselves. The Caribbean pirates worked for the British government, they weren't rugged individualists, they were out to destroy the Spanish trade monopoly, largely by theft and destruction of Spanish assets. Making multicultural pirates was probably the dumbest part of the changes.
My favourite addition is one to Paris's Pirates, just after the final drop their use to be a skeletal pirate in a shipwreck, now it is a animatronic of Captain Barbossa that becomes his undead zombie form from the first film when the lightning crashes. I think its a cool addition.
I miss the old auction scene because one of my favorite things as a kid was to listen to the auctioneer shout “It be GOLD I’m after”. Miss that line
Red can walk the plank and so can Jack Sparrow. I wish they'd put it back to the way it was before someone decided it needed to be PC.
As long as they keep my beloved Barbossa
@@queenmedesa That man is a badass and totally fits into the ride. I didn’t even notice he was put in until I watched this video. That’s how well he fits in.
@@BrandonBowditch I'd like it if they called the actor back in to record some new lines that had nothing to do with Jack Sparrow, and he can just fill the role of the original Pirate Captain as an Easter Egg. If there's ONE movie related change that I could not imagine going without, it's the fanfare during the ship battle. The original battle feels a little weightless in comparison
We wants the Red Head! We wants the Red Head!
And you will get the Redhead back the way she was envisioned in the future. Pirates will be made great again.
Show em your larboard side
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@Gnome Sane what?
We wants the red head!
I just want Barbosa and the water fall back that was always my favorite scene
When I was a kid I remember Pirates of the Caribbean was a scary ride. That was the fun of it, it was kind of like the haunted mansion. Now the pirates aren't scary at all, they're more slapstick and unthreatening. Oh well.
Pirates of the Caribbean: "Dead men tell no tales"
Also Pirates of the Caribbean now: "Dead men tell no tales.. but they do says I"
So my friend Mr Talking Skull was lying to me this entire time. The man in the video projector told me.
You forgot one
When Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides was released they replaced Davy Jones with Ian Mcshane’s Blackbeard
Yessirrrrr!!!! Can’t wait to wait this video! You know, your videos are keeping me alive during quarantine... when the parks open back up I’ll be a Disney know it all 😂
In my head canon, Pirates is really an adaptation of "The Secret of Monkey Island" and Pirate Red is Elaine Marley.
( also the talking skull before the first drop is Murray the Demonic Skull )
The creator of Monkey Island, Ron Gilbert said a few times that he was heavily inspired by the ride. Especially with the ending of LeChuck's Revenge. :)
@@JudahMantell He also said ""Pirates of the Caribbean is a rip-off of Monkey Island that was a rip-off of the Pirates of the Caribbean ride..." Ron Gilbert
“Whenever Poochie's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking "Where's Poochie"?”
I love having red there, I just wish her audio matched the original audio quality. The high quality of the audio on red stands out a lot to me.
So much attention to detail in this, as usual! Thanks for the great video!
Imagineering Fun Secret Fact - After the the 2006 release of the The Haunted Mansion, not only did they re-use props from the movie, imagineering tried at one point to re-furbish the entire grand staircase from the movie set to fit into Disneyland’s Haunted Mansion. This would have been located directly behind the loading platform in the main hall. similar to Its cousin in paris. No animatronic or story emphasis was to be integrated, this was purely done to tie in the film to the location. In grand Disney fashion budget/time constraints, eliminated those ideas. Thus most of the props were shunted to WDW as a stand alone attraction. I remember this from a mixer I attended with friends, a couple of imagineers were there and got very loose lipped after a few drinks.
When I was little I thought the ride was based off the movie instead of the other way around 😂
Thank you for using this rendition of "Pirate's Life for Me" in the background. I haven't heard it in ages and it reminds me of my dad who loved it so.
I'm beginning to think that your channel is a little biased towards Pirates of the Caribbean, the Haunted Mansion, and this "Peoplemover" that I only see remnants of when I go to Disneyland. I'm still waiting on a video for It's a small world. LOL great stuff as usual.
Jean Lafitte would never censor his own ride
My favorite part of pirates is the smell of the water. You can change whatever you want Disney, but if you change the smell of my pirate water, your gonna need to change your face
All the footage in the video got me actually smelling the ride. Thank you @OffhandDisney for that!
I Love These WAY Too Much!
I am not a fan of most of the changes. They changed the story to resolve around Jack Sparrow instead of the crew searching for the cursed treasure. He sticks out like a sore thumb because unlike the caricature designs of the other pirates, he looks very realistic. The PC stuff is also unfortunate and changes the tone. My least favorite alteration is the PC auction scene because the dialogue is so cringey and it doesn't flow that well with the rest of the attraction imo. My favorite alteration is the addition of the skeleton turning into the pirate because it emphasizes how you're going back in time. I also like how they restored the original ghostly dialogue to the cave.
🙌🏽👏🏽 agreed!
Yeah, even if they really needed to ditch the auction, just get rid of it all together
Agreed on all points.
Why pirates will have to pay for the loot ? That's nonsense
My Dad has a shirt that says "We still wants the Red Head!"
gross
Awesome!
I've been wanting to have these questions answered for so long thanks
Glad you're making more vids lately. Missed your content. Keep 'em coming. More would be nice.
I can’t say I’m fond of most of the changes, as a significant amount of them go in the face of the original vision. Pirates are supposed to be villains, not romanticized sea bound entrepreneurs. They did terrible things in pursuit of all manners of pleasure, or profit. Sanitizing history doesn’t undo the past, and it removes some of the punch of the experience; it’s like taking the spookiness out of the Haunted Masion, and instead saying we should feel sorry for all these poor souls.
The live action inspired segments are just so anachronistic to the rest of the animatronics. To me, it’s like how in video games you can buy a DLC to look like the hero/heroines of a previous game; but then you’re just wearing an outfit that doesn’t match the rest of the events. I don’t want them to remove any more classic elements, but I would welcome a new Pirates inspired ride; honestly, reskinning Maelstrom as Pirates of the Caribbean instead of Frozen likely would have been a better idea. Perhaps they could eventually do another ride like Temple of the Forbidden Eye but Pirates themed; after all those movies are very action oriented.
Having a whole boat ride dedicated to pirates is kinda romantisizing in the first place don't you agree...honestly if you want something textbook accurate a disney ride isn't it. Reminder that this is a kid's ride and fun > accuracy.
well said
@@clarkdunlevy5171 dont be, they party a lot
@@feralcatgirl2169 i like to think of myself as a purist, but at the end of the day Disney is counting dollars, and rebranding rides is par for the course. I don't mind Pirates as much as Mansion, trying to tell the story of the bride is just confusing, and drags down the pacing of the ride.
If you don't want "sanitized history" you should avoid the Disney theme parks at all costs. Elsewise we must demand gay pirates, female pirates and significantly more violence...
No mention of John Lafitte. No mention of the bridge pirate tangling his foot towards the guests with a red ribbon tied to his toe?
Least favorite is the removal of the two pirates at the end trying to drag the treasure up the hill. I loved that part. Plus there used to be glowing green eyes in the dark spaces. I don’t remember seeing them on my trip last year.
I think it’s good they keep updating the ride. Walt wanted everything in the park to constantly change. It also makes the ride more interesting each time you ride it with something new to see (although it is my favorite ride with it without changes)
I personally really love the Jack Sparrow additions. Brings the movies full circle. Didn't know about the Haunted Mansion chairs. 😂
How does it bring them full circle?
"...we pillage and plunder and even hijack...but suddenly we're really nice to women...drink up me hearties yo-ho!..."
there were women pirates tho....
@@salt6500 they were extremely uncommon though
We're queerer than queer, we like boys best, my dear, but the redhead is cheap so yo-ho!
@@salt6500 You could count the number on one hand, and they all had to disguise themselves as men when at sea. Pirates aren't good people. I like Atencio's comment on it.
@@salt6500 ...and?
So glad offhand uploads so much
The part about the chair from the movie and the ride the haunted mansion and it being in the pirates of the caribbean, LITERALLY PROVES YOUR POINT ABOUT THE HAUNTED MANSION AND THE POTC BEING CONNECTED DUDEEEEEEE !!!!! :O
Imagineers are right to "freshen" classics like Pirates and Small World. The changes keep things interesting for longtime guests like me who have visited the parks since the 1970s. It's fun to see the new stuff, all of which is properly themed. Walt said the parks would evolve and they should.
@@partyharry7585 historically pirates aren't what people think they are anyway, they were Britain's successful attempt at ending Spain's trade monopoly. My only problem is trying to make pirates multicultural instead of white, they were very much white.
No they have no right to "freshen" classics like that. Keeping the parks the same is what keeps real fans coming back. Take the characters out of Small World and restore Pirates to its original glory and nobody will cry. Disneyland can survive on its name alone because when they see "Disney" they will come. "There's a sucker born every minute." - P.T. Barnum.
stanfordite “Disneyland will never be completed”- Walt Disney. I think even walt knew that you have to keep moving forward or else we’ll never have gotten a ride like pirates in the first place.
@@MyNameIsJoJo420 Walt is dead and the idea that Disneyland will never be complete died with him. Sorry to break it you but Disneyland can be completed and was completed in 1995 with the opening of Indiana Jones. That quote has been abused so much that it's time to toss it to the dustbin of history. That quote is not one of the Ten Commandments or some holy law that cannot be broken and people need to stop treating it as such.
@@stanfordite real fans dont complain about this
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Growing up in the 90s, I loved that version, I hated when the added the Davy Jones waterfall, loved noticing the turn table changes. What it is today seems like it what it originally was, but with the necessary movie tie ins. I like the Hans Zimmer score kicking on when we enter between the ship and the fort.
I was supposed to get back from my Disney senior trip yesterday but this vid helped make my day a bit better
I actually don't mind the changes. The ride is still fun. However, I grew up with the original Pirates of the Caribbean. The original pirates were more...like pirates.
Honestly, the censorship is like burning a museum. It destroys what once was and nobody will see the old artifacts again. This is one of the few times that I side with Disneyland purists
Eh.. I get your point, but I disagree - the ride was never historically accurate, so keeping the "original" in my mind doesn't really matter. If they were making changes that were trying to rewrite history I would agree they shouldn't, but the ride has always been faaaaar from historically accurate so to me it's just changes to a fictional space and it seems better to not be condoning violence against/purchasing of women.
Not necessarily. Thanks to the Disney Archives all those artifacts are safe and secure. I can guarantee you that Pirates will be restored to its original glory in the near future. And if anyone complains about the auction being restored or the removal of Jack Sparrow, that's their problem.
@Emmanuel Goldstein You are absolutely correct the Disney never should've bent to SJWs. They should've told them to shut up and deal with it. And if they boycott, no one will miss them.
@@azuradawn5683 I don’t think that’s the point the commenter made, but if you want to go that route, fine. The attempt with the original ride was to give a flavor of what pirates were like while also tying a fun story safe enough for families to see together. The parts of the original ride that depict the ugly parts of piracy were historically accurate, but were made vague enough for the parents to understand while also not having to cover their children’s eyes. The story is obviously a fantasy, but it’s historical depictions are accurate.
Tokyo still has the OG auction scene
i actually thought the wench auction was satirical and i was sad when i found out they removed it
You forgot the addition of the World Of Motion animatronics in the Disneyland ride in the late 90’s after WOM closed. Most notably two animatronics were repurposed to look like they were hauling a treasure chest up the end lift hill and several animals from it were placed around the ride (such as the pig near the gluttonous pirate). They were all removed around 2004-2006 however.
My favorite too! It made the ride much more dynamic. The treasure chest had the wonderful painting of Peter Ustinov in Blackbeard's Ghost, which I can't seem to find a photo of anywhere.
To me, Disneyland is ever evolving. I know most people have sentemal nostalgia for the rides they remember and grew up with. For me though I have liked almost all the upgrades and changes to all the rides.
Bias aside the new additions are just awful, clunky and out of place imo. Jack looks too realistic and ruined the story line, and redds audio isn't mixed well. The lines they changed are bad too. I wouldn't mind the changes but its a poor effort.
Yes just evolve and censor. I love it so much. Just replace anything that makes you frown with a kitten.
I think people are more upset at the reasoning for the changes. For instance, a consistent favorite ride among Disney fans is the Haunted Mansion ride. Haunted Mansion has always changed in small ways, but these changes were always for the ride’s betterment or for the actual fans of the ride. So as a result, nobody cared about the changes they made. The changes to Pirates always happened for these two reasons:
1) Appealing to a minority of uptight people who were never fans.
2) Capitalizing off a popular franchise.
To me, the second reason dates the ride incredibly, and the first reason is the dumbest reason to make changes to anything. I remember a Simpsons episode back in the day where Lisa said, “Everyone was fine with the (Pirates) ride, but it got massive complaints from two people.” That’s why people got mad. The crying of a few people matters more to Disney than the actual fans of the ride who love it.
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I’m fine with all of the changes except for the change of the bride auction and when they changed Davey Jones face in the waterfall to Blackbeard. I also liked the woman in the barrel but I didn’t mind seeing the change to Jack when I was a kid
This has become my one of my favorite re/watch videos. :)
They exchanged historical accuracy for more positive representation and cultural, gender, ect. Which depending on which you value more can be good or bad. I think it was a good decision considering this ride is frequented by children too who will gain more from seeing equality than seeing women being sold and chased ect.
How do they gain more from putting today's societal norms in the past? Why not be honest?
This isn't a political channel so I'm not trying to start a debate but it does create a conflict. For example, kids see pirates as heroes and dress up like them for Halloween or whatever and then someone who knows the reality sees them in that costume and gets offended because it's seen as promoting those actions. If we're honest from the start and chill with censorship, cancelling, etc these problems stop. Just chill. Let people be people and don't lie I think.
Well there are famously female pirates. Several well known ones from Anne Bonny to Grace O'Malley to Ching Shih. Truthfully the ride lacking much in race diversity of the pirates is particularly pricking because that is a well known part of it's history. I don't have the nostalgia for the ride that many would as I'm UK based but looking at it's many incarnations it looks more like a ride made to fit what a 1960's audience thought pirates were. Not what they actually were. It could do with fixing that or going for better fantasy.
Mr. Vic It’s not called The Pirates of Britain. There were poc all over the Caribbean islands, chances are some were pirates no?
But what will they gain by believing a sanitized version of history? Should we not teach kids about the genocide of natives either?
Most pirateers in the Caribbean were european
I don’t think they should have added characters from the Pirates films, cause how long is that gonna last?
There's so much that I forgot about before they even brought in Jack Sparrow. And when I went to Disney World for my honeymoon 2 years ago, it felt like a different ride.
Hey dude, really like your videos, keep up the good work! ⭐️
While I really like the new auction scene, my family and I used to have a tradition where we would yell “We want the red head!” with the animatronics, and it makes me kind of sad that we can’t do that anymore.
Now you can yell "we want the redhead!" to express your desire for the original scene?
The last two times I've been on PIrates (WDW & DL) with the updated scene there's people people yelling it at the scene anyway. It still "works"
I mean, you still could. I'd be amused if I heard that
Thank you for not editorializing too much with this video! But I will say, I wish the auction scene stayed the same as the bland items for sale make the scene uninteresting, but Redd's design is really cool and I like her a lot.
I've always loved want you to go down the first waterfall to get into the action, when you look up you could actually see clouds moving in the sky! Even with so much more going on, that part with the clouds really intrigued me
! I've also always wondered how deep is that water we are riding in as well.
Very interesting topic to me! Thank you very much for this video!
I warmed up to Red after a while to get used to the changes to the auction scene. Looking at it now, she's kind of awesome.
I like her voice lines, but I still kind of pass through the scene with a bit of anger that they changed it, cause they’re pirates it felt like such a pirate thing for them to auction off women, but I understand why the change had to be mad it’s a family park and all that
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I haven’t been on the ride since the new Red was installed. She looks good and all, but TOO GOOD. She looks and moves like a real person compared to the vintage animatronics.
I have the plush of the Barker Parrot from 2006 and he still has the tags intact
my question is: who is going to disney looking for historical accuracy?? this is the same company that made a pocahontas movie with a severely aged up pocahontas and a nonexistent romance with a man who was a grown adult when she was 9 when they met. if it were a museum or something claiming to be an accurate retelling, i'd understand the "STOP SANITIZING HISTORY" argument, but it's a fictitious disney ride. (also, there were female pirates lol. not as many as male pirates, sure, but they did exist.)
Emmanuel Goldstein because they switched out a few animatronics?
@Emmanuel Goldstein Women are a tiny minority now?
thank you
@Emmanuel Goldstein except the minority is the one complaining that it was changes
emmatalkstoherself the ride original was showing pirates and how awful they were because we have story’s about pirates and changing the auctioning scene and the scene where the Pirates chase the woman are just displaying that, the ride is still fun but if you watch the original opening day ride footage they changed it a little to much so now pirates don’t seem as terrible of people
It's been 2 years and this auction scene still makes me mad. The original version with the pirates shouting "we wants the redhead" and the auctioneer saying "shift yer cargo deary, show em yer larbard side" were my absolute favorite. I haven't had the opportunity to go to either park since the change, but I know I'm going to be disappointed to see it in person.
Great video! Last time I rode this ride was in 2004 at Disney World, i was a young kid at the time. The movie came out 1 year prior and I recall my mom telling me about how the movie was based on this classic ride and that there would be no characters from the movie on it. I enjoyed the crap out of it! I need to get back to Disney world now that I’m a full grown adult and full of Disney park knowledge thanks to videos like these! .
At WDW there is an up ramp at the ride exit where the Barker Parrot used to be, and it did in fact, cause backups when guests would stop to look at it. It also drove me quite mad one night when I got stuck in rotation for several hours until closing (1 a.m.at that time). One of the worst nights in my 11 year career there, never been the same since!
You know its gonna be good when you hear that background music
Dead man, tell no tales!!!
My least favorite change was the waterfall projection.. just didn't work for me. I've always adored the dog with the keys in its mouth near the jail.♡
The best part about the latest change was in the transition into the naval battle sequence, where they brought back the audio loop of the two pirates warning riders about the cursed treasure from the original ride.